Previous >>4322305Thread for yuri discussion of:>Genshin Impact>Honkai Impact 3rd>Honkai Star Rail>Guns GirlZ>Zenless Zone Zeroand other applicable miHoYo/Hoyoverse games
>>4333761so those characters are not related here?
>>4333783Zoom in.Lesbian playing ZZZ gets interrupted
>>4333786>Zoom in.>zooms inMale in image!
>>4333775These two are so cute
HSR hasn't had a good pairing since Seele and Bronya in Belobog. There, I said it.Let's see if Amphoreus can turn things around.
>>4333961Controversial opinion, but I don't particularly think that HSR bronseele is particularly well done once you remove all the implied understanding from their HI3 counterpart.It's so fucking shallow compared to their other versions
Zhu Yuan's harem.
>>4333970Everything in hsr is shallow, even the biggest ship, Firefly, is extremely shallow.
>>4333972Firefly is 3 different characters that aren't overlapping properly. The trauma hardened warborn loner soldier, the enigmatic hired killer with a theatrical flair from your team rocket tier rival gang, and the friendly sociable girl who gets easily attached to strangers. It's impossible to see glimmers of her other sides apart from the few times the writers remember to beat you over the head with it. Like it should have been reasonable to suspect she and Sam were the same person if she were more coherent. And Sam should waste less time being an over-the-top chuuni if she's a cog custom built for a war machine. But you could explore these things, show how she's been affected and grown and unraveled new sides of herself over the course of the story with her growing connection to Stelle. Except she's just one of an endless carousel of new gacha products that can't afford her that much spotlight, so let's have a patch dedicated to Aventurine instead. Firefly has the makings of a strong dynamic character, fanfic can do wonders for her, and Penacony desperately wanted to pivot around her, but too many of her scenes were restricted to only 1/3rd of Firefly's personality in the misguided desire to preserve a question hardly anyone cared to ask in a story arc that was bloated after someone dumped the whole writers' room brainstorm box on the table. Jarilo VI remains HSR's high point not because it was deep, but because it was simple. Penacony should have remained strictly half Firefly and half Sunday - your antihero turned companion and antagonist. And the right one should have gone on to join the crew.
>>4333761>not Hoyo characters>male on the ipad screen....did you really make this thread early just for this?
Miyabi and Belle seems to be friends.
>>4333761i love these dorks
>>4333980No wonder most choose the cute and friendly lesbo route with Firefly. Can't be accused of mischaracterization if the actual writers themselves can't stick the landing!
Y'know, I wish we got to know more about Robin that be stuck with a dude based on the one racial group that everybody (especially in the Balkans) hates.
>>4333961Star Rail's depiction of their relationship was pretty bad imo. I found HSR Seele annoying
>>4334549It was fine. It didnt get all the time it needed like many aspects of the Belobog plotlines but the idea was there. They went through rivalry, understanding, and finally bonding. What other HSR "pairing" has anything even resembling a development of some kind? HSR stories post Belobog all feel incredibly amateurish. Like the writers have a cool idea of a setup and the finale, but are absolutely dogshit at filling in the blanks inbetween.
>>4333980Speaking of the Stellaron Hunters does anyone else hate the fact that Stelle's backstory and the reason why she has a stellaron in her is ignored? I know people hated the Luofu but at least it explored who Stelle is and gave us some insight on her character. Genshin and HSR have this bad habit of spending too much time on the new region/planet and spending too little time building up their MCs. For example in Genshin after Sumeru we only get advances in the main plot in limited events. Fontaine and Natlan feel like filler because they don't advance Lumine's story. Compare them to Sumeru where Lumine not only wants to help Nahida, but also has a reason to help her. Nahida being the only one that can connect with Irminsul means helping her will allow Lumine to gather info on her brother. Natlan is about battling the abyss, which Aether has deep ties with. Why is this not a main part of the story? Why isn't Lumine questioning if Aether has any part of what's happening in Natlan. It just makes Natlan feel like an afterthought. Fontaine and Natlan are long filler arcs we have to get through in order to play the events that give us the real content we've been waiting for.
>>4334565Stelle might have it even worse. She has gotten 0 development since Luofu. All we know of her is that she used to be with Kafka. Since then Stelle has gotten nothing. All the development goes to the new gacha character each patch. It's fine to develop them to get people to roll, but they aren't the MC. They aren't the center character of the story. When fighting Sunday I felt nothing because there was nothing between them. No hatred, no empathy, nothing. This is because they didn't even know each other. Ever since Penacony Stelle has mattered less and less to the story to the point she might as well not be there in them. Even in events she's only there because we play as her. Stelle mattered more in Luka's event than she did in all of Penacony. I don't get why they didn't explore who Stelle was more. Maybe have her and Firefly bond over being non human beings created to serve a purpose. Their story could've been them trying to become something more than beings in Elio's scripts. This could've made their relationship have deeper meaning and contrasted with Sunday's motivation much better. Stelle and Firefly ultimately choosing free will would've made the themes in Penacony mean more. Speaking of why didn't they just make Sunday a Stellaron Hunter? They could've had his beliefs tied to the script Elio gave him, which lead to motivate his Order. Once things go against the script with Stelle this could've lead to his defeat.
>>4333873Furina fans be like yooo she's so tiny and vulnerable that's so cute
>>4334564A major issue is they don't have a reason for their ideas to happen. The Astral Express have no real goals, which really hurts how a writer handles a story. It's hard for them to come up with new ideas when the plot for their characters is "and then the Express helped because they're nice people".
>>4334565I mean i dislike Hsr story but it handled the mc backstory much better then something like genshin. Since we got mind controled and set up at the start as we atleast interact with steallron hunters pretty regulary so and get some glimpses at ouer past tho i get it its annoying.As for genshin its just bad slow burn writing because the dude overseeing the project is the worst one in the whole mihoyo so there is no standart for writting or quality control because the dude legit is greedy af so he dosnt care about the rest.Idk all about that Sumeru when it was just about the wandere and nahida becoming besties as we again bearly do anything.We will also almost do nothing in Natlan.Because writers are allergic to proper victories and competant mcs.
>>4334571How? I completely disagree. Stelle has not developed at all over the course of the game.
>>4334564Im just not a fan of "lol underworld good upside down'"lol princess character good only because she lowerd herself to ouer standart and gave away prized possesion" its soo cheap and stupid as if it made her less of a person if she gave just money instead important item."princess character is good because she is from the same place as the peasants" lolBut atleast we gotta something of Seele x Bronya even if the characters are butched they atleast shipped it when they could have leand into ship with the player wich would be horrible
>>4334571I also don't get what you mean by getting regular glimpses of our past because we definitely don't.
>>4334570No they usualy have a reason to help either to get the rails moving , capture the stellaron (wich is their thing because its tied to you and the rail) or reaseraching about their past members. I hate Hsr but there is a plotline.The thing is they start milion plot lines and now they never gonna have a time to finish them
>>4334576There's arcs with a plot. You're confusing what I'm saying. I'm saying there's no overarching plot in Star Rail with each patch, which makes each patch fill like filler.
>>4334577Dont make me defend star rail i hate it.The plot is to find where and how Akivili died hence the travel allong the rail while also dealing with any stellaron on the way as it can block ouer progress
>>4334576Everything you listed the crew was doing before Stelle joined. The game doesn't focus on what's Stelle's main goal in Star Rail.>>4334579Again you're not listing what motivates Stelle. Why does she want to do this? What does she gain from doing it? Is she only doing it because the Express is? This is what I mean. Stelle has no personal goal that makes us the players cheer for her. When she's battling enemies they just feel so lifeless because there's no goal you want Stelle to archive from overcoming this enemy
>>4334579Here's an example, multiple characters are track the dragon balls in Dragon Ball, but each character has their own personal goals and desires that motivate them to do so. This is something Stelle lacks. This is my main complaint about how the writers handle Stelle as a character.
One of the things I want the most from HSR is Kafka and Stelle's past and future. But hoyo gatekeeps the hell out of it
>>4334198A pleasant surprise after all the songlema content
>>4334585(You) are there to have fun adventuring with friends. Why does it need to be more complicated than that? The whole thing is purposefully real life filler that you can start and drop whenever you feel like it. I can enjoy it for what it is.
>>4334819I would like it if it was indeed a low stake fun filled adventure, but it's not. Each arc is about planetary catastrophe and outside of a few filler part here and there, the story takes itself very seriously.
>>4334821>Each arc is about planetary catastropheThe very first arc tells you that's just business as usual for the express and nothing to get so worked up about.
>>4334823Also, it wouldn't be a fun adventure if the stakes weren't absurdly high. That's kind of what adventures are all about.
>>4334823And Stelle fucking die and has to get a deus ex machina for her ressurection. Without the will of the guardian, which nobody ever accounted for, Stelle would have died on this "business as usual nothing to get worked up about" trip.
>>4334826Yeah. And? Standard fare for world-saving adventures. Fifteen minutes later, nobody even remembers it anymore. The devs have more genre-awareness than you do.
>>4334827World saving adventure and fun filled adventure are two different genres and people don't just die and get ressurected all the time in fun filled adventure. Are you just pretending to be retarded on purpose?
Citlali and Yae should meet up. It'd do wonders for the latter to meet a character who ain't afraid to push back if pushed first!
>>4335081Yae is literally never leaving Inazuma and will at best get like 12 lines per Itto event. Also Genshin EoS soon.
>miyabi/burnice and lucy Oh neat, I can use Miyabi against fire weakers
>>4335085Yae went to Sumeru and dommed Layla.
Possibly a new female character from Inazuma
>>4335093I hope she's an Oni or at least a claymore mother because Inazuma is the one nation missing that type of woman.
>>4334570>>4334585I dont think the central plot or lack off is really the issue here. The idea of a traveling MC helping out new places during her adventure is a very common one and dates back centuries. The problem with modern Hoyo writing is there just arent enough efforts/time put into properly building up the story. They have a cool premise in mind and a BIG MOMENT they want to show and then everything inbetween is shit.Let's take a look at a recent ZZZ example. When Caesar makes up her mind to sacrifice herself, she remarks that even though the Sons of Calydon can make a living elsewhere like Lucy suggested, the other ordinary folks cant just uproot their lives. That's great, that's a real emotional hook to show her determination, combined with the sound track and the great animation on Lucy and even Lighter, it really sells you that moment......but when you really step back and think about it, who the fuck is she even referring to? The people of Blazewood? Did we really spend enough time with the town and its characters to give a shit? The answer is not really. Of course you can guess what she's referring to, but proper storytelling would make sure that you the audience cares about the things that the character claims she also cares about. And this lack of buildup problem permeates almost all aspects of Hoyo storytelling, which I can only guess is at least partly due to them being gachas
Anyone else often scroll past this thread because nothing pops out in the OP image? Even with sort by, now I got to use CTRL-F to find this
wtf the new story quest for natlan was short as hell? that was it??
https://x.com/_nyeppu/status/1861562732975399160
>>4335145At the end of the day, these are games written by soulless bugmen that don't really comprehend human emotional experiences. They copy western tales of heroics with their tropes, but at the same time have no clue what all the fuss is supposed to be about. It shows everywhere, like in Ruan Mei spamming new lifeforms around the galaxy, like a single mother giving birth to retarded babies that can have no future and then dumping them on strangers when they fail to catch her interest, and this is supposed to be just a quirky genius thing, and not the vilest atrocity that should be stopped at all costs.Either you accept these games for the absurd acid trip they are, and enjoy the gameplay and your favorite characters, or else find better use for your time.
Lighter is pure fujobait, his agent story even has him interacting with all the pretty boys including Wise at the same timeWhen the fuck are we getting our turn?
>>4335935Sis, your burnice story ?
>>4335935He went from A->S, so I'm not surprised with whatever they're doing
>>4335935>WiseWait, you're still controlling Belle in that event?
>>4335224It's basically an Interlude in all but name to set up the finale in 5.3. Let's see if they can stick the landing, maybe the yuri is at the finish line.
this new trailer made me dislike sunday even more.I haven't been following the leaks but I hope he isn't some Ruan Mei irreplaceable analogue for the new combat mechanics and we will get someone else
I like the double 'Granny' agenda they're pushing. Citlali is so obvious even her grandson is practically begging Lumine to join the family.
>>4336328A small drop in this crippling yuri drought.
>>4336643Let's see if 5.3 can clutch it for Natlan. LR is gonna be maxing out on the Liyue lesbos as usual.
<3 love these stupid lesbians
>another Grace x Zhu Yuan 3DSo random wtf
>>4337155I just really want Mavuika to have a close relationship with somebody. The few lines between her and Xilonen about each other are really not enough.
>>4337443I'm not sure anymore. It looks more and more like Genshin just throws. Both story and otherwise.I'd like to make a team with Citlali, Mavuika, Xilonen and Mualani. But the way it looks like Mavuika doesn't work well with Mualani, and Citlali doesn't work well with anyone...Oh well. Sometimes Hoyo has just retarded ideas like making a second main dps pyro after just releasing one half a year ago and ... whatever the heck Citlali is supposed to be. Considering how the relationship with Mualani and Kachina is dead as fuck, I expect nothing going forward there either. (I'd have been fine with a sisters angle)
>>4337504I love how zhuyuan and jane never actually interacted on screen but their switch voicelines makes them shippable.
>>4336328isnt it the same for both traveler's though?
>>4337500You're overthinking about the team comp. It doesnt have to be optimal to do most content in this gameWhat I'm finding Mavuika lacking is the lack of...chemistry? Dynamic? Anything. ArleFuri for example, yeah not exactly a ship with the most canon support, but there is a dynamic that people latched onto.
Lesbians find hotter older women? Because it's always the tall females the ones that yuri fandom ship together even if they don't have chemistry at all
>>4337824>yuri fandom*western ‘yuri fandom’Actual yurifags ship everything as long as the chemistry is there
>>4337824>Tall females ship together As in the same height? That's boring.
>>4337846Height gap is a crap tag
new cone
>>4337856Imagine having such shit taste
>citlali is more into aether than lumine judging by her expressions when she gets flusteredWe need playable Jeht now more than ever
>>4337894Yes yes yes!I've been shipping them ever since Ruan Mei's interlude quest
Looks like Aglaea doesn't need Sunday since she's speedy asf like Firefly, she even scales with speed.
>>4337960I’d have agreed but her energy situation looks terrible without him around. I’m not looking forward to Castorice either with her relic set needing her and her summon to be slow, which means she’ll need an adv fwd, of which only Sunday will work for the summon.I’ll wait for Tribbie and Cypher’s kits but I have 0 hope left for pulling in Amphoreus.
>>4337972Easy with the doomposting nee-san, this isn't her final form. They'll surely do something about it, after all giving a character absurd ult cost without anything on her kit that helps her get energy is just stupid.
>>4337909I have seen and it looks the same for both
>>4337982Dialog is the sameFacial expressions are different
>I came across an exceptional desert dancer! We didn't know each other's names, nor did we exchange any words, yet somehow, we found ourselves dancing in perfect harmony amidst the golden sands. Her movements radiated strength and conviction, and together we spun, waved, and stretched..Happy for Nilou and her eremite birthday sex
>>4337443All people ever wanted outta Natlan was aggressive and bloodthristy lesbians. Kill men, kiss women should've been Mavuika in a nutshell.
>>4337985No, I've compared, I'm still seeing the same. Stop lying
>>4338018The difference so small that I don't even know why they bothered but it's there. It almost looks like they just forgot to apply the expression in the Lumine version somehow.
>>4338022Knowing game devs its either>spaghetti code that female chat somehow effect the code of others>a rouge dev making it diffrent for his waifuMost likely case is that its just hoyo being hoyo and trying to pander to male players with this because they knew it would gain traction fromn drama baiters
>>4338041Wasn't there a bug where Lumine's model was replaced by Aether's in Shenhe's interlude quest? I'd say spaghetti code is the most likely
Despite the Herta x RM tease.....Algae's gameplay is looking really gorgeous, not to mention novelI'm really REALLY hoping she has a ship
ZhuYuan will be in the new chapter?
>>4338084Is whatever in the blade's reflection suppose to be something we already know or is it meant to be a hint to something else
>>4338084Yes.
whats with some author's arlecchino fics referring to her with male pronouns? since when was that a thing??
>>4338106maybe the author's ESLor a very misguided attempt to play off of her Father title, who knows
>>4338090I assume it's the new weekly boss material for her maybe? Usually big updates introduce lots of new things, but I feel like 1.4 will also be an especially huge update. The Proxies/Belle is also in this promo image. I wonder if this is when reruns finally start and if they do, if it's going to be Ellen in the first half and then Zhu Yuan or just Ellen for the entirety of it.
>>4337978I can say with certainty that she’ll remain like this as Sunday shill.
>>4338106Twitter thinks Arlecchino uses male pronouns and is non-binary or trans because she wears pants.
>>4338106>>4338234>Twitter thinks Arlecchino uses male pronouns and is non-binary or trans because she wears pants.It's probably more because of how she has the orphans refer to her as "Father."still retarded though
>>4337986Long have we demanded another Eremite character! Hoyo, you should give Nilou her desert dancer gf right now!
>>4338077No way a gal like Aglaea isn't pulling ladies. But we must wait for the other Amphoreus women to come out first.
>>4338406As a seamstress, she's gotta have some female clients she has dialog/relationship with.Staying hopeful but keeping expectations low.
>>4338252They often call Furina transmac/non-binary too
>>4338106>>4338425They call everyone trans because that's trendy among fandom autists right now and it's naturally going to be worse with any character that deviates slightly from a generic ideal of femininity.
>>4338432They really do be hating on GNC womenSad!
I think we're off to a good start on 3.0
>>4338425since when??? that just sounds stupidi feel like i'm missing out by not playing hsr since most of you talk about it here
>>4338406>>4338413Even if she does Star Rail is so bad at writing ships it wouldn't matter. 90% of Star Rail ships are written like shit. It actually made me not like Bronya x Seele because how poorly they wrote the characters.
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>>4338582
zero tingyun x yukong in this patch?
Considering the lack of posting in this thread about the new HSR patch, I guess it doesn't have anything interesting.
>>4339125>>4339166I just haven't had the time to play it yet personally
>>4339166The only interesting thing is that you don't really need Sunday as much as you need Robin.
>>4339166Only thing of note is realizing some of the characters aren't voiced.
>>4339293That’s only if you use the inferior dub
>>4339166I haven't had time to play everything yet, but so far I loved all the Tingyun scenes. Not sure if I should ship her with Ruan Mei or Yukong
>>4339166Not much,but still got some hint.
>>4339500
>>4339500the fanart didn’t blow up like it did when Herta and Ruan Mei’s Light Cones were revealed
Miyabi and Piper/Soukaku. NiceNo sign of reruns. Bummer1.4 lasts 5 weeks instead of 6 now. Huh
>>4339551If they're not going to add any new Ether chars then rerun Zhu Yuan ffs
Zhu and Miyabi were roommates
>>4339596Astra Yao is an upcoming support character. Nothing confirmed, but folks are saying Ether or Ice
>>4339506Am I the only one that hates the Tingyun stuff? The whole part felt like a cheap justification of why Hoyo made a 5 star Tingyun. It was so random and out of nowhere.
>>4339414>using dubThat's so stupid. Everyone knows that the Chinese voices are far superior
>>4339640Chinese sounds ugly and I don’t understand it. There’s no reason for me to use it over JP.
>>4339645>litteral you problems
>>4339611>Support EtherNicole already exists
>>4339645You understand JP? This is such a dumb response
>>4339655Yes
>>4339651One is limited and one is not. I'm sure you're already aware of what Hoyo does with limited supports
>>4339639The whole narrative (and marketing) keeps acting like we had a super deep and meaningful relationship with her when we never even met her
>>4339651And? You can have two supports of the same element that have completely different kits and do completely different things.
>>4339678I think the writers forgot how that story ended. We never got to know the real Tingyun. And on top of that the lack of real reaction to Stelle and March meeting her again in Penacony just makes her return fall flat. No shock to seeing her again, no questioning what happened, no nothing. All we got was the lazy clone gag and them forcing Sunday into her story. I can't tell what is worse, Hoyo believing we were closer to Tingyun than we were or Hoyo acting like Aventurine and Boothill are Stelle's friends when they aren't at the end of Penacony. Even Acheron's farewell to Stelle fell flat because they barely knew each other.
>>4339692To be fair Phantylia was pretty good at impersonating Tingyn that it was almost like meeting the real one. But they still overplay it a bit. That aside, I loved her story, power and goals. And the scene with Yukong was very beautiful too, the only mistake is them not hugging
>>4339692HSR is full of moments like that.The cutscene of Acheron doing her monologue and slashing the dream to get us back to fight Sunday again was so cool..........except the more you think about it the more meaningless it becomes because she was never that close to us and her vow to us made no sense.
>>4339551Now that I actually skimmed through the special program there's so much more new shit. Simulated Universe mode, Arknights-like event, Boss rush, new Hollow Zero, upgraded Companion Invitations, lots of QoL updates, and there's still more I didn't get to.AND we know Lunar New Year is also big for Hoyo games.
>>4339727I don't get why they do that. All it does is make the players confused, since they're relationships were never as deep as the game makes them out to be. It reminds me of when Feixiao texts Stelle to hang out. I'm left thinking why would she do that to someone she barely even knows. I'm also left pondering if this is something Feixiao would do, since the game never bothered to show us much of her personality.
>>4339771It's because the structure of the game (and more broadly the gacha structure in general) has a constant churning of new characters to keep people pulling on banners. They rarely revisit older characters for any real length of time, so they need to cram 90% of given character's development within their debut event. Hence the nonsensical I just met you 3 hours ago but we're best friends now narrative beats.
>>4339783I don't think that's the issue I'm bringing up here. The issue isn't how fast they became friends with Star Rail. The issue is when did they become friends. Aventurine, Acheron, Boothill, etc. never has a chance to become Stelle's friends. Compare that with ZZZ and Genshin where you can at least see how a friendship would form. In Star Rail they rarely do that nowadays. They pulled it off really well in Belobog.
>>4339808Ultimately what I'm saying is Star Rail has pretty bad writing when it comes to writing new characters forming bonds with Stelle in the main stories.
>>4339514That scene will kill this ship in the west. It will be branded as grooming and pedo.Yes, we already had Tingyun in Yukong's ult sprite, but since it was never touched upon, most people played dumb or thought only Tingyun knew Yukong
>>4339846As long as we get some oneeloli fanarts, I don't care
>>4339847Hardly, not even japanese artists care about lolis on these games, lolicons are mostly in BA, and its understandable.
>>4339852There's lolicons for ZZZ considering one of the lead artists draws a lot of lolis. Genshin and HSR not so much
>>4339808I genuinely liked Belobog. The pace wasnt perfect but most of the story made sense at least.Chilling with Bronya at night and seeing her slowly change her mind about the Underground and Seele felt like something out of an actual video gameThen we got fucking amazon warehouse with Xianzhou.
>>4339846>It will be branded as grooming and pedo.They tried that shit with TopaJade and were laughed out of the room. The twitter police doesn't have the power you and them think they have.
>>4339856Belobog was fine until that ending,>YOU HAVE TO LIE TO YOUR PEOPLE TO SAVE YOUR ASS, THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH.lol sure Xi pingpong.
>>4339973we dont know how the underbelly of New Eridu government operates, for all we know they could also be in the Sacrifice and fall of old Eridu business
Then again, it was pretty refreshing to have a story, where the heroes save a country, only for those people to return exactly the way they were in the beginning with the same mindset, while you just shrug and fuck off.
>>4339973>>4339994The important thing is the brewing conflict between the topside and Zaun I mean Underworld was resolved and the elevator reopened. What does telling the truth achieve except weaken an already shaky peace?
>>4340048>except weaken an already shaky peace?A completely baseless excuse that the game tries to feed you. How was the stellaron's existence the topside's fault, anyway? Telling the truth would let the people know why they had to suffer and that it's settled now. Having closure can only improve morale. The cat's gonna come out of the bag sooner or later anyway, and being caught for a two-fold lie will get a lot of people shot, normally. That's how revolutions happen.
>>4339855There are even lolis in ZZZ? Heck, about HSR, we are just getting a new one in Amphoreus after 2 years (since release)
>>4340083Have you not played ZZZ?
>>4340065Naive and stupid. Just leave the decision making to the men and women who actually make history.
>>4340048I feel like the issue is if paints a villain as a martyr, which doesn't sit well with people. Ultimately Bronya ends up doing exactly what her mother did with the same excuse as her mother, but in a way that brings people together
>>4340083They're all teens but they don't have models like Qiqi or Bailu. I swear peope are using that word as an umbrella term nowadays
>>4340309>They're all teensI swear some people are too stupid for their own good. Loli is exclusive just to children dumbass
>>4340316Isnt*
>>4340309Are you blind or just don't play the game? Or are you new to what loli means, because if you can look at Lucy and not say she's a loli you're either coping or ignorant to what lolis look like. Aoba in New Game can be viewed as a loli but she's not tiny like Bailu or Qiqi. Loli can also mean young looking, and there's a few loli bait characters in ZZZ.
>>4339717>Phantylia was pretty good at impersonating TingynWhich is kind of irrelevant since we don't spend all that much time with fake Tingyun either.
>>4340331Iirc one of the biggest complaints was that we didn't spend enough time with either Tingyun for the twist to have any punch to it. We never knew the real Tingyun to know if anything was off with the fake one. It reminds me of the weird decision of having just the player see Aventurine's backstory. It doesn't do anything for his character, since no one saw it people don't form a new viewpoint of him in the game itself. The only reason the characters are cool with him now is because the game assumes the players like him now.
>>4340333Because at the end of the day, HSR is still kind of a self insert game. A lot of Stelle action and friendliness towards some characters are made under the assumption that the players like those characters, so Stelle as an extension of those players, also like them.
>>4340316>>4340326Oof, the weirdos are here
>>4340333That and the Dan Shu subplot got rushed in order to do the Tingyun "reveal" in the original update. It was just hella stupid
>>4340340So it's weird to be right? Or are you just coping with being wrong?
>>4340316Nooooo, my 1000 year old lolis aren't lolis anymore!
>>4340337I think it's more rushed/poor writing. In past planets they didn't have to do that because they actually took the time to build a relationship between Stelle and those characters. If Belobog was made today we'd probably see Seele for 2 minutes, she leaves and does her own thing, then at the end we come together to fight Cocolia. Afterwards she talks about how great it was to might us and how we're her friend now. Instead Belobog had time to develop and allowed us to get to know both the overworld and underworld residents. We spend time with Seele and the others. I feel like since Penacony these stories wrap up too quickly. Hell till this day Sparkle has yet to justify her existence in Star Rail. I feel like HI3 is doing her more justice than her own game did.
>>4340446I'm not sure what you're trying to say here to agree or disagree with you.
>>4340452Belobog also allegedly suffered re-writes too, like the illness (forgot the name) the underground had was more severe which explains why Clara's design had those giant bandadge looking thingsBut yeah, overall it clearly had probably more development time as the first launch zone that didnt have to be rushed out the door.
>>4340701Inazuma also had rewrites out the wazoo and was the major reason why it was a clusterfuck.>>4340702Eisara in this day and age?
Black swan still flirty and thirsty,literally no lessons learned from Acheron.
>>4340987acheron got the pussy on speed dial
>>4340326Obviously, Lucy isn't a loli. Probably you are one of those morons saying that Megumin or Nico yazawa are also lolis.
RIP them...
>>4340989It you can't see that she is there's no helping you retard
>>4340988Isn't she talking about Stelle here?>>4340989Anon are you ok in the head? How can you say Lucy isn't a loli and use Megumin as an example? There's literally multiple jokes in the show where she's called a loli.
>>4341101Speaking of why is there more fanart and fanfics of Stelle and Acheron than Stelle and Black Swan? I felt like her relationship with BS had much more development. Stelle and Acheron barely talked to each other
>>4341105Acheron is more popular, that's it.
>>4341039They'll get their happy end, trust.What a great story chapter that was. I haven't been this invested in the story in a good long while.
>>4341356Same. P2 really started picking up after Ch3, glad I stuck around.
Widow Impact 3rd
>>4341356Damn, that's super cute
>>4335935>Our turnBelle has been super gay since launch though.
Heh
>>4341996?
>>4342028Yuri anime in mobile game
>>4341980I feel like she hasn't had the opportunity to really shine the last few patches.
>>4342045I'm hoping since Belle's actually included in the 1.4 promo image she'll be able to do more. All in all, new update looks story focused which I'm excited for.ZZZ's starting to add modes from Hoyo's other two games but I hope to god that they don't add Imaginarium Theater. Luckily the roster is still really small.
>>4342267My issue with ZZZ is that even with such a small roster many new characters just don't feel like must pull characters. I just don't get that same vibe as I do with Star Rail and Genshin that this character are must haves. I've skipped Ceasar, Yanagi, Burnice, and Lighter's banner and I don't feel like I've missed out by doing so. I don't know if its the marketing or what but ZZZ characters just don't hit that same level of interest as Hoyo's other games. I'm not even interested in getting Miyabi. Maybe it's because there's a lack of really good support characters to go with these characters. Or maybe it's because unlike the other games there's really no need to change up your team at any point.
>>4342267huh? the siblings are featured fairly equally in most promos since they decided to go with this route.
>>4341828
>>4342353It's whatever these images are called >>4338084 that's shown in the special program and when you open the game client. Only other time the Proxies were shown was in 1.0.>>4342339I will say appearance-wise, there's a lot of easy skips. I got Yanagi because I needed an Electric DPS and I'm getting Miyabi because I need an Ice DPS. Only reason I skipped Burnice when I needed a Fire unit is because I didn't like her being off-field. But yeah, I can see that the longer you play the game and get the characters with the attributes/roles you need, the less reason you have of getting new characters. Unless they're going to do more with the upcoming Deadly Assault mode. The Spiral Abyss-equivalent where each stage the team you previously used is locked out which will encourage players to get more units or git gud.
>>4342482Hopefully we get to see more of this reverse predator/prey dynamic
Can’t wait for 8.0’s story
>>4342576Bless Honkai Impact 3rd and its kabedons. 8.0 on global can't come fast enough..
>>4342576>womens touchingchat, is this ril?
>Astral and Body guard New yuri couple onsight
>>4342986Either she's a bodyguard or a hitwoman. Looks great though, similar outfit to Yelan/Kafka. But not a fan of Astra's outfit...
3.0 hasn't even released yet and I'm already annoyed at this summon crap.
>>4342996>Either she's a bodyguard or a hitwoman.Both is very shippable tbf
>>4343299True. So far the yuri potential is already high off the bat. Really hope Evelyn is an S-rank
>>4343399Protective bodyguard x Their charge is absolute PEAK pairing However it’s just as likely to be turned into MC pandering slop too where the bodyguard trusts the player character because (You) are “different” than the others
>>4343464It's what happened with Sanhua and Jinhsi in WuWa and it hated it. I stopped playing but I'm alittle sad I won't get to hear Sanhua's EN VA anymore.
>>4343517Nice
>>4343517The blonde eyelashes are the cherry on top
>>4343464>>4343479I never understand why people hate FMC x character yuri. For all the complaints people have for these games lacking yuri when we finally get some people still find a reason to complain. I'm guessing you anons hated Lumine x Jeht as well?
>>4343606It's a shame Hoyo never tried colored eyelashes>>4343623If you still don't get it, then arguing is pointless. Good for you though, I'd love to still be oblivious.
>>4343628Good for you I guess. Keep having fun complaining and being miserable I guess
>>4343623Because they have no substance and are just replaced by the next MC pairing. I have no problem if they pick a pairing and build it up instead of discarding it the second another girl shows up the way WuWa does.>>4343628They have, but only with a few characters unfortunately. ZZZ/HI3 have no one, HSR only has Misha, and Genshin has Chongyun, Freminet, Dori, Faruzan, and Citlali.
>>4343639>Because they have no substance and are just replaced by the next MC pairingThat argument makes little to no sense when 99% of non-MC ships has even less substance. And if they get replaced or not is entirely down to the fanbase. MarchStelle and KafStelle are both still popular, as an example.
>>4343652>fanbaseExactly, because they’ve been abandoned in game (less so for M7 because she’s part of the main cast and there will definitely be more content with her).>less substanceThey only have less substance than FF x Stelle, Kafka and M7 both barely have anything (in part due to Stelle being more silent in 1.X) much like the non-MC ships.
>>4343653>Exactly, because they’ve been abandoned in gameKafStelle is still very popular despite Kafka not having appeared directly for ages.In terms of substance and abandonment rate, if anything MC ships generally beat out non-MC ships by miles, simply because the MC is usually around. Therefore it being interchangable can't be the reason to be against MC ships.Variety, I might accept as argument. But certainly not substance.
>>4343654Look at WuWa going from Shorekeeper to Camellya in one patch, it just feels cheap and meaningless. It feels equally cheap when a character that isn’t from the permanent/recurring cast gets shipbait with the MC, because the second that arc ends they’re relegated to cameos in events at most, and that girl is abandoned for the next shiny thing.The same applies to character x character pairs once the arc ends, yes, but at least they remain there together instead of one of them moving on to other girls like nothing happened.>MC always aroundThus MC ships have far more potential as long as the character is a permanent/recurring one and they actually commit instead of going for surface level waifubait to sell the character (it also helps if the MC has more autonomy instead of being silent and under the mercy of the player’s choices). Otherwise if I have to pick between two ships that will be abandoned after their arc I’d much rather pick the one where the characters actually stay together.
>>4343657>Look at WuWa going from Shorekeeper to Camellya in one patch, it just feels cheap and meaningless.True, but now you're complaining about how WuWa specifically does it and its a notable outlier in this regard. And if anything, acts the opposite way from Mihoyo by basically refusing to let characters have relationships of any sort with anyone other than the MC since launch. >It feels equally cheap when a character that isn’t from the permanent/recurring cast gets shipbait with the MC, because the second that arc ends they’re relegated to cameos in events at most, and that girl is abandoned for the next shiny thing.Thats sort of nonsensical on two levels. First of all, at the same rate whole "couples" of NPCs get abandoned just as much (not just by narrative focus) and beyond that you are now making the assumption every ship needs to have a permanent presence in the narrative to have "any" value. But "love and leave" is also a form of relationships and there is nothing wrong with having many different kinds. You "assume" those npc pairs stay together, but generally there is ko substance to that asu ption and you could also assume the MC stays in contact with the girl who's pairing you liked with them.Would a more permanent one be potentially better? Sure, provided you happen to like the girl in question. But for example I was very hapy when we went back to March 7th after all that time with Firefly, who had virtually no substance and I cared very little about, there are games that have canon MC pairs and you should play those.Your complaint is just that you prefer monogamy, which is fair. But thats a.) not a MC-ship problem, since NPCs get re-paired often too. And b.) just you not liking someone having many different romantic entanglements, which is just pure taste.>instead of going for surface level waifubaitAs far as /u/ is relevant, its also the simple fact that players won't like a canon ship if it isn't with the pairing they like.
Kafka×Himeko and Robin+Firefly are some of the most fun ships in the gacha market, despite being essentially 100% crack. "Substance" is worthless, all that matters is if the pairing inspires the imagination. MC ships can do that and so can non-MC ships.
>>4343665>Kafka×Himeko and Robin+Firefly are some of the most fun ships in the gachaYou desperately need to play something that isn't a hoyo game
>>4343665>robin x fireflyBog standard fan x idol pairing>kafka x himekoLmaoTry HBR if you want fun ships (that are additionally not pure crack)
>>4343691>HBR if you want fun shipsMost HBR ships are pretty goddamnn boring, which I could forgive by being more explicit but they aren't even that either in most cases.Considering HBR could be about explicit relationships and those are nominally its main focus, as opposed to mihoyo games, its pretty pathetically anemic on the yuri.
>>4343665>Kafka×Himeko and Robin+Firefly are some of the most fun ships in the gacha marketPlay more than two games in your life, please.
>>4343691>Try HBRSure, lets see how RuKaren is doing.Oh... okay, but at least YukiOh, nothing there either for years.Yeah nah. HBR is pure bait, even worse than hoyoverse gachas.
>>4343713It can't be worse than the hoyoverse games who litteraly have no substance outside of HI3 and GGZ, the only reason there is any interest in the hoyoverse yuri scene is a mix of goodwill from previous title and the sheer size of the fanbase providing fan content for ship.In game, it's drier than the fucking Sahara desert.I can't see how you can compare HBR with multiple love confession, kiss and multiples explicitly lesbians characters to Hoyo who barely even has subtext.
>>4343713>HBR is pure baitNip gacha make me generally mad, when I see how many hurdles chinese gacha devs go through to deliver a crumb of yuri to us while having the CCP breath down their neck. Nip gachas could have explicitly gay girls in confirmed relationships, they just don't want to.(With rare notable exceptions).
>>4343724Not a single pairing in HBR call eachother girlfriends. Its literally all pulling away just short, every time with everyone. I suffered through that shit for years until I realised they will never commit.
>>4343639Isn't this the same community that ships Kafka and Himeko after 1 conversation, Firefly and Robin off of their designs, Arle and Furina because of 1 cutscene, and Yelan and Shenhe because of exploration or some bs? Complaining about substance doesn't make much sense to me when most ships have little substance.
>>4343657I'm confused. You're complaining about MC ships but you're using the typical gacha issues has your example to said problem? Every gacha game drops old characters for newer ones. Does Seele/Bronya even still matter in Star Rail despite still being in the same area? The only ships I feel really work what you're saying is Qingque x Fu Xuan and Navia x Clorinde.
I don't dislike HBR or anything, but could you kindly fuck off with this "hur dur our gacha is more yuri than yours" shit? Enjoy the couples you like in it, but also realise its a completly different kind of game. Especially when we all know that it won't have canon couples either, because its also pandering to waifufags anyway.At least with mihoyo I can say, back when they could make canon lesbian couples, they DID.
>>4343665I agree with your statement but disagree with the ships you picked. Those ships fucking suck
>>4343713>even worse than hoyoverse gachas.Isn't this the company where players have to cope that Ceasar is gay when Hoyo released a lot of official content of her having fantasies about het? Isn't this the same company that gave Jane 2 gay trailers just to tease her a lot with Seth in game?
>>4343749Isn't this Love Live in a nutshell
>>4343757>where players have to cope that Ceasar is gayWhy would they 'have' to do that? Some people do that, its a bit silly but all power to them. In this game you got Qingyi's musical trailer where her red ribbon flutters into the hands of her beloved partner and Jane literally picking up a cute girl and exchanging phone numbers with her. They have no need to be so desperate.>just to tease her a lot with Seth in game?That quite literally never happened. They never even mention eachother by name after the special episode and there was zero shipteasing between them in that one. Hetfags just make crackships as easily as we do.
>>4343755Got to admit it's ironic that you use Seele and Bronya from HSR as your image of choice after saying Hoyo does make couples canon. Maybe in HI3 they did with these two but in Star Rail they fumbled these two big time.
>>4343754>Does Seele/Bronya even still matter in Star Rail despite still being in the same area?They actually do get brought up quite a bit, like the phone call. Actually more so than FuQing (which, desu, I think is a much better ship).
>>4343760So you're saying that yes Hoyo is just as bad with yuri bait as HBR.
>>4343763No they don't. That's a ship riding solely on the HI3 popularity. If that ship was based just off of HSR it would have a much smaller fanbase
>>4343761Its not really ironic, its just me making a point here. When mihoyo was able to show canon lesbians, they did with BronSeele. By the time of HSR they quite literally couldn't anymore, but they still made an effort to show they still care about it.
>>4343764Which is a pretty damning indictment of HBR if anything, considering they aren't living in a country that legally bans going beyond baiting.
>>4343766Did they?
>>4343753>Firefly and Robin off of their designsNo, those two are shipped becuse their stories are obviously thematically linked, but the re-write ended up not ever having them interact leaving that connection as fertile shipping ground.
>>4343769Considering they made the first planet about those two finding to eachothers side and then made sure to keep bringing up how special and important they are to eachother? Yes, they did. You can complain about the writing quality and all that, but it'd be prety goddamn silly to pretend HSR BronSeele isn't as canon as mihoyo can physically make it these days.
>>4343768>considering they aren't living in a country that legally bans going beyond baitingI call bs here. I highly doubt a studio as big as hoyo couldn't get away with a gay ship. Reverse 1999 is a Chinese game and that game has so many yuri ships and a canon kiss with Vertin and Schneider in it
>>4343770What is Robin's story? Idol girl? She could be removed from the game and nothing would change. It's ok to ship them anon but you should still admit the ship is random as all hell
>>4343771No it isn't if anything it just shows how easy some people fall for yuribait thanks to nostalgia
>>4343771>as canon as mihoyo can physically make it these daysCurrent HI3 (aka Part2) has ships with more substance.
>>4343771Can't you argue they were only there to sell HSR to players? Same with Welt and Himeko. They were HI3 characters that were used to sell people on HSR. After they did these two haven't really appeared together much since. Bronya didn't play any role in Luka's story unlike Seele. Seele played no role in Topaz's story unlike Bronya. They are now rarely together nowadays. This is nost likely because Hoyo knows they don't have to completely rely on the old HI3 characters like they did in the beginning.
>>4343774>What is Robin's story?Let me tell you about the Charmony-dove...
>>4343778>Can't you argue they were only there to sell HSR to players?Partially true, but there wasn't a specific need to do that and there was no need to do it with these two characters instead of someone else, like Elyisa. Nor did they have to underline their romantic relationship either.>Seele played no role in Topaz's story unlike BronyaSeele appeared in Topaz's story, what do you mean? She even pointed out she would abstain from voting because she knew her choice above anyone elses would sway Bronya.
>>4343781Well they wanted Cocolia to be the villain so yeah they kinda needed Bronya as her daughter I can't agree with you there. I also disagree with any underlying romance. Unless it was so subtle you couldn't even see it. Appearing and not having a role are two different things anon. Pom Pom appeared in the Penacony story but played no role in it. To me it feels like you're giving them more of a relationship than what was there based off of HI3, which is what Hoyo wanted. This is why I said they were mainly there to sell the game.
https://twitter.com/ImAnnaNuy/status/1867881535283851409
>>4343810>Unless it was so subtle you couldn't even see it.You need to be wearing massive blinders to not see how those two and their classical "from two different worlds" story was a classical romance arc, including their subsequent vow to continue supporting eachother no matter what and the later events like their interactions in the museums event. At this point you're just being petulant, because you don't like being wrong and having no argument to make.
>>4343818Losen those goggles anon. Bronya x Seele sucked ass in HSR. I remember everyone hating Seele in the game
>>4343818>At this point you're just being petulant, because you don't like being wrong and having no argument to make.Says the anon who can't even tell one thing that makes there relationship romantic in Star Rail other than than "they support each other". You can ship all you want anon but you must be a delusional idiot to think there's any romance between them in that game.
>>4343778>Seele played no role in Topaz's story unlike BronyaSeele did offer her opinion on the deal Topaz was offering and she essentially said she trusts whatever Bronya's judgement was, so it's something
>>4343827Not really. Pom Pom agreeing on what planet they should go to next wouldn't necessarily mean he played a role in that current story.
>>4343810>Well they wanted Cocolia to be the villain so yeah they kinda needed BronyaWhy would they want Cocolia specificially? Only to make Bronya and Seele show up, the other way around they could have used other girls from the orphanage as daughters if it was about Cocolia.While BronSeele in HSR was kind of a boring story, its pretty obvious by the end they are romantically entangled. Its wild that someone on /u/ would try to deny whats obvious to even the most retarded hetfags. You are arbitrarily applying unrealistic standards and have to lie even to make those work. Its time to stop, you reached the point where you basically just say random stuff.
>>4343770>their stories are obviously thematically linkedHow so? And what rewrite?
>>4343780Is Robin's favorite sex position dovefucking?
>>4343829What kind of autistic comparison is thisSeele's comments clearly reflect the mutual trust they have in each other and add to their relationship.
>>4343831>How so?Robin's whole thing is>Its better to face reality than to live a beautiful lieFirefly used to be trapped in the illusion (dream, get it?!) of serving a glorious empire while her reality was slowly eroded by those trapping her in that dream. >>4343832Yes
>>4343665Those ships aren't even fun to ship in their own game.
>>4343834I'm guessing you can't read. I said role. What role did she play. She did nothing. Are you that dumb that you believe her agreeing with Bronya's decision meant she played any part? All you're doing is proving me right in that she played 0 part.
>>4343834>Seele has a role in the story. It's she doesn't want to give an opinion, which is essentially into doing anything The anon was making the Pom Pom comparison because here Seele is pretty much just here. She just goes along what the others want and adds nothing to the scene. This is basically what Pom Pom does when the crew vote on something. Would you say Pom Pom had a role in the Belobog ,Luofu, or Penacony stories? Their argument is if you don't you can't say Seele's inactions here should count. I for one feel like she's a non entity in the Topaz story.
>>4343623Cuz they don't matter usually. Same cutscene with the male MC, and usually the male MC is the "canon" choice
>>4343897almost none of the pairings fans make up matter especially in hoyo games where they can stop throwing bones to the fanbase at any time as they've displayed in the past. you're just trying to create an argument for the sake of it.
>>4343897But no pairing matters, since none of them are canon. For every reason people ship Himeko and Kafka they can ship Kafka and Stelle or Kafka and SW. At least people who don't like Firefly and Stelle have a legit reason. They either like Stelle and March or didn't buy into the way FF was written. But to say ships with the MC don't usually matter when no ship matters, since everyone can be shipped with everyone and no ship is canon, is kinda weird to me.
>>4343897Not everyone carries your victim mentality
Guys..I'm not disagreeing with yall. I agree none of these ships matter in the end, I was just commenting on the MC crap lol. Ofc they don't matter, they just do ship fuel cause thats what keeps the fans uppity. The only gacha with an actual lesbian couple is still D4DJ lmao
Looks like 1.5 character information will be leaked on the 16th while actual attack animations are at a later date. Fingers crossed Evelyn is S-rank and Astra's bodyguard.
Belle's gets all the girls
Yay
>>4344002I don't think you understand anon. We disagree with your stance on MC ships.
>>4344151Why does it bother you so much that some people don't self insert?
>>4344086This is clearly bodyguard talk Hope they have a lot of interactions and minimal sibling pandering
>>4344002Fuck off anon
>>4344162Again fuck off anon. Keeping crying while we're all happy shipping Stelle with the ladies. Who the fuck are you to care about who people ship with the MC. Fuck you and your "self insert" bullshit
>>4344175This argument started with someone getting upset that some people don't like MC ships. Nobody is telling you what you can and can't do. You're the only person crying here about other people's opinions.
>>4344179No, it actually started with someone complaining about MC ships and then making up a bunch of bullshit reasons as to why. Subsequently getting increasingly mad as they were being called out on how little their reasons hold up.Instead just say next time you don't like the MC or whatever, instead of pure nonsense like "they don't matter".
>>4344165>Hope they have a lot of interactions and minimal sibling panderingTheir patch is almost certainly another special episode, in which the siblings pretty much don't matter at all.
i wish i played hsr so i knew what the hell you guys are talking about
They're cute now that I think about it.
>>4344002>>4344162Anon you ok? Just because you ship Stelle/Lumine/Belle with someone doesn't mean you self insert. That doesn't even make sense. No one said they were any of those ladies.
>>4344179Stop trying to make yourself the victim anon. No one is buying it.
>>4344271>>4344272Why else would you ship them? Gacha MCs aren't real characters. I'm surprised to see so many waifufags on /u/ considering this kind of pandering is usually something /u/ hates about gachas and the guys who play them.
>>4344271Mind you I wasn't the anon who said something about self insert. I just said MC shipping doesn't matter in the end, which is obvious to anyone who knows how gachas handles ships. You can still participate in them obviously, just nothing of note will come of them.
>>4344302Just like every other ship basically. You're so fixated on the MC you've deluded yourself into believing that's only a MC issue. Why do you care about that anyway?
>>4344301>Why else would you ship them?Its fun. >wahhh everyone liking things I don't like is [boogieman]Grow up.
>>4344301I like how you're trying to twist this as if you're not the issue. This idiot here talking about waifufags in regards to gacha games. Talking about self inserts in regards to shipping people with the MC. And saying the MC isn't real as if any of the other characters are. Anon pls go to /vg/. Clearly no one here likes you.
>>4344309Anon might be having a mental breakdown or something. I have never seen any gacha game where people constantly complain or hate Female MC ships. So many people love Ruki in HBR, Vertin in R1999, the Hoyo female leads, Gudako in FGO, Djeeta from Granblue, and so many more. Not sure why they're acting like their issues is universal when it's the furthest from the truth.
I will continue to have fun wrong, with ships that have no substance and just make me happy.
On a entirely unrelated note, I'm happy to see that ZZZs volume of yuri fanart has been steadily increasing over time.It looked a bit sparse at launch.
>>4344319No one said no to
>>4344308I was just responding specifically about "MC" ships. I know it applies to every other ship as well,silly-head. I pretty much said that in my initial reply ? Cmon
>>4344338So you admit your post made no sense and was pointless.
>>4344347Yeah, no point arguing with you further. Reading comprehension isn't your strong point.
>>4344321>imageI really like her trust/hangout stuff. From dreaming about Belle to whatever this is
>>4344359You literally made no point. On top of that everyone here disagrees with you. Hell >>4344310 asked you to leave. You should follow their advice
>>4344321Careful sharing this image. That person that hates MCs might start yelling into their pillow
NGL, I'm more interested in the yuri potential of Lan Yan and the Mizuki drip marketing than seeing how Natlan ends.
>>4344405Holy fuck you really are seething. Nobody is telling you you can't self insert.
>>4344302>>4344338Anon were you born stupid or something?
>>4344437>self insertOK yeah I can see you were born dumb. I hate people who immediately jump to the bs self insert line when people ship the MC with a female character. It has no basis and is clearly said by someone who has no argument.
>>4344200I wish I at least stuck around till Penacony, but I couldn't. It's so awful.
>>4344441Penacony has to be the biggest low point in Star Rail. Nothing worked and so many characters were just there to fill in time and add in more pointless yapping. I sometimes forget Ratio and Argenti were even in Penacony's story.
>>4344443At least Penacony had good ideas, even though it failed to execute any of them. Luofu never had any potential, it was just a bunch of crates, Gary Stu general who is always right and China shilling. I don't mind showcasing Chinese culture, my issue is that the China nation's plot is always very sanitized and boring, and most characters are too perfect
>>4344405>>4344437Get a room
>>4344440If that was true you wouldn't be getting so angry just at the idea of someone not liking MC ships.
>>4344510No one said you couldn't like it idiot. People are just tired of your bs back handed comments at people who do. Again are you stupid or something?
>>4344461Personally I think it's worse to have some good ideas and waste them than to be mediocre. On top of that there was no emotional weight in Penacony. It doesn't help when your story can be solved by just waking up. It meant the express was never in any real danger. >>4344437How am I seething when you're the one punching shadows and trying desperately to get anyone to listen to your dumb opinion. No one agrees with you. Move on anon.
The bodyguard
>>4344516Penacony made me want to take these concepts and write a canon divergence fanfic. If I had more creativity and skills I would. Luofu made me want to throw the whole thing away, it can't be saved.>your story can be solved by just waking up.This wasn't true in Penacony though. When the AE arrived they were in the real world and went through everything we see, but without Misha. They could still die outside the Dreamscape (and I think there were cases of people going comatose after being attacked in the dreams). And if Sunday wasn't defeated they would be stuck in there forever.
>>4344518Ohh wait, she's also Astral's manager.
>>4344518She...really looks good. I love the color of her eyes. The trope is every lesbian's wet dream
>>4344521>>4344518>"Ms. Yao is currently enjoying her private time and will not be taking any interviews."Evelyn Chevalier>"10 o'clock, guy in black. He's suspicious. I'll take care of him.">"You watch the perimeter. Don't let any suspicious individuals near Ms. Yao.">"No one gets closer to Ms. Yao than my position."Very VERY good lines....hope there's more.
whos astra yao?
>>4344538A singer whose poster you may have seen around the city. She has just been revealed as an upcoming character with a slightly new look than the poster.
>>4344538Famous singer. You can see her in the store and outside Bardic Needle as well as on the big screen in Lumina Square
>>4344540dont ever remember seeing her posters around the city though
>>4344545
>>4344535It was likely, but its also good to see they're eachothers BiS. Now hopefully one of the other idols can replace Lighter as stunner.
>>4344518idk she looks ok? maybe its just me though
>>4344552She's pretty hot, but another patch with 2 Agents that are just kinda hot busty women is a bit of a letdown.Hopefully they make up for it with yuri potential, otherwise its back to saving for me.
>>4344553She's honestly clicking everything for me. I need to know what she fights with though. Looks like wires but now she's holding a knife? I'm assuming what they showed at TGA was gameplay footage
>>4344437What's self inserting have to do with shipping Stelle with March? Or Vertin with Sonetto? So because I like these ships I self insert as Vertin or Stelle? That's ridiculous
>>4344519The issue with Penacony is that the issues in Penacony didn't matter to anyone outside of Penacony. That's why I said it could be solved if we just woke up. Stelle, March, Himeko, Dan Heng, and even Welt had nothing to do with Penacony's problems. Worst is the fact no one Stelle meet had anything to do with Penacony. FF, BS, Acheron, Sparkle, and Boothill didn't live there nor had any investment to its problems. Who cares about the concepts when you don't care about about the people the execution actually impacts. At least with the Luofu you grew to care for characters like Qingque, Fu Xuan, Yukong, and Sushang. Since they were natives to the planet you feel more inclined to help. Meanwhile in Penacony you only loosely got to meet a couple of the characters (and one of them was already technically dead). We never are directly confronted by Sunday. We never see how his plans impact the people of Penacony like Belobog, since the people are mostly just throwaway npcs. It all just feels so lifeless. Penacony feels more like a place for these characters to fight than an actual planet with citizens you care to see be safe. Even Robin feels like a meh character despite the game trying to act like she's more than that.
>>4344552>>4344553ZZZ has nice looking characters but after awhile they all start blending together. The issue with Hoyo is they have so many games now their character designs are starting to become stale. The characters are all starting to lose any from of individuality. When I saw >>4344518 I legit couldn't tell which Hoyo game she was from at first.
>>4344569Eh, you can easily tell by how modern the clothes look. The only one that's kind of difficult is Astra's
>>4344549Just use Qingyi then.
>>4344569I felt like ZZZ had a nice visual identity at launch, its just gradually been going away.HSR had the same problem, imo.Its probably because the initial character design for most new characters is AI prompted and then touched up. Only a few characters get lead artist attention.
>Evelyn wants Stunner or Support>Astra wants Attacker or AnomalyOdd and interesting they aren't activated by their faction. Either they're thenonly ones in it, or they're supposed to be seperated from the Virtual Idols within the faction.But, it means Astra can slot into Zhu/Qing and Qingyi can be the stunner for Evelyn/Astra, which is good news to me.
>>4344600>Nicole is now out of the league RIP
>>4344600We'll see. It's all subject to change. Miyabi also changed in this regard during the beta. Would be nice if I had something to look forward too though, because next patch sure doesn't have anything. (Miyabi fits neither into Zhu nor Ellen teams)I hope they just don't do faction or element ever again. It restrict so pointlessly.
>>4344571Can you when HSR hasn't characters with modern clothes?
>dat miyabi x zhu yuan's leakOhh, I'm ready
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>>4344649I really like Lumine and Shenhe's height gap
Came back to HI3 and the attack and evasion buttons being different from ZZZ is playing havoc with my muscle memory
>>4344755You could just rebind them
>>4344006>1.5 beta attack animationsIt's out. Evelyn's ult looks great, reminds me of WuWa's Changli with the way they deal with her on/off jacket. Love that Astra's wielding a staff-like weapon, really amplifies the mage gameplay.
>>4344618>. (Miyabi fits neither into Zhu nor Ellen teams)Since I like Miyabi and Ellen, I'm gonna try and brute force them to work together somehow. Since Miyabi is her own element, they can produce Distortion at least.
>>4344794>>4344795The art of these two are going to be very sweet.
>>4344788Play with who you want not who you think goes well together.
>>4344518She looks like a Rosajean lovechild that was sent into the future. Me gusta.
>>4344647>>4344648>>4344649>>4344651Shenhe shoud also meet Lumine's other gfs too.
I normally don't ship for the hell of it but I'm hoping to see art of Evelyn and Jane. Two sexy badasses.
>>4345070Ah so that's the reason why the game didn't try to ship yanagi with miyabi.
>>4345070What is this again
>>4345106From the main story 1.4 perhaps
>>4345106Its from 1.4. There are a few more with Zhu and Miyabi.Looks like Miyabi gets send to jail and Zhu helps Phaethon in breaking her out.
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I've seen people yapping about how dry is canon yuri content in Genshin and HSR and how Penacony or Luofu's stories ain't god, but... let's take this discussion to another direction.Canon Ayaka>>>>>>>Fandom Ayaka. IDK about you, but I kinda hate the dandere/yandere vibes people give to Ayaka and Firefly, it's just so bland and boring, like a damn western dream GF whom is borderline jealous at you.Seriously, at least the subtle crumbs Hoyo throws showcasing Ayaka's affection are fun to find. I always enjoy playing events with her and stuff, because it's in character for her. Ayaka ain't the girl whom would say " I fucking love you and if I see you walking with Yoimiya I'll slice her and myself later", and more like " The moon is beautiful tonight" type of hint.No seriously, personal take, I hate the young, western obsession with the jealous GF.
>>4345110Can't wait to see Zhu Yuan with her two girls
>>4345120Fanart always does that, Its meant for fun, you are right about Ayaka's affection being subtle and enjoyable though in game, Firefly's isn't but that also fits her personality more.The Wink scene after the sword fighting tournament in Genshin was a treat we have not gotten since
Damn, I can't wait for chapter 7
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC-2c1cB74Y>MomijiMMD is back
>>4345120I always thought Ayaka acted that way in fanart because of the meme where her banner was extended for so long during covid.
>>4345261That definitely contributed, but it doesn't apply in Firefly's case though. I think there is a bit of a Flanderization of a character's traits involved too.Most of the times, I like the fandom portraits more than the canon, like Fandom Lumine sometimes being portrait as a raging lesbian pervert, or how Furina got the Aqua treatment before 4.2, but Ayaka was always one I like the least.
>>4345120>Canon Ayaka>>>>>>>Fandom Ayaka. IDK about you, but I kinda hate the dandere/yandere vibes people give to Ayaka and FireflyYou're not saying anything new
>>4345523idk i mean would you be mad if you cant look up their asses anymore? it doesnt really matter to me much anyways i dont do that stuff
I don't think anyone cares about this except /vg/ coomers
>>4345110Just finished the story. Basically it was all an elaborate plan by the villains to make a situation so that Miyabi lets herself arrested and then take the power of her cursed sword to power up themselves… as they found a way to turn themselves into powerful Etherals but still maintain their sanity. Also that they wanted to have the curse take over Miyabi so she accidentally kills a bunch of civilians for even more cartoonish evil hijinks. Lucky Zhu Yuan pushed her into the Hollow so Miyabi only went berserk on some regular Ethereal mobs
https://x.com/Hiru3152/status/1869339788320625074Nice Zhu Yuan and Miyabi crumbs
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>>4345788This is my favorite one
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>>4345797Wel trained
>>4345812>>4345814What no one cares about and finds sad is you two fighting over the sizes of fictional characters butt's. Go back to /vg/ with that crap.
If you're going to have a retarded argument over half of the thread, at least post something of value along with it.
>>4345834Can you not read anon? I'm not even that person. Are you stupid or something? I'm just gonna ignore you now>>4345800Stelle x Kafka is my favorite ship
Alright, so Stelle and evil women
>>4345841>ib4 "they're not that evil, other hoyo women are more evil"
>>4345841Is Ruan Mei evil? She did save Tingyun. She doesn't go to see her and Stelle's kids though. Leaving Stelle as a single mom is a bit evil
>>4345843Stelle and morally unfettered women just doesn't have the same ring to it.
>>4345841Stelle has a thing for evil ladies
>>4345841>>4345842>>4345844>>4345845Since the next planet is Greek gods themed I hope one of those ladies is just outright evil. Stelle could use a ship that's less wholesome and just toxic. A character that wants to kill and have hate sex at the same time.
>>4345846Jade and Kafka is the cloest we're ever gonna get, forget about it.
>>4345846You're going to jinx it and it's going to be one of the edgelord warrior
>>4345846Your only hope is Obsidian showing up. The IPC seems to be the only ones allowed to be evil.
>>4345850Oh god no. I still hate that we got Childe and Wanderer as our close Harbingers instead of Signora being in a love/hate relationship with Lumine
>>4345851Praying to Lain, Madokami and all the yuri gods that Obsidian has yuri potential with 'someone'. You cannot have a sexy vampire lady 'not' play out her full gay potential.
>>4345854Plus she's a red head. Hoyo redheads are usually gorgeous. From her silhouette her design reminds me of the red head vampire woman from FGO. It's been a long time since I played that game so I forgot her name. I wonder if the joke with her is people have to pay their debts in blood. On a side note anyone else want to see her bite March and Stelle. Or even better bite Himeko?
>>4345860>so I forgot her name.Baobhan Sith aka Tristan aka BobWho could have had a GREAT ship with her quasi-mom Morgan, if the latter had not been monopolised by MC shipping.
>>4345863There's also Pearl. If Steven Universe taught us anything is that a character named Pearl is usually the gayest character.
>>4345867>western shit.
>>4345869Well I am from the west so I used that as an example. It was just a harmless joke anyway. No need to take such offense to it
Slightly off-topic, but Bob is gorgeous and particularly so with the woman who never forget her for countless lifetimes.Shame she has close to no yuri art.
>>4345872She has art with her mom and Gudako. Unfortunately not as much as the others have with Gudako or Gudako has with Morgan
>>4345869I have more of a problem with the undesirables it lured to /u/ than with western shit itself. And that Pearl had a nice gay song about the woman she loves, so I forgive it (never watched the show though).>>4345867IIRC Pearl was the robot/AI right? Imagine her with Obsidian.
>>4345875>Pearl was the robot/AII wonder how she'd interact with someone like Clara who takes care of robots.
>>4345876Isn't it kinda implied Clara 'is' a robot?
>>4345877I won't lie to you anon but it's been so long I forgot. I think it was an up to interpretation thing but you could be right.
>>4345845The whole Phantylia thing would have been way better if she had tried more to tempt Stelle while posing as Tingyun.
>>4345875Please Hoyo give us more sexy women that wear glasses. Cloud Retainer is the only hot adult character that wears them.
>>4345882>Cloud Retainer is the only hot adult character that wears them.Yanagi? Though HSR is missing a bespactacled woman.
>>4345881It would be cool to see Caterina try to corrupt the Trailblazer. Or take interest in them due to Stelle possibly having a connection to Nanook
>>4345884I forgot about her. I don't play ZZZ as much as the other two. So yeah Star Rail is missing a hot adult woman. I don't count Pela, since she is a teen.
>>4345887Yeah Pela is really cute, but more girl than woman. Even though she is supposed to be just a stunted womanlet.
>>4345889Pela x Lynx is so under appreciated. They are so cute
>>4345900I honestly liked it better before they retconned Pela into being way younger. Somehow her being a jaded, overworked womanlet who gets smashed after work and then being with the energetic cute of Lynx made it better.Made it feel like healing for her.
>>4345906Especially with Stelle, Hook, and Serval probably driving her crazy at the museum
>>4345120Yandere Ayaka is just Aetherfag bullshit. Just look at how they massacre Keqing and Nilou's personalities for their dogshit agenda.
>>4345906Pela age was one of the dumbest things Hoyo ever did. What even was the point?
I'm so happy we don't have to fight fuckass Nineveh every week now.>>4345684Can't wait to play the story when I have time. Saw a few screenshots and I love that it's established they're familiar with each others' parents
>>4346029Most importantly, Miyabi is friends with Zhu Yuan's Mom
>>4346043She really is everyone's husband
>>4344569>I legit couldn't tell which Hoyo game she was from at first.i can tell because genshin models are legit embarassingly bad
zhuyabi real
This sounds like a yuri plot if I've ever heard one.
>>4346043Miyabi truly won the Zhu bowl before the rest even got to play.
I hate when they pull that shit
>>4346230Great… more “evidence” for the wisecucks to throw around
>>4346230Did they actually bother changing the dialogue? LmaoThey didn't change Belle pandering in the main story any
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>>4346230Wow that’s some bullshit right there
>>4346230i hope someone in china is crazy enough to pull a CEO killer stunt on Dawei
After playing the epilogue, I got the impression that Astra is really into Evelyn, very cute
>>4346230I already warned, it was a bad idea to make differences between options for both playable Mcs with Jeth back in the day. I saw people saying that jeth thing was something from the translation and the oficial CN dialogues are the same for both Lumi or Aether. Not sure, i haven't seen anyone proving it, could this be the same?
>>4346115You are either blind or have never seen Ei, Yelan, Deyha, Yae, Jean, or Xilonen
>>4346230It's a Chinese game with mostly male players. We shouldn't be surprised about this. The writing was on the wall since Ceasar. We can only accept the crumbs they give us.
>>4346230If thats not just english translation fuckery, they lost my money for good with that one.>>4346358It is actually surprising because its the first time they've done this. They didn't for any similar scenes. Pure retardation, but probably the consequence of allowing players to change avatars. Made them feel confident waifufags who picked Belle wouldn't be too mad at them.
>>4346119That's already her relationship with Soldier 11
>>4346395This reminds me of the Citlali crap and the Robin/Caelus bs from Genshin and Star Rail
>>4346397I'm pretty sure the Citali thing was made up.
>>4346397I'm not aware of anything about Robin and Caelus? At any rate, it hasn't happened before in ZZZ and is a pretty large divergence that I can't think of an equivalent for in any other Hoyo game. Pretty disappointing change of form for Mihoyo and doesn't bode well for the future of the game sofar /u/ is concerned if they censor even MC pandering.
>>4346395>they lost my money for good with that one.Always only give money to a gacha in exchange for yuri. Not getting any this patch but Zhu/Miyabi were good enough, I'll see if they can make me open my wallet for 1.5 pair.
>>4346230I guess I'm the odd one out in not caring much either. Just like the butt censorship earlier, I dislike censorship principally but...A chinese fantasy setting is gonna default to chinese laws, same as a american does to american etc. Women can't marry in china and certainly neither in New Eridu.Doesn't mean they can't be in a relationship and the game has women openly attracted to other women anyway. The only one who suffers here is people who a.) doesn't care for forbidden love and b.) for some reason ships Belle/Miyabi over Zhu/Miyabi (who fed well this patch).
>>4346403The PV had Robin with Caelus having a secret meetup which to many fans stating Robin is a het character. I believe the game even states Robin is spotted with a man instead of someone to leave it open to it being either him or Stelle.
I love them
>>4346415I've slowed down rolling in Hoyo games immensely. I don't roll for meta anymore. I haven't gotten anyone since Jane Doe. Same with Genshin and Star Rail. Right now I'm focusing on games with better yuri like R1999. Vertin is the best gacha protag ever for me. Matilda is also a treasure.
>>4346423>. I believe the game even states Robin is spotted with a man That wasn't one of her PV's and the "man" wasn't robin herself disguised?
>>4346429Pretty similar for me, last one I tried to get was Jane too. Just like with other media, there is increasingly more and more proper yuri content in gacha I don't really need what scraps mihoyo managed to smuggle past the ccp. I spend some when they deliver but its been a while.
>>4346430>and the "man" wasn't robin herself disguised?In-game, yes. There is a running gag around her disguising abilities.
>>4346358This post reeks of conformism >>4346419In the Aranara missions (genshin) theres a little girl saying she wants to marry Rana (another girl). I wonder if it get the pass because it's a child after all.
>>4346436>I wonder if it get the pass because it's a child after all.Probanly the difference is a sentiment vs. a (pretended) fact. In the ZZZ scene the other character needs to think they could genuinly be their fiance, its not just expressing affection or something like that. I think even if it had been a joke in that scene it wouldn't have changed, but since it would have implied women 'can' marry in New Eridu, it wasn't.
>>4346443>it wasn't.It was. Sorry.
>>4346436Anon its a little girl. What's wrong with you?
>>4346230>claim there's no difference in content when it comes to choosing either sibling>do this>develop a cute relationship with Zhu Yuan and Miyabi >nope, gotta tease something between her and the male PC and only the male PCThe saddest thing is that Wise not only gets het pandering but also fujo pandering with Lighter and Lycaon
>>4346433That and I just haven't had the desire. Rappa, Sunday, Fugue, etc might seem useful in Star Rail, but the issue with Star Rail is the game tries too hard to make everyone meta and overly powerful. It might have the biggest issues when it comes to powercreeping in all the Hoyo games. Why get Fugue now when in 4 months they'll probably be someone that can do what she does but better.
>>4346451>gotta tease something between her and the male PC and only the male PCThis would make sense if Miyabi said it, but considering the context and reactions its really not that.
>>4346451>>claim there's no difference in content when it comes to choosing either siblingDid they ever say this ? ZZZ has the most difference between the two protag, as they're both characters and they have exclusive section where you play the other sometimes.
>>4346456They have not and personally I enjoy that they have been making them distinct characters.
>>4346455I wish I had your optimism https://x.com/Adventzx1/status/1869599386633966026
>>4346468I won't even bother opening your random twitter post. Stop engaging with the mentally ill, it will improve your life tremendously.People don't require facts to be dead convinced of whatever they want. Mihoyo literally can't stop that either. They had Jane establish a specific type of cute, tiny girls she went for wherever possible and yet...
I'm done with hoyo stuff, good luck for the future everyone
Some of you really need to chill out
>>4346479If you can't be mad about autistic shit no one else would understand why it matters here, where else? Let them vent.
>>4346472Other than teasing that one short cop has she traded any other short girl? I haven't played in awhile
>>4346484The Mountain Lion liasion she exchanged numbers with. That one realy drove it home, when you could watch their models in front of eachother while flirting and Jane just towered over that tiny qt and could have just picked her up.Also the thiren she chased in the other trailer and the girl she interrogated in the ASMR. And Belle in the special episode (an indication because its not player dependant).Now to be fair, almost all girls are tiny before Jane but still.
>>4346479I don't mid venting. Hell I don't even mind the line. What annoys me is the lack of equal treatment. If they wanna ship tease Wise with Miyabi than they should do the same with Belle and characters like Zhu Yuan or Ellen. Have them have lines that are exclusive to her that have subtext undertones.
>>4346485Jane has always been tricky character to work with /u/ wise. I don't know how much is her honest feelings towards ladies and how much is it her femme fatale personality, especially since most of the girls you mentioned are npcs. I hope in the future she gets more interactions with Belle and Zhu Yuan.
>>4346487We've had that too with Jane especially, and we'll get more
>>4346495If anything I enjoyd the fact she just picks up random NPC ladies, instead of going after agents. Makes it feel more like she just does it casually and habitually, when its not just plot relevant characters.Just a shame people don't care about NPCs, sl those interactions get little traction.
>>4346496We have special lines with Jane that Wise doesn't get? What?>>4346497Yes, people have been shipping her with Seth despite her apparent canon personality. It reminds me of Scaramona instead of Monafischl. That's why I didn't like that much the fact that every girl she has been flirting so far are NPCs
>>4346495>>4346485not like it fucking matters since everyone and their mom ships her with seth anyways >>4346230did anyone really expect any different?
>>4346500>not like it fucking matters since everyone and their mom ships her with seth anywaysThat ship has been dead for ages already.
>>4346497Cute NPC girls need romance too and I love the fact Jane gives it to them. Makes her feel like a real lesbian femme fatale.
>>4346499Yeah, she specifically refers to Belle as the "cute manager" among other lines and doesn't say that if the PC is Wise both times.
>>4346510Are you sure? I haven't seen people making drama out of that yet, so I doubtFunnily enough i've seen more about citlali thing wich is actually a nothingburguer.
>>4346512This only is 'drama' on /u/ either, just like in the other places the Jane thing was 'drama'. Both are irrelevant. Belle and Wise are different characters and are treated differently.
>>4346497The only npc that gets any love is Jeht. I think she's the first npc people asked to make an actual character. Even Hoyo knows how loved she is
>>4346499>>4346501Seth x JaneScaraMona Ruan Mei x RatioWhy do het fans always try to force het on characters with superior yuri ships?
>>4346517Poor taste, naturally.
>>4346468so odd seeing people call belle wise's wingwoman? like what???
>>4346294A beacon of light in these dark times.In all seriousness though, I'm super excited for them.
>>4346525>peopleIt's het pigs that want every game to be a harem collectathon, they want belle to be just one of their mindless drone wives but have her be quirky by helping their (unfortune)self-insert get compliments and attention from video game npcs.
>>4346544I'm ok with them wanting a harem of wives in their gacha game. The issue is them being delusional enough to think it's only exclusive to the male MC. If Aether has a harem to them so should Lumine. Same with Stelle and Belle. The funny thing is they're the first ones to say the female MCs aren't special or different from the men, yet also the first ones to whine about yuri not existing and all the girls want just the males.
>>4346557On some level, I can't help but feel bad for them. Society is so fucked that some people have to live vicariously through a video game character to get any sense of validation. This illusion of masculinity is quite literally all they have. Its easy to laugh at them, but its just kinda fucked up how things got this bad. Our old otakus had more self-esteem than this sad bunch. And they were really not healthy people either.And honestly people like >>4346468should watch out they don't end up in that pit too, because this seething about other people somewhere in the vastness of the internet possibly liking things you don't approve of isn't good or healthy either.
>>4346560I don't even know how that guy found that tweet. It's like he's intentionally seeking out trouble.
>>4346563If anything, it's cause they can't because of the difference in dialogue choices. Are you stupid or you just can't read?
>>4346230>>4346321>>4346451The follow up to this is Belle says Miyabi cant just leave her fiance right and Miyabi says Fiance to Belle, as if Belle is the actual fiance. This was enough to drive the obsessed fan away.Basically both version still use the proxy as the Fiance as an excuse to turn down the fan, but Wise gets to make the claim directly while Belle's is more roundabout.
>>4346468Belle literally doesnt even say the word Brother
>>4346580EN or JP dub? Or both?
>>4346584Just watch the video in >>4346468It's clear as day that Belle is framed as the fiance in her version too, but it CAN be interpreted as her talking about her sibling if you want to see it that way. But she never actually says the word brother.That little plotline is literally a female fan at first claiming to just admire Miyabi but when Miyabi, being an autist, accidentally makes the fan think she wants a romantic relationship, the Proxy as to step in to diffuse the situation. So lesbianism was the entire plot.
>>4346560I agree. I like living in my own little bubble in saying fuck what canon lines say. Zhu Yuan is bedding both Miyabi and Belle. I also feel like there's some localization bs going on, since Lucy's dad was ok with allowing Belle to be with her. This has the same energy as Maid Dragon's dub changing "but I'm a woman" to "I'm not into women". Anyway here's a cute yuri pick for everyone to forget about this bs
>>4346587So it was just nothingburger then.
>>4346589I think people are mad at the implication that Belle's line could mean she's talking about Wise. Compared to Wise's line firmly being about himself. I think the best way to put it is if you're playing a game where you can be both genders and talking to a woman and the guy says "Let's go on a date" while the woman says "Let's hang out alone together". They both somewhat say the same thing but one has way less implications than the other. Ultimately the line changes being bad depends on how you interpret it. Personally Belle is the more direct extrovert of the two so her just saying "I'm here fiancee" makes more sense to me.
>>4346589Yes the whole thing leads to nowhere, but it is undeniable that they made Wise's dialog choice explicit while Belle's is more subtle.
>>4346591Well, I think it's understandable that some people are not happy about the line being different.But perhaps more importantly, in this social media obsessed world we live in, some of us are not happy that OTHERS chose to interpret it a different way than us and are going around spreading their interpretation as facts. I wish I had a magical pill to make me not care but I gotta confess that when I clicked into that twitter link and saw the poster claiming Belle was referring to her brother, even though the video literally doesnt say the word brother, it kind annoyed me.
>>4346595It annoys me too. It's like when I watch a video of Belle and someone in the comments mentions Wise. It shouldn't but it does. Here i think what sucks is Hoyo allowing people to interpret it as Belle being a wingman. On another note why isn't there more art of Qingyi and Belle? Zhu Yuan thinking they were dating that one time should've lead to a lot more fanart
>>4346572Because it's self insert shit that doesn't matter. They'll never follow up on it, and if that kind of thing really bothered you you'd stick to games like Heaven Burns Red. You don't have to interact with those people, and they'll keep drawing het art just like people will still draw yuri art of Belle and Miyabi. And because hetfags are more common it means there'll probably be more of it but that's just something you have to deal with with these kinds of games.
>>4346358Isn't this whole debacle because the PRC apparently upped it's censorship lately?
>>4346610I'm confused how China censors games. Does it depend on what region you're from? Or how big the game is? Azur Lane is a Chinese game and it's as gooner of a game as you can find. Arknights and WuWa also have their fair share of fanservice as well (not as crazy as AL but it's still there). All these games have way more fanservice than Hoyo games yet it feels like Hoyo is the main one having to censor or nerf the ladies.
>>4346625I believe AL is heavily censord in CN too but Global/JP runs a different version despite being on the same patch.Anywyas, at the end of the day....fan content is all one can rely on.
>>4346625>yet it feels like Hoyo is the main one having to censor or nerf the ladies.People like to blame the ccp for things that entirely hoyo's decision
>>4346688It's not as bad as what FGO goes through in China
>>4346610>because the PRC apparently upped it's censorship lately?Interestingly, the PRC actually recently 'liberalised' some of its restrictions on media content, rather than upping the restrictions.But lets not forget Mihoyo isn't just a video game company, its leadership are party members and the CCP specifically singles its games out as chinese cultural exports. They invested money directly into the company for the making of Genshin Impact. So mihoyo has to toe the party line even more closely than anyone else.>>4346625See above. + Keep in mind most censorship and similar laws in china exist to give the goverment an excuse to step on you, not to enforce any coherent standards. So it literally depends on how much they care about you. Other games like AL had to censor a lot once they became too well known.
>>4346718>FGOWhat did you just delete?
This thread is not talking nearly enough about how strong Miyabi/Zhu has been this patch. Miyabi was coached in Zhu-whispering directly by her mother. That woman knows who she wants to be her daughter-in-law.
>>4346882Definitely a good patch for their fans.
>>4346882Ship will be dead in 2 months
>>4346954Its been alive since launch. I doubt it.
>>4346882>tells Belle to give it a try>says this is a Zhu x Miaybi momentAnon I don't think telling someone else to whisper in another woman's ear is shipping fuel. If anything wouldn't this be Miyabi pushing Belle and Zhu Yuan together?
Anyone else pretty indifferent to Mavuika compared to Furina, Nahida, and Raiden? Outside of Xilonen, Mualani, and Kachina I haven't really cared for the Natlan cast much.
>>4346957Nah, thats just Miyabi being her usual autistic self. The relevant part here was the one anon didn't post, that Zhu Yuan's mom taught her how to do that.
>>4346957>If anything wouldn't this be Miyabi pushing Belle and Zhu Yuan together?Not remotly, unless you completly ignore the character and situation. Fox trying to help and revealing she's experienced in gently whispering to Zhu. There is no pushing together going on with her.
>>4346962She legit told Belle to do it herself. Unless she's got a cucking fetish I'm not seeing it
>>4346963Teaching someone how to get along with a mutual friend isn't cucking. This is just making you sound braindamaged.
>>4346965Sure why don't you loosen you goggles retard>>4346966Amber x Lumine is so cute
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>>4346957You can ship it, but this patch definitely fed Zhu/Miyabi more, with the focus on their respective families knowing and approving of the other.
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>>4346967>says this>posts Amber/LumineIts cute, but do self-reflection reps.
>>4346970I hope you enjoy your little ship anon
>>4346971
>>4346972Suck a dick loser
>>4346961Also Miyabi showing she's done it often before and how much she cares about Zhu's feelings. Its very cute, much better than I thought when they started this ship in 1.1.
>>4346977You're starting to sound like those brain dead people on twitter
>>4346972Imagine calling Lumine x Amber bad bit liking Zhu Yuan x Miyabi
>>4346977>much better than I thought when they started this ship in 1.1.I was hoping a lot for Qing/Zhu, but this is a decent consolation price.
>>4346980Cute
>>4346961"Thank you for looking after my daughter" indeed.
>>4346970You can ship anything if you believe hard enough really.
>>4346981She's so handsome. No wonder everyone wants a piece of her.
>>4346882Wild how this became the only consistent ship in the game, after Bellen was left in a ditch after 1.0.
>>4346994>after Bellen was left in a ditch after 1.0.I miss Bellen so much.
>>4346995
They were pretty nice this patch too. Astra kept bringing up Evelyn as someone she always wants by her side.Cautiously optimistic for their patch.
>>4346994What are you even talking about? How is that even a fair comparison? This ship will suffer the same fate and it's far from what I call consistent when both have been shipped with multiple other people until now. People thought Yanagi would be Miyabi's main ship for awhile
>>4347004>People thought Yanagi would be Miyabi's main ship for awhileNot really. There was never anything in the game supporting this, just people shipping them because they're in the same faction.Miyabi was never shipped with anyone else in-game than Zhu. Zhu kinda sorta had a bit with Qingyi, but only on Qingyi's end.
>>4346995It's still Ellen's most popular ship. Unfortunately Yaoi has dominated ZZZ just like the other games
>>4347004>>4347007Yanagi and Miyabi is hot, but its almost a crackship with how little it has. Not that there is anything wrong with crackships.
>>4347007Didn't she just come out? That's like saying Citlali hasn't been shipped with anyone other than the Traveler. Not that hard to do when they are still a relatively new character in a relatively new game
>>4347008>It's still Ellen's most popular ship.Unless you count Ruby, its Ellen's only ship alas
>>4347010>Didn't she just come out?Who? Yanagi? She's been out for a while. And Miyabi has been in the game and been shipped since launch.
>>4347009Isn't every ship somewhat a crackship, since these aren't romance games and no pairing is canon? Every ship is basically fans making their interactions romantic when it isn't.
>>4347014Miyabi. Yeah she's been around since launch but in the background. She's barely been an actual character until now. Give it a few months with more characters and you'll be saying the same thing about them that's been said about Bellen. That's how gacha games work.
>>4347013>what could have been>>4347016Mihoyo aren't some ignorant boomer devs. When they make characters interact a lot and show intimate knowledge of eachother etc. They know what they are doing, so certain ships certainly get more catered to than others. None of them will be 'canon' for however little thats worth. But its silly pretending they're all made equal.
>>4347018>Miyabi. Yeah she's been around since launch but in the background.And yet, she already had more shipping fuel with Zhu in that time than anyone else. Thats the point of consistency, she kept showing up in connection to Zhu.>and you'll be saying the same thing about them that's been said about BellenThat its gonna be dead? Yeah probably, no idea what point you're trying to make with that. Don't ship anything?`Wrong board for that.
>>4347019This is being delusional. This is a gacha game and on top of that a Chinese game. They will never make any ship canon and will never imply any ship to be canon because of waifufags. If you think otherwise your crazy. HI3 is the only game where they really scaled the line
>>4347018You literally just posted Amber and Lumine. I have no idea why you get so assmad over someone liking a ship.
>>4347020You have a terrible understanding of the word consistency don't you?
>>4347020The point is you're stupid
>>4347021>They will never make any ship canonThats what I said, learn to read perhaps? But what are you actually saying beyond vague seething? If you think its all so pointless, why are you here?
>>4347021>and on top of that a Chinese gameGenuinly I have more trust in the chinese to cater to my yuri ships than nips. They have a much better track record.
>>4347022I like how you spin shit in your favor. I'm just saying your post that Bellen is dead is stupid since pairings come and go every now and then. Just because it's not always around doesn't make one ship dead. And just because a character is paired with 1 person doesn't make another ship consistent. Sorry for trying to help you with your stupidity
>>4347025Retard when did I say you can't ship?
>>4347021Then fuck off and stop pestering us with your dumbass>noooooo stooop enjoying thingsPosts. Annoying bitch.
>>4347030Shut the fuck up loser.
>>4347030Grow up
>>4347027>just because a ship gets no new material doesn't mean its dead>just because someone is consistently only paired up in the story and their relationship is explored doesn't mean its consistentDo you even still think about what you post?I love Bellen, but in-game its dead as fuck. Because Ellen will never show up again. I find that tragic, but I won't seethe about it mindlessly at people who's ship luckily isn't dead as fuck yet.
>>4347030I get the strong impression its the same mentally ill basket case that seethed for hours over someone liking Zhu's ass. Same MO of randomly seething at every post about the topic for hourswhile making no actual point.
>>4347034/u/ is a small board, you can bet if you see some schizo once you will see them again.
>>4347033>Because Ellen will never show up againI didn't know you worked on the game anon. Can I get some free pulls please
>>4347034People are allowed to be upset. That's like saying every hetfag is the same person
>>4347036You saw how old characters got treated this patch with barely a voiceline per faction. Its over.
>>4347040Where's my free rolls dev
>>4347038I still don't know what its upset about. Especially to this extent.
>>4347034We get it you're a gooner. Jesus Christ
>>4347041You got them in the mail at the start of 1.4. What do you mean?
>>4347042>only posts MC ships>cries their head off over every non-MC shipWaifufag. Really that simple.
>>4347042I mean it's not like 4chan is a place of love and kindness. If you think that you haven't been around long.
>>4347046How is being a waifufag in a gacha game and insult. Retard you're rolling for hot women. Sometimes spending money. We're all waifufags idiot
>>4347048People who post this are always gigantic newfags. Being on 4chan doesn't create an obligation to be randomly mad and spam at people for no reason.
>>4347049>we're all waifufagsNah, I only pull to pair up girls with eachother
>>4347049And so it reveals itself.
>>4347036>>4347033no, it's good because Hoyo can't ruin them now
>>4347049This isn't /vg/, fuck off. And I don't even mind MC shipping or (real) waifufahs, but it has no place on /u/ and you fake waifufags are the worst subhuman garbage on the website.
>>4347046I hate the term 'waifufag' as an insult. In an anime series it can make sense but for a gacha game it doesn't really work. These games are designed so the characters can be our waifus and husbandos. Do you really think story and meta is what sells characters?
>>4347059>I hate the term 'waifufag' as an insult.Its not an insult, its a statement of fact.>These games are designed so the characters can be our waifus and husbandos.maybe for you, but on /u/ we play them for the intercharacter relationships. You wouldn't get it.
>>4347053>>4347055>>4347057These posts reek of delusion and stupidity
>>4347062This is a /u/ board for a gacha game. Even if you are on this board in real life you still follow the waifu practices. Roll for hot woman because you eant hot woman.
>>4347065They're too far gone to understand that
>>4347059>These games are designed so the characters can be our waifus and husbandosEveryone chooses for themselves why they play a game and facts have proven that meta actually sells characters way more than "waifu" factor, so you're even wrong about that.Feel free to play the game for that, but then don't come to /u/ and then cry about people here having different priorities.
>>4347065>This is a /u/ board for a gacha gameLurk for a million more years retard. And also > you still follow the waifu practicesNo. Why would I? Hell, many people here probably don't even play the game.
>>4347068If a character was fat and old yet the strongest character in the game they'd sell like shit and you know it
>>4347065You're completly delusional /v/ermin. Fuck off back to your ilk.
>>4347069Oh fuck off. Sorry I hurt your fragile little feelings
>>4347070No one would ship them either. Finding a character atteactive isn't "waifuing" them.
Maybe I was too harsh on the anon telling MC-shippers to rope themselves.
>>4347071>>4347073Dumb bitches right here
>>4347074Anon please don't kill yourself. You have a lot to live for.
>>4347074If you wanna hang yourself i can lend you the rope
>>4347065>>4347065There are other boards for that, since you clearly don't like yuri and are just some troon pretending to be a woman in a video game.
>>4347079Anon are you ok in the head? Where did anyone say they don't like yuri? You're having an argument that doesn't exist
>>4347081>i only roll because I want to fuck the hot women>i totally love yuri though guyzKill yourself.
>>4347081You keep showing and saying it.
I wish Bellecole was more popular, you know, first girl rule and all that
>>4347074>>4347079>>4347081This is how mentally stable people talk. Yep
>>4347083>>4347084My god why are so many delusional freaks on this board nowadays
>>4347083You must be ugly irl
>>4347088Well you haven't left yet, that would be one less.
>>4347085This, except AnbyCole.
>>4347083>liking hot women and liking yuri can't both existI feel sad for you. Life must be so boring
>>4347090School failed you anon
>>4347059This is actually delusional talk because a.) what other people do has nothing to do with what we do on /u/, b.) there are lots of reasons to play gacha games and what you enjoy about them, c.) many don't play the game and just enjoy the fanart so that doesn't even make any sense.You just completly lost the plot.
>>4347097This makes no sense. Obviously I'm not talking about those that don't play the game. Nice try attempting to twist my words to fit your narrative
>>4347094You made it very clear you consider only the former your reason for engaging with it, so this disingenious babbling gets you nowhere.No one here likes DEI goblins, that doesn't mean we're waifufags let alone that we have so little sense to make waifufagging our topic of choice on /u/ of all places.
>>4347100>Obviously I'm not talking about those that don't play the game.Then you are making no sense and have no argument, because we're talking about the focus of discussion on this board.
>>4347097>>4347101Take these brain dead posts back to twitter where they can be laughed at
>>4347102What? Are you legit stupid?
>>4347103>says the person having a meltdown over people wanting to discuss yuri on the yuri boardAnyway, I babysitted your retard ass long enough.
>>4347094Genuinly curious why you are here instead of /vg/ where your obsession with self-inserting gets catered to. It would at least make their obsession with calling everyone a tranny more accurate.
>>4347107I love reading posts like this because of how childish they read. "I'm done talking to you". Bitch you know you're gonna cry and respond to this post
>>4347110I'm genuinely curious how bad your reading abilities are if that's what you got out of anything I said. Stop making shit up anon
HertaMei. Consider it.
>>4347115I've been considering it since they baited me with that Light Cone. They better fucking deliver something in 2.0
>>4347110When losing a discussion it's best not to put words in other people's mouth anon
>>4347115One of those pairings where I genuinly can't tell who's top.
>>4347115Also a amusingly consistent ship, all things considered. Getting Herta flustered is no small feat.
>>4347120Its Ruan Mei. Herta is a brat and brats are always bottoms unless they are lolis.
I wonder if well get new elements after all 7 nations are done
I don't recall seeing Skirk have a vision. I could be wrong. Hopefully she is done better than Jingliu
>>4347127Considering they've done it in HSR and ZZZ now, I bet we'll get them even before that.
>>4347125Is this why she made the dolls?
>>4347129Maybe in Khaenri'ah? It does feel like as we go on. Hoyo is trying new things with each game and bringing it over to the others.
>>4347133I dropped Genshin a while ago, but I suspect its gonna be either with Skirk and co. or the Hexenzirkel.
>>4346960Same. Though it might be because I had high expectations for her and she wasn't like what I was expecting at all. Also I'm not a huge fan of her JP VA and Furina kinda blew everything out of the water, so it makes many characters who came after her look meh.>>4347021Doesn't mean Yelan x Raiden makes as much sense as Lumine x Ayaka or Beigguang>>4347026I trust China way more than USA and the West. At least when hoyo wants to make yuri pandering, they seem to stick to it and not add random men and bisluttery. Also no surprise hons and pronouns>>4347059Meta literally does
>>4347146Furina and Mavuika do separate things. I think you misunderstood me. I don't mean gameplay wise. I mean out of all the female archons he's just lacking something to me
>>4347156She's*
>>4347129HSR already had a list of Paths well stabilished and described in detail in the lore, which also have already been featured in other game-plays. And they won't add anything new to the Types (Ice, Quantum, Imaginary, Fire, etc). Meanwhile in Genshin we are consistently told there are only 7 elements. It would be easier for them to add a new weapon type.
>>4347156I'm not talking about gameplay at all. I love Furina because of her role in the story, personality and her charisma. To me, Mavuika is not interesting
>>4347163Me again. By "expectations" of Mavuika I mean her lore, personality and stuff, not her kit. I don't give a fuck if her kit sucks, I'll still roll.But for a nation of war I just expected someone really interesting and a genius in warfare or something. Maybe a hot-headed woman who loves fighting and wrestling. But Ei feels more fitting for the role than her. I like Mavuika's bike, but it's also not what I think when I hear "war".
>>4347160While they did have Paths before, adding a new one is still the most similar thing to adding a new element in Genshin. Lore-wise and gameplay-wise. That being said, the reason they have 7 elements is also just because thats the set they had to work with in Teyvat. Since we are increasingly dealing with stuff coming from 'beyond' Teyvat, I think thats where the new element will come in. A new weapon-type would be nice, but I don't see it because of the issues with weapons it creates.
>>4347163Ah my bad. I thought when you said Furina blew people anywa after her you meant because of how good of a support she is. Yeah Mavuika is just missing something. She feels too perfect. She just goes in and solved all the issues without much difficulty. It's ironic that they spent time making the archon more human, yet the one archon that was human is the one that feels the least like an actual character. Hopefully the next patch can make me like her.
>>4347170To go back to FGO I wish she was more like Quetzalcoatl. Fun loving one minute and ready to kill you or suplex you the next. I agree it would've been awesome if she was a battle obsessed god, but it feels like since Ei Hoyo has been scared to make the archons an antagonist in any way
>suddenly 100+ replies>it's an argumentAs per /u/'s tradition
>>4347013>RubyIt's such a cute ship in concept, but Ruby's an npc so no one cares about her
>>4347013>Ellen's only ship alasI've seen some Ellen/Corin in the wild
Santa please add a skip option to Star Rail so people can get passed all the boring talking. Also please give us more Starch. Thank you
>>4347190Seriously. I'd like to catch up in the hopes that at least the start of the new planet will be worth playing like usual, but the plot of 2.X second half makes me want to KYS having to sit through that boring bullshit.
>>4347190>Also please give us more StarchThe pokemon event is getting a sequel, so it'll probably give us some starch crumbs
>>4347192It feels like it gets more and more rambling as time goes on. Which sucks because I was looking forward to Feixiao and Tingyun. Unfortunately I can't deal with all the boring talking. Seriously why did we waste time on Welt and Sunday instead of on Stelle, March, and Tingyun reuniting. Star Rail's story feels like they took the first 3 pages of each person's script ideas and instead of forming one complete script just made the story all their rough ideas. We didn't need Sunday here and the story would've flowed better and been shorter if it was just March, Stelle, and Yukong meeting Tingyun again. I love the game and characters but hate the slow plot progression
>>4347196I've been craving starch ever since my local McDonald's closed
>>4347197>love the game and characters but hate the slow plot progressionI can't even say that the plot is progressing slowly since Stelle barely have a goal.
>>4346960I'll admit that I was expecting a bloodthristy and aggressive Aztec themed warrior goddess. And not a biker babe with Maori name (the Maori are pretty hardcore in their own right, if only they actually made her Maori themed). Also, I'm not vibing with the bike at all. But maybe part 2 of her story quest may clutch it and give Mavuika a lady of her own.
>>4347170>>4347181Things is, we are still dealing with the consequences of the clusterfuck that was Inazuma AQ and how badly the fumbled Ei's writing. There's a good reason she's so divisive even 3 years down the line. Furina is the opposite, the best written female character since Jeht.
Surprised theres not been any Nicole Miyabi posting with the whole them having a history thing and Nicole calling her cute when she was younger
>>4347216Navia in my honest opinion is better written than Furina. I like Furina, but the reveal didn't really do much for me. Furina is best as that adorable girl failure character. The reveal and Fontaine as a whole was handled kinda poorly.
>>4347217It sounded like a cute idea, with the implication of them having met multiple times. But somewhat overshadowed by everything else.
>>4347219Clorinde grew on me in her SQ, since the main story barely did anything with her.
>>4347190Speaking of skippable dialogue what's everyone's opinion of it? Should games have it or should games have a good enough story where you don't want to skip it? Are we impatient or does games need to step up their writing?
>>4347224>Should games have it or should games have a good enough story where you don't want to skipBoth. I still believe that HI3 has by far the best story in all of the hoyo games, despite the low point, and it still have a skip button, because not having it is retarded.
>>4347062I'm pretty sure yurisisters just wants to ship the characters unlike the creepy waifufags
>>4347224Even if the button doesn't exist, people will still skip it, just tap while doing something else, turn the auto on, etc. They absord as much story as they would if they pressed a skip button.So I say they should add it. Plus sometimes we are playing, but short on time and just want to speedrun everything, then watch the story with calm on youtube later
>>4347238Let's move on from that. We don't want to start more fighting. >>4347225That makes sense. It's like the best of both. Have a great story to keep people engaged but if they fail and have to replay the scene or aren't interested in a particular part they have the skip option
>>4347249Star rail 2.7 made me beg for a skip button, and this is coming from someone who loves star rail's main story overall
>>4347249That's a good point. I would've questioned if there's a programming reason but Star Rail let's you skip dialogue and cutscenes if you start everything over. Not sure why it's not there by default. Thanks for the answers. I was wondering if I was being too impatient and lazy for wanting a skip button in the games. Glad I'm not the only one that wants it
Welp congrats hoyo I'm not rolling for Citlali anymore
>>4347323what else happened
>>4347329They released official art on Twitter with her cradling and Aether doll
>>4347007>>4347009yanagi freaking the fuck out blaming herself when mibs got captured was so cute
Stelle having having trash cans and playing with them on the Express is both hilarious and sad
There were some cute Evelyn/Astra bits in the chapter 5 epilogue. But with the Quality Time thing as a feature...kind hard to be optimistic. >>4347343Ah, well, never really planned to roll for her anyway.
You know, I think Miyabi is the love interest in zzz...
>>4347356>Vergil katana judgement cut expy character>Love interest of the MC>Mei, Ayaka, now MiyabiHoyo loves this formula
>>4347358Vergil is Dante's husband?
>>4347362Look up what expy means sis
>>4347363Sorry, I only knew Vergil and I thought it started on x.com
Mavuika's motorcycle looks like it'll be a pain in the ass to control. RIP mobile players that want her
>>4347355Certainly hope they don't ruin their dynamic with Quality Time fuckery! Beyond that, I hope they can it with the dialogue differences between Belle and Wise.
>>4347013The doomposting worked! Ellen is getting a Agent Story in 1.5. Now fingers crossed it focuses on her highschool and Agent double life (and Ruby).The struggle with her trying to be a normal highschool girl next to everything else was one of the best parts of her trust events. Yes I know its probably the last we'll see of her, only for her rerun. Let me have this.
>Finally find the energy to try and go through 2.7 story>Sunday POV 2 minutes in Yeah, nah, I can't do it...
>>4347343At least she also reads the Eimiko gay novel
>>4347508Looks more like 2 different novels of Ei and Yae. I'm not sure what she's reading in her idle animation
>>4347517They're in-game books. One is a reincarnation isekai parody and the other is an eimiko yuri parody. Her idle looks like a straight novel but with tight enough goggles you can pretend the dude is a sailor uranus expy.
>>4347527I'm just gonna skip Citlali. She seems like another outright het character. For me I'm more interested in some of those silhouette characters. They look like they'll be cool. I like that they are trying to stay a step ahead of leaks, since I hate leaks.
>>4347008Yaoi has dominated ZZZ ? Lol what, majority of the Fanart is het or incest shit
>>4347647All of Wise's top ships and the most popular ones are the yaoi ones.
>>4347647Nah he's right, Lycaon is really something.
>>4347546If only Dahlia was a woman and not a femboy. Barbara and Rosaria could've really used a new gf and yuri content, but no, they had to try to do Venti 2.0 apparently!
>>4347197I doubt they'll write the Amphoreus women any better, but who knows? Maybe the writers will lock the fuck in for once!
>>4347744I do gotta laugh at how they powercrept everyone else in Natlan so badly with Mavuika that Citlali being able to fly as well seems lame in comparison. Giving Mavuika all form of Natlan exploration makes no sense. It just kills the need for everyone else. Some people only rolled for Chasca because of exploration.
>>4347778Mavuika can only fly for an handful of second. You're still using chasca over her
>>4347749I'm gonna go in hesitantly optimistic. As long as they don't pull a Feixiao and make a woman's whole character revolve around a dude we should be fine. I'm just worried Sunday will be heavily involved to justify him being on the Express.
>>4347782Honestly I'm using Cloud Retainer over both
My new year resolution should be dropping Hoyo game(s)But there so much new stuff coming that I wanna at least check out and losing out on rolls to take breaks until they come out feels really bad…..
