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Previous >>4322305

Thread for yuri discussion of:
>Genshin Impact
>Honkai Impact 3rd
>Honkai Star Rail
>Guns GirlZ
>Zenless Zone Zero

and other applicable miHoYo/Hoyoverse games
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>>4333761
so those characters are not related here?
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>>4333783
Zoom in.

Lesbian playing ZZZ gets interrupted
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>>4333786
>Zoom in.
>zooms in
Male in image!
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>>4333775
These two are so cute
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HSR hasn't had a good pairing since Seele and Bronya in Belobog. There, I said it.
Let's see if Amphoreus can turn things around.
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>>4333961
Controversial opinion, but I don't particularly think that HSR bronseele is particularly well done once you remove all the implied understanding from their HI3 counterpart.
It's so fucking shallow compared to their other versions
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Zhu Yuan's harem.
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>>4333970
Everything in hsr is shallow, even the biggest ship, Firefly, is extremely shallow.
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>>4333972
Firefly is 3 different characters that aren't overlapping properly. The trauma hardened warborn loner soldier, the enigmatic hired killer with a theatrical flair from your team rocket tier rival gang, and the friendly sociable girl who gets easily attached to strangers. It's impossible to see glimmers of her other sides apart from the few times the writers remember to beat you over the head with it. Like it should have been reasonable to suspect she and Sam were the same person if she were more coherent. And Sam should waste less time being an over-the-top chuuni if she's a cog custom built for a war machine.

But you could explore these things, show how she's been affected and grown and unraveled new sides of herself over the course of the story with her growing connection to Stelle. Except she's just one of an endless carousel of new gacha products that can't afford her that much spotlight, so let's have a patch dedicated to Aventurine instead. Firefly has the makings of a strong dynamic character, fanfic can do wonders for her, and Penacony desperately wanted to pivot around her, but too many of her scenes were restricted to only 1/3rd of Firefly's personality in the misguided desire to preserve a question hardly anyone cared to ask in a story arc that was bloated after someone dumped the whole writers' room brainstorm box on the table. Jarilo VI remains HSR's high point not because it was deep, but because it was simple. Penacony should have remained strictly half Firefly and half Sunday - your antihero turned companion and antagonist. And the right one should have gone on to join the crew.
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>>4333761
>not Hoyo characters
>male on the ipad screen
....did you really make this thread early just for this?
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Miyabi and Belle seems to be friends.
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>>4333761
i love these dorks
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>>4333980
No wonder most choose the cute and friendly lesbo route with Firefly. Can't be accused of mischaracterization if the actual writers themselves can't stick the landing!
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Y'know, I wish we got to know more about Robin that be stuck with a dude based on the one racial group that everybody (especially in the Balkans) hates.
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>>4333961
Star Rail's depiction of their relationship was pretty bad imo. I found HSR Seele annoying
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>>4334549
It was fine.
It didnt get all the time it needed like many aspects of the Belobog plotlines but the idea was there. They went through rivalry, understanding, and finally bonding.
What other HSR "pairing" has anything even resembling a development of some kind?

HSR stories post Belobog all feel incredibly amateurish. Like the writers have a cool idea of a setup and the finale, but are absolutely dogshit at filling in the blanks inbetween.
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>>4333980
Speaking of the Stellaron Hunters does anyone else hate the fact that Stelle's backstory and the reason why she has a stellaron in her is ignored? I know people hated the Luofu but at least it explored who Stelle is and gave us some insight on her character. Genshin and HSR have this bad habit of spending too much time on the new region/planet and spending too little time building up their MCs. For example in Genshin after Sumeru we only get advances in the main plot in limited events. Fontaine and Natlan feel like filler because they don't advance Lumine's story. Compare them to Sumeru where Lumine not only wants to help Nahida, but also has a reason to help her. Nahida being the only one that can connect with Irminsul means helping her will allow Lumine to gather info on her brother. Natlan is about battling the abyss, which Aether has deep ties with. Why is this not a main part of the story? Why isn't Lumine questioning if Aether has any part of what's happening in Natlan. It just makes Natlan feel like an afterthought. Fontaine and Natlan are long filler arcs we have to get through in order to play the events that give us the real content we've been waiting for.
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>>4334565
Stelle might have it even worse. She has gotten 0 development since Luofu. All we know of her is that she used to be with Kafka. Since then Stelle has gotten nothing. All the development goes to the new gacha character each patch. It's fine to develop them to get people to roll, but they aren't the MC. They aren't the center character of the story. When fighting Sunday I felt nothing because there was nothing between them. No hatred, no empathy, nothing. This is because they didn't even know each other. Ever since Penacony Stelle has mattered less and less to the story to the point she might as well not be there in them. Even in events she's only there because we play as her. Stelle mattered more in Luka's event than she did in all of Penacony. I don't get why they didn't explore who Stelle was more. Maybe have her and Firefly bond over being non human beings created to serve a purpose. Their story could've been them trying to become something more than beings in Elio's scripts. This could've made their relationship have deeper meaning and contrasted with Sunday's motivation much better. Stelle and Firefly ultimately choosing free will would've made the themes in Penacony mean more. Speaking of why didn't they just make Sunday a Stellaron Hunter? They could've had his beliefs tied to the script Elio gave him, which lead to motivate his Order. Once things go against the script with Stelle this could've lead to his defeat.
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>>4333873
Furina fans be like yooo she's so tiny and vulnerable that's so cute
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>>4334564
A major issue is they don't have a reason for their ideas to happen. The Astral Express have no real goals, which really hurts how a writer handles a story. It's hard for them to come up with new ideas when the plot for their characters is "and then the Express helped because they're nice people".
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>>4334565
I mean i dislike Hsr story but it handled the mc backstory much better then something like genshin. Since we got mind controled and set up at the start as we atleast interact with steallron hunters pretty regulary so and get some glimpses at ouer past tho i get it its annoying.
As for genshin its just bad slow burn writing because the dude overseeing the project is the worst one in the whole mihoyo so there is no standart for writting or quality control because the dude legit is greedy af so he dosnt care about the rest.
Idk all about that Sumeru when it was just about the wandere and nahida becoming besties as we again bearly do anything.
We will also almost do nothing in Natlan.
Because writers are allergic to proper victories and competant mcs.
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>>4334571
How? I completely disagree. Stelle has not developed at all over the course of the game.
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>>4334564
Im just not a fan of "lol underworld good upside down'
"lol princess character good only because she lowerd herself to ouer standart and gave away prized possesion" its soo cheap and stupid as if it made her less of a person if she gave just money instead important item.
"princess character is good because she is from the same place as the peasants" lol
But atleast we gotta something of Seele x Bronya even if the characters are butched they atleast shipped it when they could have leand into ship with the player wich would be horrible
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>>4334571
I also don't get what you mean by getting regular glimpses of our past because we definitely don't.
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>>4334570
No they usualy have a reason to help either to get the rails moving , capture the stellaron (wich is their thing because its tied to you and the rail) or reaseraching about their past members. I hate Hsr but there is a plotline.
The thing is they start milion plot lines and now they never gonna have a time to finish them
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>>4334576
There's arcs with a plot. You're confusing what I'm saying. I'm saying there's no overarching plot in Star Rail with each patch, which makes each patch fill like filler.
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>>4334577
Dont make me defend star rail i hate it.
The plot is to find where and how Akivili died hence the travel allong the rail while also dealing with any stellaron on the way as it can block ouer progress
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>>4334576
Everything you listed the crew was doing before Stelle joined. The game doesn't focus on what's Stelle's main goal in Star Rail.

>>4334579
Again you're not listing what motivates Stelle. Why does she want to do this? What does she gain from doing it? Is she only doing it because the Express is? This is what I mean. Stelle has no personal goal that makes us the players cheer for her. When she's battling enemies they just feel so lifeless because there's no goal you want Stelle to archive from overcoming this enemy
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>>4334579
Here's an example, multiple characters are track the dragon balls in Dragon Ball, but each character has their own personal goals and desires that motivate them to do so. This is something Stelle lacks. This is my main complaint about how the writers handle Stelle as a character.
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One of the things I want the most from HSR is Kafka and Stelle's past and future. But hoyo gatekeeps the hell out of it
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>>4334198
A pleasant surprise after all the songlema content
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>>4334585
(You) are there to have fun adventuring with friends. Why does it need to be more complicated than that? The whole thing is purposefully real life filler that you can start and drop whenever you feel like it. I can enjoy it for what it is.
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>>4334819
I would like it if it was indeed a low stake fun filled adventure, but it's not. Each arc is about planetary catastrophe and outside of a few filler part here and there, the story takes itself very seriously.
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>>4334821
>Each arc is about planetary catastrophe
The very first arc tells you that's just business as usual for the express and nothing to get so worked up about.
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>>4334823
Also, it wouldn't be a fun adventure if the stakes weren't absurdly high. That's kind of what adventures are all about.
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>>4334823
And Stelle fucking die and has to get a deus ex machina for her ressurection. Without the will of the guardian, which nobody ever accounted for, Stelle would have died on this "business as usual nothing to get worked up about" trip.
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>>4334826
Yeah. And? Standard fare for world-saving adventures. Fifteen minutes later, nobody even remembers it anymore. The devs have more genre-awareness than you do.
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>>4334827
World saving adventure and fun filled adventure are two different genres and people don't just die and get ressurected all the time in fun filled adventure. Are you just pretending to be retarded on purpose?
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Citlali and Yae should meet up. It'd do wonders for the latter to meet a character who ain't afraid to push back if pushed first!
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>>4335081
Yae is literally never leaving Inazuma and will at best get like 12 lines per Itto event. Also Genshin EoS soon.
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>miyabi/burnice and lucy
Oh neat, I can use Miyabi against fire weakers
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>>4335085
Yae went to Sumeru and dommed Layla.
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>>4335093
I hope she's an Oni or at least a claymore mother because Inazuma is the one nation missing that type of woman.
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>>4334585
I dont think the central plot or lack off is really the issue here.

The idea of a traveling MC helping out new places during her adventure is a very common one and dates back centuries. The problem with modern Hoyo writing is there just arent enough efforts/time put into properly building up the story. They have a cool premise in mind and a BIG MOMENT they want to show and then everything inbetween is shit.

Let's take a look at a recent ZZZ example. When Caesar makes up her mind to sacrifice herself, she remarks that even though the Sons of Calydon can make a living elsewhere like Lucy suggested, the other ordinary folks cant just uproot their lives. That's great, that's a real emotional hook to show her determination, combined with the sound track and the great animation on Lucy and even Lighter, it really sells you that moment......but when you really step back and think about it, who the fuck is she even referring to? The people of Blazewood? Did we really spend enough time with the town and its characters to give a shit? The answer is not really. Of course you can guess what she's referring to, but proper storytelling would make sure that you the audience cares about the things that the character claims she also cares about.

And this lack of buildup problem permeates almost all aspects of Hoyo storytelling, which I can only guess is at least partly due to them being gachas
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Anyone else often scroll past this thread because nothing pops out in the OP image? Even with sort by, now I got to use CTRL-F to find this
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wtf the new story quest for natlan was short as hell? that was it??
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>>4335145
At the end of the day, these are games written by soulless bugmen that don't really comprehend human emotional experiences. They copy western tales of heroics with their tropes, but at the same time have no clue what all the fuss is supposed to be about.

It shows everywhere, like in Ruan Mei spamming new lifeforms around the galaxy, like a single mother giving birth to retarded babies that can have no future and then dumping them on strangers when they fail to catch her interest, and this is supposed to be just a quirky genius thing, and not the vilest atrocity that should be stopped at all costs.

Either you accept these games for the absurd acid trip they are, and enjoy the gameplay and your favorite characters, or else find better use for your time.
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Lighter is pure fujobait, his agent story even has him interacting with all the pretty boys including Wise at the same time
When the fuck are we getting our turn?
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>>4335935
Sis, your burnice story ?
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>>4335935
He went from A->S, so I'm not surprised with whatever they're doing
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>>4335935
>Wise
Wait, you're still controlling Belle in that event?
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>>4335224
It's basically an Interlude in all but name to set up the finale in 5.3. Let's see if they can stick the landing, maybe the yuri is at the finish line.
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this new trailer made me dislike sunday even more.
I haven't been following the leaks but I hope he isn't some Ruan Mei irreplaceable analogue for the new combat mechanics and we will get someone else
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I like the double 'Granny' agenda they're pushing. Citlali is so obvious even her grandson is practically begging Lumine to join the family.
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>>4336328
A small drop in this crippling yuri drought.
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>>4336643
Let's see if 5.3 can clutch it for Natlan. LR is gonna be maxing out on the Liyue lesbos as usual.
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<3 love these stupid lesbians
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>another Grace x Zhu Yuan 3D
So random wtf
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>>4337155
I just really want Mavuika to have a close relationship with somebody. The few lines between her and Xilonen about each other are really not enough.
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>>4337443
I'm not sure anymore. It looks more and more like Genshin just throws. Both story and otherwise.

I'd like to make a team with Citlali, Mavuika, Xilonen and Mualani. But the way it looks like Mavuika doesn't work well with Mualani, and Citlali doesn't work well with anyone...

Oh well. Sometimes Hoyo has just retarded ideas like making a second main dps pyro after just releasing one half a year ago and ... whatever the heck Citlali is supposed to be. Considering how the relationship with Mualani and Kachina is dead as fuck, I expect nothing going forward there either. (I'd have been fine with a sisters angle)
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>>4337504
I love how zhuyuan and jane never actually interacted on screen but their switch voicelines makes them shippable.
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>>4336328
isnt it the same for both traveler's though?
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>>4337500
You're overthinking about the team comp. It doesnt have to be optimal to do most content in this game

What I'm finding Mavuika lacking is the lack of...chemistry? Dynamic? Anything. ArleFuri for example, yeah not exactly a ship with the most canon support, but there is a dynamic that people latched onto.
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Lesbians find hotter older women? Because it's always the tall females the ones that yuri fandom ship together even if they don't have chemistry at all
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>>4337824
>yuri fandom
*western ‘yuri fandom’
Actual yurifags ship everything as long as the chemistry is there
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>>4337824
>Tall females ship together
As in the same height? That's boring.
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>>4337846
Height gap is a crap tag
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>>4337856
Imagine having such shit taste
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>citlali is more into aether than lumine judging by her expressions when she gets flustered
We need playable Jeht now more than ever
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>>4337894
Yes yes yes!
I've been shipping them ever since Ruan Mei's interlude quest
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Looks like Aglaea doesn't need Sunday since she's speedy asf like Firefly, she even scales with speed.
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>>4337960
I’d have agreed but her energy situation looks terrible without him around.
I’m not looking forward to Castorice either with her relic set needing her and her summon to be slow, which means she’ll need an adv fwd, of which only Sunday will work for the summon.
I’ll wait for Tribbie and Cypher’s kits but I have 0 hope left for pulling in Amphoreus.
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>>4337972
Easy with the doomposting nee-san, this isn't her final form. They'll surely do something about it, after all giving a character absurd ult cost without anything on her kit that helps her get energy is just stupid.
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>>4337909
I have seen and it looks the same for both
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>>4337982
Dialog is the same

Facial expressions are different
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>I came across an exceptional desert dancer! We didn't know each other's names, nor did we exchange any words, yet somehow, we found ourselves dancing in perfect harmony amidst the golden sands. Her movements radiated strength and conviction, and together we spun, waved, and stretched..
Happy for Nilou and her eremite birthday sex
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>>4337443
All people ever wanted outta Natlan was aggressive and bloodthristy lesbians. Kill men, kiss women should've been Mavuika in a nutshell.
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>>4337985
No, I've compared, I'm still seeing the same. Stop lying
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>>4338018
The difference so small that I don't even know why they bothered but it's there. It almost looks like they just forgot to apply the expression in the Lumine version somehow.
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>>4338022
Knowing game devs its either
>spaghetti code that female chat somehow effect the code of others
>a rouge dev making it diffrent for his waifu
Most likely case is that its just hoyo being hoyo and trying to pander to male players with this because they knew it would gain traction fromn drama baiters
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>>4338041
Wasn't there a bug where Lumine's model was replaced by Aether's in Shenhe's interlude quest? I'd say spaghetti code is the most likely
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Despite the Herta x RM tease.....Algae's gameplay is looking really gorgeous, not to mention novel

I'm really REALLY hoping she has a ship
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ZhuYuan will be in the new chapter?
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>>4338084
Is whatever in the blade's reflection suppose to be something we already know or is it meant to be a hint to something else
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>>4338084
Yes.
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whats with some author's arlecchino fics referring to her with male pronouns? since when was that a thing??
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>>4338106
maybe the author's ESL
or a very misguided attempt to play off of her Father title, who knows
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>>4338090
I assume it's the new weekly boss material for her maybe? Usually big updates introduce lots of new things, but I feel like 1.4 will also be an especially huge update. The Proxies/Belle is also in this promo image.

I wonder if this is when reruns finally start and if they do, if it's going to be Ellen in the first half and then Zhu Yuan or just Ellen for the entirety of it.
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>>4337978
I can say with certainty that she’ll remain like this as Sunday shill.
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>>4338106
Twitter thinks Arlecchino uses male pronouns and is non-binary or trans because she wears pants.
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>>4338106
>>4338234
>Twitter thinks Arlecchino uses male pronouns and is non-binary or trans because she wears pants.
It's probably more because of how she has the orphans refer to her as "Father."
still retarded though
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>>4337986
Long have we demanded another Eremite character! Hoyo, you should give Nilou her desert dancer gf right now!
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>>4338077
No way a gal like Aglaea isn't pulling ladies. But we must wait for the other Amphoreus women to come out first.
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>>4338406
As a seamstress, she's gotta have some female clients she has dialog/relationship with.

Staying hopeful but keeping expectations low.
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>>4338252
They often call Furina transmac/non-binary too
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>>4338106
>>4338425
They call everyone trans because that's trendy among fandom autists right now and it's naturally going to be worse with any character that deviates slightly from a generic ideal of femininity.
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>>4338432
They really do be hating on GNC women

Sad!
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I think we're off to a good start on 3.0
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>>4338425
since when??? that just sounds stupid
i feel like i'm missing out by not playing hsr since most of you talk about it here
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>>4338406
>>4338413
Even if she does Star Rail is so bad at writing ships it wouldn't matter. 90% of Star Rail ships are written like shit. It actually made me not like Bronya x Seele because how poorly they wrote the characters.
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>>4338582
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zero tingyun x yukong in this patch?
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Considering the lack of posting in this thread about the new HSR patch, I guess it doesn't have anything interesting.
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>>4339125
>>4339166
I just haven't had the time to play it yet personally
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>>4339166
The only interesting thing is that you don't really need Sunday as much as you need Robin.
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>>4339166
Only thing of note is realizing some of the characters aren't voiced.
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>>4339293
That’s only if you use the inferior dub
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>>4339166
I haven't had time to play everything yet, but so far I loved all the Tingyun scenes. Not sure if I should ship her with Ruan Mei or Yukong
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>>4339166
Not much,but still got some hint.
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>>4339500
the fanart didn’t blow up like it did when Herta and Ruan Mei’s Light Cones were revealed
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Miyabi and Piper/Soukaku. Nice

No sign of reruns. Bummer

1.4 lasts 5 weeks instead of 6 now. Huh
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>>4339551
If they're not going to add any new Ether chars then rerun Zhu Yuan ffs
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Zhu and Miyabi were roommates
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>>4339596
Astra Yao is an upcoming support character. Nothing confirmed, but folks are saying Ether or Ice
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>>4339506
Am I the only one that hates the Tingyun stuff? The whole part felt like a cheap justification of why Hoyo made a 5 star Tingyun. It was so random and out of nowhere.
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>>4339414
>using dub
That's so stupid. Everyone knows that the Chinese voices are far superior
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>>4339640
Chinese sounds ugly and I don’t understand it. There’s no reason for me to use it over JP.
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>>4339645
>litteral you problems
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>>4339611
>Support Ether
Nicole already exists
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>>4339645
You understand JP? This is such a dumb response
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>>4339655
Yes
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>>4339651
One is limited and one is not. I'm sure you're already aware of what Hoyo does with limited supports
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>>4339639
The whole narrative (and marketing) keeps acting like we had a super deep and meaningful relationship with her when we never even met her
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>>4339651
And? You can have two supports of the same element that have completely different kits and do completely different things.
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>>4339678
I think the writers forgot how that story ended. We never got to know the real Tingyun. And on top of that the lack of real reaction to Stelle and March meeting her again in Penacony just makes her return fall flat. No shock to seeing her again, no questioning what happened, no nothing. All we got was the lazy clone gag and them forcing Sunday into her story. I can't tell what is worse, Hoyo believing we were closer to Tingyun than we were or Hoyo acting like Aventurine and Boothill are Stelle's friends when they aren't at the end of Penacony. Even Acheron's farewell to Stelle fell flat because they barely knew each other.
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>>4339692
To be fair Phantylia was pretty good at impersonating Tingyn that it was almost like meeting the real one. But they still overplay it a bit. That aside, I loved her story, power and goals. And the scene with Yukong was very beautiful too, the only mistake is them not hugging
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>>4339692
HSR is full of moments like that.

The cutscene of Acheron doing her monologue and slashing the dream to get us back to fight Sunday again was so cool..........except the more you think about it the more meaningless it becomes because she was never that close to us and her vow to us made no sense.
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>>4339551
Now that I actually skimmed through the special program there's so much more new shit.

Simulated Universe mode, Arknights-like event, Boss rush, new Hollow Zero, upgraded Companion Invitations, lots of QoL updates, and there's still more I didn't get to.

AND we know Lunar New Year is also big for Hoyo games.
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>>4339727
I don't get why they do that. All it does is make the players confused, since they're relationships were never as deep as the game makes them out to be. It reminds me of when Feixiao texts Stelle to hang out. I'm left thinking why would she do that to someone she barely even knows. I'm also left pondering if this is something Feixiao would do, since the game never bothered to show us much of her personality.
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>>4339771
It's because the structure of the game (and more broadly the gacha structure in general) has a constant churning of new characters to keep people pulling on banners. They rarely revisit older characters for any real length of time, so they need to cram 90% of given character's development within their debut event. Hence the nonsensical I just met you 3 hours ago but we're best friends now narrative beats.
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>>4339783
I don't think that's the issue I'm bringing up here. The issue isn't how fast they became friends with Star Rail. The issue is when did they become friends. Aventurine, Acheron, Boothill, etc. never has a chance to become Stelle's friends. Compare that with ZZZ and Genshin where you can at least see how a friendship would form. In Star Rail they rarely do that nowadays. They pulled it off really well in Belobog.
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>>4339808
Ultimately what I'm saying is Star Rail has pretty bad writing when it comes to writing new characters forming bonds with Stelle in the main stories.
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>>4339514
That scene will kill this ship in the west. It will be branded as grooming and pedo.
Yes, we already had Tingyun in Yukong's ult sprite, but since it was never touched upon, most people played dumb or thought only Tingyun knew Yukong
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>>4339846
As long as we get some oneeloli fanarts, I don't care
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>>4339847
Hardly, not even japanese artists care about lolis on these games, lolicons are mostly in BA, and its understandable.
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>>4339852
There's lolicons for ZZZ considering one of the lead artists draws a lot of lolis. Genshin and HSR not so much
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>>4339808
I genuinely liked Belobog. The pace wasnt perfect but most of the story made sense at least.
Chilling with Bronya at night and seeing her slowly change her mind about the Underground and Seele felt like something out of an actual video game

Then we got fucking amazon warehouse with Xianzhou.
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>>4339846
>It will be branded as grooming and pedo.
They tried that shit with TopaJade and were laughed out of the room. The twitter police doesn't have the power you and them think they have.
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>>4339856
Belobog was fine until that ending,
>YOU HAVE TO LIE TO YOUR PEOPLE TO SAVE YOUR ASS, THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH.
lol sure Xi pingpong.
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>>4339973
we dont know how the underbelly of New Eridu government operates, for all we know they could also be in the Sacrifice and fall of old Eridu business
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Then again, it was pretty refreshing to have a story, where the heroes save a country, only for those people to return exactly the way they were in the beginning with the same mindset, while you just shrug and fuck off.
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>>4339994
The important thing is the brewing conflict between the topside and Zaun I mean Underworld was resolved and the elevator reopened.

What does telling the truth achieve except weaken an already shaky peace?
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>>4340048
>except weaken an already shaky peace?
A completely baseless excuse that the game tries to feed you. How was the stellaron's existence the topside's fault, anyway? Telling the truth would let the people know why they had to suffer and that it's settled now. Having closure can only improve morale. The cat's gonna come out of the bag sooner or later anyway, and being caught for a two-fold lie will get a lot of people shot, normally. That's how revolutions happen.
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>>4339855
There are even lolis in ZZZ?
Heck, about HSR, we are just getting a new one in Amphoreus after 2 years (since release)
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>>4340083
Have you not played ZZZ?
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>>4340065
Naive and stupid. Just leave the decision making to the men and women who actually make history.
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>>4340048
I feel like the issue is if paints a villain as a martyr, which doesn't sit well with people. Ultimately Bronya ends up doing exactly what her mother did with the same excuse as her mother, but in a way that brings people together
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>>4340083
They're all teens but they don't have models like Qiqi or Bailu. I swear peope are using that word as an umbrella term nowadays
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>>4340309
>They're all teens
I swear some people are too stupid for their own good. Loli is exclusive just to children dumbass
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>>4340316
Isnt*
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>>4340309
Are you blind or just don't play the game? Or are you new to what loli means, because if you can look at Lucy and not say she's a loli you're either coping or ignorant to what lolis look like. Aoba in New Game can be viewed as a loli but she's not tiny like Bailu or Qiqi. Loli can also mean young looking, and there's a few loli bait characters in ZZZ.
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>>4339717
>Phantylia was pretty good at impersonating Tingyn
Which is kind of irrelevant since we don't spend all that much time with fake Tingyun either.
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>>4340331
Iirc one of the biggest complaints was that we didn't spend enough time with either Tingyun for the twist to have any punch to it. We never knew the real Tingyun to know if anything was off with the fake one. It reminds me of the weird decision of having just the player see Aventurine's backstory. It doesn't do anything for his character, since no one saw it people don't form a new viewpoint of him in the game itself. The only reason the characters are cool with him now is because the game assumes the players like him now.
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>>4340333
Because at the end of the day, HSR is still kind of a self insert game. A lot of Stelle action and friendliness towards some characters are made under the assumption that the players like those characters, so Stelle as an extension of those players, also like them.
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>>4340316
>>4340326
Oof, the weirdos are here
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>>4340333
That and the Dan Shu subplot got rushed in order to do the Tingyun "reveal" in the original update. It was just hella stupid
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>>4340340
So it's weird to be right? Or are you just coping with being wrong?
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>>4340316
Nooooo, my 1000 year old lolis aren't lolis anymore!
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>>4340337
I think it's more rushed/poor writing. In past planets they didn't have to do that because they actually took the time to build a relationship between Stelle and those characters. If Belobog was made today we'd probably see Seele for 2 minutes, she leaves and does her own thing, then at the end we come together to fight Cocolia. Afterwards she talks about how great it was to might us and how we're her friend now. Instead Belobog had time to develop and allowed us to get to know both the overworld and underworld residents. We spend time with Seele and the others. I feel like since Penacony these stories wrap up too quickly. Hell till this day Sparkle has yet to justify her existence in Star Rail. I feel like HI3 is doing her more justice than her own game did.
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>>4340446
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here to agree or disagree with you.
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>>4340452
Belobog also allegedly suffered re-writes too, like the illness (forgot the name) the underground had was more severe which explains why Clara's design had those giant bandadge looking things

But yeah, overall it clearly had probably more development time as the first launch zone that didnt have to be rushed out the door.
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>>4340701
Inazuma also had rewrites out the wazoo and was the major reason why it was a clusterfuck.

>>4340702
Eisara in this day and age?
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Black swan still flirty and thirsty,literally no lessons learned from Acheron.
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>>4340987
acheron got the pussy on speed dial
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>>4340326
Obviously, Lucy isn't a loli. Probably you are one of those morons saying that Megumin or Nico yazawa are also lolis.
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>>4340989
It you can't see that she is there's no helping you retard
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>>4340988
Isn't she talking about Stelle here?

>>4340989
Anon are you ok in the head? How can you say Lucy isn't a loli and use Megumin as an example? There's literally multiple jokes in the show where she's called a loli.
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>>4341101
Speaking of why is there more fanart and fanfics of Stelle and Acheron than Stelle and Black Swan? I felt like her relationship with BS had much more development. Stelle and Acheron barely talked to each other
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>>4341105
Acheron is more popular, that's it.
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>>4341039
They'll get their happy end, trust.
What a great story chapter that was. I haven't been this invested in the story in a good long while.
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>>4341356
Same. P2 really started picking up after Ch3, glad I stuck around.



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