Time for another Heaven Burns Thread, where we reuse Tanabata pics for the New Years thread.

5.2 Part 1 hit like a meteor and left us all hanging over a cliff, but it also provided ample new KareTsuka material. Waiting till February for Part 2 will be incredibly hard.

The new years event is... another Angel Beats collab. Woo. This time with significantly less yuri. Now the AB! set is full, so perhaps this will be the last one.

January will give us little to work with, but the anniv promises many things. Save up your energy and quartz for the new year!

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M!

>>4352400
It's not like there are any other characters left to deal with. The main cast got their closure. So at best an AB collab with old characters would just be a random fanservice session without a point.
Also there are too many male characters in that cast that we don't want.

>>4352411
Then just don't do it. Or do a random fanservice event without a point, it's a collab, why not. The new event was whatever for me, someone who was into AB. I can't even imagine what it's like for someone who doesn't care.

>>4352412
I think Sekine is a good character overall. It's just that you cant really give her much of an arc in a 2 hour event with 99% of her connected characters missing. Especially Irie being gone before her made this quite a bit harder.

>>4350690
Wait, which event has a secret superboss?

>>4352492
AB2. And a couple of others like Koju's, Miya's and Swimsuit 4.

My only wish for next year is more teheperinkos

My only wish for next year is more on-screen kisses.

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Finally got to this part on EN. They didn't make it less gay, thank Madokami. This was really damn important to me.

Oh and just as a reminder, the period where we have to spoiler pre chapter 5 content ended by now. But still spoiler 5.2 stuff please.

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Here it is... the moment when RukaYukki turned from just a funny ship to basically canon.

>>4352397
So has someone uploaded the new 5.2 songs to youtube yet? I'm really bad at searching for OSTs without song titles. If someone could share I would appreciate it.

>>4352596
https://youtu.be/zdAJW7vMJnw

>>4352584
Amazingly none of this is any less gay.

>>4352658
That's 1/4 songs at least. A good start.
...is it seriously called "Asian Soul"? Maeda writes great music, but the lyrics and titles can be quite odd.

>>4352596
>>4352658
The same channel also had the other battle theme. Now we are just missing the mid-boss theme and the weird vocal BGM during the prologue.

>>4352665
In regards to KuraMona I agree. But overall I have seen several places where the dumb translation toned down the gay. Though I have a feeling it wasn't intentionally censoring it, but just the dumb translators phrasing things in a way they thought made more sense (it didnt).

>>4352882
I'm probably not where you're at, but any notable instances?

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After replaying chapter 3 I finally understand why Mari feels like she is older than the rest of 31C even before the Adel event. She was a shop clerk for the base first and was then recruited into the combat units for her skill. She was actually around when Tsukishiro carved out Union Street for her shop to be made, so at a minimum she must have been around almost a year before the 31st gen started.

Even though it makes no sense for obvious reasons, all the "senpai" characters are intentionally portrayed as older and more mature than 31 characters. Mari has an aura of a slightly older girl because she is a senior at the base in her own way. This image is supported by her addressing all her squad members with "chan" which is often used for younger girls.

So the characterisation in the Adel event where it feels like she must have been at least a teen when Adel was a child actually just feeds into a pre-existing image. The swimsuit event had her act hesitant about wearing a swimsuit, with a light subtext of her feeling too mature to model for some pin-up stuff.

What I'm saying is that A-mari is a great age gap ship where Mari is getting swept off her feet by a younger girl, despite them realistically only being a few years apart at most. In fact depending on when they died, it may be a case of Adel being aged up compared to their original age gap.

>>4352895
I mean, the most famous instance is right in the prologue, so you could have hardly missed it. When Ruka says "some intense girl on girl bonding time" and "working up a sweat training", in the original JP she just straight up says "making love to another girl". None of that vague innuendo crap.
I didn't catalogue all the instances beyond that, but in recent memory, during Isuzu's second bond episode/socialisation she gets excited over getting the base's personal measurement data. Specifically all the girls' three sizes (bust, waist, pelvis), but in the EN translation she just says a bunch of generic measurement data. In the EN context you dont understand why she is excited about it and might even think she just was looking for general info, but in JP the obvious implication is that she wants to know the three sizes of girls because she is gay as fuck.

>>4352596
Prologue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnV_aoxKWB0
Boss theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmgiq6nJ_ck
Standard battle theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48QVS_yrofs

I hate how advantage + disadvantage = disadvantage

>>4353216
Pretty sure that depends on how much weakness vs. resistance. You can still hit "weakness" through resistance, but it needs a lot of weakness and relatively little resistance.

>>4353285
I'm just running into a situation with Light weakness + Pierce resistance yet hitting it with a light pierce unit doesn't give overdrive

>>4353369
If it's just normal attacks, you can get accessories that change the element of your basic attacks.
Also if it was reversed and it was resistant to light, but weak to pierce you could still use non-elemental pierce moves to build OD.

>>4353369
Weakness and resistance are multiplicative, so the enemy needs to have at least one 100% weakness to override a 50% resistance for building OD.

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Lewd

Is there a list of unique patrol missions tied to the day(s) they are available? I skipped through all the patrolling and now realize that I can get quartz for killing the unique bosses.

I tried looking at the faq but it didn't talk about patrols. The hbr.quest's Enemy Information and Battle Content didn't seem to have info on patrols either.
I hope I don't have to go through each day, talk to Asami, see that I cleared the boss already and then try the next day's free time.

>>4353561
I think I already explained this last thread, but you can see which days have Patrols in the day selection menu each chapter. There is only one patrol goal per chapter. You need to spend one day 100%ing the map and then another to beat the boss that appears afterwards. Basically 2 stamina, if your team is good enough to 100% a map before life runs out.

>>4353563
This isn't entirely true. Pretty sure 5.1 didn't need the two visits anymore, and some chapters also have more than 1.

You can definitely see it on the day selection though.

>>4353577
>5.1 didn't need two visits
In that case that's a fix. But that's really late anyway and anon would notice.
>some chapters have more than 1
Nope, you are thinking of chapter 2, but that second one is a story required patrol for Rotary Mole which gives you no rewards.

https://realsound.jp/tech/2024/12/post-1883667.html
A very interesting interview from Maeda. Some key points
>It was already known the game was supposed to be a tower defense at the start, but apparently even the plot was written during the tower defense days without rpg in mind.
>It was Shimoda who pushed for this to be a 3d game.
>Maeda supervises heavily, to the point of micromanaging character expressions and song timings.
>Terms like memory restoration and reincarnation are from wfs, they have nothing to do with the story.
>Maeda made a lot of contributions to events that he didn't write, which is why even non-Maeda events are partially his and why they don't have proper writing credits. However, the turning point was Sumomo event, which he did not touch except for the Fubuki lines. Now, the event credits properly state who's the writer.
>5.2 split and other delays are not due to Maeda, it's all on the wfs side.
>Maeda doesn't want to deliver something that's just fine, he wants to make something new or "betray the expectations" even if it's bad or uncomfortable for the reader.

>>4353604
That hair accessory made me think it's Yuina at first. I just have zero association between Ruka and long hair in my brain.

>>4353590
>It was Shimoda who pushed for this to be a 3d game
Actual savior. 2D Tower defense would have been so much less immersive or interesting.
>to the point of micromanaging character expressions and song timings
That much is obvious. You can tell it every time a song is used for a story scene. And some of those great moments where facial expressions shift mid-sentence even on characters that arent talking.
>restoration and reincarnation are from wfs, they have nothing to do with the story
I think reincarnation having no story relation was obvious, but even memory restoration? That makes the Garden of Memories more questionable...
>Maeda made a lot of contributions to events that he didn't write
That was also expected. Writing is a team effort usually. There is no way with how highly they regard Maeda that they wouldnt ask him for advice or approval on most things.
>which is why even non-Maeda events are partially his and why they don't have proper writing credits
This is garbage reasoning. Key/WFS are just cowards like the rest o the industry and dont credit small writers. Did they ever retroactively fix that for older events?
>5.2 split and other delays are not due to Maeda
This time I believe it. Seems to be the technical side that's slowing them down. But for 4.2 I still blame Maeda as it is no secret he tried to solo the entire chapter and expanded the scope several times...
>he wants to make something new or "betray the expectations" even if it's bad or uncomfortable for the reader
Sigh. Maeda is one of those writers who thinks "subvert expectations" is a goal in and of itself. Uncomfortable is one thing, but at least make it satisfying, regardless of whether it's a happy ending or not.
I can see him saying that last part especially with all the suicide and bullying stuff in mind. Very touchy subject in Japan.

Hello /u/, did you guys ever get 3x tokens for the mermaid event? I know it might be tough to remember, but if you do then let me know please.

>>4353627
That was 2 fucking years ago. I doubt there was anything like that. On JP events actually last a month and you get the Score Attack rewards instead. The x3 bonus only happens very rarely. Maybe once every 4 months.
If you are just trying to find out whether EN will have a rerun don't bother. All those x3 they are doing right now are already way faster and more varied than JP ever did it. So you can't make any predictions. For all we know EN will rerun the x3 campaigns for every event cyclically.

>>4353630
Thank you, I'll just farm it without the 3x in that case

>>4353590
>"betray the expectations" even if it's bad or uncomfortable for the reader
I really hope that this doesn't also apply to the ending, like having his only yuri game being the only one without a happy end.

>>4353607
>suicide and bullying
I hope he is talking more about things like this. And speaking of "taboo" topics, I'd like if sooner or later it would explore homosexuality in a meaningful way at least a little, like if the Shiki event will have a part where her being an out lesbian is treated more seriously then the usual gags of her being a skirt chaser pervert (though most probably he won't be the one who writes it anyway).

>>4353645
I can't link to it now because it was a very early interview and I can't remember which one it was, but I remember him saying that he already knows what the final scene is going to be and calling it sad (I think it was setsunai in Japanese). However, he also said that he thinks the story will actually continue after the finale, so it's most likely not "everyone dies". But Ruka or Yuki can die, I guess.

>>4353674
Finale of a gacha game story? How?

>>4353687
Plenty of gachas finish their story. But Maeda saying it will continue after that is basically keeping exactly that issue in mind. The gacha will continue to churn out content beyond that. I just hope that whatever ending the game has allows for meaningful post-story content.

>>4353674
Found it. It's that famitsu interview again, there's an insane amount of info in this one.
https://www.famitsu.com/news/202207/05263023.html
麻枝 ストーリーの節目となるラストシーンは数年前から考えていて、そこに向かって全力で取り組んでいます。その切ないラストシーンにすべてが詰まっているので、いまはそのシーンを描くのが目標です。

――楽しみです。ただ、ラストシーンを描くとゲームが終わってしまいますよね。それはそれでユーザーとしては寂しいです。

麻枝 いえ、終わらないです。ラストシーンを描いた後のつぎの展開も考えています。

>>4353693
Yeah we already know. It's 2 years old.

>>4353674
Maeda said in the last interview that he doesn't even know if the game will get axed before he can naturally reach the conclusion, so...

>>4353699
The 5 year plan clearly already has to be extended due to all the delays. If he keeps increasing the scope as he tends to do, it sure could drag on so long that it might actually be concerning. Let's just hope they focus up a little.

>>4353674
I don't think Maeda's cruel enough to only kill one of them, so if they have to, both Ruka and Yuki will die.
The biggest question rn is what exactly the title screen art means for the future development?
The first thing that comes to mind with the latest development is that Yuki will die/disappear, but her soul somehow be absorbed by Ruka like Narvy does to turn into HitoNarvy?

>>4353710
Is the title screen art even supposed to be meaningful on that level and not just Yuugen being artistic?

>>4353714
Literally nobody involved with the game has ever mentioned it, so it's mostly just people making shit up. There are more relevant things to speculate about like the darn cat.

>>4353590
>>Maeda doesn't want to deliver something that's just fine, he wants to make something new or "betray the expectations" even if it's bad or uncomfortable for the reader.
That's kind of funny coming from someone who deleted twice his twitter account and swore to not write events anymore after nips said island and tiger events were shit

>>4353674
"Sad scene" can be many things, not necessarily death/tragic ending. But it would really suck if, after years of build up, RukaYuki will have anything other than a big happy ending (I think all of the het main couples of his stories have a happy ending?).

>>4353710
My theory has always been that the reflection symbolizes that Yuki will end up being "on the other side", as in a rival/enemy.
Except that part in chapter 3, there is no drama between Ruka and Yuki, they are basically a married couple already, which is pretty "boring" narrative-wise, so I'm pretty sure that something big will happen sooner or later.

Being the co-protagonist, Yuki's backstory will surely be very important (no way it's just what she told Karen in 5.1), and we still don't know basically anything about the Cancers, whose real nature will probably be a big plot twist like the Narbies.
I wouldn't be surprised if Yuki has some special connection to the Cancers like Ruka has with the Narbies.

>>4353739
>on Yuki
Her Garden of Memories line when you talk to her has to be foreshadowing. "Even if the war ends, and humanity wins, I... nevermind"

>>4353736
They didn't event say that. Those events are considred average. There were plenty of supportive comments about them too. It's literally just a tiny minority of complainers that Maeda for some reason cares way too much about. Social media should be kept away from him.

>>4353744
The JP line feels way more like she is trying to say that even after all that she wants to stay with Ruka, but is too tsundere about it. That might be foreshadowing, just not in the way you think.

>>4353739
Yuki is the main heroine, not a co-protagonist, she doesn't have to be the most important person in the world lore wise.

>>4353630
I imagine a lot of the reason why global is trying to push shit out so fast is to catch it up to JP. I've seen other gachas do that before

>>4353764
Sure, but it's a dumb move for HBR, which updates very slowly. And even worse with the TL's state where it still needs a lot of fixing. They should be begging for more time to proofread that stuff instead of churning out content like crazy.
Players also can't keep up with the banners at all and are stressing over the limited time x3 tokens.

>>4353563
I searched the last thread, but I couldn't find posts about patrols or day selection. I also didn't look properly at the day selection menu, since I was doing socializations and the patrol tasks don't show up from that jump menu. Then Asami kept popping up so I finally looked at what she was offering.

Knowing that there's only one patrol per chapter and I can scan the days from the menu is very helpful though. Thank you.

>>4353590
Thank you.
>It was Shimoda who pushed for this to be a 3d game
Good call
>Terms like memory restoration and reincarnation are from wfs, they have nothing to do with the story.
So does it mean the memory garden is basically gameplay feature that will not be relevant?
>However, the turning point was Sumomo event, which he did not touch
Uh-oh! An event with no yuri despite it was expected (at least on Ichigo's part). Basically it means all the yuri is from Maeda, if wfs gains reign of the story or events it's oba.
>he wants to make something new or "betray the expectations"
It depends. Betray expectations like in ch.3? I'm all in for that. Betray expectations like cat event? It wasn't as bad as japs complained, but let's not.
>>4353704
To be fair I don't see how this story could be done even in 5 more years with this pacing. 2026 will only finish chapter 5. We still haven't met the mother cancer, not dealt with whatever happens in arctic, don't know what cancer is, liberation of Japan is in not neraly completed, there is new shit coming with meteors, don't have answers for time related fuckery(Ruka's premonition). Too much stuff.
>Yuki will die/disappear, but her soul somehow be absorbed by Ruka
Huh? I just read some stuff like that, lol.
>>4353739
Some get happy ending after suffering like Clannad, Kanon or Charlotta , some get "maybe" ending with reincarnation shenanigans like AB or Air.

>>4353857
>Uh-oh! An event with no yuri despite it was expected (at least on Ichigo's part). Basically it means all the yuri is from Maeda, if wfs gains reign of the story or events it's oba.
Are you retarded? What yuri were you expecting for Ichigo in the Sumomo event? HiguIchi? Even Maeda hasn't pushed that ship in the main story and their dynamic is actually 1:1 the same as in 5.1, so they were entirely faithful.
Also there were several events with no yuri crumbs whatsoever, all allegedly supervised by Maeda... so can you not freak out over nothing?

>>4353961
Not HiguIchi, retard. This event was the first and last chance to see Jasmine, and Ichigo pretty much all but stated to have had a crush on her. Pretty fucking important point but completely ignored.

>>4353964
Ichigo never implied to have had a crush on Jasmine. That's just your headcanon.
And this event was about Sumomo, so they focused on her relationship with Jasmine more. And even then, that scene where Jasmine was dying in Ichigo's arms still felt more like it was Ichigo's event than Sumomo's.

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Unplanned parenthood.

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>>4353587
The other anon >>4353577 is right, some chapters have more than 1. Pic related are two different patrols from chapter 2 and they both gave rewards.

>>4353974
Fucking kek

>>4353739
>I think all of the het main couples of his stories have a happy ending?
Not really. Whenever he has some freedom (Air, Tomoyo After, AB) the story usually isn't completely happy. The situation for Tomoyo After is pretty funny: Tomoyo was his favorite heroine in Clannad so he made a spin-off game just to turn her originally happy ending into a bad end. The backlash for that is so great that he deleted his social network account and in the next game (Little Busters) he let the player makes a choice to reject the sad ending to his in-game expy.

>>4354199
iirc Tomoyo Afterlife got rewrote buy another guy due to the backlash

>>4354225
Yeah, I think they changed the ending for the all ages version. Don't know who did it though.

>>4354199
Wow, never knew about Tomoyo, that's really fucked up, no wonder people got angry.
Iirc the AB couple gets separated but meet again in the post-credit scene when they get reincarnated, sorta like Kannazuki no Miko, so if it'll be something similar for RukaYuki I guess it would be fine.

But multiple endings would be better imho, so he can unleash his love for tragedy in one but still giving us a happy true end unlockable by doing something in-game, basically what he did in 5.1 but on a bigger scale.

>main team is 11k
>think the chapter 1 anachronies can't be that hard
The first Skitterer required boss-level combos to beat (and did boss-level damage before it died). And immediately after it, three more popped up, immediately ending the run

>>4354556
Yeah my 11500 Teams are barely passing the three skitterers, i gave up on clearing any high end content for now. I guess you need around 14000 to beat the boss.

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What even happened to this mode? Gone are the "use A/S" style fights. In come extremely gimmicky fights instead and the buffs you gain are so bad, you may as well completely ignore the extra fights? The boss isn't exactly hard for the same old team (+A-Aoi for comfy, but you can also use anything else you want, really) that ice can play since forever.
Mind you, that Aina can also be the ss1 one, because the boss absorbs dark, so you have to use the ss1 ex anyways.

Ehhh.

>>4354602
>complains about varied gimmicks
>wants to play boring A/S style battles that are basically the same as using SS1s
>complains that his retarded team combi still works
Man people like you are just all around worthless.

>>4354585
my team was 14k and it was mostly a battle of attrition than anything. 13k is probably fine. Especially if you use 2 teams to not run out of EX skills

>>4354651
A/S battles don't allow you to use SS1 ex, so I'm not sure why it's the same?
And yes, gimmicks aren't good game design. Shit like
>has to be ice style AND almost full DP to get giga discount and damage on ice skills only
feels just bad. That's way too specific, especially when you then add blunt to the requirements and consider how the final fight is ice.

And all for buffs that may as well do nothing.

>retarded team combi
What's retarded? You are just flinging adjectives with no purpose now. Are you getting paid? I hope you do, but you are doing a bad job.

>>4354960
What are you talking about? Those battles allowed you to use all tranferable skills. Don't make shit up just to make a worthless point.
>"play an ice team" is too much for baby
Ouch. And playing a garbage A style team doesn't feel bad? You really are the dumbest. You can easily beat that fight without having a blunt ice character by the way (or just use Maria).
>hurr durr I dont understand the most obvious point, so you must be paid
Holy sht the cope.

>>4354960
But it's good that they try to somehow encourage people to play elements? I fucking hate these cookie cutter Sumomo comps just doing everything. And they probably can do this one anyway. And they haven't even released the proper pierce crit buffer yet to make matters worse.

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I really like the random conversations in the grinding dungeons. Megumin is pretty caring about Tama and Ruka asking if Megumin can teleport them to Hawaii with her psychis made me laugh.
I guess there aren't that many cross-squad interactions in the EN version yet.

I liked the gimmick fight where you had to survive 5 turns. There are a lot of way to approach it. Aoi block with SP buffs, A-san and Mari shadow clones, Irie or Ichiko+Seira defense buffs. Even reviving DP with Tama or Risa2 kinda works if you generate OD or SP fast enough. HBR needs more puzzle stuff like that with player flexibility.

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Miya's birthday means... whatever I can scrounge up I guess. Like the official 4koma.

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Oh an oldie, but a goldie.

Why did Megumi have to make Tama cry? What a cunt

>>4355165
It builds character

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>>4353699
I'm not stupid enough to care about doomposting like this and I know for a fact HBR is incredibly profitable, but this kind of stuff does put a few things into question.
Maeda is obviously not heavily involved in the financial side of the game. He probably just got told that he has budget limitations and they told him to hurry up the plot a bit and his PTSD from AB and Charlotte kicked in making him assume the game might get axed.

What is more relevant to me is just how desperate WFS has acted lately with the game monetization. They updated the subsciption to be more appealing, they release broken style after broken style like they had to break the emergency glass. They are releasing unison pretty rapidly. They already pushed another AB! collab withpopular characters who arent even in the event. Nearly ever banner has the goal bar now. It all points to one thing: They need to make lots of money quickly.

It's probably just pure greed because HBR doesnt make the numbers it did initially anymore, but maybe there is an actual cash flow reason for this. If they are funneling huge sums of money into something, it sure as hell isn't the game itself, considering how much events have been cutting back lately and how long the main story takes. So what exactly are they investing the considerable sums into beyond just greedy managers and investors?
I never saw any reason for it and I don't think it's a good idea, but... the most expensive thing I can think of is an anime adaptation. A single anime episode can cost millions of yen. Out of all the shit people used to predict an anime, this for some reason is the most convincing to me.

>>4355759
While I also think they will announce the adaptation this year, anime financing doesn't usually work that way. What usually happens is that you form a production committee with a publisher and a few involved sponsors, and they all pitch in. Being the sole entity to finance a high budget show is usually a gambling addict-tier of behavior, because you have to tank insane losses if it flops.

>>4355762
That may be so, but WFS would have to invest major capital regardless to attract and reassure investors. No product is carried entirely by sponsors unless it's a total sellout thing. They would most definitely have to set aside quite a bit of cash.
It's the only reason aside from greed I can think of for the current state of affairs.

>>4355759
The production values of each new chapter is higher than the last so they do use some of the the money on the game. As for the monetization I think it's just normal for a gacha to give better deals as the game gets older to encourage spending, you don't need broken stuff to clear the story right now so it's not that bad.
Honestly the only problem is WFS trying to stall the game for some reasons.

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>>4355770
>the only problem is WFS trying to stall the game for some reasons
They aren't stalling it on purpose, they are clearly just in over their heads and can't keep up. A lot of this could be solved by hiring more staff that can speed up the process.
5.2 has honestly not been much more ressource heavy than 4.2 or 5.1. This idea that production values are spiraling out of control is not really based in reality. But they are doing a lot of extra stuff that takes more time.

I won't bore people with a game development rant again, but it really comes down to either investing more money or more time into the game. They are choosing time, because it's cheaper. I also think the management is pretty bad overall which causes so many scheduling issues and slowdowns in general. At least they seem to be pretty open to let anybody's ideas get a shot, which is how we got so many side-modes and unique event ideas before. But due to crunch they have been severely held back on that. I mean when's the last time we got something like Oshimaya with an extensive special gameplay idea? Aoi's event 1 year ago? That just reused the existing rhythm game engine. Everything else since then has been very standard visual novel events with 2D dungeon filler. This is not a criticism of the events writing mind you, some of the better overall events came out last year, but they are so clearly working with a skelleton crew on those. The most extreme thing we got were 3D lives (which they outsourced anyway) and an entirely new area for the Maki event, which is most definitely gonna be reused in the future.

The only mode with any ambition last year was Operation Perseus, which I consider a testing ground for them to try out 3D map development.

>>4355762
I don't think an anime adaptation is coming because Visual Arts already has heavily invested in Summer Pockets and the next Key original show (Project Reaper) that's going to be announced this year and I don't think WFS will take the risk to invest alone in it.
Maybe in a year or two, but then it feels kinda late for a gacha, but at the same time basically everything Key made got an anime adaptation.
Also, I would personally rather not take the risk because there's very little chance of it winning the good staff lottery.

>>4355794
>A lot of this could be solved by hiring more staff
They never stopped doing that, WFS websites has open position for HBR jobs ever since it came out.

>>4355770
>the only problem is WFS trying to stall the game for some reasons.
Stupid theory: they want EN to catch up.

>>4355840
They don't give a shit about EN, it's not even theirs like ķr and tw.

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I made this for future team planning and figured I might as well post it

>>4355794
>They aren't stalling it on purpose
Maybe, but they did ask Maeda to extend the main story chapters a few times now. >>4355840
Like the anon above me said the EN version is handled by Yostar not WFS. I doubt WFS even know what it's like.

>>4355870
>they did ask Maeda to extend the main story chapters a few times now
I assume that's because those segments need actual gameplay and Maeda just wrote story, mainly. Also the opposite happened in 4.2.
All the padding we tolerate in the chapters is just part of giving the story more meat. But that stuff wouldn't actually drag out the process much.

>>4355869
Minori's and Muua's SS2s arent onsen styles. They are New Years yukata.

>>4356023
The guide I was using had Minori listed as Onsen. Muua was listed as Pajama but it looked like the same type of outfit Yotsuha was wearing to me at a glance so I figured it was a mistake. It's probably just based on their own observation

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I think we always need to remind ourselves of the absolute shellshock we experienced on the day this unison was revealed. It's so fucking gay.

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I got some serious AkaMisa withdrawal. The Aina event barely even fed me crumbs.

>>4355840
That's like saying they are waiting for CN to catch up. Completely ridiculous.

Are we getting new styles this week? We're still behind on New Year's styles. Diva banner is already over too. But I think it might actually make more sense for them to wait an extra week.

>>4357548
Yes, they will announce it on stream tomorrow.

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Did anyone notice that the 31A art from the beginning always had Tsukasa awakened in it? That's some crazy foreshadowing.

>140 summons in
>no SS
>random non platinum 10 pull ticket
>"here have an SS"
That's fucking insulting

>>4357580
People noticed it in 2022 after ch.3 dropped. There even were theories that something would happen to Tama because she's clearly separated from the rest. Yuugen also said later that Megumi is looking at Ruka and that is important, but I don't think that part turned out the way he intended.

hbr.quest is up
>buffs that only trigger after removing debuffs from your characters
What is this gimmick shit, shimoda.

So if I fail to get one before spark is it better to get Yotsuha or Muua?

>>4357938
Muua is universally useful, Yotsuha is jusr really good for fire teams. Ideally get both and Seira2.

>>4357937
Might be good if a character has self-debuffs...

https://www.youtube.com/live/7gIfv1bu2ZM
Starting soon. No idea if there will be anything other than the already leaked style reveal.

>NY gacha is until the 24th and not until the anni stream date.
>stream on 23rd
I think they could do a pre-anni ambush like Unison Yuina last year. Maybe not an unison, but admiral or something.

>>4357979
I am glad we didnt get another stupid waifufag style for Risa. That race queen shit still sours it for me.

Akari's self-debuff is insane though. 5 turns of depression making her utterly useless unless she is paired with a buff removal style.

>>4358017
Risa's gimmick is also insane. Sure, it works with enemies that spam debuffs, but if they don't, she turns into a pumpkin. It feels bad to see these restrictions after having characters like Aoi, Ruka or Sumomo who can do 10 different things freely, it just popularity based treatment diff.

>>4358051
In a vacuum I like gimmicks and making character unique... but not right next to 5 broken braindead styles in a row. These styles feel like they are made for a different game that didnt break through power creep.

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I dont know what's supposed to be bad about Risa. She gives whole party MInd's Eye which makes her a straight upgrade to Muua SS1 and can remove debuffs and gives damage buffs too. This is a real allrounder ult.
And she gets the transferable skill that can also remove debuffs and heal, so that will be useful on any Risa.

Akari can double ult like swimsuit Karen-chan and gets Yukki's enemy buff removal (although more limited). These are both niche use styles, sure, but those niches are incredibly understaffed.

https://x.com/heavenburnsred/status/1877322237381890189
I feel like the change of voice actress is very noticable.
But more importantly, she calls out to Misarin and Fubuki while she panics... you aren't sly devs. We understand.

>>4358058
I don't even get this joke.

Maybe they'll revisit older/less popular SS styles and revamp them?

>>4358066
They already did... In several different ways.

>>4358056
>I dont know what's supposed to be bad about Risa. She gives whole party MInd's Eye which makes her a straight upgrade to Muua SS1
She only gives the whole party Mind Eye if she removed a debuff, if she didn't remove a debuff, she only heals.

>>4358074
Does it work with exhaustion? The may be the one and only time SS2 Ichigo's unnecessary debuff may actually be useful.

>>4358079
It should work with any of these effects. But even if you set it up yourself, it's still an annoying gimmick to deal with because you have to trigger it twice to double stack, and you have to do it during setup. She needs them to add more support styles that self-debuff at convenient times to be consistent as a buffer.

>>4358085
I can already see the Akari combo, where you pray her self buff actually def downs her.

Okay, kidding. No space for Akari in fire. Even if she technically works fairly well as an OD generator thanks to the permanent +5 hits and her A skill, fire has enough of that already.

Mom's heal is however pretty good. As far as healing per SP goes, she should take first place. Only problem is the lack of overheal, that even base Yanagi got. If you are a whale, you should pick her up. First character that can simply remove any and all debuffs at will. That counts for something.
I'm broke. Too much insanely broken stuff that has been released back to back.

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I've been waiting to use my boosting items because I'm curious on who my first natural maxed unit will be. At this point there's a clear frontrunner though

I have a huge problem. My PC suddenly bricked and now when I got back to my steam account and launched HBR it started all over from start. Is there a way to restore my account?

>>4359145
login from whatever account it's linked to

>>4359145
Should have bound it to a Google account or given your player ID a takeover password. That's how you can synchronize it across devices like PC and phone. If your account wasn't bound or setup with a password, then you could try contacting their support to have them find it in their database and do it for you. I once had to do that for Toji no Miko. If you don't know your previous player ID, then maybe they'll let you describe the account, too.

5.2.1 was very meh

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>>4359152
Thank you! I sent the request to support, though they do require alot of data to describe the account. Like how am I supposed to remember all socialisation stats of Ruka, or the last time I used that S ticket gacha? Though lots of surprising questions like what styles did you use daphne on or the dencho skin you are using. Hope listing all my SS would help them.

At what level do I unlock team slots 16-20?

>>4359187
Nope.

>>4359199
Should be at 50.

>>4359142
Save up those items anyway, you can turn them into SS fragments once EN adds that feature. With the rate you get currency on EN you will naturally max out most A and S styles anyway.

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Otama-sama

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HisaIno is getting pretty consistent art all year around.

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AkaMisaFubu got shafted in the Aina event, but it's still alive.

Are we not getting conquest this month?

>>4359341
Doesn't look like it, the next stream is the "one week before anni" one already.

So, is the anniversary event just 31a? The only assets we have right now are a single unfinished dummy asset for Maria and a single new pose for Chie, both are not enough to confirm an event. And they're doing the "event starts right after the anni stream" thing again, so it's supposed to be something they consider special too.
Unless it's a 2nd collab, but someone will burn their office if that happens.

>>4352585
I'd argue it's been canon since chapter 2

>>4359373
I don't think so. On a meta basis, maybe. But up to chapter 3 RukaYukki was still more the typical yuribait duo that will forever just get teased, but have no major relevance to the actual ships they have.

>>4359446
To each their own. I think it was something that was already becoming a bit more serious and canon before then. But I do agree that moment was when it actually became beyond any reasonable doubt however. And there are a few more really strong moments like that in Chapter 4 part 1 when they're all having an existential crisis

Do S tickets ever get an expanded roster or should I just use them. At this point there's only 1 S I'm missing and it's a relatively new one

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>>4355759
> It all points to one thing: They need to make lots of money quickly.
From my perspective it's better to have strong banners and less bricks. It gives new players an easy way to get strong teams

>>4359717
Why did you phrase this in the most obtuse way possible? Just ask if there will be more S styles. The tickets don't affect anything. And to answer that stupid question, as you can already see there are far fewer S styles in the pool than SS styles. HBR has very few gacha S styles. You get most from the event shops.

>>4359742
There are no bricks in this game. Any style works and can be used to beat content, even the really old ones. Making a bunch of retardedly broken styles just hurts the game balance and longevity. If every character is stupid bullshit you don't need to pull for new styles anymore, because nothing in the game can remotely challenge you. Powercreep has killed many gacha before, so don't even pretend this can be a good thing.

>>4359717
You're basically drawing from almost the entire pool of S & SS styles with S tickets. The pool is updated on the 1st of every month, but it won't contain styles that released on the most recent gachas. Like the current pool from 12/31 - 1/31 still doesn't have Diva Ruka. There really isn't a good time to use S tickets since the chances of you getting what you want are near none, but I guess they can give you some extra S dupes for piece points to exchange for gold pieces

>>4359717
Event tickets usually have pretty short duration, you can't sit on them for long even if you want. There's a button to check it.

>>4359848
It's already getting there. I saw someone playing 5.2 with the newest Sumomo and it doesn't feel like we're playing the same game anymore. She's just perma pierce crit ults everything, because it's half cost on first use for some reason and gets skill uses restored on kill for some reason, it's crazy. I said for some reason, but I know the reason, it's because they wanted to shill that new mode, so they threw any pretense of balance out the window.

That anon :
>>4359145
here. I got reply and they said they couldn't identify my account but suggested to reapply the request if I provide more information... How adequate would it be if I send them a screenshot of my homescreen from half year ago with a date when it was exactly made? I'm running out of ideas.

>>4360058
Have you not linked it to anything? The easiest way otherwise is to have a purchase history.

I doubt random screenshots from who knows when would help. They only know account states now.

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Huh totally missed that this came out in english and only just leaned about it today, neat. Should check it out at some point.

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Akari's memory episode is adorable. I hope to see those two hanging out in the background together in future scenes, but WFS has been surprisingly conscious of the little relationships they've built up over the years.

Reminder for that anon that asked that Sugoi Translator (the OCR) by MingShiba is free on the 15th/16th. So you can download it right now.
https://www.patreon.com/mingshiba/about

>30-G referring to Tsukishiro and Hisame as "Tsukishiro and the others"
such disrespect

>>4361283
Hisame's fate is to never get respected.

There's no way there will be only 2 new styles in the whole month, right?

>>4362400
The AB banner is running for all of January, so it's basically a January banner more than those 4 days of December.

I really thought they were going to release Operation Perseus Part 3 this month, but I guess they are going to put it out alongside 5.2.2 so they have something for players who are behind on the main story.

>>4360989
Translation also keeps it mostly unambiguous so don't worry about yostar fucking it up