Cosmic Princess Kaguya! (超かぐや姫! aka Chou Kaguya-hime!) released on Netflix January 22nd, 2026. This day marked the first day in history that a feature length original story yuri animated movie was brought into the world. >Epilogue MV:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=356MRZ6P5h0Paste with links to the>Light Novel adaptation>Manga Adaptation>Official Guidebook: Beyond the Happy Ending>Various music videos>Trivia and analyses collected by fans>Fanfic recommendationshttps://rentry.org/9izs3ag5
We probably don't need regular threads, but the movie is still pretty new and as long as the manga and Light Novel are still being translated we got something to discuss at least.In other new:https://x.com/Cho_KaguyaHime/status/2019380490713837928Apparently the movie will get one week limited time cinema release in Japan. https://x.com/ku__koma/status/2018886810496344394Saniro will have 4 Kaguya themed concerts in VR chat.https://x.com/Cho_KaguyaHime/status/2019380735870697734A special notebook with illustrations by the staff will be sold for a limited time. It's themed like the movie's epilogue scrapbook.
They are releasing more merch as time goes on.>making a design where Kaguya specifcally laughs at RokaWhat did they mean by this?
>>4525120One of them is male anon.
>>4525121Ok, but how do you know? And why be so vague about it? Are you saying one of them is using a female avatar, but is male in real life?
>>4525122>ボイチェンネカマおじさん美少女を公言するライバー。You can check it from guidebook.
I think it's a really cool detail that dog girl Otako has actually been a Kaguya/Iro-P fan since the very beginning. She was there during their very first event and she is getting ultra hyped when Iro-P takes off her fox costume and even more hyped in the ray MV when Iroha actually does a dance choreography on stream.Not to mention crying on kaguya's graduation concert.
>>4525123Oh so the apple girl is doing babaniku? They really do include all kinds of Vtuber culture...
>>4525123So I had the right idea about using a female avatar. Deleted my post. Thanks for pointing it out.
Hahaha, you thought we had exhausted all details? Not by a longshot!Yachiyo's eyes actuallly look like Mount Fuji in several shots in the movie. If you know the tale of the Bamboo Cutter, you know the reference.
Here is a translation of Yachiyo's 2chan chat from the flashback. She really was a proper channer...
Anyone got any idea what the random flying magical train at the end of the movie was about?
>>4522655>Iroha's comment about Kaguya's marriage proposal not being legal is made in 2030, it's possible that it is legal by 2040.Very optimistic to believe Japs will legalize gay marriage in 14 years, but it is science-FICTION after all.
>>4525118If only that booklet wasn't going to be some impossible to get in-store-only item that ends up selling out everywhere anyway.>>4525119The acrylic character stands are at least edited full body poses but almost all of the other merch is just lazy screengrabs so far. That image was only half of the purikura-style scene and they had other much better screengrabs they could have taken during the montage that would have made for a better option. I'm convinced that the companies they hire to make these types of generic merch don't really know what people want to see because they always do stuff like this.>>4525136Just a shot of tsukuyomi, it isn't unexpected that it would have flying moon themed trains as a mode of transport. I haven't heard anything that connects it as an easter egg to some part of the story.
>>4525143>it isn't unexpected that it would have flying moon themed trains as a mode of transportDidn't seem like that was a thing in what we saw of the city at least. They had fish themed blimps tho. Though maybe if you log in you take the space train to Tsukuyomi, but nah login brings you to the torii gate.
>gets drunk with her old school friends after finishing her wifebot project>somehow ends up bringing them home while getting frisky>android wife's red eyes start glowing with thermal vision
>>4525143Most merch for all series is definitely super lazyI dont like merch without a use in general. Gimme a book or the OST at high quality or a blu-ray disc, but I dont know why I should buy pins or acrylic stands or nendroids or whatever. It's just garbage that's gonna pile up (kinda like kaguya's stuff in Iroha's appartment)
>>4525164It's every otaku's responsibility to accumulate enough junk that their parents have to bag it all up to be put out for the trash when anon dies before them.
>>4525166Excuse me, I'm taking all that junk including the inevitable KaguIro figures to the grave.
I have to buy a new mattress soon and I'm terrified of some rando seeing all the crap on my walls. I might actually tell him to just drop it in the hallway and I'll take it from there.
>>4525118>Copying or reproducing this work is prohibitedIf they didn't make it a theater exclusive I wouldn't feel so compelled to scan every page and post it. Already in a cold sweat over the bidding wars I'm going to engage in to get one.
>>4525126>Deleted my post.how the fuck do you delete a post?
>>4525217Click the checkbox on your post then click the delete button after a minute.
>>4525207Better version of the same image by YukikoFeel like every yuri mangaka have watched this.
>>4525220
>>4525220>>4525221Makes sense, they started in a room for two, though they later moved into a house for two.
>>4525119People have pointed out that it's likely Roka will be the one doing the bridal makeup for Iroha and Kaguya when they get married.
https://x.com/i/status/2019576778009043038
>>4525214Yeah someone's gonna do it. It's absolutely unreasonable to gate content behind something like this. It's not like they don't know the scans will be up day 1, but they have to pretend to care.>>4525217If you realize you fucked up within like 15 minutes of making the post you can still delete it by checking the box on your post and pressing the delete button in the bottom right of the thread.Thankfully anon pointed out my mistake quickly.
>>4525223I assume by that point Roka will have gotten her own girlfriend and gotten over Iroha, so it's fine.
>>4525124I love our biased supportive doggo
Ahah, the French
>>4525300I hate that this is tempting me to buy an overpriced study app just for this.
>>4525309The heck kind of game is it? With a name like Gogh I expected it to be an art game.
>>4525115Can someone give me a link to the manga raws (or is it available on bookwalker?) and tell me where to get a high quality movie rip or torrent so I can add them to the paste? I don't personally need them but it's something people could find useful.
>>4525310https://store.steampowered.com/app/3213850/gogh_Focus_with_Your_Avatar/Even after checking it out I still don't really get it. Seems to be a glorified timer/to-do-list app with music? But there is a pet/companion feature and they didnt make InuDOGE or Fushi options. They are just plushs you can collect. Are they stupid?
>>4525313It was probably the only collab that they could arrange in such a short amount of time
>>4525315Seems the app got a Miku collab just before this, so apparently Gogh can pull some strings. It's also highly rated which surprises me. So the flow from Miku to CPK is kinda natural. Especially because Iroha is the exact type who would use this kind of app...
>>4525313>>4525310From the looks of it, it's a "study with me" game? Seems like you make an avatar and a room to have someone to study with. Similar to those vlogs and study lofi music videos you see on YouTube. I guess if you need help being productive for the next 10 years in trying to build an android body for your wife, this can help?
I'll get the silly app if I'm allowed to have both of them in the same room.
The Guidebook is getting a reprint after it was sold out on amazon.>>4525220>>4525221What yuri artists other than Yukiko confirmed to have watched it? And I dont mean xitter artists, I mean actual mangaka/webcomic artists.
>>4525319You would need to find someone else who uses the other avatar and joins your room.
Gorgeous af
>>4525321Booo. They should have just done Iroha and had Kaguya as an accessory. Then include Yachiyo as the vtuber on the laptop screen.
>>4525127Are you sure? Just looks like standard eye gradient coloring to me.
>>4525147Three types of NTR in a single fanfic. Congrats anon.
>>4525118>not airing the movie in cinemas on Valentine's daywhat a blunder
>>4525311The 1st vol of the manga isn't out until the 10th, someone will certainly post them when they are up. LN and guidebook are the ones that came out last week.>>4525320Minakata Sunao, Takashima Hiromi, Ononaka Akihiro, Yukiko, Sometime, probably a bunch of others that haven't posted about it yet. I probably missed a few obvious ones and I've been looking at it for almost two weeks now and I know I remember a few others had posted but I can't remember who they were. You can bet money that most yuri authors will watch this soon if they haven't already.>>4525325It is extremely obvious once you see it. Look at the bottom of her eye and there is a sloped mountain with a white flat top. Then go look up a picture of mt fuji. Sadly fanartists are missing that detail too often and it stands out so much once you know it is supposed to be there.
https://x.com/i/status/2019576784573067415
>>4525395Kuji merch is the one thing I'm not going to whale on. Total waste of money every time I do it. Unless the A tier prize is godly
I just finished MTLing the novel and there’s this part that feels unsettling to me. Is she implying that her father was suicidal / depressed?I wonder what this world looked like to you, Father.I don't know anything about him. We only spent a few years together, and in my memories, he's always smiling, always putting his heart into helping someone. He never once showed me an angry, sad, or pained expression.Sometimes I think. For my father, who was too kind, this world must not have been a very pleasant place.My father died in an accident. But that was just the way the dice had fallen, and in reality… I’d thought about things like that before, but now, no one would ever know the truth. Perhaps my mother knew everything. But whatever she was carrying, she would take it to her grave.What were you feeling? Why did you go somewhere no one’s words could reach you, leaving Mother and me behind?
>>4525124>the hip shakesHow did our Iroha become so shameless.
>>4525401>jiyuu da!It stood out to me in the MV too but I figure she is at her most happy and free now that she is secure in a shared love with kaguya.
>>4525400Considering that Iroha admitted herself to being suicidal to Yachiyo and the fact that mental illness is hereditary they might not be far from the case.
>>4525320I thought Mikami Teren's yapping about it was kinda funny. The guidebook writer even commented under her twit. The number of yurifags among the production team must be pretty high.
>>4525118>In other new:>https://x.com/Cho_KaguyaHime/status/2019380490713837928>Apparently the movie will get one week limited time cinema release in Japan.They really don't hide how gay this is, picking those lines for the trailer.
>>4525406A bit late to hide it by now. The original trailers were a lot leas obvious about it though.
>>4525405Do you have her tweet about it in your history by chance? Going through someone's xitter history is a pain in the ass.
>>4525404Mental illness ia absolutely not alwaya hereditary. That's just a couple of very specific mental illnesses and only at a certain probability.We know why Iroha was suicidal. She was pushed to her mental limit by her circumstances.
>>4525361>The 1st volume isnt outBut clearly the scanlators got their hands on chapter 1-3, so there has to be a source...
>>4525439They publish free chapters of almost every manga to their web reader to draw in readers. Looks like 2 and 3 will be pulled down in 2 weeks. It is not guaranteed that 4 and on will be given free chapter period for their release but it isn't impossible.https://comic-walker.com/detail/KC_008281_S?episodeType=first
>>4525445Thanks anonette!>tags: Shounen>no yuri tagGoddammit.
>>4525361Wow the only one of that whole list I saw was Sometime.Also for those who don't recognize mangaka by name like us authists:>Minakata Sunao = Roll Over and Die>Takashima Hiromi = Kase-san series>Ononaka Akihiro = MahoAko (aka trash)>Yukiko = A Room For Two (Futaribeya)>Sometime = Hero-san and Former General-san>Mikami Teren = WataNare
>>4525452>authists.......you know what? I will take the W on this one. Typos into miracles.
>>4525395>>4525396For us unenlightened, what is this merch supposed to be?
Yo anons want some CPK themed shot glasses? Take a shot every time someone says something gay in the movie. Die of liver failure https://x.com/p_animestore/status/2019606991748964483/photo/1
>>4525457It is literally real life gacha. You buy 1 lottery ticket and get 1 random item. They weight the prizes so the cheap junk makes up the majority of tiers and then the top A tier will be really nice and unique with a near unwinnable % chance. They haven't shown what the prizes are yet so we need to wait a few more days for the sale to start. Imagine you pay for 20 tickets at 770 yen each and get 18 stickers, keychains, can badges, or other junk of mami and mikado, with your best 2 prizes being duplicate stickers of Iroha by herself. Then some otherl ucky person will win an A tier prize buying only 1 ticket which is probably a beautiful newly drawn illustration of Kaguya and Iroha together with in a fancy nice picture frame. Just made up examples of what these end up looking like since they all are managed by the same companies.
>>4525462Sounds like brainrot. No thanks.
Yachiyo absolutely would have a high school girl uniform fetish. Don't even deny it.
Kaguya: You forgot something (literally)
>>4525472
>>4525462That sounds even worse than Pachinko wth
>>4525460That is actually a nice understated design and not terrible value for 2200 yen. I would have considered it if they put the design on a mug instead of a shot glass since I'm not an alcoholic that would be using a shot glass every day.>>4525474Sometimes the prizes aren't terrible but generally it is impossible to get the one you are aiming for unless you buy an unreasonable number of tickets. No surprise that they make the A tier prize close to or under 5% win rate and just happen to make the tickets conveniently have the same shipping cost if you buy up to 20 of them (1/.005 = 20). The only upside is most of the time these events don't use unique art so it is easy to avoid.
>>4525477Why would you need to use it regularly tho?
The pillow pose from the MV is getting some use in fanart
>>4525473I feel like it's a mystery whether Kaguya would actually get flustered in any situation.
The problem is that they are not official coupletheir keep the status quo, that mean, don´t knowledge as former lovers.Yes, even after thousand of virtual years or 10 year of human life spanJust like MadoHomuOr SatoRika from HigurashiAnd othersThey can just pass as special relationship whataver it mean
>>4525541I strongly disagree. Some works are written to keep things ambiguous, and allow a romantic interpretation to be as plausible as strong friendship. But this isn't one of them, and it's a mistake to consider them equivalent. "You were my best friend" is not on the same level as "I fell in love with you at first sight."
>>4525541Kaguya literally says she loves her and proposes to her and Iroha accepts and says she wants to be with her. This is in a movie that is crystal clear how it follows real Japanese folklore that is over 1000 years old and literally names the character after the princess who is doomed to be separated from her lover. Except this movie explicitly says fuck that lets cross time and space to get the happily ever after and be together. Ok you got this far so I can stop holding back on calling you a brainlet. Maybe get off your phone next time you watch a movie.
>>4525533Yachiyo would, so yeah.
>>4525541Leave ESL.
>>4525544>>4525546Don't take the shitposter seriously. Claiming the "status quo" was kept is a surefire way to tell this retard didn't watch the movie.
The great thing about a fanart output this big is that we also get actual artistic masterpieces between the usual ship art.
Why were the lunarians anti-marriage?
>>4525564Because if Kaguya just was messing around on Earth to have fun she would have eventually had her fill and returned. But getting bound to a lover forever means living out her final days on Earth and never returning.
Whelp, wouldnt this be an interesting crossover...
Playing the "I love you game" on stream.
>>4525569For those who dont know the "I love you game" is where you keep saying I love you to each other in a more genuine way every time till one of you breaks or freaks out. It's basically just gay chicken.It was a little popular among Vtubers for a while.
I guess this was too obvious for anyone to point out, but this scene is just so much...Yachiyo doing the same pre-show routine as Kaguya, but the bunny changed to loach (a type of fish), symbolizing Yachiyo's change over time.Then the absolute narrative irony of how Kaguya reacts to learning that Yachiyo cannot eat or taste food and saying she could never bear with that torture.... ouch.
While we're talking about foreshadowing. Look at these tears. Kaguya and Yachiyo cry in the same exaggerated way with tears that hang down like pendulums. Except Yachiyo's look fake like from an emote, while Kaguya's are drawn in a more real way.Nobody else cries in this way in the entire movie, once again driving home the connection between these two. This movie's details are truly endless.
>>4525564I love how in my timeline these two pictures were posted back to back lol
>>4525565I guess they don't understand the concept of death cause they could have just waited 80 years for her.
>>4525585Kaguya got a biological body. She would have died permanently. They would have had to take her back before that regardless to turn her back into a digital being. Whether they take her back at the age of 90 or right now, makes little difference to these creatures I suppose.
I just read the cast list and I did not realize Otako was voices by Ai Fairouz. Our yuri queen really be voicing the number one yuri shipper in the movie lolAlso they hired Rie Kugimiya to voice Fushi. Imagine getting an A-lister to voice a seaslug!
I'm dangerously close to caving in and watching this a 5th and 6th time over the weekend. This movie is taking over my life.
>>4525568Yachiyo's messy computer setup with all the components and wires in the apartment did remind me of Lain's room, I wonder if they specifically used it for inspiration. Also she'd totally just wear the bear pajama as her Tsukuyomi avatar.
>>4525564They want Kaguya to pay off her work debt first before letting her go off for real.
>>4525541>The problem is that they are not official coupleYou are literally retarded and reading your post hurt my brain. You can leave.
>──Thank you. Could you also tell us about any scenes you found difficult or that left a strong impression on you?>Nagase: The scene where Iroha gargles. I was actually gargling for real during that take.>──That’s a bit surprising.>Nagase: It was one of the scenes Director Shingo Yamashita was very particular about. In that moment, Kaguya is drawn to Iroha and has a bit of a realization. I was curious about it, so I asked Director Yamashita, and it seems Kaguya was captivated by the sight of Iroha gargling... or rather, in that moment, Kaguya simply found Iroha beautiful as a living being.>I’m not sure if Kaguya was sensing something fundamentally "human" in the movement of the throat or the sound, but I struggled with that scene. It was also my first time ever gargling during a recording, so I was doing the acting while feeling a bit surprised myself.
>>4525690The deepening relationship between Kaguya and Iroha that you two perform is one of the highlights of this work. As their relationship progressed, were there any changes in your acting approach?Natsuyoshi: Regarding the relationship changes, there's actually a clear trigger point within Kaguya. In the early part, there's a scene where Iroha shows a sense of resignation while brushing her teeth, and I interpreted that as the moment Kaguya simply found Iroha beautiful and began wanting to make her happy. From then on, with each scene, I performed with gradually increasing affection toward Iroha.Nagase: In Iroha's case, I don't think there was a clear specific timing. However, Iroha has a personality where she's overly concerned about others' evaluations. With Kaguya, who's the only one who affirms her, she ends up wanting to do anything for her. So through various events—both good and bad—before she knows it, her feelings for Kaguya have grown larger. I expressed that change in a gradient-like manner.
>>4525568>>4525679Who?
>>4525589>Our yuri queenI thought that was Miku Itou.
>>4525690>>4525691Gargling is a mating call to lunarians.
>>4525406They have since put out another trailer that's all about the action scenes, so it's nice that the aspect they decided to highlight in the first trailer for the big theatrical release announcement was the romance.
>>4525697This anon's anime-watching loicense is counterfeit.
Not sure if this is meant to be a callback since the japanese words used are different, but it's nice to think it is.
>>4525452Add Yuama (KimiTsuzu): https://x.com/maymaymay7523/status/2020031349583933454
>>4525678Way ahead of you. I probably watched it once per day for a week. Though I did watch simultaneous viewings with streamers on youtube for the reactions.
>>4525704If it aint yuri, I dont know it.
>>4525705Iroha would never leave her behind, but fate is quite ironic...
>>4525707Yuama from "The Summer You Were there"? Damn it's all the greatest hits in here.
>Iroha for the first 40 minutes of the movie
>>4525118I saw some Jap from Okinawa going "No, why is it not airing here?!" and I feel that's a little like a Murican from Utah or North Dakota wondering why the biggest event of the year isnt happening in their hinterland state.
>>4525361>It is extremely obvious once you see it.To be fair, the movie is rather inconsistent about that detail. Mostly for the sake of color adjusting and emotional expression.
>>4525448This is actual BS. I hate how third party publishers are always cowards about admitting things are yuri.
>>4525575>Yachiyo cannot eat or taste food and saying she could never bear with that tortureI actually genuinely cringe in pain at that line on every rewatch. Though considering she used to not be able to taste anything on the moon, Kaguya sorta just went back to her original life.
No... NooooooHow have I NEVER realized this on my rewatches? Oh my god anons!! Kaguya was writing down easy recipes for Iroha so she wouldnt just live off instant food and energy drinks after kaguya leaves! And that note that I thought Iroha had written about not using ketchup and mayo? That is in KAGUYA'S handwriting!!!!Kaguya is literally feeding Iroha with the best handmade food for the whole movie. I love that Kaguya is the one with the domestic skills despite being the wild one. And she wanted her girlfriend to keep eating healthy. I'm seriosuly tearing up right now...
I've been listening to piano covers more often. It is still too powerful to use as background music but it is a step up since I was getting emotional fatigue from crying over the original ost. I can't help but be pulled into memories of the scene it was used in.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sVE6LSly9ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K34BhQrTz0o
I think people don't give this movie enough credit for its excellent use of red herrings.First trailer shows only baby and child Kaguya -> people think it's a story about a high school girl raising a childBig brother appears as an antagonist named Mikado who immediately asks to marry Kaguya -> people think he is either the love interest or the major antagonistIroha figures out that her father's melody and Yachiyo's debut song have the same tune -> people automatically associate Yachiyo with Iroha's dad and theorize that he made Yachiyo's AI or somethingThey show you Kaguya's spaceship several times before showing Yachiyo's spaceship in the water tank -> people assume Yachiyo is another Lunarian who escaped the moon and might know how to get Kaguya backIroha says she still wants to do something to get a happy ending, it immediately cuts to a concert -> people assume she wants to be Yachiyo's producerIt's great how every twist could be explained in another way before its revealed.
It's funny to think that in this world people might actually make doujins of KaguIro and they can buy smut books about themselves lol
>>4525794Piano Reply is actually really pretty.
>>4525794very nice actually, makes me appreciate the best songs even more
>TsukuyomiTube>Tuskuyomi mailPlus the "AI" chats and Tsukuyomi's Fuju currency that can be used irl, Yachiyo really had Iroha in the palm of her hands.
The great debate.
>>4525564They post on /a/
Finally got around to watching this. Definitely worth it 10/10 yuri of the year already (I will hold out hope we get even better though). Trawling the threads for fanart was vital support while coming down from blubbering like a moron the last 30 minutes. Glad I didn't get spoiled on it.Praying that it does well and we get some more Kaguya crumbs and more yuri funding in general.My rando notes I made while watching, all stuff anons have already pointed out I'm surelewd as fuck "handshake" wtfsleeping together very cutethis concert is just 3p flirtingI love you into jokey proposal felt pretty genuineFireworks festival, really crossing all the checkboxes for romance huh. Nice shipper friends!The parallel between Iroha's mom losing her husband and Iroha losing Kaguya, very subtle (not)"Love at first sight" jesusDamn that's a lot of "I love you"Also I love how the background stream agegap comment by yachiyo early on has completely different meanings on first watch and after!
>>4525852Running this through shitty ocr translation made one very unexpected result.
YachiyoCheers~Iroha, you’ve been drinking alone a lot latelyYaccho's worried!Huh? But I’m drinking with you, aren’t I?!We're together but Yaccho is not drinking~!…It’s kinda cute how she gets mad for me.my oshi Irohaa
>>4525853It's about ship names right?
>>4525862The age gap thing is too funny. Makes it seem like its about child Kaguya and teen Iroha, but its actuall Yachiyo yapping about how she wants to be in an age gap relationahip with Iroha herself lolYou should check out the Light Novel or at least the stuff anons posted about it here. Iroha is like 120% gayer in the LN, because we get all her inner thoughts. She explicitely says she is in love with Kaguya etc.
>>4525852I kinda like the idea that Yaccho specifically made a way to earn/use in game money irl specifically for struggling Iroha.
>>4525862Wait, have you watched the epilogue MV in the OP yet? Just the movie isnt enough. There ia extra content!
>>4525777The anime made her a gremlin but in the LN it was clear she has grown to be pretty dependable and not only was a good emotional support for Iroha, she took good care of Iroha too.Honestly they should have cut the entire Kassen battle to focus on some other details from the LN. Damn Shingo and his hardon for Summar War.
>>4525951Kaguya being a dependable partner comes across perfectly fine in the movie too. She's exuberant but never does anything that could jeopardize Iroha's living conditions after the one time she wastes her money on another pair of VR contacts. She cooks for her, takes proper care of her when she's sick, splits the bills, stops being too pushy, is caring about Iroha's needs and understanding about her family issues.>they should have cut the entire Kassen battleHell no, it's fun, expands the setting and is also part of their relationship development by showing how deeply they've come to understand each other.
>>4525953Kaguya only gives off dependable vibe in the movie after Iroha got sick. The impression before that was that she literally pushed Iroha to the brink, disregarding Iroha living space and overworked her with streaming stuff. Before that the movie didnt do well to portray her as a good partner at all.
>>4525964Literally the first scene after Kaguya's smartcon blunder was her making an elaborate meal for Iroha and making her eat something healthy for the first time in months. Even if Iroha despaired at the price, the good foos actually cheered her up. The theme continues with Kaguya asking what Iroha wants for dinner in the montage.Kaguya also encourages Iroha to play music again, something she had a mental block for until then, finally freeing her from that torment. When Iroha refuses to appear publically in the limelight on eventa, Kaguya gets her a fox costume to lower her anxiety. And from the get-go Kaguya wants a happy ending for the stubborn Iroha too. She's dragging her out of her comfort zone (which was actually self-imposed jail). Iroha's trying to do both and being unable to say no is what leads to her collaps. I dont think Kaguya really understood how much Iroha pushed herself until then, but ahe cares.
I finally watched this. I liked it, but I honestly didn't understand what was happening during most of the battle scenes. I might need to watch it again>>4525589I'm surprised you needed to look at the cast list. They both have very distinct voices>>4525890Yes
>>4525970Kassen is easier to follow if you're familiar with MOBAs like League of Legends. They don't explain the rules that well in dialogue, there's a screen with the detailed rules that pops up at one point but it's quick and mirrored.
>>4525970Ai Fairouz is one of the most vocally flexible VAs out there. I guarantee she can do completely different performances that sound nothing alike.
>>4525970I will just tell you right bow, you should rewatch the movie regardless. This is 100% a movie you need to rewatch to get the most out of it. If you are still confused by the Kassen scenes I am sure we can explain it to you anon, though try watching it one more time first.
>>4525127You think that's crazy? Let me tell ya the super secret special lore: Ya know why Kaguya is a rabbit in VR? It's because in Japanese mythology there are moon rabbits making mochi. Kaguya is from the moon so she is a rabbit. Mind blown or what? ~(ovo)~
>>4525818I never thought any of these thinga desu. Maybe my brain was too slow to come up with anything, but I just kinda took the twists as they came without making any guesses.
>>4525983It was all an elaborate ruse to get to suckle Iroha's rohas?!
"Iroha. Let's do it."
>>4525990Well the obvious aside, I wonder what Iroha being a fox is about. Kitsune are shapeshifters and whimsical and highly vicious at times, but I don't exactly see the connection. Maybe because she is clever?
>>4526040Kitsune are servants of moon gods. Or maybe Shingo really likes Zootopia.
>>4526047Really? I dont remember Inari being a moon god.
>>4526053Where's part 3?
>>4526054I think that's the third one. Pic related is the first one, and the second one is somewhere above.
>>4526057Don't see any part 2.
It was so good I've been watching it everyday and now I feel empty as fuck. what can I watch or read while waiting for the lightnovel?
>>4526161just MTL it, maybe it's because I'm an ESL but it read fine for me.
>>4526165It's not about the translation, I feel empty because I need more good Yuri and I don't want to start reading random stuff and end up with something like Citrus
>>4526187If you're into supernatural/urban fantasy you can try reading Here Stands Gokumon Nadeshiko
>>4526203Great recommendation. I'm still reading this myself. The main pair's relationship is extremely precious. Sadly the TL for the second volume is just poor MTL quality. The first one's reads like a human actually translated and QC'd it. The second volume's TL constantly finds new ways to translate terms that already appeared a dozen times in the same chapter or randomly switches to "he" for girls. It's a shame that my Japanese isn't on the level where I could read it raw at a sane pace as this stuff gets pretty involved with references to mythology and Japanese/Chinese history.
>>4526203I searched for it in the novel thread but the reader linked is cancer (who the fuck wants to keep scrolling between LN chapters), is there a better place to read it?
>>4526266There used to be but it got taken down, as far as I know that is the only place to read the LN. You could try the manga, but it's is way behind>>4526257Yeah, volume 2 is such a huge downgrade
>>4526165MTL isn't good though. Even an ESL should be able to tell. It's barely good enough to convey the idea, but it's trash. Might as well read a summary with wrong pronouns awkward phrasing and iindisernable garbage area of nonsense you need to figure out through context of what you know about the movie.
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>>4525777>I love that Kaguya is the one with the domestic skills despite being the wild oneI think one of the best parts of IroKagu's dynamic is that they are both incredibly high spec girls, but they are completely complementary to each other. They have almost no overlap in their skills, so they perfectly slot into each other like puzzel pieces.Iroha is good at making music and playing it, but she can't (or doesnt want to) sing. Kaguya is the one who sings her songs and gives them life.Iroha can't cook beyond the basics and doesn't have time to either, so she only eats fast food and drink energy drinks. Meanwhile Kaguya has an innate 5 star chef soul and loves cooking and challenging herself with new dishes, providing for Iroha.Kaguya is terrible at time management, learning rules or going through the logic of things, so Iroha grounds her and gets things organized.Kaguya is decent at the combat in Kassen, but she is mostly just using instinct, while Iroha is clearly por gamer level and much better at the game as it is meant to be played. But in return Kaguya comes up without out of the box strategies because she doesnt really care to be good at how the game is "meant" to be played. They synergize greatly because of that.Kaguya is the emotional core of the relationship, while Iroha is the bedrock. If Iroha couldn't keep up with kaguya's wild needs and follow through with her unreasonable side, it wouldn't work. But if Kaguya wasn't pushing and expressing her feelings honestly (which Iroha cant) the relationship wouldnt work either.Holy shit, Iroha is right handed and Kaguya is left handed. They just complement each other in every way.
It's not just me that finds Yachiyo incredibly selfish, sociopathic and cruel, right?
>>4526363Bait used to be believable.
>>4525124Speaking of MV, was that Kaguya in the ashes of Hiroshima/Nagasaki?
>>4526364This is not bait, this is my honest opinion. Please think back to every instance of suffering that Iroha went through and then wonder to yourself why Yachiyo didn't help her
>>4526365Could have been any random war. The point is that she saw the horrors of human warfare and people's futures being snuffed out.
>>4526369Thanks for preventing WW2, Yachiyo! ARIGATO
>>4526367So you have the media literacy of a shrimp. Moving on.
>>4526371Hey I appreciate you taking the time to articulate your point in a constructive and informative manner!
>>4526370She didnt even know it was a thing dumbass. How is some sealsug gonna prevent war? No seriously, do you have brain damage? You seem to try reaaally hard to give this story a spin it doesn't have, even if you have to bend the fabric of reality to get there.>>4526372You have made no real point, so you don't get to be treated like you did. I am done with your shitposts. How boring.
>>4526373Did you forget that Yachiyo had time traveled and had all of Kaguya's memories? So she knew exactly how miserable, depressed and suicidal Iroha was. She also had unlimited ability to interact with Iroha (via Tsukuyomi, chatbot or even IRL using augmented reality) and vast finances. I'm curious, you seem to understand something I don't, can you explain why she wasn't able to help Iroha?
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>>4526374Ok, I'll bite, just this once and please try not to be a moron. This is gonna be long so use your brain.The time loop starts when Iroha sings a song to Kaguya and she comes back from the moon. Kaguya falls around 6000BC, You know what was happening with humanity back then? Fucking nothing. She falls into despair and hopes for Yachiyo to come and save her, probably because she hopes Yachiyo is a lunarian like herself and not just a robot.Yachiyo obviously doesn't come and Kaguya, through Fushi, starts her long waiting journey back to Iroha. Kaguya tells her story through the ages, recieving help and empathy from other people and witnessing the best and the worst of humanity. At some point in the late 1900 she finally figures out that she was supposed to be Yachiyo and that she's stuck in this closed time loop. She also accepts the role Yachiyo had, which is someone who smiles and bears it for the sake of more important things, just like all the brave people she met through time. The internet is suddenly real, Kaguya logs in, becomes a channer, a chatbot, goes into Niconico until Tsukuyomi can exist.One of the first things Kaguya does when she wakes up as Yachiyo is sing her debut song. She sings it until she's sure Iroha has heard her, Iroha hears this song sometime around 2020 when her dad dies. This song saves her. In the MV there's a small scene where little Iroha is chatting with Yachiyo about her troubles. Kaguya is there for her as comforting figure because that's what Iroha needs. Iroha doesn't need money until she moves out.
>>4526374"Why doesn't Yachiyo just give Iroha a billion yen? Is she stupid?"
>>4526386Yachiyo literally can't send money to Iroha and pull her out of poverty for two reasons, first Iroha's issue is that she basically ran away from Home to not deal with her mother, she's living life in hard mode because she's a pushover, money would have made it worse and second, because it's a closed time loop, the fact that she exists means that everything already happened, she can't change Iroha's life because that would be changing her own past which already happened. Kaguya falls as a baby when Iroha is poor and tired as fuck, it can't be changed, Yachiyo is just an spectator and does whatever she can to be as close to Iroha as possible, makes songs for her, handshake events, streams stuff that's súper coincidentally just what Iroha needs to hear. Not only does she help Iroha until Kaguya arrives as a baby, she was ready to let go when Kaguya left for the loop so Iroha wouldn't have to suffer more
>>4526386>>4526389Thanks for your reply. However, accepting your role and smiling and bearing how things are is exactly the opposite of the theme of the movie. Iroha is doing that in her life and it's destroying her, it takes Kaguya to come along and shake her out of the rut. Yachiyo has foreknowledge, she has power and opportunity and there is absolutely no reason why she couldn't change the future to help Iroha - she'd already shown the initiative to do exactly that by time traveling in the first place. "Closed time loop" is made up nonsense, Yachiyo simply chose to go along with how Kaguya remembered things for her own convenience. >money would have made it worseHow? If Iroha had money she wouldn't need to stress over budgeting, or use her time and energy at a shitty casual job. Or even if Yachiyo didn't send her money she could have easily befriended Iroha and helped her emotionally, Iroha kept her anxieties and stress secret from her friends so having someone she could confide in would have been a massive help.And I see making the song, streaming etc as the absolute bare minimum of "help" that just kept Iroha alive long enough to meet Kaguya. I don't know about you but there is no way I would be content to just spectate as the person I was in love with suffered from depression and collapsing from stress and over work.Yachiyo showed that she could effortlessly defeat the moon people, but she was suspiciously absent from Kaguya's graduation battle. She could even have given Iroha and her friends the same or better cheat abilities that Mikaido used, or just straight up made them invincible. Yachiyo just waited for Kaguya to be out of the picture so she could fulfill the conditions for Kaguya to time travel and then so she could be happy. Christ sakes she could have even warned Kaguya about the asteroid and prevent the accident in the first place.
This retard doesn't understand the movie or can even remotely think for himself. Ignore him. He literally baited with "x character is actually a sociopath" meme bait and then did the "why did character not prevent WW2" follow up bait. He is not real.
>>4526398Yeah it is one thing to misunderstand the time travel since it can be a lot on the first viewing. But to fundamentally refuse to accept how this time travel worked and use that as justification to intentionally misinterpret the rest of the story is a new one to see.
>>4526399So Yachiyo was somehow prevented from doing anything differently? Her actions were controlled?
>>4526395Wow, you truly are a moron, this is not back to the figure or Madoka where every change creates a new timeline, this is just one loop, Kaguya travels back in time because she always did. Yachiyo can't change her own past, the past can't be changed. If Iroha had one more yen in her account at the beggining of the movie it would be changing Yachiyo's past too. It's not going to change because you don't like it.Why don't you go watch Dark SO You can see what a loop is like? Then go bother /tv/And you're right the movie is not about bearing it, which is why Iroha takes Kaguya to a true happy ending.
>>4526395>"Closed time loop" is made up nonsense, Yachiyo simply chose to go along with how Kaguya remembered things for her own convenience.>send Iroha money>she no longer has to work herself to the bone at a job>she is not coming home late at night anymore>isn't there when Kaguya's ship lands late at night and the telephone pole is altered>never meets Kaguya, someone else does>Kaguya fails to stay on earth, ends up back on the moon where there's no Iroha song to wake her up>Kaguya never goes back in the past>Yachiyo never exists>and so could never have sent her money in the first placeNice one, retard.>omg she didn't even help Kaguya's side win the battle!>win battle>Kaguya never goes to the moon or comes back>Yachiyo never exists>Tsukuyomi never gets made>Kaguya and Iroha never bond over Tsukuyomi stuff, Kaguya lives a pretty normal life and then gets sent back to the moonNice one, retard.
>>4526402>>4526401It being some kind of unalterable loop is just an assumption. Yachiyo never tried to change anything.
>>4526400You have probably read or at least heard about stories where star crossed lovers were fated to reunite. The question of free will isn't really that they can't decide for themselves, but that anything Kaguya does or decides to do as Yachiyo already happened. If she tried to give money to Iroha, something would have intervened to prevent it because Iroha never received anything from Yachiyo like that. In the context of the story Iroha and Kaguya never truly part, only Kaguya has the misfortune of spending so much time in the past. If you truly want to understand it read the wiki for a bootstrap paradox since it does a good job explaining the concept.
>>4525395https://kuji-cliffe.com/lp/Cho_KaguyaHimekuji/The merch was revealed and it is all the same art used for various tiers of junk items. I'd pay 770 yen for the mini art with the 3 of them on it but the rest of it is just uninspired poses slapped onto template gacha prizes. It's crazy they didn't make the 3p pose a tapestry or acrylic tier prize. Disappointing but not surprising since this is how most of these kuji events are run.
>>4526395Iroha has been living alone for a combined 3 months at the start of the movie. She has barely suffered that much by the point Kaguya arrives. Yachiyo already knows Kaguya will save Iroha, so there is actually very little time where Iroha has to suffer "alone".And here is the kicker, Yachiyo has been there for Iroha the entire time she needed her. There is a reason iroha says Yachiyo is the reason she kept living, that her song saved her life. Yachiyo made the song that was based on her father's melody for her. She made a conultation chat where she actively listend to Iroha's troubles and gave her life advice to reduce her suffering, even before Iroha moved out. She made Tsukuyomi as a way for people like Iroha to enjoy life and get away from their troubles. She made it so you can even use in-game currency to pay for stuff in real life.You say Yachiyo has huge monetary ressources, but that is clearly not true, considering she cant even fund her own robot body research for Iroha in the epilogue. She is clearly using all money to maintain Tsukuyomi, which is not a predatory money drain scheme unlike all other mass multitplayer platforms, because Yachiyo made it to help suffering people and creators in the first place. Her scope has extended far beyond Iroha.No, Yachiyo could not "defeat" the Lunarians, she could just delay them. If she stopped them in Tsukuyomi they would either destroy Tsukuyomi or damage the real world seriously until Kaguya is handed over. Lunarians could hack every piece of technology in the real world easily. They could make society collapse on a whim.>>4526400>>4526403You dont get it. Any change she makes would automatically undo her own existence, which would mean she could never do the thing that changed the timeline in the first place. This is a time travel paradox. Because Yachiyo's existence is intrinsically tied to such incredibly specific events, you cannot alter anything involving Iroha or the paradox will trigger.
>>4526408>Any change she makes would automatically undo her own existence, which would mean she could never do the thing that changed the timeline in the first place.Is there any evidence of that whatsoever?
>>4526410Use your brain. It's like a simple equation is beyond you. Any meaningful change in Iroha's life will prevent the events of the movie to happen, which will mean Yachiyo doesn't exist anymore, which means Yachiyo never made the change in the first place. This is simple fucking logic. If you don't understand what time travel paradoxes are, then read up on them. This is my last reponse to this inane point.
Here is a little animation that I can't save without using some dumb other site to convert it because twitter sucks.https://x.com/dondondon007/status/2020491610258071910
>>4526411I understand paradoxes quite fine, thank you, but it's just pure assumption. If time travel was even possible nobody knows how it works, or what effect changing past events would have. Not only does the film not state how time travel works in the setting Yachiyo makes no attempt or give any explanation on changing events.For example, let's say Yachiyo lost her memory of how she ended up time traveling and so could therefore not follow the predetermined course of events. Given her personality and love for Iroha, would she sit back willingly while Iroha suffered and be content with not pursuing a relationship with her? An emphatic no. Therefore, only her knowledge of events constrained her actions, not any kind of cosmic law preventing it.
>>4526415>if time travel was even possible none of us would know how it works!>literal time traveler from a race who can time travel says it's a closed loop that can't be changedFirst you claim nobody can know because we cannot time travel to find out, but you also claim that the ones who can time travel can't know, because we don't know. Pretty fucking stupid.It's almost like you either use logic, which leads to time travel paradoxes or you believe the fucking character who knows more than you. Either way you failed.
>>4526417>literal time traveler from a race who can time travel says it's a closed loop that can't be changedWas that stated in the film? Can you give me a time because I'd be happy if this was stated
>>4526415It doesn't need to state how time travel works because it assumes you will have the intelligence to figure it out.The timeline was always like this. Theres are no "what if" Yachiyo and Iroha are chained by fate like a greek myth. Even Yachiyo says it's a cycle when she tells Iroha the truth
>>4526418In addition, she is saying this about the Kaguya who is on the moon right now, not even time traveling yet. This means she considers this unchangable fate and as the only source on how time travel works, this is simply the only info you can believe, especially because this is the writer speaking through Yachiyo. This is the intended way time travel works in this story. It's a stable loop. Hence why the solution is to go beyond the loop for the happy ending.
>>4526420Sure if that's how it has to be. I would have liked to have that presented visually, perhaps a short sequence of Yachiyo detailing her attempts to escape the cycle. As it stands it just sounds like her giving up. Thanks for your time.
>>4526412Twitter is true ass yes
>>4526421I get your frustation but there are not even attempts to escape in a paradox like Homura did in Madoka Mágica. Kaguya did what she could to reach Iroha so they could have a happy end and chickened out because she thought she was too old.
So Iroha just hangs out with Yachiyo (in Kaguya avatar) and a Yachiyo copy/actual AI program in Tsukuyomi now?
>>4526433Nobody is sure (assuming you mean after the epilogue ray MV), but until the MV's events happen it's assumed Yachiyo is just running the Kaguyabot and her Tsukuyomi avatar simultaneously.
>>4526438That's kinky my guy
>>4526444I don't understand anons who use spoiler tags for non-spoilers.
>>4526433>>4526433I'm pretty sure the Yachiyo from the final concert was created a week ago so 8000 year old Yachiyo is in the Kaguya body. So I vote that the new Yachiyo is an actual AI
>>4526456Or did only a copy of Yachiyo get put into the Kaguya body, so original Yachiyo is actually still in Tsukiyomi?
>>4526456I'm pretty sure that was just a joke about how it had been 8000 years since she performed as "Kaguya" but had done a concert as "Yachiyo" just a week or so ago
>>4526456>>4526461Not this again... by the end of the movie Kaguya's soul from her shaceship is controlling the Kaguyabot but she clearly does this remotely through Tsukuyomi, which is why the original Yachiyo is also still there. Yachiyo can make copies of herself, this is nothing new. That's why she can hold a concert as both Kaguya and Yachiyo at the same time.It only gets complicated in the epilogue MV where they bury the spaceship and Kaguya allegedly becomes "fully human", whatever that means. By that point the Yachiyo in Tsukuyomi might really be just a simulation or it's Kaguya logging in as Yachiyo.
>>4526361>Kaguya is left handedI never noticed that... Maybe this movie has TOO MANY details.
But how did Iroha know how to model the Kaguya bot's pussy and anus accurately?
>>4526477She just went for her own preferences. Which is probably why she made her tits bigger.
>>4525115I'm shocked nobody has mentioned this from the Guidebook yet, but they point out that the reason Fushi acts so abrasive and tundere is because it would be crying nonstop otherwise while interacting with young Kaguya and Iroha.
>>4526478Damn, Iroha isn't a lolicon?
>>4526483...she was crushing on Yachiyo from the start. Also Kaguya isn't a loli.
>>4526474Is it possible to love a movie too much? Let's find out.>>4526482I figured it had to be something like that since it was pretty obvious that it was putting up a front being abrasive right from the very beginning when I rewatched for the first time. Then when Iroha says she'll search the whole world to find Kaguya. Fushi wasn't alone in that feeling, and the tsun act is shattered. Now I want a fushi plushie
The special feeling meme is still alive and well
>>4526512Or maybe it's this way around?
>>4526482Right before Kaguya starts her goodbye concert, when Yachiyo says "Everything will turn out fine, that's a Yaccho guarantee", you can see Fushi tearing up for a few frames.
>>4526474Credit to some guy on twitter: Iroha and Kaguya used to have two toothbrushes in Iroha's old apartment, but when Yachiyo recreates it for her story there's only one, likely because she doesn't consider herself to be Iroha's Kaguya anymore until Iroha rebukes her.
>>4526516I think Yachiyo recreated that one-room appartment as it was on the day where Iroha took her in, which means there was only one toothrush at that point. The room is exactly as it was before Kaguya invaded with all her 100-yen store stuff after all.
>>4526516Was this the profile pic Kaguya was showing off in her socials? She's basically displaying that she is living with a partner.
>>4526474The LN mentions that when they ate at the table together that first time, Iroha feels like instead of being left handed, Kaguya was merely mirroring her. Not sure if this really comes across in the anime since Kaguya is already holding the spork in her left hand before Iroha eats.
>>4526543Considering Kaguya does basically everything with her left hand, including writing, playing guitar and holding cooking utensils, I think it's fair to say she is in fact left handed. Ambidextrous with a preference at the very least.
>>4526543>>4526544Even back on the moon Kaguya writes with her left hand.
Kaguya noticed Iroha gets a wrinkle, so she freaks out about her dying... and in response Iroha turns herself into a cyborg.Guess this artist doesn't share the view that Kaguya becomes human with a limited lifespan.Iroha totally would do this though to make Kaguya worry less.
Uh yeah... I assume they are going to use the condoms or whatever for their fingers. It's a thing, even if rare, in some lesbian sex. I would say it's because of their usually long nails, but this artist did go out of their way to draw them wirth short fingernails.
>>4525990>in Japanese mythology there are moon rabbits making mochi. Kaguya is from the moon so she is a rabbit.That's not all, rabbits on the moon pound mochi with a mallet, and that's why Kaguya's weapon in Tsukuyomi is a hammer.Same reason a lot of bunny figures in japanese media are associated with hammers, such as Erina in Rabi Ribi, or Kyouka in Usagi wa Kaku Katariki, but it's more on point here since she's from the moon herself.
>>4526548Which makes Yachiyo's sea themed design also more interesting. She rejects her moon ancestry and instead was "reborn" in mother ocean. So all about her is themed around the deep sea.It was already mentioned during the MV discussion, but Tsukuyomi changing from night to day and Yahi/Kagu's moon hair piece being replaced by the sun (that which gives life on Earth) is basically the same thing. Moving on from the moon.
I actually have a slightly different interpretation of 星降る海 than the one that I usually see, in that I think Yachiyo isn't actually singing just to Iroha, but also at least in part to Kaguya, and I'm curious if anyone else thinks it might be more than just reaching.>Many thousand years, All this time I've waited, And now, The day we meet is finally hereThe only first meeting here is actually Yachiyo and Kaguya, we know Yachiyo and Iroha have already met and interacted before this>And see how even on the darkest path,The moon shines down to light our way, There, on the shore of the sea, Can you smell the salt in the air, And feel me standing right there with you. Cause forever more, I promise somewhere out there, I'll still be watching over youShe's singing, not just to just the Kaguya here and now, but to the Kaguya after she crashes to Earth on the shore in the past, who will have just started down a dark 8,000 year path, but Yachiyo is saying that she can do it, that Yachiyo herself can look back on her past and know that Kaguya can make it through>So please, Keep laughing from the depths of your heart, And please, Keep gathering those bright happy days, And there in the future you make, You and I, Can feel our hearts light up with joyNote that it's not Iroha that is laughing the vast majority of the time, but Kaguya. Yachiyo is telling Kaguya to enjoy this time to the fullest, to gather up as much happiness as she can, so that in the future, the two of them, or rather, the unification of them, can feel the joy of being with Iroha.
>>4526579 (me)>We'll make it happen now, It's time to let our story beginLiterally she's singing of the time when her own story begins, both as Kaguya at the very start of her story, and the start of being able to see what comes next as Yachiyo.Put together, she's encouraging Kaguya to come dance and sing with her, so that she can make Kaguya's short time with Iroha as full of happiness as possible, to build up that store of love and happy memories that she knows will be all Kaguya will have to fall back on her 8,000 year journey to becoming Yachiyo
So there are three Kaguyas now? The Kaguya being time displaces, RoboKaguya and Yachiyo?Also, was the fuckhuge asteroid passing between the Moon and Earth (in astronomical terms, it's disastrously close) mentioned before it appeared?
>>4526585>So there are three Kaguyas now? The Kaguya being time displaces, RoboKaguya and Yachiyo?In a sense. After the timeskip there's pre-time travel Kaguya currently working on the moon and post-time travel Kaguya inside the android body. The virtual Yachiyo shouldn't count as a fully separate being from the latter, it's just a copy.>asteroidNo, but that happens 80 years later so it's normal it wouldn't be mentioned during the story.
>>4526580Remember that during the main concert after the Cup, Yachiyo's speech was about how she wants to make memories of this day that she will forever remember, even in the darkest times. The self she is talking about here is obviously present Kaguya.The songs are towards Iroha, but that speech was definitely meant for her younger self.
>>4526568From baby to bae.
I hope Kaguya was able to wait most of the time in China because nothing happens in Japan until around around 600BC8000 years is an insane amount of time, I'm glad Iroha was a top tier girlfriend and her only quality was not "being nice" like a lot of Japanese media
>>4526617It honestly feels like it was meant to be 800 years originally (that's also where the Kaguya myth allegedly originated). Maybe Shibgo went for 8000 years because it was more dramatic? But in every flashback except the first one it's always about much latter Japanese history, when shit actually happens. I think 800 years would have made the most sense narratively, but that doesnt work with the name Yachiyo.
>>4526617>nothing happens in Japan until around around 600BCNothing that we know of. For all we know, historians and writers of the time decided to edit was going on because it'd be too unbelievable for the future people.Wish they had been like Roman historians, who wrote a general fighting a dragon on his way to Carthage and didn't give two shits if people believed them or not.
>>4526548They even show rabbits pounding mochi when the scene transitions using her eyes. The sheer amount of attention in each second of animation make me really curious how much budget they were given for this movie.>>4526579Every time I watched it I cried during the songs for different reasons because the perspective of the story shifts and deepens every time. It works from every angle, Yachiyo singing to Iroha, to Kaguya, Yachiyo singing as Kaguya. It is incredible how many ways they can be interpreted. This movie absolutely took full advantage of its medium in using its animation, music, and voice acting to tell its story but the music stands out in how it elevates the narrative on each rewatch.>>4526587We may as well extrapolate that Kaguya's ship pinging off the side of the deadly space rock helped divert its course just enough to prevent an extinction level event.
>>4526665Or the "asteroid" was in fact tiny, as Kaguya's ship seems to be very small.
Manga vol 1https://www.mediafire.com/file_premium/ny92mc40figpq1y/Kaguya_Manga_vol_1.zip/file
>>4526672The full raw volume is already out? Sweet. Hope the TL will also get to it soon then. Though I kinda prefered if they prioritized the LN.
>>4526617>I'm glad Iroha was a top tier girlfriend and her only quality was not "being nice" like a lot of Japanese mediaIroha is the real catch honestly, Kaguya is incredibly sweet and devoted but peculiar background aside she's by far the more "normal" girl of the two while Iroha is some once-in-a-generation ace.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=356MRZ6P5h0>3.7 million viewsWhy does youtube only show me the number of times I watched it now instead of the global total?>>4526743Watching the MVs then looking at fanart like this extends my life.
What's the reason that the english title is cosmic, but jp uses chou which is just super? CPK appears to even uses the english title's word order.
Talk me out of buying a magazine for a couple page spread with interviews that are probably just more fluff pieces
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>>4526819Can't post the other picture with the photo cards it comes with because it has the onyx cast too. But the other bonus is the handshake ticket which is mainly why I want to buy it. Even though I could probably just print it out myself.
>>4526817The next page it's gonna be a promotion for some hetshit otome isekai garbage about the straightest villainess to ever exist
>>4526822Of course it's just a promo magazine with tons of other popular things in it. But kaguya is one of the highlighted items for the issue since it gets a slot for bonus insert items which shows it is at least not an afterthought. Anyway here is the link to buy it if anyone wants to get one.https://www.animate-onlineshop.jp/pn/pd/3367270/
>>4526787Feels like the last two finger shapes and actions are reversed. But then nobody scissors before kissing. Not that the danbooru bot would even know what it posts.
>>4526812Because "Super Kaguyahime" sounds really dumb in English.
>>4526829You dumbass bot... >>4526743
>>4526705So I was watching one of those terrible (in a good way) niche JP youtube shitpost videos. Those that use the really bad text to speech voices and also some AI voices to have fake discussions with themselves (or based on some real chat they had with friends). The video was about Iroha in CPK. Basically the video was powerscaling Iroha and building up just how absurd and superhuman she is. By the end she was compared to superpowered shounen protagonists and got all her feats listed. They were also shocked a female protagonist was the most perfect superman ever made.Some of the highlights were that she is perfect at every subject at school, athletic, only needs 3 hours of sleep, is a pro gamer despite only playing recreationally, capable of going into the best university for a law course and instead being able to just swtich to the sciences, which requires a completely different exam, without dropping grades. She is also a perfect beauty despite eating garbage and not sleeping enough.Then she also somehow managed to survive taking in 8000 years worth of memories and information in what could only have been a few minutes, didn't die from the feedback and when she woke up she was not brain damaged or even changed at all by the millenia of suffering and PTSD. Then she just casually revolutionizes robotics and makes a perfect android in 10 years somehow.They also talked about her entire family line is full of superhumans, to the point where god had to nerf their bloodline by making the children gay. One of the responses was "Same sex partners can't have children? That sounds like something a weakling would think." They already considered that Iroha would just randomly switch to biology and start finish iPS research or find some kind of soul technology to make kids. Nothing can stop her.The funniest part of all was that everyone agrees that without a protag this high spec it would have been impossible to get a happy ending for the Bamboo Cutter tale.
>>4526820Close enough.
>>4526876I was planning on using some existing 3d print files and altering it to match the tsukuyomi torii since it would be very easy and there's nothing unique about the shrine design. If I manage to get a hold of that acrylic that comes out in May I'll try it, but that is so far away. I'd prefer making stuff to put Kaguya and Iroha in their room as a diorama, or a nice scale figure of them doing something together. If only the production company in charge of merch wasn't being too stingy and making the good items they made impossible to get online, then I wouldn't need to daydream.
My most replayed tracks on the OST are 4 - Borrowed Motherhood, and 14 - Special Someone. It has been more than two weeks and I still spend all my time thinking about this movie.
>>4526883"Gently Fading Radiance" (aka fireworks theme) and "Moonlight Serenade" (aka Iroha going through Yachiyo's memories) are definitely the standouts to me.
Is there a reason Kaguya is so obssessed with crabs?
So a few more details I noticed... when someone said Tsukuyomi went from night to day in the epilogue I was like "But there was already daylight in Kaseen?" but I somehow never realized.... the giant anglerfish are the ones who illuminate the arena with their headlights!Also tiger motorcycles Black onyX rdie... are actual tigers holding wheels. When they get off the tigers drop the wheels and just walk off lmao
Introvert Iro-P hiding behind her extrovert girlfriend is peak yuri.
So I noticed something that feels like an inconsistency, but this movie is too well thought out for that to be the case... When the Lunarians first attack after the concert, the date displayed on the hacked screen is the 12th of September.But in the scene afterwards where Roka and Mami tell Iroha to go to the fireworks festival it starts on the 1st of September.So I wondered why the timeline is so inconsistent... could it be the Lunarians were actually announcing when they would take Kaguya back to the moon? It seemed like they were seriously attempting to take her back, but that makes it look like they were merely delivering the message. After all Kaguya knew the exact date of her extraction after this.Also in the split second where Kaguya gets mindfucked, you can pause and see a coding screen which basically retells chunks of the Bamboo Cutter tale. It's insane to put this much detail in a single frame...And there is more. There is no blood in Tsukuyomi, yet the Lunarian drone's arm gets cut off with ink black blood, further driving home that they are outsiders that shouldnt be here.
>>4526893Yeah, the date is likely why Yachiyo and the others framed the invasion as Kaguya's graduation live since they were pretending it was all part of the performance.
>>4526886It's associated with the moon in a similar way to rabbits.
>>4526895Moon crabs? That's news to me.
>>4526892It's cute how proud Kaguya is every time Iroha gets praised by others. She gets jealous when Iroha pays attention to others (mainly Yachiyo), but she is always happy when others are obssessed with Iroha. It's like she's thinking "finally you understand how awesome my wife is".
Speaking of Iroha getting popular
>>4526898Yachiyo abusing mod priviliges is my favorite thing in fan comics.
>>4526893It the novel they confirm it more clearly that the date shown by the lunarians is indeed the day they will be coming for Kaguya. Also as you would expect from a movie with this much care for details that date is also predicted to be a full moon in real life too if you look it up.
The amount of perverse joy that fan artists get out of torturing poor Roka is legendary...
>>4526893>>4526901Wanna see a magic trick? Try adding 1,680 (Iroha) days to the date when they announced the theatrical release.
>>4525452Shiroshi-sensei also got indoctrinated. Kinda expected of the mangaka who is making the Roid manga.She immediately made a really good fan comic strip too https://x.com/shirofox/status/2020854026066166264/photo/1
>>4526905Ok, this must be a coincidence. There isnt really much logic linking these things at all, and if you gotta add a zero you just ruin the 168 thing. I'm more concerned for whoever even thought of checking this.
>>4526908I would think it has to be coincidence, though ending zeroes are sometimes ignored in goroawase so that's not really a point against it. They've been doing it themselves when the twitter account reached 168,000 followers or the youtube account 294,300 (tsu-ku-yo-mi) subs.
>>4526743Is MILKTEA also a well known yuri artist? They only seem to be doing yuri fanart from what I see, but the skill is too professional.
Are you freaking SERIOUS? The crescent moon on kaguya's outfit was a CUTOUT the entire time??? How did I not notice that on 5 rewatches?? It shows her navel in several scenes even.
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>>4526918I saw this on X over the weekend but forgot to mention it, it's hilarious, those are details that aren't always obvious, probably in an official reference book this will be clearer along with some other details.But it's even funnier that there are probably ulterior motives behind that design on Kaguya's part, and we all know what I mean by that.
>>4526889That's a good point. I was wondering why they used the anglerfish.>>4526893They invaded to remind Kaguya of her duties on the moon and that's why when Yachiyo told the lunarians to be patient they apologized for the disruption. We also see the lunarian messengers just hanging around their apartment after this and they aren't trying to do anything. They weren't taking her back when that messenger grabbed her arm and we see later that a full fledged royal delegation would be tasked to transport her back. This is also why her eyes go dull because the reminder saps the joy of life. OL life on the moon is rough.
>>4526950>ulterior motives>>4526919
>>4526819>>4526817Someone already posted the interview pages. Mostly fluff but it did confirm Iroha used to love Yachiyo as a mommy.
>>4526990Jesus fucking Christ. This triangle relationship has every possible complex in existence. Iroha seea Yachiyo as her mother-girlfriend and Kaguya as her daughter-girlfriend. Yachiyo is into age gap relationships and Kaguya is into gargling.
>>4526997>Kaguya is into gargling.I better see a doujin where Iroha eats Kaguya out then gargles like it's fine mouthwash while Kaguya looks on entranced.
>>4526990Yes. The movie pretty much just focuses on Iroha and Kaguya relationship but if you read the novel a very big focus is Iroha's emotional dependency on her mother. In fact her being able to break out of it due to her relationship with Kaguya is as much of a character arc for Iroha as her love and devotion with Kaguya. They probably thought that theme was too heavy for the movie and just cut it almost completely.
I need a million doujins about domestic bliss with Yachiyo after getting to feel in Tsukuyomi and another million of her enjoying her life in Kaguyabot.
>>4527000I think the movie conveyed her unhealthy love-hate relationship with her mother pretty well. It's best conveyed when she acts like her mother or tries to get her approval, while also hating being like her mother and trying to become independent of her. Still it's not surprising that ahe initially saw Yachiyo as her mother figure, becauae Yachiyo was actually emotionally supportive and had infinite time to listen and care (especially about Iroha). Meanwhile her real mother is a high profile lawyer and constantly busy. The little time she can spare she just basically treats Iroha like she is going ro be swallowed by the world and needs to become as tough as herself.
Thoughts on this observation?.https://x.com/StarPolarisX/status/2021280858775167200
>>4527023>Yachiyo controlled the power lines to send Kaguya to Iroha's utility poleI don't really see anything, could be or couldn't equally. It also doesn't add any necessary component to their first meeting since it was already fated to happen.
>>4527023Since it's a paradox, anything that Yachiyo did in her own free will had actually happened before. So it could be, I see the "anxious" dropplets of energy tooI personally think Yachiyo did most of the stuff she did for Iroha and Kaguya because she geniunely wanted to, not because she remembered what was she supposed to do in the first place (other than the obvious stuff) I'm sure she wanted to help her past self to enjoy the best time of their lives as much as possible and it wouldn't be weird to go check out the meeting happens just in case. I'm sure she watched every Kaguya stream and was probably swooning when Iroha was beating up the npcs trying to court Kaguya
>>4527035Yeah from Yachiyo's point of view she's been waiting for these moments 8000 years and considers each a precious memory. I like the idea that she is watching over these pivotal moments even though she doesn't need to do anything to ensure they happen.
It do be like that.
The manga uses both Irokagu and Kaguiro.
>>4527049>Iroha actually being damaged by these cretinsThe idignity. Worat adaptation ever.
>>4526997Enough with the fake mommy play. Where's the insane ship art of Iroha x her mom?
>>4527058She will have to wait in line behind Roka.
>>4527023I think this one is really a stretch for once.
>>4527049I just love that the equivalent to the impossible tasks given to the suitors in the original tale is defeating an exhausted and overworked lesbian school girl.And it actually feels just as impossible!
>>4525128>look it up urself dumbassI want Saori Hayami to act out this line. Can you even imagine Yachiyo talking like an internet keyboard warrior? Might awaken something inside Iroha...
>>4527012We at least got some fanfics about that already.
Baby play is NOT optional.
Iroha: "I'M 27!!!"Yeah and your wife is 8000+, yet she isn't complaining.
https://x.com/umaauraa5/status/2021195435487133933/photo/1A sneak peak at one of those high quality doujins we can be expecting soon.
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>>4527049If VR had Smellovision, imagine how Iroha must smell when she takes the bodysuit off after fighting and sweating in it for hours.
Delicious
They're making kimchi.
- We understand that Kaguya's character design was decided from the point where it was based on "Kaguya-hime," but how was Iroha decided?Actually, initially, as a straightforward, easy-to-understand story, the option of "a beautiful girl named Kaguya appears before an unremarkable man..." briefly crossed my mind. But upon thinking about it, in reality, a streamer having a male partner tends to become quite a sensitive issue, so making the protagonist female-female was almost a must. Beyond that, to establish both Kaguya and Iroha's characters simultaneously, I decided to make them complete opposites. Since I was imagining Kaguya as an extremely free-spirited character, Iroha became a character who rebels against such Kaguya and lives trying not to stray from the rails she set for herself.-Regarding Yachiyo, whom Kaguya and Iroha admire, what were you thinking about when you shaped her character?This touches on a bit of a spoiler for the later part of the story, but the reason Iroha admires Yachiyo is that Yachiyo is her ideal mother figure. However, as those who have watched to the end will know, there's a twist where the person she admired like a mother is actually... Yachiyo is a character with a shadow lurking beneath her brightness, but we don't hint at that during the story. I had Saori Hayami, who plays Yachiyo, be very thorough about that.
>>4527117So anons guessing that they were intentionally complimentary in traits and even had left/right hand differences were right on the mark. Also this movie marks the one time that streamer toxicity culture somehow turned into a massive boon for yuri. And the work they put into hiding so many completely missable details with Yachiyo in the movie that only benefit someone who watches it again is basically unmatched in yuri stories across any medium as a whole.
>>4527117I hate the trope "perfect waifu falls for random normal dude" I barely tolerate in lesbians too, how come this is the first things that comes to mind when making a movie in this day and age? Thank god for toxic otaku
From a Japanese forum with the comment, "an easy-to-understand customer base."
>>4527117Kaguya and Yachiyo's Super Consultation Corner!A corner where the popular streamers Kaguya and Yachiyo answer everyone's questions and worries! We received a ton of questions this time too. Check out their uniquely wild answers!Q1: I always look forward to Yachiyo's live shows! What kind of show are you planning next?Yachiyo: There have been a lot of high energy ones lately, so how about a 'Recommended for falling asleep! Peaceful sleep inducing' live show? I'll sing some relaxing songs quietly! I want to set up bed style seating and have everyone watch while lying down~Q2 : Help me, Yachiyo! I'm starting a new life this spring and I'm anxious... Give me some encouragement!Yachiyo: Even if you plan things out perfectly, you never know if they'll go well. There are things in the world and in your own heart that don't go as you wish, and it makes you anxious, right? At times like that... summon me into your heart I'm an AI who's on humanity's side, so I'll cheer you on like crazy! I'll always be by your side.Q1 : Your last live show was super cute, and your dancing was so sharp I want to know what your next live show will be like!Kaguya: I have so, so, so many things I wanna do, I don't have enough bodies for it all! Man, I wish I could make clones like Yachiyo~. How about we use a ton of Kaguyas to do a human pyramid and make a giant Kaguya Castle stage, and then do a live show there? All the Kaguyas would start singing and it'd be total chaos! That'd be hilarious!Q2 : Kaguya, I got into a fight with my friend... How can I make up with them?Kaguya: Say everything you're thinking! Misunderstandings make me feel all squirmy... Maybe Kaguya's allergic to misunderstandings! If that still doesn't work, then just cut them off! ...Huh? That's not me being cold! You can just hang out again when you feel like it, right? I don't think everything's over just just because you separate once~
>>4527156> I don't think everything's over just just because you separate once~Now I'm crying again.
