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What is it that makes men like city building games?
Anyway, what's your favorite game in this genre?
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>>681369165
>What is it that makes men like city building games?
spawning godzilla to watch him stomp the buildings
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>>681369165
i like chill city builders. not a huge fan of ones that have too much "adversity" (like frostpunk)
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>>681369165
Remove the word games from the question, answer is the same
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>>681369165
I like city builders but my autism prevents me from playing them. The issue is, I want to build lots of small towns and villages more than the sprawling metropolis that these types of games promote. And so I always reach a point where it feels too "big" and I have to quit.
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>>681373735
There are village and town building games like Banished.
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>>681373735
play sc4 and make all the small towns you want
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>>681373735
If you like early game in city builders, try Against the storm. It's a roguelite city builder. The gameplay is slightly different compared to other city builders to better fit the roguelite format but I thought it was fun.
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>>681374212
bordering on too big but still looks nice
>>681373929
is it any good? I remember hearing about it years ago but it seemed a little barebones. The time setting also puts me off a little
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>>681374212
Based fellow Simcity enjoyer. It just works.
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>>681371003
Based. Zeus/Poseidon games were quality city builders.
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>>681374378
Banished is fine, but very simple.
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>>681374378
Banished is fun but there's like one thing that instantly wins the game and it's like putting gatherers or something within certain areas, then you never run out of food.
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civ 6
towerfall
that beaver game
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>>681369165
Is there any city builder conceived around managing shitholes?
Make the game so difficult that you'll end up with a shithole anyway with lots of shithole related mechanics and you have to mitigate damage?
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>>681378134
Yeah Tropico
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>>681369165
>woah this anno 1800 game looks really cool,
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>>681378134
probably tropico games
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>>681378134
>Is there any city builder conceived around managing shitholes?
Workers and Resources, kinda. It's a socialist shithole, but still a shithole.

>>681379160
>>681380203
No. Tropico is a retarded lol so randumb trash closer in tone to fucking Evil Genius (except without any fucking talent or style) than to anything. It's not a shithole if you can fucking steal Hagia Sophia and plop it into the middle of your island. There is absolutely no stakes and absolutely nothing that would resemble reality in the game, you are "managing" the fucking Toon Town in that game.
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Explain to me why you don't like Manor Lords WITHOUT mentioning it's in EA
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>>681369165
Men like city building games because centuries of human courtship have selected for the best builders.

Women choose men based on who provides them the most resources, including food, protection, etc. What's the main way we shelter women from hunger, predation, and the elements? We build them safe environments where they're virtually never at risk of dying from exposure, starvation, or being hunted by animals, and significantly less likely to be preyed upon by aggressive men or kidnapped by rival tribes, which used to be common.

City Builders also simulate peak status. You're basically roleplaying the head of the city (or even a god), which is the other thing women evaluate men on.

tl;dr City Builder games are wish fulfillment games focused on masculine social norms.

(They're also autistic games, which I hypothesize relates back to my previous remarks.)
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>>681384349
Clumsy intro experience.
Unclear how the gameplay loop works and I don't feel like studying to learn how to play a game before I can play it. I've done enough of that in my life with games like Dwarf Fortress.
I'll put time into it when it can hook me from the start and there's a decent gameplay loop apparent from the start.

For example, in SimCity/Cities:Skylines games, you build that first road and put down your first buildings and zones and let time start passing and little town you've started springs to life and you immediately get feedback about what to build next from the zoning demand panel, and advisors and citizens saying stuff like, "We need garbage collection!" or "We're having brownouts so we need more power infrastructure."

You can dive right into those games and know exactly how to proceed. And the number of things you can focus on grows organically. It starts out with one or two little things you can focus on, but by the time you have 10k people you now have several major projects you can focus on, and by the time you have 100k people you have dozens of major projects to choose from, and they're all introduced at a decent pace and presented in a clear manner.
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>>681385359
Great explanation. Anything else? I am looking at ML and still can't wrap my mind around it. I dislike it but I can't say why other than it's an overhyped game
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>>681379296
What's in there?
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>>681379296
ebin
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>>681369165
>What is it that makes men like city building games?
Autsim
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>>681369165
Chat is this real?
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>>681374212
>>681374928
what are the recommended mods for SC4 if there's any?
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>>681387081

Yeah uplay is cunted.

>>681386617

Never trust them after the 2205 shitfight.
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>please tell me that i am innately useful and powerful being a man

its 9am on a monday and you're already this worn down?
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>>681387504
Game looks great but installing a new launcher just for it feels iffy
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>>681371003
I fucking love Zeus and Poseidon so much.
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>>681373735
You might like Farthest Frontier, it's scale doesn't get especially big.
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>>681387681
SOOON YOULL CRACKKKKK
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>>681369165

Timberborn is really good and I highly recommend. In addition to building you manage water, radioactive "badwater" flows and droughts.
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>>681381816

Thats tropico 4. Tropico 3 is fine without the silly stuff
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>>681385578
>Anything else?
Pretty much every major problem of Manor Lords can be brushed off by the "it's an EA game" argument. It is very much flawed at the moment, but most of the issues can be very easily seen as the game not being finished or polished yet.
One thing I'm sure a lot of people will not like (though I personally love it in concept) is the emphasis on region-based management. ML isn't really a city-builder: it's a fiefdom manager. You actually control multiple individual lands, each of which has it's own separate economy, it's own separate tech progression and own separate administration. The point is not to build one big city, but rather to develop several, often highly specialized smaller hamlets, and then wrangle the trade mechanics into submission and create a interconnected economic network. Effectively, this means you'll be developing the same basic infrastructure several times.

This is one of the several systems in the game that go against common intuitions people have about games like this. I see a lot of potential in it, I love making smaller, inteconnected systems more than just continuously developing a single one, but I can why many people don't like it. It's also pretty poorly implemented at the moment, with the regional trade system being beyond unintuitive and unreliable.
Also, there is a big potential problem brewing with the game's frankly awful A.I and UI. Unit pathfinding is beyond broken and the controls - especially for someone used to TW games - are abysmal, and all of this makes me wonder if the promised A.I. build settlements are even remotely feasible. I can see the game just... dropping that feature, and I can see the pathfinding being a massive problem in relation to the promised castle-building mechanic. My suspicion being even bigger considering the game has no actually distinctive terrain features (like cliffs or rivers), which I suspect is to prevent the A.I. shitting itself, and it does not increase my confidence.
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>>681387646

If your interested get Anno 2070 as well as its stellar. Get the A.R.R.C. mod to double the content like underwater cities and XXL maps.

Anno games are generally great. Its hybrid RTS, Citybuilder and factory game. Uplay is a problem but youll get your moneys worth at least.
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>>681374928
>>681374212
makes me want to start playing simcity4
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Workers and Resources: Soviet Republic is pretty fun desune.



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