post honest, challenging souls bosses.
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>>681388480too much HP>>681388592heals>>681388632too little hp
>>681388708>too little hpagreed>>681388783not a souls boss
>>681388632>challengingMaybe if you limit yourself to L1/L2 and no jumping.
>challengenot the point of a souls boss
>>681388995a challenge of your reactive time in bosses like Dancer and Gael, of your endurance with Midir, of your game knowledge in Maliketh. Bosses exist to challenge you in any particular way and in thus, make you have fun and feel rewarded for learning and then defeating them. May not be the sole center point, but it's a pillar nonetheless.
>>681388849>not a souls bossSekiro is the absolute pinnacle of souls games and unless fromsoftware creates a game that takes from its core mechanics and adds to it it will remain as such.
>>681388907Doing this piece of shit in the defiled chalice was one of the most awful experiences ever.
>>681389469Sekiro isn't a souls game, though. Sekiro is an action/adventure game. Souls games are RPGs. They're entirely different genres.
>>681388995some bosses are tests of skill, others are tests of problem solving (puzzle or gimmick fights)
>>681388480>BloodborneAny of the hunters you face as bossesEbrietasLudwigOrphan>Elden RingMargit/MorgottRennalaRadhanMohgRellanaMetyrI haven't got too far into the DLC yet>>681388907The Defiled version of this should have never been fought, what a cheap fight
Pretty much the entirety of Elden Ring. The gameplay improvements really show that the difficulty was not having jump or options to avoid attacks that worked.
>>681389603>Souls games are RPGs
>>681390367Yep. Probably the best rpgs to come out in years.
>>681390367Yes? I understand if you're confused if you think all RPGs are turn based, but they're not.
>>681388682The epitome of difficult but honest
>>681388480Definitely one of From's best dragon fights. Whenever someone asks me the difference between a good fight and a bad fight, I will just direct them to compare Bayle to all the other dragon fights in ER.
>>681390682placidusax was much better than this goofy looking cripple.
>>681389603I guess they are, yeah, if you consider choosing which armor to wear and whether or not you want a big weapon or a small one to be what defines a game as an rpg. In any case, Sekiro has just as many endings as the typical souls game and you can absolutely roleplay if you try hard enough.
>>681390682The dragon race tends to be almost extinct in souls games. I think people get confused by them still existing as a race in er and don't get that there are mook tier dragons too.
>>681390367Eldenshitter newfags have convinced themselves Souls is an RPG genre to try to justify them cheesing the shit out of Elden Ring.
>>681388708It's ok, I play on NG+7>>681389469Sekiro bosses are boring as fuck though
>>681390824Oh yeah Flaccidsex was also a good fight. But the generic Drakes/Ancient Dragons are all dogshit enemies.
>>681390965>throws phoenix down at ExDeath
>>681390840Sekiro is not an RPG because you can't customize a character with weaknesses and have a unique playstyle
>>681388783not a souls boss. >bbbut similar>overwatch and csgo are both shooters but comparing them as if they are the same genre is retarded
>>681391056They're fine. The only bad ones are the really late game ones like the ones at Farum that are just basic dragons but with huge hp pools and for some reason don't have lock on points on their hind legs.
>>681390682>Whenever someone asks me the difference between a good fight and a bad fight, I will just direct them to compare Bayle to all the other dragon fights in ER.I was extremely surprised it almost felt like a DS3 boss. Hell I had far more problems with the dragon before him that just spammed lightnings on the water forcing you to roll + jump or double roll like a spastic constantly. Between the mechanical design, Igon questline and the overall spectacle Bayle was probably the biggest positive surprise of the DLC like he was so much better than that light diarrhea that was Consort Radahn I can't even believe it those two are in the same game.
>>681388480And they filtered many shitters too
>>681390840You can be as reductive as you like, it won't change the truth.
>>681390682summon Igorsummon latenna watch as Bayle gets pelted all match was fun, but I def cheesed it with these two
>>681388708>too much HPBro what? The entire fight took 4 minutes on my SL1 run.>T8GAY
>>681388480easy>>681388592easy>>681388632easy but fucking cool>>681388682t. pcfag>>681388783pretty good but stuck in an easy game>>681388849pretty good but don't step on the MMO fire puddles>>681388907t. pcfag>>681389469ds3 = easy shit>>681390302even easier than ds3 bosses>>681390451based retard>>681390682decent fight where the dragon doesn't just sperg out after every attack animation>>681391217only fight that filtered me
>>681390682i had to tailor 3 of 4 trinkets specifically for him ( fire+3, lightning+3, pearl+3), plus defensive stuff in my physick. it makes a massive difference. i swear his attacks would only do 1/5th of my health bar after that.
>>681391336The whole zone comes together to be a great series of fights and cool story. Igon is mandatory for kino, Bayle's fight starts when you walk across the rope bridge and see Igon ranting at a mountain.
midir
>>681391504>t8(tight) gay
>>681391394>aoe after every attack>multiple nuke attacks that fill almost the entire boss room>lightspeed after image anime attacks that spaz out the camera>particle effects out the ass that slow down perfomance and make it almost impossible to see wtf is happeningyeah i just used a verdigris shield and poked him to death
>>681390682All dragon fights in Elden Ring are good
>>681391546I stay using the dragoncrest greatshield but man switching around those other 3 talismans per boss fight is night and day.So many people that cry about bosses will slam their head against the wall over and over without changing their gear once.
>>681389469Sister Friede is the best Soulsborne boss fight.
>>681391336>I was extremely surprised it almost felt like a DS3 boss.So braindead and easy? Because you can't mean that as of a positive/compliment.Compare fighting ancient wyvern in Dark Souls 3 to Dragons in Elden Ring
post objectively middling bosses that filtered you. im talking stuff that took 15 to 20 tries, while most people do it in 1 to 3.this fucking cunt took almost 15 goes. i ended up having to oil, and flamevent him for 1 whole health bar.
>>681391794Not even close lmao
>>681391871>Compare fighting ancient wyvern in Dark Souls 3 to Dragons in Elden Ring>compare a gimmick setpiece fight to a normal boss fight
>>681391879Hey isn't that Sekiro? I wouldn't call that a souls game.
>>681391879I don't think this has ever happened to me. I play as the devs want so no boss takes more than 3 times.
>>681391794top 5 for me.
>>681392117So you don't use summons in ER then
>>681391669>dragon fghts>goodpick one
>>681391879ghost monk took me an unreasonable amount of time
>>681388849I can't dodge his delayed bullshit attacks so I cheesed it so bad(dual bleed poleblades aka jumpy spinny wheely) it didn't even cast 1 ring on me
>>681392231the horrible one in DS2 that makes you fast switch armour and weapons because it melts their durability.its obnoxious, but its very memorable
>>681391794Based
>>681392186I use spirit ashes for almost every fight. I'm a goober though so I use things like demi-humans or a named knight that compliments my build. If a boss is weak to a status ailment I'll make pots of that element and throw them. If the boss folds to turtling up and hiding behind a shield and guard countering it I'll do that. If the boss is weak to strike damage I'll hit them with a strike weapon.
>>681392383but DaS2 dragon fights are good?
>>681391969Shut up faggot. I actually fought the second wyvern in Archdragon Peak whixh you are technically meant to either avoid or fight. It's incredibly how they took an actual dogshit piece of shit boss and turned it into a great field boss.The only reason shitters now prefer "DS3 bosses" are that most DS3 bosses allow them to roll in place and avoid attacks due to poor desigj and lack of area of effect.The hilarity of having a decade of faggots bitching about tue newest boss being tok hecking hard as each game stripped crutches and gaping hole in enemy designs, taking whatever previous boogeyman as example. Now you faggots suddenly like Dark Souls 3 bosses? Nigger I still remember /v/ losing their shit calling Friede bad design way before Malenia and Gundyr way before Margit.No, Dark Souls 3 dragons aren't good. Even Midir is extrenely mediocre as it will spam a very samey moveset, leaving extremely predictable openings balanced by being the single tankiest enemy in relation to damage values in any From game. Elder Dragons are far superior and less predictable and slow in their recovery, but also in a game with better movement
>>681392434I use spirit or something else, I don't care, just beat the Lion thing of DLC first attempt with NPC summon + Spirit, didn't even know the moveset, in fact it was bullshit aside from physical attacs
>>681392661He's pretty much a slightly scaled down ulcerated tree spirit so if you know that moveset you can fight him easily and enjoy the kino. The floating ball into the lightning attack is so fucking kino.
>>681392654wtf i dont remember deathblight clouds for fortissax
>>681388783Best fromsoft bossSometimes I launch sekiro just to fight inner isshin again.
>>681391794>Sister Friede is the best Soulsborne boss fight.Eh the whole stealth thing is kind of a gimmick once you " get it" and phase two is really uninteresting and makes the fight unnecessarily long imo. It's a 8/10 for me.
They might seem slow and trivial now, but real niggas remember bumping into them for the first time
>>681388783>Sword Saint>pulls out a gunThe utmost epitome of dishonest.
>>681391879First time I fought GYOUBU MASATAKA ONIWA probably takes it.I played like a coward running away from a damn horse.
>>681393039that shit had me stuck for hours, by then I still didn't have souls downI saw a youtuber clear them in less than 2 minutes, shit was mindblowing to me at the time
>>681391394great fight, I love it so much but not sure if I like malenia or it more.it would've been perfect without the double slash into twin slash though, how in the fuck are you suppossed to roll the second hit?
>>681388480>honestPic unrelated, of course.He started the million hp roll 10 times to hit once bullshit because on most of his attacks he could recover and swing again before you were able to roll unless you were using a faster weapon.
>>681388480>challenging
>>681394078You can do the exact same thing (if not even more efficiently) in elden ring with every boss.
>>681394078Try fighting him with an ugs.
>>681391879Demon of SongI uhh, don't wanna talk about it
>>681389469Sekiro is not a souls game RETARD
>>681388480fighting the camera more than the boss isn't honest
>>681394617Neither is elden ring or bloodborne but hey people understanding comparing 2 things. The non-autistic at least.
>>6813887833 separate phases and a preamble boss isn't honest
>>681394791But it's HARD so if you don't enjoy it you're a FILTERED CASUAL HESITATION MEANS DEFEAT XD
>>681390367Souls games are definitely rpgs just bad ones at that
>>681396083yeah you can't even have sex with trannies in them.
>>681394854it's not hard, it's actually quite easy if you've mastered the games mechanics
