Are you enjoying the new endgame?
>>681455897Yeah, it's pretty fun. It also got me my slug, so I'm happy.I will miss Charlotte on my Navia team, though.
>>681455897it's okay. it gives you different objectives instead the usual abyss. kinda wish it had something outside of "beat enemy before times runs out" but it is what it is
>>681457256Wuthering Waves would NEVER
>>681455897A child shouldn't have an ass that big
>>681455897that slug got a dumpy frfr
>>681455897what endgame>>681456796what the hell are you talking about>>681456835am I being trolled?
>>681456796sigewinne's kit is so fucking dogshit it's unbelievableif she buffed ALL skill damage she would have been okay
>>681455897I liked it, at least I get to use characters I rarely line up>>681458472Additional to the Abyss there is a new monthly combat challenge, Imaginarium Theater
>>681458523her kit is identical minus the shield to baizhu with substantially less field time needed retardo.
>>681457256wait wait wait they added a pepe skin in genshin!?
>>681456796that slug makin me sweat
>>681457256this is horrifying
>>681457256god I love loom so fucking much
>>681459252lol
>>681458523Eh, she's useful enough for what I need in a team healer. My Navia is super strong without the buff, and I obviously won't complain about Chiori and Furina hitting harder.>>681459343Slunny is food for the soul.
>>681459716not my fault you fell for homoshilling
>>681459920
>gearing up and leveling a character in star rail takes at best a day>doing the same in Genshin takes upwards of a fucking week if not more depending on your rng luck with gem drops for ascension or MANDATORY relic farmingUnironically try to justify this
>>681459252they barely have anything in common>>681459851think of how much better she would be if she buffed navia though, retarded that they nerfed her like that. it seriously limits her teams where she isn't a brick
>>681460112>they barely have anything in commonif you're retarded sure. both only have relevance in being fanfare stackers for furina.
>>681460194what a retarded thing to say
>>681460232the retarded thing is thinking baizhu is useful outside furina
>>681460297you're the one who brought him up, spastic fuck. this is also another completely retarded thing to say
>>681460112>think of how much better she would be if she buffed navia though, retarded that they nerfed her like that.That's true, it does feel pretty obtuse as a NaviaChad. That being said I also believe a well-built Navia also doesn't need many external buffs, so I'm not losing sleep over it.
>>681460453i'm bringing him up because both their roles are party wide healers you retarded mongoloid faggot. which other character are you going to compare her to in order to say she's bad you retard. that's actually the retarded thing to say.
>>681455897a bit too easy, just finished with only trials and 4*s and let me tell you, that trial Arlecchino felt strong as fuck, probably because the enemies have actual small numbers in this mode
>>681460112>think of how much better she would be if she buffed navia thoughnot at all because furina's uses the skill buffs anyways. if you're going to metafag make your post make sense
>>681460030Star Rail characters level quickly because the devs want you to experience them before they get power-crept the very next patch.
>>681460510I'm salty because her niche is pretty much exclusively your team since not a lot of other teams have 2 off-field damage dealers. and when you switch to those characters you'll lose damage too which is just dumb.>>681460590I don't think either of them are good>>681460726and if you don't use furina
>>681460642I mean, that's just how Kino normally is. She's broke.
>>681460865>I don't think either of them are goodwell boohoo then retard. you can't expect her to give a buff like bennett while healing the entire party 25k hp. so you need to be clear which healer she's somehow bad compared to.
I lost my 50/50 and got c1 mona.
>>681460865use chiori? use albedo?
>>681455897is that modded!??
>>681460973>caring about healing>>681461082and if you don't use them
Siggy isn't very good but it's fine because she's cute. I have no idea what team to use her on since I don't have Furina.
i don't understand these twitch streamers, man. im not even saying this new content is tough as nails but them just saying: "oh wow this is so easy". do they not understand people don't spend as much as time and money on this game as they do?
>>681461196>>caring about healingpost your abyss healer less clear then bro. non neuvillette of course
Why are Melusine Neuvillette's familiars when he had no part in their creation?
>>681461196>and if you don't use themwhy are you using the off field skill buffer with navia then? are you using bennett with neuvillette?
>>681461271he adopted them
>>681461271raiden didn't make miko
>>681460945I didn't expect her to do actual damage with Ballad of Fjords, but looking now, they actually have pretty decent builds for trialshad the most fun with Clorinde, wish they had given this trial a week earlier so I would've rolled for her
>>681461271He's pretty much the closest thing in Fontaine to their actual father, plus he enjoys playing the part anyways.
>>681461271both are aliens that arrived in Fontaine around the same time, so you could argue they share that relation, Neuvillette being a bit older than them
people hate on healers till hoyo starts dropping double consecrated beasts again
>>681460830>saying this while playing fucking Genshin
>>681460030>gearing up and leveling a character in star rail takes at best a dayAre we playing the same game bro? Trying to max out traces is ass.
>>681461835>peoplethat guy thinks both sigewinne and baizhu are bad and that baizhu sole role is to be a furina slave, I don't think you should take his opinion seriously
>>681460030>gearing up and leveling a character in star rail takes at best a dayNo it fucking doesn't you lying faggot
>>681455897its a garbage mode for whales
>>681462120>that baizhu sole role is to be a furina slavehe isn't?
>>681461835Last time they did that Diona was more than enough for me
>>681462243>usage rate as an argumentsee, I don't think you should take his opinion seriously
>>681462365where are you using baizhu where he can't get replaced by even 4*
>>681462441where are you using Nahida where she can't get replaced by even a 4*or the vast majority of characters reallyoh btw, Baizhu is more of a Neuvillette slave than a Furina slave in that team
>>681462120To be fair, Siggy is hand-made to be a Furina support with her off-field (SKILL ONLY) DPS effect that lasts for the majority of any rotation with Furina.
>>681462593>where are you using Nahida where she can't get replaced by even a 4*cynoniloualhaithamtighnariusing any 4* and you get massive dps losses, can't say the same for baizhu.
>>681461273you're missing the point>>681461241I use 4 star healers and they are never built for healing
>>681462789>you're missing the pointyou are incapable of making your point clear
>>681462726>Nahida>Alhaitham>TighnariCan be replaced with Dendro MC.
>>681462789>i [use healers]thanks for the concession i guess
>>681462835you're just dumb, I made it ages ago>>681460112>>681462864I didn't say anything about not using healers, I said I don't care about healingilliterate retard
>>681462859>Can be replaced with Dendro MC.with massive dps losses. if the topic of the discussion is anyone being able to replace anyone then no character is actually bad including sigewinne
>>681462908and i replied to it ages ago faggola, are you braindead>>681460726
>>681463087and so we've come full circle you god damned retard>and if you don't use furina>and if you don't use themher teams are very limited making her an easy skip
>>681462908you said you don't care about healing but you can't post your healerless abyss clear gigaretard
>>681462726>CynoI'm pretty sure Baizhu is quite literally better, especially after Furina or against wavesbut you can use DMC to the same, her burst usually lasts a lot of time if infused with Hydro and will have advantage in case you're fighting against waves>NilouDMC, Collei, Kirara, Yaoyao>AlhaithamDMC, Collei, Kirara, although I'm pretty sure you'd probably just want to run him as the solo Dendro at this point, he has a lot of different teams, especially in a post Furina world (oh btw, Baizhu also shines here)>Tighnarinever played him/not aware of his teams, so I'll give you that>using any 4* and you get massive dps losses not really, especially not in teams like Nilou's or Alhaitham's (where you're probably just playing with other builds)this is of course, not talking about C2 Nahida, because that's a completely game changer
Comfy Emilie waiting room.
>>681463163and i also responded to that you goddamn moron>>681461082your arguments have no logical consistency. why are you using the off field skill buffer without an off field skill damage dealer? do you use bennett with neuvillette? are you stupid?
>>681462726I don’t think that’s true, I use Collei with Tighnari and have used Collei, Kirara and YaoYao with Nilou and all of them work just as well as Nahida. I don’t see what Nahida brings to the table that the others can’t.
>Decide to catch up from Inazuma after not playing since the Chasm first came out>Don't want to move on until I beat all the old side quests I got from old regions since don't wanna pick up more>Inazuma quests >Chasm quests>remember I gotta level weapons and talents now since I was retarded and accidentally got myself to WL 8>still gotta find three electroculus for the last pot for Elecro Traveller why are Inazuma quests so fucking soulsucking? It's so much fucking busy work for something that doesn't matter
>>681463178you are so desperate to win this that you're acting like you can't read or think >>681463313where are the inconsistencies in saying her teams are very limited?>why are you using the off field skill buffer without an off field skill damage dealer? I'm not, I'm calling the character shitty because that's all she does. boosts a small amount of damage in a small amount of teams
>>681463304>I'm pretty sure Baizhu is quite literally betterbaizhu has no dendro app.>DMC, Collei, Kirara, Yaoyaothey're all worse than nahida for her>DMC, Collei, Kirara,all are worse for him. reminder this isn't about replacements, the argument was that a character is bad because they're not the best option
>>681463313also comparing her to bennett, what a jokehe boosts a large amount of damage for a large amount of teams and he's a 4 star
>>681463435>you are so desperate to win this that you're acting like you can't read or thinkand i am winning because the guy who doesn't care about healers... uses healers holy kek
>>681459054Oh that's a monthly thing? I thought it was just an event. How do I know if I got all the primogems for this cycle?
>>681463304agree with this post. I play Tighnari a ton and have never seen a good reason to put Nahida on his team
>>681463435>where are the inconsistencies in saying her teams are very limited?how are they limited when there's a multitude of skill off field damage dealers?>I'm not, I'm calling the character shitty because that's all she does.and she heals your entire party 20k retardo, don't forget that part. which is why i asked you to tell me which healer is she bad in comparsion to
>>681463508bennett is not a party wide healer dumbo. i'm sure you know that
>this retard was samefagging the entire timejesus christ
>this retard ran out of arguments so he cries samefag
>>681463463>I'm pretty sure Baizhu is quite literally betterit's enough for Aggravate/Spread, in a post Furina world, she's the best support for Cyno, so you'll be running her and she needs a healer, who Baizhu happens to be BiS for Cyno then, Cyno's best team still runs Nahida either way>DMC, Collei, Kirara, YaoyaoYaoyao role is completely different most of the time since she's hogging on field time but healing, and even if you want to argue "they're worse", they don't convert to a "massive dps loss" as you wrote earlier, she's easily replaceable>reminder this isn't about replacements, the argument was that a character is bad because they're not the best option>>where are you using baizhu where he can't get replaced by even 4*kys nigger
>>681455897https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GMpFNE6b64Imaginarium Theater music is so good.
>>681463401>>681463401You can lower your world level
>Genshittersremember to point and laugh
>>681463875>'s enough for Aggravate/Spread, in a post Furina world,but not enough for hyperbloom. if you're running cyno you want a lot of core generation.>Yaoyao role is completely different most of the time since she's hogging on field time but healing, and even if you want to argue "they're worse", they don't convert to a "massive dps loss" as you wrote earlier, she's easily replaceableevery single 4* dendro has very subpar dendro application. if you've ever seen nilou clears they'll always pair the 4* dendro with nahida>where are you using baizhu where he can't get replaced by even 4*completely correct. the only worthwhile spot baizhu has is in the context of furina teams.
>>681457256
>>681455897Haven't played it yet. Still getting my whopping solo anemo c6 dps Faruzan online. She'll probably be terrible.
>>681464045post your latest abyss clear and your full platinum medals of the latest boss rush, otherwise you're a shitter and I won't lose any more time with you
lol retardpedos really bricked their accounts rolling for that useless shit
>>681464282>deflecting
>>681464380guess c0 nahida and c0 furina are useless according to this
>>681464380>neuv >ssLMAO
>>681459920>>681459956>>681459252using disingenuous comparisons building him poorly won't change factsbaizhu can heal the entire team quickly with one E, works as a driver for the best hyperbloom team, shields, applies off field dendro and buffs all dendro reactionssigewinne has the worst off field hydro application, takes forever to heal, and her burst is completely uselessdon't believe me? look at how meta charts, look at usage rates, look at her abysmal sales
>>681464692>has to dig up 4.2 charts from an abyss that had hydro immune enemiesthe fact that you have to grasp straws this fucking hard shows how desperate and defeated you are
>>681464712>using [COPE]if anything those clips favor him harder because no one has baizhu at 52k hp because he's an energy black hole>lists all this when he amounts to just a neuv/furi tool where no one gives a shit about his app or dendro bufflol
>>681464692Dehya stronk.
>>681464404ok, so you're a casual, next time don't talk about metahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V32z3tk41TA
>>681464798It's a fair fucking playing field and not hydro wank. Neuv is over rated TRASH.
>>681464862you really don't want to go find faster clips using nahida right?
>>681456835It's so dumb that they went the lazy route and just used load screens between the arenas. They already had a better way of doing that with the Labyrinth event
>>681464989>if you've ever seen nilou clears they'll always pair the 4* dendro with nahidaplease, stop typing casual, don't talk about meta if you can't even get plat medals in boss rushes
>pedophiles are seething hard because the dendro loli they were waiting for years got powercrept and oblieterated within months by a male character>to make things worse, when they get a limited 5 star loli healer, she's the useless unusable garbage they hoped baizhu would beit's no surprise creeps always lose, and since they're delusional all they can do is cope and try to hide from facts
>>681461271Neuvillete is very smart and decided to monopolise the cunny harem before they grew close to humans
>>681465091based
>>681465091you can stop coping now homobro. new powercreep has no place for your belly dancer
>>681455897I have no clue what team to put Sigewinne in. Any help?
>>681461271they're enteral children and he's an eternal ossan, there's no other way they could get along.
>>681465067>using any 4* and you get massive dps lossesyup yup.https://youtu.be/H_9S2XKJBQY
>>681465194>being so desperate your only hope is a telegram text for characters that haven't even been revealedit must hurt to dream so much only to open your eyes and face reality, baizhu, kazuha and neuvillette meta while your potato garbage is on the same tier as dehya
>>681465239fuckrina and then two more plebs
>>681465359>he literally typed this with tears falling out his eyesalright screencap my post bro. the beta is a in 3 weeks we'll so who has the last laugh
>>681465312>moving the goalpost for the third timeyou're not even shameless about being a casual, but you're also insisting about a "win more" argument just to save face?casualmaybe next time you can get plat medals so you won't be exposed as a casual trash
>>681455897im apparently just trash at the game because i can't even beat the third stage desu. the character selection is kind of ass. faruzan is really restrictive
>>681465537>actually coping about being wrong at his own gamestrange i don't recall moving the goalpost a single time. all i said was using 4* causes massive dps losses as evident by the clips we posted
>>681465668the whole reply chain started with "where are you using baizhu where he can't get replaced by even 4*"then I proved you can easily replace Nahida with 4*s and still work just fine, but your argument moved right away to a "win more" right after thatalso, you keep avoiding the topic, so I guess you accepted you're a casual at least, really don't talk this deeply into the meta if you don't even know the limits of 4*s, seeing your kind talking about a imaginary scenario where you actually need strong characters, but not being able to clear the boss rush is kinda pathetic
>>681461456Yeah seriously, never would have expected her to be that cool. I definitely would have rolled her if Sigewinne wasn't right after. I'll catch her next time.
>>681465917>where are you using baizhu where he can't get replaced by even 4*seems like you left out crucial details. i said that baizhu's best purpose where he is a good slot is with furina, and he can be easily replaced by 4* otherwise. you then tried to say nahida is like this which isn't true unless you want to have massive dps losses on your team. then you tried posting evidence SUPPORTING me that using 4* over nahida is a dps loss. hope that makes it clear
Do you need all platinum to get all the primogems from the new event thing?
>>681464380Gaming is S tier? Why?
>>681466320Doesn't look like it. I don't even know what the platinum is for.
>>681466554It's in the name. Do you even game?
Name a bigger brick. Imagine owning a drag queen on your account.
imagine if murata gives your entire party 100% BoL and if you clear it the entire party gets 1000 attack
I feel like you would have had to be playing this game for literal years before even being able to complete normal mode. Having 8 geared characters isn't necessary hard, but the fact they have to be very specific elements really limits what the average person is going to be able to do.
>>681466245I think it did, also sorry for being so rude, I kinda felt bad after the last oneIt usually isn't a massive DPS loss, it always depend on the fight and some characters, like Alhaitham, don't even need to play with her for similar or better results, see:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-3QjHrmQ8shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU8SLbraDDIhad I known the discussion would be about "winning more", I wouldn't even bothered, since at that point you might as well argue about constellations or just say Neuvillette and everyone that isn't him sucks. To me, the game doesn't really offer any content that warrants this type of talk, outside of self imposed rules like speedruns or challenges
EN Dilucbros... is it over?https://x.com/awryval/status/1807872778470560039
>>681466993Skill issue
I have like 3 5* and I can't even upgrade themI got Furina, Mona and Jean. Can I make a good team with this?
>>681466993You should be able to use all 3 of the trial carries for 6 rounds, so you just need your actual characters to pull their weight for last 2
>>681467323furina and jean are a great duo, you just need a dps and a 4th in the 2 other slots
>>681467323Furina/Jean are pretty damn good together, after that all you need is a carry and you got yourself a solid team, Mona has her uses, but she's quite niche in comparison to those two who you can slot in most teamsAlso 4*s are very good in this game, so you should consider using them too
>>681467245why're they always going after underagetrannies
>>681467245>"xer was molested by [famous person] 50 years ago, retribution now"Thread theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi_XLOBDo_Y
>>681467548>>681467612I got Fischl, she's my most upgraded character. I'll try that.
Kino sex status?
>>681467867Fischl can be a carry physical, especially early game, but later on you'll probably want to switch her to off field, also she's an amazing character and her set is in the same domain as Furina too
>>681467926op AF this theatre
>>681467926Turned into Mother now. All me btw
Choose
>>681468140Yes.
>>681468140siggy got the ass but not the tits, guess that's the way it has to be sometimes
>>681464692>Noelle only 4 star on the listBased
>>681461106no, the powers that be have decided sigewinne as fontaine's biggest assexcluding wrio
>>681467245This reeks of "just trust me bro"
>>681468875This is a maid-lover board.
>>681461941>"I don't play Genshin."Why're you even here?
>>681469167Siggy's tush gives me strength in these trying times.
>>681467220>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU8SLbraDDIDamn, look at how feeble that scholar is.
>>681469561she needs to stop teasing human men
>>681469839Impossible, Melusines are the greatest predators in Fontaine.
>>681465091man, i bet your neovag reeks of puss and shit. i don't even like any of these characters you mentioned but sound like a bitter tranny acting like a retard from twitter
>>681470201wew lad. you gotta link me that mod
>>681470468Sure.https://files.catbox.moe/zy8hvj.zip
>>681470789ty so much broill share some images no sites have yethttps://litter.catbox.moe/vlrvls.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/63fzg7.png
Went in blind beat hard 8 first try. Borrowed a friend's c0 Venti. It wasn't a drag to play like the Abyss. Ended up playing couple more to get the achievements done. Overall I liked it. It's a nice switch up to the usual Abyss.Being able to loan out my C3R1 INVESTMENTS :^) is great so my shitlord friends can also get clears.
>>681471154Incredibly based, thanks anon.
>>681471537>borrowing charactersevil filthkill yourselfnone of you disgusting subhuman psychopaths will ever touch my KleeI refuse to participate in in cancer like this, I will never defile my account by using some subhuman random's trash characterfuck multiplayer as a concept
Out of curiousity, which is better for Sigewinne teams, C1 or R1?
>>681455897No, Genshin has horrible gameplay and even more horrible "story". I don't enjoy anything in it.
>>681471887hi 2 u 2 multiplayer schizo how was ur day
>>681471962leave me alone with this child
>>681472016Omg hi Chen
>>681471537i'm going to "borrow" my friends C6 waifus and jerk off to completionyou guys have been warned
>>681472870don't need to announce your jerk off sesh
>>681473009
>>681471962c1. her burst doesn't do much damage unless she's c6. can only hope hoyo makes a better f2p bow than recurve for her
NO NO NO NO GUYS I BRICKED MY SINGLE PLAYER, F2P GAME ACCOUNT AIIIIIEEEE HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME METABROS???!?!?!?
Should I accept it?
I'm so fucking sick of this stupid prison complex. Setting half of Fontaine's story here was really stupid.
>>681475628qiqi pfp so they're probably based
>>681475628>SEAnigEw.
>>681456796>All these skins would have been made if not for Xi's chokeholdWhat a cursed timeline we live in
Got the weapon and C1. Is C2 an even bigger deal or is just ok? who should use Chiori's sword now if I don't have neither Albedo nor Chiori herself?
>>681475892c1 and c2 are basically the same damage increase wise. chiori's sword is kind of a brick without either of them (its actually good on furina but you have her sig already)
Nature is healing
>>681476452>another gamemode they had to get rid of the very fun beasts
I have a level 20 Alhaitham. Will he count toward the 18 required characters because he's a special guest?
>>681477715Nope, it's for level 70 and above
>>681477715I assume he still needs to meet the level requirement for whichever of the three modes you're planning to do
If I lick her _tail_, will I die?
>>681477916Sorry I meant will he count if I level him to 70
>>681461218I can only do normal on my 1yr old F2P account it doesn't have enough built characters. Meanwhile my 3 year old welkin clears easily.
IT'S UP tomorrow
>>681478108noher horns instead
>>681478214What is that?
>>681479123Zenless Zone Zero, it seems.
>>681479173Oh, thought it was something important.
Imagine thinking you can't roll for a character purely for their looks rather than strictly being a performance metaslave.I bet these are the same babbies bitching about IT requiring ~18 lv70+ characters of specific elements because all they did was follow some youtubers meta faggotry to clear abyss with the same characters every reset.>>681461218People always have different experiences and expectations of games. What's bizarre is that I bet a lot of people complaining about IT's requirements are either people that don't do abyss in the first place (or at least not floor 12, maybe not floor 11 either), new players or retards that just follow guides with zero thoughts and are now surprised they need more characters leveled. The only real gating is character count, most stages in the event have no actual time limit (and if they do it's not strict at all unlike Abyss) and all rewards are only tied to clearing the stages, medals are literally just for showing off on your profile no one will look at.
can't please people that were going to bitch anyway
>>681478157Yes you can
>>681479394You only need 11 built characters. You get 6 from the IT and one from your friend list
>>681479804The 6 freebies can overlap with what you already have and not necessarily reduce the amount of characters you need to have raised so saying ~18 is better than saying 12. Right about the support choice though.
>>681479804I thought the support character from your friend doesn't count?
>>681455897It's fine but I don't like how I now need to have multiple side characters kitted out with artifacts. Diablo Loot is a cancer on gaming. I guess I could just buff up a bunch of Gladiator/Wanderer pieces but it feels like such a waste of EXP. Some of those levels I was just barely getting through.
good thing about is that it's more shitter accessible compared to abyss where it's a high tier dps check. shitters can just borrow a c6r5 and cobble together their half assed leveled randos and clear most of it
>>681480564You can move artifacts around between stages so you don't even need to have artifacts prepared for all characters as long as sets can work on multiple characters. They even added the option to do so inside the Abyss with the patch even tho it wasn't even needed there to begin with but nice either way I suppose.
>>681479982Yeah it doesn't, but you could just level one character to 70 and replace him immediately with your friend's unit without leveling that character's talents, weapon and artifacts.
can friends characters count towards the 17 character minimum or do I need to own those?
..................wos
>>681482729lose some wait
>>681481652>You can move artifacts around between stagesCan you? All of my characters have their own sets so I never bothered to even try it out, but I heard people complain it's not possible.
>>681482561They count
>681464692Do fags here seriously believe that dehya is better than neuvi?
>>681483020Yes, press this during the character select and for your own characters you can change weapon/artifacts. It works in Abyss too.
I want Sucrose to sit on my face
>8 mysterious boxesWHERE ARE THEY
>>681483659HAVE YOU CHECKED YOUR BUTTHOLE?
>>681483659>Didn't even realize this was an achievement and rerolled past a few of them despite having like five by the end.
I just don't get the combat in this gameSwapping between 4 characters is too big brain for me
>>681483802Learn and understand this chart.
>>681483802>>681484310Also this one.
>>681484361>>681484310or just mash whatever. works on my machine
>>681483802Make a team of a random purple, random blue (not teal), and a random green (not teal) character and randomly buttonmash on EQ on them as everything dies.
>>681483802Think of three of the characters as supports helping one main character deal damage. The supports can either be sub DPSes (So they deal high damage but not while on the field like Yelan, Xingqiu, Xiangling, or Fish), supports (So they buff or apply an element constantly while healing or damaging like Kusanali, Gorou, Kazuha, or Furina), shielders (So they protect your character while sometimes dealing damage or applying elements like Layla, Diona, Kirara, or John Lee), or healers (So they heal with some other benefit like Baizhu, Benny, Jean, Diona, Barabara, or Kokomi).Your goal is to make a team that buffs and supports the lead DPS character (So people like Arlecchino, Raiden Clorinde, diluc_gaming, or Itto) while also providing elemental reactions or synergies with their element.Itto for example wants a Geo-based team so you'd pick Gorou to buff his Geo damage, Chiori to be his sub-DPS, and then your fourth is flexible.Arlecchino wants people to help sustain her while also buffing her damage, so Xingqiu or Yelan as the sub-DPS which also applies Hydro so she does vape damage constantly (Both also work), some other form of Hydro for the free HP% buff from the Hydro Resonance or a Pyro character for ATK% buff from Pyro Resonance, and then your fourth is flexible but can be someone like Kazuha to facilitate swirling Pyro/Hydro damage and grouping enemies together.It's only hard when you don't know how elements react and what their kits are. Once you understand at a glance what their kits are it starts to make sense. I was overwhelmed starting out but once I learned how characters played I have no issue making teams now. Break it down like this:Element - Role - Gimmick>Arlecchino = Pyro - DPS - Can't heal, Bond of Life for damage.>Yelan = Hydo - DPS/sub-DPS - Dashes give energy and allow mobbing, charged bubble attack.>Kusanali = Dendro - Support - Constant Dendro application and damage buffs.
>>681455897yeah but it's a bit confusing and you need like 20 good artifact sets
>>681464380>alharam>SS tier C0what kind of dick are these guys smoking?
>dendro/hydro/pyroHeres your 5.0 imaginarium theatre
>>681455897It forced me to bring up Lisa and Bennet up to lv70 to have enough characters and it was also over after only an hour but other than that it wasn't too bad.
>>681484779He works fine on my machine
>>681484310This somehow manages to make what is essentially a small table with like five rows look complex
>>681484870>needs most op team in the game on second half to correct for Alhaitham jobbing the first halfjesus
It was kinda fun to use shitter characters that I never use I guess
my forgotten wife
I just realized the resident tripfag can't do the IT since he's autistically anti-male
>>681461218kek-ing my beloved from a game I don't even play
I can't believe I'm forced to farm artifacts for anemo pyro and electro characters only for the imaginarium theatre.
>>681455897is she worth it?
>>681485083>>681485098Don't get me wrong. Her design is great and she has unique footwear. But her gameplay almost scream Albedo.
>>681485160Diona's tummy....
I stopped doing story quests when sumeru came out and the game is better this way
>>681485112I'm "autistically" anti-male too and did it just fine. Not much I can do about the game forcing me to bring Thoma and Scarafag though. Besides my anti-male is only related to pulling for characters. Kazuha is mechanically great and actually fun to use but I'll never pull for him.Amusingly enough, what this did was just show me just how fucking shit of a character Scara is without constant shields.
>finally get to french region>the main plot point is that french aren't peopleWTF I love genshin now???
>Don't get me wrong. Her design is great and she has unique footwear. But her gameplay almost scream Albedo.
>>681485310You're not HIM
>>681485210Only if you have furina >>681485310He stopped playing HSR for months because he didn't want a free copy of dr ratio, his autism is strong
>>681485439I mean yea, I'm not a tripfag to begin with and I generally keep my anti-male bias to myself other than shitting on retarded stuff like Mihoyo feeling the need to retelling us Kazuha's backstory multiple times through several events.>>681485451I knew he was retarded but not that retarded. I always just ignore him and wish more did to stop giving him attention.
>>681483589That doesn't let you change anything.
>>681485208Just give glided dreams to everyone. Actually whenever I don't know what to do with resin I just go and farm that domain since it's likely most glided pieces will be useful.
>>681485924Huh could've sworn it let you, maybe they only let you in abyss. IT throws you out to the lobby between each stage so you could do it there instead I guess but less convenient. My bad for assuming Mihoyo would actually be consistent in a feature they recently added for Abyss which seemed perfect for IT.
>>681484669>and you need like 20 good artifact setsNah, on >>681480564 you can see all the artifacts I had on them here. I entirely relied on my kitted out characters like Arlecchino, Clorinde, Cloud Retainer, Raiden, and Kazuha to deal with it. You can see how all over the place my artifacts are on my 4*s and even 5*s that aren't my main damage dealers. I didn't even realize my Sucrose didn't have a fourth VV piece until just now.
>>681485451I won the 50/50.
I don't know how good trial Arlecchino is because I used my own Arlecchino. But I don't have Clorinde so I used the trial one, and she was pretty goodAs long as you have these two characters, you can beat the three boss stages. I destroyed the chicken with trial Clorinde, and the other two bosses with my own Arlecchino.Other stages were all trivially easy. You can pick between multiple enemy encounters, so just pick the one that works for your team. You managed to get your Venti to appear among your playable characters? Pick the stage that says "enemies are easily grouped", and so on.
>>681486852Congrats!I lost the 50/50 for Clorinde at 65 pity, but then got her at 40 guaranteed pity. Yesterday I won the 50/50 for Sigewinne at 15 pity.
>>681486852windowed?
>that shadow faceThey sure love adding these kind of details to the characters, huh.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m-ffWYZHexc
>>681455897it's not endgame the devs are just trying to force niggers to grind up characters they dont even like while hopefully siphoning more money from themother companies are making better anime games now so I dont feel like this needs any help continuing being a shitty visual novel for babies
>>681489072Thank you for your vote of support. We at Tencent has always been the forefront for the democratic revolution of China. We are grateful for (You)r support
>>681489072>abyss>NO THAT'S NOT ENDGAME>teapot>NO THAT'S NOT ENDGAME>tcg>NO THAT'S NOT ENDGAME>theatre>NO THAT'S NOT ENDGAMEyou fags are funny
>>681455897Tell me 1 (one) good reason why we can't pick less than 4 characters at once for parties? I want to do it with just 2 characters and save the other 2 for later, you FUCKING DUMB FUCKS.
>>681489518Because that makes it easier and lowers the barrier of entry when the entire point of the mode is the high barrier of entry but low skill requirement. It's entire design is to make people get more characters and use them.
Okay so, what would the ideal endgame be like ?
>>681489626Based on how everyone seems to talk about endgame content they want minmaxed artifacts as a requirement, enemies that can tank those minmaxed artifacts, being hit more than once to be a death, and something you can run infinitely to make use of your minmaxed artifacts. Essentially, they want something the extreme minority of a minority can even beat.
>>681489438>addict screams and points at nothingweird kek
>>681458523If her buff didn't have a limit she would be completely fucking broken. Her kit is fine, the problem is most party comps don't really have room for her. She's currently glued to Furina. I fully expect at least one Natlan character to be great with her.
>>681485208You're not, retard. Imaginarium Theater is tuned so low that you should be able to easily get through it just throwing some mixed set bonuses around. There's no problem with getting characters ready for it, the actual problem is a lack of artifact loadouts making it a pain in the ass to swap these characters in and out like they want us to.
>>681489913That would be a terrible idea I'm glad no one is listening to them
>>681457920>A child shouldn't have an ass that bigI disagree.
>>681489626Honestly just removing the requirement to have N amount of characters to enter the game mode would probably dispel a majority of the complaints I see about itNothing is stopping you from taking a bunch of undergeared dudes into the abyss and getting rolled over so why not let people bring in their underlevelled filler characters here? It's pretty obvious their goal is to just encourage players to either spend resin on characters they have no intention of using (thus prolonging the time it takes for them to invest in the characters they do care about) or to entice people to roll for more random characters
>>681490378They literally offer you 8 trial characters, no?
>>681457920Well, I guess she's not a child then!
>>681490303anon?
>>681455897>>681469167wtf I want to roll for Siegwinne now
>>681491405what?
Do we know the elements for the next Imaginarium Theater?
>>681491717I'm guessing dendro/pyro for Emilie, maybe Cryo since it has some synergy with burning.
>>681492009That would be perfect for burn melt Ganyu
>>681491717Anemo/Cryo/Hydro
>>681491256The trial characters are only really decent for some of the earlier stages and some of them are just shit. For example Furina does not even use VV.
>>681493139>FurinaFaruzan.
>>681491575He's asking for the full video or a link
>>681493347I remember roasties claiming they would quit or kill themselves if the new archon was another loli. I think that was funnier.
>>681491256It's up to 6 trial characters since there's the possibility you might already own some of them
>>681491717______________Physical_________________
>>681491717It's Hydro/Cryo/Anemo in the 4.8 beta so assume that's what we get unless it gets changed
>>681493602My Ayaka will shine
>>681493490Considering it looks like we're getting 2 hebes in a row, It ain't looking good for them in Snezhnaya
>>681493139Not sure why you would expect Faruzan to have VV. No one builds her with VV and Mihoyo almost always puts Noblesse or whatever new set with the character release is on trial characters.>>681492009Melt with Burning is such a shitshow compared to what it could've been hadn't they gone out of their way to nerf it. And it wouldn't work well in IT at all unless you opt to reset constantly to get the right characters to set it up, of which there's hardly many because of the need for constant pyro application of which there's not many options. It was legit better when dendro by itself could maintain burning as long as you didn't expend the pyro application before dendro reapplied it. Something which Ganyu could not do by herself unless you used her burst AND E and timed a charged shot within the timeframe of a DMC ult tick or Nahida E retrigger. But keeping it like that would let Cryo actually work with Dendro on par with all other dendro reactions and make the element not shit. Instead it's borderline shit now. Thanks Dendro, thanks retards at Mihoyo.
>>681493393
>>681491717Here
>>681494467>Not sure why you would expect Faruzan to have VV. No one builds her with VVBecause most people who use Faruzan use her as a Wanderer support. The trial version is c0 so she barely has any use in that regard. She'd legitimately be better off as a VV bot so an Electro or Pyro carry can do more damage.
>>681494672>The trial version is c0 so she barely has any use in that regardDid you even play the theater? Trial Wormderer and Faruzan are already strong enough to beat every fight.
>>681494898is there any point to maximize point / star in theater or I just need to do the stage within time limit for monthly reward
>>681495752Bragging rights only
>>681494672Made me go check what set the trial version actually uses because I assumed she used Noblesse as it's the standard set they always go to for support characters and it wouldn't even be bad in this situation.>2p Glad>3p VVI uh what? If they were gonna aim for a DPS set they should've just given her a full Desert set like Scarafag. I can't even understand why they did this because it's so out of their norm for what they usually do.>>681495752The points are just for rolling for the characters and buffs during the stages, Stars are for bragging rights on your profile. Point count is only visible to yourself so not really any bragging rights to be had with it, don't think you can see others points even on the hoyolab page.
Genshin/wuthering bros, how do you deal with the kernel level anticheat? Is there any workaround to play those games on PC without installing this bullshit?
>>681495969>>681496243thanks
>>681496497It's a non-issue. If you're scared of the Chinese government stealing your data then I can reassure you, they already do.
>>681496497Play on Linux to avoid it entirely or alternatively don't be schizophrenic The game's like four years old at this point, if it actually did anything you would've heard about it by now
Luv the slvg.
>>681475821>Xi's chokeholdno, it's mihomo cucking themselves
Mhhhh... I'm reading this thread and I everyone is praising the new mode, yet I can't help but genuinely ask... am I the ONLY person in this entire existential cosmos who thinks Imaginary Theater was... easy?
>>681498314You must have stuff kitted out well. I thought it was around the level of floor 11 of the Abyss except you don't have characters who are as developed as what you normally take to floor 11. There were three floors I was stuck on for like 5-10 minutes each because I couldn't meet one of the two optional requirements with my kit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2P7_0hVFAM
>>681498314It's easy if you are a long time player who built a large number of characters, but I can see new players and braindead metaniggers who only ever built two Zajef approved teams struggling.
>>681499124And I find that extremely pleasing
>>681498314Nah I really like it but it was indeed easy. Realistically it's never gonna be as hard as Abyss because of all the restrictions, however I do think that they're gradually gonna increase the difficulty and that it's only really easy now because it's the first iteration where they introduce use of it works.
>>681486276>IT throws you out to the lobby between each stage so you could do it there instead I guess but less convenientYou can't change things at all once the challenge begins. That means every character needs their own set of artifacts.
>>681483615same and I recommend you remake that webm with the mod that removes the skirt and back flaps
If you mod a fucking gacha game you're mentally ill.
>>681498314No, far from it. If you can find the threads from yesterday (when it came out) you'll also find that most people say it felt too easy for what is supposed to be an endgame mode.A majority of the complaints just come from people who lack the characters to participate or dislike not being able to play their favourites.
>>681499471Don't worry, I modded starsector, sims 4 and Rome total war 2 so I am surely mentally stable even though I modded genshin
>>681489323Not here too... Just stop spamming.
>>681499423Nah, it's more exiting when you catch a glimpse of it
>>681499626
>>681498314Most people actually able to do it find it pretty easy. And I hope it stays that way as the "endgame" aspect of it is the character threshold requirement and stars bragging rights. With the way next abyss is looking I sure wish Floor 12 was going the same way where rewards aren't obnoxious to get and the obnoxious part is just having profile bragging rights because Abyss is a fucking chore.
>>681499471>because i say so!
>>681499296>however I do think that they're gradually gonna increase the difficulty and that it's only really easy now because it's the first iteration where they introduce use of it works.I would disagree. The Spiral Abyss only needs a handful of characters which is why they constantly bounce around with its difficulty. The Imaginarium Theater needs like 14 characters + friends + bonus characters all kitted out. That's a hard ask for even players who played for a year even on the lower difficulties where you only need eight or whatever it was. While I have tons of characters above 70 that doesn't mean I have the artifacts necessary for them let alone leveled up for them and I've been playing two and a half years now. Granted, I don't like farming artifacts at all, but I've still done it from time to time and prefer to focus on upgrading characters and their talents instead.
>>681499471I actually agree with that, unironically. Gacha games are already soft porn. If you're going further than that, you're clearly troubled
>event caught me when I had almost all of my characters stripped of artifacts for a major check and overhaul (and refarming where needed)Lmao worst possible time, I am not reequipping everyone with the old shit, skipping for now I suppose
>>681499973you did silly billy
>>681500108>genshin>softcore pornI wish.
>>681500138Anon even if he goes back on his claim of asking, I did care for and was entertained by your response!
How do you reply to pic related without sounding mad
>>681500383How's that abyss clear?
>>681500383Well he got you there, but you should still tell him that he's a retard for not using Anemo Traveller.
>>681500383Yeah, just pull characters you want, but don't be surprised if you can't play the game mode that requires you to build many charactersI played 2 years before starting to 36* the spiral abyss because I literally didn't care
>>681496862>they’re already doing it so let them do it harder/easier
>>681500108There's nothing pornographic about Sigewinne's delicious modest round butt.
>>681500364o gosh I'm glad! thank you
>>681500383You can use Traveler (Anemo/Electro). Most probably don't realize because theirs is Dendro or Geo since they are the only good elements for them.
>>681500383you really only need a single DPS and a bunch of fillers for that mode since you already get 3 from trial
>>681471154Dammit, why litterbox for pictures? Normal catbox is right there. Now I can't get these cause I actually wanted some sleep for once. Oh well.
>>681494651looking forward to seeing furiner's theatre lines
>>681502069What lines?
>>681493347wonder what they'd be saying if it was a guy instead
>>681457256why is pepe's butt so shiny?
>>681502127Characters on rotation show up in the lobby and have some lines.
>>681455897Is the medic slug worth for anything but coom?
>>681502127The last 4 characters you use in any stage (that you cleared) will be in the theater room for you to interact with.>>681499307Hah, that sucks I guess. Doesn't affect me and I figured they would at least be benign enough on tat aspect but guess not. As others have already said, just slap random shit on with good main stat and you'll be fine. Til they make it harder anyway.
>>681502127the ones from these
>>681502316She's a functional group healer, so she works where other healers would.She has no niche whatsoever though, you could usually get away with running any other healer. She feels like a "competent" 4 star like Yaoyao.
>>681502448i wonder if these are canon or not how would you get some characters to come all the way here to some random library
>>681459956Isn't Baizhu a shielder?I don't need a dedicated healer for my Furina cause mines c2 though
>>681502706>She has no niche whatsoever thoughShe does, the problem is almost every comp that has a strong off-field skill damage character either wants multiple(which devalues Sigewinne because her stacks run out quickly), prefers a shielder over a healer or already has the healer role covered.Because of all that she's basically only desired in Furina comps where nobody else can eat stacks.
Why is MHY trying to court me with wishes?
>>681503623oh yeah I need to preload this so i can get a low uid
>>681502301>>681502373>>681502448Okay thought they had extra lines during combat
I just noticed event duration are shorter now.
>>681455897I finally unninstalled, the current state of the game for me is so bad that it actually surpassed my feeling of sunk cost that i had of playing it for 3 years straight. Even if the mode is decent, if this is all they have to show after 3 years of absolutely nothing, there are games that treat me better out there.
>>681504025you're going to miss Natlan and the summer event
Wasn't that bad. How did I do?
>>681504108Yeah, i am, but i just don't care anymore, I'm hoping ZZZ is good enough to fill genshin's space in my day to day but we'll see. The last summer event was absolutely terrible and i fucking hate every single event that has Klee in it because the already boring writing somehow always takes a nosedive when she's around, I doubt they'll actually make what i want which is Raiden and Nahida in summer wear having fun with the traveler in the archipelago from the first summer event
>>681504025Don't give up hope. We at Tencent and our allies, the US and Taiwan, will be by your side in this struggle
>>681504264I wish I had used Lynette, Beidou and Sucrose now that I think of it
>>681504025>MMO tourist throws a tantrumOkay bye.
>>681484310are geo and anemo the least powerful elements?
Whoa, special guests showed up:
>>681504929They're not very strong but the weakest (now) is cryo
>>681504929The worst is currently Cryo followed by Anemo then Geo.
>>681457256They moded genshin? How long until the ccp asassinates them
>>681505061
>>681505061Wh-What is Jinhsi doing there?!
>>681461271He loves cunny too much
>>681505061They're finally in a good game
>>681505180It was modded since day one, retard-kun.
>>681505419Can i mod in unlimited wishes?
>>681505419>since day onenot really, there was a method for a bit post launch that got you banned then there was that melon loader shit that would also get you banned so nothing viable for a while until GIMI which was like last yearhere's to hoping ZZZ can get it day one thoe
>>681505574No retard.
>>681505574mods are strictly visual. it works solely because it never directly interacts with the game (otherwise hoyo would freak) by hijacking what's supposed to render before it renders and replacing it with the modded content
>>681505574Yes, it's called a server emulator. Do zoomers not know anything these days? We've been pirating and modding fucking WoW when it was in beta.
Wait, I don't get it. I reached 7/8 stars but still got all 8 rewards.
>>681505968Don't you know? The stars are a lie.
>>681505968Stars are just for bragging.
>>681506513well they should've said so before i raged for an hour
>>681506116he tried to warn us
Her name is what now?
Imagine rolling for a fake melusine
>>681507269>Not rolling on the fake melusine so you can leave 1 star feedback complaining about her not being an actual melusine every surveyIf you want something you have to work for it.
>>681464842>peak performance dehyahot
>>681455897Preordained reminder
>>681507372I've been asking for a battle theme trigger on/off option since the game released and we still do not have it so fuck them and their surveys
>>681507060Brest Friend
>>681506613If something as simple as that made you rage for an hour, I don't think them saying anything would've helped
>>681506936
>>681507653>melusine>panties
>If something as simple as that made you rage for an hour, I don't think them saying anything would've helped
>>681507269true, we wanted to roll for the kid
Proving my point as far as I'm concerned
>>681507794>event was 5 years ago>still not a slightest hint on what he was talking aboutGod, I love playing genshseng for the lore!
SHOULDN'T OF COM HERE
>>681508154There have actually been a lot of hints but they're not being shoved in your face. Genshin has a ton of lore available in-game that hasn't been directly addressed yet.
Where is my government assigned melusine wife?
>>681508267it's shouldn't've, ma'am
>pick OP character from whale friend>exhaust all character addition cards>still didn't get itScammed once again.
>>681507794WTF why didnt anyone tell me hes a flat earther!?
>>681507794TRVKE
>>681509873>reddit/femoid-tier "humor"
>>681455897Sigewine looks like THAT?
>>681510325i like watching her ass cheeks move while playing
>>681510601What a bouncy tail.
>>681455897I generally liked it but I do think that the strict element restrictions plus the vigor and the RNG on which characters you get is too much.Vigor and RNG combined already make you build off-meta teams but having half of your roster off limits typically ends up with maybe 3 characters that work well together and one that's just thrown in to fill the space.Allowing one more element would probably improve it.
>>681510601Japan has that pool. West has casting couch.Teyvat has the casting ladder.
>>681494651>Hydro>Nahida
>>681510325I look like that and I say that
>>681510601designed to "relieve" the entire carceral population of Meropide, and the guardians too
>>681511276>Teyvat has the casting ladder.kek i think i've seen one for every character now
I want Sigge but I also want Nilou next patch, and Nilou is sexier, idk what to do.
>>681512373I love Jean like you wouldn't believe
>>681512667>transparency filterNigga your mods?
>>681512373>>681512667It's a shame they stopped doing proper shading on female characters because the Genshin team is full of fujos now.
>>681490005>If her buff didn't have a limit she would be completely fucking broken.I didn't say anything about a limit, she should have just buffed on-fielders making her viable in more teams. nobody wants such a niche character.
most "last region" characters were fucking shite because Mihomo knows people just save their primos and bank accounts for the new region's characters just around the corner, change my mind
>>681513437She fucks hilichurls
>>681456796I hate gacha games but I'll play this one if you can link me a talisman pasties/maebari qiqi skin
>>681455897i like it, nice to have something less of a pain in the ass to play every now and thenit is pretty funny the amount of people i've seen complain not being able to get past stage 3, meanwhile i was using the trial arle and chlorinde because i haven't finished farming for them yet and i managed to beat the whole thing (only 3 stellas but who gives a shit)
sexwinne
humiliation ritual
>>681513486what about this one?
>>681490005>I fully expect at least one Natlan character to be great with her.also it doesn't seem like you even understand her kit, she doesn't really scale in any way she is just a healer that does a small bit of single target damage. she barely even applies hydro.
My hot summer wife!
>>681513437how's the realy "last region" character emilie looking? hopefully not too good my primos are pretty drained after all these hot babes
>>681514016>also it doesn't seem like you even understand her kitI fully understand her kit anon. Sounds like you don't understand how good flat damage buffs are. I already explained why she's currently limited and it's not because her kit is bad. It's because almost every character that can actually make good use of her kit prefers comps that devalue her buff. Furina is currently the only exception.
>>681513437>Kazuha>Heizou>KiraraThat's 66% good character rate. You are objectively wrong
>>681514346>Sounds like you don't understand how good flat damage buffs areshe has the weakest flat buffer in the game so no you don't understand shit
>>681514337She's looking like a pretty good pull currently. Essentially Dendro Fischl. She buffs Burning reactions but since the newer beta patch they allowed her to do other reactions so now if you need a constant Dendo sub DPS that isn't Kusanali she's the one to go for.
>>681513759this but unironically, they really hate the playerbase
>>681513698https://kemono.su/fanbox/user/1976989/post/7572608
I spent the whole day playing Genshin Impact yesterday
>>681514691You must be a 14 years-old girl then
Bikewinnehttps://youtu.be/hubImOflp_k?si=7txplTPdp8XO2Ca0
>>681514520>she has the [HEADCANON]go calculate shenhe's buffs then sigewinne's then respond again
>>681514691Same
>>681514945shenhe's buff multiplies per character and she boosts damage % AND does damage herself AND shenhe is shit
>>681514548She’s probably going to be shit. She’s like Nilou where her reaction sucks so they gave her good numbers but doesn’t end up working in 70% of the abyss cycles. Hard skip
>>681515009Based and siggepilled
>>681515112Bloom also sucks w/o Nilou you doofus
>>681514520>she has the weakest flat buffer in the gameWhy do retards feel the need to talk about shit they don't understand? You're a fucking moron. An invested Sigewinne adds several hundred thousand damage per rotation in Furina comps.
>>681515087shenhe's buff literally only works for your dps character because they're the only one's built with crit and dmg bonus AND she only gives you 5-7 quills. this is why she sucks. now once again, calc their flat damage bonus and get back to me
>>681515087>>681514945Shenhe's skill has almost half the cooldown too.
No way...
>>681514605They're trying to divert players over to their other games. HSR is easier to make content for and ZZZ is their latest (soon to be failed) project which they still like because it's closer to the honkai aesthetics compared to generic fantasy genshin There's nothing that infuriates Dawei more than the quick cashgrab game they made just to fund their real dream game ending up becoming the global phenomena that spiralled them into the massive company they are today
>>681515351and why would this matter? the only character where this would matter is ayaka and every other cryo dps gets screwed because they need to stay on field.
>>681515087If we're theory crafting, Shenhe only applies her buff to ice. Sigewinne applies it to skill damage in general. And Yun Jin applies it to normal attacks. All these character abilities are situational, but I imagine stacking buffs would lead to unique teams depending on whatever new characters appears.
>>681515112The thing is that now she works with other reactions and we know how the potion bottles work in practice. Sure, she's Burning focused but if you need constant Dendro application it's Kusanali or who? Yo-yo? Yuegui lasts a while but not that long and can get stuck hitting one single enemy. Dendro Traveler is energy hungry and requires a hydro reaction for the burst not to disappear as fast as you can blink.
>>681515390>soon to be failedsomething i don't know about ZZZ? or is this just some plain doomfaggotry before it's even out yet?
>>681515347shenhe is indeed shit but you build her with damage too and kazuha can proc them or you can use her in full cryo teams, she has some flexibility sigewinne has no flexibility, does practically no damage, has no buffs>>681515276t. retard>>681515462because not everyone plays like you, also wriothesly or ganyu can use her as a support and there are all those meme chongyun teams >>681515603shenhe doesn't just buff instances of damage though she buffs cryo itself and she does way more damage and despite all of this she is still bad
>>681515640'someone' speculated that the pre-reg numbers are just bots because 'something ain't right'
>>681515603also yunjin buffs attack speed and normal attack damage
>>681515709>shenhe is indeed shit but you build her with damage tooyou do not build shenhe for damage, she's built for atk for her quills and energy to burst. quills from her contribute jackshit damage. this is the same for kazuha.sigewinne's stacks are not only more, they're not limited to cryo
>>681515709>t. retardhttps://streamable.com/vsqwp9Your concession? Accepted. Let me know when you're able to push off-field skill damage above 100k per hit.
People would probably know more about Shenhe if she actually got a banner.
>>681515709>because not everyone plays like yonigger you realize you're metafagging right? so in this case, people use shenhe to buff their ayaka's not chongyun meme stuff or off field ganyu. shenhe especially sucks for wrio because he can literally only get 7 stacks off of her skill a rotation(ayaka can at least get 10)
People shouldn't speak about stuff they don't know
>>681455897>using "enjoying" and Genshit in the same sentence
>>681515909>you do not build shenhe for damage,maybe you don't but you're retarded, as much as possible you should build her for damage because it boosts dps more than just boosting quill procs, this is doubly so if you only use her with +1 cryo since her skill scales on how many people are in the party>quills from her contribute jackshit damage.even if you do atkatkatk her own quill damage isn't much less than sigewinne's entire 18s damage contribution lmaoyou are retarded>>681515943>can't do math>didn't post stats>probably also doesn't understand single target iscope more with your brick>>681516101this isn't ana rgument
>>681516245>even if you do atkatkatk her own quill damage isn't much less than sigewinne's entire 18s damage contribution lmaoIt's actually more.
>>681456796Post Navia build and highest shotgun dmg pls
>>681516245>nothing to sayConcession remains accepted. You are dismissed. Educate yourself before you vomit your ignorance at me, retard.
>>681516245I'm trying to think of team you're thinking of because there aren't that many and it's not super flexible as of now. Limiting yourself to mono cryo is in itself difficult.
>>681516512how did I concede? you're probably the retard who doesn't know that wriothsely can melt a lot of those quills and he blows through them if there is more than one target. do you know who isn't vaping her proc damage often and is a brick?>>681516615like I said, shenhe is shit. but she's not sigewinne tier shit.
>>681516245post your shenhe build that has a good crit ratio and high dmg%, go on. if you're going to be a metafag back it up. or you can link me a video from a person on youtube that does. shenhe does not build crit and dmg% to use her quills retardgod.>his is doubly so if you only use her with +1 cryothe common cryo team is cryo/shenhe/hydro/anemo, where does the 1+ cryo fit?>even if you do atkatkatkwill still be less because someone with good stats using the stacks contributes more than someone with terrible stats using it
>>681513759The average genshin puzzle is easier tho
>>681516695>bringing up ShenheAnon this is about Sigewinne. Don't move the goalposts out of desperation just because you've been backed into a corner and shown irrefutable evidence regarding flat damage.
>>681516245>this isn't ana argument>i dont like it so it"s not an argumentlole
So what do the poses do? I bought Jean and Raiden but i don't even know what they do
>>681517164You can use them in camera mode
>>681517164Anon they're poses. What do you think poses do?
>>681516742>he thinks I rolled>he doesn't understand how aoe scales and thinks single target is somehow better>he can't even do simple math himselftop level retard just arguing because he's emotional over rolling a brick>the common cryo team is cryo/shenhe/hydro/anemo, where does the 1+ cryo fit?are you mentally challenged? I'm talking about that team.>will still be less because someone with good stats using the stacks contributes more than someone with terrible stats using itis this retard drunk? less than sigewinne? how? she uses her skill twice as much.>>681516883and this retard can't even keep up, you were the ones who brought up shenhe trying to compare shitwinne to someone you thought was worse, but she isn't worse.>>681516897where did he make an argument? he said something retarded about wriothsely and no shit we're talking about meta and viability. what is shitwinne's meta? >use in one team where she is still shit or don't use at all
>>681516883There's merit for comparison. They're both 5 star situational buffers with pros and cons. Shenhe gets bonus points for being able to apply cryo off-field, while Sigewinne gets points for healing and role consolidation. In both cases, you have to have a team in mind to use them.
Is this the boar princess?
>>681515943Doesn't Seeg only increase skill damage by 2800 10 times? Doesn't seem like it'd make that much of a difference when you're already whaling and doing 100k+
>>681517365>youIncorrect. I never brought up Shenhe, all I did was state that flat damage in general has a lot of value if it can be applied correctly.>>681517397They're not really comparable though. Shenhe is so limited in her role that she's basically a complete non-factor outside of some dual c6 Ayaka showcases. This is a world of a difference compared to characters like Yun Jin and Sigewinne who provide very strong buffs that a large number of characters can benefit from.
Stop replying to the lowercase retard
>>681517616>Doesn't Seeg only increase skill damage by 2800 10 times?Anon, flat damage is affected by numerous damage modifiers. It's not just adding 2800 damage. This is the reason why Ningguang's shitty little jades can go from dealing 5k x2 damage to 20k x2 damage.
>>681517365>so you dont have shenhe nor knows how she functions>hes retarded and thinks shenhe"sis somehow an AOE buffer>he cant do math himself he justs talks out his assshut the fuck retard you were the one that tried saying shenhe was better yet you dont even own the unit>im talking about that teamso the team where shenhe doesnt have the stats to use quills retard>is this retard drunkclearly you are because you think shenhe has the stats required to make her using quills relevant over your subdps like furina who is built properly do more damage
>neuvi(C1)/siggy/furina/kazCould it work?
>>681461218The funniest part are players that only invest everything on the same 4-8 characters and now are having a melty. Its so good
>>681517646In the case with Shenhe, her make or break will probably be what kind of character is the cryo archon. That and whatever new Cryo dps will come out, but the cryo archon is what everyone is waiting for if you're hyperinvested into doing cryo damage.
did they really locked the new camera poses as a reward for the new abyss game?
>>681517365BASED BASED BASEDbased as fuck.roll for children characters = you're a pedoyour opinion doesn't matter.
>>681517365>where did he make an argument? he said something retarded about wriothselyyour argument is thAT shenhe gives more damage you braindead that's that'S the topic of discussion
>he's samefagging after getting BTFO
>he is crying about his "victory" after having proven to not own either unit
>>681517568It seems like it. And that thing about speaking inside people's mind? That's probably the witch that helped the Traveler 2 times
>>681517397the problem with sigewinne is that she only does her tiny amount of proc damage and heals while not really fitting in barely any teams. she doesn't scale AT ALL. with shenhe you at least have meme teams with some viability and she has a small amount of room to grow since you can more easily set up reactions. I think both are bad but sigewinne is a new low.>>681517646>Incorrect. I never brought up Shenhe, all I did was state that flat damage in general has a lot of value if it can be applied correctly.not really especially when you aren't doing reactions.>>681517783>Anon, flat damage is affected by numerous damage modifiers. It's not just adding 2800 damage.this post proves how retarded this person is.it is literally only applying x damage, the only thing that improves that damage is vaping or melting it.>>681517806>shut the fuck retard you were the one that tried saying shenhe was betterbecause you brought her up thinking it was a gotcha when it isn't, I said she was the worst flat damage buffer and I am right and proved it.>so the team where shenhe doesnt have the stats to use quills retardyou build her with those stats, that is literally what I was saying you moron.>clearly you are because you think shenhe has the stats required to make her using quills relevant over your subdps like furina who is built properly do more damageno one said anything like this LMAO you are mentally handicapped.and how are you going to cope when there is a strong off-field cryo dps the way furina is for hydro skill damage? shenhe will be even better then.meanwhile sigewinne will benefit nothing from a strong on-field anything because she only buffs -off-field damage.are you getting it now you fucking idiot?>>681517992it's a fact.
>>681518037>>681518121Kill yourself garbagewinne pedophile.You got destroyed and now you're assmad. Simple as.
>>681517946Most of them look like hoyo just paused their idle animations for their poses, you aren't missing that much
>>681514769or a 35 year old man, the main genshin audience
>>681518176>because you brought her up thinking it was a gotcha when it isn'tmy first post in the reply chain is the one where you stated shenhe gives more flat damage dumbo>you build her with those statsshehne does not build crit or dmg% you ignorant tard stop discussing units you do not use>no one said anything like thisyou literally are arguing shenhe giving quills to herself means her damage is higher dumbfuck read your posts>how are you going to cope with my headcanonit would still be worse because freeze needs an anemo and a hydro retard if anything shenhe would get dropped first are you this stupid?
>>681518264Dilate your hole faggola, I don't see any arguments from you so far.
>>681518176>it is literally only applying x damage, the only thing that improves that damage is vaping or melting itNta but why are you trying to argue over something when you don't even know how the game works?
>>681518176>this post proves how retarded this person is.>it is literally only applying x damage, the only thing that improves that damage is vaping or melting it.Completely fucking wrong, retard. Stop shitting up this thread with your ignorance. Flat damage benefits from damage%, crit damage, defense reduction, resistance shred, etc. It's the whole reason why Aggravate/Spread is so powerful for certain characters. See: My Clorinde who typically only does 3-5k per hit if I just activate her skill and start shooting something with no reactions. This is almost purely due to the benefit of flat damage increases(from her passive and Aggravate.)
>>681502190You aren't wondering at all. You know exactly what they would be saying.
>>681518176>it's a fact.that shenhe only has a good use with ayaka we know
>>681518176>it is literally only applying x damageBro you don't even play the game. Are you actually 20 IQ?
Can I play it on the steam deck?
>>681518475>my first post in the reply chain is the one where you stated shenhe gives more flat damage dumboI can't keep up with all you retards making the same arguments, either way I didn't bring her up>shehne does not build crit or dmg% you ignorant tard stop discussing units you do not usethis is true only if you doing build her for it which is stupid>you literally are arguing shenhe giving quills to herself means her damage is higher dumbfuck read your poststhan sigewinne's damage output, yes, which is true. see the picture here >>681516450the same built f2p shenhe will do closer to 80k with only her skill damage + personal procs even if you DON'T build her for damage. just atkatkatk. and this is ignoring her buff going to ayaka or whoever.>it would still be worse because freeze needs an anemo and a hydro retard if anything shenhe would get dropped first are you this stupid?she doesn't need either of those lol>>681518556>>681518562>>681518724incredible, flat doesn't mean flat anymore
>>681518604Xwitterfags are going to seethe when the new dendro boy is dark as cyno
>>681518562also i'm just over here laughing>he rolled for brickonde4 stars would have cleared faster
>>681518176You're ignoring role consolidation. She's a healer who also buffs. Meaning, you have room on your team for more buffers or other dps's if you so wish.
>gets BTFO>pivots to shitposting other charactersThanks for making this easy, retard.
>>681518891I hope that was a mistranslation that he's actually white
>>681518863>I can't keep up with all you retards making the same arguments, either way I didn't bring her upyou explicitly stated her flat damage is higher, it doesn't matter when you made this statement.>this is true in every situation. i asked you to post a shenhe build that has good crit ratios and dmg% yet you haven't because it doesn't exist.>than [headcanon]you're a retard and is unaware that the image you posted doesn't even have furina's burst active because quills scale with dmg bonus you dumbfuck, play the gamef2p shenhe has no stats to use her quills on herself and only gives 5-7 for wrio or ganyu>she doesn't need eitheryeah she just needs a damage loss running no VV or freeze for the artifact set
I want to have sex with Kuki
>>681518863>literally doesn't know how flat damage worksWhy were you arguing the whole thread without knowing the foundation of flat damage?
>>681519240Dunning Kruger.
>>681519015she doesn't buff anything, she only adds flat damage to every off-field instance of damage. this isn't a buff it's her own damage. and it's small.so since she's also a healer you compare her to other healers and you'll find that even jean, a standard character, is better because she does more damage and can use VV. and look how many people use her.>>681519163not an argument, I said you couldn't do simple math and you're just proving it. feel free to continue doing that lmao.>yeah she just needs a damage loss running no VV or freeze for the artifact sether strongest teams are melt>>681519240it adds flat damage which you consider her own damage, this damage does not change unless you multiply it with reactions. the crit and dmg% belong to the other characters, that's their damage.
>>681518604the localizers fucking up ONE line by assuming the dendro archon was a guy had disastrous consequences for the twitter community, which of course made for a barrel of laughs for the rest of us
>>681513698>>681514649
>>681519572You got fucked, retard. Stop trying to save face and just admit you were educated.
>>681520195lmao
>>681504929>>681505104>>681505121anemo is the strongest element next to dendro you monkeys
>>681520329anemo is stronger than dendro though
>>681520329>>681520447It's mid.Hydro > Dendro > Electro > Pyro > Anemo > Geo >>> Cryo
>>681519572>it adds flat damage which you consider her own damageAnd gets increased with the proccers own dmg% and crit which shenhe does not build. Yeah you don't play the game, embarrassing.
>>681519572>not an argumenthat's you this whole chain kek, the moment you don't even know how flat damage calculates is the moment you cemented yourself a retard>her strongest teams are meltyeah you don't play. post your ayaka melt team bro
>>681520447>venti is stronger than dendro thoughftfy
>>681520743>>681520846it doesn't increase, it's a flat amount of damage that's added to their kit's damagethe only thing that increases that flat amount is vape or melt.
Hear me out. Physical Xiangling
>>681520846>yeah you don't play. post your ayaka melt team bro
>>681521006a lot of ppl maxed their crescent pike back in 1.x because that was a thing LOL
>>681520984flat damage INCREASES the more crit and dmg% you have retardGODif you give someone with 100% dmg bonus 2000 flat damage they will get 4000 flat damage in total and someone with 0% dmg bonus gets 2000 flat damage
>>681521106>overworld>c2yup you don't play
>>681521153no it doesn't, crit and dmg% increases your flat damage. you are so fucking stupid lmao
>>681521106>Gameplay is in chinese>Menu is in englishWhat a story
>>681521229>no it doesn'talright so we've just been arguing with a retard that doesn't know game mechanics the whole thread. well at least we know who to look out for in the future.
>>681521218it's clearly fucking abyss LMAO>>681521325straight up cope
>>681521371>at least c1 shenhe nowLol keep trying
>>681521334it's hilarious that you can't even understand this formulaflat damage adds to your flat damage which is then multiplied by your statsthat flat damage does not change unless you vape or meltliteral the most basic math but you still don't get it
