Why hasn't anyone developed an alternate scenario WW2 online multiplayer game? I'm sick and tired of seeing multiple iterations of D-Day... Why not have a Japanese D-Day on San Francisco or LA? Would that freshen up the WW2 Sub-Genre?
>>681458660>japanese winning the pacific theater>germans winning the european theater>either of those two invading and occupying the US
>>681458660at most imperial japan would take Hawaii. and the germans would just install a puppet to run the US.
I already get my daily dose of fascism from US politics. I don't need more.
>>681458760Obviously, if it's an alternate scenario it would be based more on fantasy, which is the point of freshening up the WW2 genre. I wouldn't say it's entirely stale. I could use a sequel to BIA Hell's Highway but we don't have any more truthful gritty Gen X'ers hired at these companies to make it a reality. Millenials and Zoomers mostly don't give a fuck about WW2.
>>681458660The idea of Germans being in a place in the 1950s to actually affect the mainland US, much less occupy it, is retarded.
Neither would have defeated the US and the British and Free French would have escaped to Canada
>>681459161>he doesn't know that Nazis had the secret technology to clone several genetically engineered supersoldiersCHOO CHOO
>>681459000Sight me a single American politician that endorse this book, i fucking dare you.
>>681458660wolfenstein>>681459161could be done but op's pic is just a fiction book
>>681458660How about the germans hold at D day and the allies go ahread with their initial plan of saturating the entire central european country side with poison in order to cause mass death and ecological damage.
>>681459161>>681459314I used the image in the OP to demonstrate what I'm saying. If it is a fantasy WW2 who says the USA needs to be an ally, why not neural or ally? Or better yet America goes through a civil war 2 and installs a Caesar monarchy that goes rogue once it discovers the Nuclear Bomb...
>>681458760Hence why I maintain that they adapted the wrong novel
>>681459474UHMMM DONALD TRUMP SAID A MEAN THING SO HE IS LITERALLY HITLER INCARNATE
>>681459161They were sinking ships around New York at one point
cool alternate WW2 premise>germany stabilizes in europe but fails to take britain>russia keeps having civil wars and fails to mount offensive against germany but manages to bog down the german offensive enough for it to stop>the japs never hit pearl harbor and get stuck in a decades long war in chinathen you have the game be about american/british/french team engaging in cold war bullshit against the germans
>>681459474That's a trick question because fascists don't read books, they ban them.
>>681459824Which books did they ban?
>>681459753if you want fantasy sure but if you want a realistic alternate premise you need to change a few of those
>>681459474Kek what a raped and mutilated BITCH.
>>681458660The only way an invasion on us soil would work is if everyone decided they wanted the invaders to win. Otherwise the US people have enough guns and ammo to fight the war themselves if the army fails.
>>681458660>Why hasn't anyone developed an alternate scenario WW2 online multiplayer game?Wolfenstein: The New OrderCommand & Conquer Red Alertjust from the top of my head.
>Uhm this is not realistic!!You faggots are the same as the people you cry about
>>681458660Why in the hell would america ever get taken over if we never entered ww2? Makes no sense. Nobody would have a chance at mounting an invasion against the US ever.
>>681459912Modern day Americans are cowards, the ones with the most guns are the biggest pussies who'd let a nazi rape their daughter if they'd promise to leave them alone.
>>681459864https://www.ala.org/bbooks/censorship-numbers
>>681459708https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=RNFVEfRzzRM
>>681459161If Hitler wasn’t so autistic about le joos they might’ve had a nuclear bomb by then.
>>681459753For any of that to happen america would have to stay out of the war leading to it being neutral if not on the side of germany during that cold war period. But the idea that america wouldnt join the war on the side of communism and global finance means a huge purge of the (((ruling class))) and their collaborators, probably during the great depression.
>>681460031nobody can get the hyper balkanization of america right
>>681459912It's such a ridiculous concept just logistically not even considering anything else. American market economy would be superior to nazi socialism too, it would play out exactly how real history played out with the USSR.
>>681459474Mussolini was a buck broken bitch
>>681460160If he wasn't a anti-semite he wouldn't even become leader
>>681460271He did because of communist terrorists
>>681459314>free FrenchLiteral propaganda outlet hosted in a single room. De Gaulle accomplished nothing at all in WW2.
>>681460271Just find some other group to blame, or at least conceal your final solution until you’re done winning the war
>>681459912An invasion could be feasible if Mexico aligned with the Axis and allowed them to setup operations for an invasion, but even then I doubt it making much headway. The USA would be well aware of it before they could take them by surprise. And this is also assuming they let Axis aircraft and naval powers somehow slip through to let Axis troops stage troops.At best all that can be feasibly managed is >>681459708
>>681460225where are america's weapon and vehicle factories located?
>>681460463Moslty in the rust belt. So northern midwest.
>>681460390There was an actual thing to hate the treaty which many Germans resented and saw as harsh. But no this guy was crazy
>>681460456>a WW2 game about the mexicans teaming up with the axis and aiding them in an invasion of americasounds kino ngl
>>681460041Bill Clinton and Janet Yellen made militias effectively illegal in the early 1990s. you can't fed post online without getting harassed by braindead fbi agents.
>>681458660This makes no sense
>>681460373They fought in north africa, italy and operation dragoon, there were like 200 000 of them, they just wore american uniforms what are you talking about
>>681460540I actually brought that up because Mexico and Germany were actually in talks about aligning but it ended up not going through. It was mostly to distract the US though and cause a minor proxy war with Mexico than anything.
>>681460225Realistically wouldn't it just split into individual state countries?
>>681460523makes it harder to balkanize america like that imo. What's your idea?
I only know like 2 "play as the Nazis" games even
>>681460227>American market economy would be superior to nazi socialism tooyour right up until that point the american market economy even more so than its british predecessor functions as an unstable ponzy scheme that necessitates being a monopoly with extreme amounts of stimulus to keep afloat. It was one reason america fought germany in the first place.>play out exactly how real history played out with the USSRNo it wouldnt the cold war was fake it was a test between two financial control systems by the same people who currently rule over us. America won out becuase making your people fat culturless retards controlled by a web of mega corps is far safer than making them starving cultured people with nothing to lose when fighting the ruling party. Not to mention how easy it was for a strong man to get control of the party and attempt to improve things for the average person.
>>681460620that was ww1 though
>>681460668It would be more likely to split along the dixie line again
>>681460237>Ice cream has Xanthan gum and/or Guar gum, both ingredients linked to cancer risksHe won.
>>681460373This the french during german occupation were literal jewish middle to upper class twits who everyone hates. One of their genius plans was distributing guns to women so theyd shoot german officers and the germans would hopefully not shoot back.
>>681460237Gelato is better anyway
>>681458660How many of you guys lowkey regret not joining them and just taking over the world? I guess even they couldn’t know how bad globalism would get 80 years later.
>>681460596They had a small force that would tag along with the Brits or Americans who would do the actual fighting while de gaulle would get pissy about sovereignty in former French territories even though he lost the entire mainland in a week.
>>681460808Fuck off retard
>>681460936That was the resistance not the free french force
>>681461104the axis literally could not have won even if everything went right for them just purely due to resources
>>681461126>Muh american capitalismRetard is you
>>681461104Did they even want to take over the world?And I'm interested in how the world would be but that's it
>>681461174You don't understand fucking anything and you are the one who is kikebrained if you don't believe in economics and only power
>>681461126the american economy is thrown into turmoil every time some tin pot dictator in a third world country across the globe decides to sell their oil at a $0.01 mark up so their people can afford food.It is not a strong system, it never was, it was the only system that wasnt blown into the stone age after the war.
>>681461202no. Germany wanted to kick the jews out and have their weird aryan schizo club with more food and resources. Soviets were weird maybe it's the jews. Commonwealth wanted to keep control of the world. America did the usual bullshit. Japan wanted to expand for resources. Italy wanted gelato
>>681461202Maybe Japan and Italy but I know Hitler literally offered to withdraw from all non german territory as part of a peace offer with britain
>>681461109De Gaulle was not in charge back then>Brits and Americans did most of the fighting I sure hope so when there were less French, since you know, they had to swim to England to escape their occupied country
>>681461363Fuck off retard
>>681461412>Hitler literally offered to withdraw from all non german territory as part of a peace offer with britainWhat the fuck I've never heard that?
>>681461202>Did they even want to take over the world?It's just flat out propaganda. Germany wanted france and poland which modern NATO niggers don't even give a fuck about anyway. The US carried on their war against the soviets immediately after ww2 ended so it clearly had nothing to do with disagreement in ideology
>>681461421>occupied territory>lower half of france was resistingthe government capitulated
>>681461505I would tell you to lurk but this is /v/, a jew tranny board
>>681461421What? De Gualle was the leader of the Free French the entire time, he started the movement after petain surrendered. The Free French didn’t accomplish anything militarily until after France was liberated by the Brits and Americans.
>>681461104the only way for the germans to win would be to commit to a unprecedented big arrow offensive to the soviet oil fields. but it would of cost a million+ lives.
>>681461527>Germany wanted france and polandis this american education?
>>681460873You are correct, I've been thinking wrong for too long about that.
>>681461239You do not understand the soviet modelyou do not understand the german modelyou do not even understand the american modelyou do not understand how power and economics intersect nor how fake economics really isYou repeat the same kikeslop trite they feed you about the cold war. That america was some great economic powerhouse not because it was the only one surviving and not because it gained favor the with powerful but because it was just that much better than those ebil commies.Grow up read a book stop getting your knowledge about the world from after school specials.
>>681461617He said De Gaulle lost the entire mainland in a week
>>681460237>>681459897>>681459824where did you say you were from again?
>>681461671>Germany occupies France and Poland based on territorial claims and grievances from WW1Are you pretending this didn't happen? I'm not even saying it was wrong, they had justification to do so IMO
>>681461712Fuck off retard
>>681461927>the canadians were the ones who sold out america to the nazis
>>681461856do you know what were the grievances? Do you know what the territories were? Germany wanted to get back their territories not all of france or poland as your reply suggested
>dude the le heckin naziss
>>681461856Germany occupies france because the french declared war on them and lost they planned on returning all its territory.Germany invades poland because the polish refused any form of negotiation due to british interference and planned to take back the territory that was ethnically 90% german. Also poland was in the middle of ethnically cleansing these territories which is why they invaded.
>>681461927a true nightmare
>>681461927All the women would flee to the Canadian Corridor to become Canadian Corridor Cock Concubines and the fascists would lose everything
>>681462057Yes retard I know. Why are you so fucking butthurt and desperate to make an argument out of nothing when I havent even said anything wrong?
>>681462057They wanted lebensraum, are you Chamberlain?
>>681461640They could've won by solidifying their control over Europe by doing an immediate ceasefire with Britain as soon as the French were done, then spending 10 years building up their economy, tech, and solidifying their rule. They'd be the defacto european power and after that much time they'd have jet airfcraft and long range missiles to defend against the inevitable soviet conflict (Stalin would have attacked them sooner or later no matter what), possibly even nuclear weapons.Hell, at that point they could even talk America into supporting them against Soviet aggression (America had their own camps too, which they could use as political ammo).Really the only reason they lost WW2 was because they kept opening new fronts everywhere thinking they were unbeatable. They made too many enemies and got beaten.
>>681461927>Implying canada of all places would be independent from foreign influence
>>681462173You dont know what that word mean and what policies actually followed. Do you believe the lie by "Gods chosen" that the germans thought they were the "Master race" too?
>>681462231>Really the only reason they lost WW2 was because they kept opening new fronts everywhere thinking they were unbeatable. They made too many enemies and got beaten.Pretty much this
>>681462231The soviets planned to invade them in july 1941 though so they didn't have that long. Plus didn't they get dragged into africa and stuff because of mussolini being retarded
>>681462110>implying canadian corridor concubines didn't whore themselves out for quality double-RAKING by tojo and hans
>>681462173that's their autistic shit nothing to do with france and poland>>681462163nigga you say>Germany wanted france and polandnow>but it's only two small territories that were mineral rich and the germans had been kicked out because of ww1 so i'm akualy rightand i'm the butthurt one?
>>681462231They tried making a ceasefire with Britain like 30 times. Churchill needed to be assassinated for anything to change.
>>681462347they literally called themselves super humans
>>681462231They tried multiple times the brits refused anything approaching a peace agreement. The financial powers declared war on germany and the soviet union was preparing an all out offensive which would have overrun europe. This is why they acted so swiftly.
>>681461104I always wonder if people would have appreciated their influence as much thoughsame as JP media being a JP person
>>681462231britain couldn't accept the ceasefire and america had some interests in aiding them
>>681462447No they didnt, the master race libel is another example of the big lie they went on about. Every race had its super humans and sub humans, and every race could be a master race by focusing and refining what made them good. It was not a creed of racial supremacy like the projection of Gods chosen people would have you believe.
>>681462526Imagine the video games though
>>681462429To be fair it was an international jewish cooperative effort to destroy the German nation since before Churchill was even born. The unification of Germany in the 1800s prompted this action by ashkenazis who previously held power in and profited from the fractured independent German states
>>681458660Hoi4 has plenty of alt history mods
>>681461505Nobody with a brain thought he was being honest. Hitler was devolving into full schizo as time went on and couldn't be counted to be held to his word, he had already betrayed several verbal agreements at the time he made that promise.Never get your history from /pol/. They're so biased even the MSM seems an honest alternative.
>>681459161it could have been done in a timeline where the Germans and Russians cooperated instead of betraying each other.
>>681462821Okay kike Surely him sending delegates to england during and before the war only for them to be imprisoned and tortured for the rest of their life wasnt an act of good faith.>he had already betrayed several verbal such as?
>We just want german territories trust me bro>Annex all the czech>What do you mean you are refusing poland we only want danzig
>>681462942such as building ships with specs way over the ones that were permitted. It's like a country now heavily investing in biowarfare
>>681462883It would have been if not for the communist revolution. Whites vs. Reds is not just figurative, the Whites were usually of German descent while Reds were often Asiatic mutts.
>>681462959underrated postmade more funny by the fact no one cared about czech
>>681458760Alternate history doesn't always HAVE to make sense anon. Some people want the interesting visuals of "Germanified Americana" even if in history their navy was meh compared to the British Navy, and reliant mainly on U-Boats.Or giving Japan cheat codes to actually deal with China quick enough to even think about going to say, Australia/Hawaii, let alone MAINLAND North America.Sure the stuff that has a probability of happening are interesting as well, but sometimes we just want a interesting setting for sake of it. Worked for Nu-Wolf before Youngblood.
>>681462959Prussia is German clay.
>>681462959>>Annex all the czech>your country's economy improves tenfold and your people prosperWOWWWWWW NAZIS REALLY?
>>681459474>MAMA MIA! HITLER HELP, I CANNOT TAKE ON MEN WITH SPEARS WITH MUSKETS WITH MY SHITTY MECHANIZED ARMY!
>>681463193was china that strong?
>>681463291Is this true, and does an abnormal demand for steel possibly affect anything?
>>681458660>this is what chuds dream about at night while cumming their undieswhat the actual fuck
>>681462959niggers really here defending czechoslovakia when the czechs were a minority oppressing various majorities in their country.Hitler also gave hungary and the czechs their land back he took back german bohemia.
>>681459864"You Should Cut Off Your Dick For Fun" by John Money
>>681460237>Due misurini? DUE MISURINI?!
Germany also wasted a ton of resources on bullshit projects that went nowhere, like giant concrete fortresses or 200/500/1000 ton tanks (Land Cruisers).They had some insane tech either completed or planned by 1945 that only weren't useful because they had no fuel or material to build them. They had fully electronic subs that could operate in full silence and completely submerged, radar impervious jet bombers, etc.>>681462367>>681462460Soviets planning to Germany is a myth created by a soviet defector. In reality they just had their high rank commanders purged around the time Hitler attacked them. They had to get military leaders shipped back from the gulags so they can mount a defense. It was a clusterfuck.It is true that Soviets would have attacked Germany no matter what, but not so early as 1941 July, that would have been absurd.
>>681463437>Is this trueYes fag
>>681463445just this chud.
>>681459314The British wouldn't have needed to escape because the Germans were never making it across the channel. Even if they somehow beat Stalin and convinced the US to stop giving monetary aid, they still would only have gotten a negotiated peace to avoid spending a decade staring angrily across the sea at each other.
>>681461104No anon. I'm not join an organization that would see me as no more free of a person than a cog in a machine; because you don't like that we call them black people and not niggers, and that a woman is entitled to fuck up her own life as much as we men are able to. Nobody that praises nazis on this website would find power in the true organization.
>>681463634The soviets building numerous submarines and attack vehicles isnt a myth. The german offensive caught them off guard which is why it became a cluster fuck. Im not sure when they would have attacked but the germans attacking as soon as possible was the right call with everything they and we know now.
>>681463729Nah I'd win
>>681461162this, People see the cool German vehicles, but get confused at the images of horses and then have to be told that Germany had to start it's war with Russia on a major goal of "Get their fucking oil fields to fuel our shit or else we can't fight".BUT GOLLY GEE ARE PANZERS COOL TO MASTURBATE TO!
>>681462821>Nobody with a brain thought he was being honest. This. It's like Putler saying he won't go after the rest of the eastern european states. You'd have to be a total idiot to believe it.
>>681463634>Soviets planning to GermanySoviets planning to attack Germany in 1941 July, fuck.
>>681463715>still would only have gotten a negotiated peace to avoid spending a decade staring angrily across the sea at each other.Imagine how kino a british vs german cold war would have been
>>681463825Exactly its like these chuds dont even watch CNN
>>681463729in all likelihood I’d be more German than I already am and I’d be better off for it. I’d be taller, smarter, more efficient. Yeah.
>>681463809>Germany had to start it's war with Russia on a major goal of "Get their fucking oil fields to fuel our shit or else we can't fight"did they try asking nicely though?why not say "if you give us oil and help us defeat Britain then we'll help you defeat America afterwards"
>>681463790the soviets idea was to conquer europe that's why communism was so ingrained everywhere
Germany had enough fuel into the romanians betrayed them
>>681461202It's hard to say WHAT the Nazis and Empire of Japan would do if they won in any capacity. Nations rise and fall, and what's going to keep these winning nations up in a time of peace when their ideologies at the time dictate aggression and war? Does it last? Does it transform out of it's ideology over time? Or mutate into something alienly different than Japanese Militarism or National Socialism? I'll say this, Nazis winning means plenty of time to cover up the holocaust.
>>681463636I'm not gonna argue with you but I want you to know it's because you're retarded and not because you're correct.
>>681463910Subvert and then have your military back up the revolutionaries. That was the plan and then when you had enough canon fodder zerg rush the rest.
>>681463928until*pardon my bottle
>>681461202no, the germans literally just wanted to get rid of jews (who are cartoonishly evil and actually do want to take over the world) and not live in poverty.
>>681463884they diduntil hitler said slavs were fucking animals because they don't use proper toilets
>>681462959If they'd truly have just gone after German territory and no other crazy shit do you think it'd still be all united today?
>>681463998This
>>681462526I think people are ashamed to just blunty admit "Nazis look pretty cool" since it's easy to slip from that into werhaboo territory and beyond. But yes, Nazi shit looks cool, even if they're terrible terrible people.
>>681462423You are on drugs
>>681464031No since the allies still would attack them and the soviets remained a big problem. The truth is Hitler gave europe a chance by fighting otherwise today would be even worse and gayer.
>>681464031Of course not, as soon they made their own bank they were done
>>681463943germany's aggressive ideology was, at its core, stemming from the resentment of how WW1 ended and the massive burden/reparations that was demanded of Germany. if it looked like Germany was going to win the European conflict, the popular sentiment would probably be to flip the tables on their enemies for those 'injustices'. probably would have devolved into other european nations paying 'protection' to germany, buying into an alliance (and thus guaranteeing they wouldn't be invaded) thats just my headcannon though
>>681463363I mean they were already in a Civil war and armed and shit, the Japanese coming unified 'em because they knew the land better, and well, they heard about Nanjing. Also having US trainers, supplies and a US donated airforce (Flying Tigers) helped as well, at least until the Communists won after the Japs fucked off. But that's how the sands of time spill and all that.
>>681463825Putin is in his 70s. Even if he took the rest of Europe (which would mostly be the baltic states and Belarus), he'd die soon and Russia would fall back into the same state it was in the early 90s.>>681464031Germany was cracked apart after WW2 because literally everyone hated them, if I recall right there was even a plan to keep it as small states or cut it up between neighbouring countries completely. However due to the strong soviet presence, they needed to restore and remilitarize them fast, so the soviets won't just decide to eat up the rest of Europe.
>>681463943>Nazis winning means plenty of time to cover up the holocaustI guess Alex jones is right and the nazis secretly won since theres no evidence of it.
>>681464194
>>681464325That plan was before the war and it involved castrated all german men. It was published in a book won many awards and was used by the germans as evidence of what the allies wanted to do to them. Shouldnt have to tell you this but it was written by a jew and was added to the long list of reasons to hate them.
Napoleon was right about Germany
>>681464480he was wrong about the J's.
>>681464447What's the name of this so famous book?
>>681463884Stalin was never into the idea of expanding Communism outwards like his future replacements did. He was more adamant to keeping Russia safe with a few satellite states and call it there.Stalin x Hitler would NEVER last in any sensible world. They're two completely different ideologies despite being the same Dictator. Stalin himself said a war between him and Hitler was inevitable; he just didn't think it happen THAT soon in our time.
>>681458660Learn what an expeditionary force is.
>>681464325making that plan doesn't make a lot of sense since stalin couldn't be trusted. Then again an anon in this thread was talking about economy so
>>681464559Germany must perishmy bad i thought it was 1930s but it was 1941. However it was a result of the extreme anti-german sentiment in the jewish community going back centuries.
>His burgeoning desire to help overturn what he saw as the capitalist exploitation of Latin America by the United States prompted his involvement in Guatemala's social reforms under President Jacobo Árbenz, whose eventual CIA-assisted overthrow at the behest of the United Fruit Company
>>681464447There were many plans for how to completely destroy Germany forever, they even started moving Jews back in the occupied territories. Patton was one of the commanders who spoke out against this and urged the allied military to stop this insanity (the repopulated jews did create any military value to say the least, some couldn't even use a bathroom and just pissed in the corner) and focus on rebuilding Germany so they can help against the soviet threat.Needless to say, Patton was removed quick.>>681464605>making that plan doesn't make a lot of sense since stalin couldn't be trusted.That's why they didn't bother to completely destroy Germany and instead reinforced western europe as soon as possible with the Marshall plan and formed NATO (and before that the Treaty of Dunkirk which was between Britain and France on the event that Russia attacked them or Germany).
Reminder that hitler didn't kill himself and went to Argentina to fuck latinas
>>681464553desu, Ive no idea what he thought of them
>>681464801That sounds interesting but occam's razor makes me feel like the jews didn't like germany for another reason.>reads wikipedialol the guy who wrote it is a complete nut. Germany using it as "evidence" after they had already been fucking over jews is stupid propaganda for obvious reasons, though.
>>681458660I want an Axis victory AU where Italy actually gets something
>>681465119egypt is rightful italian sand
My Reich Game Idea:>Choose background. Either Heer, SS, or Fallschirmjäger. Different units based on army obviously>Either 4x or Men of War sort of game. Maybe combination of the two.>Start as a Platoon commander. Promotions as game progresses assuming you don't suck.>Campaign difficulty and available missions change depending on level of success or failure during missions.>Options to be noble and honorable or as evil as the sterotype is with how you wage war and treat the enemy.>SS army can get occult units.>Given perfect performance victory is possible. Total defeat also possible.>Pacific War Expansion
>>681464553>r. Wikipedoin non-knower
>>681461968fun fact, the canadian pm at the time admired hitler quite a bit according to his diary he was just more loyal to the crown is allhe also was somewhat of a schizo in private and paid mediums so he could speak with his dead mother
>>681465362make it a rpg and have the promotions work like seed levels in final fantasy
>>681459708U boot sneak attacks is a world apart from a full scale land invasion and forced surrender.
>>681465572Mackenzie was a traitor to his name, the Mackenzies were the first anglo canadians to rebel against the british, a year after the french
>>681460925Sunlight causes cancer, hope you don't go outside... You probably don't
>>681465362I was thinking of something more along the lines of picrel
>>681458760There was no fighting in these scenerios. They willingly joined. Better to speak german than niggerese, get fucked cunt.
>>681460214America joined the war on the side of the British. It's not their fault that Hitler stabbed Stalin in the back with Barbarossa six months before the Japs attacked Pearl Harbour
>>681465112Jews were the aggressors against the germans in every interaction.>wikipedia damage controlA complete nut that won multiple awards and resonated with the political classes of the time and compiled numerous other sentiments that were present in the jewish community.
>>681459708my stupid nigger they couldn't even invade britain let alone the us.
>>681460693Other anon's info is 50 years out of date. Sunbelt has massively increased its industrial output in the 21st century, meanwhile the Midwest has stagnated economically.
>>681465607I wanted some RPG elements too forgot to put that. Kind of a mix of genres. But like actual role playing not stat bullshit.
>>681465783Hitler didnt stab stalin in the back they were never allies and neither side thought they were.
>>681465890would be nice to see the balkanization then
>>681465782Potential fictional where America joined central powers in 1917 seem lot interested.
>>681465912stalin gave oil and more to hitler
>>681465912my nigger there were talks of letting the USSR join the Axis. What a kino timeline we could have had of the US facing an opponent its own side for one without nuke for once.
>>681466058and? Putin gave europe oil until america blew up the pipeline.
>>681465839The wikipedia didn't do any damage control. I know you conspiracy types hate wikipedia but I just took a quick glance to check the contents of the book and him being a nut is 100% my own conclusion based on that.>Jews were the aggressors against the germans in every interaction.See now you're just painting the jews as comically evil. I don't know how you can call Anne Frank an aggressor (maybe she made for a poor upstairs neighbour?)
Americans were never going to join the Germans, language triumphs over genes
>>681462086>people there speak our language so they and their land belong to us, not youBy that logic the US rightfully belongs to the United Kingdom.
>Work day started in israelwell it was a fun thread guys
>>681466203america was never going to join germany because their government and media had already been infiltrated by communists fdg was in a wheelchair so he wouldn't have to be on his knees to suck stalin's dick
>>681465758it would have to be more like roller coaster tycoon
>>681463282*gets absolutely obliterated and loses everything*
>>681466243well yes it does but that logic is indeed stupid
>>681466203The Americans (White Anglo Saxon Protestant ) elite sided with Britain in WW1 & WW2.
>>681463193You still have to try and find some way to justify it logically, otherwise it completely breaks suspension of disbelief. Might as well turn Hitler into a magical girl cyborg at that point
>man in the high castle had to go completely insane in season 3 because they realized that without question the most righteous and self-sacrificing characters they made were the Nazi SS officer and the Japanese Imperial Intelligence officer.
>>681466449germany lost less than any of the other allies not named USA lmao
>>681458660Too much autism involved, not worth it I agree that much of ww2 is overplayed in vidya though. Different theaters would be a breath of fresh air but honestly I think it should be another 20 years before we make more WW2 games
>>681466190>wikipedia a credible source when even middle schoolers get in trouble for using it>weimar germany didnt exist>judea declares war on germany didnt happen>anti german sentiment and propoganda didnt exist>the jewish exploitation of europeans never happened>muh anne frank holocaust gaschamber Oy veywhatever kikeJews are comically evil. One let the mask slip which the other jews rewarded him only for the smarter jews reigning to reign them in and recton. See the entire israeli media calling for and justifying their genocide much to the dismay of the rapidly dwindling intelligent ones.
Honestly, make it a game that goes full autism and adds hyperborea and occultism into the mix.make it a strategic game with RP elements like for example having your own character with certain types of background
>>681460873>>681461687still so crazy that that was proposed consdieirng Mexico was falling apart in a civil war
>>681466681it really is a cycle>they gain power>they grow complacent and less intelligent>the less intelligent go too far and get overthrown>flee and repeat
>>681465912Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. They jointly invaded Poland together, which is why Poland fell so quicklyCommunists in the US were so mindbroken by the news that Nazis and the Soviets allied that many of them defected from the Communist Party and ratted out the Soviet influence on the American labour movement and media, which is what kickstarted the McCarthyist era a few years later as the gravity of the situation filtered up to congress.
>>681459912AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>681466716if the game can go full autism the best thing to be done is to kill hitler and have someone better take the position like rommel
>>681466970why do that when you can go full true autism and have your own character become the fuhrer without killing hittler.
>>681466498Molon labe, redcoat>>681466570Germany lost its entire overseas empire and 50% of its domestic territory for decades. Modern Germany is smaller than any previous state to bear the name barring West/East Germany.
What if France won the 7 years war?
>>681466880It was a PACT not an alliance. Neither side ever thought it would lead to any kind of peace. the soviets were planning on invading the rest of europe and thought hitler would let his guard down hitler simply struck first.
>>681466681You're not discussing in good faith anymore so I'm going to stop interacting with you
>>681467028The uk lost all of its colonies outside of a few shitty islands, the french lost all of its colonies outside of a few pieces of landkeep on pretending that germany was off worse when the "winning" side lost more shit
>>681458660VGH WHAT COULD'VE BEEN
>>681467021that's the end of the game. Hitler was sick or dead or whatever the fuck. Rommel is appointed reich and turns to you to lead whatever. Your results are so good that Rommel asks you to lead in his steadi was thinking that it was easier to kill hitler before his descent into battle royale territory
>>681467068burgerstan should have been controlled by england or france, anything with an older history and culturethe us is the teen of the world, with too much money and no idea on how to use it properly
>>681466681>Weimar GermanyOverblown, modern day is worse>Judea declares war on GermanyAfter Hitler declared war on Jews. 'Judea' was being used poetically to refer to the Jewish race in that news article, and if you actually read it it was saying wealthy Jews were refusing to do business with or in Germany as a form of protest>anti-german sentiment and propaganda didn't existShould I post the things Germany said about the British and the Americans in their propaganda? "Mutt" originates as a Nazi slur against Americans. >Jewish exploitationCitation needed>Anne FrankUOOH CHILD BELLY AND CHEST
>>681467089You never started in good faith when you started calling him a nut despite obviously being taken seriously at the time. Meanwhile i gave you multiple examples of jews being the aggressor and examples of their cartoonish evil. maybe you can find an article about how netanyahu is a nut who was never taken seriously as he and his country launch cluster bombs into a gazan hospital.
>>681467231lets pretend that the civil war during ww 1 didn't happen and wasn't led by jews and then yes, you would have a point.but no, the jews were the ones that caused germany to lose ww1
>>681467079>Russians were planning on invadingFactually incorrect, the Soviets had been utterly humiliated in their attempt to invade Poland in the 1920s and caused them to abandon internationalist communism and instead focus inward. Stalin was a hardline nationalist, postwar Soviet expansionism was mostly taking advantage of the circumstances having left the door wide open for them.
>>681467247Dude you're nuts
>>681465070Unironically true
>>681467096Britain and France didn't lose any domestic territory, Germany did. British and French empires lasted into the 1970s, German empire died in 1945. Cope>>681467210>openly admitting he is just jealous of American prosperityLel, have you ever stopped and considered why America is so strong is because it isn't a slave to "old history and culture"?
The only reason Hitler invaded Russia was because Finland humiliated them
>>681467068>america having a salt tax until late 1900s>cheese country neighboring bean country>muh napoleonsacre bleu what an improvement
>>681467528Britain lost Irelandand now who is the economic power house of Europe?oh right Germanykeep on coping faggot
>>681467316Germany lost WW1 because she declared war on the entire world and did everything in her power to antagonise the US into joining on the side of France. >stab in the back mythLol they had been on the back foot since 1916.
>>681467398>caused them to abandon internationalist communismyou've mentioned it twice but who was financing the communists with weapons if the international communism was abandoned? You know guns don't grow on trees
>>681458660>>681458760It's a stupid scenarioIf Germany won the U.S. would probably stay independent and just become fascist. Probably not even through a coup or revolution, just an election.
>>681467565Nous aimons le fromage
>>681467614In 1922. Not even related to WW2. And Ireland is technically overseas. Germany lost Prussia, which is literally next door>economic powerhouse of Europe is GermanyBecause the EU was created by Germany to funnel all industry and wealth into Germany at the expense of the other member states.
>>681467628incorrect, austria declared war on serbia after a serbian terrorist killed the heir of the Austria Hungary empire.and no, they were winning constantly even after the Americans joined they were still winning in Europe.
>>681467658They were building them internally, you're just scattershooting accusations at this point. Unless you have evidence Mosins and T34s were somehow designed outside of Russia.
>>681467743and it doesnt matter, the so called winners ended up worse than Germanyyou are just coping trying to pretend that somehow any of the retarded allies benefited from it when the only country that benefited was the USA
>>681467231Yes modern day is worse because its completly run by kikes the problems we face today started back then.>After Hitler declared war on JewsHitler said germany would no longer be abused by jews and the jews demand they have a right to exploit everyone else as part of their culture. Jews were not mistreated until they and their people abroad started causing problems. they started a global boycott against germany which germany responded with a boycott of jewish businesses within germany not the other way around.>Germany said about the British and the Americans in their propagandaGerman propoganda is well noted as being primarily internal when it did when it did face outwards it rarely dehumanized the race they fought against but rather they were being controlled by jews and there was always an intellectual critique to back it up. Compare it to the allied jewish propoganda the germans are subhuman huns that eat babies stick them in gas chambers and ovens. Complete nonsense we see repeated in palestine today. Never did germany want to destroy britain or america, sterilize its people, or mass poison its livestock. Even their propoganda against the slavs was no where near as bad.>Citation neededyou're an idiot>UOOH CHILD BELLY AND CHESTTTT000TTTT
>>681459864"how to suck dick for 8 year olds" the progressive new best seller
>>681467614>most of the war debt pardoned by the allies>intense investment in germany to thwart the ussr>still rich in mineralsgermany is mostly doing well because of certain aligned ideals with central banking in conjunction with deterrence
>>681467614Modern Germany is disgusting, they are literally destroying farm lands to find fucking coalFrance is unironically the most intelligent European country
>>681467415>y y your just crazy manlmao
>>681467956 france is a shithole>>681467949and in exchange what did they have to give? ah yes all of their colonial empiresthe Allies sure ended up in a winning position.you are just a pathetic retard pretending that somehow anyone but the Jewish states of America won anything from it
>>681467818i'm asking because i don't know but i don't believe you're rightcommunist fronts in europe and south america were properly and well armed, from what i know, that's why spain had so much trouble beating them into a pulp. It's hard to finance a constant losing streak you know?
>>681468070Dont forget>promise polish sovereignty >start war over it>just kidding you're a soviet state now
>>681467761And the war would've stayed in Serbia if Germany didn't declare war on France and then invade Belgium for no reason (dragging Britain into the war), and then try to bribe Mexico into attacking the US, dragging the Americans in>they were totally winningThey had been fighting defensively and consistently retreating since autumn 1916. By the time the US joined the western front was in Belgium.
>>681458660VGH
That's a great idea
>>681468070the allies, america, ended up in a great positionas for germany and its colonies i'm sure you know how late to colonize germany was>you are just a pathetic retard pretending that somehow anyone but the Jewish states of America won anything from ityou need to take your meds before the shadow boxingand france was indeed the smartest european country. Good on de gaulle for getting nukes and tell americans to fuck off
>>681464273It's actually because Chiang was being schizo and has to be kidnapped to unite the warlords, while the Japanese are pushing the plain.And Chiang ended up using most of his troops in Shanghai/Nanjing, to ensure loyalty and stop being a schizo, with German trained troop and equipment.It's true that US end the war and saved China, but IJA already over extended and unable to push deeper into Chinese territories
>>681468070>france is a shitholeAnd Germany isn't? At least France is still green
>>681467904Hitler was elected on the promise of hunting down and eliminating Jews. If the roles were reversed you would be saying the Germans would have every right to defend themselves from such blatant aggression. >it's well noted for being internal and not attacking allieshttps://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/reich2.htm>ad homConcession accepted
>All of established history is wrong>How do I know this? I stopped taking my medication>Yes they covered it up because they've always been in controlI'm talking about flat earth
>>681468238>ignores russiapointless post>>681468478germany is in a better position, had less colonies in the first place than the french and British, but hey lets keep on pretending that they were equal in size shall we?
>>681468186After the war, yes. That was the result of the cold war and changing priorities and changing foreign policy. Remember, Stalin died in 1953. What the Soviets did in Cuba and Afghanistan and Rhodesia were far removed from what Stalin before and during the war. No different than the changing politics of the US in say 1934 vs 1984.
>>681468663Russia capitulated because of the Bolshevik revolution (which Germany funded, BTW), which should've helped the Germans because they didn't have two fronts to fight anymore. It didn't help. >>681468478>Americans sacrifice millions of young men to rescue France from their hubris, thrice>France thanks us by spitting in our faces for the next 75 yearsWhy are we allied with those surrendermonkeys, again? Worthless degenerate culture, worthless degenerate nation.
>>681468553No he wasn't. Germans didnt start systematically persecuting jews until the war broke out unless you consider having your power limited in a country you dont belong in as oppression.
>>681468705i get what you mean but the spanish civil war was in 1936so you're saying there was a drought period but it didn't seem that dry
>>681468553>https://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/reich2.htmlmao thats it? them saying how their enemies regime is corrupt and doesnt care about its people.
>>681468905Oh fuck off, France loved americans until De Gaulle found you with your hand in the cookie jar, literally stealing European gold, americans LYING and refusing to share nuclear researchs only made everything worse
>>681459912Nah it's super easy. Just nuke everything first. Once literally everyone in US is dead it'll be trivial to take over.
these threads are why i browse v
>>681469140don't forget about the mass rapes the americans were performing on the french as a reward for 'liberating' (occupying) them
>>681469140https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf4rjTEGo0wAmericans hate the French because of this btwThey brainwash them
>>681468937Jews were outlawed from holding political office and were required to paint big 'Jew owned business' signs on their businesses within months of the Nazis taking power, and it only got more explicit from there. They weren't allowed to own businesses for very long. In 1935 they were declared not legal citizens and basically given the ultimadum of "leave or else".>>681469140Nigger we fucking died to save you from being slaves of Germany, we have the right to take whatever the fuck you want and you should be grateful we didn't slide into the Nazi's power vacuum. >gibsmedat fo freeI will lynch you, you filthy ape
>>681458760would be better
>>681459161nazis sent men to the moon
>>681469371>slaves of GermanyFrance had significantly better living conditions under the Germans than they have under the American-Israeli alliance today.
>>681469371americans fought the reserves who were unfit to fight the real war on the eastern front and still cope to this day how bad they got whipped by a retreating army
>>681469371You only saved your own interestsYou only hate France because unlike the UK they refused to become your puppet
>>681458660>>681458760A plausible Axis victory would look more like an early EU (probably extending up to the borders of modern Russia but not much further) but without the migrant shit and more centralized; Japan acquiring a bunch of land in China, failing to hold it, and eventually falling back to just having Korea, Takasago, and Manchukuo in their empire; and America doing Cold War shit but against fascists rather than communists. Rather than NATO you might have some kind of Pan-Arctic Treaty Organization of the US, Canada, Britain, and remaining USSR.
>>681469580Modern France is the result of French policies. We spent the entirety of the cold war warning to to not elect leftism, you called us fascist imperialist pigs and then elected communist pedophiles for decades. Go look up the French response to the Vietnam War, a war we got involved with literally to clean up a mess that FRANCE MADE. Backstabbing subhuman mongrels, always have been. Epicenter of everything wrong with society, cultivators of all degenerate filth. >>681469610End result of being under Fr*nch command>>681469613What interests did we have in Europe? Retard. We didn't even get involved until Hitler declared war on us to stand in solidarity with Japan. Watch your tone when you speak to your superiors, you squalid frog-chimp homunculus
>>681469985You seem to have a very personal interest in deflecting jewish blame onto french people
>>681469371>Jews were outlawed from holding political office and were required to paint big 'Jew owned business' signs on their businesses So? they dont belong there its not their country and whenever they have power they make things worse for everyone like today. People have a right to know where their money goes, funny the english did that with german businesses too but unlike jews it actually increased german profits. >They weren't allowed to own businesses for very long. In 1935 they were declared not legal citizens and basically given the ultimadum of "leave or else".This was because of constant subversion and political terrorism the jews were doing domestically and abroad they were told to leave and this was facilitated by the state.They were not oppressed they just couldnt handle not being in control so they were acting like niggers and told to leave.
>>681469985France gave up on Vietnam because they realized it was pointless with Vietnam bordering ChinaYou were the one who obsessed over it because muh gommunism>what interestYou trading american dollars FOR FUCKING EUROPEAN GOLD
>>681469985France is controlled by jews those leftists are jews the right are jews it doesnt matter who you vote for when ever politician is a jew or a puppet of one.
>>681467528>my empire lasted 425 years instead of 400 so suck it!Europe is dead
>>681469985>what interests did we have in europe?spreading communism and americanismyou do realize that the american government was infiltrated by comminists in the 1920's, right?you don't honestly believe the cold war was anything more than than a dick measuring contest to see which flag gets to spread their brand of marxism, right?
>>681470071Should be like looking into a mirror for you
>>681470352What an insane kike projection. Kys
>>681470101>they didn't belong thereOkay, but that wasn't your argument. Your argument was that the oppression didn't begin until after the war started. The war started in 1939, several years after 1935.>having your citizenship status revoked and being forbidden from owning property or being employed in all but the most menial of hard labour isn't oppression, all the while surrounded with propaganda that declares you subhumanWhat, praytell, IS oppression to you if not that? >>681470124France gave up on Vietnam because a literal communist revolutionary group tried to overthrow the French government "in solidarity with their Vietnamese comrades". It scared French politicians so bad that they immediately capitulated and asked the US to move in and 'contain' the issue instead. So they did, after having spent time studying the tactics the British used in the Malayan Emergency. Funny how the bongs never got shit on for dumping agent orange all over Malaysia but the US is considered Giga Hitler for doing it in Vietnam.
>>681470309>euros now seriously trying to argue that America were the true communists during the cold warMore things change, more things stay the same. Always comes back to defending the cold war Soviets with you lot. Really aught to have left them to it, complete waste of time protecting eurofags from Bolshevism. Protip: why don't you look up where the majority of communists lived in the 20th century. I'll give you a big ol hint, it was the countries with open communist parties holding significant power in their parliaments; countries like France and Britain and Sweden and Germany and Italy and Spain.
>>681459521It just seems really unlikely for Germany and Japan to not only be able to conquer and defeat their allies in their own theaters prior to US involvement and then defeat the United States and occupy it.This still holds true even if:1. You have both Germany and Japan develop nuclear bombs at around the same time the United States does.2. You give Germany a technological edge of about 1-2 years ahead of what they had IOT.3. The Soviet Union never industrialized to the same degree and the great purge left their high command far weaker.4. Let Hitler not be as paranoid and allow his commanders and advisors to make sensible decisions that got overruled IOT.5. Somehow fix the horrific issues with the logistics created by Germany's Nationalist Socialist's Autarky state.6. Had the KMT and CCP fight each other more than they fought the Japanese.7. Italy completely conquers the Royal Navy in the Mediterranean, take the Suez Canal and stop landings in Southern Italy and Sicily.8. Have the RAF somehow less competent at defending London from German bombing and fail to bomb German infrastructure. 9. D Day never happens.10. America never joins the war.11. America has a civil war during the 1930s or 40sBecause, even with all of that. The sheer fact of the US's geography, robust industry, large and well armed population, and formidable terrain makes waging a war from Japan and Germany onto the United States and winning, nearly impossible. I will give TNO shit for many many reasons, but regarding the United States's position in a timeline where nearly everything I said happens to allow for an Axis victory, is rather realistic and not pulling bullshit out of the asshole like Man in the High Castle or Wolfenstein.
Hitler was right, and the bad guys won ww2.
>>681470486No it was that they werent oppressed until the war started unless you considered them not being allowed to run things oppression. You obviously do think jews have a right to run society which we fundamentally disagree on.
>>681470486>having your citizenship status revoked and being forbidden from owning property or being employed in all but the most menial of hard labour isn't oppression, all the while surrounded with propaganda that declares you subhumanLol jews literally do that today in other peoples countries but the second someone does it to them in a country they dont belong in then its bad.
>>681467316I thought they primarily caused their premature surrender right before they could invade Paris.I mean eventually they would have lot no matter what since America was now against them, but the whole "we lost WW1 because we were betrayed by jews" thing was rooted in the fact that they had a fresh army about to beat the French and then they just... surrendered without a fight.
>>681470978>Being openly and explicitly treated as second class citizens and then subhumans isn't oppression because "they deserved it"Setting aside whether they did or did not deserve it, your argument ultimately boils down to "my side always right, therefore always justified in anything they do no exceptions; other side always wrong, they are never justified in doing anything no exceptions". You're pulling the exact same 'rules for thee' power play that you criticise Jews for doing. >>681470812The only possible way the Axis wins is Germany asspulls nukes before the US does. In which case, they nuke Russia out of the war and then use the threat of nuking London/Paris to force the British and Americans into a stalemate ceasefire.
>>681471123he just pointed out your moving the goal posts and your response is to immediately do it again. The jews accidentally took your brain in lieu of your foreskin
>>681471275They surrendered because the 100 Days Offensive so thoroughly routed the German army that demoralised German troops were surrendering in droves, and any that stood and fought were basically running around without orders. Germany made the tactical choice to surrender then and there so that the allies wouldn't push the war eastward into German territory which was a very real possibility. Hitler "learned from this mistake" and it resulted in the Soviets and the western Allies pushing all the way to Berlin and splitting the country in half for 45 years.
>>681461104>>681470958The fucking globalists have an ideology that basically is if you made national socalism even gayer and egalitarian.I don't understand why so many morons think that the Nazis where like some conservative Christian nationalists and not the gnostic control freaks that wanted to control every aspect of your life because of your race. Seriously if you remove all of the anti-semtic elements of National Socialism and look at what it is, it is just a cult focused around a race based cast system that wants each member enslaved by the government to fit their leader's view as to what each of them should be. It is honestly hard to actually have National Socalists talk about their actual beliefs beyond antisemitism. They just want to talk about the Jews. I don't like Judaism either. But usually if they do they will just try to say they want whatever policies the NSDAP implemented because of a half truth they where told and don't actually fully understand the context of the economy Germany had in 1933-1939 nor the actual impact of those policies. >>681470486The Malaysian Emergency is not remembered by normies.>>681471275The Jews (Bolsheviks) literally signed a peace treaty with Germany ending conflict in Imperial Russia. They literally took out of one of the largest threats they had and almost completely ended the war being two fronts. The Jews unironically helped Germany out more than perhaps any other demographic.Also Fritz Haber, a Jew literally invented the Haber process, allowing Germany to have the fertilizer, bombs, and chemical weapons it needed to sustain their war effort in WW1.
Why does every alternate history shit boil down to >what if Rome never collapsedor>what if Germany won WW2
>>681471571>nobody remembers MalayaThat's my point. Because America was the main stalwart against the Soviets, America was the one constantly under the microscope for anything that could be considered a transgression of "proper order". Much like what the British had to put up with during Pax Britannica. Except in this case, the people combing through America's trash were all radical leftist agitators who had no problem blatantly lying to get their way. Practically every modern social problem comes from European socialists critiquing American foreign policy so much that anything even remotely resembling anticommunist attitudes is decried as fascist and rapidly snuffed out. Just look at how people squirm if you reference McCarthyism or the Vietnam War or Ronald Reagan, even people who otherwise would consider themselves 'based and redpilled'.
>>681471327The problem with nuclear weapons in WW2, is that there would have to be both the ability to not just have the bomb, but also to deliver it, and ensure that more will be on their way.By the time the island hopping campaign of the pacific reached Japan, their air defenses where basically destroyed. Fire bombing actually did more damage to Japanese cities than both nukes did. All they did was promise that America was more than capable of wiping out Japan without the need of a invasion force into the Japanese Home Islands. And even after that it took Hirohito stepping up to announce a surrender, because even after losing the entire empire, countless fire bombs, two nukes, millions dead, the children being given weapons, and everyone left is injured or starving, the Japanese high command still wanted to fight.
>>681471816Because only history autismals would care about an alternate history where the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth never dissolved.
>>681471327My position is pretty perfectly consistent but you've yet to explain how jews not being allowed to ruin a country that isnt theres is some how oppression.
>>681471335Goal post never moved try again jews werent oppressed just as a shitty guest isnt oppressed when the owner of a home kicks them out.
>>681471930Can you explain how Nazism is good without Jews?Or rather this, suppose you where given total control on how to run a country and every Jew alive today magically disappeared, what policies would you want to see?
>>681471895That's why I said they would've nuked the Russians, because they could feasibly have used a long-distance bomber to hit Moscow because the Soviets didn't have high-altitude aircraft. And why it would've led to a stalemate rather than forced surrender against the western allies, because even though the Germans realistically couldn't get through Anglo-American air superiority the mere threat that just a single bomber sneaking through and wiping an entire city off the map would mean they'd effectively have no choice.
>>681471930That assumes they were destroying the country, you keep stating that as if it's accepted historical fact. Your position is consistently "Jews bad, anything done to them is justified, therefore they cannot be oppressed"
>>681458760If the Axis powers won, the way that Europe would probably shake out is something like Germany at the peak of the war, so modern-day Czech Republic, Austria, and Poland get permanently absorbed into Germany, the other European countries remain independent but either are Nazi vassal states or get fucked with reparations. United States would stay the same way, though Hawaii would be lost to Japan.
>>681472191They were destroying germany economically morally racially just as they are doing today in europe. But again your missing the argument jews were a tiny transient population and were free to leave at anytime the germans kicking them out or preventing their populace from being influenced by them isnt oppression.
>>681472105> the mere threat that just a single bomber sneaking through and wiping an entire city off the map would mean they'd effectively have no choice.Not really. Considering Britain had some of the best radar detection at the time, anti-air defenses, and plenty of their aircraft where capable of operating at altitudes that would be expected of strategic bombers.It would absolutely terrify the British, but I don't think it could force a surrender unless one managed to get through London in spite of every single defense they had.
What would Korea look like at this point? Over 100 years of Imperial rule, culture erasure, mandatory Japanese and Japanese names, etc. would surely take a toll. Would they be considered normal Japanese, or would they still be considered second class citizens? Would it be like Sicily is to Italy? Or something else?Alt history often focuses on big strokes, but I think it’s more fun to focus on the details.
>>681472105Global finance would happily allow london to get nuked if it meant destroying germany or ending more european lives. Maybe the people would finally rebel with how much they hated their government and the threat of annihilation if said government didnt stop.
>>681471816Don't forget>what if the South won the Civil WarThere's probably a reason why one question isn't asked more often:>what if Israel was never founded
>>681472408You're deliberately deflecting from the fact that you refuse to define 'oppression' because you want to justify anything the Nazis did or feasibly could have done to the Jews as having been morally righteous. Again, setting aside whether Jews did or did not corrupt Germany, that has no bearing to the average Jew on the street. The majority of whom in 1930s Germany would been regular middle class small business owners and working class industrial employees same as ethnic Germans. They would not have been "in on it", so to speak. By any sane definition of the word oppression, it was absolutely so to strip them of the citizenship they had been born with as had their ancestors stretching back centuries (remember, they weren't like modern migrants. European Jews were born and bred in Europe a thousand years and therefore could've been considered just as much a European race as any other). Arbitrarily deciding they are no longer German and then telling them to abandon their homeland is oppression, no matter how you want to cut it. I can guarantee that in the same breath, you believe what blacks do to whites in post-apartheid South Africa and Zimbabwe is abhorrent and inhumane. Am I right?
>>681472823Which is why I said stalemate ceasefire. Like Korea. >>681472929Idiot. If that were the case, France Belgium Holland Poland and so on would've all fought to the death but they didn't. France is meme'd on to this day for how quickly they surrendered.
>>681458760Autism
>>681473012/pol/cels are mentally ill who worship a schizo low IQ pagan heretic.
>>681471895Hydrogen bombs and ICBM’s are not that far down the tech tree from WW2 level stuff, so to speak. You essentially just need a bigger V-2. Delay ww2 by 10 or 15 years and maybe it’d happen.Anyways, nukes are a strategic weapon not a tactical weapon, and Nazi Germany was fucking retarded in terms of strategy.
>main villain goes full retard halfway through the storyThis old trope....
>>681458660tno if you can stand the autism
>>681458660When will people learn Japan has never changed its flag?
>>681473513that's ridiculous anon, next you'll tell me austria-hungary didn't have a national flag!
>>681473012>refuse to define 'oppression'Oppression is malicious or unjust treatment of, or exercise of power over, a group of individualsthe actions they took against the jews were not malicious or unjust.>that has no bearing to the average Jew on the streetyes it does to an even greater degree than the average german due to how the jewish community works. The jews themselves didnt see themselves as german or of germany there is no average jewish man on the street who did not benefit from the privileges and nepotism his racial collective provided. This was racial struggle for power and your only argument is that jews have the right to germany more so than the actual germans because an imaginary jew had an ancestor born in a getto somewhere in prussia a century prior, despite them never considering themselves german and hating the germans.>blacks do to whites in post-apartheid South Africa and Zimbabwe is abhorrent and inhumane. Am I right?yes because its malicious and unjust. the blacks did not establish those territories or lands they were invaders that came during the bantu migrations then stuck around. South africa and rhodesia were white countries with a minority of tribal nomads unrelated to the current majority of bantu. Those nomads were given autonomous territories in order to save protect them from the other blacks btw.But frankly Yes if we look at reality and not this gay theory shit you're trying to pull. Jews are in the wrong they do not belong anywhere and their ethnic strategy involves oppressing others thus they cannot be oppressed by the people acting against them in the same way your body doesn't oppress a virus by getting rid of it. Maybe if jews founded their own country, rejected their culture of parasitism and stop being such cartoonishly evil sub humans we could all live in peace. But looking at history and current events thats probably not happening anytime soon.
>>681466190>See now you're just painting the jews as comically evil.Because they are. it's funny how you kikes always approach this point by making it taboo to villify your kind, but you never claim it's incorrect or inaccurate to villify you.It's like you claim that no one could ever be comically evil. but at the same time comically evil is exactly how you depict Nazis. and anyone who'd criticise you for your hysterical views toward them would immediately be interpreted a s closeted Nazi. but that never applies when you're doing it, you're always just an average Joe who's standing up for our wholesome greatest ally. never a pilpuling kike yourself.
>>681473738>Maybe if jews founded their own country, rejected their culture of parasitism and stop being such cartoonishly evil sub humans we could all live in peacenot if the muhammadans have anything to say about it
>>681458660If the pacific northwest was a Japanese colony it would be the best place on Earth
>>681473798Founding a welfare queen state off of terrorism and ethnic cleansing doesn't qualify.
>>681467089Yeah that's right, walk away tail tuck up between your legs faggot.
>>681473649I think you failed to make fun of me
>>681473774>>681473738Shitskin /pol/cel hours
>>681473774Anybody who speaks against jews is a nazi, and anyone who speaks against nazis is a jew. What a world.
>>681470486>Funny how the bongs never got shit on for dumping agent orange all over MalaysiaBecause the number of people affected was much lower and unlike in Vietnam the British government understood that spraying health-destroying chemicals everywhere was a bad look so they kept it quiet, unlike in Vietnam where it was used in biblical quantities and everyone and their dog knew about it.
>>681473774Its about 09:30 in israel the work day has started and is well underway.just saying probably not relevant to anything going on in the thread.
>>681473868I wish they'd stick to their containment zone like they apparently want jews to. Fucking hypocrites.
>>681473868>no argument>jew kvetchingeverytimewell its been fun lads time to pick the kids up and get the wife started on dinnerHeil hitler
>>681473272>pagan heretic.
>>681462429>Nazi Germany breaks every single promise and treaty it ever signed>durr why didn't Churchill accept a ceasefire???
>>681474174because he was a puppet of the banks and an alcoholic retard
>>681473272>schizo low IQ pagan heretic.
>Japan or Germany invading the US... Instead of the US joining them v Russia after the Asian and European theatres are secured.American aluminium was in German tanks. All it would have taken was Japan giving up the pacific and saying sorry if anything Australia might have looked like this split between Japan and the US
>>681473272>low IQ
>>681474174armchair war strategists on my basket weaving forum? Can't be.
https://www.youtube.com/@ZoomerHistorian
>>681474323>unrelated chart we're supposed to infer some esoteric argument fromTake the jewish meds
>>681471275Reminder that the man who coined the 'stabbed in the back' tale was one of a group of generals who approached the military government suggesting they start negotiating an end to the war because the military situation was hopeless after the 100 Days Offensive.
>>681473649''swastika = symbol of nazi gernany'' is correct ''rising sun flag = empire of japan'' is basically a post ww2 revistionist bullshit that people were brainwashed to belive Japan has never changed its flags and has always been using both the national flag and the rising sun flag
>>681474305>Japan and US split half of the pacific between Hawaii and Japan, split Australia. Japan ethnically clenses Asia, Germany does it to africa and the Middle East, Japan, Germany and the US split Russia, US continues its imperialism in south America.. Earth reaches an uneasy peace with this triumvirate of super powers - Jewish people are wiped out.
>>681474449HAHAHAHHA
>>681474323>>681474256>>681474115/pol/cel in shambles
>>681474703lots of catholics are coming overyou don't have to worry about polcels
>>681458660Why is it alway alternate WW2? Why is it never “what would have happened if the U.S. joined Germany?” Or “What if Napoleon took Britain?”
>>681474305Roosevelt did everything in his power to join the war against Germany short of actually declaring war (because he needed Congress for that) for a long time before Pearl Harbour, if you think the US was ever likely to side with the Germans I've got a bridge to sell you.
>>681474069I dont think your waifu body pillow is going to make dinner
>>681474305>American aluminium was in German tanks.And? Soviet titanium was in American planes.
>>681474914cant get too based now
>>681472823>Britain had some of the best radar detection at the timeGermany developed stealth fighters by 1945, just didn't manage to build them. Horten 229 I think.of course, it wouldn't be able to carry nukes, it had a payload of less than 1 tons.
the Jarkarta Method explains post WW2 Americathen you'll realize no side matters, only economic interest and gains. that's why America has to prop up the 3rd world and keep everyone in line, and if it loses that.economic stability goes to the shitter
>>681458660Because leftists would go crazy and demand the Nazi supporting game be shut down.Personally I'm tired of shooting Germans and Russians. I'd like to see a game where you play as a German shooting at Brits, French and americans.
>>681463363>was china that strong?They were large. That alone necessitated a huge Japanese presence in China during the war (and to be fair, given the character of the fighting elsewhere it wasn't like those troops would be doing anything else). But Operation Ichi-Go demonstrated that even after years of direct US support and training, China was fucking hopeless and a non-credible ally. The defeat of Japan could never come from China. Despite being the largest theater in terms of manpower, it was a sideshow.
>>681463825There's zero evidence he even wants the rest of Ukraine, he doesn't give a shit about the rest of East Europe. He just doesn't want NATO expanding onto his doorstep, which is pretty fair imo.Let's face it Pugin has been more honest and has done more to try and end this war than anyone in the west. UK, Germany, Poland and the US keep telling Zelensky not to accept any peace deals. Doesnt sound like it's Putin causing the problems to me.
>>681462231>They could've wonStopped reading right there. They were never going to win and there was no way for them to ever win.
>>681475725Anon he started the war. He even got away with his little annexation in 2014 but it wasn't enough.
>>681473276Don't forget that the greatest rocket physicist himself was also working in Germany, Americans extracted him later and made him build the moon rockets.So yeah, delay everything 10-15 years, and nazis would absolutely have developed ballistic intercontinental ballistic missiles.
>>681475725>There's zero evidence he even wants the rest of UkraineIs this the new cope?
>>681475725>He just doesn't want NATO expanding onto his doorstepWhy the fuck do you think invading a country would deter countries from joining the alliance against invading countries? Also, the guy that started the war has been doing the most to end it? Fucking really nigger? How are ziggers this fucking stupid?
>>681463825You'd have to be a total idot to think they believe themselves to be in the capacity to drive further west. Russia is in no place to challenge NATO,even if Putin had interest he'd be smarter than that.
>>681463363epic image
>>681475062Maybe if Huey P Long wasn't assassinated I might have bought that bridge.
>>681475207Soviets flip flopping support isn't a secret. The yanks helping arm the Nazis however, keeps getting memory holed for some reason.
>>681476157Real shame about those buildings they always looked very cool.
>>681465070He is literally alive in Agartha right now
>>681471930uhmmm, it just is, ok chud? g*d's chosen people are the rightful owners of all goyim and their property
>>681458760In the series, the Gers develop nuclear weapons first and nuke Washington or something. The US then surrenders. It's not absurd.
>>681460456The US would invade Mexico, and the entire Axis invasion force would be sunk in transit.
soviet union rule over america would be more interesting aesthetically
>No games where the US and Germany team up post Hitler’s death to crush the SovietsUnfortunate
>>681458660Jews wouldn't fund a AAA one and indie devs wouldn't bother
>>681480058US and West Germany did team up and the Soviet Union fell. Close enough.
>>681460135Sounds like a made up scenario.
Ugh so boring, when is ww3 coming up?
>>681480058Red Alert 1
>>681482458Israel is quite literally trying to provoke it right now to follow their Torah prophecies
>>681484449Really you could even classify WW3 as the neverending global proxy war system that's been ongoing ever since WW2 ended.
>>681485042No you couldn't. At that point, the term "world war" becomes meaningless.
>>681485229>wars happening all over the world>dozens of countries participating in said wars(NATO, UN)>said wars cause the lowest most degenerate period of human history ever>this doesn't count as a world warYou should be a lawyer.
>>681458660Only one dynamic functions as Jewish revenge porn.
>>681485653Look, we can make an argument that the War on Terror or whatever you wanna call it can be seen as another WW, but "the neverending gobal proxy war system [since] WW2 ended" is just too fucking vague and includes too much.
>>681463729Hahahah... you are ABSOLUTELY going to die from getting diversified in the back of the head at 3 AM on a street corner some day.
>>681469617without german scientists to steal tech from america would have been assraped once missiles are developed by the nazis
>>681458660>No crimes>Clean street>Booming economyWhat did bethesda meant by this?
