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My official Wuk Lemat hate thread
>MESA WUK WUK BINKS
>I'M GONNA BE THE NEXT WUKAGE
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>>681464014
Don't diss the tranny or the janny will delete your thread
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Login queues are normal now, no long lines anymore. Dead game.
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>>681464096
i think the heckin' shitposts and weird janitors had more to do with it than the heckin' trannay
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He's gonna hate it lol
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>>681464096
No Anon, and, if the jannitor/mod reads this...
It's not the voice actor, it's the character itself
I hate the character
I do not like the character
The voice doesn't even factor in, I don't even give a fuck
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this feels like one of those audience participation theatres where they try to make the 5 year old audience cheer for the protagonist
except I hate her
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>>681464096
Fuck the troon. I swapped VAs just for that alone. That said, This was a mid expansion. I want to explore the other Shards.
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>>>/lgbt/
>>>/vg/
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>>681464014
>that level 99 dungeon
When was the last time we had an msq dungeon that just fucked you up?
First boss is all one shot mechanics. Ive never had this much fun in a dungeon, too bad it’s in service to this retarded writing.
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>>681464014
Don't mind me. Posting tranny repellent
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Does anyone know what Estinien's gear IDs are? He has an upgraded Trueblood armor that isn't player accessible and I want to wear it.
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>janny nuked the last thread at 400+posts
It keeps happening
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>>681464014
>only had a tiny roll in DT
>her actively dodging the MSQ actually made her the smartest character once again
Please, send everyone home and let us roam the countryside with Estinien and Y'shtola again, by far the best NPC duo we had so far.
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>>681464301
He's having a mega melty
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>>681464014
>Pays a monthly fee to play this cringe slop LMAO
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>Even Alphanaud isn't sure what to do if we're not cheerleading trooncat
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>>681464256
Mt. Gulg still fucks up people to this day with the gigapull
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>>681464014
Moat liek WOKE Lumat amirite fellas?
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Post HD Yugiri and Mikoto
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Can't wait to roleplay as a Solution Nine turbowhore with no standards or morals. I can even do canon snuff now.
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>>681464301
look literally two posts above your own and you'll see the answer
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the story was well written and hiroi knocked it out of the park
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>>681464301
I was waiting for the fellow anon to see my updated Adventurer Plate when he pointed out it wasn't active. :( Guess I'll go to bed.
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https://strawpoll.com/eJnvV7m7Wnv
Vote!!!
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>>681464301
>>681464316
thankfully he will give up with the slightest pushback, as he always does
they just seem to love putting themselves through a personal humiliation ritual over and over again?
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so why does erenville sound like that
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honestly im jealous of the cultists that can just turn their brain off and consoom
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>>681464518
He’s Swedish or Icelandic or something
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>>681464301
VIDEO GAMES?!
ON MY BOARD!?
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>>681464518
they didn't think about it so you shouldn't either
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This is one of the most boring major characters in the entirety of this game. Because at least Nanamo had to deal with Monetarist conflict that mattered at the time, at least Lyse had to acknowledge she grew up sheltered from the Ala Mhigan suffering and didn't understand what she was getting herself into, at least G'raha Tia went through tons of shit and technical heroic suicide to see things through before he became a cockgarbler. Wuk is just flat. They try to give her dimension by acting like she has depths, but the depths are self-resolved with a minor pep talk after hours of seeing her do the same thing over and over.
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I havent seen anybody except the lala pedos like the story yet
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>>681464518
Scandinavian accents for all bnuuys and hrothgar in Shadowborkers but because he slightly rolls his tongue maybe he can pass for a Mexican
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>>681464419
No marketboard and no lvl 1 ERP access. Zone will be dead, doesn't matter how nice it is.
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>>681464563
>>681464606
his mom sounds normal tho

>>681464584
that seems to be a lot of things in this expansion
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>>681464593
From what I've played so far it gets better once you go to texas.
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if you think zoraal ja is a shit antagonist you have no media literacy unironically
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>>681464187
I think if they didnt try to force you to like her so much that she would be better received.
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>>681464518
His actor is Icelandic and he probably wasn't written to be Turalian when introduced. Lore-wise he says there was a massive time gap between him becoming a gleaner and this Tural adventure, so he probably lost the accent over time and gained a more Viera appropriate one.
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>>681464527
I've been taking my time reading and enjoying myself. Its fine that you don't. Idk why you need to defend your opinion proactively by calling others cultists who consoom. Seems kind of immature.
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>>681464563
I think he means why is he a marble gargling icelandic dude and his mom sounds like an american negro.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPCBAPrIXAY
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>>681464518
Because vieras are a shitty member berry race so they made him sound like xii vieras for no reason even though xiv gave them their own lore
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>>681464518
Because Viera in XII sounded like that, and it was admittedly hot as fuck (there were only female viera). They repeated it with Lyna in ShB and also did it with Erenville, assuming that would just be a Viera thing.

Now for some fucking reason they made Erenville a main character, gave him a background and family and didn't bother to incorporate that accent for her mom or any of the bunnies in Tural.
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>go get some rest wol you need it
>chilling in room
>knock at the door
>could it be another choose your character scene?
>no, it is I, Wuk Lamat
>I want to tell you something uwu...
>actually come to the palace..
>I really love peace!!!
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>>681464593
I don't like Wuk at all, defamation tier post
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i am so fucking tired of this game honestly
>we need to kill titan
>look for info on titan
>speak to some absolute FUCKASS who refers to titan as tidus
>do chore for him
>do another chore for him
>oops it turns out he's a dipshit who'd'a'thunk'it break this rock fuck you
>go to the guy who actually knows what titan is
>he doesn't like how i smell so i have to gather Meats and Cheese to smell like
>kill an evil chicken and take its leg
>get an egg from some asshole in gridania
>get worm meat in sandville
>mhm yep uh huh ok thats all good - YOU FORGOT THE CHEESE DIPSHIT
>do an entire dungeon to obtain a cheese wedge
>look for wine
>climb a mountain and talk to some old fucker and listen to his stupid tea story so i can get the record that lets me locate the essentia 2000
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an expansion where msq fags will seethe will be fun
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So if a two headed Mamool Ja Jack's off is it masturbatuin or incest
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>>681464754
>I want to tell you something uwu...
>actually come to the palace..
pissed me off so much
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>>681464762
Shut the fuck up pedo
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>>681464719
And what's even funnier, they outright establish that Erenville's mom has never been outside of Tural. So it can't even be handwaved that they were from the east.
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>>681464593
Yeah, most copium huffer are fucking lalafell, or people having the default midlander guy as avatar it seems.
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>>681464754
>multiple times where the scions split up
>"you will go with wuk wol"
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>>681464767
Company of Heroes was legendarily bad, to the point that Shadowbringers content that brings them up again lets your WoL hold a grudge over those shenanigans.
Dawntrail is all of that dumbass shit but worse and repeatedly.
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HER HERO MOMENT
HER STORY
HER EXPANSION
HER GAME
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>>681464754
>>I want to tell you something uwu...
>>actually come to the palace..
>>I really love peace!!!
wife material
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>>681464635
I'll probably just have to bite the bullet and make a twitter account to find people to play with but the opportunity is to roleplay as a whore giving blowjobs to strange futas and shotas behind a dumpster on True Vue is too good to pass up.
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>>681464849
it started to feel like they were pawing her off on me
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Playing through this so when does the beach scene with the scions start?
I saw this leak back then and i really want to have fun relaxation time with the scions.
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>>681464810
That is a grievous accusation that should not be used lightly, it makes me suspicious of you
Consult with The Lord, for your own sake
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>>681464918
pedo babble
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Trying to find Estinien's update gear in Textools.

Interestingly Alisaie's version of the level 100 Trust gear is for elezen females, and not for midlander hyurs. Alphinaud's gear is still for hyur bodies.
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>>681464767
That part is so fucking funny multiple sidequests shit on it, mainly unlocking Ivalice
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>>681464917
Nope, not in the MSQ at all, its only trust leveling rewards.
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>>681464793
Yes!
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>>681464696
>proactively
ive already laid out my opinion and if you think hundreds of hours of walking around, clicking on interactables and reading text is compelling gameplay and defend it as such then youre a tribal consoomer cultist
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>>681464917
there's none of that.
this is Trust bonus costumes at lv100 only.
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>>681464941
>>681464868
that is one ugly nigga, ngl
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>>681464593
I play lala and I hate wuk
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>open /v/
>first post I see is wuk lmao's ugly mug
Get fucked MSQfags. You got what you deserve after you didn't give a fuck about the complete butchering of jobs.
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>>681464960
Interesting, it would be fine if they gave her a female body but I doubt that will ever happen
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>>681464762
I liked Wuk's japanese voice, but man. To call her Lyse 2.0 is wrong. Lyse actually fucked off every now and then. I never minded Lyse, to be honest.
Honestly, this all feels like picrel.
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I REALLY LIKED WHEN POOCHIE APPEARED IN THE LAST BOSS FIGHT. IT WAS SO POG
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxivdiscussion/comments/1dsh2wq/japanese_reception_to_dawntrail_msq/

the troon fears the samurai
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>>681464985
>>681464998
Weren't the previous trust costumes stuff that they actually wore? Or am i remembering wrong?
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if you all keep making fun of poochie lamat yoshi p is gonna cry on stream again...
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>>681465015
Doing great Kate! Keep it up!
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I like Dawntrail.
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>>681465020
I just play one of the new jobs each expansion.
I was sad when they fucked up samurai though...
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>>681464301
Some xitter fag keeps spamming the same ragebait images every thread and I guess the janny decided to nuke the whole thread instead of just his off-topic garbage.
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>>681465080
>Can't believe they made the MSQ into one really long beast tribe quest
wow, it really is now that I think about it
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>>681464593
i was annoyed by her at the start with her entire character being complaining about being seasick. she became a good character and pleasant to be around around the middle of Yak'trel, specifically the roleplay instance

her showing up at the end of the Eternal Queen fight is a bit weird to me though. granted that Wuk is the actual protagonist Dawntrail but i kinda feel like she was muscling in on my world saving business which should be way above her ken
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>>681464585
It never ends, does it?
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>>681465146
That seemed to work out great
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>>681465104
Yes, but that is not the case. There is no after MSQ beach party, the Scions aren't even NPCs in the overworld in Tural.
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>>681465137
I like it now that the gay as shit MSQ is over and I can mindlessly farm nodes and refreshing my submersibles and ventures.
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Why are Poochies always hideous troons like Moenbryda, Zero and Wuk?
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>>681465043
Just give her some budding breasts or make them a little taller. I know they said they don't want to age them because they can't de-age them afterwards, but even for a new player, it must feels a bit jarring to see them identical to when they were first introduced by the end of DT
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>>681464917
>G’raha’s not shirtless
BOO
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>>681465107
Good. I hope him and the faggot that replaced Ishikawa commit seppuku live on air.
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Is it just you guys being pissed or is everyone calling this character shit?
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>>681465059
I admit this is a possibility, yeah
I just really am sick of her
I loved travelling with Erenville in Shaaloani and learning about the people and law for a while, we even said hi to Estinien
It was the most comfy point for me and felt like an adventure learning about the people and land with no preaching
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How bad is it for waifu fags? Krile, Alisaie and Y'shtola... do we get any cute scenes with them?
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>>681465263
the first one
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>>681465263
everyone is, she's the reason why reviews are mixed
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>>681465263
its people who don't play the game parroting shitposting they think is real criticism. most of them aren't smart enough to actually come up with something themselves
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>>681465183
Oh Anon, you have such a fucking long way to go with her
9/10 levels
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>>681464256
>First boss is all one shot mechanics
Seriously, I must've died like 10 times before I started running before the NPCs did (as a BLM and doing the dungeon as a Trust so me dying means a wipe).
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Wait, couldn't Sphene just have body-hopped while Otis was protecting her? Why did he have him die for her for literally no reason?
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>>681464658
I mean hes literally just a chud bro.>>681465263
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>>681465020
Well they finally fucked up BLM so I am obligated to care about that even after not caring before.
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>>681465080
>The terminal shutdown portion is such blatant playtime padding
Jesus Christ. I never realized it but he is 100% right
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>>681464767
>GIVE GUY THE FUCKING WINE
>"I...didn't ask for this!!!"
>HAVE TO KILL MOSQUITO SWARMS TO CALM HIM DOWN
it just keeps fucking going man i have leveled up seven times over the course of this bullshit
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>>681464849
>Eren goes with Alisaie to hunt.
>You're stuck picking up pterodactyl shit.
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why is it shiny
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>>681465387
Don't think too hard about it, the writer clearly didn't either.
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Fucking Lost Ark and BDO are the only mmos not infested with troons, and those two are fucking gacha-tier casinos
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>>681465263
People genuinely don't like the character
The story beats are sufficient and even have good peaks, Wuk comes in like a wrecking ball and ruins it every time
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>>681465387
Yoshi is just telling you that they are never going to do Medieval final fantasy setting that isn't a dungeon backdrop only.
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>>681465434
Company of heroes is unironically the greatest filter ever and it used to be even worse
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Now that's a well aged maymay
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>>681465387
Maybe she couldn't because lizardman was controlling the other bodies? No idea desu.
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>janny deleted the chill thread
Aw, c'mon, I wanted to talk about the FSH questline.
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>>681465447
New gil mount teaser
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>>681465278
Heya, Aether Friendo. I'm still waiting for the anon to comment on my updated adventurer plate before I go to bedge.
You know what was funny about the whole thing with the railroad part? The complete lack of any conflict.
What I mean is that it was like "Here's the native american cats and we had no problems at all, we are actually super peaceful and chill, and nothing ever happened between us and we can borrow timber no biggie."
Made me think of RDR2, for some odd reason.
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>>681465463
BDO looks fun but the pop-in is the most insane thing I've ever seen
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>>681465230
Nobody wants them to turn into giraffes, anon.
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>can start crafting higher tier stuff at level 93
>have to get to level 96 on gatherers before you're allowed to see higher tier nodes
Fuckin gay
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>>681465546
Yeah it was a surprisingly quick and easy solution, I expected more of a compromise to be the key to that quest but I guess not
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>>681465302
You'll miss them if you speed read unfortunately.
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Break down why this cute catgirl is so bad.
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>>681465263
imagine SB, but make lyse a furry and have hien, yugiri, the steppe tribes and zenos be obsessed with lyse and instead of her screen time being 80% it's 95%
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>>681465492
yeah my brother just told me about that shit, i can not believe it. YIIK didn't jerk me around this much for crying out loud
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>Paying a monthly subscription for Yoshitpiss to recycle content from FF9, 10 and 11 with a saturday morning cartoon quality level plot.
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>From start to finish it's just problems caused by low IQ lizards, maybe slaughtering all the savages wasn't such a bad idea
Based jap
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>>681465447
>Spat on Cat 1000 times.
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>>681465682
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFBmIwlrPdY
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>>681465682
It's not her, really. It's how the story focuses on her to the exclusion of all others for 70% of its duration.
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>>681465779
It is her. She's obnoxious and retarded.
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God the music in this expac was so good. It makes me hate teleporting around because I never get to the best part of the song.
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>>681465682
Because like any cute thing, IF IT DOESN'T FUCKING SHUT UP AND STOP TALKING AT ME OR FOR ME THEY GET FUCKING ANNOYING. Just leave me the hell alone I want to explore the jungle and kill random stuff for pure sport.
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>>681465696
it's okay they were only testing you haha
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>People still playing tab target MMOs in 2024
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Bros the WoL is gonna get raped
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>>681465702
The Japs really hate the Mamool Ja, they don't like ugly races as anything but mindless monsters to kill.
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>>681465682
She's Naruto except now the storytellers don't spend any time on any characters but Naruto
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>>681465865
And she is still worse than Naruto
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>>681465682
they don't like that wuk is the protagonist of dawntrail. without realizing that the WoL has only been the protagonist of shadowbringers and endwalker.

the same people who actually don't understand that yuna is the protagonist of ff10
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>>681465779
>Jumps into the final boss and does more damage than your entire party while having a big sad scene about how much they love each other
No it's her.
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>>681465840
your sphincter has been hardened from years of taking cock up the ass. when he inserts just clench really really hard and crush his cock like a straw
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>>681465575
I do, I think female giraffes are cute
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>>681464593
i play lala
i fucking hate this expansion already
i cant believe i wasted money and time on this knowing that my friends wont even clear the last savage
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>>681465754
Cocoli, getting to any of the fireworks factories results in Wuk being the focus and catalyst for every single event in each of them.
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>>681465865
>She's Naruto except now the storytellers don't spend any time on any characters but Sakura
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>>681464762
I like Wuk. Kind of.
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>>681465918
>>681465865
Naruto at least has to go through a timeskip to train.
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>>681465927
Wait a fucking minute....
Next you'll say Vaan wasn't the protag of FFXII
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>>681464696
he wants change, and he wants you faggots to actually have some standards so that jew enix can't continue putting in minimum effort
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>>681465927
I'M THE GOD DAMN FUCKING WARRIOR OF LIGHT AND I WILL NOT GO PICK UP DINO SHIT TO CAUSE A DISTRACTION BECAUSE THIS FAGGOT PACIFIST BUNNY SAYS SO WHEN I COULD WALK INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE BANDIT HIDEOUT AND NEUTRALIZE EVERY SINGLE BANDIT IN THERE IN 10 SECONDS OR LESS
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>>681465865
>>681465918
Naruto is gigakino compared to wuk
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I find it funny I ended up wanting fucking "kill x monsters" quests in the main story more than anything.
All those "follow this nigga" or "talk to X" made me wanting to uninstall this crap and never bother again with it.
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just three bros hanging out 1 meter apart, cause we're not gay
we're going to charge our joi crystals later
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>>681465146
>newfag tourist thinks XIV threads get nuked for a "reason"
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>>681465230
All they gotta do is this
>have plot where WoL sees a vision of future event
>everything is hazy and ill defined but there are two obscured figures who are clearly an older Alphinaud and Alisaie, mostly obscured but still have a recognizable enough silhouette
>gauge fan reaction to the idea they might be aged up, how they speculate what they look like, etc,
>based on this, plot either temporarily writes them out of the plot for a while, eventually introduces aged up Alphinaud and Alisaie, or the vision of the past was of but one of many possible futures that may or may not come to pass and shelve the idea never to mention it again
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>>681465801
Agreed. The jazz theme is a bop. It's miles above the ShB and SB hubs.
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>>681466018
I actually agree. Naruto had so many set-backs and was openly disliked by a lot of people. Wuk has none of that and is just loved by anyone.
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So what I gather is that Catgirl is cute, too much Catgirl, the story wants you to like her fast. That's about right.
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Is the red furtroon pinklala because they are just as retarded and obnoxious
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The level of enthusiasm increases as more young girls get put in bondage positions as part of a boss fight.
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>>681464149
Who cares? He's literally retarded and I'm not saying that as hyperbole.
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>>681466086
she starts out quirky and cute, sickeningly so. then she drops the act and starts acting like the role she wants to take on and becomes a good character
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>do literally anything
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>>681466148
A man of taste in a FFXIV is not allowed. You need to leave, bro.
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>>681465927
Are you going to ignore how you're the one who kills Gaius, Nidhogg, and beat Zenos so bad he kills himself? The story can be ABOUT multiple people, the WoL was always the most pivotal person around and given constant attention and importance in ARR to SB even if they explored other characters (generally multiple at one time instead of it just being one.) You had a reason to care and got the asspats and praise you expected. Also, don't compare this to FFX, or Wuk to Yuna, because even though the game was about Yuna, Tidus was extremely important all the way up until the end, his dad is the fucking final boss if you don't remember. His interplay with Yuna is the entire foundation for everyone's character development and the reason the plot's not just a retread of Brasca's pilgrimage. All the party members got more attention than anyone but Wuk gets in Dawtrail to, even Kimahri.
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>>681466150
I just find it funny
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>>681464186
>inn scene was just Wuk
FUCK THIS GAY EARTH
I LOVED the Baldesion arsenal scene. It really reminded me why my Wol is putting up with all of that shit, and the people I love actually care for me. Even that Wuk fucking fails by just talking about her fucking self. The fuck were they thinking with this expansion?
ALSO
>please call me by my nickname x3
WE HAVE BEEN TO THE END OF THE FUCKING UNIVERSE WITH RAHA AND SHTOLA AND STILL ARE NOT ON FIRST NAME BASIS FUUUUUUUUUUCK YOUUUUUU
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>>681466282
Leave me alone I'm shidding
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>>681465447
LEMONADE
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wuk lamat msq
lalafell expansion

and no, i will not elaborate
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>>681466282
She's so cute
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>a small child walked away from the door 5 seconds ago
>NO DON'T CHASE AFTER HIM HE COULD BE ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY
What the fuck

I guess I finally have to ask the question I've been wondering since the moment they said Gulool Ja Ja had a biological son, how exactly do Mamool Ja make babies anyways
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>>681466048
in the first four hours of the expansion you literally fight 8 monsters in the story. The parade has you kill 5 monsters and the trade has you kill 3. That's everything you fight until the first dungeon.
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the new optimal blm aoe line is kinda sick
once you get it started, you never have to cast high blizzard 2 or high fire 2
you just freeze -> filler -> transpose -> flare -> flare -> flare star -> filler -> repeat
and you always have filler because of the thunder changes
I expect black mage to be meta in any fight that requires a lot of aoe dps
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>>681466294
pivotal doesn't mean the story is about you anon.

also, the first arc of Dawntrial is structured almost identically to FF10 up till Bevelle
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>>681466048
>talk to Wuk
>6 minute cutscene
>spawn next to her after the cutscene
>click on her to turn the quest in
>another 5 minute cutscene starts playing
Bravo Yoshida you managed to make a game worse than XVI.
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>>681466282
>based sphene gets rid of her
>ah, thank fuck, time for a fun fight
>the phase swap
what utter dogshit
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>>681466068
>He expects positive fan reaction to a giraffe
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>>681466329
They really thought you were going to love their furry trans cat. That was their gift to you.
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Look I'm not going to tell you that you MUST hate Poochie, but demanding that I MUST love Poochie is where I draw the line.
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>>681464658
>daddy issues the character
I think the literacy issue lies with you
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>>681466471
She doesn't have to go full giraffe, just not a fucking male body, give her the same body as Ryne who cares
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>>681466454
That's how it used to be up until EW where they decided that BLM really needs some fucking filler in their aoe rotation. At least they walked it back in DT.
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I HATE THE TEACUPS
I HATE THE TEACUPS
I HATE THE TEACUPS
I HATE THE TEACUPS
I HATE THE TEACUPS
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There are people who have fallen in love with Wuk and want to marry her.
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>>681466503
thats good character writing
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Just made it to the mamook area and last keystone quest

The story is just ok. I dont really have a reason to call it bad or terrible so far
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"the stormsurge" is a fucking stupid name for a world war desu
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>>681464458
Welp, time for me to go to bed. Gotta start MSQ on the alt, and the power of skipping means Wuk won't exist lol.
Wait, there's the solo instance with her. Dammit.
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>>681466530
The only attractive characters in the whole MSQ this expansion were giraffe women. I am fine with full giraffe.
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>>681466535
It's the first boss that really clenches my fist.
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>>681466535
The second boss of Deadwalk? The secret is that it literally doesn't do anything during the cup spinning part so you can devote all your brain power to following the two ghosts.
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>>681464593
Her panties is white btw
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>>681466549
there were women who wanted to fuck jar jar binks
what is your point
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>>681466613
Fuck that thing
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>>681466454
too bad we havent seen aoe opti in raids since edens gate 1 savage, and that was only 2target
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Genuine question: Did Yoshida actually play the MSQ or did he just read the synopsis?
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>>681465263
Neither, The character is simply not very good regardless of who voices her. I would not feel confident in leaving her or Koana as leaders of a nation.
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>>681466586
and electrope is a stupid name for a tech... it is just one of those expansions...
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>Wuk keeps spamming limit breaks
Wish my WoL could have a moment like that.
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>>681466586
Making literally everything out of the scarce ore and then starting wars over it is also stupid.
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>>681466535
Cmon bro, the 2nd boss is easy as hell. The 1st one though... like 10 seconds of doing nothing at all if you get hit by a mask and the lovely zombies grabbing you all the time because the server ticks still suck balls.
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>>681465278
ah yes, comfortably sleeping. Like normal humans. I also took that screenshot.
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why did the graphics update make my eyes grey
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What the japanese are saying about the MSQ? Any screencaps from 2ch or the forums?
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>>681464014
Okay, which is the best tank on DT? Played to much WAR on EW. Thoughts on DRK?
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>>681466501
If Wuk doesn't get treated like Ran'jit as simply having been a bad idea that never gets any follow-up again, we're basically fucked. Like, goddamn. I thought Zero was bad but at least the cast was allowed to be themselves in cutscenes and all around her. Wuk fucking suffocates the air and prevents any of the party from simply being themselves if you don't talk to everyone outside of the scenes at every opportunity.
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>>681465976
thanks for saving us all, wuk lamat!
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>>681466689
wars over unobtanium is a pretty common literary device anon
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>>681464941
so glad I went with the Japanese VA's for this expansion. It would have ruined the final boss for me if I let that dude talk over the 2nd phase track.
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>>681466613
>be euro playing on NA server due to friends
>first boss requires me to be be clairvoiant because the little dolls are 5 seconds ahead of where they appear on my screen
I really despise that boss.
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>>681466696
The WoL has always slept like a corpse. Azem was autistic.
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>>681466696
I was totally expecting a vision of the golden city to happen here or something. But nothing like that did.
And no choice for talking to the scion of your choice about current events?
I don't get it.
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>>681466458
>pivotal doesn't mean the story is about you anon.
Wow, it's almost like I used that word for a fucking reason to show how you can feel like you're part of the story without being the core character focus.
>It's almost like FF10
And it fails completely for the reasons I described. I NEVER felt like Tidus, They didn't even let me fuck the stupid furry bitch in a lake.
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>>681466732
It wouldn't be so scarce if they didn't pave their fucking roads with it.
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Wuk is made for hyur cock
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>>681466696
God forbid they use something like the fucking poses they already have for beds.
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>>681466725
>If Wuk doesn't get treated like Ran'jit as simply having been a bad idea that never gets any follow-up again, we're basically fucked.
They are rolling out Wuk merch in the Eorzea cafe next month...
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Why the fuck are the scions with us? They do nothing other than help finding stuff
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>>681466751
They can't give you a choice, what if you didn't pick wuk
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The NPC pulling a "no way fag" on the chick on a bike in True Vue would amuse me way more if it didn't seem they're implying he's actually a fag meeting his gay lover.
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>>681466771
i imagine the paved roads came after the cooking pots and lights and stuff
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>I don't really feel like I'm getting a lot of video game activity... I feel like I'm getting a lot of... visual novel activity
t. my wife 2 hours into this expansion
Even the normiest of normies are going to rebel against squeenix for this transgression
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>>681466787
As representative of the hyur cock community, we decline and insist the elezen cock community takes one for the the team.
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>>681466718
GNB is the best like always.
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>>681466813
Bodies for trusts.
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>>681466606
those were adults not hebes
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estinien was the real azem all along
we're the seat that tard wrangled
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>>681466530
Why do you want her to age up by like 2 human years? Like holy shit dude, there's no point in doing that unless your goal is to creep her towards giraffe status, otherwise it's like you're just begging for Alissaie to have bigger tits and an inch in height because it makes you horny.
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>>681466407
This is never ever ever explained. Zoraal Ja's child is one of the strangest most insane things I've ever seen in a narrative. Random mystery child conceived with no one just gets to become king of Solution 9 for what reason?? Because his dad forcibly took over power from Sphene somehow and now that both Sphene and Zoraal ja are dead this 7 year old lizard just gets to be god emperor of a society more advanced than Allag? I thought i was hallucinating this character every scene he was in. What the fuck?
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Are you ready for their glorious return?
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>>681466598
Fuck of to /vg/ avatarfag.
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>>681465387
I just watched that ep today
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>>681466671
No way, or he fell into the "everything is going to come together mindset".
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>>681466876
That was overly stupid even by the expansion standards.
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>>681466813
There was supposed to be more of a friendly competition feeling to this expansion initially, I think.
Got turned into the Wuk Lamat show...
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>>681464014
Wuk Lamat is amazing if you use the German or Japanese voice over.
Completely changes her character to be voiced by an actual woman.
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>>681466760
yeah, the WoL was more important to Dawntrail than Tidus was to FF10

don't get angry at me if you can't see that your character is a big influence on other characters
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>>681466818
I just want a looping slav squat emote now that I know they have them.
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>>681466407
Gulool Ja is like Jesus. Born of a virgin. So is his father
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>>681466879
Would be too kino.
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>>681465059
DT needs a buzzword counter, there are so many pozzed terms thrown in that just pull you right out of the game and remind you that Kate really shouldn't be allowed near the writing room.
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>>681466851
EW was also very visual novel-y thanks to the oodles of plot you had to wade through. The difference was it had solo duties to make up the time, and the plot was constantly doing new things. Half of DT is written like someone wanted to do Company of Heroes on a zone-by-zone basis of localizing fetch quests to pad out time.
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>>681466654
and this is the expansion where square finally decided to make the fights interesting again
I see no reason why they won't make the raids good again too
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>>681466407
Probably a clone, Jango/Boba Fett style.
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>>681466851
My wife was seething over the same thing and she likes visual novels.
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>>681465059
so here's some real work for you. comb through the credits and try to link names there to those consulting firms
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>>681466859
Forsooth, we of the Elezen Cock Congregation must decline, and broadly proclaim this mountain one that the Lalafellin must conquer.
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>>681466971
Oh, it's never been done for Lalafells before, so it seems like it's coming soon if it's added here. Only took them 11 years, I guess.
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>>681466454
You have to cast Fire IV 4 times in a row, there's no filler.
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>>681466725
Look, they were told that they would be stereotyping the WoL as a "white savior" or a colonizer if they let the WoL take center stage and save everyone. You must admit that being accused of being that is worse than a not very good character.
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>he big vocal theme is a all female, black gospel choir singing about unity and peace
Could they be any more on the nose?
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I just wanted to say it's really funny seeing the threads with positive OPs and only the positive ones get deleted.
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>shits all over your dungeon group
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>>681465976
Was your WoL trying or paying attention at that point? Why do you care, it was hardly a fight. The thing was nearly starved to death after 80 years of aether drain and there was like 10 people fighting
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>>681467016
they said they would do this in endwalker too. i'll believe it when i see it.
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>The only highlander in all reflections to not shave his eyebrows is the Viper job trainer
Why do the Turali highlanders do it? What's the lore?
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>>681466454
>I expect black mage to be meta in any fight that requires a lot of aoe dps
so...
dungeons
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>>681466851
>>681467046
I think it's made even worse when you have the justification and opportunity to club a bastard's head in, but either let them run away or Lemutt does the hand thing saying it's her business not ours
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>Wuk: my daddy could not beat the strength of our bonds
>one of the strongest beings in the universe standing behind her
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>>681466876
how the fuck did he have the kid
IT MAKES NO SENSE
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>>681466875
I want her to have smooth female skin and be easier to lewd
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>>681467076
that's for single target, retard-kun
we're talking about AoE
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>>681466148
Did they just take cool ideas from past square games? Member that time Lavos kidnapped Schala and became the devourer of time, what if we do something like that and call it the world devourer instead? Brilliant!
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>>681466329
>WE HAVE BEEN TO THE END OF THE FUCKING UNIVERSE WITH RAHA AND SHTOLA AND STILL ARE NOT ON FIRST NAME BASIS
I think that's more the WoL being autistic rather than either of them insisting on it.
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>>681467138
rape
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>>681466947
You didn't play FF10. The whole reason any of the plot happens is because Tidus is summoned there to make it happen. He's the only reason anyone tries to find another way to beat Sin.
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>>681467095
2nd boss of the ghost town EX does that.
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>>681465976
Genuinely worse than Lyse, and she was fucking awful.
>All three promises join in alongside the scions
>Nah, Wuk is the only one and that friend of hers
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>>681467095
Do people really think that guy is hard? So far, outside of knwledge-checks by them obfuscating the AoE indicators none of the dungeons were any hard. You can run them all without a healer as Paladin.
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>>681466718
Gunbreaker/Paladin are supposed to be the best
Gunbreaker gets Lionheart, that would sway me to play it personally
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>>681467080
>white savior
>colonizer
No, that's the white adoptive cat boy son of the king whose entire modus operandi is "I WILL ELEVATE OUR CULTURE WITH FOREIGN INVENTIONS AND TECHNOLOGY"
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>>681467191
Who?? Just a random non-Mamool Ja girl?? Why did he decide to do that 20 years into living in Alexandria?
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>Let's make Amaurot 2 as the final area, but still very cool looking
>Proceed to destroy the whole zone
Thanks I guess.
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>>681464014
if everyone here hates it why is /v/ playing it as much as possible and finishing the msq before the game is even released?
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>>681467173
Oh yeah. Sure he's right, but the single target rotation sucks.
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>>681466851
it's about 7 hours without skipping to get to the first dungeon, good luck
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>>681467207
yes. but that doesn't happen till Macalania. the WoL is there pushing Wuk to pet alpacas and shit from the start. ergo, more important
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>>681465015
Did Koji Fox shadow quit and get replaced by this goblinx?
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>>681467249
>>681466860
I'm more than happy to give GNB more playtime them. ty bros
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>>681467138
Clone. Though it'll probably be answered when it's explained how GJJ made ZJ in post-DT MSQ patches.
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>>681466859
As a member of the elezen cock community, I must kindly turn down the generous offer of Wukpussy and suggest the Lalacock handle this one in a way only a Lala can
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>>681467138
Just stop trying to make sense. Like how the citizens of Solution 9 are totally ok with some loin cloth rag wearing jungle furry Wuk is letting them know their city is now run by a 5 year old beastchild.
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>>681467295
he was probably moved to the new projects and focuses on that in between the buttrock sessions with soken
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>>681466859
>>681467072
God I fucking love this website
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>tfw enjoying story overall

eh, I don't find Wuk that annoying but I'm also playing in JP dub so her voice is nice
I heard EN bros are getting fucked
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>>681467072
We of the Lalafellin schlong syndicate respectfully decline, and insist the Mi'qote scratch that cat's itch.
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>>681467105
Durante doesn't shave his eyebrows either, it's an Ala Mhigan cultural thing. This does imply your character is a filthy mhigger, culturally.
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What's the rundown on monk now? Better or worse? Not seeing a level 100 opener yet.
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>>681466876
This confused me, I thought it was going to be him from another world/timeline/somethingwacky but no, no explanation whatsoever. The other thing I'm questioning is the fact that no one has still explained or even questioned how or why the portal was even there to begin with or why no one was bothering to use it.
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>>681467295
He got promoted and so bailed out of this trainwreck. Same with Ishikawa
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>>681464527
Same.
Just beat the MSQ. 4/10 at best. Easily the worst expansion they have ever released. The fact that the final arc is you committing mass genocide, completing invalidating the points of arcs like Amaurot and Elpis, is insane to me. The fact that plot didn't get started for seven levels is obnoxious. Wuk Lamat breaking into the FINAL FUCKING TRIAL and stealing all the spotlight for the LAST SEQUENCE of the MSQ is baffling.
If I was not locked in for Savage, I would uninstall and unsubscribe from the game. Absolutely terrible fucking writing, I don't care how good the battle content is. I am not paying Square 12 a month and 40 every 2-3 years to shit onto my fucking screen for 30 hours. The amount of filler in this expansion is insane. Easily every zone has at least an hour of filler at MINIMUM, and this is already a story where nothing happens for dozens of fucking hours.
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>>681467272
spamming as many fire IVs as possible has been the black mage rotation since heavensward, anon
you can still do 3f4 paradox 3f4 if you meld enough spell speed, but the game really wants you to get down to the wire and hold your instant paradox until you're almost out of time on your AF timer
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>>681466947
>yeah, the WoL was more important to Dawntrail than Tidus was to FF10
No, no he's not. Yuna is deeply in love with Tidus and completely transforms as a person because of him. She seeks out an alternate way to beat Sin and rejects what she thought was her destiny because he made her believe it was possible. He made her want to live, when before she had devoted her life to dying. The WoL is NOTHING like that to Wuk, you are at best her cheerleader and mild friend.
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>>681467095
What is really filtering the shitters is the first boss of Alexandria
They just cannot handle the front/back O + movement
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>>681467295
Yes
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>>681467295
No Koji didn't quit, Kate was probably hand-picked by him.
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>>681467270
Because I have a crafting empire to run and the only way to unlock zones is through the MSQ.
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>>681467290
Every interaction Tidus is having with Yuna is important as early as the boat ride to Kilika, dude.
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>>681467364
It's a case of someone speaking an accent they clearly don't have and sometimes forgetting how they sounded in previous conversations.
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>>681464974
>Ivalice makes fun of it
>Matsuno's writing is a thousand times more guilty
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>>681467493
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>>681467379
We rrrrrefuse, the Au Ra must take care of the purrroblem.
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>>681467270
>everyone here hates
should tell those fuckers making my queues longer
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WHY THE FUCK DOES NIER RAIDS TAKE SO LONG TO DO COMPARED TO EVERYTHING ELSE HOLY SHIT
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>>681465927
>this is my story
you guys should actually play the classic FF's sometime instead of parroting E-celebs
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>>681464527
Yeah same I agree, it's really weird that people still play WoW in 2024 but I guess they just can't move on.
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I swear 60% of the quest markers in this expansion lead to cutscenes, what's wrong with some good old fashioned text boxes for your boring scene where nothing actually happens and nobody does anything visually noteworthy
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>>681467493
Kain ponytail when?
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>>681467448
This. Got stuck one hour with retards who couldn't run into the boss to avoid shit. By the end I gave up and did it with trusts.
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>>681467536
AHHHH STOP STOP STOP MAKE IT STOP
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These fucking names.
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>>681467382
But the highlanders in Tural, and solution 9 shave them too so it can't be just an Ala Mhigan thing.
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>>681467256
Because his father sired a child after taking the throne I guess
He's daddy issues the character, it's really cringe
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>>681466017
if every problem could just be solved by going murderhobo on everything and everyone, wouldn't that get boring?
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>>681467687
for me, it Notocactuar
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>>681467714
It's for the same reason all of the Hingan roegadyn have Hellsguard models. {Don't worry about it.}
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>>681467664
>long hairstyle
>in XIV
anon......
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>>681467737
but what is it if its notocactaur?
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>>681467448
what was the first boss? I only remember eliminator, who I thought was gonna be a trial.
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>only enjoy Warrior
I feel like I'm missing out, but none of the other jobs are fun to play to me. I wish there was a melee job with lots of procs. No, I will not play Dancer because it looks stupid and gay (and not in the good way).
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>>681467723
Samurai's questline is very specifically a lesson on "no, you can't murderhobo everything" and it sails over everybody's heads.
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>>681467652
>bringing up wow out of nowhere
go back blizzdrone
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I think it goes without saying, but Solution 9 just completely breaks the world.

This is a society that, visually and by what we're told, has likely millions of people in one layer (Solution 9) alone. There are immense modern skyscrapers and highways that stretch on as far as the eye can see. Electrope is literal miracle-matter that can esentially do anything because of its zero-energy-loss aetheric conversion. We also see Sphene literally create it and destroy it like computer data somehow. They can use electrope to make infinite food and feed and house everyone with a perfect welfare state.

Alexandria is essentially more populous than the rest of the world combined. They have infinite resources and the most advanced technology in the world by far, and unlike the first, they can just walk to the source through a gate. Their immortality technology (the regulators) are totally undisturbed by the end of the MSQ and can, in all likelihood, just be brought outside or reversed-engineered by someone like Nero or Cid in a day.

How does a place like this coexist in a narrative with Doma and Garlemald who have serious worldbuilding concerns over housing, resources, and refugees? How does this just not completely break everything by existing at all?
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>>681464369
More like Woke Lmao
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>>681467778
Viper is melee Dancer
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>>681467785
But that's the game your post was about?
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look what the cat dragged in
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>>681467778
Same
I like dancer gameplay but holy shit they look Gay as fuck
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>>681467795
Literal diversity hire vs. trained latin american actor.
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>>681467758
no tocar el cactuar
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This was supposed to be Krile's expac, and maybe Erenville could be cool too (even though he's a nigger (anime niggers aren't real niggers, so they're like 7/8 a vote)). Instead it's this fucking cunt. Wuk Lamat more like Cuck Lamao ffs
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>>681467407
>The fact that the final arc is you committing mass genocide, completing invalidating the points of arcs like Amaurot and Elpis, is insane to me
what the fuck? they're literally the same, stopping a race of people who're supposed to be dead from killing off everyone else, they both have moments of "if you were in our position you'd do it too" even.
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>>681466464
Honestly as much as I dislike the way she interjects despite having three fucking wins under her belt already in big fights, the really grating thing is that she's still speaking to Sphene like she's human and bashes the robot hard enough to get it to reload the still not-human Sphene. What's the point in spending an entire zone really honing in on the fact that the Endless are just memory shades if she's gonna act like that's not the case.
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>>681467557
that's not a Mi'qote, that's a gay Hrothgar impostor.
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>>681467594
long walks between boss rooms
lots of transitions (pod gliding between legs, falling down shafts, incapacitations so a phase change cutscene/dialogue can play)
bosses have lots of little phases too
oddly have not seen Paradigm's Breach at all the past couple of weeks
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>The Arizona cowboys were able to defend themselves while everyone else suffered heavy casualties

What did they mean by this?
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>>681467815
Viper doesn't get procs though. Doesn't it just cycle combos depending on what buff you need like other melee?
>>681467840
Yeah it really sucks. Machinist looks way cooler but the gameplay is so static unfortunately.
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>>681467808
We'll find out in the patch quests.
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>>681467838
just because you think about wow 24/7 doesnt mean the rest of us do
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>>681464014
The more people hate her the more I want to fuck her senseless. Just imagine having angry sex with her while calling her ugly and useless.
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God this is the worst MSQ by a mile, even Endwalker and Stormblood are better.

Bakool Ja Ja is the only redeemable part of it.
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>>681467723
Then the stupid designer shouldn't put you in a situation that can be VERY CLEARLY and VERY OBVIOUSLY solved through murderhoboing, you fucking retard.
>nooo there's too many shitbandits from some shithole that couldn't even conceive of a sail, we're doooomed
GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE
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>>681467257
You have to let go anon.. memories are just that.
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>>681467858
To be fair, Krile-fags kinda had it coming after relentlessly shit talking every other waifu in the weeks before DT hit.
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>>681467808
>why do places like africa and india exist when northwestern europe exists?
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>>681465015
>Says gender neutral was SORELY NEEDED in FFXIV
>Immediately introduces a fucking tranny VA
I'm assuming on the last one but what are the odds?
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>>681467389
Really fun. Though it's tough to get rid of the muscle memory to want to reapply my damage up buff after fucking 11 years of it.
Trying to get used to RoF with Fire's Reply and how that gives a Formless Fist, as to not overlap it with Perfect Balance.
Honestly I forsee them in the future making the RoF formless fish give a different buff. Kinda like how RDM's acceleration doesn't override Swiftcast, if that makes sense.
Earth's Reply is nice to give extra healing, Fire/Wind Reply looks sick. I dunno, it just feels cool.
In terms of Damage, since there's no DoT/Buff, I forsee trying to utilize as many Bootshines/Dragon Kick alterations as possible, when not needing to do the Light Nadi Blitz.
Until an "opener" is figured out, I'm just vibing in the dungeons.
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>>681467808
I'm convinced that Solution 9 was meant to be a digital world made out of computer data and wasn't actually supposed to be physically real and they fucked it up somehow between conception and realization. There's no explanation as to how any of this can or should exist in reality.
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hey gamers i am getting ready to tackle ex tomorrow
does anybody know if melding with +54 is good at all? i melded my right side but i'm avoiding the left side until i have a bit more of tome gear
but i saw people melding with the old materia X and considering the stat boost i guess it makes sense? what are the caps?
if anybody has melded and tackled the ex trials let me know
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7.1 will save the game?
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>>681467905
It cycles combos but the actual proc or skill glow is telling you which one you need next rather than a strict "you can press skill now" thing.
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>>681467808
You are putting more thought into it then the writers
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>>681467874
you do know some of the miqo tribes still talk like mithra in XIV right
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>>681467941
If the United States developed room temperature superconductors tomorrow it would instantly transform the entire world, including africa and india.
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>>681467840
Gotta lean into it a little I find
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>>681467914
I don't think about it I'm just saying you brought it up in a thread about a totally unrelated game that's pretty fucking weird bro.
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>>681467930
Ah yes Biff, the high school bully of young Marty--er, Wuk Lamat.
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>>681466998
Can you name some? I skipped DT because fucking ew, looked lame as fuck and the classes weren't going to change significantly but I am curious.
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>>681467389
completely fucked, you dont even follow you 1-2-3 form combo anymore and under 86 you dont even interact with the 2 nadi system
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>>681467978
fucking how
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>>681467961
>first image of the tournament normal raids looks like we're diving inside of a computer to fight the arena tournament shit
>apparently no that's just how the city looks and it's all real and physical
uhhhh
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>>681467967
there is no point in wasting new materia on it, all that gear is going into the garbage when savage comes out with crafted gear
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>>681466851
Just out of curiosity how the fuck do you make it to DT without realising this has literally always been the case?
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>>681467935
I'm not even a krile fucker, I just wanted to see her be a person after getting sidelined for so long
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>>681467883
In terms of just doing the raids in roulette, then Dun Scaith is pretty long as well and I've never felt like any of the Ivalice raids are all that fast.
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>>681468028
Fuck no it wouldn't the US would be hoarding that against its life and making sure only the rich elite get it until inevitably it leaks.
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>>681468043
>young Marty--er, Wuk Lamat.
You mean Poochie.
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>>681467942
Leftists are saboteurs and vandals by nature
They cannot create, only corrupt and destroy
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I am confused about something
how does this whole expansion works as a set up for a new adventure?????
Every bad guy was defeated and theres no mistery nigga this time
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>>681467983
That's not really what I'm looking for unfortunately. Melee in XIV is just not for me, though I wish it was.
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>>681467978
Buckle up pardner, this lil fella's about to save the expac.
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>>681468072
thanks but that doesn't answer my question, i'm aware of that but savage is in 3 weeks
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>>681468084
She just continues her trend of being top billed in content (Eureka, last 24 man raid etc...) and ending up doing nothing.
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>>681467407
digital recreations based on the memories of dead people aren't people, anon
they're literally not human, they don't have souls
it's not murder
the point of amaurot and elpis was that people who actually mattered and were alive were going to get actually genocided, not fake computer people
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>>681467808
I agree. Solution 9 must be destroyed.
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>>681468115
The cup is ascians
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>>681468112
how many times have i seen the "leftists cannot create" song and dance and how many times has a loud jackass bray gone through the room when it's typed out
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>>681468021
nothing against gay hrothgars bro but the fur all over the body and lack of any clothes except a towel gives you away
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>>681464149
I thought this guy fucked off. why is his grifting ass still fucking around in the FFXIV sphere.
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>>681468115
Mystery niggas appear 3/4 into the story
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>>681467808
The thing is they could only power all that thanks to the calamity. Right now they’re using the dome’s lightning, and you see in the end on the shard the calamity seems to be gone by now.
But yes the tech is ridiculous for this world its literally cyberpunk they probably have some shit even ancients didnt have.
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>>681468093
Ivalice series is pretty egregious with the walks between fights too
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>>681466148
>young girls get put in bondage positions
Now we're talking
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>>681468028
no, their population (their rich, anyway) would enjoy it while their government continues fucking up foreign entities to its benefit
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>>681468115
>ancient lalafells had a fucking shard hopping relic all along
you think?
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>>681468115
All you did was move the Scions over to Tural and get Azem's key.
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>>681468115
we got the mystery artifact that has been used to open rifts. the entire rest of the story is irrelevant
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>>681468068
Right? And the stuff with Sphene just being able to create and destroy matter at will with computer data pixel particle effects coming off of it. Something had to have went wrong or changed here.
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>in this battle you will play as wuk lamat
fuck off
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Post Yugiri
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You did /pet and /hug Gulool, right? It's HIS expansion.
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>>681468115

Well for one there's this whole issue >>681467808, then you obviously have the key of Azem that opens up literally anything or anywhere as a possibility. Also don't forget that Sphene succeeded in world forging before (and during the fight?) and it's mentioned that you might be checking out that trail of destruction.

Mostly it's the key, not a bad guy but a lead to follow.
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>>681468176
Feeling attacked? Good.
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>>681467182
interesting that your mind leapt to chrono trigger when there's an FF12 example right on the page
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>>681468080
Why is this the latest DT hopium cope?
>No you don't understand the game has always been shit
Shut the fuck up retard, by virtue of being here playing this schwarbage I have played the other shit, and although to one degree of or another it was irritable, it was not this outrageously horrendous. This ENTIRE expansion is literally following some DEI retard's doughnut steal around and cheering her on as she solves everyone's problems.
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>>681467978
We're fucked, literally everyone will not renew their sub after this mess.
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>>681468264
no, it's wuk lamat. she appointed herself guardian aka decision maker of an entire second nation.
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>>681467978
get new pics
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>>681468112
I agree that they're saboteurs but those faggots def. create shit.

Regardless, what's this Tolkien quote gotta do with what I said?
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>solution 9
is this how zoomers dress nowadays?
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>>681468247
If you could stomach Hien's dumpy ass then your dick won't shrivel off if you play as Woot Lmao for a few minutes.
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>>681467808
Only way they can try to salvage this kind of weird power creep is to make some bullshit up about the dome around it not letting anyone in but the WoL or whatever that is already attuned there. Kind of like us with the First. They keep it isolated, no one in or out except us going forward.
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>>681468264
>people bitch and moan about the futuristic PvP gear being everywhere and not fitting the lore
>oops it was foreshadowing and it's now standard wear in your face in the plot itself
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>91-page thread on official forum shitting on woke lemutt's tranny eng va

jfc https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/494319-Feedback-Wuk-Lamat-s-English-Voice
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>>681468305
donut steel, anon
not doughnut steal, that ruins the whole joke
donut steel, that's how you're supposed to write it
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>>681464868
Kikes are so hideous. All goblins.
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>>681467182
Don't tell this anon that the entire ascian and ancient storyline is lifted from FF11.

no shit you fucking retard
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Honestly after the duel with Wukka's dad we should have been banned from the participating in the contest.
>yes my daughter you can have the strongest adventurer, crafter and gatherer in the world assist you in your claim
>this is very fair
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>>681468327
get a life
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>That ending theme
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Expansion needed more solo duties.
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>>681468305
That's a SEPARATE fucking complaint you NIGGER
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>>681468306
if stormblood didnt kill the game, this won't. one expansion of bad MSQ won't do it lmao
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>>681467860
You unironically lack media literacy.
In Alexandria, we meet 'memories' of people who have thoughts, hopes, feelings, and dreams. Why are they any less real than we are? Just because the writers say so? How do these memories, which act exactly like real people, become any lesser than the Exarch? Or the Scions after returning from Shadowbringers? What is the difference, that makes them 'fakes' and us 'real'?
The writers cannot have it both ways: where they attempt to tug on our heartstrings at the loss of these characters, while simultaneously treating these characters as if they were always dead and we are simply cleaning up. The fact that we, as the Warrior of Light, did not even TRY to look for another way is hilarious. You're about to see every Twitterfag retard go completely ballistic the moment they get there.
Terrible expansion overall. I cared nothing for any character except for Otis, who gets lmao'd by the writers as hard as the rest of the cast.
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>actually goes on a actual adventure where the WoL has to ask for permission to go on vacation

My hot take is that I'd like for us to take a break from the Scions and let the WoL have actual new adventures by themselves and a new cast.
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>>681468385
u don't like disney music bro?
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>>681468292
you're worried about getting hit by that "keep crying" filter aren't you
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>>681468379
>says the retard who doomposts 24/7
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>>681468368
official forums, reddit and /v/ are a minority

in the actual game and twitter, everybody is praising and has no problem with her va. die mad chuds
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>>681467932
I would but i got quests there
Actually i don’t think the dungeon quest explained how they’re able to connect to the robots over there still?
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>>681464917
>when does the beach scene with the scions start?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>681468354
Did you skip the credits? It's clearly an issue and is presented as something we'll see in the patch story most likely.
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>>681468376
>strongest adventurer, crafter and gatherer in the world
Who? That's not WoL. WoL's jobs to some random loser every expansion. Doesn't even beat the final boss in this one.
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>>681468115
The MacGuffin key that (You) have now will be researched into it's origins. Thinking it's something the ancients made.
Remember, the first Umbral Calamity has no record of what existed prior after the Sundering. It's probably what Azem and others created until it was passed down.
Talks of a "Great Serpent" that works as boundaries to the worlds, first hinted in EW Studium quests. From the Expert Dungeon, picrel. Ouroboros, but instead of devouring worlds like in Bravely, could provide passage to worlds?
Other worlds may have been affected from the battle with Sphene, so wondering what fallout from that will lead into it.
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>>681468398
They are literally fueled by the breaking down of souls and we had no time to find another solution.
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>>681468321
I found that hilarious.
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>>681468427
i liked naldthal and menphina's theme
this is some wukkanda forever shit
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>>681468368
Why did they hire a white trannoid and not an actual spic woman? That's what mystifies me
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>>681468302
the only thing I remember about ff12 is ashe was a bitch but she had a nice ass in those booty shorts and the viera was hot and vaan was a huge faggot and balthier should've been the main character also the gambit system trivialized the game, also chrono trigger > ff12 and it's not even close
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>>681468115
bro your
>Preservation group
>Spheen hat blinking
>Azem cup
>Dimension hopping lalafells
>Zoraal Ja memory copy
?
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>>681468028
If literally anyone invented something that impacts energy generation in a major way would mysteriously die and their workplace suddenly broken into and looted by unknown people.
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>kicked in a dungeon for watching a cutscene
wow..........great community btw.
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>>681468405
I am way more mad about Estinien's Trueblood armor getting updated while mine didn't than I am about him going on a real adventure or whatever the fuck imaginary problem is going on.
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>>681468468
It's a good thing we took all that time in zones 5 and 6 to get tasty snacks instead of looking for a solution then, isn't it?
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>>681468405
>My hot take is that I'd like for us to take a break from the Scions and let the WoL have actual new adventures by themselves and a new cast.
But that just happened, nigga. Wuk, Erenville and admittably the lobotomized Krile are all new characters. The Scions might as well not have been there, they had 0 impact on the plot and didn't prevent any new characters from joining.
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>>681468264
Hello future fuckbois, this is your new 8 year old leader. I am his guardian, so I am also your facto leader. You get no say in this. Now get back to waging.
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>>681468405
It would have worked a lot better as a FF11 style story, just you and the main NPC and no huge party to drag around. Frankly the scions didn't need to be there at all and the game would have been better for it.
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>>681468498
people trying to stir larps and drama proclaim it was kate running connections and fucking over the other VAs to the point that one was considering quitting, but there's no proof of it
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>>681468405
Fuck your idea, this is how you get an all black and diverse cast of black people with at least 1 cripple and 3 queers.
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>>681468531
KEKW enjoy your stay fucking faggot
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Speak with Wuk Lamat and have her and Krile accompany you
Head to Bayside Bevy while accompanied by Wuk Lamat and Krile, and speak with Wuk Lamat at the designated location.
Head to the aetheryte plaza while accompanied by Wuk Lamat and Krile, and speak with Wuk Lamat at the designated location.
Head to Brightploom Post while accompanied by Wuk Lamat and Krile, and speak with Wuk Lamat at the designated location.
Head to Xak Tural skygate while accompanied by Wuk Lamat and Krile, and speak with Wuk Lamat at the designated location.
Speak with Wuk Lamat and have her and Krile accompany you.
Head to Talonmarch while accompanied by Wuk Lamat and Krile, and speak with Krile at the designated location.
Head to the Resplendent Quarter while accompanied by Wuk Lamat and Krile, and speak with Krile at the designated location.
Head to the dirigible landing while accompanied by Wuk Lamat and Krile, and speak with Wuk Lamat at the designated location.
Head to the Arch of the Dawn while accompanied by Wuk Lamat and Krile, and speak with Wuk Lamat at the designated location.
Speak with Wuk Lamat again.
Speak with Wuk Lamat again.
Speak with Wuk Lamat again.
Wait for Wuk Lamat at the designated location.
Give the alpaca wool to Wuk Lamat.
Give the fine hatchet to Wuk Lamat.
Hand the jug of three-year-old premium mezcal to Wuk Lamat.
/cheer on Wuk Lamat.
Speak with Wuk Lamat outside Xbalyav Ty'e.
Also, "Speak with Wuk Lamat." appears 22 times.
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>>681468531
unironically report them, i remember bans being issued for that shit
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>>681468582
Sounds like a pretty typical 4channoid lie, I've kinda lost count of how many "this NEPO HIRE TRANNY came perilously close to ruining everything" posts I've read over the years that weren't even on this plane of reality.
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>>681465080
This shit right here is damning holy fuck. I'll deal with it but the fact that someone actually called it for what it is is actually incredible. I hope the dude who wrote the MSQ can pivot because people are fucking actually coming for their ass.
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Otis was the only good character and he died like a bitch for no reason since Sphene could have just jumped into another robobody.
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>>681465224
At least Moen was only in one patch.
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>>681468531
You can get them banned for that if you write a report. MSQ roulette works the way it does (no cutscene skips) specifically because of this shit going on with Castrum and Praetorium back in the day.
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>>681468465
no more wuk wuk
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>>681468521
who cares
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>>681468468
Should have built a moon, trapped an elder primal in it, and harvested solar aether to some giant crystal tower.
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>>681468531
DPSpeasants are replaceable
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Godspeed bros. See you in 7.2.
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>>681468542
In zone 6 we were on a timer that Eren's mom was informing us of and overall it wasn't much time. And for most of zone 5 we didn't know what the issue was. By the time we knew what the actual issue was there was what, a day at most?
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Is there another interaction like this somewhere?
If you En Avant on DNC three times and switch to AST, your Draw will be on a 90s CD. What???????? It's 30s for every charge you use.
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>>681468652
Please go back to your website and stay there, no one here cares about your opinions and no one on the dev team does either.
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>>681468582
>>681468651
Shut the fuck up, faggots. It's obvious what your motivation for these leftroon posts are.
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>>681468405
This was the direction I thought it would go based on the end of the Endwalker MSQ. I mean you literally have
>a B team
>scions (A and B teams) splitting up and going to different places
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I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE IM SO BORED PLAYING THIS SHIT I WANT TO CLAW MY FUCKING EYES OUT. I GRINDED A PTERANODON AND RESPLENDENTS ON CONTENT IN 12 WEEKS AND I CANT DEAL WITH THIS MSQ ANYMORE
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>>681467182
don't watch any anime
https://x.com/aTx2lDbZZSvnbBT/status/1453282411266125825
>>681468531
which one? they try very hard to prevent that happening, there's barely any cutscenes in dungeons these days and the one time it matters they're all made unskippable.
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>>681468353
I liked Hien though
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sex with wuk lamut
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>>681468531
Good, get fucked
If you want cutscenes go play with NPCs
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why does he sound like that
why was there a blind woman
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>>681468780
Hien is stinky.
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>>681468720
We were on a timer and did straight up 3 hours of filler. The only interesting parts of Zone 6 are the bit with Otis and with Krile's parents. Everything else is straight up filler and lacks any purpose in the plot, much like 90% of the shit you do in this fucking expansion.
You get snacks TWICE in zone 6. A timer my fucking ass. We're on a goddamn vacation.
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>>681468740
Drink that copium cunt. WukWuk Binks is shelved immediately or this game is dead.
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>>681468630
in just one quest? wow.
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>>681468740
The dev team is eating shit from their own audience you fucking retard
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>>681465080
>What happened to the Yoshida who immediately killed Moenbryda? Please kill Wuk Lamat I'm begging you

kek
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>>681467784
Samurai's questline pisses people off because we're playing a baka gaijin who is tasked with defending an evil feudal government we are outright told is evil and that hates and despises baka gaijin, and that even gave us shit in the MSQ. We kill the one guy who wants to fix things and then get told we're okay for a dirty baka gaijin but we still can't leave the city with our dirty foreign feet. Of course people are going to hate that shit. If they wanted people to take that lesson to heart they'd have introduced an actual peaceful reformer (who had a real chance of doing anything) and have us help them at some point, so at least we can be told "Someday the Hingan people will recognize the good you've done for them" or some shit and feel like it might be true.
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>>681468796
>a blind woman
Where? I finished and I never came across her
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>>681468796
JP, FR and DE voice actors are all male btw
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>>681468762
This is by far the longest msq to date. Every other xpack and even ARR I wanted to know what happened next, I pushed myself to do just one more quest. This time around I am struggling to clock an hour at a time.
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Dawntrail is written for toddlers. It's such a pile of shit.
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>>681468662
Yeah that was dumb, but he didn't know. He wasn't around for all this new tech. He also saved the party though.
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MSQ has always been shit and boring
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>>681468465
Now I'm picturing a giant interdimensional Snake Way from DBZ connecting the Shards
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>>681468857
the zone before this cutscene, just a random blind woman
>>681468861
not surprised
the negress robot sucks too
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>>681468832
>>681468810
People who don't play their game are not their audience.
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>>681468464
someone post the minstrel pic
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The elezen chick from Solution Nine is my waifu
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>>681468816
level 90 quests only.
The trend continues up until at least 95 though.
It's fucking horrible.
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>>681468867
This. It's called the Dawntrail Hour. You can't physically play through the MSQ for long er than an hour and hold interest.
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Oooh lawdy mah soon erenvilllee
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>>681468731
Yes. Its not a bug
All skills have IDs, and when they go on CD, that specific ID go on CD. And all jobs share some kind of oGCD ID between their skills
So when you switch jobs, that same ID on that job will not refresh CD unless inside town.

Use Manafont outside of town and switch to DRG for example.
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>>681468405
this was what bothered me the most, if all this shit happening was just a backdrop while my WoL just wandered about and adventuring/seeing the new land as a nobody and ONLY getting involved when shit was starting to get bad for everyone, I would've liked it a lot more. But spending nearly the ENTIRE time babysitting Wuk felt like shit
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>>681468731
It's always been like that. Skills share some identifier in the backend so if you switch classes when some shit is on CD a different skill may be on CD when you change
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>>681468740
what website nigga Ive been here since fucking 2006, why the fuck would I limit my speech to reddits fucking rules you faggot. Why dont YOU go back because you seem so fucking keen on shutting me up using tactics women use to silence opposition.
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>>681468969
his momma loved him so much.
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>>681468853
You're a baka gaijin being asked by chinky Robin Hood, who by the way is perfectly cool with and was very routinely killing corrupt government officials, to kill his student because he cannot keep his fucking dick in his pants and ruined all of the corrupt government official killing they were doing. When his family was, predictably, killed and his teacher exiled because he wouldn't wear a mask to kill corrupt government officials in anonymity, he snapped his fingers and said "those gosh darn bakufu! won't somebody do something about them? how could they be so rude!"

The point of those quests was that Ugetsu is a fucking retard who is causing immensely more harm than he is good in both the short and long term, it was not that you are a filthy outsider overstepping bounds. You went there on Musosai's request, you dope. You didn't understand the quests at all. It's a samurai movie in visual-novel form.
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>>681468857
when you and wuk lamat go looking for the lizard baby after he runs away, you meet a blind viera.
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>>681468989
I guess I never just happened upon it but that's one of the easiest to notice lol
Figured it was something along those lines, but never actually knew it was an occasional thing until now
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>>681468915
I wish I didn't play Dawntrail. Should have bought SMTVV
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it does kinda suck that living memory lost its color. i hope they do something with the zone
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baka ja ja's tragic backstory was embarrassing, this writing is children's holiday special tier
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>>681468853
Sorry have to save that for if the game makes it to 15.0 and they actually include the civilized parts of Othard and not just the fucking Mongolians
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>>681468796
It was just another thing they could throw at you to score a few pity points.
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>>681469054
Anon which one of us is going to that other website, reading entire threads, then coming to this website to post screencaps and links of said discussions.

It sure as hell isn't me mother fucker.
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Speak with Wuk Lamat.
Speak with Wuk Lamat.
Speak with Wuk Lamat.
Speak with Wuk Lamat.
Speak with Wuk Lamat.
Speak with Wuk Lamat.
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>>681468963
It starts again at 96
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>>681468964
It feels like I have been working all day in that hour too, like I am just so bored it makes me feel exhausted.
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>>681468915
Silence, troon!
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>>681469119
>>681468853
>agreed with his own post
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>>681469079
>mfw I banish the evil from Musosai
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Stormblood is still worse
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>>681469205
No.
Stormblood had nuance. Dawntrail has none.
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>>681469205
Stormblood was the best expansion
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>10 more years of this
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>>681469205
No way, I'd play the Stormblood msq 100 times over before I slog through this dogshit again
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>>681468969
Her VA was pretty nice I don't give a fuck
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>>681469205
I definitely think so and it feels like people are only getting mad because DT is the new thing or they've been brainwashed by /pol/ so they think it's worse than SB
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>>681469229
it really did not have nuance
you will never turn stormblood into the new heavensward to glorify
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>>681469205
SB at least set some things up for the future. All er got was the Azem thing and Wuk as future Scion.
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>>681469205
that's like saying DS2 is the worst soulsgame, which is true, but you are comparing it to literal masterpieces
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>>681469113
it's pretty stupid that the place is literally data, like bruh why not download that shit or something? you're telling me the fucking space bunnies and the machine men and garlond works couldn't figure out a way to keep that place running virtually somehow?
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>>681469175
FUCK
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>>681468264
>your nation gets conquered by lizard fucks
>his sister (ruler of her own nation) shows up, kills him, attempts genocide and succeeds on all but a scant few and then installs her nephew (who nobody knew about) as a puppet ruler
its pretty fucking funny to be honest
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>>681469205
You'd be right if we left Wuk at home for the 2nd half but we didn't
Also using mecha-lizard-Kuja as a villain for the majority of the story is a bold move but Kuja is inherently a lame faggot so making such a heavy reference to that on purpose just gets you another lame faggot
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>>681469270
she did a perfect loving mother. One of the things that moved me in this expac.
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>>681469113
I respect it desu when the entire theme is letting go and it's mildly ballsy
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Remember when this game actually let you interact with cute waifus?
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>>681469229
>Stormblood had nuance
elaborate
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>>681469279
>all it got was a literal key to other shards
>and that other worlds have all be connected by the fusion
>and that there is another nation that considers the WoL an ally
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>>681469205
You are immediately wrong because Stormblood had murderhobo Zenos.
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>>681469275
Compared to DT? SB is dripping with fucking nuance. DT's 'nuance' is whether Wuk Lamat is the best or the BESTEST.
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>>681469205
nope
DT is ARR tier
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the number of times a character is hiding behind a tree and overhears the boring exposition speech a character gives is ridiculous. this story is written like a cartoon for 6 year olds
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>>681469205
Stormblood is a masterpiece now that Wuktrail exists.
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>>681469351
i'm sure it's very nuanceful
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>>681469205
No, it's really not. Stormblood has the attack on Rhalgr's Reach and gets somewhat decent from there, peaking at the fucking Nadaam and Assault on the castle.
Then we go back to fucking ala mhigger land and deal with boring shit until the last dungeon.
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>>681469313
>if we left Wuk at home for the 2nd half
Her story was fucking over, there was no reason not to.
I guess her brother but fuck man.
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>>681469343
I miss him so much bros, he wouldn't have tolerated this nonsense
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>>681469252
Grim.
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>>681469313
>You'd be right if we left Wuk at home for the 2nd half but we didn't
we had to deal with BOTH Lyse and Hien for SB, Wuk was acceptable except for the final boss, where you can tell they did it because they want to repeat the Endsinger phase transition.
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>>681469186
Based Alpaca.
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>>681469113
I honestly prefer it as it is now.
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Did they add combat grunts at some point because I swear I don't remember my voice 2 middie from ARR/HW days screaming this EYYYyyYYYY like they're ripping off a bandaid all the time
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>>681469407
There's like 10+ cutscenes were we WoL should've knocked Zoraal into orbit but couldn't because Wuk Lamaat was too busy failing to persuade is autistic ass
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>>681469407
Holy shit you retards. Sphene and Wuk Lamat are supposed to be mirrors. that is why they have so much shit together. You can not like Wuk Lamat sure, but to say she had no place is fucking retarded.
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>>681466407
This irked me too, like he was right there man, im faster than him.
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>played Friday and Saturday but was on the verge of falling asleep so I hadn't played since
>get to the part today where Wuk gets kidnapped and despite having to do two trailing sequences back to back I had more fun and was more interested when she wasn't actively involved in the scenes
Please tell me Koana gets more screentime with us later in the MSQ, I'm more interested in learning about him than Wuk at the moment.
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>>681469483
>Sphene and Wuk Lamat are supposed to be mirrors.
Ok this is obvious, but Wuk still sucks.
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>>681466454
It’s aoe damage still isn’t amazing, yes you get a nonstandard rotation here but it’s underwhelming
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>>681469407
wuk is a self insert oc that the writers use to troll players, by making her the centerpiece and then having every scion, npc and the wol has to shower with affirmations
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>>681469483
Taking just the last two zones and removing Wuk entirely is a better story than her being there.
Don't get me started on the patch filler tier trials
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>>681469483
Foiling your dogshit main character to an antagonist not introduced until 70% of the way through the storyline when you have been attached at the hip to them the entire time was a huge mistake and makes both characters even more boring.
There's a reason Ishikawa, Maehiro, and Oda ALL foiled the WoL against the antagonist; because that way you could develop a connection to both your character and the plot.
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anyone know what this says on her back?
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>WoL sees a child suffering what's essentially the lightning version of the light sickness from the First.
>WoL doesn't say anything about how they have a cure for it.
...Based?
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>>681469483
wuk lamat is currently cursed with people that swear up and down until breathless that they've given the character a fair chance and then the moment it comes time to analyze any of the expac's themes, dialogue and character goals they aren't able to name anything or elaborate on and interact with the story at a deeper level and instead rant about hating her

this will not change for a while, yet, which is especially embarrassing because (or perhaps in spite of it) this is not a complex story
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>>681469559
says property of wol, cocksleeve
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>>681469559
The writing all over her dress says
>ETERNAL SERVANT
>MANY SOULS ONE HEART
>ALEXANDRIA
I forget which words are where but a few get repeated
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>>681467978
>save the game
why are msq only faggots so fucking retarded
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>>681469332
I shed a tear when she left
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>>681469351
i'm certain you can show an example of nuance in SB
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>>681469559
someone posted it a couple threads ago I think it was
something something
our hearts
eternal service
Alexandria
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>>681469569
Did they honestly just forget that they'd fixed the issue of aetheric imbalance? This was incredibly stupid
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>>681469559
"Armpit Queen"
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>>681469513
The best scene in the game is around level 94 involves him, urianger, and thancred.
He has some serious character development and it's very nice.
Mind you, this is RIGHT AFTER a scene where Wuk Wuk Binks turns into yoda and suddenly solos a boss who was able to damage her axe with one hand 3 levels prior.
fucking disgusting.
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>>681468115
>bro how does setting up shard hopping set up a new adventure
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>>681469602
did you just blow in from stupid town?
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>>681469602
I understand the themes and the contrast, that's clear to me and you would be a fool to consider it some saving grace for her.
The problem is that I've already had 5 fucking levels to let my disdain for the character build and broil and it only gets worse at 97+.

You are not as smart as you think you are.
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>>681469201
SAM and DRK stories were such kino
It sucks that now the devs are wholly set on being lazy fucks who never bother analyzing what makes each class unique and are just making samey "class role" quests, although it still amuses me because it goes hand in hand with their attempt at homogenizing everything
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>>681469602
Not liking your OC, Sorry bud.
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>>681469602
>themes
Understanding and Letting go are not serious themes. We covered them in ARR and Shadowbringers.
>Character goals
Becoming Hokage and protecting peace are the character goals of the main character of a Shonen Jump manga.
>Dialogue
None of Wuk Lamat's dialogue is even remotely interesting or engaging. She explicitly restates the 'themes' of the expansion every two seconds ad nauseum from minute 1 until you are 35 hours in.
Stop defending garbage. The game has had bad expansion MSQs before.
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>>681469205
not even close.
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any robofuckers here? how does this rate?
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>>681469682
Could we have done it in a less retarded way
Every time they flashbacked to Galool Ja Ja's party I wished we were with them instead of the one in the present
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>>681469559
"property of ala mhigo"
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>>681469205
The existence of Gosetsu and the countless gallons of cum I've spilled to Lyse and Yotsuyu prove that you are wrong.
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>>681469721
You lack media literacy. Please do not comment on themes.
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>>681469569
I don't get what's the point of that scene, I actually don't have a problem with the majority of the story because I can tell what themes they're trying to do, but bringing up something we've fixed in two worlds and not follow up was questionable.
>>681469602
I actually don't like how hamfisted the story is, with how everyone has parental issues, but I have never seen anyone complain about that, so I really don't understand how they read.
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>>681469569
I forgot about it so maybe the writers did idk
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>>681469771
Gasmask is a little weird but would
I also wanna turn Sphene's asshole inside out I don't care if she's a hologram over a tin can
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>Wuk Lamat is incapable and is a scaredy cat!
>solos all these enemies and bosses, stops heaps of attacks

Which is it
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>>681468964

I feel part of it is that there's a lot of info dump on the new cultures and people being done to you so you get burned out trying to parse it all. And none of it was really super interesting I feel. You kinda get what you expect from them. I never felt surprised or really intrigued on what was going on with them.
There was cool parts in DT's MSQ but I'm not as invested as I was in ShB or EW.
I still think the Amuarot reveal was probably one of the best story reveals. You come in expecting Ascians's secret base to be some fucked up evil cult cave or science lab but it turns out to be a beautiful art deco themed city with soft piano music playing. The way it was done helped change your view on them really hard.
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I hate how they just start throwing ff9 music at you like please like our xpack, it has music from that game you like, see this is a good xpack, see! Oh they name dropped places from that game, please like this xpack, we promise it's good we will even reference other stuff you like.
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>>681469771
I'm not even a robofucker and I would
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>>681469602
>expac's themes
The expansions themes were sesame street tier garbage. Go fuck yourself, you already sniff your own farts faggot.
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>>681469771
Too human/gynoid for the true robot fuckers, but good enough for me and probably good enough for the robot fucker artists I follow.
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>>681469696
Literally every reply to >>681469483 is I HATE WUK LAMAT in some variation. Hell, two replies now to >>681469602 are I HATE WUK LAMAT and >>681469753 in particular is an incredibly embarrassing, surface-level read of the character that also doesn't go into any depth at all and makes comparisons to previous expansions to avoid having to engage with current material. I agree that Wuk Lamat is going to be plagued with dumbasses giving oddly milquetoast opinions dressed up as analyses in the future.
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>>681469781
>Could we have done it in a less retarded way
yes but that wasn't what the original post was asking
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>>681469602
>>681469483
It'll just take more people finishing the MSQ and the explanations to sink in then people will get it.

>>681469721
>you are not as smart as you think you are
I hate nothing more than midwits like you who don't realise they're the retard in the room. Seething at a character for 5 levels is not intelligent lmfao.

>>681469843
The point is to show that Sphene is a caring ruler who understands the plight of her people and is an active part of their lives.
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>>681469771
more robotty robots remain superior but it's fine
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>>681469917
but enough about endwalker
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>>681469864
do people not pay attention anymore? she's pretending to be brave
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>>681468398
Boy I sure love my memories being used to create a zombie version of myself that lives at Epcot for all eternity while only being "alive" by being fed human souls that should instead return to the lifestream and be allowed rest and to be reborn.
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>>681469917
you're very lucky, anon, if you were capable of reading on a sesame street level, you'd have READ (R... E... A... D!) that i agree with you the story's themes are not complicated
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>>681469569
WoL was to busy looking at Sphene's sphenes to give a shit about some kid
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>>681469872
>spoiler
Yeah, they really tried to make you understand Emet, not by having him explicitly telling you things, but by figuring it out bit by bit. Hell, him helping you return Y'shtola from the life stream was also a huge boon towards him.

Meanwhile in DT we got... Sphene's only merit is that of being a reasonably attractive female.
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>>681469925
why waste words on a self insert fanfic tier oc?
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>>681469925
>Depth
The character lacks depth. She only has surface-level traits. If you disagree, please name a single trait the character has that is not surface-level.
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>>681469823
>>681469934
I hope for your sake that this is bait. The character herself sucks.

If it's not bait, you're trannies dying on a pike because of the voice actor for some political culture war bullshit nonsense.
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i think we should all play world of warcraft instead
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>everybody making >:( faces about finding out someone it makes total sense is a robot is a robot from a robot dude they are totally cool with
What the fuck
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>>681470036
why be in the thread at all if you're going to ignore it
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>>681470048
>please present me a detailed argument so i can discard it and fart at you
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>>681469602
I bet you thought DMC reboot was deep and people just disliked it because they didnt get it
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>>681470103
That is what all the DT defenders do to people who dislike the expansion, yes.
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>>681470028
Muktrail is a cheap fake of better xpacks.
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>>681470028
Sphene's motive is understandable from a "computer gone nuts" standpoint (yeah yeah she's uploaded from a soul or whatever same shit) but they either needed to give us more time to hang out with her earlier on or change the focus of the expansion entirely for it to hit home cause she doesn't even exist until the last 6 hours of the game.
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>>681470118
nope
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>>681470028
what really annoyed me is they tried to connect the two leaders as understading each other through leadership. Bitch, wuk lamat hasn't been on the throne more than a fucking day
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>>681470054
Wow you really showed me by being unable to read my post and instead just replying to the voices in your head. Definitely not a fucking retard, nope.
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so meta thread question. have the trancers turned into sphene apologists too?
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>>681469934
>The point is to show that Sphene is a caring ruler who understands the plight of her people and is an active part of their lives.
I mean yes I like the part where the blind Viera says Sphere's perfectly okay with them living outside the Everkeep but I just don't know why they had to choose to bring up aetheric corruption again.
>>681470054
>you're trannies dying on a pike because of the voice actor for some political culture war bullshit nonsense
I unironically would not know who voices her in English if it weren't you people being obsessed.
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>>681470182
He'll only understand I HATE WUK LAMAT so there is literally no point
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>>681470183
I havent seen trancers in a year or so and nobody is defending her
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>>681470183
I imagine trancers are just lost among the tranny haters
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>>681470190
>obsessed
Oh fuck off, this isn't even about the voice actor, the character is shit.
I knew I sniffed you out the moment you jumped on the pike, literally no one cares and it only makes you and yours look bad to act like this.
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>>681470182
>>681470221
Incredible retorts and incredible examples of why she's such an amazing character.
Go on.
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>>681470190
The character doesn't improve regardless of the voice actor.
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>>681470180
okok this was never the case, they connected through their love of their people which wuk definitely had, that was her defining trait, we need to shit on the expansion objectively instead of making stuff up.
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>>681470331
You should have a chat with this guy >>681470279 bitching about "jumping on the pike" for not transforming into a rabid chimp flinging his own shit at a picture of a lion
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>>681470365
You're not even arguing within the constraints of the character or her flaws or her relation to the story.
You're immediately deflecting to trans bullshit, it's not relevant at all. TALK ABOUT THE CHARACTER.
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>>681470364
to be fair to that guy, Wuk herself admits she was sheltered, I guess you just can't really represent the scale of the election accurately, it probably took days for the party to do anything while the other candidates just did their own thing like Koana solving everything with facts and logic.
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>>681470190
Why they'd bring that up specifically is just worldbuilding, the reflection they're from had a growing problem from what seems like pseudo-tempering due to the growing ambient lightning aether which tracks and is a parallel to the kind of thing that we saw with Halric. When we're already going around with her for character building of a major NPC I think it's the right call to add in information that's just interesting and can be picked up again later.

>>681470331
I don't need to give an example because I never said she was an amazing character you absolute downie. You literally invented that. The guy who thinks he's smart, lol. I'm not going to get into a discussion with someone who can't read my posts I'll just laugh at you instead.
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>>681470056
i'd rather eat another wuklamat expansion than playing worlo again
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Did they severely cut content to get this game out? What was the point of showing us levin sickness? How is it the queen's fault? Why are there homeless people in the dome? If most endless are turned off, how are the endless such a huge drag on power, when solution 9 exists that probably draws way more power?
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me debate good
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another good thing. my 100 trial party, everyone was dressed like adventurers and stuff. no sluts or memes in sight
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>>681470364
How does she love her people if she never left her palace until the trials to become king?
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>>681470546
i assume the homeless guys are the people that weren't allowed to fight so they couldn't work like that one guy that didn't have any credits
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>>681470597
the same way white people say they love the starving kids in africa
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>>681470573
Yeah that only happens on like day 2 or 3 even at day 4 it's a stretch so I'm worried
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>>681470573

>tfw doing Endsinger at EW launch and seeing everyone in their job class gear

Too bad new players won't be able to see that. Did they ever buff up Endsinger so her second phase lasts a bit longer? I remember them mentioning something like that during a live letter.
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>>681470573
Yeah generally one of the benefits of finishing early.
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>>681470546
Towards the end I felt more like there were some heavy rewrites involved
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>>681470546
The first half of the game with the rite was boring as fuck, but god the second half was just incredibly retarded.
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>>681470648
the blind lady made it sound like they were homeless by choice
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Wuk being trash aside the theme and extra levels of "woke" trash being more inserted in this expansion is really bringing down an already subpar story line for this expansion, would have been so much better if they did more of visiting other shards etc.
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>>681470597
cause she looked up to her father and what he stood for, which is why we leash her around to learn about everyones culture and stuff. it's not good but thats what's being presented.
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>>681469134
>no cyberbunny gf
PAIN
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>>681470520
You don't have an argument then, embarrassing.
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>>681470671
endsinger is fixed. its capped at 560 iirc which is the artifact gear you get. fight lasts 12 minutes now
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>>681470546
>how are the endless such a huge drag on power, when solution 9 exists that probably draws way more power?
they're literally reconstructed life that depends on other life to exist instead of just plain energy
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>>681470702
you get 1 chapter and it's not even a full chapter where wuk isn't clinging to you and the very next scene the bitch is back
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>>681470793
they are data though, they exist in the archive, you could literally download them if you had say an earring that was a DATA STICK
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>>681470758
you have to give one to get one
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What bugs me the most is
>Find the magic golden gate
>Don't even spend a minute investigating it before fucking off to do other things
If Alexandria attacked right then sure I would understand the distraction but what the hell man
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>>681470546
>What was the point of showing us levin sickness?
Talk to Wuk Lamat
>How is it the queen's fault?
Ask Wuk Lamat
>Why are there homeless people in the dome?
Praise Wuk Lamat
>If most endless are turned off, how are the endless such a huge drag on power, when solution 9 exists that probably draws way more power?
Kneel to Wuk Lamat
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>>681470889
>storage space is now power consumption

these are the guys driving up computer prices. lol
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>>681470952
well the guy who told you to find it said it can't be opened. and your buddy just became queen
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>>681470982
The place was constantly using up souls to maintain the people.
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This Serious Discussion about Wuk Lamat ended up pretty much how it was called: pointless butthurt and open inability to explain your own thoughts. Good night everybody.
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>>681470889
Gen Z writers have little understanding of how computers work.
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>>681470952
the king himself showed up and told wuk lamat and he'll tell her later didn't he?
bugs me that when they finally get to it the explanation was offscreened to the others though, it's usually the kind of scene that they'd force the WoL to attend.
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>>681470573
I expect to see nothing but slutglams and beach attire a week from today
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>>681470982
>you are so dumb, for real
when the endless are ACTIVE they are consuming energy, otherwise they can be stored away. The reason the last zone was so empty was they were on a power save setting (fountains shows were turned off), it's not like data needs to breathe
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>>681470573
glamour plates have existed for a while now and you get the set while you're in a city so I think you just got lucky
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I like that Green'raha gets more nuanced characterisation and development in a single campfire cutscene with Thancred and Urianger then Lamat does over the course of every single fucking quest in the MSQ because she is never given any fucking space to breathe
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>>681471173
If that was the case, Sphene could've put all other endless into sleep mode where they would not experience the passage of time and work on a peaceful resolution to the energy crisis. Don't be stupid. Servers constantly maintaining data need to be powered to maintain said data
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>>681471173
and what the fuck is the point of the data otherwise? They're literally there to have an afterlife, even if it can't be all of them at once.
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>>681471085

>tfw didn't really mind her that much and was fine with the WoL acting as a mentor figure

I mainly wish the WoL had more independence and did more shit of their own choice in the story. If anything they should have leaned into the mentor relationship more and had the WoL setup shit for Wuk or try to teach them shit about their own experiences on what they've seen. I dunno.
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>>681471085
What's more embarrassing is the complete lack of self awareness
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>>681471395
at first I actually thought Koana would win somehow and Wuk Lamat would be an adventurer they bring back in future patches
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>>681471386
>afterlife
to the Alexandrians apparently they're still alive in that state
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What the fuck do you think I've been doing until now
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>>681471510
its better when after you finish the cutscenes
the next npc you talk to, who right infront of you, gives another cutscene
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>>681471507
I suppose, the place is really heaven themed that the words just slipped out of me
Really, the whole setup reminds me of all the Garlean soul fuckery they've been doing for several expansions, like the Weapons storyline or the one boss in Ala Mhigo
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>>681468796
This guy looks like a JoJo Part 5 character
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i hope whatever writer/consulting companies involved get canned so they don't taint fantasy australia when we visit
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>>681471507
I don't think the Alexandrians consider being in storage the same as being Endless otherwise there would be no need to consume souls, but they seem to recognize that if you're stored you have the capacity to become Endless again and were chill about that.
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>>681471748
Hope you're ready for the enlightened diverse culture of the abbos
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>>681471628
you deserve it
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>>681471689
Disneyland is heaven to you?
Its a direct reference to Emet in ShB except we're Emet this time
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>>681471779
Aren't the Mercydian abos tree people?
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>>681471779
Ah yes the glorious aboriginal traditions of sniffing petrol, raping your nieces and daughters and sleeping in the middle of the road to get hit by a truck
I fucking hate them so much
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>>681471803
I can't explain where I got the idea from but it seems to be that "heaven=gold" is common in fiction, they spent a bit going on how it's "in the clouds" too, literally and figurately
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>>681471748
It'll be Hildibrand safari while chasing tales of the lost vegemite or DT 2.0
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>>681471628
same, but i also haven't logged in since last month
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These are not choices
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Is every shard doomed to destroy themselves even without Ascian involvement?
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>>681471748
>Fantasy Australia
What version? Croc Dundee or Abbo central?
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I got what I wished for pre-DT
Wuk won, so she'll be in Tural jail forever and never show up after 7.0 like Lyse and not join the scions.
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>>681471939
I mean heaven = gold because the catholic church exists
>give us all your money and you'll go to paradise
>hey look at how much opulent shit we have peasant that means we must be legit right
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>>681471939
Even the "pearly gates" are often eepicted as being gold
A lot of the art in the vatican and churches in general really loved gold leaf too
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>>681472015
Who said Ascians weren't involved but also that was the entire point of The Dead Ends
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>>681472014
you WILL suck the barbed cock, bigot
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Finally, also lmao
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>>681472015
Well in the extreme long term we're all fucked IRL too but it'll be more boring than an endless maelstrom
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did XIV get SBI'd?
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>>681472015
>>681472071
There's literally no way that the ascians didn't get the ball rolling on alexandria's shard
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>>681472071
I assume he meant that the Ascians have been gone for an unknown amount of time when accounting for shard time fuckery so they should've recovered on their own even if it's probably not possible if they're as fucked as the First and that was also after a lot of positive intervention.
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>>681472134
essentially yes, either because SBI lists SE as someone they work with or internally because the danger hair was made lore consultant
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The story is poorly paced and feels like two different expansions poured into one. The entire expansion could have been a really in-depth tournament arc with struggles, betrayal, and genuine growth for Wuk Lamat.

The second half could have been an epic like Shadowbringers with Sphene paralleling Emet.

They failed on both fronts. Though I have to say that the Lv. 99 trial is the best trial I've experienced in the entire game. They nailed Zarool Ja's menacing atmosphere and made him an absolute sociopath lunatic.

And the gameplay is the best its ever been. It's finally no longer a snoozefest.

Overall I have positive feelings about this expansion, especially because we're getting a new Field Operations zone with this level of gameplay design. Can't wait.
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>>681471954
After this MSQ I'd much rather have an entire MSQ dedicated to dumb Hildi shit than another attempt at writing an actual story



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