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how wuk are wuk we wuk enjoying wuk?
it is her story. no other character is relevant ever.
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the Jar Jar Binks of Final Fantasy
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>>681542475
MESA WUKAGE BINKS
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Fuck Wuk Lamat
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There was no way to up or even match the stakes of the previous xpac, they blowed their load too early with that one, the endsinger was THE final boss of XIV, that said, they could have made this xpac about some fun low stakes adventure with friends instead of centering it around some dogshit furry
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>>681542948
That's literally all anyone was asking for. The exact content could have been done, but without wuk and it would have been far better.
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Does Kirle fight? Is she a trust partner yet?
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>spamming/flooding
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oh my god they said "hear, feel, think" again!!!!!!!!
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>>681542427
I wuk it
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How could this happen?
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Its funny to me that Wuk doesn't even have character arc despite being the focus for 80% of the cutscenes
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I LOVE MABLUUUUUUU
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>>681542427
TWD
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>turning off terminals is supposed to be sad
>but I've been in this area for 5 minutes beelining from cutscene to cutscene because you didn't remember to leave any exploring in the game
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WoWchads won...
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>>681542427
People are really too dumb to understand a mentorship story?
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>>681543339
She does it's just weak. (le incompetent compared to her brothers -> I actually only care about my father's peace! stuff)
But her character isn't really the major issue with the expansion (unless you're retarded enough to play EN-dubbed), it's how they've written every interaction to be about her or in interaction with her. (along with other unrelated writing issues like the pacing of zones and build-up)
So even if it's you the WoL driving things 90% of MSQ NPCs will still only talk through Wuk. Even when she isn't present. The major exceptions to this are Sphene and the Scions.
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>>681543508
And mind you I was thinking "eh there's NG+ now anyways" and then remembered you have to go through 40 hours of Wuk Lamat to get back to this part.
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>>681543504
I'm going to chase you down, drag you out of your lala burrow with a crook, and shave your side hair things.
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The amount of effort that goes into updating random NPC dialogue in assfuck towns about the current state of the main questline is admirable and I love how absolutely no one will ever see it.

>Different dialogue pre-dawnservant
>Dawnservant but before attack
>Dawnservant but after attack
>Post dragon-help
Etc etc, I'm talking tens of NPCs with updating dialogue.

It's both incredibly soulful and very weird because who the fuck is going to take a break from the main quest just to check every NPC for no reason except to see some new text? There's no reward for this, and some world-state differences are like two main quests apart (dawnservant pre and post attack for example).
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The last trial is so much fun and the music and visuals are so good. The second phase and Wuk Lamat just ruin it though. Man, what a waste.
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>>681543650
>She does it's just weak. (le incompetent compared to her brothers -> I actually only care about my father's peace! stuff)
thats more like a switch is flipped and her ilv is made higher than her brothers. Her mindset, manorisms and outlook stay exactly the same from the moment you meet her. Nothing challenges her ideals, nothing changes her outlook, she just sorta retards her way into power.
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>>681542575
I wonder what kind of ugly troon made this image
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Why is there a texture seam in the water lmao
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>>681542427
Wuk? Oh you mean
POWERWORD: BRANDON
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>>681543057
Ots not just wuk, the scions brush off things they shouldnt (people using souls as fuel/currency), the whole deal with krile being swept under the rug, and a bunch of other stuff.
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>>681543781
it's crazy in general how many people ignore named npcs
fuck, most people don't even talk to the scions if they don't have quest markers above their heads
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>>681543752
Be gentle, please
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>scions don't even bantz each other despite being heckin' "at odds" with your group
>hag cat doesn't even sass anyone
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Also Y'shtola sounds like she recorded her lines from a toilet, what the FUCK is this shit
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>>681543948
ill seam your textures, rabbit slut
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>>681543781
It's good that they're still doing that. Shame I still don't care about Tural's citizens enough to talk to them. Maybe it'll be different after i've done some sidequests.
For all the talk of tribal diversity they have got to be the most boring least culturally unique area out of all just from the MSQ perspective.
>we have food! clothing!
Meanwhile you walk around Uldah, Limsa, Ishgard, the Azim Steppe, Radz and even Alexandria in this very expansion and they all show just how different they are.
It's like the devs wanted to showcase just how shit diversity and multiculturalism really is.
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>>681543803
That's purposeful since she is supposed to be a contrast of Gulool Ja Ja's heart and power (which she grows into), where Zolaal Ja is a contrast of Gulool Ja Ja's power and intellect but not his heart, and Koana is a contrast of Gulool Ja Ja's intellect but not his tact (which he grows into) or power.
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>>681544210
>didn't even get to throw down with Thancred
FUCK
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>>681544210
>scions are "at odds"
>except they work together the entire expansion
>and you never fight them
>and you're forced onto one side
>and the scions on the other side as well as their leader just immediately concede
>and the one scion we were promised to have a larger role got sidelined save for 2 cutscenes


More Yoship lies.
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>>681543948
Is that run-off from Azys Lla? I wouldn't want to walk in that, your toes might turn into Lalafells or something.
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>>681544362
She does not grow into anything.
She is the exact same character as you meet her as she is when she becomes Wukage.
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>get told how fun ziplines are
>can't actually ride them, just get teleported by an NPC
What is with this spaghetti ass game
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>>681544456
>She does not grow into anything.
Then there's nothing to say to you because you won't engage with the story at all but you will take pot-shots at it.
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Apologize
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>>681544210
The entire script is incredibly boring, like an AI wrote it.
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>>681544362
>which she grows into
?????????????? when did wuk ever change or was at odds with gulool?
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Every character in this image can be safely removed from the story without consequences. That includes (You).
What did they mean by this?
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>>681544529
Crazy how this shit it's so bad it's making Lyse and SB look good.
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>>681544573
>reading comprehension
She has Gulool Ja Ja's compassion but it's untempered by her never really leaving the capital except for festivals, and she doesn't have his strength.
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>>681543832
Probably the VA
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>>681544523
>I LOVE EVERYONE AND I WANT TO LEARN ABOUT U
>*learns about them*
>I LOVE EVERYONE AND I WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT U
>*repeat 7+ times*

I'd prefer the story engage with me at this point they wrote this one scene and repeated it like 2000000 times
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>>681544346
Pretty much all of their actual interesting shit and nuance is hidden behind sidequests.
>Pelu slavery, giant genocide
>Cenotaph gravesites, deep-cave monsters.
>Artist kidnapping/banditry

I mean, they're not all interesting (I don't give a FUCK about the Ok-zundu wundu wambo wumbu birds no matter how much you push them Yoshi fuck em since HW) but most of them are actually way more than just the trite MQ "Dude TACOS".

It's a fucking crime how the actual setting is shafted too by the Wuk retardation.
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>>681542595
TACO
FAMILY
PEACE
SEASICK
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>>681544529
I always loved you 5ever Lyse.
Now put the mask and turban back on.
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>>681544670
Dawntrail is the "tell dont show" expansion
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>>681544643
>and she doesn't have his strength.
But she does, do you remember the solo duty? Did you even play the game?
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>>681544529
No, just because DT is worse doesn't mean SB wasn't bad
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>>681544529
If I were enough of a drone that /v/ could change my opinion on something, I'd probably be swallowed up into an IRL cult instead of falling in with a bunch of dumb shitposters and MMO turds.
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>>681542427
Because case scenario is that the reception from Japan actually gets to them and they set her up to die in post-DT while her brother takes over. Maybe if that happened YoshiP would demote Kate and her ilk so we could finally get some proper waifus for a change.
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>>681544595
Reminder that the scions art for Dawntrail has half the cast doing extremely unnatural anti-male megalia symbols with their fingers.
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>>681544807
She gets that later.
>reading comprehension
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>>681544595
Our story is over. Time to let underrepresented, marginalized, and oppressed voices have a turn. Sit down and listen.
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>>681544595
>Tataru wasn't even in dawntrail
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>>681542427
If you don't like Wuktrail, you are a transphobe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsmf4oMHoEI
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>>681544780
Fuck man, I just did a sidequest where one of the Mamool ja fathers is desperately trying to go to the graveyard after the abolishment of the "blessed siblings" tradition because he's hallucinating his dead babies begging for him to help them, and you snap him out of it by telling him to "seek the sun", as that's the phrase the Mamool ja have for 'have some hope in your life' because hope for them is the sun above the forest canopy that they're desperately trying to get to.

This is INFINITELY more engaging than anything Wuk has ever done and it took me two minutes.
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I enjoyed DT. People crying are tranny obsessed retards who literally can't get through a day without thinking about trannies.
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>>681544869
>half the cast
It's literally just Wuk?

...oh
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>>681544595
It's a filler expansion
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>Fantasy game
>just crowbar in modern Tokyo and call it a day
Retarded. Go fuck yourself Hiroi.
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did we not get ANY new emotes in the msq?
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Why the fuck do the Endless suddenly switch from being fully aware of their situation to larping the past
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>>681544903
>If I keep screaming these words he'll agree with me
Nah. You're an idiot.
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>>681545120
>tfw no ohokaliy
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>>681543648
This should have been more of a focus but since WoL needs to be any job then I guess they figured it'd be weird for her to be trained by a healer WoL. Or I guess anyway. Really felt like she needed a training arc to beat Bakool rather than doing so because she just could.
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>>681545026
Yes, and?
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>>681544346
I wish we had more colonization in Wuktrail.
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>>681543781
I like to check with the granny at the Steepe once in a while
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>>681544210
Alphinaud doesn't give a speech about hope, Alisaie isnt thirsting for WoL snatch/cock, Uriangier doesn't betray you,
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>>681542948
>10 years
>blew their load too early
why not just accept that every story ends eventually and step away from the game
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>>681545078
Ketchup.
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>>681545051
A story with Bakool Ja Ja as the villian turned sympathetic ally revealing the origin of Blessed Siblings turning to a civil war about the practice would have been more engaging than the Wukadventure of Wuk Lamat staring Wuk Lamat.

That shit was legitimately interesting and fucked up, and its the shit I like XIV for and want more of it.
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>>681545148
Holy shit the average IQ of this thread is amazing.
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>>681545148
it's a literal theme park
and Otis is just really hype about being a knight, okay?
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>>681545216
You need to turn on EN voices, or you are a tranny hater.
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>>681545290
That stove texture
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i won
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>>681545301
>NOOOOOOO STOP CRITICIZING DAWNTRAIL I INVESTED MY ENTIRE LIFE INTO XIV YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO NOT LIKE THE MSQ
Cope and seethe, faggot. I'm gonna talk shit all I fucking want.
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>>681544993
She'll be in the post MSQ storyline where she realizes how much more marketable Wuk is compared to the WoL and you have to go across all the previous expansions' areas to hawk Wuk Lamat t-shirts.
Including the Coid in a non-interactive cutscene where you praise her to Golbez and Zero.
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>>681545308
>>681545148
Are you people retarded
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>>681544606
SB was always good
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Half of these cutscenes I could only think about how easy Zenos could mop the floor with these clowns.
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>>681542427
Yeah I didn't care for her domination of the story. I could have used a bit less of her in the second half.
O well, hope the patches are better.
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>>681545148
it's called emotional manipulation anon, the writer thought they were a clever faggot by trying to get people invested in these dead people that have been reduced to data
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>>681544373
I remember the very first pitch for the expansion was "a new adventure that will see the Scions divided".

My fucking ass dude, even within the context of taking advantage of the race to just have a friendly competition for fun it was disappointing. I can't believe Urianger just going "Ho, this might be exciting" is basically where it starts and ends.
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>>681545449
OTIS WAS LITERALLY THE FIRST ONE TO GET THE THING
HIS MEMORIES AND EXISTANCE IN THE SYSTEM WAS BEFORE IT WAS A THING
WHY WOULD HE ACT LIKE THE OTHER ENDLESS
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>>681545194
"Screaming", lol.
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>>681545456
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>>681545390
This is a new zone, right? Wasn't the entire point the graphical update?
Why dioes it look like the textures in an early expansion prop?
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>>681545203
Beast tribe reward
>>681545026
JP seems to hate it and they don't even have this to fall back on.
Also I hate all the woketards using transgenderism to defend this shit character.
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>>681545291
gee i wonder what part of dawntrail it was made your butthole swell up the most
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>>681545551
Except he's not the first one bitch
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>>681544529
No, if only because I'm convinced a big part of why she got so much hate is just her being attractive. I've noticed near every attractive adult female who isn't a lala gets a lot of hate in this game, though some more than others.
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>>681545401
thumbnail looks like you have a boner
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>>681544595
>The whole expansion could genuinely just have been a "Meanwhile, in Tural..." cutscene
>Except we had to see it in person for some fucking reason.
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>>681545590
They improved the two things people will look the most at - the characters and the lighting. Nobody cares about random can on a random stove.
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>>681545612
>Also I hate all the woketards using transgenderism
You're getting trolled by native /v/irgins.
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melty da
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>>681545078
I enjoyed it as well anon, but honestly some of the points people have made about the story's flaws just made me really think about the overall quality of it. Still though, hopefully post patches are better overall, like Stormblood's were, I know the content is gonna be pretty fun as well, specially with frens.
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>>681545453
*Void.

Sorry, playing Wuktrail had me chew my fingers off in frystation so it's hard to ty;e
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>>681544869
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>>681545530
It was more like "Thancred and Urianger specifically will work for another person for like 15 minutes but still basically be your allies"
I'm now on the "kill the scions" side now.
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>>681545085
Nah pic related.
If you've seen megalia symbols you'd notice they often do this arched hand shit even when it doesn't make much sense.
Probably some shit freelance korean artist sabotaging JP productions.
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>>681545661
my femhroths doesn't have a boner because women don't have cocks
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>>681545758
Some of the points people made about this game made me wonder if they were subject to a fucking lobotomy.
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>>681545649
I played through SB recently, I don't think she's bad, she just doesn't do like, a ton regarding bringing freedom to Ala Mhigo.
If anything SB felt like It was ablut saving Doma and Ala Mhigo was kinda just there too, most of the interesting stuff in the MSQ happens in Doma, it has the entire underwater thing and the Steppe, you learn about their culture and meet the people, while you get to Ala Mhigo, fuck off for a while, and then return to finish the job
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>>681545649
None of the attractive women in this game have interesting stories, except Venat.
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>>681545805
It’s namae does she hate men or something? Weird.
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>get to final zone
>it's just a gayer and lamer Penacony
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>>681545805
Alphinaud's lowered hand is just in a relaxed position, you're stretching it there.
And Y'shtola is LITERALLY just holding her staff, the fuck are you doing.
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>>681544652
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>>681545805
>korean is back
yucky people
knockoff japanese
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woah.....The Golden City....
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>>681545919
>that eggless womb
>attractive
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>>681545965
Anon you have to understand that people here are just as stupid, if not more, than the twitter guys they seem to hate that much
We're just used to this brand of idiocy
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>>681545805
You need meds and qualified assistance
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>>681545078
Ironic post
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wuk honestly makes me so sad please recast this fucking travesty it's honestly bad and not in an endearing way. This sounds like esteban winsmore levels of voice acting.
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They literally told us this was a vacation expansion
They told us multiple times

Why are you surprised about it being nothing but filler???
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>>681546043
Taking a break from 4chan for a week or two and coming back to it is a great way to get a reality check on how this website really behaves.
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>>681545965
If it was one or two that's believable but in the context of the picture lolno.
Alphinaud and Wuk are both odd as fuck.
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>>681546129
How many times are you going to make this pathetic cope post
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>>681545913
Stormblood had a lot more solo duties where you're doing stuff too. Especially the last part was a gauntlet of them leading up to the last dungeon.
That said, the two Gulool Ja fights were cool, full mechanics and everything. I guess it's a give/take when it came to them.
But I feel like one of those "multiple cutscenes in progress" could've been something you play in.
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UHHH BROS?
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>>681545919
>attractive women
>Venat
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>>681546129
Do your vacations consist of standing around listening to some retard nepo authority figure spout empty platitudes all day because that sounds like work
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>>681545913
I never really thought Lyse was bad in SB during the "gotta get allies" part as the fact she's dumb and naive was tempered by the people around her telling her she's too dumb and naive regarding getting people to stand with the liberation army.
The part where Conrad names her as the new leader was when it started getting dumb as she's not leader material and never really becomes it even by the end of SB.

Wuk on the other hand just has everybody be her cheerleader and she steals credit for things the WoL does.
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>>681546129
So which part of it was a vacation exactly?
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>>681546129
They also said that this was the meatiest expansion ever anon
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>>681546043
>>681546182
Go back to Twitter
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>>681544869
I just noticed Alisaie has been sitting down for all three expansion group artworks.

Stand up you lazy bitch.
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>>681546285
>he never went on a vacation with his parents
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>>681546227
there was a time where statistics wouldn't be taken seriously until the methodology behind them was clear
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>>681546227
>study by the ADL
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>>681544210
>The only thing that happened was Thancred Double Downing a boulder on your path in Zormor
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>>681546013
I'm thinking they really wanted to use ascians again but decided against it at the last second
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>>681546363
what? you don’t trust the adl?
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>>681546379
Really makes you think, doesn't it?
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>>681546129
We did already though. We did some exploring in the god realm and then we got a vacation island courtesy of Tataru.
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>>681546227
>Anti-Defamation League
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>>681546305
I did for a week or two but with how many goddamned checkmarks regurgitate dumb bullshit from /v/ and /tv/ and /pol/, it really didn't change a lot.
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>>681546227
>how was gaming with your friends, honey
>wierd. someone named "herschel" from the "ADL" asked me if i was being harassed in the game and I said "yeah, by some faggot named herschel" and he thanked me
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>>681545612
I almost feel that is why they hired a tranny, so they could use them as a shield.
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>>681546363
Never?
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I don't understand how FF9 fits in any of this outside of some of the buildings vaguely looking like they're from the game
>no no there's some autistic plot parallels that only fart sniffers would consider
>and there's a knight... uh... lizard... robot!
WHY DID THEY DO THIS
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>>681546462
Maybe you should auto-block them like your idol does.
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>>681546227
>"study" by jewish supremacist pedophiles
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>>681546515
that's what they'd want you to believe, yes.
>nobody ever lived a good life, faggot, stop whining
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Doomers lost. Misogynists lost. Transphobes lost.

DT > EW > ShB > SB > HW > ARR

And it's not up for debate.
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>>681546525
people liked memberberries back when they were smartly integrated so now they're just bludgeoning them in
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>that fuck knew that the crops were dying because the float was broken and not being used properly and just sat on that information and was completely willing to just let the hanu starve to death just so that revelation could be part of this stupid royal vanity contest to pick the next leader.
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>>681546227
I've met zero players around my age in this game what makes the ADL think 10-17 year olds play this shit.
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>>681546462
Maybe try Reddit or Neogaf where everything non-woke is censored.
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>>681546592
HOLY BASED
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Doomers won. Misogynists won. Transphobes won.

ARR > HW > SB > ShB > EW > DT

And it's up for debate.
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>>681546525
It's more of an FFX expansion with the last area being similar to Dream Zanarkand
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>>681544210
I just remembered at some point they also said they were gonna use this expansion to give Thancred a new focus of some sort since ever since he managed to get forgiveness from Minfilia and raise Ryne he's just been kinda empty.

Well what can I saw, at the VERY LEAST he did have the one and only cool moment any Scions had this expansion, when he surprise attacks with WoL's perfect coordination.
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>>681546717
maybe try it yourself so you can get new posts to put on endless repeat
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>>681546592
Imagine building your entire personality around recency bias
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>>681546646
Why, do you think he could just culturxplain the Hanu their own tradition!? The gall of that.. He'd have to smash his head on a rock!
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>>681544210
>taps the sign
It’s all intentional to not let them overshadow the heckin diverse culture
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You know the last time we actually went places that weren't destroyed before we got there was ARR and I'm being generous considering ARR's gimmick was everything got shitfucked at the end of el classico
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For people who is done with it and actually want to share a good opinion

Post your tier list. Just base game no mid patch story

Shb>ew>hw>dt>sb>arr
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>>681544362
I don't what the fuck you're talking about but I'm starting to regret promising my friends I'd resub and play the new expansion with them...
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>>681546564
sound like qualified experts in harassing children
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>>681546525
Member Alexandria?
Member Lindblum?
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>>681546646
I AM GETTING FUCKING FLASHBACKS
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>>681546791
I'm just trying to help you find a safespace, no hostilities needed
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>>681545227
Does she still drop hints on future shit?
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>tfw the expansion didn't overhaul every single aspect of the game to cater to my wild fantasies as to what a low-stakes adventure entails
I can't believe Dawntrail is the same as Endwalker, Shadowbringers, Stormblood, Heavensward and ARR..... bros....

Are we retarded?
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>>681546850
ShB > HW > EW > power gap > SB = DT > ARR
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>>681546921
How many times are you gonna post this, retard?
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>>681546820
They know these companies are awful
They have to bend the knee or they'll get fucked by the cabal
Japan is finished, the kikes are already weaponizing payment processors against them
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Did zoraal ja even do the bird crop trial at all?
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>>681546850
ShB > HW > EW > SB > DT = ARR
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Is there a place where I can see the new housing shit?
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>>681546850
shb >> hw > arr >> ew >>>>> sb >> dt
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>>681543648
>People are really too dumb to understand a mentorship story?
Blade and Soul did a mentorship story far better than this
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>>681546921
Shut the fuck up retard
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>>681546791
You mean like >>681546921 ?
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>>681546906
no really i insist you'll fit right in with all the other chromosome swallowers on reddit that think they're in a biker gang just because they say "based" a lot all day
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I crave Eorzea, I hope it gets attacked or something by some nation that had a shard get infused and linked them or something.
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>>681542575
Reddit has been pushing this "shounen protag" meme for awhile now.
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>>681546850
SB > HW > ARR >>>>>>>>>>>> SHB > EW > DT
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>>681546850
I am of the genuine, sincere, no bullshit opinion that ARR was better than this and the Titan quest everyone always keeps shitposting about would have been a more adequate and well thought out way to do the low stakes vacation-style adventure to restart the plot of the game and start easing back later into high stakes.
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>>681547001
Who cares. Shut up and focus on Wuk, incel.
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>interdimensional fusion
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>>681542575
>Really cool
>Shonen protag
Pick one, nigger.
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>>681545252
Thancred doesnt try to kill himself, Yshtola doesnt actually kill herself, Estinien fuck knows he just left
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>filters casters
>filters pinglets
>filters brainlets
best dungeon
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>>681547126
Why would that be a good thing even
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Why do Hrothgar women desire Hyur men?
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We will never get the second half of the asia expansion.
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>>681546850
Shb>EW>HW>ARR>SB>DT
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>>681546850
SHB>HW>SB>DT>ARR
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>>681547147
I think people that played arr when it actually came out rate it higher than those that started around stormblood/shb
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>>681547001
No and it's not stated if he even got a keystone for it. It's not the first one that actually has a failure condition either, the cooking competition theoretically would screw him and Bakool out of the contest permanently. He also got his seer's help with the alpaca hunting too which was expressly forbidden to Wuk so it's not exactly like all the electors are impartial.
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didn't they add female Hrothgar this expansion? i haven't seen a single player walk around as one
actually, the only NPC i've seen as a fem hrothgar is wuk lamat
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>>681547214
looks like someone needs to get their noggin on
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>>681546592
Wuk Lamat is cute while you're a ghoulish man who will hit the wall harder than a meteorite. Your ploy to claim the character because of the diversity hire EN voice actor is obvious and laughable, just like your crude attempt at being a woman.
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>>681547251
I started in ShB (yes, you may proceed to call me a baby). I still hold that opinion. ARR wasn't THAT bad.
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>Dawntroons are positioning themselves to shit on ShB/EW in order to deflect from how much of a disaster DT has been
Fun times ahead
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>>681547223
Because reddit obsesses over shitty modern shounen anime like JJK or Boruto
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>>681547063
That's me, i'm based
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>>681547275
No sane player wanted them, its a tiny minority of freaks, like Vulpera on WoW
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>>681547147
It was. ARR gets a lot of shit but it has some high moments that set the bar for this series which passed the baton very well into heavensward. It wasn't perfect by any means, but it achieved what it needed to and set the groundwork for the world quite well.

ARR is better than Dawntrail
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>>681546592
ShB > HW > EW > DT > SB > ARR
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>>681547368
I thought even shounen retards didn't actually like shounen protagonists most of the time either that's why they all tard out over Sasuke and Vegeta
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tfw no hrothgar wife
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I've never met anyone who liked shb the most who cared about eorzea
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>>681546850
see >>681547479
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>>681547330
hey buddy, I wouldn’t gatekeep this shit game. I actually kind of miss the arr msq roulette dungeons being 8 man tho
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>>681546850
EW=ShB>HW>SB=DT>ARR
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>>681547357
I fucking hate recency bias cucks.
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No but seriously this is a worse Penacony

Except there's no Firefly to latch on your nuts
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>>681547514
are you a male hyur?
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It's so fucked reading these threads weeping with the credits in the background having just finished it

The amount of relentless shitting of every aspect of Dawntrail is fucking shameful for a xiv thread. Imagine investing thousands of hours into creating a product and having everyone call it the worst thing ever because their WoL can't just genocide their problems away

Name ONE reasonable negative thing about wuk lamat that isnt "le tranny"
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>>681547515
>you don't care about le fictional world!
Grow up
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>>681547483
Plenty of people like shounen protags.
That said I wouldn't say Boruto and JJK qualifies as the kind of standard shounen that has mainstream appeal.
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>>681547357
they are also calling anyone who liked ShB/EW a ''wowfag"
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>>681547462
not really a fair comparison, arr only really picked up towards the end of the patch cycle (other then coil) which dawntrail doesn't have yet.
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>>681547645
Sphene is just a worse Emet Selch
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>>681547645
Wuk is Firefly except she only latches on to the plot's nuts rather than (You)rs. I hate them both.
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>>681547645
No Sporkle either...
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>>681547671
try posting without crying and then I'll answer
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I miss the non-important Scions..
You know, the old elezen grandpa guy, Hoaring boulder, coultenet, the twins and so on...

Hell, I even miss that wheelchair retard.
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>>681545290
>cyberpunk bioshock ghost city of the future!!!!!!!!!

>still has range stoves and frying pans

COOL WORLDBUILDING
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>>681542427
TROON

LAMAT
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>>681547147
It's kind of weird when people talk about ARR being a slog when it has so many dungeons and shit, and yeah they all suck fucking shit now because of skill purging and level sync power creep but they didn't back then.
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>>681546850
ShB>EW>HW>SB>ARR>DT
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>>681547515
I liked ShB most (though it's a close matchup with HW) and I still honestly like Eorzea more than Norvrandt. I mean, Norvrandt is literally just a smaller Eorzea with worse maps, less characters, and all of them repeating the same "We're depressed and need to get rallied against the sin eaters" plot.
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>>681547671
But we did just genocide our problems away
What's your point, tranny?
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>>681547671
mary sue, though I suppose it is more correct to call him a gary stu. sick is this dumb nigger cat facing no real adversity and everyone sucking his damn cock like he’s royalty and getting showered with immediate praise for doing nothing. if your biggest character arc is “wow I didn’t realise that X was Y because I wasn’t woke enough” it’s pretty shit
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Does Amazon sell the Mtn Dew bottles with the exclusive points to get the Mountain Zu mount? If so, which one?
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>>681547671
>Name ONE reasonable negative thing about wuk lamat that isnt "le tranny"
I didn't play in EN dub so that isn't an issue.
All the interactions of the MSQ, except for some parts with Sphene, going through her with you not even needing to be there is shit.
So is the need to bring her up constantly even when she's elsewhere like when you finally leave her behind for a while to go to Shaaloani.
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>>681547671
>Name ONE reasonable negative thing about wuk lamat that isnt "le tranny"
this has been done multiple times in the past 72 hours
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So what exactly was this guy's problem?

Like seriously, the Saturday Morning cartoon race supremacist gets a redemption arc, and this guy is a a trial boss and voiced by Daisuke Ono in the JP dub but gets no actual development or background?
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>>681547957
daddy didn't love him as much as the adopted kids
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>>681547947
Only incels browse these threads for 72 hours straight
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>>681547786
Hilariously enough this was the perfect time to turn Hoary Boulder/Coultenet/Aenor into bigger characters but NOPE SCION REHASH ONLY WITH NO SOUL
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>>681547957
Daisuke ono is fucking expensive man, they needed to get rid of him ASAP.
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some autist needs to go through the quest log and count how many times "talk to wuk lamatt" shows up
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>>681547884
all me baby
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>>681547838
thousand maws was a shit dungeon, and so was aurum vale, none of the the arr dungeons were really fun and the only notable thing I can think of was stone vigil ice sprites heart surprisingly hard.
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>>681547884
What the fuck is a fucking "filler story" you retard?
HW was a good story, well written, with defined well made characters.
>UHHH IT'S NOT ASCIAN WANK 24/7 SO IT'S FILLER
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>>681547884
>mass replytard can't even click the right posts
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>>681547957
Daddy issues and racism
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>>681547915
Yes, but you have to contact them and speak with Wuk Lamat
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>>681547957
sigh... here we go again
let me explain it in brainlet terms for you
>dad is the perfect king loved by everyone
>be his sole heir
>born without his distinct strength of having two heads
>have to compete with your adopted siblings
>develop daddy issues where zarool ja has to constantly prove himself
>ends up projecting that malice onto his son

seriously... media literacy is dead
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>>681547957
Massive inferiority complex over being born as a miracle-birth to another miracle-birth and doing whatever it takes to prove he's as good as his father and failing that his siblings.
It's pretty spelled out in his fight and subsequent scene even if it was vague up to that point.
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>>681547884
too many zones in arr, too much running, and going around unlocking the primals was super fucking tedious
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the negativity in these threads seriously makes me nauseous. this fanbase has gotten so rotten and disgusting
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>>681548129
Totorak is the one that is actually crap but don't be talking shit about Aurum Vale bitch ass nigga
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>>681547884
>HW is literally a filler story
It contains Estinien's story who will later be a Scion, it directly leads into Ilberd acquiring Nidhogg's eyes and starting the war with Garlemald, it has you rescuing the lost Scions, it has Lahabrea's final death, it introduces Varis, and fuck you, Dragonsong was amazing.
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>>681547671
Reddit repost bot.
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The ability of FF14 players to want better representation and a better handling of cultures shown in Dawntrail's setting while also complaining because it inevitably takes *time* to do so in a way that feel respectful and genuine is fascinating.
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>>681548269
Other expansions managed.
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>>681548225
Estinien is literally a filler character though. He has no impact on the overarching narrative other than "looking cool"
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>>681548269
If they wanted to be "respectful" they wouldn't have forced a ball and chain on you the entire time
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>>681548269
I'm the one asking for lizards and giant dudes to be in my party, faggot.
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>>681548352
Looking cool already makes you a lot better than most.
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>>681548352
>other than "looking cool"
to be fair thats literally a dragoons only job
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>>681548269
Holy fuck, the marketing for this expansion is a HUGE scam.
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>>681548269
Literally no other expansion had this "problem", as they showed the story and the culture of the zones you were in by simply being there, instead of force feeding it to you in an unnatural way.
This is not hard to understand, idiot.
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>>681548352
Estinien literally saved us from the black rose that was gonna kill EVERYONE.
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This faggot is literally just reposting twitter posts
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>>681548269
Uhh, where's Wuk?
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>>681547671
>Name ONE reasonable negative thing about wuk lamat that isnt "le tranny"
Well....

>She overshadows Krile and Erenville who basically only get 3 cutscenes each for the entire expansion
>Despite taking so much screentime, she doesn't really have a character arc, nothing about her really changes. Her progression is quite weak and feels like instead of grow as a person or character, she just sorta made us do everything and took the credit
>She's very Hildebrand-esque in that she feels like a gag character, XIV humor is a mixed bag. Food Humor, Sea Sick Humor, she's just generally kinda a retard
>She's very childish, when you see how much weight is put on previous ruling characters like Aymeric, Nanamo, Crystal Exarch, fuck literally anyone, she seems to just think its all "PEACE LOVE" and nothing else. I'm glad they were forced to stick Kana in as president as well because her doing anything other than her Wukisms of "PEACE LOVE LET ME GET TO KNOW U" basically doesn't even fit the character.
>Despite this narrow world view, she's rewarded for it and is made leader with very, very little resistance from just about anyone.

tl;dr: she's loud, childish, annoying, takes up air time and doesn't actually contribute to the story all that much. The standout characters were the lizards, it would have been a better story without wuk
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>>681548475
Zeno did, technically
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I'm sorry... I said I didn't want allagans or ascians but I apologize. I'll take them, I swear I'll take them again
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ARE THEY MEDIEVAL OR HIGH TECH

MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND HIROI
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>>681548217
I will talk all the shit about it I want, it was long, people pulled the patrolling mobs on accident. When people were pullings the mobs to the boss door and getting someone else to pull so they got locked outside you know you have a shit dungeon.
I know you ate fruits at 2 on the first fruit boss and 3 at the second because you could run out of timing, I know that you get way more exp if you let the morbal pods hatch for some reason. I was there when it was fresh and it's always sucked.
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>>681548476
isnt that what most threads here are anyway? the internet is just one group of people pretending to be separate groups while bots fill the rest.
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>>681548269
>marketing two characters who were barely in the expansion
what did Wukshi P mean by this?
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>>681548440
it’s so fucking grim that the dawntrail apologists don’t have enough media literacy to realize they’re being spoken to like a 5 year old by the writing
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>>681548516
oh. my. science!
why did the new character get more screentime than already established characters we've been wanking for the last then years!
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tranny rights are men's rights, you bigot
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>>681548516
Please don't compare her to Hildebrand, he's a fucking legend and gets things done on his own.
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The expansion is not THAT bad. The problem is 100% Wuk but once you get to level 93 or so the rest of the crew can carry the plot and she gets a bit less annoying.
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>>681547671
she is a mary sue, they keep mentioning that she has all these flaws but we never see those flaws hold her back and her becoming stronger to over come them, everyone loves her, despite "being the weakest" she with no training overcomes all opponents, despite being "the dumbest" all of her ideas work and is shown to be more understanding of her people than the other "smarter" people.
I just wanted to wander the land and discover new things in a simple adventure like promised but i had to babysit a cat instead and listen to exposition about why being nice to people is good and cultures with different values should get along, wow what deep thought such good writing.
the fact that you are ignoring this means you are a fucking retard that is emotionally invested in this because "MY HECKING WHOLESOME TRANNY CAT" you and other like you who fail to understand basic writing principles should not comment on story when you lack all critical thinking skill,
TL:DR you should kill yourself now.
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>the spics eat tacos
>the whites eat steak with ketchup
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>>681548659
>10 years
>erenville

what
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>>681548674
>fetal alcohol syndrome is the fountain of youth
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>>681548694
wuk never goes away thoughbeit
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>>681548674
t. Republican eternally seething some random tranny on twitter made fun of his cult
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This is a valid woman chud!!!!
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>>681548694
The issue isn't Wuk aside from dubfags.
It's almost every other character basically ignoring you in favor of Wuk at all times.
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>>681548752
She goes away in Shaoolani.
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Why is this board so obsessed with transsexuals?
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>>681547772
Anything lacking Sparkle is confirmed bad.
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>>681548269
>Adventure awaits
PFFFFFFFTHHHHHTTTHHH AAAAAHAHAHAHAHHHHHAAAAAHAHAA THEY SAID IT THEY FUCKING SAID IT AGAIN LOOOOOOLLLL ADVENTURING HHHAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
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>>681548725
Oh yeah, that fucking "inferiority complex" that she completely gets over with after a talk and then suddenly she's stronger than someone that was able to almost break her axe with just one blow.
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>>681548725
The defence force get extremely fucking mad if you call her a Mary Sue, seen a steam review get sperged at for using the term
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WHAT the fuck was his problem?
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>>681548758
>random tranny
That is literally Wuk Lamat's VA
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fuck!!! dawntrail bros??
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>>681548831
Which is the shortest arc in the MSQ, then it's right back to being handcuffed to Wuk for the rest of the expansion
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>>681548694
Except she keeps coming back to be the main character after the 4th map.
If she had fucked off after the first half it would have been salvageable.
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>>681548694
Until she fucking killsteals on the final trial. That shit was horrid, you think it's finally your turn to be main character again and pull out the Azem crystal and then poochie shows up at the last second.
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>>681548829
Basically WoW storytelling, then.
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>>681548883
usually the terms they sperg the hardest at are the most accurate ones
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>>681548759
>can’t have a period
>can’t bear a child
>can’t breastfeed
>can’t have a vagina
>can’t be a woman
>can’t live to be 50
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>>681548914
This dumbass take explains a lot.
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>>681548659
Kill yourself
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>>681544869
Kill yourself schizo.
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>>681548889
jotaro had mad daddy issues
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I don't play FF XIV I just want to fuck this cat
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>>681548538
It was an Estinien/Gaius/Zenos team effort.
Well, surprise team on Zenos' side.
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>Metacritic scores up soon
>First two are up
>85
>60


We’re going yellow this time
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>>681548914
it hasn’t been 24 hours and you’ve already replaced final solution nine with a new boogeyman
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>>681548674
>>681548759
LOL

>>681548758
not him, but i'm a lefty and i think putting this troon in as the main character is absurd. his voice is worse than jar jar, at least jar jar was funny
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>>681548974
>must... fight in the culture war! must... DEFEND DAWNTRAIL AT ALL COSTS!!!
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>>681548694
Sadly they take every chance to sideline the rest and you stick with her. IF she and the catboy had switched later and she was the resolve to defend the city while he went to learn as the head of reason that alone would have been a great break from her.
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>>681548948
Yeah pretty much.
Sphene still recognizes you so the end of the expansion is better about it but prior to Alexandria it's all Wuk all the time and the only ones who even register you as taking part in the story are Wuk, the Scions and Bakool Ja Ja.
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>>681549078
Grummz is not exactly a "new" thing, nor is he a boogeyman.
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>>681549042
same. especially if shes as retarded as people claim.
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Talk to Wuk Lamat? Why, yes. I'd love to chat with my wife again.
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https://x.com/Grummz/status/1808258184970490025

Leave woke lemutt to me.
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I cared about Meffrid more than anyone in DT
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>>681549042
Yiff in hell, furfaggot
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>>681549172
I want to impregnate the retard
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>>681549153
>nor is he a boogeyman
he is when you bring him up constantly rent free
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>>681549193
>linking twittershit
Mcfucking kill yourself.
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DAWNSISTERS THEY ARE SLANDERING US
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>Next Live letter Yoshida rolls out the crocodile tears
>Wuk is immediately sidelined in the post story for Erenville adventures with the cup leading to the next expansion, which involves the void and Zero again in Shadow Italy
>Wuk is never seen again
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>>681549068
Owari da. https://www.metacritic.com/game/final-fantasy-xiv-dawntrail/
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>>681549193
Grummz the Grifter
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>so long as people remember they're never really gone
>nobody remembers because of memory management
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>>681549217
I didn't spend money on a bad expansion
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>kate defense force has ran out turf to astro so now they are just posting porn to derail the thread
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>>681549205
Mah man.
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I'll be honest, Krile got so fucked over I was certain that when she couldn't use the earring, it would be Wuk who could either use it, or got access to the last zone making the earring pointless. That's how badly any character that wasn't Wuk was given anything to do.
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>>681547884
Who cares if its filler, is it good filler or not?
HW is literally as good as the story gets, it was all downhill after, nigger
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Now that the dust has settled, how do we feel about viper?
Do you enjoy it?
Do you feel it was worth the inclusion?
Are you content that it was viper and not corsair as everyone originally believed?
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>>681549078
Fragmentlayer's main use is compiling other dipshits like AminnSouheil, bluedragonda3rd and Duckydapper because he keeps retweeting them.
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>grummz is not publically shit talking the game
>now people are going to use him as a example of people who are unhappy with the game
The strawmans and gaslighting is going to be rough for a few months huh
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>>681549402
Dogshit job, should have been Corsair.
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>>681549371
I just want to fuck the cat there's nothing deeper than that
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>>681549303
Erenville is an overrated character whose intrigue was carried by him being cool and mysterious
But Dawntrail showed it to be him just being autistic and having no life experience outside sorting through literal animal feces

He has nothing more to show as a character. Nothing in his backstory, nothing of interest to note. He's a walking zoologist that's so autistic he can barely talk
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GOOLD?
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>>681549245
A real guy who I can point to is not a boogeyman.
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Remember when Azys Lla was actually relevant to anything that happened after the expansion and not a dead zone the second you were done the original MSQ there
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>>681549402
It's shit, I will play ninja forever
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>>681549479
He's just popular with the nip women because his VA is Kirito.
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when you call people ADHD retards for not being able to follow Stormblood or DT this is who you're being mean to btw
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>>681549397
>Omg dawntrail is so boring this expansion is just filler nothing really matters
>Y-YEAH WHO CARES IF HW IS FILLER? I HAD FUN WITH IT
I had fun with Dawntrail, heh :)
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>>681549237
HEY WAIT THAT'S A
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>>681549479
stupid frog you don't get it, he's going to be a main character next expansion when a new job gets revealed and it turns out he's been practicing and pulls out the new weapons.
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>>681549575
It's not a nipple so it's fine
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The Sahagin child delivers a better line read after the 99 trial than Wuk Lamat does throughout the entire game. It actually got some emotion outta me
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Judgebro status?
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Wasn't Ishikawa supposed to be supervising

This is a colossal fuckup
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>>681549579
Damn, can't wait to see him take a bigger role, Krile was so good in DT's MSQ!
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the final ACK was upon us
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>golden city is just the 12th floor of a tower
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Famous oxymorons
>dry water
>honest politician
>legitimate Dawntrail criticism
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>Wukkie cucked me out of the best part of this expansion
I will never recover from this one.
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>>681549402
Fast as fuck, fun as fuck. MNK and NIN fags in the shed
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>>681549479
>washed up nobody with no story or character arcs left
so he's perfect for the scions
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>>681549679
I assume you're playing with the shit-tier ameridub.
Because Wuk really isn't badly VA:d in Japanese.
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>>681549690
Been dead since Law's Order armor.
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>>681549702
Yeah, I'm pretty sure both she and Oda show up as supervisors or some similar title in the credits
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>>681549479
why was he the narrator again
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5.3 was August 2020 and was the last time we had a story that was universally enjoyed, almost four years to the day
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I WON'T LET YOU ASSHOLES TURN THIS GAME INTO WOW 2.0 AND FUCKING HUMILIATE ME AGAIN
BACK THE FUCK OFF
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>>681545086
What the fuck was everything post 6.0?
I’ve been bored for a year. Two more years of this? No thanks migga
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>>681549556
every single ffxiv player is a tranny cuck anyway so no harm done
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>>681549556
I don't know where people keep taking that Raubahn is made the head. There is no scene where Raubahn is made head of anything. The scene where she decides to stay in Ala Mhigo happens completely separate of all the other leaders, it's just Nanamo in there with him in that scene where they both cry, and afterwards Lyse just says he's a general. A general is not a head of state (at least in most democratic states).
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Wuk Lamat will join the Scions
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>>681549751
AOV proves you wrong on that second point. Maybe change it to honest white poltician sis
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>>681549843
do you think hiroi thought about it for more than 5 minutes?
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>>681549402
It's the Kirito class NIN haters wanted. Too bad it has no damage or raid utility.
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>>681548907
>english dub
Yes, random tranny.
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>>681547230
Wait that's a woman?
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>>681549402
Pretty good, yeah. Needs some potency buff, but it's not bad.
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>>681549704
I think she actually got a pretty decent bit in the final zone, shit pacing aside. she deserves a big I fucking told you so moment when her requests about the golden city get repeatedly sidelined until it fucked everything over.
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>>681549402
I've heard people say it was low on damage, and in one of my roulettes I saw a bard outdamage it while the bard was undergeared. The viper was probably a shit player, but it needs a buff.
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>>681549402
worst job they have ever added. Only other new job I've actively disliked as much as it was RDM
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>>681549946
Yes she is voiced by a Japanese woman
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>volcano region is a combat area
>I already know we aren't actually going to do any fighting there though
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Hey guys check out my expansion idea
>The final zone is a long lost civilization memorialized by the main antagonist
>The final dungeon is further memories of that civilization narrated by the main antagonist
>The final trial features an axe-wielding ally barging in to help you out at the last minute
>The antagonist's final words are about remembering them and their people
>The final scene shows the sun rising over the now destroyed ancient civilization
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>>681548837
Honestly Hoyo should swoop in now that XIV is fucking up and release an MMO. They've proven themselves with Genshin and HSR, they're more than capable of running an MMORPG.
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Ninja is the coolest job with sick animations, vipers are kinda lame honestly. Also fuck you for turning our tome gear into stupid leather coats.
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>>681549402
Its flashy but RPR does what it does better to me
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When's the next live letter or whatever?
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>>681549579
>>681549704
krile got so fucked over bros. They should just make Erenville a beastmaster and shove him in limited job sidequest purgatory
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>>681549402
A mistake almost as bad as wuk itself
the job is incredibly boring and it's just NIN but soulless
it's braindead unga bunga under the pretense of being "fast" but it's just doing brainless shit, like a clicking game being "fast"
it will cater to a very small sector of people that are basically tasteless
I really wanted to like it, I truly did, I even collected scouting gear in preparation for it but they dropped the ball extremely hard and I regret leveling it


Imagine if we had what looked like Corsair in the trailer, a reverse red mage that is both melee and ranged with a saber and a gun
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>Zepla is the top XIV streamer rn with 12K viewers
B-b-b-but she played the wizard game! Forum trannies, what happened???
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>Thank you for joining us, Vow Wuk Lamat! I understand the responsabilities. I understand it's hard to rule people, but rulers (Pause) should protect their citizens at all costs (Close-up). I would do anything to protect them, and their memories.
>What was t-
>Nothing! How about we go see the hot-dog stand?
Hmmm... I feel like this character might not be that well intentionned...
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>>681546303
Even the VAs for female characters had meat
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This is just making me think of how awful the lava in LotA looks now, can they at least make it this bright
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>>681550143
i dont know what any of that shit means
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>>681550042
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>final arc to face the big bad and save le world
>OH FUCK HOLD ON TIME FOR FOOD FILLER
I'm fucking floored, this shit has to be deliberately malicious
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>>681549402
The job has literally nothing going for it for theming. It's... dual swords and a twinblade, I guess. It's themed around snakes, supposedly, but that only comes through in snake scale particles on some moves and the LB3, and the snake fang imagery of its job crystal and icon, and that's pretty much it. Viper's artifact armor isn't anything of ancestral significance to the profession, it's literally just a set the guy commissioned from the Weaver's guild because he needed new threads. I very much doubt it was supposed to be a Tural job, at first. Hell, for all of that I don't think it was even supposed to be a snake job. It has the feel of something that didn't have a strong central idea, which is especially weird because it's most likely a Zidane reference in its choice of weaponry; I'm not sure why they didn't just make it a Zidane job and put in Scoop Art, Meo Twister, etc., it occupies the same armor slot as Ninja (which starts as Rogue, AKA Thief) for a reason.

Gameplay wise it's a pretty cool take on ideas from both Gunbreaker and Reaper, with a small dash of Samurai. It's very interesting to get a job that actually, specifically *wants* you to double-weave and has a slightly slower GCD speed on skills that prompt it to make it easier on higher latencies. It feels like a response for people that bitched about Reaper being slow before it gets Enshroud, and a love-letter to people that wanted a DPS spec for Gunbreaker or just wanted it to be a red job.
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>>681548181
They never develop this in cutscenes to any capacity
You just have to assume it
The development is literally a toothpick's worth. What am I playing, Elden Ring? Let me read 5 minutes of no voiced cutscene text like everything else in this game
It's fucking stupid? Zenos in Stormblood wasn't even this bad either. At least his singular dimension was SOMETHING
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>>681550082
>Gachaslop MMO
>The AF gear sets have hard pity at 100 pulls
>$20 per 10 pulls
>dyes and glamour prisms are $5 in packs of 5
>Trust NPCs are rolled for
>To level them you need duplicates
I can already see it.
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>>681549402
it's simple, but fairly fast. I like it, but potency-wise wise it's kind of fucked at the moment.
I really like Pictomancer. But it might be a bit overtuned
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did they really finish kriles arc? didnt she want to find out about her grandpa did they really finish that in 15 mins worth of focus?
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>>681548508
Even as the star of DT she's still female, and they know who their target audience is.
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>>681549193
>Grummz
Based! Give 'em hell, Grummzyboy!
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>>681549531
Kirito JP VA is voicing Hermes/Fandaniel, not Erenville
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>>681550082
>dawntrail haters are hoyofags
you should genshit yourself
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>>681549402
It's poopy. Picto on the other hand is fantastic
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>>681550247
Get to know the people you are going to delete from existence, because fuck you we want to waste your time.
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>>681542427
I genuinely would've rather spent the MSQ leapfrogging between 30 different near one-off npc's like swaths of early and mid ARR doing busy work but still learning about the world in bite size pieces, and then occasionally being called upon by the scions to do main plot scenarios for whatever reason in dungeons/ trials, than having to babysit Wuk for the entirety of my "adventure"
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>>681550082
fuck it im down, at this stage ill take gacha level writing
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>>681550160
WoL fucking knew something was up but didn't do anything.
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>>681549303
If they bring Zero back its just further proof they have learned nothing. She was a dogshit character and one of the worst in all of FFXIV. At least with SB they managed to somewhat correct course and airdrop Raubahn in to fix the narrative mess of having someone with absolutely no leadership ability somehow be in charge of a newly liberated country. How do you even fix Wuk going forward?
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>>681550395
>uhmm why didnt my WoL just murder her at the slightest hint of suspicion
based zenos pilled retard
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>>681550082
>gacha mmo where you have to swipe for gear and items
oh wait that's literally just black desert online, why are gacha fags so retarded their entire basis on playing these games is purely on their addiction to gambling.
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>>681550143
people watching the required 6 hours they need for the new mount
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>>681549193
lol he's just reposting everything that gets posted here
hey grummz, i know you're browsing this thread
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>>681549402
COR would've saved the expansion
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>>681547671
Her entire story arc is boring and unimaginative with her being just a generic as fuck shounen protag down to her insatiable need for food. On top of that she's a naive retard and devoid of any actual character development because her shtick of muh friendship and harmony conveniently works out every time so there's not even a need for her to grow. She also takes precious screentime away from Krile and even Erenville, who have been with us longer and deserve some proper characterization considering their lack of it so far.
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i'm only glad Krilefags got shit on again, they're annoying
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>>681548946
>do all the actual work
>Poochie shows up and gets in the last hit
>"POOCHIE DID IT! SHE SAVED EVERYONE!"
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Not seeing a lot of fantasy in this shitass modern city themepark.
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>>681549193
grummz is a fat asian loser and a failure of a man with no girlfriend or wife
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>>681547275
What server? Exodus has a good number of them.
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>>681550587
sis your italian buildings?
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>>681550276
>Alternatively, you can do content for primogems
Yup, I think Hoyo would win MASSIVELY if they invested in MMOcoin.
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>>681550570
My wife Maya deserved her expansion and it was stolen by wuk
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>>681547957
>the Saturday Morning cartoon race supremacist gets a redemption arc
Bakuul never believed in it, he merely pretended for his people. Zoraal fully believed he was as good as people wanked him to be and got mind broken when he got shat on by the two other children.
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they genuinely need to remake the last trial cutscene i'm not even joking, just remove her involvement from the trial entirely.
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>>681549402
BTFO by pictomancer.
At last corsair is probably coming out next expansion unless they want to make another OC dogshit job.
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>>681550665
Gross
But that remind me, did they give lalas their bellybutton back?
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>>681550652
>do the most soul sucking mundane non content dailies for 5 pimogems and have to save up for weeks to do get 1 (one) think you want
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>>681549556
>She's not THE leader
>She's A leader!
>It's TOTALLY different and means everything you said is now invalid!
Bruh.
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Can't believe all the dooming about Kate and the trannycat turned out even worse in reality
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>Dubfags have such terrible taste that they would actually like the expansion if Wuk was voiced by a British woman.
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>>681542427
Koana going "btw Wuk intends to offer you a job in her new kingdom :)" devil triggered me
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>>681550042
Check out my expansion idea

>WoL goes on vacation to a recently founded golden saucer style resort
>You shoot the shit with the scions and arrive
>1st dungeon is a event run with caught animals and challengers because your the fucking warrior of light and they want you to have fun
>2nd dungeon is pissed off pirates or something that want to plunder the area with a questline introduces some new pirate lord
>trial could be a primal or age old enemy that wants to flood the coast due to to pirate bullshit or something so you need to save the resort.
>bring in characters form limsa or those guys from the jade sea and have some pirate vs pirate stuff going on for some duties
but that's enough fanfiction for now
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>Role Waiting List: After 50
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>>681550490
put her in the banished from ever being relevant shed
>>681548946
she also outdpses your party
god i want her skull to get fucking caved in
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>>681550358
meant for >>681547884
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>>681550941
>no healer friend
You fucked up anon
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>>681550839
I miss the trancer discourse
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>>681543781
This expansion had a ton of work put into it as a whole. Virtually every aspect is a step up except for the writing of the MSQ, which I'd describe as unfettered garbage outside of a handful of moments.
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>>681550814
>He doesn't have abyss
>He doesn't have IT
>He doesn't fish
Oh know know know know!
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>>681550491
>the co-sovereign of a nation that attacked you and was present herself as they slaughtered elderly and children in your capital city, with attacks deliberately aimed at civilians in general
So what is the actual threshold for kill/capture a target if this isn't it?
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>arent you le sad when ppl die :(
Gee I wonder why Hiroi's theater gig went bust
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>>681549556
>FFXIV players skip over good story while defending dog shit like DT.
Classic.
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IT WILL GET GOOD 1000 HOURS IN
TRUST THE PROCESS
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>>681549724
Oh noooooooo
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>>681549821
>senior story designer
Ishikawa and Oda didn't supervise shit
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There's some Japanese cast members that they keep adding characters so they have a role in nearly every expansion like Sayaka Ohara, and then there's Eri Kitamura who I'm pretty sure they killed off Papalymo just to get rid of
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>>681546227
when I was a kid it used to be 100% in every game, and it was better that way.
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>>681549193
Please stop making stupid people famous
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Always the fucking hroth players. Gatekeep furries before literally anything else.
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>>681549402
I'm so confused on how to keybind it that I pretty much just slam buttons in my tribe quests. I haven't even completed the job quest that "teaches" you the job.

Holy fuck I cannot into a job that has combos where 75% of the attacks cannot be assigned to the hotbars. I'm sure I'll be fine when I make a concentrated effort but I'm Pictomancer 100 and I had that job mostly locked down right after I picked it up.
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>>681549556
>I skipped it lol
Typical SB hater, or reddit npc as I call them
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>>681549371
Honestly, pornposting is a lot better than seeing the same posts over and over. Kate trannies and doomers can all go seethe and dilate alongside trancers and the venat schizo.
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>>681550042
>>681550880
heres my expansion idea
>b team scion expansion
>go to vietnam and have fun with grandpa elf and arianne
>arrianne trying to become a better scion while grandpa getting ready to retire
>meet atori nagae who has a horrible eorzean accent have fun with that
>wol tags along to get a report from arriane
>shit happens
>wol and arriane and grandpa and atori do stuff.

>do this with the other bteam scions as well
>hoary and elf in corvois but with no graha tia
>aenor and roe and clemence focusing on teh sisters and aenors horniness
>riol in merycydia
>bartender in garlemalder
>the two roes in teh viking roe island do some sort of epic viking quest wol kiills an even bigger wolf or odin equivalent.

there thats my expansion.
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>>681551127
I love Lyse, it only took Wuktrail to open my eyes.
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>>681546227
>Anti Defamation League

what do they actually even do?
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>>681550870
If you didn't pick the mean option for every single dialogue choice involving wookie (especially if you played english) you didn't beat Dawntrail.
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>>681551175
>tfw no samurai gf to give you quickdraw handjobs
bros...
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>>681549724
That rope is not taut. This cat is merely pretending to commit suicide. Possibly for attention.
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>>681551067
>Game is practically the only thing keeping Square out of the red when their AAAs are floundering and their gachas can't fool any whales
>Still cutting corners by poaching talent for boondoggles and replacing them with retards who write like they're still 16
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>>681551043
I do expect them to make it better long-term with patch storylines.
Still doesn't change that around 70% of the expansion MSQ felt extremely weak. Neither good enough as a storyline on it's own nor great as an area-introduction like in ARR. (except arguably for Alexandria)
Never been a big fan of "here's why you should like the villains and now you have to kill them there's nothing you can do about it" shit. Hopefully in this case we actually see some sphene patch content.
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>>681546227
>league not mentioned
obviously bought out
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>>681550491
>Your only options are murder or nothing
You should really work on growing a second braincell before trying to call people names, retard.
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>>681551127
if you take a look at my screenshot folder you'd know how much I love lyse
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>>681551043
>It gets good at lvl93
>It gets good at lvl95
>It gets good at lvl97
>It gets good at lvl99
>It gets good post-MSQ
>it gets good in 7.X
>it gets good in 8.0
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>>681551127
I've never disliked Lyse that much t b h, the worst character in SB was Hien
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>>681547884
Nigger it introduces the warriors of darkness you fucking fag
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>>681546227
>players under 25 playing a subscription based MMO
Kek good one
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Just got to Arizona
It's safe to just skip cutscenes from this point on right
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>>681549257
dungeon bosses are unironically the highlight of 7.0
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>>681551373
welcome to the WoW cope cycle, now in XIV flavor
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>>681551426
No, what's with you fucking retards.
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I need to say this but everyone i've ever seen complain about having to read too much in Dawntrail is american
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>>681546850
EW>ShB>HW>DT>>ARR>SB
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>>681551127
Holy RATIO’d lmao
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>>681547884
>Shadowfetus literally cannot comprehend a story if it doesn't prominently feature ascians.
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>>681551426
Arizona is one of the better parts.
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>>681551067
Hiroi beheading at next live letter
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>>681551498
this was always the cope for xiv though lol
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>>681551508
that's because you're playing on NA servers you fucking donkey
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>Krile saying "our" Dawnservants
I have yee'd my last haw
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>>681551379
correct. Lyse actuallly has people that like her, no one gives a shit about Hien. And while we're on the subject of NPCs getting elevated above the player where's all the uprorar about Aymeric? Dude does nothing the whole story, gets kidnapped getting horsefart killed, then made president of the catholics after you kill the pope
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>>681547671
we did do gencoide to the endless
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>Go everywhere in America except Canada
I see how it is eh
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>>681551026
The character needs to stand proud in the middle of a preferably large area, do a /smirk emote and proudly announce their evil plans to the characters. Preferably, one of the protagonists should yell "Why, you...!" and have the Warrior of Light do a ( 。 •̀ ᴖ •́ 。) expression to clearly show his distress over the situation. *Then* you're allowed to actually attack, assuming you've done the 10 quests or so of preparation beforehand, obviously.
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this character was my last hope for DT and apparently she's evil and dies
unlucky
yeah, I'm thinking it's filler
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Updated Trueblood Mail looks great. Can't wait for the rest of the AF sets to get the same treatment.
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Everyone is rightfully shitting on Hiroi but I'm very curious to see how much of this retarded bullshit is Oda's fault.

Ishikawa should also be put on trial for rubberstamping this horseshit. Time for a fucking reckoning.
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>>681551426
Yes then you can start posting uninformed takes on the msq like everyone else in here
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>>681551127
Hmmm interesting. Jarvis, why aren't Ryne, Yshtola, Alisaie, Gaia, Ysayle, or Yugiri in this image?
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>>681542575
HOLY BASED
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>>681545263
That's exactly why I dropped it after 6.0, and every time I check in these threads from time to time they're always full of complaints about how awful the latest story is.
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>>681549843
>why was he the narrator again
He's the local so it was either him or Wuk or else DEI cult would've had Yoshi's balls
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>>681547671
I slay gods nigga I killed Ifrit at level 16 nigga I don't play second fiddle to some fugly cat NIGGA
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ShB>HW>EW>SB>=ARR>powergap>B-Tier JRPG>DT
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>>681551726
that was already posted you grifting twitter retard
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>>681551738
Why would it be Oda's fault?
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glad I dropped this finally at the end of EW, I just cared about zenos anyways by that point
I do gotta wonder how big are the filesizes now with the new expansion? it was already getting too annoying to put it in my SSD
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>get viper player in VEX
>the biggest shitter eating every mechanic
this is going to be a constant, isn't it
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>>681547957
his character archetype is a classic but I think they forgot to make flashback scenes for him being jealous of wuk/koana growing up
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>>681551726
nooooo fuckkkkkk. Can this nigger just kill himself already
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>>681546850
ShB>HW>EW>DT>ARR>SB
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>>681544523
>you won't engage with the story at all but you will take pot-shots at it
Welcome to what it's been like to be an Engage fan for the last year and a half.
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>You know how the majority of the job quests we ever wrote were boring, forgettable shit that completely waste the potential behind their concepts?
>Let's have the writers of those stories do the MSQ now.
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>>681551726
oh 100% this explains where all of these fucking idiots in threads recently are coming from
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>>681551696
2 more weeks
trust in the plan
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>lv 92 axe looks better than anything else in the expansion
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>>681551426
skip until wuk comes back, then skip straight to end credits
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>>681551083
I still can't quite get over how absurd his whole death was
>We can't fight it, I have to an hero myself to contain it!
>It breaks out nearly instantly anyway
>Omega just randomly bonks it and fucks off
>At the end Zenos who has been beating your ass throughout the expansion fuses with it and goes down like a bitch
Most worthless heroic sacrifice I've ever seen.
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>textools back (and updated to be better)
>xivcombo back
>artisan back
>noclippy back
>ReAction back
>Chat Bubbles back
>Most mods just work outright

time for dawntrail to REALLY begin
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>>681551884
HOLY FUCKING COOOOOOOOOOPE
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>>681551696
Straight men aren't this game's target audience unfortunately.
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>>681551914
I am so goddamned mad about Samurai's changes, it got a wonderful 92 sword.
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>new Manafont
I have only played BLM once since the update but Jesus fuck what a stupid button
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>>681551853
oh fuck no I'm not gonna defend DT and Wuk anymore if it means I have to be allied with Engagers
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>>681551924
methinks the /tv/ monkey doth protest too much
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>>681551656
>where's all the uprorar about Aymeric? Dude does nothing the whole story
He's the one that welcomes you into Ishgard, who facilitates you, Alphinaud and Estinien leaving without making a fuss, who goes speak with Vidofnir and Hraesvelgr on behalf of all ishgardians, the one who confronts Thordan (his father) about the secrets and the primal plan, and in last instance the one who remodels ishgard's government once the church is no longer allowed to be in charge.

Yeah no, dude actually earned his fucking bread.
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>>681551884
>recently
yeah because DT was perfect and there was zero negativity before this dumbass tweeth
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I miss the ascians
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>>681551884
This. First, it's discord raiders, and now they have the alt-right twitter army attacking Dawntrail too? The WoWfugees are getting REALLY desperate.
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>>681551696
>evil
No but she's unsaveable unless we get some patch follow-ups.
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>>681551656
yea aymerics trash. i was hoping the ew rolequest on ishgard would focus on artoriel a bit more.
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>>681551923
Oh, Dalamud is back up?
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>>681551923
>xivcombo back
No tf it isnt.
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>>681551884
you will never fit in
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>>681547671
completely insufferable and plain irritating. Finally get a passport to cross the bridge to Texas and it fucking slaps until Lemutt shows up again.
>TACOS
>FAMILY
>SEASICK
It already was incredibly tiresome to watch a cutscene after beating the snake bird
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>>681551726
Great, this grifting culture war retard and his subhuman goblin followers are going to completely poison the well on criticism of Dawntrail. Really fucking conductive to getting the changes we want to the game.
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>>681551884
It's not like the xpack is a huge pile of shit, no it's the twitter guy sent his sycophants, that must be it!
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>>681552028
hes retarded and doesnt know how to rule his own city. post hw is dogshit.
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>>681551748
Don't forget Venat, the one who gets the biggest amount of pointless hate from a bunch of actually self-declared mysoginists.
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>transphobia defense already started
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>>681549303
We can only hope
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>>681551978
It's a GREAT button now, new changes mean we spend only two GCDs minimum in ice phase now.
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>>681552125
It doesn't matter because Yoshitpiss only listens to JP players (and they don't like Wuk)
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>>681551978
It gets worse!
>THUNDER
>PARADOX ONLY BEING ON ONE ELEMENT MEANS THE SKILL MAKES NO SENSE
>MOBILITY HAS NOT BEEN HAMPERED WHATSOEVER
>NOW PUNISHED WITH MASSIVE DAMAGE LOSS IF YOU CAN'T FINISH FIRE PHASE
>BLACK MAGE WILL BECOME A MUCH, MUCH, MUCH WORSE CHOICE IN OLD CONTENT IN GENERAL, ESPECIALLY ULTIMATES
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>>681551884
people were tired of wuk latroon days before grummz and his retarded minions got wind of it (which was like an hour ago, check the catty, there are like 4 threads at least)
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>>681551884
Anon, you're telling me people are buying the game, giving the ""wokist SE"" money, just to downvote it on steam?

How delusional are you nigger?
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>>681551686
The closest thing we got to Leaf in the expansion is Tobli, and they killed that in the English script.
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>It's the WoW players
>It's the Discord raiders
>It's the Trancers
>It's the altright chuds
>It's the zoophiles
>It's the indians
>It's the ShBabies
>All of them are a single guy
Anything else to keep track of?
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>>681552126
After all, Grummz has never been known for having a surging crowd of flying monkeys doing his bidding.
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>>681552251
It's me.
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>>681551809
tranny post.
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>>681552251
diaperfags
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>QUICK LOOK FOR A NEW EXCUSE TO DEFLECT CRITICISM GO GOGOGOGOGO
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>>681552251
>>All of them are a single guy
That guy? It was me.
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>>681552247
What do you mean?
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>>681551924
>>681552034
>>681552040
>>681552083
>>681552126
Me when I literally cannot read a post before replying to it.
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>>681552075
works on my machine

>>681552067
beta leaked
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>>681552251
It's this guy
>>681552283
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>>681552251
You will never be a real Ascian, trancefag.
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>>681552335
another tranny post.
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>>681552335
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
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I apologize WoWchads.
I'm so sorry
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>>681552315
If you don't like Dawntrail you're a Trotskyist.
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>>681551190
I had this in mind with Fordola, i dont even mind if they bring the gay nigga rabbit
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>>681552354
What's the beta leak? Gimme gimme gimme.
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>>681552352
keep crying
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I kinda fell asleep at one point
is fountainjane gay?
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>>681551874
>add a self insert oc
>make her the focus of the whole xpack
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>>681552352
>Make an atrocious post
>Get called out
>Y-you didn't read! Here's this reddit image format to show how dumb you are!
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Mom said it's my turn to vaguepost
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>>681552348
In the JP script, he ends all his sentences with EEH?
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>>681552251
You forgot Doomers or Doomies.
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>>681551696
she dies thanking Wuk
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The story is trash, but the dungeons and trials have me hopeful that the fights will be more fun than the past couple of expansions. That's about the extent of my nuanced opinion right now because I've spent about 70 percent of my time playing crafting and gathering.
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Why isn't /wowg/ shitting on us? Their general is nothing but on topic when they could be taking revenge for 2021.
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>>681552175
>love genki tomboys
>like Wuk Lamat
>hate how she gets written in the story
>hate trannies
>trannies try to claim Wuk because of a nepo hire

What did I do to deserve this suffering?
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>>681551726
Grummz is on our side for this one, based
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>>681551726
>>681551884
grummz is an industry plant as a scapegoat to make genuine criticism look like its just /pol/ shit to normalfags
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>>681552406
DalamudBetaKind "apiX"
DalamudBetaKey "empanadas"
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>>681552395
But I am.
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>>681552439
One guy who says "the threads are full of retards" vs. five guys that say "Oh, so you think nobody hates the game, huh?"
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>>681552513
This. He's the well-poisoning king.
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>>681552354
Isn't that sloth combo? I wanna condense the combos not let the game play itself...
>>681552406
"DalamudBetaKey": "burrito",
"DalamudBetaKind": "stg",
both at %appdata%\XIVLauncher\ in dalamudConfig.json
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>>681552402
sorry bro stuck in role quest hell.
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>>681552491
we're busy playing other games that aren't wow or xiv
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>>681552491
leave them alone anon. I felt really bad seeing all the people raiding their threads (even though the memes were fucking hilarious)
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HYDAELYN TRACE!
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>>681552549
Gotta test this to make sure it doesn't make mustard gas.
>>681552607
WHICH ONE DO I BELIEVE
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>>681546227
>ADL
>>681551415
Now this post is comedy
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>>681552579
>One guy
That was you faggot, come on now.
And no, he's implying that this twitter post is WHY the thread is negative which is completely retarded.
Dumbass.
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remember... remembird we once lived...
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>>681552491
Both games are on a shituation who cares at this point, guild wars 2 migration might be soon
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>>681551923
>roulette speeds magically increase
How many of you retards are using this shit. It's a day and night difference to yesterday. Gone from barely faster than trusts to altogether mechanic skipping.
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>>681552264
>>681552352
The xpack sucks donkey dick, SB is better.
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>>681552513
Grummz being an industry plant would imply he's been a part of any industry since 2005.
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>>681552491
Too risky
Could potentially blow up back at them if WW also ends up bad
Now if WW ends up having a good plot (doubtful but who knows) things are really gonna get grim
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>>681552647
Both work just try your luck anon.
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>leveling trusts
Mine are stuck in ShB, I'm in a trust dungeon right now and it's fucking painful.
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>>681552715
Everyone on PC cheats to some degree, and streamers encourage it
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>>681552750
Nobody plays WoW for the story though.
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>600 replies
to think we started off as heavenshills we are now dawntrash
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>>681552685
Everybody. One. Person.
>And no, he's implying that this twitter post is WHY the thread is negative which is completely retarded.
No, he's implying that Grummz asskissers are why the thread is bad. Which is still stupid to specifically pin blame on one thing.
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>>681552607
It is, but you can use it to condense the combos without condensing everything, its fairly customizable. You can program it to do just what base xivcombo does.
I use it to collapse tank 123s/ aoes
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>>681552335
BASED.
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>>681552175
yup, they will swear it's the 'far right chuds' that hate the tranny and the game is actually a masterpiece
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>play lalafell for the meme
>every other race feels wrong
>eventually go femlala
>cant switch off only switch to girlier lalafell
help
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>>681552795
Anon leveling them doesn't affect that..
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>>681552713
Death is not the end!
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>>681552715
Don't forget about cactbot. That's the best one.
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>>681552750
I played beta, the plot is fine. It does not treat you like a retard like DT so it will be seen as better
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>>681552872
strongest race in the game
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>>681546850
SbH>EW>HS>ARR= DT>SB
It's not necessarily that DT's story is horrid it's just more that others were better.
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>>681552750
Anon, the entire Warcraft universe is utterly fucked in terms of narrative and writing. It is functionally impossible to create a remotely decent story in the setting anymore. FFXIV's writing has been pretty bad for the last year or so. WoW's downward slide in writing is old enough to drive.
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>>681552835
I see. Thank you.
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>>681552873
I just want Y'Shtola in a swimsuit...
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>>681552872
This but femra, neither too short or too tall
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>>681552938
Give that to me. That thing. Your source...
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>>681552964
>ARR=DT>SB
I can't believe you people actually believe this
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>Ilberd has been completely dead since the end of Heavensward.
>Ilberdposting has survived all this time even with the majority of current players joining in Shadowbringers.
>Even newfags come to love Ilberdposting.
Soul.
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>>681552823
It's not that large of a focus point but the shitposting was still about comparing the stories (see Shadowbringers vs Shadowlands)
It makes sense a "revenge" scenario would have WoW's plot be good to oppose it to DT

>>681552913
I'll take your word for it, idk how far the betas actually go in terms of plot though
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>Bakuul Ja Ja
>Zenos
>Ilberd
>Zuraal Ja
>Golbez
Who else should be on the based retard list?
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>>681553072
ARR Gaius
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>>681553043
It's easy when you do literally nothing wrong
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>>681553030
ARR was horrible, I liked the more casual vibe to how the game started.
It also got better after the rework.
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>>681553043
He's that powerful.
Do we have a corsair Ilberd?
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>>681553072
Lahabrea
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>>681553026
microsoft paint
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>>681553072
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>>681553069
Beta goes through everything but the post-raid questline of launch. Launch is all about deposing an evil queen servant of the Void and liberating some robots. Nothing crazy. Next patch is probably about the famous Goblin megacity underground which is funny because it will line up perfectly with the Lala patch.
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>>681553072
HW Pope.
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>>681553163
I am not asking.
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>>681553183
What the fuck was this guy's problem?
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>>681552402
I miss Fordola, she could be finding a cure for Arenvald and it wouldve been kino
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>>681553246
Not enough milk
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>>681553246
ran out of milk
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>>681553015
>>681552938
Help me... I just put a pink bow on...
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>>681553246
Inversion of Gaius
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>>681553125
Why only ARR Gaius?
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>>681553015
same but Im doing it because i want to fuck femras
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>>681553293
Because he stopped being retarded after ARR
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>>681550247
Japanese humor! OHHH OHHHH YOOOOO! Raise the roof!
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My lodestone portrait will never update
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>>681553138
Pre-revamp ARR > DT unironically. The world building and plot were immensely better and you got to kill stuff between errands way more often.
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>>681553230
im sorry
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REMINDER THAT THE DT WRITER RAN A THEATER COMPANY AND WROTE STAGEPLAYS BEFORE GOING BANKRUPT
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EHHHHHH?????????? THE GIRL DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO COOK???????? PLEASE KILL ME NOW IM SO SORRY
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How would you feel if DT relics are tome dump garbage again?
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>>681553246
As a milk appreciator myself, I'll tell you what it wasn't. Milk.

How can I tell, you ask? Because milk is literally boob juice and that's why I drink so much of it. Seeing as he was a pedo, attracted to flat chests, we can only conclude that the milk wasn't it, and it fact it was probably his own body's subconscious fight to turn him back to good and righteousness.
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>>681553293
>hire GoT actor to voice him
>never use him again and write him out of the garlean story of endwalker
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>>681553348
I mean the garlean empire made sense back then.
You're this super advanced civilization while these tribes are constantly meddling with fucked up demi gods that can destroy the world on a whim if anything goes wrong, why would you gamble your existence on them doing the right job and containing these things?
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>>681553246
inferiority complex
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the wuk lamat instance is kinda based. Feels like a musou mowing guys down
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>mexico vacation ruined for shitty rehash cyberpunk ghost story #4
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>>681553254
she was supposed to be on close to zenos in power and the wol and now she just pushes around arenvald
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>>681553450
I only judge a work on its own merits devoid of anything else the writer has done or said
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>>681553468
were getting field expeditions back so there not gonna be
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>>681553468
Validated I guess? I expect DT to be a complete and utter dumpsterfire and so far I've been correct.
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>>681552650
Thank you for your valuable input
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>Twitch won't accept my secondary e-mail for some reason and fuck giving them my main
>fuck giving them my phone number

Guess no poop mount for me.
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>>681550082
I would play it, Mihoyo makes enough money to not sell out to Blackrock.
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>>681553284
And a dress with a short skirt... oh no...
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>>681553503
Yeah but he was making deals with an obviously evil space lich. He was a retard.
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>>681553516
>based
she ate some tacos and learned the power of friendship
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>>681553450
explains a lot actually
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>>681553503
>Oh no, bees have stingers and they can sting me
>Let's go ahead and poke this beehive
>Poke poke poke poke poke AAAAAAAAHH HELP IM BEING STUNG BY BEES HOW COULD THEY DO THIS TO ME
Nah.
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>>681552402
>>681553254
>>681553532
I never want to see her again unless it's using her soul to power arenvald's robot legs. Our boy got crippled for that cunt's character development and I will not stand for it.
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>>681543239
I read this in her voice.
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>>681550086
I'd rather just play Reaper
At least it shares gear with Dragoon too, I love Dragoon
I love Ninja but Viper just ain't it
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>>681553421
ARR MSQ had a different philosophy when it was current. You'd get gatekept by levels very often in the MSQ, forcing you to go and find other ways to gain experience, with FATEs being the best way at launch. This stopped the MSQ from being nothing but constant cutscenes, but the problem was that non-MSQ sources of experience were repetitive or had poor gameplay.
Instead of figuring out how to make FATEs and sidequests fun they decided to eventually just switch to the MSQ giving you all the exp you need, resulting in the modern VN-like experience with close to no combat.
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>>681553826
That's cool
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>>681553450
He was probably some pity/nepo hire
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>>681553768
Don't get mad just because they sidelined your favorite character so we could have Wuktrail, you aren't a transphobe, are you anon?
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>>681552335
He warned us about the slop...
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>>681553768
I will never stop seething over retards hyping that shit up as 'handicap representation'. Like hell people want to be confronted with their handicaps, no one, not a single genuinely handicapped person wants to be confronted with MORE of their handicap. Fuck that. Fuck you. Fuck this shitty condition and anything that reminds me of it. He's on a fucking wheelchair instead of a magitech walker IN THE FUCKING DESERT.
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>>681553462
say what you will about the story but its fantastic that they can make a zone feel "nostalgic" with the music alone
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>>681553882
The actual main story quests have never had so little gameplay as DT, it's a regular occurrence in this expansion you literally watch a cutscene and then just click on Wuk Lamat again to start another cutscene in the same location.
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>>681553882
You did Fates, dungeons broke up the pace by doing crafting leves (which had their own storyline and leveling them was much more dynamic because each class had different skills) and doing sidequests was very relevant, which ended up teaching you more about the world and the people in it, so you had things to care about when shit went tits up in the MSQ.
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>>681553934
holy rent free, you're replying to a post about fordola. Not Wuk
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>Worthless cutscene.
>Machinations starts playing.
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>>681552607
thanks anoncito
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>>681554169
>it's a Fracture cutscene>>681554169
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>>681554161
The grummz brain rot is settling in already
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Will the elephant beast tribes help from 90 to 91
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>>681554128
Honestly I think it was flawed, but I much preferred it over the modern padded visual novel shit. There's so many fucking filler quests with zero combat and no meaningful story in modern FFXIV MSQs I would genuinely rather just remove those quests and have to grind FATEs.
The problem is that FATEs haven't been improved at all since ARR, and combat leves, which could have been improved, were completely removed from the game.
People really have forgotten how much ARR tried to actually be an MMO compared to modern expansions. It's why I will always defend it, even if I acknowledge its flaws.
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>>681550082
As much as i respect Hoyo and their craft, I do not think i want to play a MMO from them with how consumer friendly FFXIV is. A paid mmo is stronger than a free one that has to find other sources of revenue that can often cause more frustrations.
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>>681554503
they helped me out
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>>681546013
LOL
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>>681554161
I was pointing out that arenvald got sidelined so someone could add their self insert oc to the game. Get bent you whiney cunt.
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I don't think female Hrothgar work as main characters. They have to make all these human facial expressions to show emotions, but they have the face of a housecat. Housecats don't smile! It would look fucking weird!
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>>681545791
>seven vaganias
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>>681553882
Wish they went back to a 1.0 style where the MSQ was maybe 10~15 hours but you were hard gated by EXP.
Catching up was speedy and the game was varied since you have a variety of ways to gain exp.
Instead pretty much every sauce of EXP aside of the MSQ is pointless aside leveling alt jobs, there was a time people recommended avoiding side quests to save them for alt. classes
Side quests not serve as nothing more than something to clog up your map



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