If it wasn't for Sekiro and Armored Core being some of the best games released in the last ten years, this would make me think that FROM had nothing else to offer. It's incredible how shit this DLC is, to be honest. Endless copy paste. How can one expansion turn me from a meatrider into someone who doesn't want to bother with a Soulslike ever again?
>>682112276It's not very good. I thought for sure this would be the goty winner but it's kinda ass and a rush job. Outside of rereleases the only games that I had basically no major complaints about were Atlus's games and shockingly Stellar Blade, but it's fucking sad that every other major release from this year didn't live up to the hype.Here's hoping Metaphor and Wukong don't suck too.
>>682112276>>682112824tl;dr sucks to suck I guess
How much further can they push the rollslop genre after this? It really felt like they were pushing how much much they could get away with when it came to crazy anime combos and delayed attacks. I can't see them making it even crazier without a lot of pushback.
>>682112824>WukongI hope not too but I'm getting the feeling that it really will. No game that bursts onto the market from a chink studio promising everything with flashy visuals alone is likely to be good.
good fucking lord, sekiro is so boring and dogshit. how the fuck did it gain a reputation as some sort of incredible game, when its combat is somehow fromsofts most shallow attempt yet at creating an action system?
the honeymoon phase will end soon for most and you can tell me im coping or whatever but the whole thing feels like from never wanted to make thisthe game sold beyond expectations and bandai probably begged on their knees for them to scrape something together from the leftovers
>>682114042You're a fag and sekiro is the best game From has made.
>>682114153you're only saying that because you never played Bloodborne
>>682112276I ain't even accessing the DLC cause I get so bored getting to Malenia yet *again*. I ended up buying Lies of P on top of the Elden DLC and I'm having a ton more fun as a mechanical fuckboi right now
>>682114213based and puppetpilled
when will niggers stop making these cringe ER hate threads?You got filteredYou have skill issueYou need to git gut
>>682114153the combat is tailor-made for retards. it's so pathetically shallow as an action game.
>>682114213It really is amazing how LoP dunked over recent FROM. A tight experience, a relatively concise story but with smaller secrets to figure out (that actually make sense), unbelievable worldbuilding with an established IP, incredible atmosphere, inventive weapon system, yep, I'm thinking it was kino.
>>682114393I see people talking like this, and I swear I'm not trying to suck up to FromSoft or anything, but how the fuck do you guys not play Lies of P without the constant feeling that it feels like a cheap souls game? I'm a Bloodborne-fag who loves the aesthetic and I want to like the game, but the gameplay feels fucking terrible.
>>682114328Keep enjoying your rollslop
>>682114540i'm not even defending souls right now lol, is this the full power of sekiro fags? "UHH NO THIS GAME IS ACTUALLY A TOTAL FLUKE AND ALL THEIR OTHER GAMES ARE SHIT BUT THIS IS THE EXCEPTION!!!"
>>682114509Lies is popular because it's one of the few soulslikes that DIDN'T feel cheap
Sekiro was boring parryslop with awful level design and trash combatArmored Core 6 was decent but ultimately plagued by dogshit Yamamoron design choices like no turn rate and assault boost/kick, because Yamamura hates mech games and wouldn't even call AC6 mecha or shooter (it's called action-adventure)Elden Ring is far, FAR better than both
>>682114823thanks for responding to my post by saying nothing you worthless faggot, jfc just off yourself if you reply to everything this meaninglessly
>>682114942I'm not writing you a treatise on why you should like a game you faggot, you clearly have terrible taste anyway
>>682114914>Sekiro was boring parryslop with awful level design and trash combatwhat i dont get is how the fuck did this trick so many people into thinking it was some incredible game? so many people take an "uhhh actually heh i think SEKIRO is the best game heheheh" stance to try and be elitist but it just outs them as bumbling retards who struggle to press L1 at the correct time
Elden Ring is the greatest game ever made, and Shadow of the Erdtree cements it. /v/ was utterly mindbroken by it. Shazam lost.
>>682114986>ask why do people like this game>"people like it">why>uhhh IM not gonna explain why people like it uhhh you just have bad taste if you dont like itthis is the intelligence of the average lies of phaggotry consumer, i guess
>>682115115Ah I see you're just a seething fromspastic
>>682112276> SlopiroYou mean Dark Slops: Press one Button Edition.> Armoured BorezzZZzzzZZZzzZZzzzz
>>682112276sounds like someone got his heart stolen
>>682115091Palworld was better tbqdesu
>>682115029It went for me from, yeah it's an ok little side game, to hating it when the repetition set in during a lot of the combat became boring.The fact that the level design was so shit and you can instantly disengage with any enemy is the cherry on top of dung pieI got all achievement for all From games, including the bullshit grindy multiple NG+ on a single character for DS3, yet Sekiro was the only one that felt tiresome even to complete at NG+3
I loved exploring the world and figuring out how the zones connected. I don't really care about the combat, the zone design was amazing. Same reason King's Field was good. Combat doesn't matter at all. Also, armored core was fucking garbage. Imagine complaining about copy/paste and praising AC6. They literally use the same environments for multiple missions and every single combat encounter is hold down attack until stagger -> melee. I beat AC6 without ever changing equipment after chapter 2 and it was a joke. I never died a single time until the final boss and that was only because his melee attack had a retarded hitbox
>>682112276>Kekiro>being anywhere near the best categorycull all basedleniallsi quit the game half way because the game is so repetitive it makes ubislop seem sane in comparison, no builds, every skill and prosthetic is useless outside of the meta 2, bosses are boring and copypasted throughout the game despite it being quite small in size especially compared to ER, the main story is not really interesting and you need a fucking comic to even make some sense of it in certain parts, L1 to win the game gg.
>>682114042it was the only FromSoft game the normies could finish and combine that with OHMYJAPAN! aesthetic and setting and you got a winning combo for the goyim.Now because it was the only game they could finish they feel like big gaymers and consider their best game.
>>682114647>>682115029You've clearly never played Sekiro if you think everything is just parrying.
>>682115584What does this even mean? Sekiro is the hardest FROM game by far since you can't out level stuff or summon help
>>682115513filtered
>>682115513>i quit the game half way because the game is so repetitiveFunny you say that because I got to the mountain top of giants and haven't played since because the game is just so boring. I actually went back to Sekiro, which is a vastly superior experience.
>>682115884sure you did xister
>>682115659yeah boredom and bad game design is a big filter in the gaming industrythank god that hack didn't ruin ACVI and it was actually the kino we were promisedliterally better in every way than Shitkiro
>>682115163lol wtf is this game just shilled by bots or something? i've never been able to get an actual answer from anyone that loves this game on how it ISN'T just another cheap-feeling clone.
>>682115948Surely I must be lying because I have a differing opinion. If I do manage to finish the game, I will surely not be buying the DLC.
>>682116136its okay not everyone can appreciate the few good remaining games being made.
>>682116028It was fun, polished, and without many of the self-flattering trimmings that FROM tries to pretend are essential. What more do you want?
I admire what they've done with the DLC world design, it's insanely cool conceptually but it doesn't translate perfectly into gameplay.All the problems inherent to open world are still in there and corrupt everything else about ER. All the recycling, zigzagging through empty field, poor enemy placement, fucked pacing, etc. it dilutes everything.It is so formulaic. As I play the game, I can feel the designers trying to fill empty void of open world with a recycled dragon encounter or placing a stupid cookbook at the end of a road. It's all stretched so thin and as a player you consciously start thinking in terms of, what's my reward? I never thought "what's the rewards" or "oh another catacombs" or "oh another dragon" in DS1. It's fucking MMO tier mindset.There are so many baffling ideas in the DLC. And also a LACK of fresh ideas. Outside of the world design, so very little surprises. It's why it feels like they made it on autopilot. They're just a factory churning out souls content now, and I hate that term, content, but that's what it feels like.I want to believe DLC was made by a B team while they're working on a next game but it's probably cope; I desperately want them to make smaller, unconventional, focused games again but they got so popular, Bamco and Kadokawa will force them to continue milking the open world while streamlining everything.ER makes me feel like I'm burned out on the genre/formula but it's not the case. I had more fun with Lies of P and Archthrones mod. I always crave something like Dark Souls 1, I badly want them to head back into the 3D Metroidvania world design style. I hear LOTF2 has the closest world/level design but the gameplay looks atrocious. My only hope is P DLC/sequel improves world/level design.
>>682115286what's annoying as well is that elden ring combat is for some reason lumped in with souls/bloodborne when it's just easily better than any of those games as well. takes the poisebreak mechanic of sekiro (and technically to a lesser extent, bb/ds3), and makes it a core mechanic of how you interact with bosses ... if you choose - or, amps up the status effects of the previous games and makes that a core mechanic if you're building around that. different types of interactions via ashes of war are expanded on greatly from DS3, parrying is a bit more skillful then bloodborne which actually allowed from to implement it into every major boss (i believe?), implemented guard counters for shield builds or literally even just heavy weapons, and with that, even gave us deflect tear in the DLC. oh yeah and jumping, which seems like nothing if you continue playing the game like its DS3, but actually is a significantly better option for dodging a way higher % of attacks than people expect. build variety and combat have literally never been so good.
>>682116197Traveling on a horse in a barren open world, going through copy+paste catacomb #22, and just rolling is around in every encounter doesn't make a great game. The landscape design is nice, I'll give them that
>all these people pretending you just L1 forever in sekirohuh. what made that game in particular garner such a vocal subset of people hating it that clearly never played it? don't like activision? filtered? what a strange phenomenon
>>682116278so you didn't play the game or completely missed the point of it congratz
>>682115635oh right, on occasion, you need to jump to dodge some attacks as well. which the game spells out very loudly for you, thankfully.
>>682116276drivel post, ER balance is dogshit and jump r2 wins every fight
>>682114042I know right. Boggles my mind that this shit game is getting so much praise. I'm starting to think it might be a marketing strategy.
>>682116391I for one know its L1 to win because i actually played it but keep shilling your braindead gameus ACVI chads will play the superior high IQ game
>>682116273The worst is the Cerulean coast with all those meaningless top level gloveworts, I saw endless messages with "dung" all over. Even reddit seems exasperated
>>682115651the hardest? maybe if you have no brain function left and cant pay attention to what attacks your enemy is doing. but if you're capable of jumping to dodge when the game tells you to without panicking, it's not that difficult.
>>682116438it's not at all and anyone who has played it knows it isn't, so i don't get it. what is your goal
>>682115884>funny you say the game was repetitive. because i didnt like elden ring. wow really good point anon! sekiro fags sending their best lol
>>682116437>japan aesthetic = insta win>easy combat that doesn't need too much thinking>the strongest tools given to you right at the start of the game>e-celebs praising it and it won GOTYeasy really the goyim love that shit
>>682116393I've beaten every boss that I can up to where I am (mountaintop of giants), including mohg and radahn, etc. What else am I supposed to do exactly?
>>682116397So basically much more depth than rollslop.
So it's not that Fromsoft has cultists, it's Elden Ring in particular. That makes a lot of things make so much more sense. They're probably zoomies/normie tourists
>>682116402>t.
>>682112276Armored core was so based. Still normieniggers would rather side with copy pasted grassy fields full of nothing. Gay world.
you don't even have to time your parries in Sekiro, you can just spam L1 the entire game and you'll get the parry 90% of the time
>>682116517People like you will be the reason we'll never get another good game from Fromsoft. They'll just keep making open world trash from now on.
>>682112276>if it wasnt for fromsoft releasing some of the best games it would make me think that they had nothing good to offerWow good point OP
Normalfag tells me the DLC is easy, I ask him what his chudtree level is, he says maxed outEvery single fucking time, no shit it's easy if you're playing on easy mode you retarded fucking nigger. When did all these normalfags infest the Souls community?
how old are the people that are so dedicated to being a contrarian that they pretend Sekiro even comes close to Elden Ring
>>682116656If you don't have accurate timing you take posture damage. You can't just mash the deflect button.
>>682116778you're talking about console gamesthe normalfag was you
>>682116862Obviously older than your zoomer ass. I've played all of From's games aside from BB and demons souls. Sekiro is easily much better than elden ring.
>>682116680we just got the best FromSoft game to date, ACVI that wipes its mech arsehole with your weebshit game, cope troon.
>>682114328it's reductionist ludo
>>682116958nta but>i-i am older so that means something>absolutely bottom of the barrel tastepottery
>>682116462>maybe if you have no brain function left and cant pay attention to what attacks your enemy is doingwhy do you think every one considers it the hardest lolsouls games have a dozen ways to circumvent actually playing the game via summons, grinding and overleveling, just sitting behind the fattest shield and armor you can, while sekiro forces you to actually engage with it's rudimentary "parry = win" combat system without letting you cheat around it
>>682116958I have played all of them including DeS and BB and Sekiro is easily the worst outside of DaS2again you're just some bitter gay contrarian
>>682117056Yea sekiro isn't a souls game nor is it an arpg. I don't know why it's brought up when people are discussing souls games. It's totally irrelevant to the discussion.
>>682117024>absolutely bottom of the barrel tasteOk sure.
>>682117056>without telling you to cheat about it>what is picrelwatch how Sekirozooms will not be able to refute this
>>682116637kek. the worst part is the person you're replying to is exactly the type of person that would have a clip like this and then complain about malenia's "bullshit anime moves" that "you cant dodge"
>>682117130Is it because you can't roleplay as your favorite tranime character?
>>682117193Sekirofags have to force themselves in everywhere so they feel like they're specialSekiro fans are basically the equivalent of BotW/TotK fans in their tantrums and autism
>>682116402ER balance is a mixed bag, but, no, jump R2 doesn't trivialize every fight, especially if you're not specifically built for it. jump r2 spamming as an int build with a straight sword isn't going to be ideal.
>>682117203>literally tendie tier mentalityKEK
>>682116869>You can't just mash the deflect button.yes you can I beat the entire game like this without a single NPC getting Dragonrot
>all this gay sekiro hateIs /v/ really this contrarian lmao?
>>682117373no one here is hating it
>>682116568it's geniunely hilarious that every single rebuttal i've gotten to sekiros combat being overhyped has been "UHH WELL UHH ITS NOT ANY MORE COMPLEX THAN SOULSLOP!" like, how do you not see the irony in elitist about sekiro while admitting its on the level of what you're calling slop? yes, the action in souls is generally very basic and simple as well. its a lot less forgivable in whats supposed to be a pure action game though, you fucking retard.
>Sekiro if it was actually great as the zooms and normalfags are trying to claim>it actually filtered normalfags and zooms ( Sekiro fanbase )
>>682117130>worst outside of DaS2So you were filtered
>>682112824Yeah unironically stellar blade is prob my gotythe dlc is great IMHO but the basic enemy reused makes just feel like I'm playing a couple added dungeons to the main game instead of a new areaffvii rebirth was great but Ive warmed on itStellar blade was amazing and I still think about it and the music and bosses and ass
I loved the world design and interconnectedness, and Shadow Keep while itself being disappointing is connected to the overworld in the way that I expected the whole game to be when it was first described by Miyazaki after announcement. Also, I think the Gaols were a lot better than any of the main game caves/catacombs.Everything else about it sucks though. It's crazy that the entire DLC doesn't have a real legacy dungeon. It's all minor ones.
>>682117373A majority of /v/ is underaged and started this series with ds3/elden rang anon
>>682114134I just think the legal issues with Bandai got in the way.
>>682117373>if you don't consider it a masterpiece like i do you're hating it!look all i am saying is that Sekiro has alot of the problems ER does but amplified ten times because of its linear and short size game, it really is poor man's Tenchu.
>>682116391like a good 85% of any combat interaction in sekiro is literally just L1. there are other inputs required, on occasion, of which you'll be quickly alerted about by the game - but its so fucking tiring seeing retards shit up all souls threads larping like some supreme action game enjoyer when the action in their ""pure action game"" is unironically less demanding of you then most of the hard bosses in elden ring, lol
>''Sekiro fans'' are in fact the shazamtroonsmore news at 11
>>682117446Sekiro's combat is not compatible to Elden rings. I was just stating it has more dimensions to it. In Elden Ring you can literally hide out a boss' attacks and strike. In sekiro you have to be the one in the attack 90% of the time. Parry is the main function of the battles, but you also have to side step, jump etc on top of it. Elden Ring is one dimensional.
>>682114134Honeymoon phase for me ended when I beat radahn the weekend of release. Pathetic final boss, literally no ending, etc.When I spent an hour fully exploring abyssal woods, then spent a whole 5 minutes beating the "legacy dungeon" there I already saw the writing on the wall. This DLC was by far their worst yet
>>682117576Why are you brown though?
>>682115651Sekiro is from's easiest game because you don't play as retirement home sonic the hedgehog who's main defensive move is slowly tumbling across the floor while every enemy is an edgy anime OC that teleports behind you and does a 20 hit combo every 5 seconds.
>>682117536but underages love Sekiro because muh japan aesthetic and lore.They hate ER and Souls because its just ''boring'' medieval kino
>>682117516>Shadow Keep while itself being disappointing is connected to the overworldscadutree base is one deadend arenashaman village is a boring deadend with just two random copypasted tree sentinelsscaduview gaius/chalice is a boring deadend with 5 random fragments and an empty landmark toweronly real connection is abysmal woods
>>682112276>fromdrones brag about how much they love the concept of a slow limited player character beating a sonic speed boss and how your every move should be unsafe >they also claim that souls are not about difficulty but about exploring a hostile world>they also hate loot and switching their equipment>miyazaky listens to them and makes a game with forced exploration, speedhacked unstoppable bosses and shitty pointless loot that you never need to check since you know it's some useless shit>drones don't like it???
>>682117576So you're saying Tenchu is better than Sekiro? You must be braindead
>>682117660>if i just say things that means they're true
>>682117627is this the best argument Sekiro fans can come up with? no wonder i consider you a subhuman fanbase that is trying to larp as supreme action game enjoyers but never played an action game before in their lives lmao
>>682112276I will agree that Cerulean Coast, Charo's secret grave and Abbysal woods do feel blatantly unfinished, like they designed the zones and then ran out of time with whatever grander concept they had for them so they just put filler in them.Otherwise, it's a pretty good expansion. Feels almost like a complete game.
>>682117662Abyssal Woods, Rauh, and the fact that you can get in from the church or the front.
>>682116680people like you are the reason we're hardly getting any actually well-designed action games. unfathomable that the average sekirofag actually thinks that L1 with a side of occasionally jumping is some sort of supreme combat system, and a true ultimate challenge unseen in video games before.
>>682117694>Sekiro fans outing themselves as zoomerswell nothing new for me
>Sekiro and BB are From's best gamesyou will never ever see this opinion outside of /v/though there is a much better argument for BB
>>682117705>Make no argument of any kind and just say "Sekiro has problems">Are brownIs this the best you retards can offer?
>>682117660They also love Sekiro because they can mash 1 button and win every fight while Elden Ring requires actual skill.
>>682117753noone pretends sekiro is deep. but unlike elden ring it's honest.
>>682117753Yes, rolling is much better
Considering that 99% of elden ring webms I see posted on /v/ are of absurd cheese builds, the conclusion I come to is that the zoomies hate sekiro so much because you can't just outlevel and 2 shot the bosses.>inb4 fireworks1 second stun 3 times a fight who cares
>>682117790>Elden Ring>Actual skillPeople stunlocked Malenia day one. And elden ring is made an infinitely better game by the new deflect tear.
>>682117814Sekiro is a literal rhythm game where you mash 1 button 90% of the time, my dude
>>682117757I've played Tenchu 1 and 2. They are good games for their time. Sekiro is much better.
>>682117790>elden ring requires skill
>>682117783newsflash pajeetSekiro HAS problemsget it through your nigger skull
>>682117856>yet another musically illiterate troglodyte who doesn't know what a rhythm is
I just can't imagine thinking Sekiro isn't their easiest game since DaS
>>682117902>pajeetUh oh, someone's projecting.
>>682117908I find it so hilarious when they say sekiro is a rhythm game.
>>682112276>How can one expansion turn me from a meatrider into someone who doesn't want to bother with a Soulslike ever again?I assume it filtered you very hard and you're coping since other than the boss difficulty being ratcheted up quite surprisingly high, the DLC is an upgrade on base game ER which was already some of the best shit they made in terms of the Souls "family" of games.
>>682117056>why do you think every one considers it the hardest lolbecause the modern souls audience is predicated on normies being marketed games they're told are incredibly difficult challenges to test their gamerhood or whatever. >souls games have a dozen ways to circumvent actually playing the game via summons, grinding and overleveling, just sitting behind the fattest shield and armor you canyeah, if you grind and overlevel for a boss in an RPG it's actually a lot easier than if you dont, good point anon i hadn't considered that. >while sekiro forces you to actually engage with it's rudimentary "parry = win" combat systemthe reason that i suggest it's not that hard is because.. well.. you've already explained most of the depth in that combat system, unironically. 85% of most combat interactions just has you pressing L1 at the right time. it's really not that difficult.
Sekiro requires zero skill you just hold L1 in more than half of the boss fights and the rest are trivialized by firecrackers.Armored Core 6 is the true skill check FromSoft game that coincidentally filtered these ''hardcore'' Sekiro gamers and they never recovered.
>>682115513>no buildsGood. Not every game needs to have shoehorned faggy RPG mechanics like classes and stats. Action games aren't supposed to have "builds".
What's with all the seething sekiro troons coming out of the woodworks. Did your asses get pounded by SotE so hard you now have to seethe at it 24/7?
>>682117997There's no way you actually believe this
>>682117203>critics are my go-to for whats a good videogameyeah that clarifies a lot about the average sekirofag, lol
>>682118069it's just easy to realize it's a better game
>>682118050I am fine with no builds but Sekiro is trying to be both RPG lite shit game and an action game and it succeeds in neither of those.
>>682118039Played every souls game, beat Armored Core VI three times. Easy enough. ALLMIND was easier than Isshin.
>>682118039>Sekiro requires zero skill you just hold L1 in more than half of the boss fights and the rest are trivialized by firecrackers.I can tell you didn't play it.
>>682117812see >>682117446 and thank you for being as predictable as any given sekiro boss encounter
>>682118069I have zero interest in buying SotE.
>>682116273>le recyclingShut the fuck up retard. You think linear games don't reuse enemies? That every enciunter has new enemy type?Nothing in Elden Ring is recycled to the point of feeling boring or overused, if you don't like some refights you don't actually like the game and you are slogging through it because it's flavour of the month.
>>682118175I did thats why i knowits really funny how majority of supposed Sekiro fans that have played this can only spam either ''you're brown lol'' or ''you didn't play the game'' or ''but its their hardest game chud'' its like they haven't actually played it...
>>682118039AC6 didn't have a single even remotely difficult fight though, what is there to struggle with?
>>682117804just a nothing meaningless statement. also, yeah, sekirofags geniunely do try and argue it's got depth when faced with the fact that 99% of combat encounters play out in exactly the same way.
>>682118261>FirecrackersLol yeah sure try holding L1 and using firecrackers on Owl, Father. See how that turns out.
>>682118069they still can't get over picrel
>>682117908>>682117974>literal best defense is pedantic-faggingi accept your concession.
>>682118331My concession is, keep enjoying your rollslop.
>>682118039>he's so assblasted he now, unprompted, is repeating the exact same shitpost over and overnigger you've said this like 6 times in this thread already
>>682118261Don't @ me again you filthy journalist casual faggot. You're the same return that asked for easy mode on Sekiro
>>682117837this post is so revealing. it's not that you think that sekiro is actually good, you literally just like the sound and feeling of your sword deflecting. i get it man, the game has great sound design, and the parrying feels really good. the fact that you think elden ring is infinitely better for just having that simple combat tool alone shows how little you actually care about anything else though lol
>>682118319Sekiro is the best from soft game in recent memory btw.
>>682116459If the Cerulean Coast had reskinned Scadutree avatars and Gaies, cousin of Gaius, you would esqually throw a fitShadow of the Colossus was right not to pander to you faggots.
>>682118384see >>682117446i accept your concession (again) and thank you for adding to the pile of retards
>>682112824I also thought this DLC would be my GOTY, I guess I forgot about all the issues with Elden Ring base game.So far my GOTY is Granblue Fantasy Relink, which I wasn't expecting. The campaign was a really fun short action game with tons of variety. Felt like Platinum in their prime. The post game missions I played with a friend and those we fun too. Stellar Blade is my #2 pick.
>>682118407>it's not a good game, it's just that the core game mechanic feels really goodWhat the fuck am I even reading
>all this rampant samefaggingbring back ip counter. ac6 was easy i'm actually in awe someone thinks it was hard
>>682118407Elden Ring is EXTREMELY limited by only having one defensive option per build. Before it was either >retarded heavy poise with giant shield and colossal weapon to face tank everything or>Light rolling/med rolling to dodge attacks and attacking within the few openings the boss gave youDeflection gives you agency. It better allows you to deal with faster attacks that are harder to dodge, and rewards sustained timing when blocking multi-hits. It's a great addition. It's not about the sound design, nor the ease of it. It's fine that perfect guarding doesn't do stance damage.
>>682118496There was no concession. I plainly stated how sekiro's combat is more deep than elden ring. You had no rebuttal because that would be impossible to refute. Again, enjoy your rollslop.
>>682118531>if a core mechanic of a game feels good that must mean the entire game is really well designedlol wtf am i even reading?? i feel like i cant be engaging with real humans this shit is so unimaginably retarded
>>682116459>Stone coffin boats all have a max level Glovewort at their pedestals>Retards can't pick up on this and expect something different at every one
>>682116273I was surprised by the low number of new enemies. They really showed off all of the good ones in the DLC trailer
Why is the entire thread filled with people posting discord buzzwords
>>682118592>it's more deep because: sometimes you r1, sometimes you Xloooooooooool
>>682118582>Elden Ring is EXTREMELY limited by only having one defensive option per buildno it's not, you don't understand Elden Ring and you are a complete shitter
>>682118245This. I hate recycling but it's been a part of game development since the 8 bit days.People here argue from a dishonest, rose tinted claim that prior souls games kept their content distinct.
>>682118717That makes it 50% more deep than rolling
>>682118412DMCV rapes it hardACVI rapes it hardOG Tenchu rapes it hard
The shitty elden ring webm poster is in every thread that mentions sekiro to hate on it.
>>682118751While I can agree, I could also counter that if they've been working on the DLC for over 2 years there should be no need to recycle
>>682118397are you okay? did you forget to take your schizo meds today anon? because i don't see a single thing you're apparently assblasted from in my post
>>682118720>You are le bad because you advocate for agency in game designI understand the game better than you do, apparently. Since they added the deflecting hardtear. I guess FromSoftware betrayed you?
>>682118751Reusing assets is fine if it's done well. Afterall, the very first boss of DeS is a reused asset and nobody complains. But I think spending 2 years to make a DLC and 90% of the enemies in it being unthreatening hollow undea- I mean.. uh..shadow.. guys, and like half of the open world bosses being jarring reuses is very offensive. For the size, scope, and time spent making SotE it shouldn't be fromsoft's DLC with the most boss repeats and reused enemies yet. But it is. That's a perfectly valid criticism.
>>682118582>Elden Ring is EXTREMELY limited by only having one defensive option per build.what lol? elden ring has more defensive options than sekiro on literally any character you want. you have the jump with iframes, rolling, bloodhound step if you want, parrying (which actually works on major bosses in this game unlike bloodborne or ds3, part of the reason those games suck ass), and then you have medium shields with a large variety of AoWs to choose from that range from granting you immunity for a second to just increasing the defense of your shield. additionally you have defensive AoWs and incantations - geniunely not even going to read the rest of your post because it was so easy to list off many different examples of defensive options you could have, all on one build, that i think you're probably just fucking retarded for stating the game's defensive options are limited.
>>682118943nta but why do tards keep calling it a DLC when its an expansion?
>>682118753you can also block, parry(with a shield), or even deflect in elden ring, you retard. your entire argument is shattered, and thus, i accept your concession
At the end of the day, elden ring is not a BAD game.. it has some bad design decisions. It is still infinitely better than most DEI infested shit that is being churned out nowadays. But don't compare it's combat to Sekiro or claim it is superior to Sekiro, that's just a false claim.
>rapes kekiro in its difficulty
>>682118956> parrying (which actually works on major bosses in this game unlike bloodborne or ds3You can parry the literal first boss of both of those games
>>682118936wtf are you talking about? you realize that no one shitting on sekiro for deflecting dislikes the mechanic itself, right? in a vacuum it feels really good and is satisfying to do. but it's not *that* good to make an entire game of where that's 90% of all combat interactions.
>>682118828>>682118943Budget was clearly over reaching in map design, given its sheer volume.The new enemy count is reasonable as far as DLC has historically been, it's only noticeable in places like Cerulean which has it's own "identity" but doesn't have anything new.
>>682119035retards don't understand that Sekiro isn't a souls game in the first place but they NEED to feel good, they NEED to feel validated so they keep making these threads to jerk eachother off.
>mfw I still haven't beat RadahnThis is so frustrating because I do no damage to him and the first phase alone takes close to 10min because all I get to do is either roll or block, maybe swing at him occasionally. I do not have the fortitude to grind this fucker.
>>682118582>Elden Ring is EXTREMELY limited by only having one defensive option per build.At its most fundamental level>Dodging>Walking>Running>Crouching attack animations>Charged attacks that lower the body>Jumping>Backstep>Staggering the enemy attackDepending on gear and/or build>Tanking/Poise with armor/endure/stamp/>Mobility attacks like Bloody Helice, Blinkbolt, Bloohound Fang,...>Blocking with various weapons or shields>Blocking with special skills>Parrying>Using attacks with forward momentum that mess up enemy tracking
>>682117997>elden ring is the best because it's the hardest>>>682118039>armored core 6 is the best because it's the hardest>>682118412>sekiro is the best because it's the hardest>>682119061>metal gear rising is the best because it's the hardest"Prepare to Die" marketing ruined a generation of video games.
>>682119035>Sekiro is better than ERthis is an opinion exclusively held by contrarians on /v/
>>682119072yeah, i would also only reply to the least relevant of your entire argument in that post if i were being btfo'd as hard as you. but i will admit, i forgot to add my "most" qualifier, as in "most major bosses". also now that i think about it can you even parry cleric beast more than once?
>>682119092>where that's 90% of all combat interactions.But it's not 90% of all combat interactions and you 100% have not played the game if you think so
>>682119123post your build bro I'll help you out
>>682119146>moving goalposts this hardi am not the one who keeps sucking off Sekiro as the hardest Fromsoft game without having anything to back it up
>>682118936Elden Ring has player agency, Sekiro does not
>>682119190I'm not the person you were arguing with retard, take your meds. >shifts goalposts, changes argument after being proven wrongOf course
>>682119173I've noticed this mindset is also in e-celebs circle, really makes you think..
>>682119206oh god my mind is numbing hard i forget to keep adding my "most" qualifier so that annoying fucking retards like you dont chime in with >erm aktchaully, it's not EVERY combat interaction, heh, have you even played the game?
>>682119146To be fair most people don't really care about difficulty, it's just one zoomer sperging out. He's like 60% of the posts in this thread
>>682119226I called out 4 different games including Sekiro and all you can do is seethe about Sekiro. You need to self-reflect and then kill yourself.
>>682119240thisI like playing Immersive Sims where player choice matters and while obviously ER is not an immersive tier game, it helps that it retains the core of such games and that is player agency.Propably the reason why i like ER so much compared to Sekiro.
>>682119190>>682119294>forget to keep adding my "most" qualifierDo you happen to be autistic?
>>682119272>shifting goalposts lol what goalpost shifted? >changes argumentthe way you're wording this you'd think the point i made in the original post is entirely numb now but you're literally just pedantic-fagging over a throw-away line that wasn't relevant to the argument at all. and so on that basis, i accept your concession.>after being proven wrongbut also you cant even add this part because i'm pretty sure you cant parry cleric beast more than once and idk if thats even a parry
>>682119347>newnigger sperg outkill yourself slop consumer
>this newfriend is still sperging the fuck out about sekiro
>>682119435no but unfortunately if you dont qualify every statement you make, you just get a flood of retards looking to pedantic fag on their edge cases
>>68211922460 vig40 end60 str15 dexCrescent Moon Axe and Fingerprint Shield.
>>682118039a game about lame robots is what filtered people. no one plays gay robot games
>>682112276Same, I used to be a Fromdrone, 400-500 hours into almost every game they released in the past 15 years. Now Im fighting the Fromdrones over how shit this DLC was.I dont ever want more games in the same souls formula, I want more Sekiro or Bloodborne
>>682119548>Crescent Moon Axe on a STR build>Greatshield without a poking weaponweapon is the main issue
>>682119471>newniggerTrying way too hard.
>682119580>least obvious shazamtranny
>>682119580>I want more Sekiro or BloodborneImagine how awesome a sequel to either one of these would be. Too bad we'll get another eldenshart
>>682119663we just got a better game than both of those normie trash gamesArmored Kino mogs them hard.
>>682119625Up until this point I've played without a shield. Had to go get the fingerprint shield for this occasion, so I guess I should swap the weapon also.
>>682119580lol you people are so predictable
>>682117469>Not a single attack thrown until riposte chance.This really doesn't look cool, it's the equivalent of watching a turtle fight.
>>682119635maybe next time play actually challenging games
>>682112276Playing against DLC bosses be like
>>682119715I'll try it if it becomes cheap enough for steam winter sale.
>armored core fans either begrudgingly like or hate ac6>this zoomer is desperately samefagging this thread like ac6 is the best game everwas it your first mecha game or something anon
>>682112276you realize sekiro is a copypaste you retard?
>>682115584Sekiro is by far the hardest game for normies to beat because you can't trivialize everything with summons like in every other souls game you absolute mongoloid
>>682115584>it was the only FromSoft game the normies could finishlmao normies finish souls games super easy since they can just overlevel, use op builds seen on youtube and reddit, summon, and overrely on shields, whereas with sekiro they were stumped as they were forced to learn the game which is why so many souls "veterans" hate it
>>682112276What disappoints me the most is how shit most of the new stuff is. Everyone was excited about the new weapons and things they shown in the trailer and most of it is undertuned and/or unusable when it matters or completely unsatisfying as a reward for what you do (fucking slightly different Radahn armor and weapons as reward for beating the final boss). The whole dlc seems like a case of not enough time and/or last minute changes. That some of the big bosses have no intro, no lines and just die with zero relevance is crazy (like Rellana just standing there when you enter like some random mid-boss).
>>682112276>How can one expansion turn me from a meatrider into someone who doesn't want to bother with a Soulslike ever again?>blizzard rerelease wow 8 times with the same copy past everything>nobody says anything>from does this>WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WHY DO THEY MAKE THE SAME GAME WHY DON'T THEY START MAKING 2 PLATFORMERSkill yourself you fucking underage retarded 24/7 online spoiled covid child, if your entire generation was killed yesterday nobody would care.
>>682119173And yet I see people recommending other people to get the mod that makes ER play more like Sekiro everywhere.
>>682119580the truth is that the base game was boring slop with terrible bosses already, the dlc just went harder on it, and yeah bloodborne and sekiro are the peak of from soft's games but if elden shit is their new direction I doubt we will ever get something like that again as miyazaki seems to have hit the wall
>>682119902What pisses me off about the new weapons is the smithscripts. They are really fucking underwhelming and thei scaling is totally fucked. Also lots of completely nonsensical scaling splits like the putrescent knight axe>str/arc + frostbite, barely scales with arc. arc doesn't increase frostbie at all
>>682112276The DLC was way better than the base game aside from some shitty bosses and the frenzy zone, simply due to the world design being complex. In base ER pretty much every zone was straightforward to get to, here you actually had to think and such a small change did a lot for me.
>>682119946>blizzard rerelease wow 8 times with the same copy past everything>nobody says anythingin what universe do you live because literally everyone hates blizz, even wow playersalso what in the flying fuck does this have to do with fromsoft? are you ok?
>>682118039>Sekiro requires zero skill you just hold L1 in more than half of the boss fights and the rest are trivialized by firecrackers.Lol and you're the faggot shitting up the thread? I cant tell if this is bait or you are that retarded.On your first playthrough you will struggle with spirit emblems, and since you wont reach the spirit emblem upgrades (unless you looked it up like a fag) you will struggle spamming firecrackers whenever you want especially when you have 17 emblems per lifeOnly exception to this is if you genuinely went out of your way to farm credits and do this faggot, proving not only you are a disingenuous faggot since you couldnt beat the game but one ginormous shitter.
>>682119946>nobody says anythingBrother, are you retarded, the most whining about a video game thats ever been done on the internet has been about retail wow
>>682117997>the DLC is an upgrade on base game ERNo it's not. I have enjoyed DLC but aside from "main route" this expansion may feel quite empty.Zones likes>Cerulean cost>Fissure>jagged peak>abyss woods>all finger ruins>HinterlandDon't offer much in terms of content despite being visually stunning and having some important lore bits, gameplay-wise they are disposable and it's huge disappointment since those are the largest areas in SOTE.
>>682119956yeah that's definitely how most people are playing ER man
>>682119801no ranjeet my first mecha was ZoE2
>>682117619Those fucking woods were also my>this can't be what I'm doing right nowmoment of the dlc. And then you think that at least they didn't stretch the "stealth section" (in fucking Elden Ring) but turns out that was only the first part of it. And the pay-off to all that tedium is nothing.
>>682117997>the DLC is an upgrade on base gameIt's really not. There are 3 legacy dungeons and 2 are terrible. The one good one, shadow keep, is not very good either. It's a very pretty DLC and I love some of the bosses, but overall it is a huge downgrade
>682119829>682119832>682120093discord?
>>682119801>NO ONLY MY DISCORD CAN SPAM THESE THREADS 24/7 FR FR ON GODkill yourself
>>682120129My point was that it's a pretty common opinion that Sekiro has better combat than ER and is not exclusive to/v/.Even Miyazaki said the same.
>>682114042skill issue
>>682117997>Its yet another retarded mongoloid saying that you can turn bad game design fun by being betterTotal Fromdrone death
>>682120169how is free content a downgrade? are you unwell?
>>682120298>Even Miyazaki said the sameis this the part where we link a journo article like tendie faggots with the ''ER was inspired by BotW'' ?
>he's now sperging out about a secret discord cabal because people like a different fromsoft game than himYes anon, I like the same dev as you therefore I'm from some secret evil discord made to shit on this dev.
>>682120339>FreeWhat? Nigger the DLC costs almost as much as a full AAA game
>>682120331lmao FromGods rule the industry, go climb rocks in Unfaggot 8: Sad Edition
>682120223Concession accepted.
>>682120339>free...what? It's $40, nearly the price of a full game
>Sekiro fans have to samefag to oblivion otherwise they would get raped hardi wish the IP counter was still here
>>682120375fair point its also 10 times as good as any full priced game
>>682120375>>682120426This is the guy saying elden ring is better than Sekiro. Let that sink in.
>>682120375AAA games cost 40 bucks now??? sweet where can i find them!?
>>682120360I did read that in a interview with Miyazaki about his thoughts on Elden Ring and the future of the series yes
>>682120426and twice as good as Sony Presents Tranny Adventure 5
>>682120463no he is actually one of the retards thinking Gaykiro is a masterpiss
>>682120463yeah its really sad that the great game made by the same guy is better than the other great game made by the same guy
>You gotta play defensively on bosses 95% of the time>Boss gets to do all this cool shit constantly, you yourself can only ever do a simple r1 because theres no window to do anything else>Boss has obvious input reading>You dodge the boss' 2148109 attack string combo, you think its your turn, boss leaves AOE after string, time to roll another 1385235 attacksIf you enjoy pressing roll at the right exact time for dozens of hours, then sure this game might be for you.
>>682120495>if I invent games to be mad about, that makes elden ring's dlc goodI don't care about sony or whatever AAA movieslop you're butthurt about, but I will point out that it's funny you whine about trannies while sucking off a body type a/b game with a tranny final boss and a dlc about homos
>Sekiro fanbase was full of shazamtroons all alongwell glad that we sorted this out but it makes sense
>>682120538woah this guy replaced Sek in Sekiro with Gay! He called it Gaykiro...A real genius lmao
>>682120549Elden ring is an average game, but better than most modern slop.
>>682114042Sekiro is the only From game with real combat that makes you actually fight an opponent by observing and countering what they do.
>>682120590>he still doesn't understand the subtlety of a/b body types for Marika/Radagon, two villains of the highest order
>>682120596Yea, and he misspelled Sekino.
What Sekiro boss filtered this guy that's still sperging the fuck out?
>>682120673Chained Ogre most likely.
>>682120651all of their games are like that if you dont import help
>utterly annihilates ''action game'' ''fans''
>>682115286>you can instantly disengage with any enemyYou can do that in every FROM game. You ever seen a Dark Souls speedrun? Players just run past everything. The point is, your main point is wrong.
>>682120697That was my thought too, dropkicked to death kek
>>682116778>normalfag says sitting is easy>I'm asking what kind of horse dildo he has inside of his asshole>he says he got none>Every single fucking time, no shit it's easy if you're sitting down on easy mode you retarded fucking nigger
>>682120736To be fair the second Ogre fight really shows off how much you're fighting the shit area you fight in rather than the ogre himself given how easy it is.
>>682120651this whole post is a complete lie, impressive.play AC6 if you want such experience.
>>682115584sekiro has a lower completion rate than the others
>>682118262It did though. Don't know why you're such a pathetic shitskin and you have to cope so much.
>>682118245The copy pasted dragon bosses fucking suckAll the new crystal tears are from the furnace golems which might actually be the worst enemy fromsoft has ever designed.
I replayed Sekiro for the first time since release a couple months before Elden Ring DLC came out. Its not even funny how much better of a game Sekiro is, I fucking loved every second of my replay, whereas in the ER DLC I got bored or annoyed many times. It baffles me that there are so many people saying ER is better than Sekiro. Its not even close. ER isnt even the best souls game, its mid as fuck
>>682112276There is absolutely nothing wrong with Shadow of the Erdtree: it's more Elden Ring. So if you liked the base game there is no reason to not like the DLC.The issues is that /v/ simply hates Soulsli- sorry, "rollslop" and Shadow of the Erdtree happens to be the latest game made by the genre's creators so it gets all the flak. By the way, it's pretty funny to watch /v/ pretending to be hardcore Action Game Masters and Schoolars whose philosophy is "GAMEPLAY IS EVERYTHING" when pic related is unironically the board's favorite action franchise, the only one who never gets ANY criticism while everything else is either "sandbags simulators", "UT spam simulators" or "glorified Simon Says".
>>682117619>Abyss woodsIs not it nice that you have to traverse the gigantic area on your own two legs and it has nothing inside of it but a bunch of rats and a couple of enemies from bloodborne? What a waste of time and potential.
>Sekirokeks have ran out of arguments so now they proceed to insert their schizo headcanon out in the open
>>682120913It really didn't. I love ac6 but if you think that game is hard you are an immense shitter
>>682120852>play AC6Easiest FROM game in years. You cycle through weapons until you find a meta and then steam roll the game. Duel Sneedles and Zimmers broke the release day version.
>>682114042all souls combat is shallow
>>682120891>completion rate suddenly matters
>>682120936Most of these people never touched sekiro or got filtered.
>>682121037>uhh sekiro is a game for normalfags>even though less normalfags finish it
>>682120852You are such a sad faggot it actually made me laugh. This entire thread you cannot argue for shit, all your arguments boil down to devaluing others (like you did there), damage controlling, or being a disingenuous faggot. Why are you even wasting your time if you're that moronic. Post your Sekiro hours.
>>682120936Thinking about replaying ER fills me with dread. Especially the DLC because I know I'm going to have to spend 40 minutes travelling around the map to get the skibiti toilet branches.
>>682120913all this Untermensch got filtered by picrel
>>682120938>There is absolutely nothing wrong with Shadow of the Erdtree: it's more Elden Ring. So if you liked the base game there is no reason to not like the DLC.Thats objectively false. Id rate the base game a 9/10 and the DLC a 4/10. The boss design of the DLC was peak cancer. They used every single cheap trick in their books to make the bosses hard for the sake of "muh difficulty" The base game only had a very small amount of bosses that were this much cancer. While every single boss in the DLC is unfun to play against
lemme see those credentials
>>682120936its okay to enjoy a braindead experience anon but don't try to pretend like its objectively better so you don't embarrass yourself next time
>>682112276It's really baffling how every single review before release was shit like "10/10, the greatest thing From Software has ever made, absolutely epic" and it barely took a couple weeks for people really get burnt out.All I can say is that bringing back Radahn for the last act is the single worst storytelling I've ever seen in a From Software game. Really abysmal shit.
>>682121180Is there a better From boss battle? I don't think so.
>>682121025>If i play META the game becomes ... le easy? impossibru!
>>682120715Seriously? She's a joke.
>>682120590i don't know why that retard thought you were a snoy when snoys can actually play from gamesanyway, why don't you go back to one of your cuck porn generals, tendietroon freak?
>>682121082>OP faggot mentions AC and tries to piggyback off it to save Sekiro's skin>Y-YOU ARE SO PATHETIC CHUDyou ignored all my arguments and called me a buzzword, zoom zoom.
>>682121263Wanna know which from game doesn't have stats, levels, and a meta that can trivialize it all?:^)
>>682121263It's a process that every player naturally does as they test the various weapons.
>>682121216>Calls Sekiro braindead>While defending ER's rollslopYou might aswell play a game thats a black screen that turns red every once in a while, and you have to press B when it turns red within 0.5 seconds or you lose.
>>682120938>There is absolutely nothing wrong with Shadow of the Erdtree: it's more Elden Ringthats the exact issue with itwhy am i paying the price of a full game to fight drakes, falling star beast and demi humans from the base game again?half the price and remove all the copy pasted shit I've already beaten 10 times over then it might be a decent DLC.actually imagine dropping into AotA and you having to fight 3 more asylum demons
>>682121180i can't think of a more disappointing boss maybe the Queen from DS2Now that i think about it Sekiro is alot similiar to DS2 in its ''quality'' and is also protected by loud schizo minority.
Lol.
>>682121343>You might aswell play a game thats a black screen that turns red every once in a while, and you have to press B when it turns red within 0.5 seconds or you lose.you have just described sekiro lmao
>>682121374You're a shitter
>>682121374>doesn't post his credentialsSo you did get filtered
Haha.
>>682120938Furnace golems fucking suck. Spend 10 minutes whacking their feet and running away when then start the fireball spam attack.Most of the generic enemies aren't very fun to fight. I only really enjoyed the black knights and fire knights.Overall I actually really like the DLC because I think the world is more fun to traverse than the base game, and I like the NPC quests and bosses (I haven't had much time to play so I haven't fought them all yet,). However a lot of the stuff between the bosses feels like filler.
>>682121374You used a Greatshield build in ERYou shit on Sekiro because you couldnt beat it because you couldnt make a cheese build to trivalize the gameIt all makes sense now
>>682121324For one i know its definitely not Sekiro since that one has levels and a meta that turns the game into even more easy braindead mode.So pray tell which game is it? Kings Field?
>>682120715I thought the other endings had harder bosses than this, I have no idea. I only played the game once
>>682121413>you have just described sekiro lmaoBosses don't 1 shot you in sekiro. That's reserved for rollslop
>>682121328>>682121408>This is what AC will be from now onI hate Yamamura so much
>>682121343please point out where i defended ER in my post thank youanyway i think its time for your discord to go dillate, the hour is getting late is it not?
>>682121137All of those issues are present on the base game; that's why summons were implemented into it, because it was easier than balancing the bosses. Again, the issue isn't Elden Ring itself but people finally deciding that they don't like "rollslop" anymore.
>>682121467>Sekiro since that one has levels and a meta that turns the game into even more easy braindead mode.Go on anon, tell us which boss in sekiro filtered you
The continual amount of praise, criticism, love and hate lined at every single From game every time one of these threads happen proves that they're all great games.
>>682121180Im at work right now if the thread is still alive in maybe 4-5 hours or so ill post my 4 savefiles, pirated the game>>682121316Read the reply chain before you speak moron.
>>682121180it's shit, pal
>>682121540>people have different opinions>therefore everything is greatBased brainlet
>>682121467>Sekiro has a basic level up system like any other RPG making you somewhat stronger but doesnt trivalize bossesSHIT GAME>Elden Ring has numerous cheese builds that allow you to 2shot a boss or block every single attack trivializing the gameGOTY
>>682121467>not Sekiro since that one has levels and a meta that turns the game into even more easy braindead mode.Jesus Christ.
you just spam L1 that's all you do in this game
>>682121454furnace golem is easily the worst encounter from has ever madethere no way anyone play tested that fucker, there's just no way a real human fought that guy and said "yeah this is fine and in fact worth doing 7 more times"
>>682121467>not Sekiro since that one has levels and a meta that turns the game into even more easy braindead mode.
>>682121419I pirated the game tranny and long since then deleted iti don't buy mediocre games hyped up by e-celebs
>>682121540Theres only 2 groups of peopleFormer Fromdrones that realize the souls formula is played out and reached peak annoyance in the ER DLC and there is no hope for a future fun game if this formula continuesFromdrones that are still under peak delusion and refuse to give their favorite gaming studio any criticism whatsoever and will fight anybody who does
>>682121463I have yet to play ER
>>682121592In the context of a narrow group of videogames, yes.
>>682121696There should have never even been a DS3 let alone elden ring. They're beating a dead horse here.
>>682121475You're supposed to play it 3 times to get the true ending where you defeat entropy and become a transcendent being.
Is there any normal person anywhere like me who likes>Demons Souls>Dark Souls>Dark Souls 2>Dark souls 3>Bloodborne>Sekiro>Elden ring>Armored CoreOr do you all just have to hate one thing because you like another thing.
>>682121670>excuses
>>682121801>Or do you all just have to hate one thing because you like another thing.Yes, the way I see it, the 2 years that were spent on making the ER DLC that was pure garbage, couldve been spent on Sekiro 2 or Bloodborne 2
>>682121801I love all of those games except Elden Ring. I don't hate Elden Ring, but I think it's OK and by far the worst of the collection.
>>682121602>>682121650>t. didn't play the game
I didn't bother participating on the AC6 threads (sans posting my AC a couple times) because just giving a glace to the catalog it was clear that the board hated the fuck out of that game (just like when you look at any ER thread): >"It's just another Soulsshit game!">"muh turning speed">"It's just another staggerslop game" >"It doesn't play like Armored Core at all"So watching people here suddenly pretend to like the game and that it is one of From's best titles just reminds me that /v/ runs on contrarianism and shitposting.
>>682121535let me think... its name was Boredom the vicious L1 deflector
>>682121880That isn't a level bar. There are no stats to increase. Keep coping.
>>682121880>turns the game into even more easy braindead mode.
>>682121826>snoy trying to btfo someonekek for once i agree with tendeniggers
>>682121872>Yes, the way I see it, the 2 years that were spent on making the ER DLC that was pure kino, couldve been spent on pure garbagewhat did xer mean by this?
>>682121801I like them all except Sekiroit just didn't click with me and i got bored of it half through the game, it just made me crave an actual Tenchu game and not a cheap knockoff
>>682121627>furnace golem is easily the worst encounter from has ever made Demon of Hatred and pic are worse
>>682121696Pic related took a very spin on the formula back in 2017 but everyone either ignored it or shitposted it to death (I was pretty much the only poster on /v/ praising and defending the game). The second game is just more of the same with new mechanics and much-needed enemy variety; /v/ jumped on its cock ouut of nowhere due to contrarianism (and having a waifu character creator).
>>682121886Most of actual /v like the game but the amount of loud samefagging tendies and shazamfags do ruin the discussion yeah
>>682122037>I like them all except Sekiro>it just didn't click with me and i got bored of it half through the gameSo the one game that Fromsoft made where you couldnt make a cheese build to trivialize the game was the one you didnt like? I dont often say it, but you got unironically filtered
Next soulslike game fromsoft definitely has to add deflecting instead of just rolling. Even just using the deflect tear makes the game amazing. A combination of all their gameplay systems would be their magnum opus
>>682112276Sekiro fucking sucks, it's a QTE game
>>682122079>Most of actual /v like the gameOh yeah, suuure. Just like most of /v/ actually like Elden Ring and the ones shitting on it are just part of a Discord conspiracy.
>>682122078Nioh and Nioh 2 are unjustly hated here and for god knows what reasons. Nioh 2 is an incredible game and while I can't call them soulslikes exactly, they are better than 99% of imitators.
>>682122085I don't even play Fromsoft games with meta or cheese builds though, closest i got was in DS1 with the Black Gwyn Knight Greatsword and the meme stamina shield.I just dislike the repetitiveness of Sekiro without more options to tackle the combat and since i am stealth autist it also triggered me that for the most part you can't actually stealth the game without waiting like a retard for half an hour for the perfect execution since the game is not made for that and its just there... kind of.
>>682122174yes? have you been living under a rock these past 2 years?
>elden ring is the easiest game fromsoft has made>sekiro is the hardest>/v/ loves elden ring, hates sekirohmm...
Imagine shit talking Sekiro's combat while praising Elden Ring. You would have to have an Africa-tier IQ.
>>682122062Shichimen warriors are great, you just need divine confetti and you can deflect all their attacks. Also anti air deathblow makes short work of these guys
>>682122292Elden Ring has good enough combat it's that literally everything else sucks. From designers should be lobotomized for the input buffering and delay though
>>682122175Nioh had normal threads for a long time. Some Niohbro started spamming and making fun of fromdrones and they have been seething ever since.
>682122253>ER is the easiest Fromsoft Game ( despite all the raging anons in the threads across the catalog )>Sekiro is the hardest lolnot even worth a (you)
>>682122386>ER is the easiest Fromsoft GameYes it objectively is. Also learn to greentext newfag
>>682122386Please explain how elden ring is hard
>>682121010No, you're just a dishonest shitskin unfortunately.
>>682122062Both Demon of Hatred and those guys are easy compared to this shitter. Hardest enemy in the game
>>682122365>Nioh had normal threads for a long time. No it didn't. In fact it never had any threads, and I talk as someone who played it on launch on PS4. 2 is the one that got threads but:>Some Niohbro started spamming and making fun of fromdrones and they have been seething ever since.Only this kind of threads: threads aiming at provoke From fans, not to discuss the game (with a few rare ones actually talking about it). Which is my point about why the hatred ER gets and the love Nioh and Armored Core get aren't sincere.I wouldn't be surprised if I'm the only poster on this very thread who genuinely likes all of the games posted above.
>682122427kill yourself gaslightnigger
>>682122460I regret to inform you that I am white and ac6 is easy. It's still a very good game.
>>682122427When you act so hyperbolic its pretty cringe. Anyone being honest could agree that Demons Souls is objectively the easiest game, Then Dark Souls, after that its up for opinion
>>682122438by not using shitter mechanics and options and playing it the normal intended way like the previous FromSoft games brainlet.
>>682122530>I beat it it's so easy I died zero times....please believe meYou're so brown it's sad....
>>682122504Got all endings, tried resurrection mod, the fucker at the senpou temple is now a bossfight and that fucker almost filtered me, took me like 12 tries to kill him w/o kuro's charm
>>682122568I'm not being hyperbolic in the slightest. Not even getting into the cheese builds and obscene optimization of Elden Ring, being able to just leave any boss and go explore the entire rest of the world whenever you want intrinsically makes it the easiest game. You could fight margit at level 50 with 2 grave scythes. There's nothing like this in DeS/DaS1
>>682122518If you like all these games you're a brain damaged retard. Fromslop is beyond shit and even if you like Nioh you are too retarded to actually play it.
>>682121010its not hard compared to other titles but in comparison to Sekiro which its ''fans'' have now latched onto AC6 to make them look better, is in fact hard in comparison.
>>682122704>ac6 is harder than sekirolaughs in dual zimmermans, dual miniguns, etc
I genuinely hope we will NEVER get Sekiro 2 so these creatures can forever seethe, meanwhile we will be getting AC7 and Bloodborne 2 and more FromSoft kino.
>>682122704It's harder than Bloodshit and any souls game though.
>>682122747>laughs in META shitwell not exactly a great argument, besides these got nerfed months ago, though dual miniguns are still viable but not perfect.
>>682122808>if i don't use the tools available to me the game is hardergee you don't saynow guess what game doesn't have meta shit and cheese builds that allow you to trivialize the entire game
>>682122804then why did Kekiro fans screamed and raged across this board when they encountered the very first boss and Balteus? Couldn't L1 out of that huh?
>>682122760What a vile subhuman moron. To think that now this is the average /v/ poster.
>>682121801Objective rating from best to worst>Sekiro>Bloodborne>Dark Souls 1>Demon Souls>Armored Core>Dark Souls 3>Dark Souls 2 SotfS>Elden Ring
>>682121696Clueless post. They changed the formula with elden ring they made it open world, if they stick to the formula everything would've been fine.
>>682122868I was talking about AC6
>>682122848it definitely can't be Sekiro btw
>682122961>objective>most insane definitely not intentional to gather (you) posteverytime
>>682122760Sekiro has had a massive impact on souls design though. The DNA is in all the "hard" bosses you faggots like to boast about beating.
>>682122950average /v poster praises Simon says game like Sekiro because it makes them feel hardcore
>>682119173Sekiro is consistently excellent, but Elden Ring at its best is even better. But Elden Ring has some lower lows imo
>>682123063>still seething this hard
>>682122969overall i'd agree then but only if we exclude obvious META shittery.
>>682120651>Press L1 when enemy attack>Press Jump when enemy big red kanji>Swing a couple times after parrywow so deep
>>682123213>y-you're seething LOL!is this a genuine human reply or a bot?Sekiro has leveling systemSekiro has cheesy mechanics and itemsend of story, play the game you're shilling next time faggot-kun.
This thread brings back very fond memories of launch day threads when everyone started getting to chained ogre lol
>>682123275Thats one more input then elden ring which is just>Press dodge when enemy attack>R1 a couple of times after dodge
>>682123114>Sekiro had a massive impact on souls design>adding wee of stealth and crouch button>adding posture barwew>inb4 Malenia schizo cope
Sekiro fans have never touched a DMC game in their lives huh?
>>682123323Owl made more people seethe thoughever
>>682123163You are the average /v/ poster. Bumping the thread and spouting ragebait for (You)'s. You are the reason this board has gone to shit. Rope yourself.
>>682112276I don't know. How about we start with a list of your mental illnesses then go from there.
>>682123323I beat that retard in 2 triesdon't know why Sekiro ''fans'' have to pretend everyone disliked Sekiro has to be bad at the game
>>682123358Except almost all of these highly dextrous bosses would be easily countered by Wolf, or at least matched. Why wait thirty seconds for an opening when you could be engaged the entire battle? That's what you fags are forgetting. You're supposed to be stimulated by the game every moment, not finding the brief window to exploit. That's what Sekiro did so well and that's what you buildshitters can't understand. The fun happens in the gameplay, not in the endless theorycrafting you copied from some fag online.
God I love FromSoft games.
>>682123449thats a hefty projection anonunlike your vile 3rd world kind i do not shitpost about games i dislike or haven't played, i don't know why browns are so incapable of respecting criticism.
>>682123490Yea anyone with a functioning brain did but you'd have to have been here to know what I mean. Sekiro launch made /v/ fucking furious because they had to learn how to play a different game. There was even more seethe than in this thread
>>682123510>You're supposed to be stimulated by the game every moment>That's what Sekiro did so well and that's what you buildshitters can't understand.thanks for confirming Sekiro fans are ADHD zoomies>The fun happens in the gameplay, not in the endless theorycrafting you copied from some fag online.yes which is why i love Armored Core and dislike Sekiro.It wasn't fun for me, just a chore desu.
>>682123732Still can't beat the eternal seethe ER brings up to this day.
>>682123405No, I'm not a tranny.
>>682116391I remember hitting L1 a lot in that game, did you not?
>>682123593>hefty projection >>3rd world kind >>browns Jesus christ. Not only that but you are literally shitposting and ragebaiting in this thread here and now. Again, rope yourself.
>Exists>Makes soulstrannies seethe
>>682123732This is so true because I was one of them. I initially seethed about Sekiro along with many other anons on the board, I remember it well. Replayed it about a month later to realize how much of a fag I'd been and how great the game actually was
>this singular person has spent like 4 hours same gagging about Sekiro and pressing L1What a strange place this board has become
>>682123821you're already one if've touched Sekiro lad
>>682124046>if've
>>682123880i wish people like you would get the ropethis board would finally get some decent discussions without baits or turdies shitting up the various threads with positive vibes.
>>682123405I've played a few but never really enjoyed the "juggling enemies" type of gameplay.
>>682124012I want to an hero Hiro for removing the ip counter when everyone was asking for IDs on all boards.
>>682124085>If've
>Exists>Makes simonsaystrannies seethe
>>682124046>if'veKEKAROOOOOO
>682124086>682124260Literally went 10 minutes not checking the thread to see this pottery. Irony at its peak. Again, rope yourself.
>he spent hours in this thread waiting on his imaginary single guy that apparently ''hates'' on Sekiro
>>682124141>remove ip counter >shitposting increases Gee wow thanks hiroshimoot
>>682120891>lower completion rate means it's tough and goodCould also mean it's shit and no one enjoys it enough to play through
>>682114252I got filteredI have skill issueI need to git gutnow can we talk about why is the dlc not as good as it should be and why it costs 40$? this was rated better than blood and wine ffs
>>682114042woffa?
>average 2 buzz words per post this thread fromdrones are diabolical
>>682115584top tier bait you got my respects
>>682112276Armored Core 6/10
>>682115584>no one was able to refute the post
>>682118526>>682117492good morning discordsirs
>>682112276greatone less faggot fore to invade
>>682112824This is secretly the real GOTY.
>nothing else to offertry different companies retard
>>682118245wow calm down with the seething there friend
I'm so fucking glad I beat the final boss solo so now I have licence to shit on this dlcAnd why the hell does it feel sp empty? Like fuck all happening in the cerulean coast, abyssal woods and jagged peaks. Sure it looks pretty, but I'm just holding down circle running past the empty level
>>682116273hard agree, it really feels like artificial size. the same amount of content as older games stretched as much as they can to give it "that open world feel" but the content in it doesnt merit an open world
>>682115164>You mean Dark Slops: Press one Button Edition.says the elden ring fan lmaooo
>>682115286hey mark
>>682120793keeeeeeeeeeek
>>682127937>holding down circle to run past the empty levelYou didn't beat the game
>>682116273That's a pretty sooky la la take there bud
When the rot dragon in Caelid didn't mesh well with the small hills behind it, I knew ER was a steaming pile of shit.
>>682116402If you unironically chose to play like that then you deserve the shit experience that you received
>>682117467when dlc
>>682128862soon friend
>>682116656>t. didn't beat sekiro
Scam dlc
>>682117613lol this is cope for thinking beating er bosses somehow gives you more clout than beating sekiro
>>682117790>unironically believing any of this
>>682115286>so shit and you can instantly disengage with any enemyShit take
>>682129720guy in the image is a perfect visual representation of average Sekiro player
>>682116778you are the fucking normie, dumb fucking nigger
>>682118596nta but you're clearly the retard
good thing is that miyasaki stated they won't make giant games like elden ring anymore and go back to smaller scale titles
Replaying des right now and holy fuck, from games used to be really good.
>>682118854Reading your chain you're clearly the dumbest cunt in this this thread
>>682112276I prefer Sekiro and AC but Shadow of the Erdtree is not bad at all, you people are whiny fuckers and have shit taste.Yes, I am not a fan of the bosses and the open world either but it's not a bad game, for fuck's sake.
It really was the Dark Souls 2 of DLCs.
>click on elden ring dlc thread>it's filled with no-life trannies complaining about sekirowhat did i miss?
>>682130432But dark souls 2 dlcs were all 11 out of 10s
>>682130181samefagging won't save you ranjeet
>>682120852AC6 is like an adhd zoomers wet dream, grow the fuck up, get some taste, then immediately kill yourself because you're still retarded after all of that
>>682130624stop with the pretend play anonyou can clearly see from OP's first sentence this was never about Shadow of the Erdtree and was just another where Sekirocasuals can jerk eachother off how strong they are
>>682114134>>682114042Bait.
>>682130692this is true but for SekiroAC6 requires you to think and strategizenow kill yourself shitskin and don't reply to me ever again
>>682121216Such insecure cope it's not even funny. Beat sekiro before taking about it you dumb cunt
>>682112276I don't like the bosses and open world in the DLC, it's a straight downgrade from the base game.Even the lore became this goofy fanfic tier shit, it was a lot of fun to talk about the base game lore, now it feels too silly to take seriously.
>>682117467I would like to try this game. Should I play the previous ones first?
The problem of DLC is an imbalanced placing of critical for main story things.You can draw a line from Belurat towards Shadow Keep and everything left of this line gonna be story-important, everything right - unimportant addition you can skip if you only follow main questline.
>>682130829i reached 60% of Sekiro and had enough of its copypasted gimmicky game design so i uninstalled it, not gonna waste more of my time on cheap Tenchu knock off.
>>682130786If any of these games required you to actually think or strategize then you would have been filtered immediately, you street shitting mongoloid
>>682130943>actually admitting to being a shitterowned
>>682130906if you want to explore more of its past game design and see it change and improve then maybe but each AC is a separate entry ( well there are one or two that are kind of connected ) so you're not missing out on any previous events or re-appearing characters/things, though i guess you could try at least ACV just for actual comparison.
>>682131069>being bored out of my mind from bad game design and a copypasted bosses/enemies means you were filtered
>>682130906No6 is more action than mech sim (makes it digestible to newfags)
>>682131118Nah, let him play vd instead.
>>682130635>not being able to determine samefaggingDon't you get access to plugins in your third world shit hole?
>>682131214>implying the previous entires were a mech sim>calling others newfags
>>682131018man Sekirotrannies are really the nu-Zeldafags of Fromsoft fandom, a worse plague than DS2 contrarians.
>>682120163>ZoE2 Dangerously fucking based
>>682117516I really liked Shadow Keep but I do agree it needed another area as large as the Specimen Storehouse. The holy district also would've been nicer with a new boss instead of the fucking tree spirits
>>6821313383.5 gen with rebalanced and more realistic heat, parts breaking and used parts selling less felt like a mech sim.
>>682131431I pray everyday for ZoE3maybe Konami noticed ACVI's success...
>>682131181>getting filtered so hard you blame game design and enemy reuseKEK, game's best parts are in the last 30% too which makes this even richer
>>682131542the only good part is the Fountainhead palace, unfortunately the final boss is shit and overrated just like Gehrman, Gael was better in this regard.
>>682131427>can't even comprehend that I insulted all fromsoft games in one fell swoopDon't bother leaving a note when you kill yourself, it'll likely be unintelligible
>>682131719Isshin, DoH and Owl Father are the best aspects of the game you enormous retard
>>682112276FILTEREDILTERED
>>682129843Perhaps, but my money is on that it better represents you, chuddy
>682131726>i-i was just pretending to be retardedfix your axe wound xis its leaking again and making you look dumb
>>682127821I hope team nigger goes bankrupt Literally shamelessly ripping off fromsoft
>>682131807all shit except Demon of Hatred.back to preddit.
>>682118245The difference is that a linear game is usually short enough or varied enough in design that you don't notice the recycle even when it's therein Elden Ring it's impossible to ignore beacause 75% of the content is just filler
>>682131945Thanks for the further evidence of your subhuman IQ, but it wasn't necessary
>>682130227Honestly I agree, its not my favorite From game and ranks only slightly higher than DaS2 but to call it a bad game is fucking insane. At worst its a 7/10 which is still well above average, a flawed but overall enjoyable experience, sadly /v/ only deals in extremes.
>>682132051>The difference is that a linear game is usually short enough or varied enough in design that you don't notice the recycle even when it's thereyeah unfortunately Sekiro is very flawed in this regard
>>682132027
>>682116273I honestly just groaned when I saw my first magma wyrm, ulcerated tree spirit and generic dragon in the DLC. It's getting silly at this point. And I'm sure there's gotta be some deathbird hidden away in some corner.
>>682132175>7/10No its not, it's 9.9/10
>682132096imagine being such a loser from 3rd world shithole you have to base your entire personality around defending games on the internet
>>682119548>>682119721If you want to go the deflection route, it takes out his stance pretty handily>Radahn's stomp --> overhead swing down --> swipe, swipe --> deflect and guard counter the second swipe --> roll his ground slam and get a charged heavy in if he's in his first phaseGuard counters are pretty quick even with a str weapon, you've got a handful of openings against him like the one above to perform them
>>682132289reminder magma wyrm is gaping dragon with a sword
>>682132289>didn't find the death birdyou didn't beat the game
>>682132440and death bird is oceiros
>>682115584>>682115513Shitters assmad they couldn't summon LMAO
>>682132343>literacy so poor that it can't even quote me properly >is literally told that I insulted every fromsoft game mentioned>claims I'm defending a gameThis is sickening, I haven't seen someone with this low of an intelligence on here. Neck yourself immediately, if you can even buy rope in whatever shithole you're from
>>682132175>At worst its a 7/10 which is still well above averageThat's the base game, SotE is 9/10 (would've been 10 if they fixed the input delays)
>>682133058holy newniggeryou're the reason why the internet at large and this very board is so unusablei bet you arrived in 2016 huh?
>>682132805>no mention of summons in any of those posts>S-SUMMON CASUALi accept your concessionanyone playing online in FromSoft game is a faggot
Elden Ring just felt like a bit of a slog to play.After beating Sekiro I just hopped straight back to replay Isshin, he's just so fun, a proper final boss that gets you to test all your muscle memory and discipline you built up through the game.Radabeast is just a chore, and that's true for most ER bosses. Either a chore, or a joke if you use the broken shit.
>>682112276ok, still dont care about your normie zoomer lgbtq+ slop
>>682134623game not related?
