Why can't we have a good Lord of the Rings game?
>>683682612Middle-earth™: Shadow of War™
>>683682612We had plenty already. Go play them again.
Because the last time they did one (LoTR: Online) you didn't even attempt to play it
>>683682612Battle for middle-earth was a great game.
>>683682882I have 1,500 hours in Lord of the Rings Online
>>683682612I only played the RotK PC game. I riked it at the time.
>>683682612We will once we mod the niggers out of Tales of the Shire.And also mod all the female Hobbits into Alfie
>>683682882Just started playing LOTRO and aside from the dogshit servers and the way everything is diced up into expansions and quest packs etc it's pretty comfy.
>>683682612Tolkien's shit was never good
Lego lotr
>>683682612the turnbased games on ps2 were goodalso the FIRST lotr bamham game was good
>>683683974Just played that game recently and it was good
>>683683974>Lego lotrStill mad that the completely fucked up Lego Hobbit.
>>683682612ENTER
>>683682612But we do
The best part of LOTR is the world, so games with shitty immersion (LOTRO, Lego games) don't do anything for me. My favorites are War in the North, Third Age, and the RTS games.
Elves really got the short end of stick in the long run huh
aragorn was my role model growing up
>>683682882>oh look, a cave or something, let's check that out>please pay $11.99 for entryGreat game
>>683684513based, one of my favorite games
>>683684513wasn't this game super panned on its release?
Feanor did LITERALLY nothing wrong
>>683685470He was a selfish kinslaying prick
>>683685349It was, but because of how mechanically busted the game actually is, it's adored by speedrunners.
>>683682612I want to fuck Galadriel's hair
>>683684513>sierra entertainment presentsit was a simpler time
>>683685956oh yeah, i forgot about that
>>683685273This anon is making stuff up
>>683683016what made you decide to dump 1.5k hours into LOTRO? is it a good mmo on par with WoW or do you just love middle earth as a setting and was fiending for more of it?
Battle for Middle Earth II, motherfucker.
>>683688020All MMOs feel the same to me so sure, it was on par with WoW in terms of gameplay. The world is most of it, being able to explore different places that I remember from at first the films, and then after I'd read them places and people from the books as wellAlso a decent amount of hours were due to being a lonely teenager discovering a friendly and welcoming roleplaying community
>>683688154mmmmmyes
>>683684274KINOOOOO
>>683688196>All MMOs feel the same to me so sure, it was on par with WoW in terms of gameplayyeah it does to me as well. which is why i asked. also considering the time it released in, i always assume it was just a wow clone but with a lotr paint>The world is most of it, being able to explore different places that I remember from at first the films, and then after I'd read them places and people from the books as wellif i ever was into mmo's i would've loved that game it seems lmfao>Also a decent amount of hours were due to being a lonely teenager discovering a friendly and welcoming roleplaying communitydamn, sorry to hear that dude. i know that feeling all too well
>>683688154i only played skirmish with the AI and i fucking hated how the AI always ignored every unit you had and straight up just ran through your units to go for your buildings. completely immersion breaking. playing on minas tirith and helms deep against 3 hardest AI was kino though. spent a fuckton of hours doing that
bump
Two Towers and Return hack n slash are greatThird Age is good if you like FF10 and don't mind the ridiculous OC Donut SteelBattle for Middle-earth 2 is funShadow of Mordor is good if you won't be autistic about the actual story
How is that Minecraft clone? What is it, Return to Moria?
>>683682612We already did >>683684274
>>683682747he said GOOD
>>683688550>i always assume it was just a wow clone but with a lotr paintThat's a pretty accurate assessment, but it's a really comfy coat of paint. I really liked finding Gollum's cave while doing the Goblin-town group instance, they didn't really need to put it in and there's no reason to go down there beyond exploration
>>683682612I like Lotro :D
The best LOTR game is War of the Ring 2nd Edition
>>683682612Because Peter Jackson showed the world scenes in which LOTR became a Warhammer-flavoured action series with overblown music, and the games tend to follow that example even if they're not strictly adaptations of his films. You find that the setting soon becomes dull when it's repeatedly used as a stage for big battles and nothing else.
>>683682612Because only Western developers make them ;_;
>>683691740kino
>>683684274This game was so fucking amazing.
>>683688154working iso repack plz
>>683688608AI was dogshit and it's a shame because even if it had some basic tactics like massing some troops before attacking skirmish would have been absolutely, 10/10, kino.
>>683691341I hated Shadow of Mordor, my biggest complain was the boring combat. I love all the other games you mentioned though.
>>683692176100%
>>683682612Lotro
vanilla lotro is the books coming to life
>>683692394>>683692341Based
>>683684274The Two Towers was better IMO, it felt more polished and the combat was sharper and more impactful. Return of the King had more content but it was obviously also more rushed and less polished.
>>683684274
>>683682612I liked the gba. Diablo clones even if they were hard as fuck.
>>683693017there were lotr diablo clones? where?
Play Sil-Q.
Dark Souls is better than any LotR game out there. Just ignore the haters.
>>683693068
i remember being a good one for ps2used to play it co-op with my brother i believe
>>683682612BGS is the only studio that is capable of making a LoTR game
>>683693140>fromtroonOpinion automatically discarded
>>683694126Yeah 20 years ago
>>683692876You're 100% right, but return of the king allowed for co-op play which was the bread and butter back then and elevated the entire thing.If The Two Towers had co-op play it would undoubtedly be the better title.
>>683684274Based.
>>683693017The Third Age GBA (an SRPG) is also great.
>>683695638surely the two towers game had co op? that'd be a huge fucking opportunity miss to not have it. the answer's right there in front of their eyes
>>683696203I was disappointed back then.Years went by, I forgot, and Mandela effected myself into getting a cheap copy to play on coop just to realize AGAIN that only RotK had it.
>>683696357wtf. what a huge miss
LoTR War in the North was pretty bad but I enjoyed playing it in coop with a friend on the 360I guess coop (especially splitscreen coop) can elevate even the most mediocre titles
I'd love for another fire emblem type game made with LoTR characters.
>>683698029that's why "it's fun with friends" is a saying lol. you can make looking at a turd drying fun with friends
>>683692341>>683692394>>683692749pure sovl
>>683698341Yes. It's great. Try having friends.
>>683700896
>>683685470What about burning the Teleri ships out of petty spite
>>683682612It’s probably the best adapted IP we have. >Two Towers>War in the North>Shadows of Mordor>3rd AgeI have replayed all of those each decade.
>>683691723Yeah, it's a good game
I liked the jrpglike for the ps2. Spellcasting elf bitch was broken
lotro
>>683702239It was FF10 set in Middle-earth. It was based.The whole opening area through Moria was fantastic.
>>683682612I really want a successor to The Third Age but on steroids keep the turn based combat and all that, go crazy with the level design and a shit ton of customization options
third age tw and fourth age tw are all you need
>>683703115>fourth age twwait, there's a fourth age tw now? what does that entail?
>>683702619The system to gain your powers was better than FF to me. You have to use certain moves a number of times in battle to unlock the power moves.
>>683682612because it doesn't need one
>>683682612The Last Days is legitimately good.Also that lego game.And those two RTS games.And The Return of the King had great gameplay.But it hurts that you have several "paths" to follow. The story will always be slpit up in fragments.
>>683704647>The Last Dayswhat is that? i can't find anything on it
>>683704920M&B: Warband mod.
There are tons of fantastic LOTR games. >LotRO, once the greatest and comfiest MMO of all time. Not as good as it used to be due to bloat and f2p though. But still great>Two Towers / Return of the King on GBA, fantastic diablo-like games with multiple story paths and multiple characters. Very fun multiplayer too>Two Towers / Return of the King gamecube, great archetypal action from the era, ROTK has great co op>Battle For Middle Earth, amazing and unique RTS game with really nice campaigns. 1 is better than 2, but both amazing>War of the Ring, more traditional RTS like Warcraft. But coming out before the movies gives it a unique aesthetic. Very fun Heroes>The Third Age GBA, a turn based strategy game with very unique mechanics involving commanders, unit activations etc. Extremely underrated, the hotseat vs mode was a staple in long car trips for me and my brotherAnd then there are the communuty games>The Last Days, a Mount and Blade mod that is incredible. You can spend hundreds of hours playing this>Third Age Total War, a Medieval 2 mod. One of the greatest Total War mods of all time.And then of course you have the tabletop RPG, The One Ring, which imo is the best tabletop game I've ever played. It is the closest in tone to the books of anything I've ever experienced. I run this for my friends, its incredible
>BFME>BFME2 and RotW>Two towers>RotK>Third Age>bonus: Dac for Medieval 2we had plenty
>>683705850>Battle For Middle Earth, amazing and unique RTS game with really nice campaigns. 1 is better than 2, but both amazingi never understood why people preferred 1 over 2. care to explain? i never touched one only played 2. the very little i saw of 1 gave me the impression that the unit sizes were super small which i don't like in a rts>Third Age Total War, a Medieval 2 mod. One of the greatest Total War mods of all time.Divide and Conquer overtook it a long time ago. it's a fork but it stays more true to the original spirit of the mod. i heard that third age derailed hard
>>683682612Both The Two Towers and Return of The King on PS2 were good games
>>683706275I will admit I haven't touched Medieval 2 in years. So you are probably correct. As for BFME 1 vs 2, I just like that it captures the movies better, and the campaign has that feature where your armies persist which I love. I love the feeling of building up my rohirrim army for Minas Tirith. I love following the plot, having all the big sieges etc. I like having Aragorn Legolas and Gimli on the same faction. Not to say I don't love 2 though. I'm a Glorfindel fan so it was cool to see him finally in something.
>>683706275>i never understood why people preferred 1 over 2. care to explain? i never touched one only played 2. the very little i saw of 1 gave me the impression that the unit sizes were super small which i don't like in a rtsmain story campaignscomfy base buildingrohan and gondor separate factions>Divide and Conquer overtook it a long time ago. it's a fork but it stays more true to the original spirit of the mod. i heard that third age derailed hardOriginal third age was abandoned over 10 years ago.
>>683682612The Dawnless Days™ Soon™
>>683706549>I will admit I haven't touched Medieval 2 in yearsyeah me neither, but i used to keep track of the total war subreddit and it's what i've gathered>As for BFME 1 vs 2, I just like that it captures the movies better, and the campaign has that feature where your armies persist which I love. I love the feeling of building up my rohirrim army for Minas Tirith. I love following the plot, having all the big sieges etc. I like having Aragorn Legolas and Gimli on the same faction.yeah alright fair enough, thanks>I'm a Glorfindel fan so it was cool to see him finally in something.as a fan of the books, i also was hyped seeing glorfindel. liked gloin more though since his level 10 was like a screen sized one shot earthquake move along with his other damaging abilities
>>683682612>people hype up LOTR as THE fantasy movie>finally watch it>low fantasy>everything is destroyed or in decline>not a lot of fantasy tropes>very subdued feeling the whole way throughI really need to understand the hype, i was expecting high fantasy with all the fantasy societies and got like low fantasy with a postapocalyptic vibe. It really is nothing like what i pictured at all.
>>683706559rohan as a separate faction sounds super cool. i always loved shit that explored the less explored areas of lotr. especially wondering how rohans rosters looks like and shit>Original third age was abandoned over 10 years ago.was it fully abandoned?
>>683706886i don't understand people waiting for the lotr mods for attila and shogun 2. 10+ years later and they're not even 10% finished lol
>>683682612Third Age Total War is fine. I wish CK2 or CK3 mods were good. But really, you might as well read the books for the actually good experience of LotR.
>>683684274>>683684513
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WD87HFxkAI
>>683705850>The Third Age GBA, a turn based strategy game with very unique mechanics involving commanders, unit activations etc. Extremely underrated, the hotseat vs mode was a staple in long car trips for me and my brother1v1 me on Helm's Deep bro, Aragorn only, no items.
>>683706275nta but 1 felt way more unique, every faction had a different play style and different weaknesses and strengths, 2 seemed to care more about balancing for multiplayer and the play style feels way more homogenized.
>>683707114It's namely the quality of the narrative and characters that people praise, along with the lovingly crafted setting that paints a world fantastical enough to not be our own but not so much that it's anime. It was never about the spectacle of world shattering powers, that more of the Silmarillion.
>>683707146Yes. DaC team even tried to contact the original mod team in order to get permission for stand alone installation but they couldn't find anyone.
Any Conquest niggas here?
>>683707518yeah alright fair enough. i looked through the factions rosters in bfme1 and i wasn't impressed desu
>>683682612https://youtu.be/4Wl9wKk0RD4?si=Wl9hrXBLFg405OCf
>>683707925oh yeah you're right. i remember reading about that
>>683686065sup gimli
>>683707962dude that game was straight asst. pirated it
why didn't he just roll???
>>683682946that has been impossible to play for almost two decades unless you're a hackerthis whole licensing bullshit is preventing us from just booting up steam and playing bfme and bfmeII online it's so annoying
>>683707962I was so hyped for this game. I remember the pre release forums and contests. I even won some prizes from it. The game was okay but it wasnt amazing like Battlefront 2 was, so it kinds flopped. Still, it has a nice place in my memories. I liked the secret moves like legolas shield sliding
>>683682747isnt that just bamham
>>683709263i heard that bfme2 is available to play online though? like full on online matches vs other people and shit
>>683682612We already have several. You just need to stop being a zoomer faggot.
>>683682747also known as Assassin's Creed: Middle-Earth, very soulless and Ubisoft-like>>683682612the best ones will always be The Two Towers and Return of the King
>>683685148How'd that turn out for you?
>>683682612If a LoTR game was made in the current year half the characters would be black or brown.
>>683709724awesome. two of my best friends asked if they could suck my dick because they adored me so much lmfao
>>683682612One of them literally won Game of the Year
Is there any way to watch the 48 fps versions of the Hobbit nowadays? I don't care if it's good or bad I'm just curious.
>>683707232I'm not waiting for them as such, I just occasionally chck their progress, realize once again that they'll most likely never come out at this rate and get a little sad.Not like we're going to get another good AA+ LOTR game soon anyway
>>683710234which one?
>>683709569no it's not, you gotta find an iso from a shady site, mount with something like demon tools, pray that it launches and works properly (95% of the time it won't and the fix won't be easy to find, hasn't work for my pc since 2017, I played 2014-2016 with no issues) and then you have the honor of playing online on gameranger with exclusively turkish/indian/pakistani players whose english can leave you with permanent linguistic damage (it did for me)
>>683682612The PS2 Two Tower was fucking good
>>683703395It's older than third age, it's for rtw
>>683710798nooooooooooooooo. the last hope for RTS
>>683682612>no one posted The Third Agegame was a good Final Fantasy clone
>>683684274btw these games are preety old fashioned and would be considered bad today, didnt age well, they rely on the one fucking thing that didnt age too badly which is the lotre universe, music etc and being able to play in COOP
>>683710881ah then no thank you. got 0 nostalgia for rtw
>>683710798>>683709263>>683682946What the fuck I was going to post about Battle for Middle Earth and I had no fucking idea it was utterly impossible to play. What a gay fucking world.
>>683682612Unironically Crusader Kings and Mount and Blade mods are the best ones
I remember liking the RTS
>>683711203>>683710907>>683710798>the absolute state of /v/You zoomers are catastrophizing over nothing. The game is as easy to pirate as any other old game. Daemon tools is an image mounting software. You can in fact use any image mounting software, including the one built in to all new Windows OSes. Gameranger is just a way of connecting pcs for old games that have had their services cut off. It works perfectly fine. You can host a game with some /v/iggers just fine and its a lot of fun. I still play it with some old buddies from time to time using this method.
>>683712765i figured, i was just being overdramatic. i used to use daemon tools lite a fuckton back in my pirating days and also a bit of gameranger so i don't see it as much of a hassle
>>683684274This version was better
>>683710946This game had co op? How does that work?
While we're on the subject, how the fuck did they manage to get the shit ass GBA soundchip to do this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e8udWJvOXY
>>683707114
>>683712765I didn't say it's impossible, I said it's inconvenient as hell and can simply not work, which wouldn't be the case if it got a proper port and proper servers in a platform like steam or gog
>>683713184I would have strongly disagreed with this in the context of elden ring, but the fact that they just explicitly made the player character a bad guy in the DLC just to not let us have a better ending has changed my mind.
MTG
>>683713184This just makes me more confused, LOTR is closer to Dark Souls than to classical fantasy. Its pretty much one long trek through a decaying world, there are two large town in the first movie when they go to that bar and the hobbit town. Everything else feels super small and like its peak was 100 years before the main characters arrived, everything is decaying and small (eveb the areas that are supposed to be big). There is more whimsical elements in a 90s fantasy tv show like Hercules that there ever was in the movies.
>>683708706>>683709335It was an EA rush job but I still had tons of fun playing multiplayer in it.
>>683713963Kys faggot
>>683714030I got bored of the books and stopped reading mid way through the twin towers. Half because I'd seen the films, half because I found Tolkiens writing style dry, though I loved the hobbit. I will say the world is much darker in the books. Fellowship reads like a dark fantasy after the hobbits leave the shire. Especially where they find that giant hill with the ghosts of old Kings.
>>683714030>movieNot a sports page, not a magazineBut a book, nigga, a fuckin' book, nigga
>>683714030The LOTR world is becoming more mundane, not degenerating.
>>683714476I meant Two Towers derp.
>>683713164GBA sounds great, I'm tired of hearing people say that. It just had a lot of variance in the library due to the amount of peoplenworking with it.
>>683714548This.Magic is leaving the world and elder races are fading away.
>>683682612Because Tolkien sucks at fantasy
>>683714119i enjoyed the portrayal of the haradrim or easterlings in it.. only reason i pirated it. just to see more of the lotr world
>>683714476I can understand that if you, as you said, have watched the movies already. But to read the books as your introduction to middle earth was really captivating.
>>683713963Kill yourself JotC faggot.
>>683714548In the movies every place they go to is decaying or small, the only exception is the start.
>>683714476>Fellowship reads like a dark fantasy after the hobbits leave the shire. Especially where they find that giant hill with the ghosts of old Kings.the barrow wights? i remember being spooked first time i got to that part
>>683714687>Find reading the books boring >Love the fucking world he created. I know your trolling anon but god damn I just can't get drawn in. Except for that one part where the fellowship all go on about braving the elven border patrol death squads to plow Gladriel and cuck Celeborn.
>>683682612Is that netflix gandalf?
>>683714907Yeah that's it, the barrow wights. I've heard comparions to them walking through a post-apocalyptic wastland and I kind of agree.
>>683682747I feel like those games were about Orcs but stuck in LOTR franchise. It's a shame because they could of got more creative in their own universe.
>>683714903Minas Tirith is huge (although it should have been surrounded by farmlands). Most of the places they visited on their journey had low populations because they were trying to remain hidden. Edoras looks too small in the movie, but this is a limitation of set design, not artistic intent.
>>683715385Haven't seen the last film, but my point stands. For what its supposed to be or at least what its famous for, the LOTR doesn't really seem to have it. Its really more of a fantasy deconstruction, which is weird because its essentially deconstructing it before fantasy even got famous.
>>683715712High magic settings are nonsensical. LOTR has always been low magic. Its just that later on people came through with retarded spectacle takes (since that was their only way of standing out) and they started calling it "high magic" when really it should have been called lowest common denominator.
>>683715712>For what its supposed to be or at least what its famous for, the LOTR doesn't really seem to have it. Its really more of a fantasy deconstructionIt is literally a story of fantasy deconstruction. The setting was conceived as a mythological precursor to real world england, and as such, must have become more mundane over time, and this process is described in the books and, to a lesser degree, depicted in the movies.
>>683705850>Two Towers / Return of the King on GBA, fantastic diablo-like games with multiple story paths and multiple characters. Very fun multiplayer tooMan, Legolas was busted as fuck in TTT after you got going. I remember playing coop with my little bro with me speeding all over the maps at 9000km/h and one shotting everything with arrows that might as well been ballista bolts. He was playing Gimli and only got the crumbs I allowed him to reach.Good times.
>>683682612>BFME>BFME 2>Return of the King game>Lord of the Rings Conquest
>>683683016>I have 1,500 hoursI'm pretty sure I have over 10000 hours in LotRO from when I played it 2010-2020. Wish I could get those hours back. God I fucking hate MMOs now. Fuck Turbine btw.
>every lotr game released in recent years is trash and flops>only upcoming games are an animal crossing ripoff and another MMO from Amazon>the stellar older games get completely ignored by the remaster craze despite some being literally unplayableWhy does it have to be like this
We have
the GBA one is decent
>>683716914Not this one though. Possibly the worst game on the entire system.
>>683716762>Turbinewho are those and what did tehy do?
>>683684274Kino game but I played it on PC, not PS2.
>>683706264I heard the Minecraft mod is pretty comfy.
>>683701082Nothing wrong.
>>683717112LOL this game is so broken. I remember as a kid I got to the end of the game and theres this door that causes the game to crash, but its a door you have to pass through to progress. I actually called the Nintendo hotline on the box and the guy told me some weird obscure trick where you have to open the menu right as you enter the door, then save and reload and it puts you past the door. And then you finish the shitty game like 15 minutes later. What a shit game haha but I'm proud to say I beat it
>>683717889i still can't believe there ever was such a thing as a nintendo hotline. like what kind of person works there?
>>683717169The old studio for LotRO 2008-2015ish I think? Ran the game into the ground and had a complete asshole of a Community Manager named Sapience. >Evidence provided from across the community about the game performance getting worse and worse with each update>CM tells everyone no matter their build it's because of their PC>People start posting specs with lag complains>Lol liars >Works on my machine>Actively shits on the end game raiding and PvMP community >0 interaction between the class developers and the community so you had absolutely retarded balancing changes>CM tells everyone to fuck off and leave the devs alone they don't have to interact with anyone if they don't want to >Made the game "f2p" where to actually contribute to anything you needed to spend money or grind their "turbine point" currency through deeds and shit >Replaced raid/instances with "big battles" which were incredibly dumbed down and fucking horrible to play. Also introduced a new gear system where everything was incredibly dumbed down and generic. >Started recycling cosmetics so no new armor/gear is actually unique Oh well at least retards have fireworks and cosmetic pets now. If the game wasn't based on Lord of the Rings it would've went under a decade ago, but you have retards dumping thousands into it because "I love Tolkien so much!".
>>683718129>If the game wasn't based on Lord of the Rings it would've went under a decade ago, but you have retards dumping thousands into it because "I love Tolkien so much!".I wonder if they'll support Amazon's new mmo the same way. They're probably counting on it after new world playerbase died.
>>683718129damn alright, that sounds horrible. how could they let a CM like that run rampant?>If the game wasn't based on Lord of the Rings it would've went under a decade ago, but you have retards dumping thousands into it because "I love Tolkien so much!".yeah i can't imagine what else kind of person would find a lotr mmo from the wow era alluring otherwise
>>683685470Him slamming his door on Morgoth's face is probably the greatest thing that ever happened in the setting and I can't imagine anything topping that, but he fucked up a LOT. I still like him though, the absolute madlad. I can't blame him for seething so much after his father's murder because Morgoth should never have been allowed to walk free at this point, but it was all downhill from here.>cursed oath, brings his sons into it>start a fight with the Teleri>needs Fingolfin's followers to help him win>gets all the Noldor leaving Aman cursed and doomed>burn the ships out of spite, stranding Fingolfin's host behind>kills an orc army, gets overconfident and ends up having to fight all the Balrog at the same time>dies, won't show up again until the apocalypse>Fingolfin still shows up but is now really angry after the betrayal, Maedros has to hand him the Noldor Kingship to appease him>the Sindar elves hate his sons guts
>>683682747No
Elves>bound to the world until its end>couldn't leave even if they wanted >grow bored and weary even in the bliss of Valinor>basically the beta version of Men>won't take part in the second song of Ainur and have to cope and hope Eru won't forget about them>Rejects of Illuvatar lmaoMen bros, we won so hard
>>683719656>start all the problems>refuse to clean up>fuck off and leave
>>683714476>Fellowship reads like a dark fantasy after the hobbits leave the shireYes, which is why I don't praise Hackson as much, he doesn't capture those parts that well in the film. Although, it's understandable, considering some chapters take decades in between and it's all slower paced. I also liked Phil Dragash audiobook that has sound effects. That one is really spooky when you hear creepy nazgul vails in the distance while hobbits trek trough the swamp.
>>683682747He said good, that game is GREAT
