Why do indies fail to capture the essence, the soul, of classic games despite looking so similar?
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>>683749712because they try to ape old games instead of having to do their best with 90s tech
>>683749712unironically forced soul
>>683749712Trying to mimic "nostalgia aesthetics" instead of genuinely observing elements of what those games did right and making new with what modern tools they have.
>>683749843>>683749883>>683750517>>683751651that gif is a genesis game thoughbeit
>>683749712The limitations and lack there off of the hardware.Old games look the way they do because the limitation of the hardware. Doing the best they can with what they have.While New games mimicing the style are emulating a style without limits. So nothing them make actually looks are feels like the effort was put in. Holding themselves back for worse than what they could do or going much to far and ruining the illusion. Very few indie games can match the aesthetic and feel of an old game making the best of limited hardware.
>>683749712The classics were the best looking games yet made at the time, they were made by the best artists in the industry who had to work within hardware limitations, and they were competing on quality graphics just like companies do now. A hobbyist who can just ship whatever they can muster because of the low barrier to entry of indies on PC is obviously going to be hitting a lower standard. The exceptions take over 5 years to develop or were the type of 2D artists that would've been scooped up by a major company in the 90s.
>>683749712Soul is something that needs to be cultivatedThese people just never had it. Best they can do is imitate. Soul is something that grows within, from sruggles to yearnings. That's an artist, and these people aren't artists, just copy pasters.
>>683749712they can make art, but they can't program physics properly, so the actually gameplay turns out like slop. or, I have this theory that they know what good controls feel like and deliberately fuck them up so they can have>UUGGGGHHHH BUTT MUH GAYM SO HAAAARRRRRDDD LIKE DARK SOLES!
>>683749712Games back tried to inovate and push the medium.Indie games nowadays try to limit the medium
>>683749712Old games were made the way they were because of reasons. Limitations forced creativity. Now creatives are forcing limitations while trying to copy superficial elements in order to fish for nostalgia.
>>683751761>thoughbeitkys zoomer tranny
>>683749712no hardware limitations, not using the same color schemes older games did and try to go for shitty pastel, cocomelon colors, forcing animation when there doesn't need any, i could go on really
Indies can rarely be authentic because technology has advanced so much. They don't have the same limitations. They can make kick-ass graphics that would be impossible for actual retro games to do, but they still use pixels so there's a disconnect.
>>683749843Fpbp /thread
>>683749712They are not good artists in the first place.They use low resolution sprites to hide their glorified doodles as oppose to use every trick in book to extract details out of those pixels like SNES developers used to.Old devs did pixel art. New devs do 16-bit cal arts (((homage))).
>>683749712You simply lack nostalgia for the indies. They can't compete.
>>683749843fippy bippy
Good pixel art is a lost art. Anyone still capable of making sprites and animations of that quality are gainfully employed in more profitable endeavors.
>>683749712Classic games were made by the most talented people in the world, indie games are not.
>>683753620>forcing animation when there doesn't need anyI hate this
>>683749712Because they insist upon copying the most popular indie game instead of doing something creative.
-indies are 1/2 men teams while commercial retros were about a dozen-not working with limitatons but copying previous art style-feature creep, taking retro games and not being able to resist to enhance them with new fatures and animations and stages whereas console games knew from the start they'd have to cheat with the limited ram they had and were forced to do simple straightforward games
>>683749712Probably because "pixel art" was never a thing and has nothing to do with the soul within those games. So copying that is stupid and soulless.
>>683754291literally
>>683753441>zoomer tranny Soiteen from the sharty, thoughever.
Can we just take a few minutes to appreciate how fucking amazing the Shinobi 3 soundtrack was. God damn it was so good.
you can't discredit "programmer art." Teams were so small and stretched back then art was programmed by people who specialized in other design aspects. it's not like they had the man power to flesh out every single asset. the results lead to some real funky and iconic shit.
>>683755824>the alarming start to the boss music>in sync with the boss appearing from the shadowskino
indies believe they have to create "pixelart" on purpose but they don't know that in the golden era, real pixelart was made from digitizing actual drawings from artists to 16 colors grayscale and recoloring by hand
