Is FF14 and the general dubbing scene finally saved?Bring on the strike and kick out all the shit American VAs
That’s not a real tweet.
>>683767891Why are english VAs not treated with the same respect in the industry as Japanese Seiyuus?
>>683767965https://x.com/senabryer/status/1816565253347647981
>>683768049Thanks. I didn’t want to search it manually lol. Well GG, SE. I’m sure going for “authentic” American VAs worked out well for you, eh?
THERE HE ISCASUAL DESTROYER THE BOSS
Good, he literally ruined the Dawntrail MSQ
This is what the tranny sounds like.https://files.catbox.moe/vm8l01.mp4LMAOOOOOOOOO
>>683768016because Americans don't deserve respect
Literally who?
>>683767965It is, he went on strike thinking he works for an American company not knowing Japs have zero tolerance for that shit.
Of an antebellum nature...
>>683768016Because English VA don't treat the job with the same respect Japanese Seiyuus do.
speeeen listun to mee
I'm falling in love again..
>>683768317>real talkHow old is this person?
>>683768016American VAs demand to be treated like celebrities when they are simply just another cog in the machine.I'm not sure if EU VAs have the same problem so i can't speak for them, but from what others have said, they are actors first before being VAs.
>>683768317That this unqualified piece of shit got hired at all is an atrocity to FF14's 10 years of good service.I really fucking hope Kate gets repercussions for trying to crash this games reputation.
>>683768217Really? Never wiped on him. Also never died, but I'm playing WAR so it doesn't really count.
>>683768385Why did they make her sound like a Texan?
>>683767891Does this mean there's a chance we won't have Wuk Lamat in 6.1+?
>>683768385Why is he so cute, bros...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eDi9aJzs4w
>>683767891
>>683768456He is destroying the official forum users.
>>683768460Because you're not playing in Japanese.
>>683768469Nah they'll just hire someone else like they did for every other FFXIV character whose original VA quit/got murdered.
>>683768286This was actually the best take they could get, huh?
>>683768049>>683768317Inshallah
>>683767891>I may be poor soon so nobody on Twitter is allowed to complain about the cost of thingsWhy are trannies like this
>>683768570>Everyone must change their behavior to suit my desireshuh sounds familiar
>>683767891You Fucking Cocksucker! She is saving this Fucking Final Fantasy 14 game and this is how you assholes treat her!?
>>683768337Why would they? Also "English va's" They're American, the real English VAs had respect for the player base and the Japanese and in turn were respected.English Voice actor for Graha doesn't even need the money, he doesn't need the role he said on camera he's only still voicing the character because he knows how much it means to people (a lot of people contacted him to say they enjoyed his performance e.t.c.) He's said he was recording lines for Graha after a long day of filming and his tongue was swollen from lack of moisture but wants to keep voicing the character as long as he can. That's work ethic and the Japs did appreciate it.
>>683768317with any luck, all of those fucks in that union get replaced and they get a dose of reality of how expendable their "talent" is
>>683768530All the Japanese voices sound like nails on a chalkboard to me. Their entire language is really unpleasant to my ears.
>>683768049kekEat shit, dipshit.
>>683768524I found the first boss of Alexandria actually harder, at least before clearing the ddungeon once, second time was way easier once I got it at wasn't tired after 3 days of binging MSQ
>>683768460Anon you never heard a valley girl stereotype before? Shes an attention whoring stacy
SKILL SPEED MONK IS THE FUTURE
>>683768217Is that the teacup boss? Thats the only one that really fucks with me. Because I'm a retard who loses track of the two spinning cups unless they are opposite each other.
>>683768720Oh no please no. HW Monk with Arrow card hurt my hands.
>>683768217>>683768761no, it's the little gremlins running around boss
>>683768720bro I've been staking ss on monk since forever.
>>683768653Funny, that's what DT's English dub sounds like to me. Enjoy your off theme clearly Japanese idol in Texan English then, retard.>>683768646Cool, and what that got us is Kate not hiring the Euro group again after 10 years of good service and instead getting worthless shitty American VA to shit all over that hard work and good reputation.Funny that, huh?
>>683767891TWD boys, TWD
>DT is losing players 25% faster than EW did on SteamWhy aren't people sticking around?
I was hoping Wuk to be more like Moenbryda but a slightly less mature. What the actual fuck happened? Wuk felt like a different character from 6.5 patch. Instead we got this typical Hiroi oblivious to her own home type of character like Zero (and arguably worse)
Familiarize yourself with what a strike is.A strike is:>a suspension of employment on the part of the worker>still a paycheck, you get a predetermined amount of strike pay each week>a demand for negotiations on the part of the worker, in SAG-AFTRA's case a refusal to play ball on terms relating to scalping voice actors' voices, actors' likenesses, etc. for use with AIA strike is not:>legal for your employer to fire you over. And no, your employer firing you for "unrelated reasons" during a time in which you are striking is not a reasonable defense for your employer>officiated with or sanctioned by the employer>supposed to benefit the employer in any wayIn summation:>No, Sena Bryer is not going to get fired for this. This is not happening if Square Enix does not want to get into employment lawsuits within the USA>Sena Bryer has not been fired, nor is she likely to be fired>You are a bootlicker if you think this should be an applicable cause for termination of Sena Bryer's employment, and God have mercy on your soul>Pablo is losing his fucking mind thinking that Sena Bryer going on strike means she was firedYou may now reply >she as many times to my post as you would like.
I'm melding full skill speed, see ya in the pink parses suckers
>>683768765You have a whole 1.5 seconds grandpa Euroboomers in lotro are animation canceling faster than you can press 123
>>683768804Oh, that one is easy as fuck. I might get caught once by a gremlin if I'm not paying attention, but the shit is easy if you're not greeding excessively.
>>683768907So I can just refuse to work and call it a strike and the company is forced to keep paying me?
>>683767891Is Wuk literally going to have a random voice chance in the patches?Can't make this shit up
>B B BRILLIANTO!>B... B... Bukkorosu!Japanese is fucking genius, holy fuck the dub's trash lines here fail that fight miserably.
>>683768998that only works if you have organized and everyone is striking, because they can't fire everyone. one single person they can.
>>683768998No. Get a job and spend some time in the real world so you understand how things work.
>>683768998It varies from country to country, but I'm pretty sure the strike has to be sanctioned by workers union.
>>683768998No, if you refuse to work and aren't in a union you will be fired. If you refuse to work and are in a union, but the union has not agreed on a strike, they will probably agree you should be fired and not object to termination of your employment. If you refuse to work and are in a union, but the union has agreed on a strike, you will be paid out of a strike fund (union dues go largely to the strike fund and/or to a pool for any legal battles against the employer they will undergo). The company has no hand in strike pay.
>>683768893Dishonest media illiterate transphobic traitor chuds are being filtered out
>>683768998There's no way you're over 18 and this dumb
>>683768016It's just a different culture, Japan takes voice acting a lot more serious because they take animation a lot more seriously. Westerners might like a lot of animated stuff but ultimately animation is seen as childish. It's all about life action movies to Americans.
>>683768653laughing at EOPs should be a past time.
>>683768830If anything this will be a massive reminder never to hired American VAs again and look outside of the studio they use for the Britbongs. I've not seen a single person who was on the Media tour be happy with the performances of Dawntrail both voice acting and writing/ story. Even Jesse Cox, the guy who is entire thing about being positive on the story is bored out of his mind playing the expansion MSQ and can't bring himself to say anything positive about the VA work. Previously he gushed non-stop over the performances.Now if you look at official marketing of FF14 dawntrail, to this day there is almost nothing of Wuk Lamat on thereLatest post was about promoting Dawntrail was showcasing Graha Tia (First post is pinned, second post is most recent)https://x.com/FF_XIV_EN
>>683769032Pinklala about to drain that catboy's nuts
>>683769025>first time using american VAs since ARR>every other VA is trash and so is the localization in parts fucking lol
>>683768893I wonder how much of it is the shitty MSQ and how much of it is the content being too hard for all the paint huffers. If I had to guess I'd say it's probably mostly the MSQ.
>>683768016Vidya English VAs deliver amateur performances and demand Hollywood levels of payThey're huge headaches for anyone who has to deal with them
>>683768907Square Enix is not an American company
>>683769032Holy moly what a cursed image, I'm dying
>>683769249Square Enix also likes hiring Americans, doing business in America, and has an American corporate branch.
>>683767891senabros, what the fuck happened?
>>683769189Because Wuk fucking sucks, I wouldn't even be angry if the second part of the story was interesting. Living memory and solution 9 were such massive disappointments that arcadion blows them out of the water.
>>683768831When's your shift over, avatarnigger? Gotta go to bed soon buddy as soon as you wake up you got prime morning threads to show up to!
>>683769336Tell that to the ARR voice actors.
>>683769364sena went on strike with his union bro
>>683769336Nigga, they aren't stalling their patch schedule to accommodate the English va striking. It will release, with or without them. They will find someone else to fill the roll, and just let the vast contract expire. You are retarded
>>683769231No, American vas are headaches are amateur and deliver Hollywood levels of pay.If I were to tell you that the English VA for Zenos and Emet selch were paid less than the American VA for Wuk Lamat would it surprise you? Did it affect their performance at all that they were being paid a small amount?
>>683768907didnt read fag
>>683769189>>683769365The marketing should be mostly about Wuk, it's incredibly dishonest for them to pretend like the MSQ isn't about her.
>>683769226Probably both, it's the 1-2 punch of the shitty story and then the game all of a sudden requiring that you actually pay attention that is turning these players away. YoshiP and most of the team just doesn't seem to understand how "difficulty" works in vidya and that they can't just throw people into the middle of the ocean when they've only bathed in a bathtub for their entire lives.
>>683767891>>683768317WE FUCKING WON!
>>683768907He's obviously not going to get fired. But he might go broke in the meantime and disappear, and we get a replacement VA.One can hope.
Wuk Lamat is staying for the patches only, she won't be in the next expansion for sure, she only will return when all nations of the planet and shards will join in an Alliance like in Endwalker.
>>683769336They built a custom sounds recording studio in Kings Cross London for the FF14 dub. This push for American VAs is coming directly from the English localisation director and that is Kate.
>>683768923won't this make you generate less forbidden chakras compared to someone who melded crit? unless you plan on going full crit/sks and ignoring det/dh.btw the reason why we barely have skill speed on striking chest/legs anymore is because trannurai's cried about their rotation being messed up
>>683769478How is it even hard?
>>683768317>It is, he went on strike thinking he works for an American company not knowing Japs have zero tolerance for that shit.What's more, SAG doesn't really give a shit either. Weeb voiceover people have dipped into non-union parts since the 80s and the union turned a blind eye because the field has no prestige and virtually no one within has any upward mobility (Cranston will always be a fluke). Weebshit gets lumped in with the guys who voice Arby's radio commercials or Super Bowl promo packages only out of circumstance.I hope this goes on long enough that lots of jap companies realize how much budget's been wasted on these parasites and decide never to commission one again.
>>683767891>>683768049>>683768317VAs are completely disposable, what do they plan to accomplish by going on strike?
>>683769428Is that a ...?
>>683769467I completely agree with you, even on the Japanese twitter account there is nothing about Wuk Lamat. It's like they're ashamed of her. https://x.com/ff_xiv_jp?lang=enI'm not making it up, go through their timeline there is nothing about Wuk Lamat on there.
>>683768317>>683769336Doesn't FF14 usually hire british actors in the first place with only this new expansion hiring americans?
>get job voicing female characters due to nepotism>can't even do job because he's a man
>>683768286Ok, I see why people thought this was shit now good to know whack lamar sounds as bad as it looks.
>>683769620I'm pretty sure the strike is related to AI shit.
>>683769423Very convenient of you to ignore Pinklala, curious even...Maybe I'll be nice and use lube the next time I bend you over, you seem to like that
>>683768286It's why I'm never doing that trial again, fight is really fun too which sucks ass I would have to listen to that cutscene again and again even if you turn off voices you still have to watch it. PASS.
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>>683767891imagine being the failure in life that makes this shit
>>683769643they hired americans for ARRand then for multiple reasons (a union strike being one of them, funnily enough) they switched to British VAs from HW onwards to avoid the headaches that come from dealing with americans. Now that they went back to American VAs, they immediately get hit with this shit.
If there's one thing I'll give this expac besides the fun raids, it's how it killed of XIV dubfaggotry for good.
>>683769428Soken mentions it was just expired contracts, unwillingness to renegotiate every single expansion, or inability to permanently or semi-permanently obtain a VA's contract that resulted in the change over to a more favorable studio for HW. https://gamerescape.com/2015/09/01/pax-prime-2015-interview-with-masayoshi-soken/>>683769442>Nigga, they aren't stalling their patch schedule to accommodate the English va striking.Who said they were?>>683769490>But he might go brokePlease re-read the segment about strike pay.>>683769528Not relevant to European workers.>>683769643FFXIV hires primarily English (nationality) and other European voice-actors for the English localization, but Americans were hired under discretion of Kate for some kind of accent authenticity to each game region. British Indians were hired for Radz-at-Han characters in Endwalker for similar reasons.
>>683769783>this female character isn't a female IRL!did they just unfreeze you or something?
>Fromsoftware gets total randoms that don't do video game roles, they always knock it out of the park>Everyone else gets the standard American VA's for literally everything, always sound as robotic as ever.But why? English dub people are subhumans that would listen to anything, why not just get literally anyone else?
>>683768317Nice, something to brighten up my day. Hope the strike takes ages to be over with to ensure he never comes back to the role.
>>683769534I'm doing it on my tanks.
>>683769523kind of a waste when you shove a character like her in the player's face the whole xpac like she's the next grahabut it's for the best at this point
>>683768286I fucking hate XIV but this makes me feel bad for people wanting to enjoy this. What were they thinking when they hired this troon?
>>683769813>Not relevant to European workers.You're going to have to explain that one.
>>683769794In a perfect world, all companies would give up on American VAs and they'd all go work in retail
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>>683768217>JapaneseThe most tryhard thing I've ever seen
>>683768907I'm no expert but I don't think voice actors are hired in the traditional sense. Sure they couldn't throw one out mid project for striking but Dawntrail isn't mid project, it's finished. If they need to hire a new VA somewhere down the line for a new project and the person they had before isn't available for any reason I don't think there's anything stopping them from just getting a new VA. This means it's entirely possible that if Wuk has voiced lines in 7.2 it might just be a new voice actor all together at that point.But then I don't think they were planning to use Wuk much in the story beyond 7.0 anyway because she was effectively removed the same way Lyse was. The devs could leave themselves an out if players like the character but it turns out most people did not.
>>683769872https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci8dIpNcyEY
>>683769638Japanese ff14 forums had a popularity poll for Dawntrail characters, Wuk Lamat wasn't even in the top 10
>>683769873meds
>>683769717You are very obsessed with males sucking your cock I don't even think about that shit, who does that....? Bit weird....You're just dumb and illiterate I guess, unlucky!I wish I could feign idiocy for as long as you do that's a pretty impressive skill to have :^)
>>683769813>Please re-read the segment about strike pay.Can't be that good if it still necessitates getting a new job anyway.
>>683768286Why compare it to the JP voice which also sucks?
>>683769869The European voice-actors don't magically become American or have to work through American talent agencies just because the American actors do. The European actors like Oskarsson or Bramhill work under whatever prior conditions they already have been according to their contract.
As much as I would love for yoshi to drop all the american VAs and swear off ever using another america based talent agency, I don't think anything is going to change. It's not 2015 anymore and there are too many variable to protect the american VAs, chief among them being kate.
>>683767891XIV devs work 2 years in advance, so this means wuk lamat is staying in her own fucking expansion. Thank god.
>>683769938Cause the Japanese voice is 100x times better.
>>683769873Back when Vizex didn't randomize his filenames because it got him so buttblasted that people were checking the catalog to see how much he samefagsDoesn't care btw
>>683769478lol nomiddle of the ocean would be if all normal content was as hard as ultimates or 4th floor savages, in reality dt is only slightly harder than previous expacs but people severely overestimate it because normal encounters in shb/ew were lobotomite-tier and this cultivated a community of people who can't play the game at a basic level after hundreds of hours
>>683768016english voice actors are all worthless nepotism beneficiaries, they should get less than they already do
>>683768486Audibly kek'd
>>683769876There's nothing actually stopping them from replacing Sena Bryer if they're forced to, it's simply not legal to fire her for going on strike and she would still be on the team in whatever capacity was needed when she came back.
I swapped to german and its much much better
>>683769928Getting a new job while on strike makes you a scab, and is the point of strike pay.
>>683769950Oh, you're referring to the strike? If you are yeah I knew it wasn't relevant to the British and European voice actors, also they work under a different agency I don't even know if they work under a Union system in the UK or are freelance. I know they work for an agency that's about it but yes any action by a U.S. voice actor union has no relevance to the Brit VAs.
>>683769984100 times zero is still zero.
>>683768907and yet, despite all that, wuk will never be a well loved character and sena bryer will never be a tolerated voice actorwomp womp
>>683770131Yeah I was referring to the strike.>>683770146Nobody asked.
>>683770143You can say you don't like either and that's fair, but to say they're equivalent outs you as a mad troon.
>>683769910The poll wasn't on the official forums, but on some other site. Not saying it's wrong though, from what little I bothered to look, the official JP forums weren't really huge fans of her either.Either way the point wasn't that Wuk is somehow highly marketable and they should advertise with her since it'd lead to more sales, the point was that hiding her from all the ads is false advertising.
>>683769875The things people seethe about.
>>683770168holy shit ur mad lol
>>683768443The Bri'ish VAs, from all the interviews and shit I've seen, just seem incredibly grateful to be part of something that people love so much. Very humble and very talented.
>>683769995Notice how he stops replying too.
>>683770168Is this guy? I though guy was really pro ai
>>683769859Their fault for making her completely irredeemable. I really wanted to like her but the story made her so horrible I never want to see her again.
>wuktroons actually existi thought it was just a boogeyman wtf
>>683770218Despite everyone praising the dub after HW, I didn't notice anyone giving a shit about the VAs themselves until around EW.
>>683770189I just have no idea what their thought process was of having her be more fucking annoying than lyse and zero combined with double both of their voice lines.
>>683770285This was immediately after a ten minute rant about how wuk lamat was in every cutscene
>>683770285I remember when it was cool to hate zepla
>>683770045He, that's right he because he is male, is not an employee.
>>683768893Steam is not a good metric considering 90% of the playerbase didn't link their account to steam.
>>683769859>>683770272I genuinely wonder, how does wuk fail where graha "succeeds" I found them both equally annoying and expansion ruining.
>>683770143>>683769938Jp doesn't suck. It's average VA at worst. One is a tomboy voice with emotion behind it. Another is a tranny speaking calmly during an emotional scene. (You) are retarded.
>RPR level 100 attack is a follow up that only works when you enshroud from perfect harvestGay.
>>683768217My last run of this dungeon I actually managed to go the whole fight without getting benoggined once.
>>683770351Its always cool to hate on Zepla.
>>683768317>XIV lets NA voice actors back in for 5 minutes>they chimp out and pull this shitlol yoshitpiss what did we learn (again)?
>>683770351It still is, he just keeps dumping his folder whenever he's around and dumps harder if he gets no replies.
>>683768893MSQ is the worst its ever been. Jobs play virtually the same at 100 as they do at 90.
>>683770389For a lot of people G'raha did not, in fact, succeed. But G'raha also had significantly less presence and people STILL complained about how forced, prominent, and clingy he was.
>>683769661All these protests in the VA/Arts community is not going to stop AI at all. They are just wasting their time
>>683768049>this means Wuk Lmao will either be missing entirely or be unvoiced going forwardFucking nice.
>>683770396Don't think they really knew what to do with RPR, bumped into the same problem all the Stormblood and on jobs did where they're just already perfect in expac of introduction.
>>683770396>Game design in xiv is badWhoa!
>>683770314I'm willing to bet DT's msq was an original story hiroi had been wanting to do for a while and just shoehorned it onto xiv. When you think of it as an unrelated jrpg where the player character is wuk lamat, it's not as bad. Sure it still has problems but at least marginalizing the actual player character isn't one of them anymore.
>>683770351nu-/v/ will lap up the shit of any eceleb who espouses their viewpoints, even when it's a grifter who knows everyone hates wuk so she overreacts to everything to farm engagement
>>683769783>>683769926>>683769873I own you, every moment of your life is dedicated to thinking about meYour first thoughts immediately after you wake up are about me and how you'll get angry at me on /v/You scour the archives looking for any trace of me, hoping for some pointless "one up" or "win"Anon, I'm never going away, and you're powerless to do anything
>>683770473He'll be replaced or as you say gone entirely.
>>683770389graha came at us while some players were still high off the crystal exarch phaseand to be fair he had his moments, but i agree the fanboyism was real grating at times and he's one of my least favorite scions
>>683769979>Staying in her own expansionWith all the hate shes no doubt been heavily reduced in the patch quests as well
>>683770426anon who was born out his mom's asshole because her pussy was too busy: Um, what the f*ck, Yoshitpiss? A UNION? A STRIKE? You're gonna let them chimp out like that?
>>683770525nta but I don't see him being replaced. he's a protected class and kate will no doubt fight to keep him in.
>>683770516This is the first time I've made fun of you in like 6 months you autistic sperg lmao.
>>683770508Yeah I bet the DT MSQ stuffed to the fucking gills with FF9 references was his original creation he haphazardly rammed into an unrelated game.
>>683770389because he didn't reallythe crystal exarch did. And note how hands off he is except for the big moments, and how well those moments are set up.G'raha isn't exactly loved except as the exarch; no one really talks about anything g'raha related post 5.3
>>683767891https://all-our-ideas.citizens.is/group/498/
>>683770553Graha only bothers me when he acts like an uwu adoring fan from oblivion. At least Alisaie's fangirlism towards you is less immature and comes from actually being with you, witnessing the cool shit you do first hand, helping her with grandpa in coils,etc She didn't read about you in a book.
>>683770570>heh, im gonna go on strike, pay voice actors what they're fucking worth chud>WAAAAIT NOOOOOO DONT HIRE BRITISH THEATER ACTORS WHO ARE BOTH MORE TALENTED AND CHEAPER THAN ME NOOOOOOOO I DONT WANT TO WORK AT STARBUCKS AGAAAAAAIN!!!!!!!!
>>683770642Yeah, that's pretty much what I'm saying.
>>683768907Maybe he will be gone after 7.2. I haven't seen him say anything about his role as Wuk, so I guess it's just business as usual until he says otherwise.
>Krile 's real parents are named after Chrono Trigger characters>Preservation might be Chrono Cross themed>yfw Lavosfags may unironically win in the end
>>683770389Graha is way worse than Wuk Lamat, at least Wuk lamat is female as long as you don't play in english.
>people still struggling with ValigarmandaJesus fucking christ, it's Zodiark all over again.
>enemy team has like 8 fucking SCH's
>>683769534>the reason why we barely have skill speed on striking chest/legs anymore is because trannurai's cried about their rotation being messed upGo fuck yourself. SB-era SAM was the best era because you could either go balls-deep on crit or forgo crit for SkS/DHit and go fast as fuck. Both were equally viable.
can’t wait for them to pull one of these with Wuk Lamat
>>683770741>Graha is way worse than Wuk Lamatman fuck off
>>683768016Anon, Japanese voice actors are a fucking tremendous industry.They work as PR, idols, real actors and the like. They're heavily celebrated but heavily scrutinized. Seriously, a japanese VA caught in a scandal winds up on fucking live TV to make an apology.The American VA industry is a tiny handful of decent actors surrounded by ugly retards with no vocal range, but tons of mental illness. Meanwhile they spend their time attacking each other (Vic Mignogna situation being a huge one) and creating drama while trying to avoid any accountability for their actions in any aspect.
>>683770695coupled with the fact that alisae actively wants to surpass you while graha just wants to keep fanboying
>>683770583How the game works is the content is on a strict timeline schedule and any interruptions are immediately dealt with by putting t he business first not politics even if politics is a factor business will always come first.I can guarantee you, this is the end of the line for Sena in FFXIV in an official capacity.
>>683770389>How do people not like Wuk but they didn't mind X?Stop and ask yourself whether X took up nearly as much screentime, whether they warped the entire plot around themselves at every stage, whether they were ugly and retarded-looking, whether they had the worst english VA in this game's history, whether they experienced 0 character development and whether they marginalised every other character while also taking credit for (You)r accomplishments. Then you might start to get it.X can be any character you choose.
>>683769189>use g'raha for tons of advertisements>he was in the msq for like 5 minutes
>>683770695>She didn't read about you in a book.Neither did G'raha. He was alongside us as we bitchslapped the Crystal Tower into submission back in ARR. Thats what forms the foundation of his adoration.
>>683770351>t. tranny
if we’re lucky he’ll kill himself
>>683770307It took a while for them to grow into the roles, and honestly the Scions were pretty much background dressing until Shadowbringers anyway. Up until 5.0 they're just characters who are sometimes around to deliver exposition or get something done in the background, so while the performances were pretty good nobody really gave a shit about anyone besides Alphinaud or Estinien until then. Shadowbringers actually let them flex their chops and deliver real performances, so that's when people started noticing the talent.
>>683770651Not true. People talk about Graha standing up to take charge of panicked poos, his Ultima Thule scene is better than Y'Stola and Urianger's and he helped create the cure to tempering alongside Alisaie, Matoya and Beq Lugg.
>>683770314I wouldn't mind her character if the story wasn't 90% about her. If you're gonna focus so much on a single character you better make sure they're interesting enough to carry the whole story. She clearly isn't.>>683770508I feel like it's rare that even RPG main characters take that much fucking focus in the story so I'm not sure if I buy that. It's more like a dating sim with just one route.
>>683770642I mean the IX references are practically nonsensical and could be references to literally any fantasy setting, they feel shoehorned in as way to scream THIS IS A FINAL FANTASY STORY BTW at an unsuspicious audience
>>683770740>wuk lamat dies>everyone has to come together in order to resurrect her so she can beat lavos
>>683770790>Annoying faggot catboy fanboy>Cute genki tomboy in everything but ENDT is shit but JP wuk shits on grahas role in the story.I'd much rather journey with her than some retarded fanboy character designed for the lowest rung of women to wet themselves over because ishikawa is a retarded fujoshi.
>>683770771im one of them hehe
>>683770176I never said or implied they were equivalent, I said both were shit. If I said Five Finger Death Punch is a bad band and compared them to Limp Bizkit to prove my point, it's a dumb fucking post because they're both awful bands. >troonFollow their lead.
>>683770863>I mean the IX references are practically nonsensicalYou're an idiot.
>>683767891>mfw playing DT MSQ>suddenly Zenos appears out of nowhere and decapitates Wuk Lamat in front of everybody>"You're bloody welcome" - he says and winks at the camera
>>683770394>tomboy voiceLol. You have no way of knowing this. It's a generic squeaky Jap voice.
>>683770878No, fuck off. You do not get to be contrarian here.
>>683770942CINEMA
>>683770942I would stand up and clap irl
>>683770942and then anon woke up and heard a knock on the inn room door
>>683770942>"You're bloody welcome" - he says and winks at the cameraGoddamit, anon.You missed such an easy "She failed the test of her reflexes" joke.
>>683770942It was funnier when it was posted two days ago and you didn't even get the setup right.
>>683770942
>>683769538>>683770001I'm not saying that the game is actually HARD, I'm saying that its HARDER. Difficulty is subjective which is why MSQ and AFK warriors are struggling with basic fucking mechanical depth in the first place, the game has never actually forced them to engage which means that they never actually learned how to play.The only way to fix this is if they rebalanced ALL combat content up to the latest patch to actually have a difficult curve and not a difficulty cliff like how it works currently and then sticking to their decision even while the paint huffers cry, stomp their feet or leaves. The devs designed themselves into this fucking corner in the first place, now they (and us) have to live with it unless the devs manages to design their way out of said corner
>>683770837that'll just amplify the shitstorm with faggots doing tributes in-game and on social media.
>>683770820I would agree with you if yoship was still the ruthless micromanager he was a few years ago. I legit think the guy just doesn't give a shit anymore. Koji is gone, soken is making shit like smile, and yoshi is juggling other projects. SE doesn't take xiv seriously.
>>683770810Alisae hasn't done jack shit with her life where as Graham as we know him lived multiple lifetimes and effectively saved our entire universe by ensuring WoL's survival.That red head nigga earned his fanboy time and his adventures, and I'll happily take him on any that they wanna give us.Fuck wuk lamat and fuck DT.
>>683770767I know how to do him its just that I get clipped by fucking mountain for no reason
>>683770942My friend return'th at the hour most required.
>>683770878WUKTRANCE
>>683770740>He doesn't knowLook up lavos's final form.Then look up elpis's theme and compare it to zeal.We are going home lavos bros.
what happened to that ingame raidplan thing?
>>683771035Nobody's going to do in-game tributes for a parasite who throws their own under the bus.
>>683770629
>>683768487the final fantasy character sucked mondo ass, but the rest was totally fine. imagine if this person didn't get into an identity politics cult, and was just a voice actor.
>>683770285Zepla is a treasure
>>683771082It's a tranny so at least half of the western playerbase will be doing their gay campfire vigils in uldah
Alisaie is fucking trash and even as a wooden stilted character with less screen time she was still an annoying jobber cunt.
>>683771050Everyone has saved WoL at some point. You are just being biased.
>>683771036Considering there is Zero marketing of Wuk Lamat on both the English and Japanese Official twitter accounts while there is for the Scions, for Krile and Graha I would say they have had a reality check by the feedback received.This though isn't just feedback it's business they are not going to stop content pipeline to wait for the voice actor to return, they'll find another avenue if that means hiring someone else or retiring the character. Like I said, this isn't about politics, it's business practicality.
>>683770878This faggot is a Wuk Lamat cuck. This faggot actually enjoys being a side character.You're life and existence is moot dude, holy shit kill yourself.
>>683770915You said 100 x 0 is still 0, you retarded faggot.
*shrug*I like alisaie.
>>683767891>work with americans>work is shit and expensive, people constantly clown on your game's localized VO>american VAs go on strike, move to English studio>stellar work, some people even consider it superior to the original audio>FF 8 years and 4 expacs>head of localization is now a DEI hire>brings in a bunch of americans headed by a troon to work in the expansion that's supposed to set up an entire new story saga for the game>work so shit people who had never tried the JP VO switch out of disgust>worst actor in the cast (the tranny) is also the main fucking lead and has by far the most spoken lines, some of which must be delivered with strong emotion; he is utterly incapable of doing this>EN VO becomes a laughingstock again>amerisharts go on strike again almost immediately afterI'd say I hope Wuk Lamat gets recast with a real woman who can act in English, but it would be too little too late.Instead, I'm going to hope there is never another amerishart doing voice work in this game again.And that the DEI hire localizer is punted into the street for this blunder.
>>683771136I've seen every single scion and every single character given this label on /v/What character does /v/ like?
Voice acting is a hobby that earns you some side cash, not a full time career
>>683771136Whoah, you actually capitalized your sentence this time. Obvious shitposter
>>683771068>It's a graha tranny
>>683771074>lavosfags are still here
>>683770767I literally did it first try. Do people actually struggle with it?
>>683770919>dude Alexandria look at Sphene she's literally Garnet but EVIL she loves her country that never did anything bad to her let's play uhhhh tracks from the first fifteen minutes of the game over and overthe stuff feels like complete surface level regurgitation, like someone read a summary of IX and maybe played until evil forest or Lindblum to cram a half assed interpretation of it into a completely different story
>>683771190>some peopleEvery people. The only voice that was acceptable from the OG cast was Admiral Tits McGee.
>>683771161>alphinaud>estiinien>random npcs>jobquest npcs>cute waifusa few.
>>683771231perhaps /v/ is compose of multiple people who think different things>>683771239>wuk tranny throwing stonesabsolutely comical
>>683771264>don't be a fag anon. ARR gaius is peak
i do kinda feel bad for bryer. being able to make SOME money doing something you enjoy doing and then having it taken away sucks ass.no, i don't like them as a person, but i can still empathize
>>683771190Anon, the VA is frankly the least factoring issue with Wuk Lmao.
>>683770942>[It was all Wuk Lamat, I merely watched.]>[Thank the twelve Wuk was here!]>[I tire of this charade.]
>>683771190Accurate run down of events to date and it's shocking they fell back into the trap of ARR. They didn't need to learn this lesson, but apparently they did.
>>683770878This worked weeks ago when most people hadn't done the MSQ. now, it's not going to fly, we know how bad she is no matter what language her voice is in
>>683771169I'm hopefuly DT is a wake up call for SE and they start treating ffxiv like the flagship it is instead of the intern training ground that they think it is, but I'm not gonna hold my breath. It's SE after all.
>>683771326I don't. Garbage people are garbage people and do not deserve sympathy at all.
>>683771161>>683771279And yet none of them lived in a world where WoL died, like Graha did.
>>683771292/v/ is a hivemind like reddit, except instead of blind positivity like reddit it's blind negativity You see contrasting opinions on shitter more than here
>>683768720what about skill speed viper?
>>683771264I meant superior to JP.I don't think anyone prefers ARR EN voices except for the Admiral and maybe Urianger.
>>683771190the damage has been donethere's no redeeming the character after that narrative disasterbetter to bin it and move on to try again with another
>>683768826Is it fun?
>>683770374Is it still a situation where you have to buy the game over again and the steam version is a separate account
>>683771335>Least factoringIt's the most egregious if you play in English. I play in English and I can tolerate a badly written character if the voice performance is amazing. I think of Zenos and some parts of him were so badly written back in SB but his VA was amazing, same with Aymeric in HW, with a bunch of characters where the writing hasn't been great but the voice work has been excellent. This time round, the voice work was so bad it genuinely gave me a headache.
>>683771179>one is 0>one is 100 times better than that>they're the sameWe need to rangeban all Indian, Chinese, and SEA IPs. This is getting ridiculous.
>>683771190>I'm going to hope there is never another amerishart doing voice work in this game again.This is my cope/hope that yoshi p learns from this whole mess and never bother with amerimutt VAs again
>>683771309Fair point, I forgot about Lord Raiden delivering absolution upon the barbarian masses of Eorzea. >It is only right that I should take your realm. For none among you has the power to stop me!Fucking kino.
>>683770516You still typing? Thought you didn't care manWorship me you bored fuck
>>683771190Wuk Lamat being such a bad character has just made the issue so much worse to the point even the normies are shitting on the voice acting. The combo of a shit character and shit voice acting is the 1 -2 punch this game really needed
>post hw aymericholy shit what a basic bitch transformation into a himbo. They even got lucia in the monkey paw crossfire in EW
>>683771326I don't feel bad for entitled misogynists who trample over videogame series for their gross fetish
>>683771449Are you an actual illiterate or what? You literally said they are both 0 and then said you never said they are equivalent.Get reading glasses, fat brown cocksucker.
>>683771394>there's no redeeming the character after that narrative disasterYou do not know how sad it makes me that they completely squandered a boisterous tomboy lion girl this badly.
>>683771326I don't. Taking enjoyment for yourself while clearly not caring for the enjoy of hundreds to thousands to tens of thousands of people who enjoyed this game and it's good VA quality deserves absolutely no sympathy nor empathy.I hope he kills himself.
>>683768016there's a reason why fromsoft hires theater actors from England instead of actual "professional" VAs
>>683771326>themGentlemen, send this tranny enabler to the retardation chamber
>>683768487>wooow such range goes to show the director for ff14 was bad goes to show she is good>90% of the voices were male voices>the 1 female voice was wuk lamat and was complete shiti hope yoshi throws him and kate to the curb
>>683771326Fag, I don't empathise at all. This is a game I'm paying money for, I don't want it to be used as some pet project for a man who thinks he's a woman to feel good about himself. I want the quality I've come to expect and why I've continued to play and pay FFXIV, I'll use Sena's own words to say it best.He shouldn't have auditioned for the role he clearly was not suited to play.
>>683771493i like that they trot him out once an expansion to show that ishgard helped do something inconsequential
>>683770663>Chrono Trigger in second placeThis board is beyond retarded
>>683768049>Give the most subpar performance in a well known game>No one wants to hire youWeird how that works.
>>683770516It took you 12 minutes to think of this 'gotcha'? Clearly it annoys the shit out of you. You have anything knocking around in that skull of yours that constitutes as a thought? Maybe you'll find the one nigga that actually sucks your dick constantly so you can feel validated, I know he's been absent recently but keep heart, where there's a retard like you others tend to congregate!
>>683771326>feeling anything for the type of person that would cheer if the roles were reversed you're really naive, huh?
>>683771448It is, but even with no voice or JP/FN/whatever it's still a miserably shitty character.
>>683768385It's hip to fuck...
>>683771520Why does he bear the responsibility of his subpar work and not the voice director that hired him?
>>683771516tomboys can't exist in the year of our lord 2020+4and if they do, they are butchered by writing or the mentally ill who latch onto such a characteri'm truly sorry
>>683771256I forgot to add the EX after Valigarmanda.
>>683771448I remember back in HW I was thinking "I would listen to this guy read off a shopping list and won't complain" in regards to Aymeric's dub voice. Shame he no longer gets voice acting lines.
as long as kate is still on the team, xiv will always be compromised.
>>683768016Americans treat dubbing like a high school project.
>>683771662Because they clearly can't fucking act. Don't get me wrong the voice director is fucking retarded and deaf as well for hiring them in the first place
>>683768830>Enjoy your off theme clearly JapaneseI didn't know brown skin, blonde hair, and anthropomorphic bee features were "clearly Japanese" features. Also the exact nonsensical logic you're employing can be applied to all the clearly European/Indian/Mesoamerican shit being played in Japanese, you stupid nigger.
>>683771475>>683771575Keep going
Post moar pitsqueenspeen!
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2206997513?t=02h51m20s
>>683771662Because he has the subpar voice in the first place and doesn't even try to stay consistent or actually act.
>>683771516I'm with you brother. Wuk is so tainted and ruined that it isn't worth lamenting. We got Femroth models now, just hope for some good side content stories involving them in the future.
>>683771516Tomboys aren't shaped like male highlanders
>>683771709>Kate the pink-haired SJW activist>FFXIV will always be compromisedTalk to Wuk Lamat.
>>683771498>calls me brown after being exposedLet me break it down for you. I'll take time out of my day to educate a peon.>You: The Jap is better than the tranny!>Me: They're both shit.>You: Nuh uh! The Jap is clearly better!>Me: 100 times 0 is still zero.Let's use critical thinking, logic, reasoning, and context clues. You identified two subjects: the Jap and the tranny. The tranny is a 0/10. The Jap is 100 times better than the tranny. 100 TIMES BETTER. But she's still shit, because they tranny is that bad.Are you following along, Rajesh? Do I need to translate into grunts and moans for you?
>>683771761Hey, settle down okay?
>>683768016Look into the type of people who would voice characters from the "golden age" of cartoons back in the 90s and you'll notice similarities to bong VAs doing vidya dubbing today. Namely that some of them have theater experience. Now the type of people doing american VA word are fucking yotubers.
>>683771662I work in a hospital, and if someone grifted their way in and then fucked up, it would absolutely be their responsibility. The person who hired them would get some fallout, of course, but it's not really comparable to how fucked the person who did the deed would be.
>>683771810>Do I need to translate into grunts and moans for you?Yes
>>683771792I'm so demoralized by this bullshit, I don't even want to bother taking your bait. This is a worse squandering than stormblood.
>>683771810If you are saying they are both 0, which you did with the "100 x 0 is still 0" comment, then you did equivalate them.If even now you don't get it then you're hopeless. Don't bother replying, subhuman.
>>683771668Mablu my sweet tiny little Jew.I would happily go bankrupt for you.When's the epic duel between you and Tataru?
>>683769184I have no idea what that abbreviation means but ok.
>>683768286eugh
>>683771818Hello?
>>683771758>Nigga just describes Gyaru and still avoids the other Japanese themesYoure retarded and pathetic. Discussion over.
>>683771810nta but the jap VA for wuk was very good. I feel sorry for her, putting so much effort into a character that ends up being so hated. Not to mention it was her first major role.
>>683771878What does voice acting in a shitty video game have to do with medical care?
>>683771662Because he's a shitty actor. This isn't a XC2 Rex situation.
I could put up with her annoying ass character and terrible voice if she didn't hog up like 90% of the screen time
>>683771915Tomboys are a gay cope
>>683772007Go back a post>Why does he bear the responsibility of his subpar work and not the voice director that hired him?If you fuck up your job, it's your responsibility. That's all I'm saying. Medical care is an extreme example of it.
>>683771810>Do I need to translate into grunts and moans for you?Yes, make a vocaroo and make it sexy as fuck. You slut.
>>683772013Rex's VA was also garbage, on top of the bad VA director.
>>683771662BECAUSE HE JUST DOES OKAY
>>683772020whatever you say, man. at least alisaie is tomboyish still.
>>683771382probably the way to go since viper doesn't give a fuck about burst and can do that more or less when it likes
>>683771326I don't. He ruined something I love and I genuinely hope he dies for it.
Pitsluts are the best
>the first expansion where the legacy devs go hands off and let the new blood take the wheel >it's shit
>>683771326Remember, you're not appealing to thinking people on this board, you're appealing to contrarians.
>>683771231I like Alphinaud, he was likeable but obviously heavily flawed from the outset, then got bitch slapped about as hard as one can be in a way that actually had narrative consequences that shaped an expansion.Thancred didn't really have as much of a foundation for non 1.x players but also mellowed out a lot after the Crystal Braves disaster.
>>683771948I think it means "English Only Player", which is really dumb because he was replying to me and I never once said I play in English, because I don't.
The contrast between this dude in La Noscea and all of Dawn trail amuses me.
>>683772147>It's shit and it tramples over ten years of good service and expectationsI'm impressed just how fast and how bad they fucked everything up.Arcadian must be a fluke or made by older members, or maybe some passionate newbies.
>>683768907Of course he won't get fired, he just won't get hired again
>>683772239Those aren't different things.
>>683771534The voice acting in their games is notoriously bad though.
>>683772216All the writing in DT has no flavor at all. Sure I get it that it's a different continent but it's so fucking boring even down to the item descriptions. Where's all the fish jokes?
>>683772250They absolutely are.
does everyone like the rest of the DT voices?if its only wuk lamat that they hate then maybe it wasnt just a voice direction problem
need femhroth wife
>>683772221I honestly felt like Endwalker started shitting over the past expansions first. There was still enough enjoyable stuff to let it slide, but honestly the Twelve being shit on bummed me out quite a bit.
Patch 7.1: Revenge of Wuk Lamat
I've taken a liking to the spriggan cap for Picto, it's very fitting for obvious reasons
>>683772273it's not though
>>683772291No, they are generally not great
>>683772294absolutamente asqueroso
>>683772147That's funny, really funny. fuck sake
When is the next liveletter. I want to see yoship cry
>>683772291They're almost all ass.Don't comment on things you don't know anything about, idiot.
>>683772291they're meh to good. bakool ja ja stands out as the best. tobli, sphene, cahcuia and otis are all good too imo
>>683772287>Where's all the fish jokes?Koji fox pulled all of them out of his ass and for some reason he didn't tell Kate to maintain his localization style before quitting
>>683772364they're revealing XIV Tactics at gamescom
The damage has been done and Kate is still there, regardless if the troon stays or not.
>>683772291Where non-major NPCs are concerned I don't think they're any worse than they usually are and for major NPCs it's still about par. Wuk is kind of a stand-out but I'm not about to flood my keyboard with tears over it or anything.
>>683768286these are just really shit linesthis is just a really shit setupthe whole thing is written so poorly it would take a knighted actor to make the lines work and even Sir Ian McKellen would break a sweat before he could nail a takeWuk Lamat was set up.
>>683772382They still have good FATE names, I think some of the teams just know what they're doing
>>683772216Did you find the catgirls in the hotspring? Nothing like this in Dawntrail that I've seen yet. No sexiness. Arcadion on the other hand must be made by someone completely different though it's so different to the rest of Dawntrail I don't know how it exists.
>>683767891I didn't even mind Wuk Lamat at first but the fact she got even more screen time after the contest arc AND stole screentime from other characters with the shit icing on the cake of her in the final trial, what the seven hells of fucks were they thinking?
>>683771771>Sphene calling Wuk "Lamatyi"This pisses me off still, fuck off with the cutesy uwu friend name bullshit
>>683772397naw. bigger comebacks have been made. the gameplay part of the game is the best its ever been and they can market the return of ishikawa
>>683772069>the terrible voice actor is entirely blameless for his terrible voice actingshut up troon
>>683772467There isn't anything like this in any of the other expansions though, not even the adult dancers in Eulmore really compare to how horny ARR is
>>683770583>and kate will no doubt fight to keep him in.Joining a Union Strike is not defensible in cases like this. With it just being the English VA SE won't hesitate to replace that cunt, Kate has no say.
>>683772434The Japanese lines are written significantly better btwnew localization team is terrible
>>683772467it's almost like the odd duck out is actually you, anon. the problem is between the chair and the keyboard
>>683772480I don't know man, it feels like they played FF9 and wanted a Zidane like character without understanding Zidane only worked because he had a cast of characters to bounce off and wasn't the sole focus.
>>683768830>Japanese idol in Texan English then, retard.It was a highlight of the dub. The Japanese version couldn't even bother to make her speak in a Kansai dialect to match.
>>683772538HotSprings in Hinghasi has this as well, it's in a lot of the game.>>683772557Just say what you want to say instead of being passive aggressive.
>>683772525nta but this time it's going to be harder than 'just make the msq good next time'. I get the feeling there are issues with the team itself that need to be addressed, as well as SE's attitude toward xiv in general.
Is there a way to mod wuk lumat's voice to JP while keeping the rest in english? I just finished EW. The VAs for Zero and Golbez were great so it sucks to hear this right after. I don't want to swap to JP this far in...
>>683772558Wuk Lamat bears little or no resemblance to Zidane in personality, intent, or held JobThis expac is most notable as an FF9 reference in the fact that Zidane is nowhere to be found (nor are Amarant, Quina, Freya or Eiko for that matter) and the Dagger analogue is in Garland's chair
>>683768286Holy fuck that sounds TERRIBLE
lil pablito seething tonite
I remember Anons were making memes and bashing those of us that warned Kate was going to be a fucking disaster for the game. I wonder where they are now. The first time she's actually in full control of localization and we get a flood of Amerishart VAs lead by a fucking troon that completely crater the reputation the game has been building for years.
>>683768286So is each response to this post supposed to be a weird didn't-play that's seeing it for the first time or is each response to this post just the same guy every time
>>683772617Thanks for sharing, ChatGPT.
>>683767891>>683768049Wow, one of the only times I support a strike.If it means this faggot stays out of VAing please, continue the strike. 4500 hours in game and this little bitch is the reason I switched from eng to jp dub.
got the lalatard uppity tonighti sleep good
>>683772019I really want to see this for the other expansions, I bet not even Emet-Selch had THIS much dialog relative to the other characters in Shadowbringers
>>683772617Otis is also like a 180 version of Steiner that hardly carries any of the qualities that made him an interesting character
>>683772709Still paid his and Kate's salary
>>683772558
>>683772601Why would a monster bee girl idol from Solution 9 speak in a Japanese specific dialect?Are you stupid?
>>683771936
>>683772669>gets hired>after she believe she's secure in the job position she drops the chameleon disguise to show her true dangerhair selfThey're getting sneakier about it.
>The only reason Hiroi made Koana a co-dawnservant was so Wuk Lamat would be free to join WoL for the 2nd half of the plot I want to strangle this stupid gook and make a theater play out of it
>>683772731Otis is a much more somber Steiner under different circumstances and holds an inverse relationship with Sphene that Steiner did with Garnet (Garnet doesn't want him around at all until he figures out he's the problem, Otis stays away from Sphene and Solution Nine by choice)
>>683772740ok
>>683772667Who
>>683772291The "trying to be spanish" voices are really cheesy and sound fake as hell.t. spic
>>683772769playable latina pelupelu when?
>>683772669She's responsible for the eng casting but hiroi is responsible for the worst msq since SB. Maybe even worse than that.
>>683772291I like the two-heads. Gulool sounds like a tired old man and Bakool sounds like a fiery upstart out of his depth.
>>683772519I do like that you get the option to not do it at least.
>>683772792
>>683772291Bakool Ja Ja is a standout voice, most were kind of mediocre though. I wouldn't say outright bad by any means but a lot of them were voiced with the same performance that a random NPC would give. Koana is a good example, he is one of the better characters and his voice isn't bad but it is generic. Besides Bakool and maybe Gulool Ja Ja and Sphene, no one's voice actively stood out to me as noteworthy like Emet, Zenos, even Fandaniel.Even then, Bakool Ja Ja basically stops existing in the last half so it's arguable if he even counts. This is the first expansion almost ever that doesn't have a major character with a standout voice performance.
>>683772769that's a kid
>>683772291The entire expansion and writing is shit, the troon VA is just the cherry on top of the shit sundae
>>683772821Which is even crazier because judging by the names, they apparently hired actual ESL people to voice the cast. And I don't mean ESL as in the way 4chan uses it, either.
>>683772314I like the salon server cap.
>>683772821Reminds me of how people were calling actual Latin American posters racist for saying Wuk's voice in 6.55 was stereotypical and insulting on the official forums.
>>683772754It got airdropped onto a preexisting region of Mexico, remember? There are Alexandrians as well as descendants of the people that the city spawned on top of living there, like Erenville's mom for example.
>>683772825Hiroi needs to go. It's kinda sad that it took the first tier of a fucking raid series to give people some small bit of excitement. We should all be speculating about where 7.1 is gonna take us but nobody cares or we wait for the Wuk Lamat show to begin again with dread.
>>683772769Man shouldersMan body
>>683772934you're going to pretend you never said any of this if we learn hiroi is writing the raid series
>>683772813>Who
>>683772801yeah so again he's only steiner because you can make parallels between his role and which characters he's tied to in the plot, they're nothing alike as characters and he has zero development as a throwaway tragic character (who dies twice)He's arguably more just a male Beatrix
whats a good reshade preset
>>683772825It's probably worse. I finished Stormblood. I haven't bothered playing DT for like the last three weeks. Just could not care less.
>>683772727I'm sure I have seen such athing, or at least someone tabulating the lines, but I cannot find it.
>>683768286Would you be happier if Wuk Lamat had a good english dub? If her range and enunciation met with your approval would you no longer resent the terrible script and worse localization?
>>683772934Hiroi needs to goSena needs to goKate needs to goWhoever composed smile needs to goIt's too late. xiv is finished. They can't get rid of so many people in critical positions while CS3 also works on 2 other games
>>683770827>he still manages to get some of the best scenes somehow
>>683772731Steiner is not an interesting character. His own game stops caring about him quickly and he is a joke character whose gimmick is acting like a generic fantasy like from Oblivion.
>>683773004>they're nothing alike as charactersyou're the only guy i've seen that says otis has no similarity to steiner as a character
>>683772970Not him, but I'd be legitimately surprised if that were the case. It's not like the raid series is even a work of art, it just manages to feel completely different.
>>683772769I would lick Mablu's armpits from sunup to sundown.
>>683772970Not really.It will just show me that he still needs to be off MSQ and onto smaller projects where he can focus. When I say he needs to go I mean he's already proven he can't be in charge of a full narrative.
>>683772932It was thirty years, correct?I skipped this part of the story because I had had enough.Does Honey B look 30+ to you?
>>683773038>while CS3 also works on 2 other gamesThis shit also needs to stop.
>>683772969
I hope the strike and bad DT reception is enough to convince SE to ditch their new American VA studio and go back to the Britbong studio they've used previously going forward.
>>683773121>slowly licks her lips when she sees your wallet
>>683773110Cutting corners and prioritizing other projects over xiv is a CBU3 staple.
>>683773054I mean. I see that he's supposed to be Steiner, mainly because this is supposedly the ff9 xpac and he's a knight, and literally no one else fits that bill at all.Without these conditions, I'd never see him as Steiner.
>>683773121UOOOOOHHHHH ALLIED SOCIETY EROTIC
>>683773121Full?
>>683773004>yeah so again he's only steiner because you can make parallels between his role and which characters he's tied to in the plotYeah, no shit.>they're nothing alike as characters????>he has zero development as a throwaway tragic character (who dies twice)Yeah he was introduced too late to really do much and killed off almost immediately, though narratively this serves the function of illustrating the difference between a real person and their recreation in Living Memory.>He's arguably more just a male BeatrixThis was probably the point of his body having a Paladin color scheme, but Otis himself doesn't behave anything like Beatrix.
>>683773110SE can't help it. KH and 7R are fucking falling apart and everything except XIV and XVI have been flops, with the latter only barely managing to avoid being one.
>>683773127You can't fix this mess either way. No way Kate will accept hiring Brits to voice Mexico.So you'll get other set of amigxs that love tacos to do it instead.
Am I the only one who actually liked the first half more than the second? The first bit was kind of boring but I enjoyed the low stakes episodic cartoon plotline and I thought Bakool Ja Ja was an extremely entertaining recurring bad guy. I definitely do not think it was perfect and wish it was better paced and more interesting (pair us up with Bakool during the cooking contest to develop him before his change) but the back half is just completely slop and a rehash of the past expansions except more anime
>>683768286My biggest problem with western VA work is they are trying so hard to sound like themselves or over dramatize everything, like English Zelda VA in recent games 3D games. This one is no exception. >but teh japaneseJapanese are pretty good with their acting, but newer VA's are pretty bland and use only 2-3 types of voice all the time. It's not like we used to have, couple VA's with 20+ different styles/ranges.
>>683773195remember hitstop, barry
>>683773121Please tell me she'll be a custom delivery.
>>683773190>they're nothing alike as characters>????Explain to me Steiner as a character.And then explain Otis to me as a character.Please.
>>683772291it has voicework problems throughout
>>683767891Queue the emotional blackmail. I'm so tired of shit voice actors, bring on the ai.
>>683773237Forspoken was a flop too ye fookin dipshite, worse than Rebirth even.
>>683773232its strength is that the first half of dawntrail is exactly what a 'adventurer in a new land' arc would go like, minus wuk
>>683773256No I'm not gonna explain anything to somebody that's clearly not interested. Die in a hole somewhere.
>>683773232they are both bad but the first part is better than the second, at least the first half makes sense conceptually, even if the execution is boring, but it all starts falling apart after the contest ends
>>683773195Dawntrail and XVI were also flops. XVI dlcs even more so. I think there's 100 people on the entire planet that bought them.
>>683773295That's what I thought pussy.Run away without a single bit of thought.
>>683768016Have you heard them? They constantly go on strike, demand more and give a dialed in performance. Sure there are some great voice actors, but they are few and far between.
>>683773232I felt nothing during the first half.The beginning of the second half made me like the first half more because I thought "Okay we did our job, Wuk is in charge now it's our turn to do our stuff with Krile and Erenville." And for most of the Shaaloani zone the game made you think that. It felt nice until the dome and instantly you're back with Wuk Lamat dominating everything.
>>683773368Big words for somebody using the webpage on his phone to browse 4chan.
>>683773341the 100 ps5 owners
>>683773341God you're pathetic
>>68377343599*I didn't buy that shit.
>>683773232If they had the whole story as the lower-stakes adventures going through a new location on a journey and exploring things it'd be great. Would make a fine expansion. And they could amp up stakes in a subdued way (Tural Vidraals, a slumbering monster in the Golden City, Mamook's Secret Baby Ghost Army) without introducing Cyberpunk Robot Army and Giant Mecha That Wants to Eat All Life.They executed on the actual journey and every part of it really poorly, but we were sold on the idea of a kind of subdued, chill "vacation" adventure for the sake of adventure, and that would have been fine.
>>683773417Big words for a tiny bitch.
>>683768650They probably will be. I believe that was what caused the initial VO switch after ARR.
They knew what they were doing with Sphene with all the gratuitous pit shots and that one cutscene where it zoomed in directly on her armpit as she waved.
>>683773054The only similarities they have are being knights.They pass up the chance to do anything truly reminiscient of Steiner by having him act offended by anyone being overly friendly or acting improper around Sphene, or having any moments of crisis regarding her actions (putting her in the Brahne seat as queen).Hell they didn't even bother saving 'Something to Protect' for the end of that instance where they killed him off
>>683773535One thing I liked about Sphene was how she always side-eyed our character like she was nervous around us.
>>683773535There's 0 texture making her pits stand out. You're worse than footfags. Subhumans.
>>683773535She should have just sold AI Sphene sexbots to satisfy her kingdom.
>>683773530the ARR studio shift was wanting longterm voice actors and the first studio was unable or unwilling to stay on for long periods (there wasn't a strike involved)
>>683773535
>>683773232Cut back Wuk Lamar's scenes by 50% and the first half is what everyone was asking for from Dawntrail. The second half might as well have nothing to do with the first and is a pathetic joke.
>>683773190>has none of the character's flaws or personality traits >????Gulool Ja is not fucking Vivi, you could make the same fucking argument about the relationship between these characters to claim he's supposed to fucking be a robot version of Barret Wallace
why would you want sphene when she has no thighs or tummy?
>DT raids>Start off with cute females that are all top tier waifu>EW raids>Start off with faggot vampire that can't stop talking about how much gay anal worms sex he wants to haveYeah I think DT wins.
>>683773121I want to trade for Mablu's mablus!
>>683773232i really just wanted to go on an adventure to find the golden city so it was fine by me. wuk is annoying as fuck but in general I was liking the direction it was taking.i would have been fine with the golden city being an ancient high tech society even, but it should have been abandoned completely with some superweapon or monster sealed inside - no solution 9 bullshit
>>683767891I am once again stating that hiring american "actors" was a mistake.Hopefully all of this garbage is thrown into the trash.
>>683773784you wouldn't be making bad arguments for fun, would you, anon?
>>683773809hmm... i think you and i played different raids, anon... maybe uninstall some mods and try again?
>is what Wuk Lamat should have been>becomes well liked in like four cutscenes and even though the raid story revolves around her and her family there is still room for others to stand out
>>683773873at least pretend to read what you're responding to
>>683773232The second half is dogshit because Zoraal Ja is a nothing character who didn't receive any development thanks to the first half being a prolonged care bears episodeThe whole expac feels like it was compressed from a script meant for 6.0-6.3 where they cut out way too much actual character writing and we should've had Sphene fuck off with the Azem hourglass as a cliffhanger. They should've just added a second Arizona/Mexico zone and made Living Memory patch content
>>683768460https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_belle
>>683773938>is what Wuk Lamat should have beenThis might be the most dangerously stupid opinion I have ever seen about this character or even about Wuk Lamat.
>>683773232I thought both halves were awful, easily the worst content they've ever released
>>683774001>tomboy>hopeful>inexperienced>willing to learn from (you) so you could have an actual mentor role instead of it being msq copeNah you're the retard.
>>683768469Unless they're doing rewrites it wouldn't surprise me if the first patch is already voiced since they do a lot ahead of time. Might have 7.1 and 7.2 done. If they're doing any kind of adjustments based on DT feedback they might run into a snag but I wouldn't expect them to make significant adjustments to content they're already deep in development on. Maybe by 7.3.It would be pretty funny if the character was written out during a strike like this and one of the last voiced lines for Wuk was the Sphene shit.
>>683773938>Watch CiderSpider play the raid immediately after he finished the MSQ>Get to the scene where he's at the gym and they're sitting drinking energy drinks>"I've been struggling not to say it, but I really like this character and this is so good against Wuk Lamat why am I enjoying this so much? Why couldn't this have been the writing of the msq?"A lot of people have the same thought.
>>683773232I actually liked it more too. It definitely wasn't perfect, but it wasn't a total trainwreck like the 2nd half.
>>683770663Vote, let's get FF6 up here
>>683768049So, either he has already voiced all Wuk shit from 7.1 onwards, or they actually drop the character wholly and we will never see her again.
>>683768016because they don't have anywhere near the talent or dedication that Japanese seiyuu have
>>683773232The first part was garbage, so yeah probably.
>>683773969>second Arizona zoneRemember how you talk to the not-native American miqote tribe, and they briefly mention not liking Koana and thinking the trains scare the not-buffalo?and then they just give you wood for the train anyway and you never speak to them again?I wonder how much of the MSQ was completely derailed by the DEI firm right there
I can mentally deal with a bit more Wuk Lamat focus as long as I know the character is going to Lyse's hell.
>>683772291I like Bakool's mystic head. "But I could get used to it" might be my second favourite delivery in the MSQ behind Otis' simp speech.
>>683773803(Yes, please.)
>>683774212
>>683774076buy an ad
>>683773969>make Living Memory patch content.That's a horrible idea that would only repeat the slog that was 6.1-6.5.All of Dawntrail real problems lead back to Wuk Lamat leeching the spotlight like a vampire when there's no good point in her doing so.
>>683768286>>683768317How did this incompetent retard get the job in the first place?
>>683774240No one likes your little pet character, better luck next time, womp womp.
>>683774076The side content quality in DT has been decent to great, which stands out against the shitty MSQ and makes it look even worse than it is. Which also applies to comparing DT to other expansions.I did the tank and melee DPS role quests directly after doing the MSQ. Both of them focus on you playing a mentor and companion to a focus character. Each focus character is so much more charming and likeable than Wuk Lamat that it's baffling. You see them actually fail, grow, change, develop, and succeed over the course of six quests more than Wuk Lamat does in, like, 20 hours of cutscenes. You actually feel like a mentor to them, and their eventual success feels more earned than Wuk Lamat's ever does.
>>683774297intersectional nepotism
>>683774303streamer worshipping child gets made that somebody doesn't suck the same cock he does... sad! many such cases!
>>683774303buy an ad
>>683773121She cute
>>683774349Yea but from who? Who had the power to get them to hire this fuckwit?
>>683774212is that modded?
>>683774354>>683774371kek, you're REALLY gonna make him mad with these ones!
>>683771128Nobody likes the character enough to bother with any of that. Anyone who still does it despite that, is just doing it because its a tranny and nothing to do with the character.
>>683774401this one really set them off
>>683774391kate, the eng localisation lead
>>683773232Honestly it was incredibly jarring how we became even a bigger side character than in the first half, considering the stakes.
>>683774149The train blew up its fine
>>683774440Uh-oh melty!
>>683774459It was also jarring how every character would actually be relevant during the last bits had some manufactured reason to stay behind. Can't risk stealing screentime from Wukky I guess.
>>683774506shut up shut up shut the fuck up
>>683772291Bakool Ja Ja, Sphene, Otis and Koana I thought were all very good
>>683773232I am the same. First part was boring but it was whatever. Second part was riddled with plotholes and mate the game lore worse all over.
For a MSQ where the WoL is supposed to be a mentor they really, really dropped the ball on letting the player draw upon their numerous experiences to give her god-tier advice on both adventuring and how not to fuck up as a ruler. Might have actually made her speedrun character growth make more sense if she had the WoL as a cheat sheet.>Hey, so I was thinking, my Papa has the Landsguard right? Well what if I started my OWN company of heroes to protect the people? We could call ourselves the Tural Gallants and... why are you laughing?
>>683774076I refuse to believe the MSQ was written in-houseIt feels entirely different from anything before it, and anything in the Dawntrail sidequests>>683774396Completely vanilla
you ever notice that every Concerned Party on 4chan is completely fucking clueless about the hires, fires, whys and wheres of the thing they're Concerned About
>>683772792What kills me is that it should have been fucking Wuk Lamat staying at home at that point while Koana goes with us to Solution Nine, it would have completed his arc and it would have given him an opportunity to see his views on technological advancement at all costs challengedHiroi is a fucking hack, bring back Ishikawa and Oda back from whatever dungeon SE sent them to
>>683774586SHUT UP THE STORY IS PERFECT YOU FUCKING CHUD
>>683770389I think one of the big things is that even though he featured heavily in Shadowbringers, the story still leaned heavily on Ardbert and Emet so even if you didn't like the crystal exarch there were still other characters that did their own narrative heavy lifting. Even if you're the kind of person to differentiate the Crystal Exarch from Graha Tia, Endwalker has a large cast of characters with Graha only getting some of the spotlight. Graha really only felt like he took center stage in 5.4/5.5 which made some sense given that those were his first real outings as a scion but even if you hated him in that arc it was still less than 20 quests combined across both patches. DT put all of its weight on Wuk Lamat and gave zero other characters any real time in the spotlight.
>>683774639>Koana talks mad shit about how technology will ease the burdens of the people>Gets to Heritage Found, finds out about the Regulator's erasing memories of the dead>Not_like_this.png
>>683774639>>683774727That would have been interesting.
>>683774628no. i do notice that you are vagueposting, however.
I miss original pits girl.
>>683768998The union you are with pays you. Mind you, it’s usually chump change compared to what you actually make. That’s what union dues are mainly used for.Also, your bank cannot for close your home if you’re on strike, nor can a landlord evict you. HOWEVER you do need to still pay whatever you didn’t once the strike ends.Unionizing is a good thing, but it’s not for every job. VA is an example of a job that should not be unionized.
>>683774354>>683774371>>683774401>>683774440>>683774506>>683774537AYO LIL PABLOYOU AND THE SEAMONKEYS ARE LITTLE TURDS SEETHIN IN MY TOILET TONITE
>>683768217I have an irrational hatred for this boss. It's just one of those shitty, laggy fallguy crossover games, but when the DPS fucks up you'll be trapped forever.
>>683774798Femras do everything better
>>683774514>Y'shtola: "a giant thunder dome and futuristic robots possibly not of this world emerging from it? Eh, I've got better things to do, later losers"
>>683774820wut?
>>683772138GOD I LOVE ARMPITS SO MUCHFUCK
>>683774639Realistically they should have both gone, and the story should have simply held off on Zoraal killing Gulool until we actually get to see some fucking semblance of his character
>>683774842It's funny how the pro-scion and anti-scion groups both get fucked over in DT.
>>683774820Just start spamming, tranny.
>>683774628>Vague posting in a thread that has an OP with information about the recent VA hired for the main character of dawntrail>"Ever notice how 4chan knows nothing about the hiring the firing and whys"If this is bait it's pretty piss poor.
>>683774842I really disliked that, but her stating that WoLs safety is more important than her urge to jump in was kind of cute...
What's vagueposting, I don't watch Asmongold so I'm not up to date on these terms.
>>683774840
>>683774853>>683774889CONGRATULATIONS LIL PABLO YOU OWN THE ARCHIVESYOU BREAK IT YOU OWN IT
>>683774937>Asmongold out of nowhererent free kek
>>683774937holy newfag
>>683774212what bottoms are those?
>>683774339give a bad writer 20 hours of cutscene budget and he's just gonna give you 20 hours of bad cutscenes
>>683775014did you forget to take your meds today?
>>683772291I like the Otis robot and both of the two heads and the sheriff. I don't even remember if Otis counts or if he still used a brit. Nothing else from the new actors sounded particularly good.
>vagueposting>the message is actually pretty clear?
>>683775039Isle Vacationer's TangaI think it's the only piece that gives lalas buttcheek definition
>>683775182i'll keep it in mind. thanks
I like how Square Enix took a look at Shadowbringers which about tripled the games' playerbase and generated a shitload of money for them in cash shop and merch sales and went 'You know, let's take the writer that did that and put her somewhere else, by the way let's heavily edit Endwalker too and take all the blood out'It's like SE is terminally incapable of making good decisions, that fujo dropped solid gold in their laps and they were like 'Oh, yeah nah we're good back to the marketing dungeon with you'Whatever desk they've got her chained to better put out a good fucking game, if they've got her writing NPC dialogue for fucking Kingdom Hearts or some shit I'm going to blow my fucking gasket
>>683775168how young do you have to be to not know what vagueposting means?
you know what vague posting is
>>683772291Koana, Bakool Ja Ja, Gulool Ja Ja, Cahciua were great. Most of the latino VA's doing south Tural characters were okay.The big offenders were Wuk, and the 4kids anime dub performances in Shaaloani.
>>683775168Keky! You really made them mad with this.
>>683775259They already put her on EW because of ShB and EW plot was a mess.Shadowbringers was a fluke.
>>683775092YOU LIKE THESE MEDS LIL PABLO HOWZIT FEEL TO VAGUE POST?
>>683775370is this 'pablo' in the room with us right now?
>>683775334>CahciuaI hated, HATED her and it was 90% because every other fucking Viera in the entire game we've heard with a voice has an Icelandic accent and yet mysteriously Erenville(who has an Icelandic accent)'s mother is a sassy black womanMAKE HER ICELANDIC OR FUCK OFF
>>683775413Si, senor.
>>683775367EW was also meant to be two expansions but it went through rewrites and suffered due to COVID.
>>683775425could you repeat that in english? i dont speak spanish.
>>683775259she did well enough that she was promoted to a supervisory position, that's jap corp culturethe fact that it leaves a gaping vacuum on the XIV team doesn't matter to them. they did the same thing with koji.
>>683775370I'm not sure 'LIL DONNIE' posting is widespread enough of a meme (outside of /tv/) to be using it like this.
>>683775470Me gustan los tacos de arroz y un refresco de concha.
>>683775339>>683775413LIL PABLO I WIPE THE GACHA WIT MY ASSHOWZAT WORK?
>>683775419That's just Yoshida not caring about western dub tradition when he elevated Erenville to main character and retconned him to be a Turali Viera.
>>683775537Erenville VA is probably the worst one
>>683775419>playing the eng dubyou dug this grave so lie in it and stop bitching
>>683768646>Why would they?Because it's their job as performance actors, why would anyone respect voice actors who don't respect their own work or part in a larger project?
How do I interpret colors in fflogs? I cleared my first ex on content today but I fucking sucked
>>683775259>people actually thought EW was bad and ShB was betterlegitimately the most confusing part of these threads to me
>>683775573He's fine. The performance is at least, the accent is not for everyone though, and the fact that it's another Nael van Darnus situation sours it even more regardless.
>>683775684Anything below 50 = bad
>>683775684>How do I interpret colors in fflogs?Orange - gud. Purple - acceptable. Everything else - kill yourself.
>>683775684Grats for the clear.
>>683775684A clear is a clear.
>>683775712Are you talking launch MSQ or overall MSQ and content quality/quantity? Because ShB patch series defintiely was better.
>>683775684If you have the best weapon then anything below blue is terrible
>>6837757925.0 vs 6.0
>>683775720>>683775736>>683775810brb killing myself>>683775742>>683775769Thanks bros
>>683775684a clear is a clear but if you want to not look like you were dragged and carried through content (like many women I see with grey clears on ults), try getting at least a blueblue = the bare minimum. respect for tryingpurple = you're getting the hang of it and you at the very least know how to playorange and above = you are solidly good at the game
>>683775259I'm 100% convinced she's writing XVII, built on XVI's Radec Engine.Only question in my head being who the fuck is directing.
>>683775684Aim for purple as a baselineWork your way up from there, PF and randoms will limit your potential however
>>683768317>I will not be voicing any more video game projects>1 hour passes>I have no new VO rolesHow could this happen?
>>683775887>tank>greyIt is an achievement for sure
>>683775715>The performance is at leastno, he's annoying, every viera is. i think icelandic people just can't act? maybe get the people from lazy town, they were alright
>>683775887Just improve. Everyone has greys and anyone says otherwise is a goddamn liar.
>>683775887What's your gear?Did you die?Did you get any damage downs?Why isn't your active% any higher?
>>683775979Lyna was good. Her accent wasn't overbearing though.
>>683776024The only time someone should parse grey is when they die 2-3 times
>>683768286Doesn't sound American. Strange prosody and some phonemes are off."this" "truly" "the" some others.Generally bad emotion as well, of course.
>>683775887To elaborate: anything below 50 represents either a fundamental lack of understanding of how to play, or multiple deaths/damage downs. Both of those are things that can be fixed.
>>683776071no she also made my ears bleed, didn't help that the character herself was annoyingly intrusive
>>683771856https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FWiTjmaJ3kFor me it's my KING tom and jerry boomer
>>683776208Or an internet disaster.I got a 0 once because I kept crashing and DC'ing in a fight. That was an embarrassing day.
>>683775684>but I fucking suckedDon't worry about that, bud. Clear is a clear.As you do more runs, just work on getting mechanics and positioning right first. Once you have that down, then its just a matter of slamming your rotation down to get the deeps.As with all things, its really just a matter of experience.
>>683776028>What's your gear?Tomestone armor, artifact weapon, dungeon accesories>Did you die?Yes>Did you get any damage downs?I don't think so>Why isn't your active% any higher?Panicked a few times, I think I got hit with the ice thing. After the fire phase everything goes downhill for me. I'll keep trying until I can do it without dying at least
>>683772213P is for peasant or person maybe. It means you know only English. Used mostly by ESLs as a response to the term.
>>683770389Because Crystal Exarch was a bro in ShB and although G'Raha is a fag, he wasn't in my face 24/7 in EW and even then he was fine when he wasn't busy sucking on my dick. And even that was sucking on MY dick, not huffing paint by himself.
>>683776273That's something out of the player's control, so I didn't bother listing it. You can't help internet troubles.
>>683776313crystal exarch 5.1 5.2 was a huge retard.
>>683775684I got nothing but greys my first time raiding in zodiark-endsinger ex and asphodelos, now I can consistently hit oranges and have done ults. Godspeed, anon
>>683776204Oh, I figured out he's Mexican. Okay.
Alphinaud just abandoned these little guys on the side of the road.
>>683770389Stop noticing that the MSQ has always been bad
>>683776287I'm basically repeating what other anons said, but: Try again when you have the trial weapon. Better accessories would help too. Dying is a big no-no. It's also important to be comfortable enough with your rotation that you can keep mashing it while also doing the mechanics since that leads to less panic.But overall clear is a clear.
nothing ever happens
>>683776260>Lyna intrusiveDid you play a special edition of ShB that the rest of the universe didn't?
>>683776706nope.
>>683768016Japanese Seiyuus career path:https://seiyuuplus.wordpress.com/category/feature/nichinare/>You're interested in the acting or voice acting because you've consumed media>Perhaps you're a part of your local schools drama or theater club or maybe anime club where you can dabble in these>You graduate high school and join an actual school for it like Nichinare the most famous one https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E3%83%8A%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3%E6%BC%94%E6%8A%80%E7%A0%94%E7%A9%B6%E6%89%80>You then trains and get trained by veterans of the industry>You Carrier paths after the school are not "Voice acting" but pop idol / seiyuu / actor / singer / vtuber / train station announcer / radio personality / youtuber / anything that requires a voice>Some other schools are designed as talent scout agencies where the agency already has you covered while you're in school landing you a role here and there if you're good There are many of these schools all over Japan. There is significant demand for the peoples talents. Let's look at two older female voice actors English.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donna_Burke>Voices nearly all of the high speed trains in Japan>Voices countless lines in Japan>Produces her own music>Produces music and lyrics for media>Is a freelance announcer for NHK>Gets invited to various JP talk shows or variety shows>Gets small roles in TV shows and such>Started a business to export heat pads to Australia from Japanhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colleen_Clinkenbeard>She does anime>She directed ADR for anime a bitOkay what about some famous male?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Mercer>He did anime>He moved to Youtube>He started designing games and DnD shitThis guy get it, but this guy is RARE. Most of the Voice Acting tallent in the US is literal amateurs with 0 actual voice acting training. If you're lucky their actors by training.
>>683776562I was thinking about them yesterday, should let us glam them if Alph is never going to use them again.>>683776721So you're talking out your ass then, gotchu senpai.
>>683776260You're just a retard
>>683776754>So you're talking out your ass thennah>>683776775your waifu is shit and annoying
>>683768317>tranny VA who manages to get his foot through the door either by sheer blind fucking luck or by cronyism (probably both)>can count the number of roles the dude has under his belt on one hand>is unironically going on strike like he's a Hollywood writer who's been in the biz for decadesThis amount of unwarranted ego is actually astonishing
>>683769813This still sounds like American VAs being huge uncooperative fucking assholes
>>683776731>Donna BurkeI love herhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIvZq3Ws-mQ
>>683776731https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlX_8SdsW30Didn't know that about the train chick. That's pretty cool and the comments are just all Japanese people marking out over her.The meta now to get into voice acting seems to be unironically just shilling yourself on twitter to get into ingroups and voice a billion fucking memes and fucking 4CHAN GREENTEXTS until you get an in.
>>683770810>surpass>not fuck Fujos get out
>>683777072Absolutely soulless
>>683768286I still think a lot of the VA could've been saved in DT if the voice directing wasn't so fucking awful.It's like they took the first takes of every line and said "YEAH THIS SOUNDS GOOD" and just went with it, no fucking quality control, what happened with this expac?
>>683777114>and fucking 4CHAN GREENTEXTSwe run the VA business
>>683777162you can't direct someone with no talent in the first place
>>683768443EU VAs have other jobs to do expect anime and video games.Everything needs to be dubbed, Americans shows, American media, games, events, ads for American brands. And they can work as radio hosts, announcers and so on. Usually one gets hired to match a voice of someone from the US so as long as that person preforms well you will have roles as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG5pOfpy0IE - This german guy here did Sylverster Stallone and Arnold and as long as they did movies he had work.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_DannebergMeanwhile in the US when something high caliber needs to be dubbed they get actual actors to do it.Like why the fuck are Boy and Heron voice actors Robert Pattinson and Christian Bale, Mark Hamill, Dave Bautista, Willem Dafoe?This just shows that nobody in the US treats voice actors with any respect or considers them important.
>>683777181Thancred sounds off too and Y'sthola sounding like she's calling from a tin can is also a common complaint.
>>683769428>>683769813The ARR to HW change is due to two reasons:>Soundelux, the company that does ARR's VA recording, goes bankrupt, and every VA contract would have to be renegotiated individually.>at the exact same time the US VA unions are threatening with a strike, which would occur a year laterSE literally had no choice but to go with Side UK instead else they'd have to delay Heavensward.
>>683768286How'd we go from thishttps://youtu.be/UQjWXiyIeok?si=ndUg4a_trfzWr4oJto that?
just imagine whats around the bend~
/dbs/ won
>>683777580another two years of pain at least, since squeenix never makes big changes outside of the x.0 patches?>tfw black mage main
>>683768907Voice acting is typically done on a piecemeal contract basis. No one is a permanent employee of the company they are doing voice work for. In the case of voice actors, striking just means they are not doing any current jobs and not accepting any new jobs.
>>683772617People saying Wuk is Zidane have not played FF9
>>683770840Thats all and good but you need to realize that in the Japanese dub they voiced by some very heavy fucking hitting expensive ass voice actors.Like the somewhat irrelevant Papalymo Totolymo was Eri KitamuraEven side characters like Cid are voiced by top tier shit like Rikiya KoyamaAnd this weren't nobodies back then when they were hired they were already A tier actors. The only people that are kind of meh nobodies was Nero hes a comedian first voice actor second.And how very all in SE was on the game should tell you that Lahabrea is voiced by Shuichi Ikeda the guy that voiced Char in Gundam, Scorpio Milo in Saint Seya, Shanks in One Piece and he also voices Jet Li in the Japanese dubs.
>>683777703and today? what's the acting chops of the newer VAs?
>>683777703>BIG pubes
>>683777703Isn't Y'shtola's VA also really expensive?
>>683777703I want them to go back to the original expansion girl formula from XI and bring in Hayamin. I'd cream my pants so hard.
>>683777703>Papa was voiced by AmiDamn. RIP my lil nigga
>>683771771>doesn't notice Azem's symbol on the gobletI hate streamers so much
>>683777114Thats because theres is no actual voice acting industry in the US. The good roles go to famous actors, the radio hosts, announcers, ads people are all a totally separate industry.So voice acting in the US is literally video games and anime. And most anime voice actors are fucked because anime voices are not and emotional ranges are not suited to the English language. The voice range needed for anime is FuwaMoco https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtsFctvC8pIBut they speak Japanese and understand what type of voice range, quirks and techniques go into making a "cute" voice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpiLtYU42Jo Listen to dogshit. Holy shit.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBuVHbU5P8A The Japanese version is like day and night.
