Miquella's plan was flawless, he absolutely did nothing wrong.
>>683778712>G.O.T.artist can't name 10 books
>>683778817Who cares
>>683778712>he absolutely did nothing wrongI'd reply with "he lost", which is true. But you know what's funny? He lost AFTER he completed his plan. The Tarnished One just kills him AND his Lord after he has attained godhood. Just like they kill Marika/Radagon and Elden Beast.I understand that the PC has video game protagonist powers and whatnot. But from in-universe point of view, did Marika understand just what kind of can of worms she was opening by executing her tarnished protocol? The Tarnished One is a fucking eldritch being of its own, having deity-slaying powers, and while not immortal - they're completely unstoppable no matter how many times you kill them.
>>683778712wasn't Miquella trying to bring back godwyn or something? or give him a "truth death"?? whatever happened to that, did it just get dropped for this new stuff
>>683780192>or give him a "truth death"?That likely requires attaining godhood and establishing a new Order first.
>>683779986you're looking at this the wrong way, the tarnished isn't some strong beast or whateverthe only reason we are a threat is because marika keeps reviving us, which makes zero fucking sense in the shadow lands but eh, doesn't even make much sense in the lands between anyway if we look at godfrey etc but that's besides the pointits a contrivance that allows us to win, we are broken and nonsensical in lore
>>683778817there aren't even 10 books goofball
>>683780192Miquella had shit loads of plans mentioned in the base game. The fixation people like you have on that one plotline is bizarre. Just like curing his sister and saving the albinaurics and growing an Erdtree replacement, he failed. He is cursed with nascency, that's the whole point of his character. Nothing he attempts comes to fruition.
>>683778712>did everything just to get killed by some lowlife nobody Most pathetic character ever, together with radahn
>>683778712>basegame's message is that women are evil, irrational, just plain stupid and will ruin everything for everyone for no real reason>DLC's message is that gays are absolutely malignant parasites and manipulative groomers who will pretend that they're friendly and empathic only to ditch and fuck over innocent people so they can follow their dreams of getting their crust busted by big burly menBased Miyazaki?
>>683780192The entire dlc is a retcon
>>683782332Fighting godwyn's whale corpse is intrinstically more interesting than the gay pedo bossfight we got Mitsubushi, sorry
>>683780292>the only reason we are a threat is because marika keeps reviving usIncorrect, you only get revived once by Marika calling in all tarnished to the lands between (some are still alive like Boggart and Rogier)You only get revived once.It's just a gameplay mechanic since it would make 0 sense that you'd still keep getting revived when Maliketh kills you or when the Rune of death gets unleashed
>>683783385I never said it was or wasn't. I said there is a bizarre number of people obsessed with one plot thread related to Miquella, one that had an ending in the base game, when there were so many more. I actually do not understand it. You can think that boss fight sounds more interesting I really don't care to argue about that. Thinking a plotline was "dropped" however is straight retardation.
>>683782332>Just like curing his sister and saving the albinaurics and growing an Erdtree replacementWhich he all ditched like they were nothing Do you even realize how fucking depressing Latenas questline is now? Might as well just kill her on the spot or let her rot in her stupid shack
>>683783607point still stands, there is no "in universe" or substantial weighing for the tarnished being some epic monster, its just the game being a game, marika didn't "understand" whatever, its a game, trying to make something out of any wins we have over the bosses (unless they're weak fucks like gideon etc) is silly
>>683782332>>683783820Unalloyed gold works though.
>spend millenia planning and learning>get killed by some random dongus who just showed up last week and doesn't know what's going on
>>683784754It happens
Is there a way to get here?
>>683786381Try jumping
>>683786381Yeah through the flooded part in the Messmer keep
>>683786381Drain the water in the flooded Church District part of the Shadow Keep and you'll find an elevator that leads down there
>>683786570>>683786685Thanks!
>>683780192he realised that there were a lot of spergs on the internet obsessed with Godwyn and didn't want to be associated with them
>>683782437Every single member of Marika's family except Ranni gets murdered by you. From Software has no idea what to do with characters but turn them into bosses.
>>683783816>Thinking a plotline was "dropped" however is straight retardation.Even Godwyn's rune you get from his "ending" is just an eclipse hinting at his revival.
>final (final) boss isn't evil
>>683778712>he absolutely did nothing wrongWhy did he leave his previous sister behind? He doesn't so much as mention her in the DLC. It's all just Radahn, Radahn, Radahn. Which would have been fine and all I suppose. But I thought for sure, that at least the post-battle memory shard left behind. Would reference Malenia. But no, it just referenced Radahn again. Fucking R.I.P. Malenia. Did Miquella even actually love her? Or was that all deceit and charms like with others?
>>683787696Miquella eventually caught on that she's just an unfair Sekiro leftover.
>>683782332>Nothing he attempts comes to fruition.he's just like me
>>683787696>Did Miquella even actually love her?He gave up on the golden order because it couldn't cure her rot, and built an unalloyed gold needle specifically to cure her rot.
What could have been.
>>683783859You are the Champion of the Festival
imagine arguing over FROMsoftware lore in games lmao.that shit is beyond mattering even a fraction.
>>683788136Malenia, first amongst freaks
>>683788435sorry anon unless you beat radahn on your first ever try EVER along with never dying against him, then it's "Mr Respawn" who's the champion, not you
>>683788909>never dying against himI meant never dying while getting to him
>>683788909I did, I summoned the companions then used Breath of Ezekiel el Machiwis on his back.
>>683782332>he is cursed with nascency This is the dumbest reddit shit I've ever heard Every other character in the game also failed at whatever they tried to do
>>683789028and you never died once before getting to radahn?
>>683787897Yes but you're a fat middle aged neet, and hes an eternal femboy
>>683787696He probably learned she did her rotsplosion and considered her lost.
>>683787268Not true, Godwyn can't be killed by the player. Undead fish guy is gonna be lonely at the family reunion.
I will always find it funny that japan did a way better game using european culture than white people will ever do, how do you all are so pathetic?
>>683789086It's literally said in the game faggot
>>683789357Europe has been conquered long ago by a certain group of people
I really despise how npcs you fight glow red just to advertise a fucking multilayer component
>>683789409Nah
>>683789409He literally succeeds at becoming a god in the game.
