MGS goes Open World!
>>683794586More like MGS goes empty world
>fixes everything wrong with MGSV's open world and makes it kino and fun to exploreApologize
>>683794586>>683795163>le meaningless open world memeThe game was brilliant with it. Only free roaming was a bit too static since there was no traffic or activity in between bases and outposts. That's really my only complaint about the open world aspect. The maps we're still tightknit and very well designed. In missions they did it justice with a lot of patrols and general activity happening in the operation zone.If the lack of activity in free roam annoyed you, Infinite Heaven (mod) fixes that and goes way beyond with customization. They probably would have spruced up free roam with the planned DLC that we never got.
>>683795030>when you achieve 100% completion
>>683795694>that brown fluid
>reinstall MGSV>remember all the running through empty desert>lose interestWhy hasn't no one made a mod to add sruff
>>683795950to me the disappointing thing is how easy the game is even if you fine tune it via Infinite Heaven
>>683794586>it's been nine years since the game released come this september
>>683795375>The game was brilliant with it.No, it was garbage>Only free roaming was a bit too static since there was no traffic or activity in between bases and outposts. That's really my only complaint about the open world aspect. The maps we're still tightknit and very well designed. In missions they did it justice with a lot of patrols and general activity happening in the operation zone.So why not have the map reatorcted to around the area where shit actually happens? It was pointless trend chasing. The only way you can do open world right if you make progression through it part of the experience of your playthrough, like choosing parts pf the game in different orders, exploring/finding stuff, traveling and finding routes, collecting gear,...The idea of an MGS open world is retarded
>>683795761it's just flavored oil, bro
>>683795694Unappetizing
>>683795375So you acknowledge the world is shit but still talk it up because you convinced yourself it would be fixed in a hypothetical dlc???? You okay in the head??
anyone else think instead of an open world it should have been multiple ground zeroes sized maps?
>>683794586it worked. we just needed more than 2 zones
>>683796139big boss and venom were in comas for 9 yearsmakes you think
>>683796761yepi wish we got a snowy region or something like that
>>683796883ok hyperbolic nigga
>>683797708>game that killed a series, department, employments>dont be hyperbolic IT JUST WERKED!!1
imagine how good the game would have been if it had the level design of ground zeroes but everywhere insteadthe africa map in particular was abysmal
>>683798180Africa is just Afghanistan but with trees, grass and orange sand.
>>683794586Whoa HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
>>683795375I agree, I don't think air dropping via helicopter would have worked if the map was more dense.Only way I'd change it is being able to analyze LZ's more closely for random enemy patrols, but that's basically already a thing with alert mode anyways.
>>683795950>Why hasn't no one made a mod to add sruffInfinite Heaven adds the option for random patrols in freeroam, but doesn't let you increase frequency sadly (I don't think)
>>683798104>a seriesBro MGS Delta?
>>683796883Unironically yes, an Asian and South American theater would've made MG5 better than 3
>>683798584Africa a fucking shit
>>683798584Yes you've described the real world congrats
>>683795375>it's good because mods fix it>it's good because of imaginary hypothetical DLC that was never made or even hinted at
>>683799785mods don't even fix it, just makes it a little bit less empty and lets you tune the difficulty a little bit, but it can't fix the dogshit level design (or lack thereof), the story, the mission structure.
>>683799785>>683799973It's a good game without mods, it's a better one with them.But you'll just go "NU UH" anyways lol
i thought mg5 was open world. it wasnt? what a waste
>>683799658I meant in the game.It is the same level design you with extra decoration.
>>683794586I don't think any mainline MGS game is bad, but I would put GZ over Phantom Pain, hell I'd put 4 over Phantom Pain because the world lacks personality and intrigue.
>>683800062It's a good game but not a great one, and you expect the latter in a MGS.
>>683800128Did you even play the game? Like 90% of Afghan is a massive canyon, and 90% of Africa is a huge plain, they're not even remotely similar.You can just SAY you watched a playthrough on youtube you know, you won't be judged too badly
Should I give MGSV / Death Stranding a chance? Never played them.
>>683800128They're not the same at all and I play entirely differently in both zones.
>>683800523They're pretty different games, but yes, I recommend them
>The open world was meaningless and just pushed pointless grind and MTX on the player>Due to the open world, main mission structure was a mess in which it felt like 90% of what you did in the game didn’t really matter.>Side missions are literally Bethesda tier radiant quests.>Designing tight interesting levels for a open world map is not possible so 95% of the map is utterly forgettable and the ones that aren’t, are half baked compared to most locations in the series.>No warfare between different NPC factions that would have made exploring the open world way more enjoyable, Something fucking MGS4 had>Motherbase support bring there at all times killed a good amount of the tension and need for exploration. OSP for all missions is not support for some retarded reason.I really wished it was better, I really did
>classic Metal Gear but with all the movement and options from VThat's all I want. The way V controls was awesome and you could do so much shit if you wanted to, even if the best way to sneak around was quite literally rolling around on the floor.
The only level that felt like classic MGS was Retake the Platform
>>683800996Yeah MGS5 might be the most smoothly controlled game of its kind ever. Its such a fucking god damn shame the FOX Engine will now waste away.
>>683794586Game really should’ve been about Big Boss establishing Outer Heaven and eventually Zanzibarland. Drop the oil rig, first half set in Africa where you start building Outer Heaven and can freely travel from base to open world. Second half is about being hired by the CIA or some shit to fight a war in Afghanistan. Your mercs can be deployed as an allied faction in the game that patrol and control towns as the enemies do. Epilogue mission is a remake of Metal Gear 1 where you play as Solid Snake infiltrating the base you’ve built.
>>683794586Spectacular
>>683796761But there are multiple ground zeroes sized areas in the game. >OKB Zero>Mfinda Oilfield>Nova Braga Airport>Serak Power Plant>Lufwa Valley
>>683801890I mean without the open world and just the areas
>>683794586>Video games then>You're a super fighting robot, ride a dog jet into the enemy's fortress and fight Napalm man to steal his weapon>Video games now>Walk through barren empty lands for 20 minutes until your piss meter maxes out and you need to stop
>>683800796The game would've had a lot more content if it wasn't constrained by 7th gen consoles
>>683801807how many of those hours were spent on FOV invasions?
>>683795169>barren wasteland>fun to exploreWhat the fuck is wrong with you
>>683800996Seems like we're getting that with mgs traingle. The running, crouch walking and crawling (while on your back) animations seem to have been ripped directly from V. It'll probably be another Twin Snakes situation though since it doesn't seem like they've made any changes to the levels
>>683794586I think MGSV has the best gameplay in the series
>>683802682Peace Walker does on account of having Monster Hunter controls.
>>683800796>get to africa>BOSS THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT PMC'S>FUCK YEAH THEY'RE GONNA FI->THEY'VE GOT A DEAL WITH EACH OTHER NOT TO FIGHTThe world not feeling alive is it's biggest detriment. I wish the story missions were longer and more thought out as well, they went with peace walker (unsurprising) level design despite being on consoles this time around.I remember playing Ground Zeroes and just wondering what the main game would be like, I still enjoy playing it but it's still sad. Most depressing fact I find is that most of the game's cutscenes are shown in snippets in the red band trailer.Later on in the game, the subsistence and extreme missions are better. Makes it feel like an older MGS game in that regard.
>>683802682Is there anything it does better than Guns of the Patriots?
>>683802026>2015>now
>>683802682easily, by far
>>683795375That's cool and all but Africa was a fucking disgrace outside of the Airport and Mansion.
>>683804014>MansionOverrated as fuck, mainly because no missions made good use of it. In the Code Talker mission for example, it was a disgrace to put a backdoor that takes you directly to him.
>>683802682It has a terrible camera though, the worst in the series.
>>683804125Huh? How so? I've never seen this complaint
>>683804119I liked the areas surrounding the mansion itself, the indoors was alright, elevated by the mere fact that we get fuckall indoor areas in the game.
>>683804242Also the camera becomes very shitty in indoor areas, it gets too close to snake which doesn't let you see shit
>>683801807How?
>>683804213It’s way too zoomed in and they went for an Arkham style where you have to change shoulders even when not aiming. You no longer have the same sightline as enemies and therefore makes it needlessly harder to tell if you’re covered. Miller will also talk to you at inopportune times so you can’t hear.>>683804242>>683804314I was so irritated that you couldn’t soft-open doors.
>>683805298>I was so irritated that you couldn’t soft-open doors.you can, you just gotta go slower than usual, unless you mean something else
>>683805645Can you do that on keyboard? I’ll have to play again, but I swear that I couldn’t do that when walking with the ctrl key.
>>683805972yeah you hold Ctrl while opening the door, Snake initially gets stuck at the door for a split second but you have to just continue slow-walking forward
>>683802903>Later on in the game, the subsistence and extreme missions are betterNot if you played the game correctly the first time around. Then they just turn into repeats of exactly what you already did. If you played with aimassist, vision hud, or used any weapons you didn't beat the game.
A cool anon was showing off webms based on his Infinite Heaven setup earlier this week in a MGSV seethe thread. I decided to reinstall both it and GZ and finally check out some of these mods.
>>683807419do you have those webms?
>>683807419I second >>683807452.
>>683807419What thread?
>>683802327Ive never played online. 0
>>683810434The multiplayer was a lot of fun. No idea why it died so quickly when the gameplay was actually good for casual third person combat.
Infinite Heaven only works with TPP, right? Nothing for GZ. I would really like a randomizer for it.
>>683813478right
>>683812576It's fairly active for a 9 year old game. Way better than playing mgo2 on rpcs3 against giga tryhards
>BotW Good>But MGSV BadThey did the same thing
>>683813748Tendies have no standards, news at 11
>>683802682Considering that you spend half the time moving around from an empty place to another i'd say no
So why is the consensus that GZ is a better game? It’s really small and the stealth can be obnoxious. Honest, I think it’s better as a commando game than stealth.
>>683794586For me, it's the Driver's Ed side op
>>683813748Both are great gameplay wiseThe expectations from MGSV story wise is what make people get angry
