Why didn't you wait for me?
>>683805230I did, I got the achievement for it
>>683805279>achievement
You see that fricking timer above the screen, we gotta move
>>683805230I didnt know bro. I got you on my next three playthroughs tho
>>683805230Because timer
sigma
Because Shadow is pretty bad and letting him die makes Relm much better.
>>683807432Relm is buggy tho
>>683807432>Using Relm unironicallyYeah I sure love usiXXXXXXXXXXVVVV3478434274773299ERRORSAVE FILE CORRUPTED
>>683807432>Because Shadow is pretty badShadow throwing shuriken is one of the best physical attacks for most of the game--which at all points is still worse than just using magic, so yeah, you're not really wrong.>letting him die makes Relm much better.How so?
>>683808184She gets Interceptor
Are there any other JRPG characters that aren't optional to recruit but you can end up having die/leave your party if you fuck up?
How buggy is she ?
>>683805230strategy guide bullshit
>>683808762Depends on the version. The original SNES version is held together with hopes and fucking dreams, the number of ways Sketch can fuck up your game are insanely varied. Personally I've encountered shit as bizarre but harmless as every character in the party slowly being being infected by Celes' colour palette being applied to their sprite, to straight up having my save file rendered unloadable.
>>683808253You know, I've never actually let Shadow die so I never knew that. Neat.>>683807501Sketch sucks even in versions where it's not completely bugged to hell. Relm should be used for her great stats and equipment, not her command.
>>683809176Don't care, I have my mevade stacked so fucking high I'm nigh invincible. Daily reminder that the evade stat in VI literally does nothing.
>>683808762She's only bugged in the JP Super Famicom version, and the 1.0 carts of the SNES game.In those versions, whenever she misses with Sketch it pulls in junk data from somewhere that can do anything from nothing or jumbling graphics to crashing the game and corrupting your save data.
>>683809062>>683809470>falls to paint>destroy the worldKinda remind of a grand austrian figure
>>683809470>Stats that do nothing>Vanish makes any magic have a 100% hit rate on any target>Sketch>Various ridiculous sequence breaksWas it rushed to release?
>>683807432>minmaxing in ffsubhuman behavior
You literally said you’d be fine and to just go.
>>683805230Why? You're just gonna kill yourself in the world of ruin. Just die here, it makes your death mean something, protecting the party.
>>683805230Cannot even fathom not waiting for Shadow. He and Setzer are the best characters in the game.
>>683805353I got the trophy for it
>>683809835Remember to max out Sabin's Magick Attack via espers if you want him to be good
>pay 3000 GIL for Shadow to accompany you for the 30 minutes it takes to look for Terra in ZozoHmm yes, I think I unironically WILL do that, thanks.
>>683809835>Not minmaxing in FFSorry bro can't hear you over dual wield/x-fight/magic sword
>>683809803Basically every FF game ever has been a rushed mess held together by magic on release, maybe besides X
>>683809803The opposite, actually, which makes it funnier. The game was originally going to end with the floating continent but they had a ton of extra time left, so they added the entire World of Ruin.Makes the buginess more hilarious in hindsight.
>>683805230I didn't realize that was the condition or that you could die. I think its more thematically appropriate for the sacrifice to be there instead of arbitrarily after kefka anyways.
>>683805230>Has cute loli daughter.>Still choose to remain in Kefka's falling tower because "I won't run away anymore".This pisses me off to no end.
>>683810057his loli daughter has already seduced and secured a king. he literally could not have done better
>>683805230The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.I have been, and always shall be, your friend.
>>683810057Bro he didn't want to hold his daughter with bloodstained hands...
>>683810127You only get to make that speech when you're the one making the sacrifice, not as you watch a man burning to death as you do a sick airship wheelie into freedom.
>>683810057Poor Relm.>dad is a deadbeat murderous sociopath who'll kill anything for a hotdog and a handshake>completely abandons his wife and infant daughter>her grandfather, upon believing relm to be dead, IMMEDIATELY throws in his lot with the cult that worships the guy who killed his grandaughterWhat a family.
>Large list of character>90% of them suckNo one uses anyone but Terra/Celes/Sabin/Edgar and MAYBE Cyrus.No one fucking uses Relm or the old man or Gogo or fucking Umaro
>>683810130By then her daughter has already nuked shitloads of things with Ultima.
>>683810346>not using the blue mage>not using the feral child who makes a mockery of every fucking boss fight for half the gamePathetic.
>>683810346For me, it's Gau/Mog/Gogo/UmaroMisfits with no actual connection to the plot
>>683810275Didn't the mom die before Shadow left? Also Strago is not Relm's blood related grandfather.
>>683810463>Gogo>no relation to the plotBut that's Setzer's girlfriend (forma de brain damage)
>>683810346Relm's magic attack can hit as hard as Trance Terra's.
>>683810346S-Tier:Terra, Celes, Locke, Gau, RelmA-Tier: Edgar, Sabin (M-ATK), Strago, MogB-Tier: Shadow, SetzerC-Tier: Umaro, Cyan, SabinG-Tier: Gogo
>put the funny dice on the gambling man>shit on entire game from this point forwardLet me guess, you need "more"?
>>683810867>Mog above SetzerExplain yourself.
>>683810867Send umaro to the coliseum.
>>683810537I can't believe that someone still believes this retarded theory.
>>683811141Yeah, we all know Gogo is an amnesiac Banon.
>>683810130Relm is a mesugaki with shitloads of blood in her hands and doesn't give a fuck. Also Shadow specifically left her so the law won't hurt her while coming for his ass but with everything getting fucked in world pf ruin, I am sure the "law" is not there anymore.
>>683805230Let me guess: Koyori?
>>683807501>>683807480works on my machine
Why they didn't include the GBA versions extras in the pixel remasters? They would have been the ultimate versions if they had the extras.
>>683811237Now that's a take I can get behind
>>683811621Yeah that was a really strange decision
>>683810987Mog has way better stats and Dragoon Boots + Dragon Horn.Setzer's only strength is the meme dice that fall off completely and require taking the Master's Scroll away from a better auto-attacker.
>>683808253Oooh rad. I never knew that, either.
>>683809745
>>683811621>GBA version of 2 adds an entire fucking extra campaign and several huge improvements>Not in PRAbsolute fucking insanity IMO
>>683812468Mog is also one of the characters that can get perfect physical and magical evasion, but it's probably not worth it since if he does Relm can't, and also you can't do Dragoon Boots + Dragon Horn, and also he can get 255 pyhsical defense anyway. Honestly, I'm not sure why I even brought it up.
>>683813110>physical evasion
>>683813332How did they miss that one? And how did such an oversight make the game so much better?Man I love FF6. Especially mid game when they start chucking magic evade shields at you left and right. It's very easy to have a full party with at least 75% MBlock across the board.And I love Force Armors. I never see the worlds collide speed runners use them though and it makes me sad. As soon as I get one I stop to equip it asap.
>>683813332In the GBA version and forward, you silly-billy.
>>683808447Tales of Symphonia - either Kratos or Zelos depending on your choicesStar Ocean 2 - has a few, mostly of the flavor of "this character needs to join you for a dungeon, but at the end of it you can refuse to let them join" (Celine, Noel, Dias, and Leon).there is also a situation where a character joins you "permanently" but she can leave depending on your actions: Opera. After she joins you can do some optional content that will make her boyfriend Ernest show up during a story moment. if Ernest appears and you don't let him join your party, then Opera will permanently leave so she can go with Ernest.
Post cannon appearance
>>683805230because i didnt know exactly where the end was, or how long exactly i had to wait, so i accidentally triggered the sequence.it should have been more clear, or offered a prompt "escape now? y/n"
What did he mean by this?
>>683818324Out of 10!
>>683815641CAN NOT UNSEE. YOU MONSTER
>>683805230YOU A DARK SKIN NIGGA
>>683805230How tf was I supposed to know
Genuinely one of the biggest NO FUCKING WAY moments in games I've ever experienced, alongside the notion that you can save Cid from dying.
