This game is painfully mediocre, I don't understand why it hasn't been critiqued as much as it deserves.
skill issue
>>683846971It's garbage for normalfags, women, and feminized men. Naturally, it was popular on /v/.
Has the tencent psycho finally been banned or bored? Haven't seen him in a while.
>>683846971maybe because one has to buy the game once and nothing else to get the full experience, i know, the bare minimum. games got shit over time because muh investors
No one has ever cared about this game but you Tencent shills. And no, you can't ban anyone. You're a powerless Chinese game shill doing it likely for free.Your schizo ramblings aren't even worth calling out anymore. The whole board knows this game is a Tencent scam now.We did find out Tencent has a plant on the mod team. That alone was worth it. We also made him so paranoid about keeping his poohbearbux, he rangebanned half a country. lmao retard
>>683846971Because not enough people actually care about it to do so. You are in a post capitalism world where it doesn't matter whether anyone buys it or not, its subsidized by competing corporations trying to groom you into a transexual or something. I don't know what their goal behind all this really is, but that's how it works now. You pay for the games already through your taxes and it they use roundabout financing to make it seem like they haven't nationalized these companies. In Larian's case, you're dealing with chinky business. Its a CCP product.
>>6838469711: every /v/tard claims it's the worst game ever (most of them never played it) and some normalfags also dislike it because of turn based2: it's basically the first turn-based AAA iso/classic RPG we've had in... Ever. A lot of people don't want to trash it because we WANT more games like this. 3:Plenty of people criticized the story and characters.That being said, calling it mediocre is just being deliberately retarded. I can guarantee you it has better gameplay and visuals than whatever other iso CRPG you can name and that by itself makes calling it mediocre disingenuous.It has flaws, mainly narrative ones, but compared to other crpgs like it's predecessors or NWN, it might as well be a fucking masterpiece because those are awful.
>>683850597Its AAA and not even half the game Wasteland 3 was? Common man. Just because its chugs 300 watts from the wall on your 4090 doesn't mean its AAA. Its borderline slavjank.
>>683850770It's definitely jank, but nonetheless, it's the closest we have to a crpg with Naughty Dog/Rockstar production levels.And Wasteland 3? Come on now. I like W3, unlike most people, but even comparing it to BG3 is dumb.
>>683850597>some normalfags also dislike it because of turn basedKeep in mind that the first two BG games weren't turn based but RTwP, changing it to a generic turn based system was a dick move for OG fans of the series.
>>683850770You talking about jank and then bring up W3? Did you know its so broken and Inxile is so up their own asses that they closed the Steam forum pages? There’s even a game breaking up of a skill “Chain ambush” (best skill in the game) can softlock your game??
>>683847832This. Even if the gameplay/rpg mechanics are good it's unplayable for me because of repulsive characters and tone of the game.
>>683850985>OG FansSo no one.
>>683846971What's garbage about this game is the writing, cliche characters and an uninteresting main story. Only interesting side character is aunt Ethel. But the possibilities in builds is fun and that's what keeps people playing it. I don't know of any game released recently that compares in build variety.
>>683853532Anon don't be like that there's 3 of them, although they are all stuck in a retirement home
>>683853580It's not just the builds. It's also the visuals and the interactivity in general, it blows most other crpgs out of the water with things like verticality, being able to break/move almost everything, spells like speak to dead, disguises, the fact you can kill absolutely everyone you meet and it doesn't break the game.There's a lot of really interesting stuff about the game, the build variety is honestly pretty weak imo, and I like 5E.
>>68384697199% of the reviews are when it admitted it was a demo of a game in the alphe development stateMods alone make up for more than 75% of the content
>>683846971literal kike propaganda to push their dogshit fetishes
>>683853532Just the usual millennials pretending like the games were good because they don't like modern games. BG1 and 2 are barebones as fuck. They're like Owlcat games with none of the good things about Owlcat games.
No RPG with quest markers is worth playing. Simple as.
>>683846971is there a point to a low speed factor past a certain threshold?
>>683855153>mods make up more than 75% of the contentthe game doesn't have a single mod worth talking about yetwhy do you talk about a game you've obviously never touched
>>683846971It’s you who ought to be criticized. Your opinions are quite retarded
>>683853532>>683855019>>683855193Kids these days
>>683846971it's a slightly above average game with many flaws. it's truly a mystery why everywhere you go online if you give any constructive criticism of the game the fanboys come out the woodworks to tell you no it's actually a 10/10 masterpiece and the best RPG ever made. It's something about Larian games in general that attracts these kinds of losers
I pirated it and am having fun. It feels like mass effect story telling mixed with Xcom combat, fucking every female party member like shepherd is pretty novel. The freedom of choice is also pretty cool but some of the RNG can be shit at times, demanding saves every five minutes. Voice is acting is also not bad and the story telling is decent. Its a solid 6.5/10, pretty good but I'm not replaying.
>>683846971lmao /v/ is still the saddest place on the www. Worse than the fucking bron shit at this point kek.
>>683855709>post overall praising the game>gives 1 critique >6.5/10sounds like you like the game more than you're letting on anon
>>683851181I never had any issues with it. Not a single bug. Probably because I didn't play it on a windows 10 prebuilt meme machine with McAfee, Avast and tons of other brand name malware installed on it. Problems with offline games directly correlate with how much of a clueless retard the user is. With online games its usually just wifi packet loss causing cache corruption but the game takes the blame.
>>683846971Because act 1, which is the part of the game most people will spend the most amount of time in, is extremely good. The game only starts to decrease in quality after act 1, and only gets significantly worse in act 3, which many people barely touch because most people don't complete games that are this long.
>>683850770Its AA, not AAA
It was good but once it became popular I realized just how incredibly r*ddit the game is and that it’s for fags
>>683846971leftoids claimed it as a 'culture war' game so criticism is illegal and threads about it get hijacked by schizos talking about discord drama.
>>683846971Because it does a lot right, the voice acting isn't the same old generic American anime voice actor crap you hear everywhere. The gameplay actually is an RPG's gameplay unlike the Farcry skill tree openworld dialogue wheel games that pretend to be RPGs.And because of that it does get deserved praise but said praise also comes at the cost of normies and those that want to appeal to them defaulting to a "game good" mindset. It simply won't get any of the critique it might deserve because of this social aspect to it's fame.Expect anything that Larian does next to forego what really made BG3 impressive in favour of memes, waifu faggotry and yet again a narrative that shits itself after the set up when boredom and lack of motivation hits the writers.
>>683856072Larian has roughly the same amount of employees as Bethesda. Now obviously Bethesda has a larger budget than Larian, but in the main way that measuring this kind of stuff matters (the actual development manpower) it would be silly to say that BG3 isn't AAA. That being said, it should still be praised for being so good when it's Larian's first attempt at a AAA game.
>>683856060This, if the game could somehow maintain the multi threaded mystery and exploratory narrative of the first act it would have been a contender for the top with the other classics.As it stands it's just a really good framework for inspiration on what can make a modern RPG stand out.
>>683846971>I don't understand why it hasn't been critiqued as much as it deserves.Because the popularity in 99% about the gay vampire having sex with the bear. It went viral and the sheep are that up. Thats it. It became a thing that is just accepted as "good" by the brain dead normies that bought it because lol gay bear sex.
>>683856162>the voice acting isn't the same old generic American anime voice actor crap you hear everywherethe voice acting sucked, what the fuck is this meme? what the fuck is supposed to be good about it? everyone sound like they're a bored smirking redditor. Shart's voice in particular is like nails on a chalkboard, the fucking barbarian lady trying to sound tough is cringe as hell, and Gale literally just sounds like some random dude who's never acted before.it's not even that the game is that bad, it's that every single thing people try to highlight as the game's strengths is total shit.
>>683846971These posts are just sad./v/ is just sad in general nowadays.I have never seen this ammount of delusion coming from anywhere on the internet this past decade. Either this or it's the biggest tranny falseflag from discord since ER. Fuck hiroshimoot for disabling the IP counter.
>>683857175>i have no argument you guys are sad thowow you really showed us anon
>>683857175Tell me why the game is good.
>>683857206>answers this quickIt's a bot
>>683855667>10/10 masterpieceDefinite no.>the best RPG ever madeIt absolutely is, people who disagree either have not played very many computer RPGs or lack the knowledge to properly evaluate them.
>>683857239>>683857326Tell me why the game is good.
>>683857326I guess it depends on what you value in an RPG? There are RPG's with more engaging combat, Larian games at that. There are RPGs with better writing as well
>>683856895It's the fact that the acting is more thespian in nature, although I do have to agree that Karlachs anger sounds really cringe and forced, Gale has a similar issue to Wyll where he's an incredibly boring character that doesn't have much to say outside of his predefined character, so basically no one could cultivate an interesting performance with what's given.
>>683857465Absolutely unparalleled interactivity by the standards of the genre, it's as simple as that.>>683857468It's the whole package really, chiefly just how interactive and mechanics-driven it is compared to every other game in the genre. >There are RPG's with more engaging combat, Larian games at that.Yes and no, the combat system in itself is excellent, again chiefly due to just how much interactivity there is. The one knock is that I personally I didn't find it challenging enough, but that's more an issue of my familiarity with these kinds of games and systems.>There are RPGs with better writing as wellThis is very true, I understand the game had a rather large number of rewrites and it becomes more apparent as the game goes on, and I think trying to make virtually everything a part of the grand conspiracy is not the best approach.
>>683846971its the most complete roleplaying experience, in a package thats quite nice to look at. other rpgs may have better combat systems, writing, voice-acting etc. but this game does all of that quite well and offers great freedom in ways to complete each quest. even the order in which you complete these quests can be completely different.
>>683856434>more than 100k people daily are still playing it a year later because of one 60-second bear sex scene
>>683846971The game is honestly amazing but it literally starts falling apart at the end of Act 2. The peformance starts tanking, but sure it's still playable.Then you get to Act 3 and it's full of random no name NPCs and half baked cutscenes, and the duct tape holding the game together explodes.The felogyr's fireworks quest is the absolute worst shit I've ever done in a game. Literally waiting 60 seconds between NPC turns, not having an actual resolution, it was so bad it almost made me stop playing the game.Other insanely buggy quests like the ghosts in the artist's house (remember that random guy from act 1?) and fighting on the way to Gortash (my game softlocked because NPCs wouldn't move to a different floor).The fact that it's still getting patches because the game wasn't fucking finished when it came out is embarassing, but fans look the other way because they spend 80 hours in Act 1 before replaying it 15 times.
>>683857936It's freedom I think stems from them deliberately designing it in a way that doesn't really change much of anything until a handful of breakpoints.The absolute tower infiltration is to my mind the best example where things are really linear/binary, that's not bad perse but I do think you overstate how much freedom there actually is in progression.
>>683846971It's ok if you're not a games target demographic. No one's gonna make you play it.
>>683858065Just recently did an honor mode playthrough and these issues seem to be fixed as of now, though I did not take that approach to the Gortash fight.
>>683858096>The absolute tower infiltration is to my mind the best example where things are really linear/binaryI really don't see how that's the case, it functions almost exactly the same as the goblin camp.
>>683857930>Absolutely unparalleled interactivityIf I wanted pure freedom and interactivity I'd play Minecraft. I play RPGs for:>tactical combat>character writing>immersionBG3 is weak on all of that.
>>683857930>I didn't find it challenging enoughthis is gonna be a big one for me though. I can't get any enjoyment out of steamrolling my way through a game, hence me calling the combat unengaging. not to mention, the enemies waiting for 20 seconds to not do anything seems to happen to me more than anyone else. this makes the game fucking annoying to play even if i have some difficulty mods installed to get more out of it
>>683858383The difference here is that the interactivity exists to fuel narrative decisions, tactical options and is fundamentally mechanics-driven, this is how roleplaying games are supposed to work.
>>683857206>ArgumentAgainst what?
>>683858096i do agree, if you play through the game more than once it doesn't take long for you to start to see through the illusion of its design, both in quest and dialogue. such as with how unique dialogue choices and reactivity, which may seem distinctive at first are usually funneled into the exact same responses depending on the content. the game is still a massive milestone in the crpg genre, but unfortunately, it's still just a game and can't feasibly account for everything like a ttrpg
>>683858380That's true but the gobbo camp is smaller and has a bit more freedom when it comes to the initial approach. So it's much more difficult to notice how things are running on a track there.
>>683858383>tactical combatit literally has the best encounter design of any crpg on the market>character writingit's really good for some character, okay for others and not great for a few of them.>immersionI don't know exactly what you mean by this
>>683858409>I can't get any enjoyment out of steamrolling my way through a gameWell, this is what every RPG is like once you've played enough of them, not really an issue inherent to this game.>the enemies waiting for 20 seconds to not do anythingYeah, that happens if they can't find any beneficial action to do. Usually they do a good job of designing encounters so that you can't break the AI too hard, but there's some notable spots like the goblin camp exterior and Gortash's keep where good positioning really fucks over the AI.
>>683858589>has a bit more freedom when it comes to the initial approachNot really, there's nothing that says you have to pretend to be a cultist or enter through the front door.
>>683858574Yeah, the illusion is one of the biggest design concepts when it comes to Crpgs, and while BG3 does an impressive and exemplary job at it, I think the titans of the genre hide this to much better extent by providing you with a greater amount of world/character altering moments to make you feel like you really did something.With a different narrative and a more personal ending I think it could have really gone the distance and earned itself a badge of honour.
Act 3 sucks
>>683858649maybe that's the case for you. there are still games that can challenge me, or at the very least make me think. BG3 isn't one of them, and someone doesn't require any extensive expertise in the genre to get to the point of finding the game a cakewalk
>>683858641>it literally has the best encounter design of any crpg on the marketand this is why you should never listen to a BG3fag's opinion on anything.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5-zCYG6TYw
>>683859293I don't understand what point you're attempting to make with that video.
>>683859337>"BG3 has the best encounters of any rpg on the market">"wait what do you mean it's bad that you can one-shot a boss with a meme weapon?"yet more evidence why nobody should ever listen to a BG3fag's opinion on anything.
>>683859081I just finished it last night. It's such a slog.
>>683859406anon i don't think that's what he means by encounter design
>>683859486>the encounter design is great>just ignore the most important encounters in the gamecontinuing the lesson on why nobody should ever respect a BG3fag's opinion on anything.
>>683859406Yes, what do you mean it's bad? I don't understand how that's bad. A niche strategy that almost no one will know about or resort to without looking it up online is not a sign that the encounter design is bad. If anything, it showcases the freedom the game allows in how you approach combat, which is a good thing. You are being very strange.
>>683859545>"no it's unironically a good thing that this is designed as baby's first video game with even the highest difficulty levels being called out as piss easy by people who are even moderately familiar with the genre"https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3xiyxACYVY0just in case anyone thought we were running low, we now have yet further proof why you should never listen to a BG3fag's opinion on literally anything ever.
>>683860003>video about some random guy saying the damage is too highI genuinely have no idea what you're even trying to say. First you use a niche skill that requires you to save up absurd amounts of money to one-shot bosses (and the money is deleted when you use the skill) and now just a random ass video with effectively no relevancy? Again, how does any of this explain why you think the encounter design is bad?
Outside of turn based combat what’s mediocre about it?
>>683860203
>>683860003I wouldn't say that it being easy is the problem, tons of great games and RPGs are very easy. It's moreso the way combat starts to play out when you figure out the quirks that leads to a very boring and at times time consuming experience.
>>683860203Certain companions are mediocre (Wyll, Minthara, Jaheira) or bad (Minsc, Halsin) and the story falls apart in act 3. Otherwise, it's great.
>>683859293It's funny that if this was in an old game like Morrowind you'd be praising it nonstop, all I see is clever use of game mechanics.
>>683846971Because the baseline quality of games has gone down so low that this is pearl in a sea of shit.
>>683858837>I think the titans of the genre hide this to much better extent by providing you with a greater amount of world/character altering moments to make you feel like you really did something.I can't think of a better one outside of Arcanum, most CRPGs are not that good.
>>683860230If you've actually figured out the game, combat should be 1-2 turns MAX.
>>683850043https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/cl420wT0IUfcT0t9OdZmLA/
>>683846971Everything about this game is garbage, but there is no denying that it is a very intricate WEG (Western Erotic Game). So of course trannies and feminized men love it.
>>683860394>wife
>>683860315It's also a clever use of game mechanics that is extremely risky without save scumming and requires you to basically save every bit of the gold you make in a playthrough for this one purpose. I usually only have maybe 30k gold midway through act 3 if I'm spending it like normal in act 1 and 2, which wouldn't be enough to one-shot Raphael. In that video you'll also notice that he only had a 51% chance to even land that attack, so if he had missed and was on honor mode for example, he'd be in a ton of trouble.
>>683860359>you can't judge the game unless you complete all encounters in 1-2 turns
Oh boy another riveting thread where 4chan users who only play games they can jerk off to pretend to be the arbiters of taste. What's bad about this game? Why it caters to certain groups I don't like so it's awful! Let me take some talking points I cribbed off a Youtube critic to prove why this game is for trann-I mean why it's objectively not good.
>>683846971RPG's had been in a slump for a decade. It gets praised because zoomers have honestly never seen a good RPG release. It's a shame this is the best we'll get: a solid game ruined by it's early access model.
>Thread criticizing BG3>Another thread shilling new Dragon AgeInteresting
>>683860621It also gets praise by anyone that's not a braindead culture war faggot, because it is objectively a very, very well-made and expansive RPG.
>>683860675Sure, a well made game. Very good. Not even close to 'the best RPG ever made' or anything of the like though, I consider it pretty deeply flawed at it's core, and I don't think this is the game we'll all be talking about in ten years (outside mods or stuff running away with it).
>>683860163>I genuinely have no idea what you're even trying to say.My point exactly.You are too stupid to understand that being able to easily and consistently trivialize all encounters in a game, against endgame bosses no less, is a sign of bad design.This illustrates that you (and BG3fags in general) not only have any idea what makes a good Baldur's Gate game, but a good RPG, or any video game for that matter.>just a random ass video with effectively no relevancyA guy who is far better at the game than anyone in this thread explaining a fundamental flaw with the game design... isn't relevant in a conversation about game design.You're clearly just the kind of faggot to move goalposts, lowering the bar of what makes a good game until even something as half-assed as BG3 can clear it, then turn a blind eye to games that have done the exact same things much better many years ago. You aren't able to argue in good faith, so there's no point in arguing with the likes of you. You're a lolcow.
>>683861006>being able to easily and consistently trivialize all encounters in a game, against endgame bosses no less, is a sign of bad design.That is literally all RPGs. Again, your point might as well be gibberish.
>>683860904>Not even close to 'the best RPG ever made' or anything of the like thoughNonsense, it is objectively the best crpg made so far, any notion to the contrary is blind nostalgia.
>>683860315>"b-b-b-but an infamously buggy game from TWO THOUSAND AND FUCKING TWO is just as bad as a hundred million dollar game released in 2023!"Do you have any fucking idea how pathetic that sounds, shill?
>>683861006>consistentlyYou can't use that strategy consistently thoughever.
>>683860558>What's bad about this game?>>683859293
>>683853532>One of the most popular and well-regarded CRPG series from the genre's "golden era".>"Nobody was a fan of these old games, actually."You faggots are ridiculous.
>>683861106>That is literally all RPGs.Try again. Maybe play something besides bethesda/larian slop.
>>683860675>NOOOO DON'T CRITICIZE LE GAMEThe combat is fucking normie garbage. Boring, shallow, repetitive and slow as shit.What now, culture war faggot?
>>683853418Feminist zoomers just love virtual gay pornos and tentacle sex.
>>683861352Not an issue unique to this game, and even in that regard it's in the absolute top tier of creativity.
>>683855197This.
>>683850985DnD is turn based, it always has been. BG1 was made into RTWP to appeal to the Diablo 1 fanbase, but even then the game is still technically divided into turns, each round is 6 seconds and each turn is 1 minute.
>>683861352>2 minutes to take out three fucking jellieslolYeah, I think I will replay Baldur's Gate and Baldur's Gate 2 instead of this WEG abomination.
>>683861352>Boring, shallow, repetitive and slow as shit.Just like BG1+2
>>683861728>turn-based is just as slow as real-time combat
>>683861728>"reeeeeee noooooooooo the original was never good!!!!!!"zoomers don't have anything good, all the slop they're served is rotten leftovers of gen x/millennial nostalgia, and they melt down when you reveal the truth.
>>683860203the camera suckswriting is horny as fuck on an almost subconscious level, the tone shifts too rapidly and too often unwieldy inventory uncompelling characters with epic backstories that needed a poorly shoehorned explanation for why the game starts as a lvl 1 goblin slaying rompact 3 in general 5e is a pretty boring system total dedication to having every line of dialogue voiced means descriptive text and narrative dialogue is stripped down to barebones leaving a lot of conversations and establishing text lackingreliance on awkward facial mocap instead of descriptive text about characters reactions leads to more confusion, tying into the above point music is nothing special and the one decent battle track gets annoying after dozens of hours1, 2, 6, and 7 are my biggest issues with the game.
>>683858475Very rarely does the interactivity fuel narrative decisions in interesting ways (if it effects the narrative at all). Not that I blame them, it's very difficult to make that happen in a fully voiced game like BG3, but that's the reality.
>>683861705This is hilariously poor gameplay to be fair, whomever is playing clearly does not have very good builds nor know how to use his abilities efficiently.
>>683861705>I will replay Baldur's Gate and Baldur's Gate 2 insteadWhy would you want to play shitty games where you can't sodomize bears and tentacle people with your girl cock?
>>683861728>old highly regarded thing was actually never good!>no i'm not a fan of the genre i'm just a fan of baldur's gay 3!and why exactly did you think this would get us to value your opinion?
BG2 > BG3 > BG1
>>683860357Do you really think so? By the end of BG3 it just feels like you got thrown from one plot point to the other the moment the writers got bored with them. The ending and character arcs dont really feel like anything you influenced barring participation as a spectator.
>>683862042i think the point of the webm was that you could do the bare minimum in combat and get by just fine
>>683846971It has, but shills have a way of shouting out opposition. Not effectively, just loudly.
>>683860359Idk man, some of those later fights feel like formalities where you just wait for enemies to make movements, it's time consuming because you still have to wait for them to slowly plod here and there.
>>683862235>muh shillsIs there a boogeyman any bigger than this?
>>683862131They don't care if you respect them, they just need to find some inane justification to pretend that their generation isn't trapped in a declining culture.
>>683862271god
>>683862251They won't make any movements if you kill them all before they get a turn.
>>683861974>writing is horny as fuck on an almost subconscious level, the tone shifts too rapidly and too often The cardinal sin of BG3. It was like playing a contemporary dating sim half the time, but one that got periodically broken up by people telling you how important their mission was. The Sword Coast sure has changed since I last visited, I didn't know it was now modern day Portland.
>>683860675You can have something that's well made like a super cat but that hardly means it will ever have the influence or appeal of an everyday driver. BG3 is great testbed of ideas but the discussion surrounding it is hardly about it's quality objectively, it's the subjective that matters here.
>>683861352That looks like proper RPG combat, the other games in the genre that get praised here have much lower depth when it comes to terrain interactivity, positioning and builds than this.
>>683862271Russia.
>>683862131>>683861770>>683861963BG1+2 is so boring, shallow, and repetitive that you've got to install SCS and mod the shit out of it just to add some depth to the combat.
>>683862417>"nooooooooo taking an hour to kill basic bitch enemies is proper rpg combat!!"If it's so good, then why does the game regress from RTWP combat which the two previous games used to great success?
Popular thing bad, unique snowflake good!
>>683862324You can't do that every fight and arguing for alpha striking is honestly a weird point of view considering you're trying to argue that a time consuming process of nuking and exploits is the definitive counter argument.
>>683862516Nigga what? I've heard people say it's boring because they couldn't get into it, but to say anything 2nd ed is shallow is just completely wrong, and so is the claim that it's repetitive.
>>683862642>Popular thing badYes.
>>683862642this but unironically
>>683853418Anime is more disgusting than homosexuality
warlockracy saying it was good btfo's any anti-shill on /v/. the game is kino, deal with it.
I just wish the combat wasn't so shit
>>683862648>You can't do that every fightThere's literally like one fight you can't reliably win initiative in if you know what you're doing. It's also not time consuming at all and requires no particular preparation, you just have to know how to manage action economy and make/buy good items whenever you see them.
>>683862828what about gay anime?
>>683862697>but to say anything 2nd ed is shallow is just completely wrongIt's really not, character building and spell effects in 2e is objectively far more straight-forward than any later edition of D&D.
>>683846971Because it was faggot centric and made for giga coomers, even by larians standards this was too fucking much
>>683861352This game was clearly designed for simpletons. I wonder how well it would have performed if it were just a virtual porn novel and didn't have this crappy combat tacked on
>>683862892>literally who has an opinionok?
>>683863084keep coping. you lost.
>>683863032>even by larians standards this was too fucking muchDOS3 in complete shambles before it even releases
>>683862516Oh, I get it. You're trying to saul alinsky off of this post.>>683861352
>>683863102lost what? what are you trying to say?
>>683862908Of course you can win most initiatives due to the team based initiative and 1d4+Dex system they used. But many fights have enemy numbers and positions as well as reinforcement mechanics that mean you often will spend quite some time waiting, it's not so bad on a per encounter basis but cumulatively it gets grating.
>>683863157Yeah I have no hopes for DOS3 even if they ever make another one.As much shit people gave DOS2 it was leagues better than this fucking disaster of a game, in DOS2 you have actual romance and sensible developments.BG3 was just a fucking trainwreck from both Larians side and it being based on Shadow Isles which is tranny/coomer central in DnD universe didn't help either
>>683863306forgotten realms* also 5e edition which is the worst so far
>>683863306Dos2 has a generic story but it wraps up the various threads much more neatly while having a more interesting choice of final outcome.The gameplay to my mind was much better, combat and character progression is much more fun even when considering moments like the burning gallows.
>>683863306>in DOS2 you have actual romance and sensible developmentsi'm surprised more people haven't brought this up. i remember in my first run i wasn't even halfway through act 1 and shart was telling me how i was one of the most special person she'd ever met and how i'd changed her for the better lmao. i don't even like this bitch nor was she the character i romanced and apparently i had already had such a profound impact on her
>>683863506I really don't see them making another DOS game unless they try to restart the plot again, even though that would be undeniably retarded considering the shit you had to pull during OS2 to even get an ending.
>>683850043this conspiracy doesn't even make sense. surely if le tencent botting was real and somehow only tencent could make a game popular they would bot the shit out of a game with microtransactions.
>>683856895>the voice acting suckedNo?> everyone sound like they're a bored smirking redditorNo?>Shart's voice in particular is like nails on a chalkboard,No?> the fucking barbarian lady trying to sound tough is cringe as hell,true but still less embarrassing than the kingmaker soft voice but you had to pretend she was scary barb girl>Gale literally just sounds like some random dude who's never acted before.No?why did bg3 buckbreak /v/ this hard. lol you niggers just say stupid shit to epic own some game, is it because you can't run the game or something?
>>683863601I don't think we need another game in the divinity verse considering it's had it's pantheon built up and torn down multiple times at this point, I might be up for another ego draconis but that's just because I want to see Larian tackle something other than turn based for a change of pace.TB sci-fi with imm-sim elements might be fun but I genuinely don't trust their writers with the genre.
>>683846971It has tencent investment so it gets bumped.
>>683850043Btw Fallout and Starfield won
>>683863742>No?Fascinating analysis.
>>683863767I honestly think next turn based game should be shadowrun but I don't trust larian anymore after BG3, they let their coomerism in too deep and their writers cannot be trusted anymore.It's a fucking shame because I've been hoping for someone to pick up that IP after the disaster cybercoom was.Imagine something like DOS but it's Shadowrun Returns/Dragonfall/Honk Kong 1:1
>>683863889>make subjective blatantly wrong blanket statement>that's not true>errmm evidenceuse your ears dipshit?
>>683863742Karlachs moments do detract from BG3 and BG3 alone, you don't have to try and drag Amiri into this as an attempt to deflect.I won't suddenly try to defend say new Vegas' voice acting by pointing to Andromeda.
>>683863742This is the most passive aggressive and pathetic post I've seen on /v/ in a long time, no wonder you like BG3 you have the personality of a tiktok addicted 16 year old girl. Good luck on your transition.
>>683863974>subjective>blatantly wrongok faggot
>>683863937Eh, shadowrun is already very pozzed so it might be worth a try at least.But yeah those guys are gonna way far up their own asses after BG3, I don't see them making anything but an embarrassing bunch of theater kids that ham up the scene.I do hope they vary the age and race of their characters dramatically so that they're so incompatible as "mates" that they just roll as bros of settled differences though. More Legolas and Gimli less Halsin and Shadow heart.
>>683863742Why are trannies like this?
>>683863979true except no. if this general wants to attack bg3 and suck off pathfinder cock. its only fair to look at pathfinder fault which boy isn't it crazy how both games feature half/orc couples one lesbian 5 mins into the game, or furry rick and morty fox, or shitty combat or several black companions a piece or how wotr only refer to the abilities with the default "she" pronouns, or retarded pathfinder rules like casters needing to use dex to shoot magic, or boring ass mash these dozens of uninteresting stat block encounters to the dirt with basic bitch pre buffing or how the romances are far more embarrassing waifu bait shit like "actually im the prettiest girl of all time" but like nobody knows that because i cut my hair so you have no competition haha lucky you" "I'm a good natured trad wifey succubus teehee no nothing interesting will happen just experience this basic bitch babies first hentai game story" or how the combat as a whole feels incredibly janky with ever changing movement/turn rates, or outside of the mythic paths every quest is really really really uninteresting fluff including the main quests or the awful sim city kingdom/crusade management systems that the games literally let you turn off because its so shit or how even though theres 100s of options in relatively there's like 5 real ones and everything else is just alternatives of those or how the games are still presented like its 2000's and the assets are reused even to rouge trader 8 years later, or how elevation and maps are basically a flat plane, or how you barely can interact with the world in anyway.My theory is that pathfinder is seen as a more hardcore alternative and gamers being retarded faggots that care way to much about stupid shit care about being le hardcore so ignore all this shit. i never in my life played more overrated games than owlcuck shit.
>>683863994nigga I'm being full aggressive. fuck you. you're retarded.
>>683864414To be fair all games like this are pozzed as fuck.Kingmaker had the cuck orc, WotR had the fag elf and others.Then you have Tyranny which also had a lot of faggotry and pronouns.And then you had PoE which is also faggotshit.Only ones that weren't turboshit were the shadowrun ones.
The voice acting did kind of suck for BG3, everyone having the same accent was really off putting for what was allegedly such a diverse realm. Nothing compared to the actual diversity of bg1/2 voice acting.
>>683865203List of actually good voice acting in BG3:>JaheiraActually sounds like an old and sad person using thrills to stave off suicide.>Astarion/RaphaelTop tier catty aristocratic faggots, no other notes required.>Lae'zelSounds appropriately disgusted at everything, you can basically hear the spit coming out of your speakers whenever she calls you a faggot in Githspeak.>GortashSounds like the huge dork he is.>potion vendor in the circusSounds like the absolute cretinous freak he is.
>>683865510The thing about Jaheira that stands out is just how well she impersonates the original VA's work, I honestly did almost think it was the same woman for a moment.
>>683864414Anon, you can't just use Pathfinder as a shield when it comes to BG3. The game has it's flaws all on its own and rarely do I see people compare them earnestly, the same way people pick fun at the tranny elf in Wrath or the tranny in DAI, people pick fun at various parts of BG3.
>>683865510Throw in Ketheric as well. Dude did a great job sounding like a depressed father who doesn’t give a shit anymore
>>683868103Nah, I forget the actors name but J.Joana was the most phoned in performance in the entire game. Sounded like he thought the script was a joke.
>>683863826Yeah we know. BG3 doesn't have a single DLC or sequel planned because it was a Tencent sham. LMFAO
>>683850043LOLLMAO
>>683863648> surely if le tencent botting was real and somehow only tencent could make a game popular they would bot the shit out of a game with microtransactions.Congrats. You just discovered how Genshit and Honcuck Starail works.
>>683869751
>>683846971True turn-based CRPGs don't really get the sort of production values that this game got, and most studios have been moving away from traditional CRPGs, so it was the perfect niche for them to fill when it's mostly abandoned by most AAA studios at this point.Outside of this, you get some really good AA budgeted CRPGs.
>>683869751>open (((public voting)))LOLLMAO
>>683869883>WeChatBilliBilli
>>683849815>full experienceBoy I do love visiting the upper city at night to finally finish Karlachs companion quest
>>683850770>borderline slavjankBecause Liarian outsources development to eastern European sweat shop studios, its why the game was never finished: sanctions against Russia killed the development.
This another thread from an OP who doesn't even play CRPGs?
>open bg3 thread>it's the tencent schizo seething and posting the same shit for 4+ hours againevery single time
>>683869845>Pajeet seething because brits doesn’t give a shit about some some gay space gameLOL>>683869883>Vatnik seething because he can’t use his bot army to rig the resultsLMAO
>>683870175>CRPGIts on console and the official modding tools were gimped to work on console
>>683865203I immediately hated the fact that all of the player character voices were British or whatever. Wanted to play a dwarf and all the voices made you sound like a posh fag. There was a complete lack of range.>>683865510Auntie Ethel was great too.
>>683847832t. genshin player that squeals when he gets the new loli
>>683860003Doubling HP has the same effect as halfing all damage duh
>>683870383BG1 and 2 are on console, as well as the Pathfinder CRPGs. Torment as well.The official modding tools aren't as robust because almost nobody used the ones for DOS2.
>>683870642The originals werent on consoles you dumbass>compute role playing... on consoleslmao gtfo you dork
>>683870749... you fucking moron, the point is you idea of "if it appears on a console, it's not a CRPG" is retarded.jesus fucking christ, dude...
>>683870642>BG1 and 2 are on consoleAverage BG3 tard. May as well call them mobile games because shitdog ported them to android.
>>683870749CRPG is a subgenre of RPG anon.It's a style that originated from old-school computer RPGs, it being on an actual computer is not a criteria.Anyone who's actually a fan of the genre understands that. Are you just shitposting in here?
>>683860003>spell is called “inflict wounds”>”Why does it inflict so many wounds? Nerf all damage!”So glad Larian never listened to this kind of feedback.
>>683870854don't samefag dude. it's especially obvious when you out yourself barely over a minute with the same mistake over misunderstanding what a CRPG is in the exact same erroneous way
>>6838708791. Bioware games are not old school rpgs 2. It was called crpg because it was made for computers, unlike gookslop that was made for consoles
>>683870823Whats wrong with it?
>>683870994I literally just told you that's how it originated, and you regurgitated it back like you were saying something new.In addition to your other idiotic comment.So you don't actually play CRPGs like was said elsewhere. At least that much is obvious now.
>>683871112Look I really dont care about your self important, special snowflake definition of a "crpg". Calling something computer role playing is laughable when its gimped for console compatibility, Bioware game design has nothing to do with that.Sorry you are no special and just another rpg fag.
>>683871297Anon, that's like being told that a sandwich is two pieces of bread with meat and other condiments in between it, and you saying you don't care about "that special snowflake definition". It's just the definition. Not anything special.
>>683871406>go to McDonalds>one Hamburger sandwich please This is you
>>683871505It takes a special minded person to say that a Hamburger isn't a sandwich so confidently, and think they won some imaginary point. I'll give you that much...
>>683871643Look at this retard and laugh
>>683871675...Jesus Christ dudeI don't think I've ever seen an anon self-own themselves like you have in the manner you did. I'm not sure how to even reply honestly.
>one vegetarian hamburger please
I honestly can't tell if the shitposter either1. Do this shit because they think they have to be cool and edgy to fit in on an anonymous Mexican taco filling forum2. They are doing it to farm (you)s thinking they are being le epic trooools3. They are doing it became they are autistic /pol/ tards who are seething because of Chinese Tencent men and woke shit living in their head rent free4. They are fanboys of some other devs and just want shit on Larian5. They are just mentally ill
>>683871850>everybody who calls out my half finished slop is le shitposter!!!!
That's the weird thing. They're only making themselves sound retarded. I'm not sure how it's working out in their mind that it's supposedly meant to make another person mad when they're confidently fumbling simple basic definitions.
>>683846971Did anyone else play through act 1 and enjoy it a lot but have zero motivation to continue playing?
>boy I feel like playing a computer role playing game today>boots up gookstation
...does Tencent schizo not know what a CRPG actually is?
>>683871850It’s actually one of my bots. I decided to let it learn about human interaction solely through /v/. I don’t why it obsesses this much over bg3 specifically, but I wanna see if a new GOTY makes it change its behavior
>>683846971It was the Skyrim of CRPGs.
>>683849815This. DLC is a scam and its jarring to me how people just eat that shit up. They're purposefully making an incomplete game in order to milk more money out of you later.
>>683872646Kinda I guess
>>683872250Its not a bioware clone
>>683871675Imagine lacking this much self awareness.
>>683872010I had that. It starts out strong but then kinda falls flat. I guess i got filtered. I just got bored and started playing other stuff and kinda forgot about the game.
>>683872010Not with BG3, but with Elden Ring. I know not technically "acts", but I think I prefer that style of game in a more contained environment like Dark Souls or Sekiro rather as a very lengthy open world game.I imagine BG3 might be that way with a lot of people who'd prefer a more contained and less open CRPG. It's really damn long.
>>683861352>player is shit>this somehow means the game is badI remember back in the day we had a saying on /v/: git gud.
>>683873454https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmCjRomCQAE
>>683846971it's a crpg that normies can play and release in a playable state instead of needing a year of patches to worki hope it brings more people into the crpg genre
>>683846971I haven't seen a single screenshot, a single design from this game that looks even remotely interesting.
>>683873926I think the main issue is if they try to look for another BG3, they might have severely misplaced expectations since it had much bigger production values than would be typical.I'm actual curious what WOULD be a good "next RPG" for someone who was new to the genre and got in due to BG3.
>>683846971Returning to this game after WotR made me miss my 70 AC monk. this game AC is too low and you still can be hit normally
>>683868224If he's bad i think i blame larian, JK simmons is good but he voiced jaded and tired of all this shit-type character hence the performance
>>683846971>Oh my God, you can have steamy gay bear sex!?? OH MY GOOOOOOOD!!! This game is the game of the century! You can sex everything! So unique and brave and inclusive!it's a game for NPCs so I'm not surprised it's so popular
>>683874607Need to tighten up that post with a few more buzzwords I think
>>683874661>gay sex is now a buzzworld for bg3 trannies
>>683874889More succinct, well done.I think you can do better though. This time with more oomph.
>>683874607
>>683846971To critique something is neutral. You meant to use criticized.
>>683846971it was fixed by modders a long time ago
>>683874982They literally had to walk back the romance a bit because a lot of people were getting gay sex option for just talking to the NPC in a friendly way.
>>683874982>hey do you want to see my cool magic trick?>sure>im glad you want gay sex with me!
>>683846971its a game where i am free to do anything. i can finally kill all the niggers
>>683876374It's clear that sven realized too late that he hasn't finished like half the game, so they shipped a mvp and moved on.Initially the shadow lands were but an episode before you reach bg and the second half of the game starts.Shar storyline was completely scrapped and therefore selune's quest line, too.Ketheric was sharks chosen and had shit to do with the absolute. It's clear they wanted dichotomy in all major quest lines, but totally misjudged the scope of the game.
>>683873830Boomer detected
>>683868103Among the worst va in the game.He totally just rapped his lines in one go and moved on.
>>683866924Except not.Minsc and jaheira are cartoon versions of their former representations in bg2
Can i play bg3 without having to partake in any degeneracy and can i murder degenerates?
>>683876947Yes, you can kill literally anyone. There's one person you need Shadowheart in your party to kill, though, so don't kill her until you're done with that.
>>683846971The entire game feels like it's DMed and the PCs played by a bunch of zoomer tiktokers with little in the way of actual genuineness, everything has to be wink wink nudge nudge with a dab of irreverent humour. In short it's exactly what people like nowadays. No reason for it to be criticized when the writing hits all their right spots and all the encounters can be easily bypassed by looking up the solutions online. This is THE CRPG for the modern gamer.
>>683877292Yeah good luck killing Gale, the main gay rapist
>>683877848Gale is probably the easiest to kill>don’t drag him out of the portal/chop off his hand>don’t feed him magic >let Orin kill himYou can even get an early win by sending him on a jihad against the brain
>>683849815BG3 was never finished you retard, you payed 70 dollars for half a game.
>>683877796They wanted the CriticalRole audience
>>683878076The game is 100+ hours long, has a shit ton of content, and can be completed from start to finish. If you consider cut content a sign of an "unfinished" game, then no piece of media that ever existed is finished by your asinine standards.Also, you """payed""" 10000 rupees for half an education.
>>683877292You can kill him as DURGE at the beginning of the game, as a bonus you take down Waterdeep which is like the San Francisco of Faerun
>>683878416Meant for>>683877848Also, yeah, if you don't give him any magic items he leaves to go die somewhere away from people.
>>683878405Shit game, cuckold cat poster.>whites are dying out and appease illiterate latinosTopkek
>>683878405>has a shit ton of contentYeah and most of it is fucking garbage. Act 2 is garbage. Act 3 is just nonsense. This isnt about cutting overly ambitious content, but entire chunks of the game.>rupeesOnly Indians here are the BG3 shills lmao
>>683878617>bg3 hater>thinks he's making a point by shitting out inane /pol/turd babble that nobody but him can understandEvery time.>>683878896>fucking garbage>garbage>nonsenseStellar argumentation. Might have as well wrote "gaem bad", would've been the same.
>>683846971I love this game but the amount of forced gayshits is baffling, Alfira and Lakrissa, the iron gnome lesbians, Aylin and Isobel, the emperor and Ansur, Halsin etc
>>683879004>Act 1>Cazadors mansion is a gothic mansion overlooking the lower city>Act 3>Cazadors mansion is inside the outer walllolololol
>>683860657There are a few articles saying that thetwo games shouldn't be compared.It's pretty funny seeing them scramble to defend Bioware's honor.
>>683879512>have to climb up a watchtower and go along the wall to get to Cazador’s mansion>can see the entire lower city from the entrance I already know you didn’t play the game. You don’t need to prove it
>>683879692You just know Veilguard will have a day 1 dlc
>>683878896>This isnt about cutting overly ambitious contentFully explorable upper city is LITERALLY just that, you disingenuous retard.Lower city is already gigantic by itself, while also having the largest quest density in the entire game. Plus, an average player is going to be way above 100 hour mark at that point, likely having fatigue setting in. Having yet another 50~80+ hour zone after lower city is guaranteeing barely anybody will finish the game.>inb4 but they dun haev to maek it le 50 hour longThen you would just shitpost about how the game is """unfinished""" by the virtue of upper city not being a grand long act. As if nobody knows how you disingenuous contrarian clowns operate.
>>683880420It's big and ugly as shit, and broken and unfinished. Great job larian
>>683847428of all the games to say that lmfao
>>683880628>i'll just repeat myself again tee-hee it'll be so funny and cute XDAs if we needed any more proof that fervorous BG3 haters are disingenuous shitposters with nothing of substance to say past the few regurgitated """arguments""" they picked up from other clowns like themselves.
>>683880817It's my diary part in the thread, so if multiple people are saying it then...
>>683850597>That being said, calling it mediocre is just being deliberately retarded.calling it anything but mediocre is being deliberately retarded. Acquire a personality and stop getting butthurt when your favorite bing bing wahoo doesn't get it's dick sucked by every single person
>>683850597rtwp is better, larian games are ass
Codextrannies still seething over this game I see. Haven't seen them this bad since Skyrim released.
>>683850978BG2 had stars like Jim Cummings and Maurice LaMarche
>>683846971pirated it, had fun with it, will come back after the big patch to play as Dark Tav + mods + fuck Laezel
>>683881453>he's still crying to this dayThought you'd move on to new hot popular thing to be contrarian about.
>>683881554 -> >>683881343
>>683881683
>>683846971I doubt any game you like is better than mediocre.
>>683881781Selfies aren't allowed outside of /soc/.
܂>>683881781>same filenamelmfao that really is himimagine hating on a game so much it lives rent free in your head for a year
>>683846971Playing real DnD with normies is worse.
>>683882083Larian games are still ass after a year
>>683872861*cough cough* Elden Ring
Because it's a Dungeons and Dragons game, and DnD is a sacred cow to a huge amount of people present on this board. They will excuse literally anything with the DnD brand on it.
>>683861352>range attacking with karlach, a barbarian>being level 6 and still having to read icon tooltips>fumbling around spells like you haven't been playing for at least 10 hours at this pointHave you considered your problem is that you just suck at video games?
>>683882614Then why did Dark Alliance flop hard then?
>>683882451well at least you're not denying that you're obsessed so that's something, I guess
>>683846971It came right after Diablo 4 huge fiasco.Reddit was furious about the paid early access, the mtx, the fact that their characters would be deleted within a month.The Blizzard hatred gave a big bump to BG3.I remember even some "influencers" saying they would by BG3 just to spite on Blizzard.All of that was memoryholed. Had BG3 come out this year, it would not have been this successful. Right time, right place.
>>683869005Why would anyone buy a DLC for Starfield?
>>683846971there isnt a single cool character in this shit faggot propaganda of a game. its sad, I didnt want to hate it but its impossible not to.
>>683846971slog combat, reddit writing
>>683883861I don't know, it really seemed like bg3 was pre chosen to be shilled by the media. Either that or they paid off all the right people That said the modern gam journalist apparently grades games on how accessible they are and what diversity level it is
>>683883976>t. Didn’t play the game
The king of burritos and mountain dew.
Damn, can't wait for another cope thread about BG3, what are we blaming for games success nowdays?
>>683861697Just like Diablo is turn based because you can only attack limited times per second. What a fucking retard take.
>>683885159It's lowest common denominator slop, like pal world. The equivalent of a tiktok video for gaming
>>683884857he's right though. at their absolute best, a character could be described as "tolerable"
>>683885224So why did it had such a high player retention?
>>683853418That minthara?Sex scenes are lame. Cyberpunk'd did it best though.
>>683884857I played until act 3. They are all insufferable.
>>683885457no they're not
>>683846971Because all new games fucking suck and it just sucked slightly less. At this point you are hailed as a god damned saint if you can put out a game that plays decently and doesn't rob you blind in microtransactions.
>>683885457If everyone around seems insufferable, perhaps the problem is you.
>>683846971It was a great game but the writing really did suck like everyone says.Basically it's like if the golden gate bridge was built on a pile of dung.
>>683885546Exactly. Went to replay BG1 and 2 instead of continuing to suffer this DEI-infested clusterfuck of faggotry.
>>683846971Act 1 made me think it was easily the best RPG ever created, so I see why there would be crazy initial hype
>>683885681They fucked up big league with their illusion of choice approach.Wasted 3 years on act 1 and totally cut the game to death in fear of starfield.Started a dlc but we're salty they couldn't keep rights to ASStarion.
>>683885665Yeah, I'm sure you did just that and didn't spend all day sperging out in yet another twitter screenshot thread about le woke/le niggers or whatnot.
>>683885375Reddit cuckolds.Just check the sub, they fantasise of absurd head canons and sink 1000 hours into that game.>Omg haha, my dragonmage drow with gnome heritage bwahahaha the barrel and giths, water and electro glyph omg I can't even...
>>683846971>Gayniggers From Outer Space The Game>Iwonderwhy.jpeg
>>683850597holy truth bomb
>>683846971You have dogshit taste and everyone who shares your opinion has dogshit taste as well. This game is a masterpiece, it has the best gameplay in any CRPGs ever made, the best level design and the best presentation and graphics, topping its genre in all of those aspects.Furthermore it has a variety of great characters that are all delivered with good acting and performance.It has good music and has great writing that reacts to the player and offers a wide range of possible dialogue options and choices.The rpg mechanics are fun to mess with and its replay value is quite high making it fun to play multiple time.Kill yourself you absolute vermin scum with shit taste, if this game was japanese you will suck it dick, fuck you and die you worthless gay chud
>>683885375It doesn't, it's such slop that the turnover rate on players is super high. A good example of this is something like witcher 3 which was nothing but hype but was allowed to claim to be the best rpg in the industry for years. People kept buying it and buying it and only playing a few hours
>>683886089Somehow bg3 is still not considered iconic, I wonder why.People will play bg2 in 20 years time from now and bg3 will be forgotten as soon as the next big thing approaches.
>>683856162>the voice acting isn't the same old generic American anime voice actor crap you hear everywherewitcher 3 did top tier voice acting in 2015, i dont get how bg3 fags claim its something they pioneered
>>683886213Even worse, people who dropped the game after two hours keep babbling about how w3 is the greatest rpg to date.
>>683886267It's a gay dating sim made for people who don't like RPG's so that makes sense.
>>683886267>mfw BG3 is still relevant 20 years later>mwf when tards still seethe about it on /v/ 20 years later
>>683886371It's so disgusting.Way worse than cooming on h games.
Why do anti-BG3 posts always read like they're written by 16 year old wannabe 1337&c00l 0ldf4gs? So tryhard it makes me physically cringe.
>>683886747Learn how to read, reddit fur clown.
>>683886747BG3 wasn't even relevant at release
>>683886821Because that's exactly who they're written by.
>BG3 is still not considered iconic>has spent every waking moment of his life in BG3 threads for a year
>>683887032>it's iconic>iconically shit
>>683850597
>>683879075well the developers are massive literal unironic sordid faggots themselves.
>>683881343>rtwp is bettersaid no one ever
>>683886267All it needs is a good difficulty mod and it will continue to be played.
>>683885652The writing is great, people who say it sucks have no idea what they are talking about and just repeat buzzwords from salty redditors
>>683887328The writing is so hilariously infantile that anybody claiming that supporting this game for new games like it is a viable strategy are retardedA six year old could write a more coherent story than larian, and there's also a reason why larian has been around for 30 years and never made a good game.You retarded niggers got catfished and are now defending actual dogwater to cope
>>683887519No argument and only buzzwords. Yeah thanks for proving me right.
>>683886102>great writing that reacts to the player and offers a wide range of possible dialogue options and choices.Have you ever been into gith creche or tried an evil playthrough? All of the choices game offers are fake and the game is extremely railroaded
>>683887323Aren't there plenty online already?Gameplay is decent, campaign is shit.I don't mind the bugs, despite being numerous.The drs system shoes how they suck at coding.Shame that there aren't any custom campaigns.
>>683887659Most choices are identical, just labeled differently.Drow and gith are almost identical and the writing is almost always vague to be open to interpretation and cater to head canon clowns.
>>683887519Seethe harder, YouTube simp.
>>683887575I actually can't imagine a worse possible story. They next step would just be like 4 hours of somebody shitting on the camera
>>683887328I'm not sure I dig the whole grand conspiracy angle where basically everything that happens in the game ties into the cult of the absolute, but they definitely do manage to set up a compelling mystery and manages to add an illusion of urgency that compels you to seek out key characters, especially in the first act.I do find some of the Durge stuff to be rather contrived though, like there really isn't any logical reason as to why he should have been brought to Moonrise after getting ganked by Orin.
>>683887659Did all of that and more.Name a game with """real""" choices.
>>683846971>13 hour old threadSo this is the power of mental illness
>>683887960Somebody really wants to talk about how bg3 isn't garbage
>>683887659The writing reacts to the player, when you steal from Mol's kids before they offer you the ring, they will say it has been stolen, so yeah the writing reacts to you.Another instances are like when you steal the gunpoder from the gnome before she threatens you to blow herself up, giving you a dialogue option to mock her.You can attack Ketheric Thorm before his introduction and the dialogue and the whole game even will react to you and change it accordingly.Have you tried saving the gnomes? by saving the gnomes you gain a new way into the city where they will come to save you from the Steel Watchers, and it will unlock the option to buy flashblinder grenades which are super useful against them for Gortash fights. Have you failed to protect Isobel in the fight against the raid on Last Light? because if you do a lot of npcs die and some quests fail, it changes how act 2 procceds to be played, alternatively you can save her and keep the inn safe.Have you saved or killed dame aylin? because that changes your reward, saving her opens up a new questline in act 3 with the wizard Lorroakan.Have you given the wand to Mayrina after you beat Aethel ?giving it to her will allow you to do a new side quest in act 3 where you deal with her for good. So fuck you idiot, choices matter and the dialogue reacts to you, if you find one moment where it doesnt then that doesnt mean im wrong because no game ever has 100% choices that all 100% matter.
>>683888136That's not writing you mentally retarded nigger
>>683887745>Aren't there plenty online already?Not real ones, just ones that boost enemy health numbers.>Gameplay is decent, campaign is shit.The campaign is alright, certainly as good as if not better than competitors. I think the game would have benefited from having a proper grognard dungeon, Durlag's tower style.>I don't mind the bugs, despite being numerous.Seems to be fixed by and large, I was playing honor mode and didn't encounter any of the bugs I had in my first playthrough and I had no quests break on me.>The drs system shoes how they suck at coding.Also fixed in honor mode, but still present in lower difficulty modes for those that enjoy it.>Shame that there aren't any custom campaigns.For sure, I probably wouldn't need to get any other RPGs for the next decade if this had a NWN/Solasta type editor.
>>683887328yes anon everyone who disagrees with you is just a [other side member]
>>683887882He's either not going to name anything because that'd mean expressing his tastes, or name some safe old sacred cow game that clearly also has `fake` choices like all games do, and proceed call you a zoomer because you said that his sacred cow game is the same exact thing.
>>683888136I'm not reading all that
>>683888370He's saying "you can kill a lot of quest npcs and fail their quests and get a worse reward and lose out on a lot of content and that makes BG3 somehow the best game ever made"
>>683887859lmfao, name 10 rpg games with good stories that are not visual novels. >>683887872the Dark Urge was worshipped as a god at Moonrise Towers, but during a visit to the mind flayer colony beneath the towers, during or after the raid, they were betrayed by their sister Orin the Red, who was jealous of Bhaal's favouritismSeems logical to me
>>683888136Yeah no that anon is right. The game really doesn't react to the player in ways that matter, the story is a basic railroad that doesn't make any sense on an evil play-through, generally falls apart after Act 1, and has very little interactive decisions that change or affect it's course. The biggest choice in the entire game, Nightsong, literally doesn't change the course of the main plot at all. It's irrelevant past the character aspect. Random side quests having alternate endings doesn't matter when the central story of the game-- the core pillar of the game--- has fallen apart around it, leaving largely Act 3 a disjointed series of side-quests that are individually interesting but not really a cohesive RPG, or a compelling climax, and that's why people meme Act 3 constantly. Even casuals scratch their head at how poorly constructed the games plot is by that point.
>>683886102>gay chud
>>683888178>NOOOO WRITING ISNT WRITING>has the balls to call someone else retarded
>>683888520>mentally retarded shitskin zoomer thinks he has the intelligence to defend the only game he's ever playedhate to see it
>>683887852Pathetic insect.In how many threads will you continue to show us your shit taste and non existent judgement, shit eating turd?
>>683885183No he is right BG resolves everything every 6 seconds you can’t desynch from the round system
>>683888194>hp go upFilth>durlagIf only.>bugsNope, not fixed. Poor pole arm fans.>honour modeHas few different mechanics and forbids some op builds for whatever rason>fixedI wouldn't call that fixed, but they reworked it for hm, sure>I'm going to mod it myself and ignore any text. Decent enough as dungeon crawler.Already have some classes and races I want to try. Triton water mage, here I come.
>>683888178Yes it is you worthless subhuman. Learn what vidrogame writing is or fuck off and read books instead. This is not a fucking movie game, writing is not just a plot, and even with that the plot is good. >>683888334They are proving me right every single time, cry more.>>683888370lmfao sure thing>>683888510you will die anyway so anything you do in your life doesnt matter too, no choice in life matter by your retarded logic. I have shown you example of choices that matter and writing that reacts to you and all you are doing is patting yourself on the back and coping. You have no arguments whatsoever.
>>683886102Thank you chatgpt.
>>683888502>the Dark Urge was worshipped as a god at Moonrise TowersThat is not correct, Durge was betrayed before ever even involving Thorm in the plans, but his body was brought to Moonrise by Orin in order to get a tadpole for whatever incomprehensible reason. I suppose she wanted to raise him as a slave.
>>683888510That's a whole lot of words to say basically nothing.>The game really doesn't react to the player in ways that matterWhat ways "matter" then?>doesn't make any sense on an evil play-throughHow does it not make sense?>The biggest choice in the entire game, Nightsong, literally doesn't change the course of the main plot at allWhy would it? She's a device to ketheric's immortality, either freeing her or killing her acoomplishes the same goal.
>>683888739>Bg3 sucks>Yeah well nothing in life mattersThe absolute state of bg3 defenders
>>683888570>>683888575Still no arguments as to why the game is bad, just more facetiousness and big boi anger. Cope, seethe, and mald.
>>683888794You need to kill yourself because no choice matters in your life.
>>683888794you can’t expect someone defending faggot propaganda made by faggots to be logical and reasonable. all faggots are disingenuous liars. no exception.
>>683888726>Poor pole arm fans.Ah that's true. I ran a caster/ranger comp so it didn't come up in my recent game, but I suppose polearm master is indeed still broken. Other than that though I had no significant issues, not even the fireworks shop fight was broken anymore.>honour modeWell the thing about honour mode is that they just modified it so it's closer to rules as written, which kind of shows that the original DRS issue/action recovery issue was a choice more so than an oversight.
>>683888852The fact that you think the game reacting to you sequence breaking like 3 times in 80 hours is "writing" outs you as mentally retarded
>>683887882ntaWitcher 3
>>683888510>Yeah no that anon is right. The game really doesn't react to the player in ways that matterSorry but you "railroad" fag are just retarded, at the end of the day your complaint is that the game isn't a sandbox RPG and that because the game have a beginning, a middle and an end then there is no choice.that retarded. you can have choice within a relatively set story, the same way adventure pack work in Pathfinder.
>>683888768Source for that? All 3 champions where at Moonrise Towers and they hid the brain there after acquiring the crown.
>>683888962Right, of course, a world would never react to your choices and preparing it to do so definitely isn’t any form of writing. On an unrelated note, where is your wrangler? Someone needs to keep you from choking to death on your shoelaces while typing these comments.
>>683888510>that's why people meme Act 3You know for someone who makes fun of normalfags and redditors you surely do follow with their hivemind when it suits you. You have a lot of choices in the game and they change how things play out, this is an objective fact.
>>683889001>Claim game is filled with meaningful choices>Advertise game as having 17000 endings>It's actually an unfinished hyper linear piece of shit
>>683850597the gameplay is fucking atrocious, DnD mechanics do NOT translate to games, mechanics like concentration are the most anti-fun shit I've ever seen in an RPG.Oh, and don't forget to go sleep all the time or else you might miss a flag for an important event :)
>>683889078The crown was acquired by Gortash and Durge alone and if you don't play Durge, his body is found in the Bhaal temple, implying he was attacked within Baldur's Gate.
>>683888768>Durge was betrayed before ever even involving Thorm in the plansNo, he wasn't. He was the one who got Gortash and Thorm together in the first place and they already had the Crown in their possession before he was backstabbed by Orin while they were about to put the Crown on the Elder Brain.https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Memoir_Notes_with_Recent_Addenda
>>683888997Witcher 3 is one of the very few games where choices matter and change the ending, but despite its great choice and consequences system its dialogue is less reactive and the total amount of choices you can make are less than BG3. Witcher 3 is like this.Choice A Leads to End AChoice B leads to end BChoice C leads to end CBG3 is like this We need to go from A to BAnd you can do everything possible to achieve that, you have more than 10 ways to achieve that. and those 10 ways change how you play it to get to that B point. Someone once posted a picture to explain this to retards i dont have it on my computer.
>>683889196>mechanics like concentration are the most anti-fun shit I've ever seen in an RPGThis is like one of the few good things about 5e, it makes spell choices matter far more weighty.>Oh, and don't forget to go sleep all the time or else you might miss a flag for an important event :)False, the game forces a rest for all story critical events, beyond the four (4) forced rests in the game you are not required to rest even once to progress the story.
>>683889193>game is filled with meaningful choicestrue>Advertise game as having 17000 endingsthey didn't, they clarified that these were minor differences but the journos ran with the clickbait.>It's actually an unfinished hyper linear piece of shitit isn't you 50iq gremlin, just because a game isn't a sandbox doesn't mean it "hyper linear".
>>683888997Very funny.But just in case you were being serious (my condolences about your mental state), witcher 3 doesn't have "real" choices by your standards becase it's only got one set ending.
>>683889273Do you realize that the colony is used to study the tadpole and manipulate the brain?It is implied in the game by one of the NPCs that he was used because his brain resist power was incredible.
>>683889323Welp, seems I was wrong. I must have not read this book.
>>683889273Durge was killed by orin if tav is pc.Durge having the same intro as all others is ridiculous, as he's they very first true soul.Data mining shows that ketheric was originally shar's chosen, but that was scrapped.
>>683889403>The game has minor differencesSo even larian admits the game is a linear piece of shit?
>>683888768Both Ketheric and the warden will comment that Durge’s status as a true soul was actually a demotion, so they both knew him when he was still a chosdn. Durge also has his own secret hideout in the illithid colony. When he was down in the colony, Orin ganked him, put a worm in his brain for the lolz, and left him to die.
>>683889461>Do you realize that the colony is used to study the tadpole and manipulate the brain?That I do, I was wrong about the sequence of events and it makes total sense given >>683889323Then I suppose there really are no actual plot holes.
>>683889485the game still have quite a few major different endings retard, just not 17 000 ...
>>683889403>they didn'tKek. Not how journalism works.
>>683889196>the gameplay is fucking atrocious,Holy shit what a bad takeKill yourself immediately
>>683889569But no meaningful choices in the game
>>683889489Where bonedaughter experimented on him.Somehow she didn't know that he was the guy who initiated the plan in the first place.Convoluted shit story.
>>683889635how is killing every npc in the game and becoming the avatar off the god of murder no meaningful?
>>683889401>his is like one of the few good things about 5e, it makes spell choices matter far more weighty.what is good about making spells feel more "weighty"? original sin 2 spells felt more "weighty" and didn't need some shitty restricting mechanic>False, the game forces a rest for all story critical events, beyond the four (4) forced rests in the game you are not required to rest even once to progress the story.not false, OBVIOUSLY you're not going to hardlock yourself from the main fucking quest, I meant ALL the other sidequests that depend on you resting at specific moments or places. It's so aggravating, one of the most endorsed mods in nexus is the one that warns you there are camp interactions pending.
>>683889547Rare to see someone admits he was wrong, i respect that.
>>683889689NoMeaningfulChoicesEnjoy your shitty larian murder hobo simulator
i don’t understand why trannies here react to criticism of the game as personal insults. are you building your identity on bg3?
>>683889661Why would she give a shit about anything happening outside the colony? She just happened to find a severely mutilated dragonborn and decided to stitch him back together
>>683889689>BECAUSE IT JUST ISNT OKAY???
>>683889746>didn't need some shitty restricting mechanicIt literally has cooldowns for different skills. And it's a good thing because it means you can't stack your entire spellbook all at once giving you an actual decision as to what spell effect to prioritize by spending your concentration slot on.>restsOther than the Dark Urge stuff there is nothing else in the game that requires you to long rest in order to progress.
>>683889689To this retard its not meaningful because it doesnt change the ending. According to this retard a game that gives you 3 choices that lead to 3 ending aka telltale game is has better choice than a game that lets you play how you want with huge number of variants and choices except it leads to the same ending path. There are less than 2% of RPGs that allow branching paths in a deep and meaningful way, one of them is New Vegas but really its few bunch, thats a good exrtra if you nail it, but its absolutely not a requirement to make a good rpg.
>>683846971faggot game by faggots for faggots
>>683889964>faggot game for faggots by faggots
>>683889964*And femcels
>>683889885The schizo who hates on this game nonstop is LGBT gay chud who worships bioware slop because he likes alistair. all the retarded crticism i have read on this game came from twitter trannies who are porn addict weebs. the neo nazi chuds suck as well but i doubt they are the ones behind this embarrassing hate campaign
>>683889963The ending in this game are basically mass effect 3 tier, which is horrendous because the game is worse than me3
>>683890114>unironically trying to use ME3 endings as a basis for bad endingsKill. Your. Self. Groupthink retard.
>>683890280Mmm yes. Color coded endings which have nothing to do with the game would probably seem groundbreaking to a larian tranny
>>683890401Knew you were gonna say “muh color coded” shit just like every other fucking retard who uses ign or kotaku for their opinion on that game. Go find a YouTuber to suck off and adopt their opinions as your own next. Maybe if you suck him off hard enough he’ll give you a shout out in the next stream.
>>683890114mass effect 3 ending was bad for more than few reasons not just because it was pick your color ending. Its one thing to do that in a single game and another thing to do that to an end of a consecutive trilogy And you can have more ending and variants in BG3 espeically if you talk with npcs and finish their questlines first, you can have gale take the crown and you can convince him to not do it, this is done way before the ending, in act 3 wizards vault. unlike me3 this choice impacts the ending before the final confrontation. the same goes for bhaal evil ending if you accept his offer you can open a new variant.its not really the same at all, i know you are a salty bioslop fan, i get you here i thik mass effect 3 is a good game, its overhated but your attempt at deflecting fails here.
>>683889569>just not 17 000If we include all the companion endings and all their different combinations, I’m fairly certain it will reach well above 17000
>>683890280Didnt know BioWare still had shills here.
>>683889946>giving you an actual decision as to what spell effect to prioritize by spending your concentration slot on.the game is so fucking stupid easy it's pointless to come up with such mechanics to restrict the players.>there is nothing else in the game that requires you to long rest in order to progress.>install "camp event notifications mod" after playing for a while>have to rest 10 times in a row because I keep getting notificationsyeah well, I actually played so I remember the frustration,the game is so mid I kinda forgot almost everything about the story
>>683890572What did I say? I said mass effect 3 endings sucked because they had nothing to do with the actual gameplay. The choices that influenced the ending happened one second before the ending cinematic played.Bg3 isn't any different
>>683861352>normie garbage>because it's not generic action slop or autoplay RTwP shitAre you fucking retarded?
>>683890724Yes there are a lot of camp events that are optional, but none are required in order to progress side quests, the only thing you'll miss if you avoid the non-mandatory rests is Dark Urge content.>the game is so fucking stupid easy it's pointless to come up with such mechanics to restrict the players.But the game would be even easier if you could just dump your entire spellbook before every fight, which would in turn lead to having to bloat encounter stats.
>>683870478Yes.
>Patch 7 will remove this trashcore kinoGame could have been 10/10 despite its shortcomings if they just didnt take themselves so seriously and embraced the jank. DnD/Forgotten Realms was never a serious setting anyway, "God of murder" lmao the fuck is that supposed to be
>>683890724I'll take concentration over prebuffing spam anyday.
>>683890724>I forgot almost everything about the story>this is the game’s fault and definitely not a sign of my failing cognitive functionsKys before you forget to, brainrot anon
>cast spell "Doomsday mage wall of uber death">stub your toe for one (1) damage>concentration broken, spellslot stolenI fucking love 5e bros
>>683890796>it's not generic action slop or autoplay RTwP shitIt's fucking D&D 5th ed let's not pretend you're playing chess
>>683890940Really? The new evil endings replace that?
>>683890940Strange thing to say, I really don't think the game was very serious in tone.
>>683890940>Larian>Not embracing the jank>Still making 30 year old design mistakes
>>683891048Not an issue if you know how to build your character thoughever, or know how to control encounters so that you don't end up in that situation in the first place.
>>683891048you can improve the adds of saving concentration by having better build, better feats and better items and most of all better positioning.
>>683891065Another fucking retard to add to the pile
>>683890917>yes
>>683891119>>683891128>resilient: concentration and war caster are obligatory>when you only get a feat every four levelswoah, so many possibilities for exciting new builds!
>>683891065yeah larian games dont take themselves too seriously, anybody who played their games knows this. For larian writing exists to serve gameplay not the other way around, and thats a GOOD thing because 90% of wrpgs have dogshit gameplay thanks to this bad philosophy in game design.
I never played it but I'll give it a pass since it humiliated FF and squeenix by being a successful turnbased game
>>683891119The game only has 4 character slots. Stubbing your toe wouldn't be as much of a problem if you had two more characters to distract npcs. Couple that with larian's horse shit so that sprints down your mages ignoring everything else and you have a joke of an rpg
>>683891226>>683891065Its up its own ass about "abuse" and whatnot, there is also grimdark retcons like "Illithids dont have souls!!!!" This game takes itself way too seriously
>>683891048>he didn’t take war casterngmi
>>683890840>yeah, you can miss a lot of shit but...whatever>But the game would be even easier if you could just dump your entire spellbook before every fight, which would in turn lead to having to bloat encounter stats.or maybe they could come with better mechanics? concentration is just restrticting your options, there is not upside other than "it's to avoid prebuffing". How about just removing buffs the moment a battle starts>>683891019sorry retard, I tend to forget uninteresting generic crap. You can still keep playing your dating simulator with a shitty RPG on the side.
>>683891216Obligatory if you’re someone who is too scared of making “le heckin sub optimal choices!” Fuck off to fps games, the idea of an rpg is too much for you to handle. >B-b-but I n-n-need my walkthrough or else what if I m-m-make a bad decision!
>>683847832spbp
>>683846971I just don't think this is a masterpiece or the best rpg ever.
>>683891216You could always just equip the dark justiciar armor and get the free war caster that comes with it. But unfortunately no such item exists because /v/ has assured me that you get no rewards for making evil choices
>>683891216No they're not, you can just stack initiative and control encounters from the get-go, as well as use your positioning options so that enemies can't target your caster at all.
I know I'm not supposed to trust Gortash, Raphael. I'm not entirely sure the Emperor isn't going to betray me for not eating the super-tadpole. And I know Voss is probably the best choice despite the fact Lae'zel didn't do a real job convincing me because she went from a Vlakith zealot to an Orpheus zealot in basically a blink. And it was incredibly obvious that every associate to your origin characters were 100% untrustworthy.It's kinda funny that Orin is the most straight with you - I stole your friend, kill Gortash, then we'll 1v1 for all the marbles. You can trust the psychopath to be exactly a psychopath. I already killed her but I seriously will have to go back and see if she honours the 1v1 fight.I feel like the game does a great job at presenting you with all these fucking awful choices that you can't even feel 50% sure about. I wish you could delegate the choices to Jaheria because this shit is far too fucked up but I know the game is better without that certainty.
>>683846971Witcher 3 was better
>>683891437Again half the complaints about concentration wouldn't be a thing if larian didn't develop the game like they did
>>683891521/thread
>>683891521and that's saying A LOT
>>683891512Gortash is a true friend as long as you don't prevent him from going Caesar-mode by disrupting his iron legions.
>>683846971i will not spit on the only one belgium game of this decade. also, mods help a lot
>>683891437Obligatory if you want to actually get mileage out of your limited spell slots >>6838914801. The rare version of it grants advantage on concentration saves too and everybody gets that2. Its medium armor, only Gith and shield Dwarf casters can use that>>683891295>larian's horse shit so that sprints down your mages ignoring everything elseI seriously dont understand how they didnt add a zoc mechanic, whats the point of a tank if every NPC can just beeline for your squishy caster anyway?
>>683846971It's normie first AAA rpg game and half of them couldn't finish the first act.Boss baby syndrome etc etc.
>>683891614Ah yes I love the Gortash ending. Another great example of a meaningful choice the player can make to determine the fate of Faerun!
>>683891676>I seriously dont understand how they didnt add a zoc mechanicThat's way too advanced for larian
>>6838910525e's actual combat is fine. At least as much as any D&D combat can be fine (barring some problems stemming from DMing the advantage mechanic that aren't present in a videogame).More importantly BG3 has a lot of environmental interaction and positional shittery that it pulls from D:OS, as well as a full implementation of a lot of minor actions that just aren't in other RPGs. The shove alone puts the combat above the average CRPG.
>>683891831>The meme marketing mechanic is the only selling point of the gameWhat's it like being 50 iq
>>683891295>>683891676>>683891803You can just admit you never played the game, retards. Attacks of opportunity are there and function the same as they do in any other D&D based RPG.
>>683891676>zoc mechanicReactions, you even have an entire feat that stops whomever you use an opportunity attack on.>whats the point of a tankThere is none, you fundamentally misunderstand D&D (all editions) if you think tanks are a thing in this system.
>>683891935Environmental interaction is the soul of any good combat, and making it universal is not a meme mechanic.Stop being a retarded midwit.
>>683887882Arcanum, Age of Decadence
>>683891998attacks of opportunity are NOT a tank mechanic, retard larian dickslurper-kun.
>>683891998Attacks of opportunity are not enough and every character has only one to use every round so what the fuck are you talking about >>683892002retard
>>683846971Because mediocre is still way better than every other AAA release
>>683892121>Age of DecadenceGlorified visual novel, true slop for retards.
>>683891998And? When you only have 4 characters and the AI still sprints down mages it doesn't matter. Couple that with larian's core difficulty design being giving enemies 4 billion HP
>>683891741>Why can’t I romance the evil asshole that is obviously gonna betray me?Gortash ending is a femcel meme
>>683892160Tanking is not nor has it ever been a thing in D&D, you legitimately have no idea what you're talking about if you think that's the case.
>>683892182sadly this is the truth
>>683892232The game pretends you can ally him but then they just kill him off anyway, just another fake choice that doesnt matter
>>683891539Or it wouldn’t be a thing if you whiny fags could tear yourself away from optimal playing for a SINGLE PLAYER experience. >computer, fetch me the meta for my single player game
>>683892201So you're legitimately just a retard that can't figure out this rather easy D&D game, got it.
>>683892156Of course not, there's no fucking tanks in D&D you inbred. But they are a mechanic for stopping/punishing enemies that run past your front line characters to hit mages in the back.
>>683892121Alright. I'm sure you will be able to elaborate what makes those games have "real" choices as opposed to bg3.That aside, both arcanum and aod have abysmal gameplay.
>>683892250Then what would you call a high AC martial with stacked resistances, RETARD?
>>683891676>Obligatory if you want to actually get mileage out of your limited spell slots>I better NOT have to manage my limited resources in an RPGs with a system designed around thatKys. I didn’t think it was possible but you are literally too stupid for BG3. Congrats.
>>683892407>cast lvl 6 spell>concentration breaks because a Goblin pushed youAre you actually retarded or just pretending?
>>683888136Cherrypicked examples that don't affect the plot in any meaningful way. In my first hour of playing I literally slaughtered half of the refugee camp and their leader didn't acknowledge it in any way because the game doesn't have basic RPG elements like karma and reputation so it can't track your actions. It's also impossible to join the cultists or giths so all the "choices" you made to support them in act 1 are meaningless. Eat shit and die shill
>>683892401They're either a DPS or a controller depending on subclass. And if you knew what you were doing, every one of your characters would have 20+ AC by the end of the first act.
>>683892331No larian is legitimately retarded and designs bad games you retarded tranny
>>683892310By allying with him you can skip 1-2 very difficult boss fight
>>683892543>enemies have a billion HP>can't prevent his mages from losing concentration>thinks tanking is a thing in D&D, a system that has never had a threat systemNo, this is a (You) issue.
>>683892548The game is just 500 consecutive shit fights. Skipping 2 isn't really a big deal
>>683892494If a goblin is able to get past the rest of your party to attack whoever is casting a level 6 spell and loses their concentration over it, you are legitimately too retarded to play this game. It is not fucking hard.
>>683892509>controller Yeah thats a big difference, its an entirely different word!>every one of your characters would have 20+ AC by the end of the first actYeah thats kinda the problem, moron Also, no
>>683892606Still not hearing how larian's bad game design is actually good you crotch rotted tranny
>>683891606kek, yes
>>683892190As opposed to glorified combatslop that pretends to be an RPG? >>683892379They change the game in an significant way that's reflected in the narrative, quests and endings.
>>683892685And you’re not stating how the game design is bad, just that you’re a mongoloid who can’t figure out >HUH, MAYBE I SHOULDNT HAVE MY CONCENTRATION CASTER OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FRAY FOR EVERY ENEMY TO PICK OFF? NAAAAHHH THIS IS BAD LARIAN DESIGN, IM DEFINITELY NOT A SLOBBERING FUCKING RETARD
>>683892685It is good. You are just absolute dogshit if you think your mage should be completely immune to all damage as long as your tank is alive
>>683892401You would call them tanky.That doesn't mean they can fucking draw aggro or magically prevent anyone else from being hit.
>>683892670>Yeah thats a big difference, its an entirely different word!It is a big difference. A tank generates threat, a controller prevents the movement and ability usage of enemies. In essence, a battle master fighter is a CC wizard except he casts swords.>>683892685You are presenting no argument, you only assert that it is bad because you fundamentally don't understand the systems involved.
>>683892792Sorry tranny I don't think you screeched "It's just good!" Loud enough
>>683892731>They change the game in an significant way that's reflected in the narrative, quests and endings.So, same as BG3?
So is it better than DoS? I've always wanted to play it but it's been sitting a few places behind other games in my backlog. BG3 didn't catch my eye in the same way.
>>683881463bg3 has jason isaacs and jk simmons.
>>683892826I accept your concession, shitter
>>683846971>This game is painfully mediocreThat's actually a really great result for AAA products nowadays.If you're used to consuming the worst slop only, of course mediocrity will impress you.
>>683892901Still not hearing how larian's shit design is actually good you piss filled tranny
>>683855175sure, except you can merk every rainbow rep in the game if you want.
>>683892801Thats not what I am saying, they just need a proper way to control the battlefield with their presence, forming a front line. Whats the point of the armor of persistance when its wearer will never get attacked anyway?>That doesn't mean they can fucking draw aggro or magically prevent anyone else from being hitA good DM makes sure neither players nor NPCs are running around like headless chickens during combat
>>683892862BG3 has two endings that don't depend on anything you have done through the game, I don't think I should continue engaging with an obvious troll
>>683892826>refuses to acknowledge his own retardation as the issueIsn’t it time for your half hourly dose of dopamine from Fortnite, you adhd afflicted zoomer?
>>683893036Still not hearing how larian's shit game design is actually good you fatherless bastard tranny
I never talk about act 3, I've never played this cultural vandalism game and I never will. My posts are centered around the absurdity of Liarian's actions, their multitude of sweat shop studios, their unwillingness to sell what is bought, and their violations of labor and immigration law and probable bank/loan fraud. That's why they rushed the game out a month early despite being unfinished by the way if you remember that, maybe it's not written on your script today. They were floating on debt, someone wanted to collect, and Liaran realized they'd actually have to release something and couldn't just sell early access vapor ware for another decade. So we got unfinished and buggy soap opera propaganda for masturbation lords to fawn over, released so early that you're a hundred patches in and still talking about bugs and unfinished content. There's your hero studio, there's your game of the year. They represent a cancer strangling gaming.I'm spelling it exactly as I mean to. They're LIARian. French fraudsters selling snake oil and old shoes and calling it a game.
>>683892954Most posts acknowledging you have repeatedly explained how it’s good and you keep responding with>Nuh uh! I’m retarded and it doesn’t cater to me so that makes it bad!
>>683892968...Do you truly think there is no way for a character to place themselves such that they're more likely to be attacked? That every enemy in the game just ignores the enemy in their face, gets AOO'd to death and beelines for any backline you have? That armor is somehow irrelevant?Come on, you still can send the guy in the plate mail out front with the knowledge that it isn't a guaranteed death sentence like it would be for the wizard with the mage armor.And a good DM doesn't let the wizard in the back go completely unthreatened while he burns spellslots like a turret.
I love it when the bot gets so humiliated that it resorts to just spamming the same thing over and over until the thread dies
>>683855971Anything above 7 is reserved for Fromsoft games.
>>683893151Still haven't explained how larian's shit game design is actually good you mentally defective samefag tranny
>>683846971in the age of garbage it's easy for mediocrity to stand out
>>683893073That’s cuz you refuse to use your eyes, the same way you refuse to use your fucking brain when you played. It’s been explained repeatedly. You are just a mongoloid.
>>683893002>BG3 has two endings that don't depend on anything you have done through the gameBut that's a lie.>I don't think I should continue engagingYou think that because you can't explain what makes any other games' choices any less """real""" than the ones you named. And I'll tell you why: because they are essentially the same, no matter how many flips you do during your mental gymnastics excercise.
>>683893286Still haven't actually proved anything you mind rotted tranny
>>683855971>6 or lower = unplayable dogshit>7 or higher = paid shill review = unplayable dogshit6.5 is the best score any game can get
>>683893337It has been proven you just refuse to listen to anyone because you can’t handle anyone shattering your paper thin worldview. Kys homo
>>683893513Samefag spamming you have proved larian's shit game design is good when you haven't isn't an argument you HRT addled neckbeard
>>683893513Why are you trying to prove a point to a retard who can’t even defend his backline?
>dice rolls for everything Do you trannies not realize how terrible this is?
>>683893575Yeah and spamming NUH UH! Doesn’t disprove anything about their game design either you girlcock addicted tranny lover.
>>683893759Imagine defending larian's complete inability to design AI that doesn't auto target the lowest HP ally on the field in a game with 3 max companions
>>683893893He might be a Plebbitor by heart.
>>683893893Just because your ally has low hp doesn’t mean they’re the highest priority threat. I know this, the ai knows this, but (You) don’t
>>683893759Fair point, anon. Arguing with the mentally handicapped is a waste.
>>683894113>The AI knows thisWhat AI? All larian AI does is check the lowest max HP character on the field and b-line towards them
>>683893785>doesn’t like luck based mechanics>This means it’s bad!Hi, summerfag
>>683894446Larian's dice roll minigame sucks and has nothing to do with DND
The king of enchiritos and moutain dew
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>>683895043Not an argument tranny. Link to any source that says rolling a d20 for lockpicking is a thing
