Have you had ever a wrong opinion about video games?
I liked vampire rain.
>>683855503How did this guy manage to be wrong about four different things being fads in one paragraph?
>>683855503he was unironically right
>>683855503Never really had particularly important and wrong enough opinions on gayming to remember. On gaymers, however, I was wrong on multiple occasions. One particular example being CP2077 and its popularity amongst normies despite all the butthurt and drama, and that CDPR surviving the shitstorm at all to the point developing a sequel for 2077.
i mean he's probably talking about the lame ass handheld single games they had like mattel football right? no body is buying game and watches today
Ai is a fad
>>683855939The atari and arcades.
>>683855503He was right in the short term though. The market crashed so hard in '83 that the NES had to market itself as an 'entertainment system' years later.
>>683856093Computer and arcade games did just fine during the crash, tho. Same with Europe as a whole.
>Milton Bradley>Parker Brothers>KennerFucking Hasbro
>>683855503lol were stereos and cameras considered a fad in the late 70's?
>>683855503>It was acquired by Hasbro in 1984lel
That one anon who said that MLP would not have a lot of porn because the older generations didn't have much porn
maybe if we take the context in that most video games get boring after playing them a month
The only game i remember from them was Heroquest and even that was mostly Games Workshop.
>>683856256just by this guyhis issue is he'd seen so many fads come and go he stopped being able to recognize genuine change
>>683855503No.
>>683855939Even more rudimentarypong machines
>>683855503Video Games will never catch on, if my name isn't John Betamax
>>683855503Like with most things executives say this isnt the opinion he has. He isn't sharing what he thinks. He is saying what he wants the market to think.He runs a company that sells board games. His competitors sell video games to the same audience. He is not anymore 'wrong' than when the xyz company says their widgets are better than the abc company.
>>683855503I thought consoles were better than PCs for the longest time. I wish now I grew up on a PC instead of xbox
>>683857818So you can enjoy paying 2x the price as last time every time you need a new computer? No, you were right the first time.
>>683857960>implying I don't just upgrade parts individuallyI learned and you should too
>>683856891This.
>>683857960>paying 2x the price as last time every time you need a new computer?Holy shit people like you should not be allowed online.
>>683855902This.. no one likes modern games. Nigga was actually right
>>683855503I overestimated what games would be in terms of content several times, but I never made any true blunders, that I recall at least.
I can't wait in 20 years to look back and read all about how anons thought AI was also an fad.lmao
>>683859592It's gonna be a fad and will never grow to be something that actually has an impact on people's lives (i.e. acting as a automated teacher for others; making videogame features by just proompting, and various other things that are actually impressive).Screenshot this.
>>683856171almost the same thing is happening now though, PC Gaming is more popular then ever while Sony and Microsoft cant do shit to attract new auidences to their consoles
>>683857782only person who understands the world in this thread
>>683859592Prompters have had years to finetune things, why are they still unable to get skin right? It was the most obvious thing to fix (yes, even moreso than the finger issue which most have solved)
>>683859802Screenshot what a fucking dumbshit you are?
>>683860048So you can look at the screenshot in the next twenty years and see how wrong your faggot ass was.
>>683859882That's cause consoles are just shit PCs now. The Switch is kind of it's own thing but even then it's carried by Nintendo
>>683860086I would only screenshot it if I could staple it to your dumb, retard face. Adopt a tripcode, dipshit. THEN we can follow you around with your stupid-ass post. Put your money where your mouth is, motherfucker. ha ha ha you won't.
>>683859802lollmao
>>683855503This guy was unironically right. The entire video games industry in America crashed in 1983. Japan brought video games back with the NES, they had seen what happened in America because the Famicom released the same year as the crash.An American video game console wouldn't be successful again until the Xbox in 2001.
>>683860506Okay contrarian super retard.
>>683860506>The entire video games industry in America crashed in 1983.Electronic Arts was founded in 1982, and it started selling exclusively computer games because Trip saw the writing on the wall. That's just the most iconic example.
>>683860573Learn some history, first gen video game consoles were a shitshow, it was the wild west
>>683860821Alright, super retard.Tell me again how video games no longer exist, because they were a fad in the early 1980's.Oh shit, you must be some sort of super retard
I thought Apex would win the BR market
>>683860506>The industry experienced difficulties, therefor video games, a multibillion dollar industry with titles being produced with budgets of hundreds of millions of dollars is a confirmed passing fadDo you know what "passing fad" even means?
>>683860997It's the only one worth playing so you were sorta right
>>683860898>>683861017They were, American video game consoles and developer industry crashed incredibly hard, then Japanese companies took over the industry.How is this so hard for you retards to understand?
I thought VR would take off and be where the medium grows. I expected we'd have a new era of cool VR experimental games like the early 3D years. I thought game AI would continue improving and most games would feel like you're playing against humans.I thought basic problems like seeing characters clipping through geometry would've been solved 20 years ago.
>>683860997It sort of did. In Japan, of all places.
He's right. Gaming crashed and was really fucking good for like 10-15 years and its been a shit show ever since.
>>683863159He's right about what?People don't play video games anymore?or are you saying people don't play video games as much as they used to?Oh wait.... MAYBE... he's trying to say... no.He's just a fucking retard and so are you.
>>683856256On his defense, they were churning new gadgets left and right.
>>683855503Pretty fucking based. Just notice that only faggot losers care about vudeogames nowadays.
>>683859802Nigger
>>683855503I played Human Revolution before OG Deus Ex. So when I played the original, I thought it was worse, it was clunky to control and looked too aged. Took me a while to give it a fair shot and appreciate its incredible depth and superior writing.
>>683861390>I thought VR would take offSimilarly, I thought 3D displays would take off. I really thought I'd eventually buy one. But by the time I finally needed a new monitor, the fad was over and they were not sold anymore.
>>683859882Its not that difficult, its just that none of the companies involved want to do what they have to do.>Lower prices>Increase quality>Make this happen by dramatically downsizing your workforce and trimming old studios>Sell off non-productive IPs to new studios who might be able to do something with them>Hire new generations of people with new ideas and allow them to excel>Foster those new ideas by not being hook-nosed about it and allowing the people who make them to take credit and own their own ideasSimple as.
>>683860506>>683860594The way people talk about the crash of '83 can be misleading. It's easy to be dramatic and say the market for video games as a whole collapsed, but it's more accurate to say the market for *consoles* collapsed, while computer games kept chugging along.
>>683855503He was right about the videogames of the time, hence the videogame crash.
>>683855503I thought Dawntrail was ok.
I was gaslit into thinking the SNES was better than the Genesis but it wasn't. Genesis had a better sound chip, better first party games, and a better controller.
>>683865329Yes, but it was dedicated videogame consoles the toy executive was talking about.Additionally, the market for computer games in the US was pretty small. It was a major factor in Europe, but until later in the 80's and the golden age of PC compatibles they were never that big in the US. They never had the breadth of cheaper options that were available across the pond which meant PCs were relatively more business focused in general.
>>683868157>Genesis had a better sound chipFalse. A truly skilled composer could make better music for the Genesis but that was a rarity; at the end of the day the majority of Genesis games had mediocre to bad music whereas bad music on the SNES was downright rare.The sample-based approach of the SNES was more technically complex and resulted in better music the majority of the time.
>>683870014Literally a skill issue.
>>683870327I'm not making 4th gen console games anon.Neither are you.The games on the SNES have better music because it has a better sound chip. No revisionism.
>>683856093>the NES had to market itself as an 'entertainment systemAnon…
>>683857818Consoles were much better than computers until the 6th gen, by the 7th everything fell apart so there is not much difference between the two>>683870014>whereas bad music on the SNES was downright rareIf anything bad OSTs were about as common on the SNES, pretty much every western game sans Plok or Donkey Kong had one, the bad Genesis OSTs were pretty much always western too
>>683870865>so there is not much difference between the twoAffordability, convenience. There's a world of difference.
>>683858680It's the most profitable entertainment medium rofl what are you talking about
>>683855503That is still the opinion that many shareholders in the vidya industry have. To them videogames may as well be NFTs.>>683856093He's still right in the longterm, the investment bubble for videogames popped in 2006. I don't think you can say that development of new videogames was taken seriously as a means of making money off of videogames after ~2012.Even now studios are being axed if they can't keep a stable holding pattern even if they do put out games that aren't complete shit.Consumers still like videogames, but they will always be a passing fad for the stockmarket.>>683859592It is being massively overvalued and most people have a heavily skewed perception of what it is actually good at or capable of. There are flaws to it that just can't be ironed out because they are the direct result of how an LLM functions. It will never not hallucinate and it will never not have issues with completing ambiguous patterns. >>683861390VR just launched into shit market conditions. Cooperation was sabotaged out of the gate, the vidya industry was pivoting from AAA into mobileshit and live service slop and all of the people interested in investing into VR invested into the exact wrong things because they were all stockmarket junkies.
>>683857782>>683859962>He is saying what he wants the market to thinkSkill issue, that's what he wants the market to think because that is what he really thinks.
>>683873094But is it? It is sure the most grossing entertainment medium by the numbers but it seems FAR from profitable. Everyone seems to close studios left&right and major consolemakers are throwing themselves on the floor and assuming the position business-wise.
>>683855503/v/ is literally "wrong opinion" on video games
>>683855902He unironically would be if video games never became more complex than they were back in 1977. But they did.
>>683858680People don't enjoy what games have become not what they once were, the issue is they're being made by people that either hate the games, the source material, simply treat it like a 9-5 and are directed by jews in suits that are happy to take ESGbucks to make the game as lame as possible. Some of the best franchises of yesteryear would be equally shit if a pink haired consultant game in and demolished their premise to make it less offensive. For any form of entertainment to be interesting it has to risk offense. Not be an amorphous grey blob.
>>683859882Playstation 5 is one of the most popular consoles in history, retarded piece of shit
>>683859802Bro you are dumber than me when I was a kid and I thought touch screens were gonna be just a fad. Now they're so common that I've seen people randomly touching tv screens assuming it much have a touch interface.
>>683858680people who "don't like modern games" still play video games in general, which proves that it is not a fad, and therefore, both him and you are retarded
>>683877225To be fair the resistive touch screens from our youths sucked balls, I'm sure most people who interacted with a touch screen before capacitive touch screen became common thought it was a gimmicky technology.
>>683873597>Consumers still like videogames, but they will always be a passing fad for the stockmarket.Yeah, reminds me of pic related.
