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Hello /v/,
I'm in Tokyo right now to see this exhibition showing some of the original design documents for MOTHER 2/Earthbound to celebrate it's 30th anniversary. Hobonichi, a company that Itoi owns found a box with the documents inside and decided that now was the appropriate time to open it and show them off. Photography isn't allowed in most of the exhibit, the only things you can take pictures of are the clay models they made for promoting the game back around it's release. I'm going to post notes of what I remember from when I was there earlier today and post the pictures I was able to take. A lot of it was really interesting, the initial setting of the game was almost entirely different.
>The setting was originally more sci-fi, you would start on Earth and then go around to most of the planets in the solar system. Then you would return to Earth after learning that the final boss is there.
>Ness would have talked to you in the original opening/naming screen to get names and other information. It ended with him saying something like "I'm counting on you to not mess up!"
>It also would have asked you for the current date and time implying a real time clock system was considered
>They originally were thinking of having the game be set in 2003 with the events of the first game having more importance, the main characters were all or mostly going to be the descendants of Ninten's party
>The initial design for the title logo had the O as the solar system with a comet/probably the meteor that had an orbit line intersecting Earth
>Giygas and his army's intent was originally going to be more fleshed out, there was an entire page talking about how they wanted to bring "beautiful destruction" to existence and end all "disgusting reoccurring forms of life"
>There were going to be "Psychic Hunters," (サイキック狩り) as in people that hunt psychics. The first "chapter" or part of the game was tentatively named after them
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>>685042192
Based Motherbro, thanks for the info
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I find it weird they have these big exhibitions for Mother. I mean the game is pretty good but not the second coming or anything.
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>>685042379
Itoi's a massive celebrity in Japan with a lot of credit to his name, and the MOTHER series was extensively beloved.
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something actually interesting, on /v/? got any other news OP? also im happy that the original clay figures are still around
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>>685042192
>The setting was originally more sci-fi, you would start on Earth and then go around to most of the planets in the solar system. Then you would return to Earth after learning that the final boss is there.
literally just cogdis before cogdis lmao
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>>685042192
>There were plans for a fifth Eagleland town named Fiverent (ファイブレン)
>Mr. Saturn was called Mr. Silly/Mr. Stupid (バカさん) as a temporary name until they could come up with a better one
>They planned on having a part time job system as a parody of other job/class systems. Doing the part time jobs would give the player characters extra abilities. The only ones that remained were Paula's pray and Poo's transform but there was going to be Judo, Dance, Talk. There were quite a few other ones but I can't remember them right now
>A sprite sheet showed a few completely unused enemies. There was a panther that they later used the body to make the cactus wolf in 3. There was also a refrigerator and a few Starman variants
>There were more ufo's and they had more serious and detailed designs.
>Porky's mech was initially a glass ball with spikes coming out of it
>There was a system based around having conversations with the enemies. Getting them in a good mood would have them stop fighting and leave and making them angry would make them harder to fight
>Ness and Poo's designs were finalized pretty early or they weren't willing to have any other designs shown, Paula went through a few small changes. Jeff at one point looked a lot more like Loid (they also described him as just being another Loid in an early meeting transcript) and there was another scrapped design where he was more scruffy
>They planned to allow for 4 playable party members and 2 following npcs at any time. People and enemies would randomly start following you throughout the game, with the enemies working kind of like Dragon Quest 5. When you started teleporting people would run up to your party so they could go where you're going. There was a very early mockup picture with a early version of Ness in Fourside with a bunch of random characters following him
>Magicant was originally going to be more involved, you would've had to collect poems to progress
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I'm gonna see all this in MonkeyNess' video tomorrow aren't I?
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>>685042379
>>685042452
I'm curious
We all know how Earthbound's cult classic status created a trend of Mother offspring for indie RPGs made by mostly Americans but how many Japanese games are directly influenced by Mother in the same way?
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>>685042897
the most famous japanese RPGMaker indie game was based off of Earthbound
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>>685043013
>based
meant to say inspired but whatever
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>>685042685
>Ness' mom and Tracy along with other characters were going to try to stop him from going into the past and also from leaving Magicant
>They talked about having the cast from the first game come back in the final boss fight, or at least appear in some way
>They also had meetings about making "Planet Nostalgia" where there would be a lot of references to 1. They were going to make a cafe or library where music from the first game would play
>There's unused dialouge for Frank joining you when you go to Giant Step after beating him
>Internally they knew they were going to start a 3rd game right away, so they specially wrote that Porky would "run away to the Midevil era and take over a premodern civilization there," meaning the very general plot or idea of 3 was decided before they even started making it
>The clay models and concept art were made specifically to prevent game magazines and guide making companies from making bad off model art for their publications
>The fact that the models were made of clay saved them, if they were plastic they would've had their colors fade away a long time ago. They were also smart enough to store them in a cool place with no sunlight. They think there's about 100 models total.
>They were conscious of the fact that Nintendo was going to release the game in America and this influenced some of their decisions. There wasn't anything specifying what they changed, it just said they tried to make it more like a western styled movie. The countryside small town setting was chosen as a starting point because both Japanese and American people could appreciate it.
That's about it, I'll continue to post pictures.
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>>685043013
I assume you mean Yume Nikki?
I mean I guess, but really the only thing similar to Earthbound is its weird factor. It's not even an actual RPG
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>>685043013
Oh right Yume Nikki
Can't believe that escaped my mind
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>>685043226
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>>685043280
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>>685042685
>Paula went through a few small changes.
That's kind of hilarious given she's the one who ended up with two clay model designs (sans the American one)
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>>685042897
Picture related, easily my favorite Earthbound-like ever.
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>>685043226
> >The clay models and concept art were made specifically to prevent game magazines and guide making companies from making bad off model art for their publications
Perfect Mario vibes
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>>685043323
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>>685042685
>you could talk to enemies and convince them to not fight
No fucking way. I'll fucking tickle your feet in your sleep if this shit is not true.
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>>685043405
I'm sorry some of the pictures aren't rotated right, I only have my phone to post right now.
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That's cool and all, but can we talk about how shit Milquetoast 3 is?
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>>685042192
>the main characters were all or mostly going to be the descendants of Ninten's party
NINTEN AND ANA FUCKED
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Daily reminder that CHADBound will always be superior to Milquetoast 3.
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>>685043494

>>685042685
I obviously can't really prove any of this since I can't take pictures of the design docs but I swear this is all factual.
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>>685043556
>>685043604
Slit your throat Poopy Joe, we want to have an actual good MOTHER thread for once without your schizofaggotry
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>>685042685
>There was a system based around having conversations with the enemies. Getting them in a good mood would have them stop fighting and leave and making them angry would make them harder to fight
......huh
You think Itoi told Toby that when they talked?
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What is it with Mother and spawning schizoss? Or did Mother 3 break the broke me guy even harder?

Earthbound > Mother 3 though
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>>685043629
Don't acknowledge him
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>>685043738
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>>685043667
>>685043709
What are you schizos talking about? Do you need meds?
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>>685043792
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>>685043806
>n-no u
Typical juxtafag, always deflecting
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>>685043792
i want one....
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>>685043847
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>>685043226
a bit sad they removed nearly all references to Mother 1, but I think it's better in the longer run for it.
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>>685043904

>>685043879
I bet they'll sell replicas, maybe next year.
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>>685043869
Why do you keep making up names? Are you autistic?
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>>685043962
Yeah same
All of this sounds fascinating but I could never sacrifice the Earthbound we got for this
That said, it would have helped stop all the arguments over if Mother 2 takes place in the same world as Mother 1 or not
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>>685044008
Again I'm sorry these aren't rotated right.
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So were you like the one white person the crowd?
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>>685044089
please tell me the Belch model was there too
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>>685044089
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Earthbound fucking sucks
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>>685044030
Stop playing dumb, shitter
We have records of you doing this shit for YEARS
You always have the same posts, same patterns, same manner of deflecting
You deserve to be run over a steamroller crotch-first VERY SLOWLY so that your pain can be savoured before you're flsttened
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>>685044059
yea, as much as it would please a fan like me, it definitely sounds like it veered too much in the member-berry territory. it's funny how nostalgia bombing was alive and well in the 1990s
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>>685044205
That's not very nice.
>>685044025
Please stop impersonating me.
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>>685044173

>>685044112
Yep
>>685044132
Barf is coming down the pipe
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>>685044205
Please take your meds.
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>>685043792
its so weird seeing these models in high quality and not just fuzzy magazine scans
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>>685044284
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>>685044030
not nearly as autistic as your obsession with mother 3 for the past five years. yeah, it's overrated but you make it sound like it's the second coming of satan.
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>>685043323
It was brought up in a previous thread but yeah, the process of adjusting Paula to match up with Ness' slightly updated proportions in Smash just made her look more lanky than she should
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>>685044354
Here he is
>>685044330
It was even more insane seeing them in person
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>>685043806
>>685044025
>>685044294
>thinking about meds
NGMI
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The silver lining to Poopy Joe being here is that he's gonna bump the thread 'til morning
Goodnight and thanks OP
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waiting patiently for my wife
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>>685044448
Above view of the mold on his back.
I have other angles of the other ones too.
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This thread would've been absolutely epic if it weren't a certain sperg the mods should've rangebanned a long time ago.
Thank you for the godly work, OP. May you avoid the Nintendo Ninjas gracefully.
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Looking forward to finding out what models weren't kept
Gonna trigger whatever OCD I have
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>>685044448
>>685044540
fucking glorious, doing everyone a service with all these pics. you should collect them into a catbox/imgur album for ease of access
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For me, it's Mother 1.
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>>685044516
they could not have taken a worse photo for her model
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>>685044540

>>685044516
Venus wasn't there, she might be on display on one of the smaller events they're doing in other parts of the country.
There was a sprite sheet that had her mom on it. She had different eyes basically.
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>>685044605
Based.
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>>685044516
Speaking of her
Found out about this
Its from the official guidebook
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>>685044448
>>685044540
He's beautiful.
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>>685044503
At least we called his shit out early. The more we nip it in the bud, the less he is inclined to go full autismo
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>>685044662
>Venus wasn't there
damn that fuckin sucks. was Octobot there at least? theyre cool
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>>685044662

>>685044589
I'll do that when I get home next week. I'm also going to go a few more times to try to really get everything down and to take more pictures.
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>State that you dislike a particular entry in the Mother series
>Spergs shit and piss their pants and call you a schizo for it
What are Motherfags' problems?
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>>685044782
>>685044778
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>>685044330
Same here. Always thought some of them were made out of felt when I was younger just because of how bad those old photos were
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>>685044814
>call you a schizo for it
>you
You told on yourself
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>>685044840
>the cracked paint and tentacle
Octobot had a hard life...
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>>685044840
From above, the reflective material is really cool
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>>685044814
Classic Nintendie autism.
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Why is he called Poopy Joe anyways?
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>>685044840
damn, shame they couldnt fully preserve his quality but its real nice to see him mostly intact
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>>685044923
>poopy joe using eric-tier lingo
bros... were we dealing with a mentally ill snoy this whole time?
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>>685044915
And finally the boss.
He doesn't have eyes under there, apparently the Frankie one does. I think that one's on display in Osaka. There was also a concept art sheet that showed his eyes and a few different designs for his shades. He was mostly a remnant of when NPC's would join you I guess.
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>>685044915
I remember the Diamond Dog's model looking really cool in the scans, was it also painted to look that way or was it a different material other than clay?
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2>1>3
Simple as.
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>>685045064
>He doesn't have eyes under there, apparently the Frankie one does
From twitter
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>>685045064
Absolute fat ugly bastard energy. I wouldn't expect less from the man (boy) himself.
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>>685044962
spent two or three thousand dollars on scat porn of toriel and isabelle to spam animal crossing and undertale demo threads with the commissions, while crying about degenerate furfags in an attempted "bronies, this is your mindset" falseflag

reverse image searching showed he was the sole source for his porn across the entire internet which means he commissioned it

poopy joe is an almost painfully stereotypical /pol/tard up to and including fashioning himself as an epic agent of chaos and the bearer of old /b/'s torch (the kind that thinks "pool's closed" was a totally epic win happening and not bored 13 year olds in a shitty social game)
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>>685045137
Kubrik ass angle
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>>685045064
There was an entire table dedicated to Mr. Saturn where you were allowed to take pictures of everything.
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You fucks better stop making fun of those who dislike Milquetoast 3, or I swear to God this thread WILL be ruined by us.
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>>685045114
Eh, it's 1>2>3 for me.
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>>685045187
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>>685045161
https://x.com/D_C_Os/status/1819358055282495591
The person who took the shot also got one by the side
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>>685045198
STOP POSTING SECONDS AFTER I POST, I'M TRYING TO FALSEFLAG AS YOU AND RUIN YOUR REPUTATION
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>>685045064
>>685044662
>splitting up models to different exhibitions around the country
my FOMO.....
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>>685045246
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>>685045248
Ruin it as you like. You will NEVER stop me.
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These models are impressively nice and clean from an enjoying art perspective
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>>685045198
Fair enough.
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>>685045246
These are some cool fucking pictures, thanks man. Never imagined they'd have kept those old clay models anywhere, or at least anywhere that they'd find again. Love this shit.
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>>685044540
it feels wrong seeing these models in perspectives other than how theyre shown in game. love this shit OP
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>>685045334
yeah these things are insanely well made, lots of care and love went into all the clay models. no wonder they kept them instead of just smooshing them or using them for target practice or anything after the pictures were taken
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good shit OP
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>>685045328
>>685045328
dude you should stop
he's never going to admit his samefagging, so pretending that he is is just going to make him spam more in order to discredit the other post by posting before the 1 minute cooldown
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>>685045321
They talked about how his eyes being slightly to the side wasn't a limitation of the art but a conscious choice.
Also, most of this art was created after the pixel sheets were made for the previously mentioned promo art.
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>>685045395
To be fair, there could still be missing ones since not all of them are accounted for unless you can you verify each of them to be safe and on display at the various locales
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>>685045158
So how and when did he start latching onto Mother 3?
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>>685045456
A shot from the top
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>>685045456
scientificly engineered derpiness
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>>685045517
And a backshot
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The fact that Mother 3 has no official models says alot about how little fucks Itoi gave about 3 after it's 64 cancellation.
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why is eb the only one to get an exhibition and not the other two joining it
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>>685045505
sometime after he got chased off of cripplechan and 4chan again in 2016-2017, his worst stretch was keeping mother/earthbound threads on total and complete lockdown on /vrpg/ because mods didn't give a fuck about him and that trend only stopped relatively recently, within the past year or two
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>>685045629
Because CHADBound is the greatest game in all of history and deserves everything it gets. Mother 1 is good, but doesn't have much substance to carry a whole show, and I think everyone sensible knows why the worst one didn't get jack shit.
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>>685045587
Here's a similar concept doc of him from the side.
>>685045560
There was a description saying that even though Adobe and similar graphic design programs existed during development that the artist for these still drew these bevel curves by hand.
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>>685045629
wouldve loved to see Mother 1 models in high quality. This shitty Teddy scan is iconic in its own right by this point
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>>685042680
CogDis was ass, but the concept was cool.
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It's kinda amazing how some autist was able to gaslight so many people into thinking any critique of Mother 3 is all somehow made by one person that's obsessed with an 18 year old game for some reason.

By the way, I dropped Mother 3 on that chapter where you play as Salsa. Terrible game design.
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>>685045750
>the artist for these still drew these bevel curves by hand
>perfectly spaced lines and curves
completely unnecessary but very funny
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>>685045857
sorry you have to latch onto an insane person's post history for clout anon. i'm thinking about you
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>>685045648
Tbf, it's easier to get your shit called out on VRPG
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>>685045750
Close up of Ness from the start.
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>>685042897
I know there is a Mother 1 world in Yume Nikki
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>>685045456
>>685045750
The biblically accurate Mr. Saturn...
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>>685045942
I love his stupid flex pose
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>>685045897
You're replying to him, fucktard. I hate you niggers who keep giving him (You)s despite complaining since 100 fucking posts ago so goddamn much.
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>>685045851
>CogDis was ass
You take that back. It was pure soul.
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>>685045857
For me, it was the bizarre tonal dissonance.
>Haha funny fart joke
>Also your mother is fucking dead and capitalism raped your brother
The previous games never had this issue. Dunno why Itoi messed it up with M3.
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>>685045942
Itoi's signature with a drawing of the original sketch he made of Mr. Saturn. They were in the process of making a plushie of it and showed off a prototype about 2 years ago so I'm surprised they didn't finish it for this.
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>>685042685
>showed a few completely unused enemies. There was a panther that they later used the body to make the cactus wolf in 3. There was also a refrigerator and a few Starman variants

Do you have pics
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>>685045627
This may be true, but I’ve always appreciated that about Mother 3, that it seems to have confidence in the efficacy of its sprites and animations
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obligatory schizo aside, this is the most fun i've had in a mother thread in years
good job, lads
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I remember there was some exhibition where they "recreated" porkys room - is that the same exhibition OP?
Love the pictures you are pretty cool.
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>>685046073
Here's Hip Tanaka's signature. There were also pictures of him and Keiichi Suzuki from back then in a little section at the end about the music.
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>>685046058
Yea I dunno why Itoi made the writing choices he did with that game. He really should've stuck with Earthbound 64 instead lol
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>>685046084
product of the times imo, bad promo art on the advertiser's end was largely solved by the time mother 3 got out of development hell and released, so therefore no need for clay models as described
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>>685044059
How is that a thing the game is literally called the return of giegue
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>>685046231
I would do anything to get Earthbound 64 instead of the inferior version we got.
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>>685044662
>There was a sprite sheet that had her mom on it. She had different eyes basically.

>no milf venus
We were robbed
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>>685046210
And here's me leaving the event.
Thank you all for your kind words and actually encouraging discussion about the game, mostly.
Like someone here said I'll make a catbox of these when I get back, with the correct rotations.
I'm also going to go back probably two more times, tell me if you want me to get a certain angle on something. I'll make maybe one more thread in a few days.

>>685046083
Sprite sheets were all in no photography zones, sorry.
>>685046209
That was last year around this time.
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>>685046314
Same here though I guess it is what it is. This whole talk about Mother is making me wanna replay Mother 1. Might plan to do so on the weekends once I get done with Skies of Arcadia.
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>>685046303
mother 2 occupies a weird and slightly contradictory spot where it's intended to be both a remake of the first game and a direct sequel to the first game and compromises both things by implying and premising itself on mother happening but not mentioning anything that's actually happened/the world wasn't affected by the previous game's characters
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> This is what zoomers put in exhibitions.

Total clown world.
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True reminder:
1>2>3
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>>685046553
didn't know FF7R was an earthboundlike
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>>685046485
Pleaee don't leave the schizo will go all out once you leave
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Milquetoast 3 insists upon itself.
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>>685046058
Is it fun?
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>>685046485
Thanks si much for posting everything. I was having a bad day and forgot how much I loved this game and how much Mr Saturns made me happy
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This is what I imagine when Mother 3fags say that the game "broke" them.
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>>685046485
would love to just see side profiles of the models. like >>685045391 said, its fun seeing them in different angles. real nice stuff though OP, happy to see someone here actually able to go to the exhibition
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>>685043604
>>685045193
>>685046673
.
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>>685043595
Kinda surprised Lloyd got a woman

Good for him
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Is this autist going shit up every single mother thread until the end of time?
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>>685046814
But there's no milk toast in this game only nut bread
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>>685045857
You literally dropped it at the worst part before the part where the game actually opens up somewhat and actually becomes interesting.

I mean I guess it's for worldbuilding but who the fuck thought being the escort in a escort mission with Ie Happy Merchant would be fun?
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>>685046836
yes
filter him, count yourself lucky he's the specific kind of unfunny dork that repeats his own jokes over and over so he's easy to filter
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>>685046836
He's a primordial form of evil like Giygas at this point.
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>>685046836
Yup, and there's nothing you can do to stop me. I'm too powerful for the jannies.
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>>685045857
Yeah, it's bizarre what /v/ has turned to. It's literally impossible to have discussion on Mother 3 without these literal schizos shitting it up for no reason.
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>>685046972
Its like that everywhere on 4chan now.
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>>685046972
>everybody but me is the schizo!
>says the obvious schizo
Stop trying to hide it.
And it's obvious you mainly only post after a post pretending to be you triesmto discredit you and make you look bad by assuming you're one person. Which... you are
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>>685046814
KEEEEEEEEEEEK
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Damn there's so much cool Mother merch now
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>>685046314
Most N64 games aged like garbage tho. GBA sprites anyday, everyday.
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>>685047140
Yeah but mother 64 had panty shots
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You will all burn in hell for making fun of me. If you ban me, I will only get stronger.
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>>685047103
stop fucking replying to it you ape, its an attention seeker, youre only feeding it
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>>685047103
Meds.
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>>685042192
Thank you for the dedication, thread and all pictures, anon. That was fun.
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>>685042192
>>685046485
Based OP. Hope you get more pics of the clay figures or concept art soon. Did they have Giygas or the other bosses on display, and did they also show off developer material from the other two games?
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>>685047197
>>685047292
>it's past one minute apart
Holy shit... I think he's finally admitting he's samefagging. Never thought I'd see the day
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>>685045857
>mfw impossible to dislike Mother 3 because schizos will literally screech at you and call you a schizo
Hurts to be a Mother 1 chad
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>>685046765
Ok, here's side shots I took of the party members.
The enemies might be a little hard since they're in one long case but if I go when there isn't as many people I can probably get some angles.
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>>685047384
i can tell you're genuinely a different person because Poopy Joe always uses punctuation at the end of sentnces
also, hello fellow m1 chad
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>>685047402
he looks like he's pulling a neo.
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>>685047336
No Giygas art actually, now that you mention it.

I'm going to take a break to eat food, please talk about the game.
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>>685047140
The vehicle and exploration seemed nice in those leaked beta videos with some big areas and all. I doubt the original game was on-rails like the game we got.
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>>685047479
>Using punctuation makes you a schizo now
The absolute state of /v/
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>>685047546
Silly Op. This is a Mother thread, we don't talk about games, only rampant schzophrenia.
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>>685047605
way to miss my entire point
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>>685047546
That sucks. I can see why for the sake of spoilers or the negative impact it can have on those who are unaware of Giygas, but at the same time its the one boss that might have the most interesting development story of them all
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I'm glad Nintendo lets Itoi/Hobonichi do whatever they want with the Mother series. Lord knows how protective they are even if actual developers are sharing their own tidbits of unreleased/unused design concepts
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>>685047546
We've been trying to talk about Mother, but for some reason autists make it impossible to discuss Mother 3 in particular. Whenever anybody criticizes it, they always throw a hissy fit about it. I didn't expect video game discussion on /v/ to be this bad.
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>>685047564
We would have had more story too apparently some chapters were cut or xut down.

Also this is personal but I fucking hate how bright GBA games are and tinny the sound was. Moody n64 graphics would have been cool
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>>685047858
Ignore and report. If you don't you're making it worse.
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>>685047953
youre replying to "him"
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>>685047953
You're replying to him, YOU COLOSSAL RETARD. All the posts going "awwww the meanies won't let me criticize Mother 3 :(" are him you DUMB NIGGER.
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>>685047858
If it was just genuine criticism, I would understand that. That's quite a bit different than spamming the same hundred posts every thread about the series because you're a sad, pathetic, and lonely man who will never be Barneyfag no matter how hard he tries.
Hang yourself, you disengenuous piece of dried, chunky dogshit.
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>>685047953
anon he is the only person talking about mother 3 in the whole thread because this is a mother 2/earthbound thread
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>>685047953
Will do.
>>685048063
>>685048078
>>685048108
Please take your meds.
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>>685048063
>>685048078
You were replying to him, too
You do know he likes to reply to himself to reinforce his "points", right?
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Don't feed the troll.
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im surprised he hasnt statted spamming that generic korean character yet
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I love how his only defense on being called out is "meds meds meds". It'd be the funniest cope imaginable if it weren't so pitiful
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>>685048363
qrd?
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>>685048363
he only does it when the Kumatora guy shows up
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>>685048383
Reasoning with schizos is impossible, hence why they need meds.
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>>685048440
I hope he does, at least that gives me something pretty to look at during hismderanged rants.
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>>685048440
ive been here, this is (was) a good Earthbound thread, theres no need to post Kumas
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>>685048504
Oops, I forgot the other "defense" you for your delusions: projection
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>>685047546
Back, just a few more extra pictures.
>>685047564
You reminded me of some really cool stuff.
>There were more vehicles planned, both as ones that were just in cutscenes and ones you could actually use. There was a meeting summary that listed them. They thought about have roller skates and a spaceship for back when you would go to other planets.
>The item storage was originally done with the bike guy in his store. He would have lockers that were opened with codes, so if someone figured out your code you could get stuff stolen. They didn't outright say this but you would probably be taught codes that would let you get bonus items.
>There were going to be more services in each location like this and they were going to give you the ability to teleport early on so you could actually use them.
>They considered having completely cosmetic clothing for each character at one point.
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>>685048645
they really wanted a ton from the SNES huh? makes sense why a bunch of the ideas would have had to have been cut
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He basically admitted >>685047197 that he was samefagging.
And he can't prove he didn't say it either, cuz that'd end up proving he said everything else. Lose lose for him.
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>>685048770
a lot of it sounds like it was cut for time/budget/developmental strain imo, else mother 2 would have itself been pushed to N64 or GBA and not mother 3
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>>685048645
Hinestly, I like the fact that there was only one vehicle (the bicycle) that only lasts for, like, a minute and you never use it again. Really just adds to the joke that this isn't your typical JRPG
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>>685048857
no yeah, thats what I mean. Makes sense though, Itoi was a writer, not a game designer
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>>685048645
>so if someone figured out your code you could get stuff stolen
That would be pretty fun for losing to some low level thugs in the early game. Instead of killing you, they beat you up and get your code out of you to ransack your locker, leaving only Key Items for various reasons.
>you would probably be taught codes that would let you get bonus items
Imagine getting a code during the final stretch of the game (i.e. post-Giygas) for the sole purpose of letting you open it in the early game and shake up a second playthrough. Man, I can see some fun behind this, now I'm sad it didn't make it in.
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>>685042192
ur mother's a secret exhibitionist
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>>685048762
This is about it.
Again, I'll make a catbox probably next Saturday for ease of viewing and make a thread then.
I'm also going to go back once or twice so I'll make another thread in a few days with some extra info and more pictures hopefully.
Please find the 8 words and filter the evil from these threads.
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>>685049028
thats actually a fun idea, but would only work for games pre-internet. imagine all the schoolyard rumors of specific locker codes that woulsve been spread around (if Earthbound actually sold well)
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>>685049213
I salute thee, anon
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>>685049213
thanks again OP. now give us your Fuck, Marry, Kill on Ana, Paula, and Kumatora
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>>685049237
I was thinking that too, it could've been spmewhat close to a pokemon level of connectivity.
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>>685049301
fuck kuma
marry (older) paula
i can't bring myself to kill ana, so i will just plitely ignore her
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>>685045064
It's so cool so many of these are still in great shape.
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>>685049301
Not him but marry Paula, kill Kumatora and let Ninten live happily with Ana.
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>>685049384
>not marrying Ana
for shame OP, for shame
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>>685049301
Fuck Kumatora, Marry Kumatora in the post dragon world and kill myself so I can get transfered into her world.
Ana and Paula are already dead or their "characters" are gone in 3.
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>>685049528
based Kumabro
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>>685049438
I legit thought this was the toy they released in 2010 when I saw it not the clay model.
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>>685043353
Really? I though about playing it back then, but had so many games and the reviews were growing ( I used to care about those when I was younger).
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>>685049781
I'm assuming Nintendo has these somewhere secure- Or Itoi just has them. Either way they'd make gangbusters if they sold replicas of these.
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>>685049918
It's a flawed game which apparently had huge development problems (and it shows), but I can't stress enough how amazing of an experience it is at the same time. The lonely environments coupled with the amazing music, the weird and mostly unexplained plot with the villain group, the entire meta thing culminating with the twist at the end. It's such an incredibly unique game that any seeker of Earthbound-inspired games owes to themselves to play.
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>>685043486
That part blew my mind as well. Undertale would be a very different game, probably.
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Today, OP wasn't a faggot
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>>685050160
>Flawed game
So was Earthbound.
You already convinced me. I hacked my 3DS recently to play Investigations but, since it will have a Switch version soon, I will play Contact instead.
Very few games can itch that Mother scratch.
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>>685042192
That sounds pretty awesome, perhaps longtime modders or devs will be inspired to make Earthbound Alpha based on those ideas
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>>685044692
>that paula face is official AND on model
lmaoooo
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>>685050616
Enjoy, brother. Make sure to explore thoroughly, most importantly by revisiting old areas.
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>>685042685
>>There was a system based around having conversations with the enemies. Getting them in a good mood would have them stop fighting and leave and making them angry would make them harder to fight
d-did toby know this all along?
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>>685051027
I forgot these!
These are from the Hobonichi store in Jimbocho.
There's this picture of me and a few more clay models.
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>>685051256
I didn't think to get close ups of the other two so I'll have to go back.
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>>685051189
>>685051256
>>685051324
No Runaway Five, OP?
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>>685046820
I bet Dr.Andonuts was supposed to be Lloyd in the design documents
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>>685051324
Any of the New Age Hippie?
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>>685051418
I even took an illegal picture of some of the concept art here, you can see that Belch has arms that didn't make it into the game.
Now I'm done for real.
>>685051401
No models, I do think they had some concept art of them.
They also just released a bunch of merch for them because for the livestream concert they did a few months ago.
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>>685051556
I take it for granted nowadays but damn the Starman design is fucking perfect. Made of simple shapes, an easy to remember outline, and a just smooth and awkward enough texture to feel alien. And all you have to do to make more is change the hue of it (they also added spikes).
I fucking love that thing.
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Threads like this are why I still come to this shithole. Thanks OP
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>>685051665
It is perfect. There's this smug superiority about it with its hands on its hips and its shades. That also gives it the typical 'bouncer keeping you out of the club' feeling. Like it's not just there because it's a slightly miffed mushroom, but because it's specifically trying to stop you.
Plus, just the smooth, featureless design gives them that alien presence that obviously reminds you of that alien from 'The Day the Earth Stood Still'. You're forced to wonder if they're aliens, robots, or both.
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>>685045158
Most of my time is on /mu/ and they had a Mother music or just osts in general thread. I was saying I loved the Earthbound ost and there was this cool guy who was talking to me about the music but he also mentioned thats there's a schizo on here about Mother 3 or something iirc. Now I understand what he meant.
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>>685052197
Was he based on picture related?
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>>685046010
oh shit i never realized he's flexing his biceps
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How would you even have concept art modeled for Gyigas? Insanity
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>>685042192
>Giygas and his army's intent was originally going to be more fleshed out, there was an entire page talking about how they wanted to bring "beautiful destruction" to existence and end all "disgusting reoccurring forms of life"
Sounds kinda based honestly
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>>685042192
damn where is this in tokyo? Currently there rn and might as well go there than see it through posts
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>>685042192
Thanks for making this thread, OP. For once OP wasn't a faggot.
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>>685052908
feel like giygas and the whole devil's machine stretch would've been just as much a dev surprise as a ppayer surprise
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>>685053613
Shibuya Parco
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>>685043353
based choice, no one else at my school, never talked about to anyone about this when i was young and dit bumed me out
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Do you have pics of all the unused enemy like the panther? I've heard about them and saw some very low-quality / blurry photos.
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>>685055783
>>685051556
You can kind of see it here, I'm not going to take direct pictures of things they don't want taken because it's rude to the people running the event.
Very far right frame second from the left
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>>685056041
I see. I heard someone has high-quality photos of them and I would be very curious to see them for ROM hacking and documenting purposes. Could you at least describe all of the unused ones?
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>>685056041
NTA, but I don’t understand how it would be rude. If they didn’t want people to take pictures of specific things, then they would have just kept said things in their archives.
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>>685056226
I agree with this, especially as a lot of it is vital information for archiving and documenting purposes. With hacking it's also possible to add new NPCs and enemies so info like this could be used for restoration hacks.
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Thank you OP this I was really lovely to go through. Best thread /v/s had in ages.
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>>685051189
>>685051324

The metallic ones look so good. I would easily buy Starman if I could.
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>>685042192
Great thread OP. Any more pics of the new Ness figure, did they have them for sale?
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You have to win a raffle to be able to buy it and it seems like this is one of the few things they're not doing international shipping for.
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I am conflicted with by one side happy that the Earthbound we got, but also by other side sad of what could have been.
Still, good job OP.
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I've never played these games. Do you have to start with the first one? Or is earthbound more approachable?
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>>685063448
Play Mother 2 first, and try to play Mother 1, and if not go to Mother 3.
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Putting in a request for a close-up of these
also whatever that notebook is
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>>685063448
Just don't play Milquetoast 3. It's one of the worst Jrpgs I've ever played to the point I dropped it on chapter 6.
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One last bump from. Beautiful thread.
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>>685063448
Mother 2, if you like it proceed tto Mother 1 so you will understand the whole PSI thing and then 3.

>>685042192
Great thread anon. So they have more than 100 clay models? That's amazing, I think that they have at least 1/3 of the characters.
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>>685046485
Please try to get photos of the unused enemies and bosses. Especially the floating Porky sprite next to the Ego Orb, the Starman variants and the weird Terminator tinfoil guy.
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>>685063448
Mother 1 is pretty basic but I found it neat. Not as grindy as people would have you believe either.
Also this track touches my heart deeply, even in its 8-bit form.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI3PobnV_js
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>>685068020
I too really like Mother's soundtrack. So many good tracks.
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>>685063448
Play Mother 2 and 3, then if you can stomach the nes jank play Mother 1. Or wait for one of the Mother 1 fan remasters to drop.
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>>685046303
Basically how Mother 1 is set in America but Mother 2 is set in "Eagleland" and how we know the Mother 1 connections were dropped hard in the Mother 2 we got
Even the Japanese seem to argue about it, a wiki page for Mother 2 goes as far as to call it a parallel world
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>>685068020
I remember hours of grinding at the beginning and also at Mt. Itoi's base. Story-wise Mother 1 is incredible but having to travel through Magicant over and over gets trite quickly.
I'd like to play it again but my patience is not the same it used to be.
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>>685049301
I cherish Ninten/Ana and Ness/Paula so much as ships that I wouldn't dare cucking Ness and Ninten or murder their loved ones
Kumatora is also cool and while not as explicit as the other pairings, the art director at least ships her with Duster and he's too much of a bro
I kill myself instead
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>>685046836
We somehow had one recently without him
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>>685049301
The right answer is to fuck Kumatora, marry Paula and kill Porky
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>>685048770
>>685048857
Reminder that Mother 3 was also ambitious back when it was on the N64
https://youtu.be/D4A2Cab1qq4?si=c7CBnDVTWawvXW_E&t=2458
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>>685042685
>They planned to allow for 4 playable party members and 2 following npcs at any time
So that explains the unused Everdread ghost sprite in the game's files.
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>>685062706
>other side sad of what could have been.
Just remember, if it wasn't executive meddling or similar odds are it was a mess
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Not sure how much of this is already posted here but it's out
https://youtu.be/Qg_WkIoPbmw?feature=shared
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>>685042192
Thank you very much for sharing this stuff!
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>>685070949
Itoi supposedly changed it because he thought the space travel concept was too cliche.
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>Was supposed to explore planets in our solar system
>Creepypasta ROM hack video mentions the same concept days prior

Would love to see all this stuff made into a restoration or beta hack of some sort. Thank you OP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWp5GinsDXY
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>zero pictures of the interesting stuff anywhere
>all of that will probably never again see the light of the day
fucking sucks m8
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>>685073937
It kind of is
A lot of Earthbound's charm comes from how urban it is, how it truly feels like you're just a kid (albeit one with psychic powers) making off on his own with the big swings in science fiction happening in the latter half of the game
Something like Akiko or Zita the Spacegirl would be cool in its own right but at that point, I don't think it'd be Earthbound anymore
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>>685074372
Japan takes no photography very seriously
IIRC Victini was revealed at a movie theater and the gaijin who took photos were in serious trouble for it so when a new XY Pokemon was shown in a trailer exclusive to a theater, NOBODY wanted to take the shot because of what happened before
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>>685045942
do you play fortnite
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>>685074372
There are very interesting photos of unused enemies / sprites in clear quality, but they are not being shared yet, give it time. As far as we know there's 3 enemy sprite sheets, 2 with unused designs (Only 1 was captured as far as we know), and 1 with the unused Porky sprite.
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>>685047782
Itoi owns like 1/3 or 1/2 of the IP so it's not like they're gonna stop him
I've seen people speculate he might be the reason why Nintendo doesn't smite down fan projects related to Mother
I fucking hope we don't see a 180 pulled when the man kicks the bucket
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>>685075935
There are content creators I know that have had their content taken down by Nintendo with other IPs, yet never their EarthBound stuff. The only situation that's happened is when Sony (Yes, not Nintendo) would copyright strike EarthBound fangame / hack videos for music because Sony owns (owned?) the right to a Mother 2 music CD they released a while back. Nothing since though.
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wasnt my nigga lil' ufo in the exhibit?
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>>685075879
I wouldn't be surprised if the big reveal at the end of August is a book detailing the event exclusive content and more
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>>685049301
Lovingly adopt Paula as my sweet, feminine but tomboyish daughterfu and make sure she's raised right
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>>685074229
It was the logical step after defeating Giygas in Mother 1, but they went more into the "children with psychic powers and things go haywire because that alien left some statue that makes animals and evil people behave strangely" path.
I don't know how but it somehow worked.
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>>685052213
oh shit i was actually around for that /mu/ thread i don't use /mu/ much it's a shithole, yeah that was the same guy after he got banned repeatedly from /v/ so he gave up and moved on to a board where reports were less likely to work at that particular moment
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>>685074229
the second buzzbound video is pretty cool with it being a bad end specifically because you took your time, grinded and explored, got new weapons and armors, got cocky and thought you'd save the timeline that's already doomed, and you fucked around long enough that you gave time for ness to be completely consumed instead of just controlled and made things completely hopeless in the process
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>8 Melodies
>Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune, Uranus
GET FUCKED PLUTO
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>>685080149
Heh, he’s like Porky between mother 2 and 3, running around getting kicked out of different places
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How do you pronounce Onett?
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>>685084381
One titty.
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Amazing thread OP. Thank you
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>>685046084
>>685045627
I think that just came more due to the development hell Mother 3 was in above anything else
Not only are there no clay models, there is to my knowledge no concept art whatsoever of Mother 3 or even promotional art
No illustrations, no nothing which is weird for a GBA game for the time
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>>685084381
"One-ette" is how I've always interpreted it since it's a naming scheme but in my heart it's always been "on it".
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>>685087369
Correction
There is concept art but it's nothing major such as with the core cast's final designs
https://mother4ever.net/art-mother3/
As much flack as certain fan depictions of the cast get (Mother 3's fan made clay models and the Smashified's renders), the former predates Brawl and you have to remember this
The sprites were never 1:1 depictions of the intended looks for the characters in prior Mother games
The previous Mother thread had a whole conversation on why clay model Paula and sprite Paula don't line up well in people's heads and Kumatora in Smash Ultimate being so faithful to the sprite makes her stick out
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>>685042685
It's always bittersweet seeing stuff like this, I'm glad we get to see it at all and the final product is fine but damn a lot of this sounds like pure kino.
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>>685043226
I read somewhere that the clay models were actually paper mache. So they really were clay all along?
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>>685089613
Mistranslation
The person who said they were paper mache admitted it was a mistake
They're not traditional clay or paper mache but instead were made out of paper clay
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Bump for others
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>>685042192
Thank you
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>>685083147
It's okay. Nothing bad happened.
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>>685046485
Really thanks for the read and gallery, anon
but tell us
did you go "say 'fuzzy pickes' " every time you took a snap inside
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That was pretty cool. Thank you, OP.
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Thanks OP, I love in Tokyo and didn't know about the event.
Gonna go check it out
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>>685096102
>one word
soul
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>>685045187
>>685045246
>>685045321
>>685045456
>>685045517
>>685045587
>>685045750
DAKOTA!!!
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>>685099357
LOL so randumb xDDD
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>>685096102
Fascinating
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>>685099517
Boing.
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>>685046485
This was a coold thread. I can't believe I almost missed it.
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>>685060613
That's so ridiculous, my sides.
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>>685047782
>>685075935
>>685076186
Itoi wholly owns the Mother franchise, and if he were to die his children would inherit his work. Nintendo strictly owns console publishing rights (if there were to be a sequel, and not the ip). Meanwhile Hal and Creatures own the code to the games they contributed their efforts to. Please stop parroting this lie, I don’t know where it came from but it’s really warping people’s impression of the series.

Every Mother related merch goes straight to Itoi so please buy his mother notebooks from his website.
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>>685102962
>, I don’t know where it came from but it’s really warping people’s impression of the series.
>Scroll down to bottom
>Copyright Nintendo/Shigesato Itoi
https://www.1101.com/mother_project/items/friends_en.html
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>>685043494
>Paula's eyes are slightly embossed
sovl
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>>685103470
They own the MOTHER trademark, the name to use in commerce. What did you expect? Owning a trademark isn’t the same as owning a ip
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>>685103470
nta, I checked here, could that may be related to the games?

>>685102962
So, if he hired someone to reverse engineer the code, could he release it on PC?
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>>685103894
>Owning a trademark isn’t the same as owning a ip
Trademark and copyright are also different things
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>>685103894
>owning a ip
>ip
retarded lawlet detected. learn what that term means before opening your dumb lawlet mouth
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>>685042192
Today, OP wasn't a faggot.
Extremely based
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>>685103948
>So, if he hired someone to reverse engineer the code, could he release it on PC?
No, he made a full commitment for Nintendo to have publishing rights. Remember how Sega owns Bayonetta but bought out the console publishing rights from Sega? Any Bayo merch would go to Sega and plat, but anything pertaining to the game partially goes to Nintendo (ie amiibo)
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>>685102962
>don’t know where it came from but it’s really warping people’s impression of the series.
Smash Bros and co-ownership is the norm for non in-house Nintendo IPs
Look at Pokemon or Kirby or Fire Emblem
Got any proof Itoi fully owns Mother and it isnt the typical split deal?
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>>685104163
>retarded lawlet detected
Ip means intellectual property, please get your dick out of your mouth.
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>>685104163
nta, but I think that he means that
The name Mother is the trademark.
The ingame assets are the copyrights.
The code/logic doesn't belong to him.

>>685104257
It makes sense, but where did you get this info from?
Also, wouldn't console publishing rights be different from PC, since PC is not a console?
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>$200 for a chipped paint Ness figure
What the fuck is wrong with Itoi (and Nintendo if they decide this stuff). Jesus Christ.
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>>685104372
>nta, but I think that he means that
>The name Mother is the trademark.
>The ingame assets are the copyrights.
>The code/logic doesn't belong to him.
Yeah that’s what I meant, my bad
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>>685104345
you can't own "an" intellectual property moron. you own copyright, trademarks, patents, trade secrets, etc.
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>>685105049
but where did you get this info from anon? Is PC considered a console in this case?
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>>685042192

OP do you think you can help me get merch from the exhibit? Would send payment of course. Its something that is 3300 yen so not as much. I couldnt get it online cuz it sold out. Big mother fan. My email is Stardewleaf@yahoo.com
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>>685105615
>but where did you get this info from anon? Is PC considered a console in this case?
An interview with Itoi, you can dig it up on Starman iirc. When asked about a sequel, he said that the mother trilogy is done and if he were to make another mother game; it’s strictly in Nintendo’s hands. So unless Nintendo wants Mother on Steam, it’s not happening. The only exception are those funky consoles they release in China like that one time they placed a Mario game on the Chinese Nvidia shield

>>685105706
Bro, just go to 1101.com and check the mother project tab
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>>685084381
On-it.
>b-but what about the numb-
Shut up. This is like calling Tidus from FFX "Tee-dus" because it's """canon""" when "Tie-dus" rolls off the tongue easier AND goes with his water motif.
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>>685107378
But if owns the copyrights for everything, except for the logo, he could just change the name of the series and continue it. Didn't that happen to Story of Season/Harvest Moon?

Maybe he doesn't have the resources to hire a dev team?
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>>685107820
I think it's more likely that, being an older man, he feels like the series is complete. Doing these sorts of events and saying hello to fans on the street is probably what keeps the chap happy now.
As you get older you realize there's a lot more to life than just work, even if it's "work" that means a lot to people.
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There is a scrapped flesh-colored refrigerator enemy about to open himself and he has a face with zero innocence on it.

You'll just have to believe me when you'll see it.
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>>685107970
yeah, it makes sense. It's crossed my mind. He'd have to hire a ton of people to make a good product now. For a safer route he could've go into Kickstarter, still it's a lot of work.
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>>685108245
I don't think it would take that many people, certainly no more than 2006. I work for a large studio, trust me, you'd be surprised how large teams can actually create huge and unnecessary bottlenecks for even small tasks.
A game series with the scope of Mother doesn't need many people or even that much money. It just needs a clear vision and a small group to execute that vision with passion.
Games made by small teams are always the best to be honest.
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>>685044008
How did Itoi get away with depicting the Ku Klux Klan?
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>>685046485
Me and the boys crashing the mother exhibit (we are violently beaten with baseball bats)
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>>685108846
I see, it makes sense.
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>>685108153
I didn't even realize it was holding its handle until you said this. I just thought it was a lightbulb pointing/scratching its chin in an evil way.
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>>685108153
>>685109525
Can you crudely draw it?
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>>685047759
>>685052908
Maybe if there's a mother 1 exhibit/section someday there'll be a model of his original form
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>>685110790
That fridge looks like it's not allowed within 500 yards of a school.
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>>685110790
literally me
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>>685110790
It probably gets off to showing its insides to people
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>>685044354
Pretty fucked up of them to have a stereotypical Turk depicted like that.
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>>685110790
Probably an early sprite of those psi psychos you fight in the volcano.
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>>685110790
I woder what it's name was? Shifty Fridge?
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There was also a stretched out dark green Mook with four eyes. Not 100% accurate but close.
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>>685111747
Sounds more like a localized name
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>>685110790
>>685111480
>>685112036
Thanks
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>>685111747
>>685112764
There wasn't any names on the sheet sadly. This text was all there was.
SCREEN : ( 4bitmode , 8*8 )
CHARACTER : ooyama1/MON-matome-04.CGX
COLOR : ooyama1/MONSTER-C.COL ( 80 - FF )
1991-02-25 (Mon) 14:22
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>>685113080
....you memorized all that?
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>>685113150
Anon took a photo and the Nintendo Ninjas are coming
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I'm jealous of all the anons that get to go to Japan. I hope I can visit some day.
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Starman Junior has his own battle sprite. He look like a smaller starman with a red dot in his visor, which explains the overworld sprite. He wasn't pink like in Mother 1, sadly. There's a bunch of scrapped starman sprites.
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>>685110790
What's inside him /v/?
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>>685044516
For me, it's the mysterious woman
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>>685046485
blessed thread. OP was not a fag OP was in fact a Based and Motherpilled enjoyer of ludo
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>>685114069
The sourest of creams
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Oh no, EarthBound sisters!
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>>685051665
>>685052197
>>685051189
My favorite enemy in the franchise. Thanks for making this thread OP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjdhctfCqLo
I think they're cyborgs, if they can use PSI, they have to have some organic qualities under their metallic exterior.
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>>685118203
His primary source: he made it up
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>>685118203
Butthurt eceleb because he didn’t show the details first
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>>685118243
One of the coolest thing about these guys is that they end up coming off as the real antagonists of the first two games. Giygas seems like a victim of theirs that they drove into madness. You almost feel sorry. What kind of a society do these guys have that has such strong social pressure?
They're real sick, these smooth motherfuckers.
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>>685118763
We don't even know if Starmen are even members of Giygas' race or not
The aliens in Earthbound aren't monolithic
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>mother
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>>685118992
tell your children not to look my way
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>>685118763
How so? I'm curious on why you think that.
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>>685118203
HE'S RIGHT YOU KNOW
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>>685119135
I mean, one would assume. They were the ones operating the Apple of Knowledge and such, which is what worked out the entire invasion of Earth. They're the only ones who seem to take up positions of authority in the invasion.
And in the first game, aliens kidnap the grandparents who become Giygas's parents. Why is Giygas invading his parents' planet? Only to eliminate PSI from the world. He doesn't have a personal reason, and even offers to spare Ninten. He's being forced to invade.
Giygas is only a threat to the world because his evil aura makes people crazy. The Starmen are the ones moving the actual invasion forward. As far as I'm concerned, the real big bad guy of Earthbound is Starman Deluxe.
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>>685084381
wunt
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I'm probably too late but was the Electro-Specter model on display, OP?
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>>685119937
>As far as I'm concerned, the real big bad guy of Earthbound is Starman Deluxe
Player's guide calls it a new Starman prototype explaining why there's only one so unless it's a Serpentor situation (or this is a localization only thing) it wouldn't make sense for it to be leader of the whole army and not just the base
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>>685119937
In that case, would Final Starman be the mastermind behind the Onett invasion? I think Giygas is pretty much unstable relatively early on and someone had to take the reigns unless he was still able to give orders while he was becoming what he became.
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>>685083147
>it's called Peaceful Rest Valley
>these fuckers exist

What an absolute fucking lie that was
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>>685084381
O-Net
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>>685120491
Peaceful Rest is sort of an ephemism for being dead. But I expected it to be more like Threed rather than filled with Colds and Exploding Trees.
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At that point, I feel like you've repelled the actual invasion of the Starmen. All you see are ghosts of them in Onett.
If anything, the aliens still protecting Giygas in the Cave of the Past may have just been trying to keep the evil aura flowing out so that Earth would still be destroyed even without the invasion force.
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Is earthbound actually fun ?

I used to act like I played it on the old nintendo forums because I thought it made me look cool lol, but I'm curious if it holds up
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>>685120873
>All you see are ghosts of them in Onett.
It's actually more of a metaphor than literal description
They're called Starman's Ancestor in Japanese and the theory goes that they were supposed to be solely in the Cave of the Past but got moved to invaded Onett late in development despite not making sense regarding name
That said, I prefer them being ghosts though (even though they're robotic in nature but hey that didn't stop Transformers)
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>>685121046
It only took one screenshot of Ness finding a burger in a trash can to sell me on it. The rest was history.
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>>685121046
It's fun if you're into JRPGs or quirky humor
I like the scrolling health mechanic
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>>685121116
Like someone said above, if they're cyborgs with psychic powers, why wouldn't they create specters of themselves?
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>>685121334
Leaning on the rules of Nen from Hunter x Hunter, if they 'die', their PSI grows unstable and they return as the undead with stronger powers.
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>>685118203
I know you are here monkeyness. Eat shit we got the info first.
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>>685121432
Yeah, that sounds about right.
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>>685118243
Kind of surprised Mother 3 didnt at least reference them given how iconic they are
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>>685120873
I would assume anything following Giygas is under his influence. The machines are programmed and the Starmen act as if they're sentient when in reality their minds are almost as broken as his. Not that he's actually mentally controlling them, but the influence makes them act like they're on cocaine and lsd so they're not truly rational.
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>>685122782
Porky was more of a Octobot person.
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>>685121046
It's a JRPG so the gameplay is not fun, no. Everything else is good though.
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>>685119780
Prove it.
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>>685043226
>>They were conscious of the fact that Nintendo was going to release the game in America and this influenced some of their decisions. There wasn't anything specifying what they changed, it just said they tried to make it more like a western styled movie. The countryside small town setting was chosen as a starting point because both Japanese and American people could appreciate it.
That's honestly a thoughtful thing considering that NOA fucking left Earthbound Zero in the dust.
If it were me I would have not cared out of being jaded.
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>>685081441
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>>685121046
its very endearing and quirky but the gameplay isn't too fun and goes on for too long. This is coming from a guy who hates JRPGs and will audibly curse whenever I enter an encounter.
Play it on an emulator with that can speed up gameplay.
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Whats the best version/translation of Zero, assuming I dont have nintendo online?
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Anyone else browse this site? The owner became a shovelware developer.
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never played the games, but it's nice to see anon take pictures for his anon friends :)
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>>685043405
>>685043494
Paula sex
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>>685121046
Fun? Fuck no. Endearing? You beat up a homemade robot and the entire police force in the first 20 minutes so you tell me.
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>>685127238
If Shifty Fridge is fake it's Sadfish all over again for me
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>>685126670
Kill yourself pedo freak
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>>685045087
>was it also painted to look that way or was it a different material other than clay?
It looks like it might be resin.
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>>685126670
do you think they also modeled her bloomers?
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>>685128686
I would hope so!
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>>685042192
>exhibition of closed files you can't open
>you can't even take pictures of that
the most japanese thing in the world
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>>685118992
heh
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>>685046485
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6m48RS90u4
this thread was a sanctuary, thanks OP
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>rewatch that cutscene from when you get all the melodies in 1
>cry
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>>685118203
>>685118401
>>685118483
>>685121434
The easiest solution is to get like three random Japanese guys on twitter who went to the event to confirm or deny it
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>>685118203
>Starnigger.net eceleb rushing to claim clout
Many such cases
Fuck you spoiled retards
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>>685118203
the concept of having the ability to talk enemies out of fighting in the design document is pretty suspicious tbqh
not saying it's all fake but still
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>>685120491
*grateful dead
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>>685042685
I can't believe Toby is such a fraud that he even ripped of the Mother 2 design docs
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>>685118203
>accuses OP of spreading misinformation
>fag makes video of unused and developer content
>the info OP wrote matches up with what he put in the video:
>>685042192
>>685042685
who is in the wrong now?
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>>685118203
I don't understand. Why is he talking about this at all if he believes the info to be false? Even if OP is lying why isn't he making a video going over the information himself?
Who do we trust?
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>>685135096

>>685121434
>>685118483
>>685132647
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>>685042897
A lot of doujin (Japanese indie) RPGs are directly influenced by Earthbound.

And there's quite a few non-doujin Japanese Earthbound inspired games out there that never made it to the West, like pic related (probably the first "Earthbound/Mother series" inspired game).
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>>685136023
So basically, it's a seething PooTuber?
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>>685118203
I'm going this week and am fluent in Jap, I'll make a thread telling you guys if OP is a liar
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Can't believe I missed this entire thread. I should glue myself to my computer.
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>>685138456
You missed the schizo so probably for the best
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>>685138250
A big tell will be if the octobot's leg is still broken. If you can please get some pictures of the texts.
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>>685121120
For you
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>>685043353
Seconding this
Its atmosphere is unparalleled
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>>685121568
Something funky is going on with this map. There's like 4 Giant Steps in this image.
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>>685043353
>>685055616
>>685140128
Sell me on it. Why should I play it?
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>>685137962
I've never played the game itself but I've loved this tune for years.
https://youtu.be/5iPgH_rgVjY
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>>685140451
because it's a better and more insightful experience than scrolling through this website
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>>685118203
>No you have to come to me for information on the 30 year old game for fucks sake I have cars to feed and reddit gold to give!
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>>685140451
It's an Earthbound clone that's actually an Earthbound clone
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>>685051665
They are organic silicon organism.
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>>685043486
i get that you're thinking of undertale but making friends with your enemies was in other games before mother.
see megami tensei
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>>685142742
Which artfag drew me and when?
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>>685063448
Each of the games is its own thing. Mother 3 makes a few references to the first two and mother 2 does the same for 1, but they are nothing more than a few homages. I'd just go with earthbound first. It fixes a lot of the jank from the first game and has the most charming aesthetic. The third game is still good I just think they sacrificed some of the charm of the first two games by going with a more serious story.
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its good they cut alot of this out becuse they knew it would not be fully fleshed out (due to file size, time, money constraints) instead of throwing a hodgepodge of confusing nonsense in the final product
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>>685118203
What a dumb shit. An anon talking about the PUBLIC event doesnt invalidate the video he made (Which is good btw). Besides, details were already being out in other places anyways.



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