NAI is cool.I enjoy it.
>no repliesyou fell off op
>>685296253*cracks neck*Another zoomer purged
Personally? More of a thigh guy myself
what is nai? that just looks like vincent
>>685296672Well then I reckon that means NAI succeeded in its task
shellder
>>685296784but what is nai is what im asking
>>685296212I enjoy it too. Only $25 a month.
>>685296672The thread was made by a /vg/ and /g/ troll who spends his entire day griefing multiple threads because he has a vendetta against Novel AI, an AI service.He was someone on the team who got fired, so he's having an eternal meltdown over it.
what a jfif file
>>685296847NovelAI.Pretty much the only AI model that doesn't censor.
Some of these images are made in DALL-E and not NAI, why are they being posted for. You guys have a general already.
>>685296930refill your prescription
Reminder
Stick to your containment thread faggots
>>685296930You're mistaken, I'm the amano guy.I don't know the rest of your story, I only know who I am not.You might not even be saying this in good faith. I dunno. I'm that new to it! Toodly doodly doo.
>>685297032Leave. This thread is being run by paid shills.
>>685296847tldr its an AI service. But this thread is a false flag by an autist from /vg/ who has a hateboner for said service, and is spamming this shit everywhere and then blaming his own threads on a non-existent "cabal" of shills. do yourself a favor and just report this thread
>>685297095I've been accused of being a shill, knowing that's not true. So it's possible that none exist.>>685297142Again, mistaken.
>>685297142with how much he is instantly deflecting these claims, theyre most likely true so i will chose to believe you
>>685296972>latches like a parasite to every single AI general in 4chan to advertise their products>gets mad when other services are posted in their threadIt's just a taste of your own medicine, shill.
>>685297142I also trust you.
>>685297210lol.So when silence is a losing move, denying is a losing move, and confirming is CERTAINLY a losing move, what do you do exactly?
Best $25 a month I ever spent!!!
>>685297504If you made this in NAI I'd have been able to drag this into NAI and extract the prompt metadata from it!But I could not.
Subscribe to NovelAI, it's so good!!!
This shit isn't videogames you are just having general wars between AI niggers
>>685296212Does NAI come with schizo negatives or did you do them yourself.
>>685297965There's a guy posting gore in the other thread and the janitors aren't dealing with it.No war. lol
>>685298146Can you shut the fuck up already?
>>685298170Sorry, what are you asking?
>>685298170Flux is better.
>>685298447Does Flux censor?
>>685296991Seriously, that guy is right. He's known by a bunch of other names in the different LLM threads. Fillyfucker, claudefag, whinefag to name a few
>>685298356I want to know why these negatives are in the prompt. Extra digits never did jack shit in SD1.5 or SDXL so I'm having a hard time believing it does anything useful in NAI. Same with "extra" and "missing" >>685298447We're talking about negatives here which Flux doesn't even have natively. Last I checked there was a workaround but it made the gen times 3x longer.
>>685298447NovelAI is uncensored and unlimited. It's the SOTA. And it only costs $25 a month instead of being priced per image.
>>685298581Flux has negatives, lying NAIshill.
>>685298581it's a dataset with custom tags, they went out of their way to tag for that stuff (including quality tags)
>>685298581NAI is a custom model which is light years ahead of everything else, so yes those negatives do work but only on NAI
>>685298581Your answers aren't helping me help you.
>>685298706Link your workflow bitch Gimmie
>>685298579I need proof because if this is the "bad faith" thread and the alternative is one with a guy spamming portraits of an off topic faggy oc, gossip, and botched medical gore then I'll still take this one.
>>685298447FLux is not better you piece of shit
>>685298723So It's just in all gens by default? >>685297932This one has them but not>>685298013
>>685298873there are quality tags added automatically which are not baked into the prompt and then there are ones you can manually add as well
>>685298796Lmao he's so assblasted that he was getting ignored that he migrated.
>>685298581Negatives are pretty powerful in NAI, partially because they trained the hell out of it, but I'm personally against overstuffing the negatives field with shit in the v3 models.Personally, all I use are are this in the anime model:>lowres, jpeg artifacts, bad quality, worst quality, watermark, blurry, very displeasingAnd this in the furry model:>{worst quality}, bad, very displeasing, lowres, compression artifactsAnd ONLY adjust/add as needed. Also I am sorry you have to be exposed to the craziness that has been plaguing a variety of threads.
>>685298773>>685298801It is. Just look at this.NAIshills caught lying yet again. Nobody will use your shitty service.
>>685298873no, you can toggle it on and off.>>685298784do what you want man, he's most likely the one trying to derail over there too, it's his MO. Go ask vg/aicg/ about fillyfucker if you don't believe me.
>>685296212This isn't video games.
>>685299056>>685298940>>685298860>>685298796You fell for it you dumb shit.
>>685299017Sheesh, already I guess it's one of those "go to bed early" episodes
>>685298967>but I'm personally against overstuffing the negatives field with shitYeah that sounds more in line with my experience with other SD models. Going overboard on negatives rarely seems to help things.
>>685299017He did nothing wrong.
>>685299067the AIfags are utterly deranged and this thread is essentially one dramawhore making a thread out of spitet.slopper
>>685299142yeah, unfortunately there's not much you can do except ignore him and wait out his manic episode or hope he goes back to his favorite target, /aids/
>>685299273so why are you not keeping this to /vg/ then
>>685299271Could you people please get even the most obvious details right? Janitors asleep, some cunt posting gore, made a new thread to avoid seeing goreIf you want action taken, then... ditto.Fucking DITTO mi amigo.
>>685297617not if he changed it to jpg
This thread is made by a schizo who shits up multiple threads a day.https://rentry.org/AntiwhineMkII
>>685299675the amano guy is indeed a schizo and a shill
>>685299675why are you browsing mlp
>>685299672That was an especially boring reply.You could've done way better.>>685299675What is one meant to glean from this vertical screencap of tabs? Reminds me of when people would post TILTED photos of monitors back when Smash characters were released. >Whoaaa it's a bad quality photo of a monitor>holy shit bros, Rayman is SO IN
>>685299840>My screencap is evidence of what I'm talking about>You'll just have to take my word on it tho
>>685299909>What is one meant to glean from this vertical screencap of tabs?That NAI shills monitor every AI general.
>>685299909He posted that in /aids/ to brag about how many threads he shits up a day a few months ago.
>>685299985It's not my fault you have pussy eyes.
>>685300024How though? You could just post that image and claim it means anything about those threads. Right?
lmao he actually got mass deletedguess he's gonna have to send the peckertoucher another dick pic
What the fuck is an NAI?All I gather is some rabied schizo hates it.
>>685300369Yep.
>>685300369Google exists.https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=what+is+novelai
>>685300460All NAI gave me was a brokerage law firm. Thanks anon.
>>685300548No problem.
>>685300369It's the best AI service. It's only $25 a month!It gets unfairly called out of jealousy by poor people.
>>685300652Not organic enough, schizo-kun.
>>685300865Why wouldn't it be organic in the NAI thread?
>>685301186A newfag made a pointless thread and a falseflagger entered behind him shitting it up.
>>685301260Are you going to subscribe to NAI?
time to close the tab
>>685301260The point, as stated plainly 7 or 8 times, was to create a refuge from the gorespam in the other thread. And it worked.Typically spammers like that only concentrate their efforts in 1 thread at a time. It frustrates them if you do exactly this.
>>685301260it's the same NAI schizo from /vg/ lol
>everyone I don't like is the schizo
you can tell it is truly from how continuously defensive he gets in his shill threads :(
NAI is so fucking good
It's okay I guess.
I wanna fuck angel girls so bad bros...
>>685301876I like making vore with the furry model...and, you know, normal porn.
>>685296394*cracks itself*Another boomer kills itself.is very effectiveboomer fainted.
>>685301954It's really good with Roll for some reason.I cannot post any of my Roll images here though..
>>685301876This is what it gave me when I loaded it in. Sweet fucking JesusWhat settings did you use?
>>685302458I want to make this dog president.
>>685302349>It's really good with Roll for some reason.Theres like 1.6k images of her on Danbooru, so that's not surprising
>>685302458He's not the original genner of that image. A regular from /aids/ made that based off a character I came up with. I believe we were messing around with fake artist tags at the time to cope with the lack of real artist tags in Furry V3.I'm not exactly sure what settings the guy used to make Horror Traci, I'd have to ask him.
>>685302349The girl from Megaman? I should give her a go soon. Always thought she was cute even though I wasn't big on Megaman. NAI is also good at making reaction images. Or maybe I just got lucky.
Fuck you, schizo. See? Unlike your ass, I'm not banned. Unlike your dual device using ass.
>>685302805
>>685302805meds
>>685302805Seek Jesus
>>685302349Not bad at all
I'm subscribed to NAI
>>685302960
>>685302969Good for you. Now post some images, schizo.
>>685302458I can see in the metadata I used two vibe images, but I don't remember which ones, sorry.Probably one was something from e621 with the "detailed fur" tag. The other might have been a local AI gen I stole from the /trash/ thread.
The lamia girls are more passable than I was expectingMore experimenting needs to be done
>>685303319How long have you been using it? Just tonight, or..
>>685303319I think the furry model does stuff like lamias, taurs and other humanoids better. It's trickier to get anime out of it without vibes or fake artist names though.
>>685303013
>>685303319>>685303609If you ever hit a roadblock with just prompts, the trick is to get a good vibe transfer. With the right reference image you will skyrocket to where you were headed.
>>685303905Yeah. And its pretty fun to experiment with in general.
>>685304309... You can get NEGATIVE values with the sliders??
>>685304528Yeah, it's a semi-hidden feature (though it's recorded in the documentation IIRC.)
>>685304528Yup, try using a shit vibe and negative valuing it. It somehow makes the images better. This shit black magic, yo.
>>685304528here's one to start you out
>>685304528You have to enter the "-" manually, but yeah. Shitty images will increase quality, empty images will increase chaos, busy images with simplify, purple images will shift things yellow/orange, etc.This stupid stick figure one, for instance, increases saturation, detail, thickness, and makes the character fill more of the image.
you guys are using the auto gen extension right? you can gen like 5k images a day if left on.
>>685305512no one is gonna buy it
>>685305791its free, dont know what your talking about actually
>>685305512Does it have a name? I'm using an auto-clicker. It works, but I don't like it.
>>685306213im checking my history, give me a moment, i remember it being kinda abitch to look up.
>>685305815HOT>>685303837>>685305556cuties>>6853043097 vibe transfers is a lot..
>>685304659Wtf I'll need to remember this should I ever resub to NAI.
>>685305512>>685305791>>685306213https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/480952-novelai-%E8%BF%9E%E7%82%B9%E5%99%A8heres it. I remember that tag line, "to free your hands">So download the extension>Login to Nai and click on the generate image option to take you to the generation page>Then very important press Refresh button to refresh webpage>Now you will see the Run button appear on bottom left cornerThats it, find the prompt you like and let it auto gen all night. Press Download on the history pull out tab in Nai3 and download everything at once. Depending on your computer the download button will stop working after a certain amount is reached. Mine stops working around 1500 and trust me you dont wanna be saving 1500 images manually. Takes hours. Nai 3 will also randomly throttle you, and block image generation for a couple of minutes to sometimes a few hours. GEnerations using points still go through. Went from 500 images a day to 5000. And it doesnt take my full attention
>>685306819bottom RIGHT corner***
>>685307061https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1723440718827984.webm
>>685306819what's the point of spamming 1000's of gens for one prompt
>>685307206so you can spam them on /v/ of course
>>685307206Is this a trick question? Have you ever done this before?It's a pure numbers game. Winnow the various imperfections down to the slimmest margin possible. A select few can be used as vibe transfers for future endeavors. In the end, it's still faster than drafting things yourself. And if you have any artistic skill yourself you have this wealth of compositions where you can tell what would work and what wouldn't.
used to make a lot of slop for genshitters for easy mass yous back in the day
>>685307206Youll get a couple that are 10/10 and exactly what your looking for when the RNG gods all align and why not gen when the night is essentially lost time you paid for or any time your away from the computer. You can have it on as well as your typing your prompt so you attention is focus on just adjusting the prompt while you see the results pop out automatically. Also i used to be stuck all day on the generation screen for hours just clicking generate. So this gives you your precious time doing that back
>>685307382Right, but there's a point where the time to sift through that pile could be better spent trying something else. I haven't used NAI but in my experience with AutismMix most gens will be minor variations of the same pose (especially if a LoRA doesn't play nice) or have some blatant inaccuracies, it's not worth the effort. In my experience I usually just gen to get a few good candidates then do touchups with a PhotoShop+Inpainting workflow.
>>685307708>Right, but there's a point where the time to sift through that pile could be better spent trying something elseIf your efforts are artistic in nature, no. Not really. There's not a better use of time.
>>685307708With nai you dont have to feel bad about your sub expiring because you will have 10,000s of images you havent seen to sort through. So you wont be pressured to sub and keeps generating since your sitting on a fat stack. I cant think of a good reason where youd rather settle for 500 images over the course of a day over 5000.
>>685307484Uh.. I don't think you can post this stuff. Might want to stop before some fag reports you.
>>685308063point taken , thanks
>>685307976>I cant think of a good reason where youd rather settle for 500 images over the course of a day over 5000I wanna beat my meat now
>>685306256>7 vibe transfers is a lot..I average about six. 3-4 positive images to get down a look, usually 2 negatives to control different aspects (usually background chaos, detail, color and/or clarity).
>>685304309You seem knowledgeable. When do you decide to change the slider for Information Extracted/Reference Strength? What ranges are good for what?
>>685308442That's a big question that I'd be surprised if he could answer in detail.Thankfully there's only the two sliders.Slide them around and try literally every combination (within reason) and get your own feel for them.I've done thousands of gens and I'm still not sure how to word the difference between them.
>>685296930i belieb itt. used be a regular
>>685308159Can you see if your method can get JaehtheBird's style?
>>685308442For information extraction, it can depend on what you're aiming to extract. If you just want to pull style/aesthetics, I'd recommend 0.05-0.1 information extraction at most. Even 1.0 can extract a ton of character information, which may not be your goal. If you ARE trying to extract character information, I'd mess around with 0.2-0.6.For reference strength, you apparently want to keep things at or below a TOTAL of 1.0 (not counting negative vibes?). Higher can still be okay but can get fucky after too much.Basically information extraction is more for traits; reference strength is more for style.>>685308605It isn't really good for copying styles completely, moreso pulling things in directions for new consistent styles, but sure lemme check this out.
>>685304960This anon is right. There's a measurable effect in doing this shit.I went looking in my 'Frightful' folder for an image that was particularly chaotic and decided upon this one. It works wonders.Albeit not in the way I was expecting. It did make the images better, but it didn't simplify anything. I'll have to do a lot mor experiments.
>>685309412Wait how'd you make these? That dude spectator on the left came out clean.
>consolewars but for slopdo AIniggers really?
>>685309629Yes. We AIniggers really.And what are you gonna do about it *bitch*?
>>685308802I'd appreciate the effort. Assuming it isn't any trouble anyway.
>>685308605Close as I'm getting at the moment. Doesn't really seem to like these images I'm feeding it. Hard proportions to work with lmao. I tend to pair vibes with fake artist names (which for some reason work pretty well), but don't seem to have a mix that captures that look well enough. Hrmm..
>>685307481The problem I have with genshin characters is that their designs feature a lot of little symbols and motifs that are tricky to inpaint.
>>685309835Fair enough. Jaeh has a very interesting style to put it lightly. I do appreciate the effort for trying. Good luck in your endeavors to wrangle the furry version.
>>685309629Panda wars
>>685310427Pandas are stupid and disgusting.
>>685309629It's what happens when one of the AI companies is born here and gets the idea of doing marketing in the threads.
>>685310768Nobody is doing that, schizo.
>>685310653They're massively inbred, it isn't their fault!
how's this shit do when it comes to the more uncommon pokemon? like if i wanted to gen a pic of, say, galvantula?
>>685311182I will not permit you to generate images of Galvantula.
>>685311182This little shit popped out. Apparently it's nervous judging by the two sweat drops on it that generated unprompted. The AI must be aware of what the purpose of this specific generation is about.
>>685311182Usually if it has over 200 images on e621, it might be able to pull it off.The issue I'm seeing though is that while that pokemon has 215 images, a lot of it is entirely off-model weird OC shit. Vibe transfer might get things closer. Not sure.
>>685311480>>685311486hmm, alright. i guess i'm gonna have to wait a while longer then.thanks anons.
>>685311564Here's a last one for good measure.
>>685311486Yeah. It *can* do stuff with less images, but ~200 or so is when it can start doing it with reasonable consistency. Penny here, for example, I think had around a hundred or so images when the v3 model trained, and it can do her alright, or at least it *can* get her hair right without further hair-related prompts.
>>685312258Similar thing with Roll
>>685312882
>ai is popular with talentless losers and cumbrains going nowhere because it lets them get a generic taste of that creative spark non-subhumans can exercise at will>they even larp as having a "workflow" and pretend they're engaging in a genuine creative pursuit when children tracing over pictures literally have more agency>they pay for access to thislolyou are a parody of a human being, a living memereply if you musti only came here to laugh at you
>>685313313
>>685307206On other webui's you could use wildcards to substitute specific words in your prompt from a list of alternative words. This allows you to have dozens/hundreds of different prompts without changing anything yourself. I like doing it for things like locations/characters so each image is something new. No clue why the fuck you would ever do it for the exact same prompt. I'm hoping that anon was using whatever NAI has for wildcards. (If it has them)
>>685314009The wildcard description is identical to something I was trying out, hoping it would have.I wanted the pose to vary from gen to gen so I put in '(walking/standing/riding/kneeling),' hoping it would work, and as I recall it didn't. So I would love if there's some way to plug that in there.
>>685296212It still doesn't do text adventures as well as Summer Dragon from what I've checked. I miss the freeform, kind of random, occasionally slightly lewd without prompted feeling of that AI.
>>685314260yeah NAI's textgen is literally years (plural) behind at this point. completely unusable.
>>685314220A google search shows me a novelai wildcard extension for chrome that might work. I don't use either chrome or NAI so I can't test it myself. No clue why they don't have something like that built in by now.
>>685314320They're currently finetuning Llama 70B right now, according to their news bulletin.
>>685314346Alternatively https://github.com/KohakuBlueleaf/Kohaku-NAI
>>685313313>photography isn't art. you're just taking a picture takes zero effort and skill.>digital drawings are not art, it has to be made with actual tools and actual human hands on a real medium. you rely on electronic tools to make up for your lack of skill.>music that is made with fake instruments is fake music. listening to recorded music is subhuman btw, real musicians perform live so audience can actually *get* it.>if any kind of reference is used, you aren't a creative, you're a copycat and bad.>you need to pay royalties if using any kind of existing IP AND have their expressed permission to write about it, draw it, or remix it. doesn't matter if they're your favorite whoxitter artist's OC or a multibillionaire company. real artists respect other artists no matter who or what they are.>art ISNT subjective, its 100% objective. no one cares if it makes you feel any emotions or invokes any thoughts or reminds you of anything, that doesn't mean its art. a dead animal or free porn online makes you feel things, they are not art. art must be paid for to be real art. if it can be bought but you got it for free, you're a pirate that opposes struggling artists.>if the person didn't go to school for art/music, they're a faker. thats why a banana taped to the wall, or a woman masturbating into a can of cheerios is art - the people who are properly educated know what real art looks like.glad you're laughing, you're in good company. we're all just larping here together on a anime weeb website and having a good time shooting the shit
>>685312258Ooooh, you can gen this girl? Very nice. I've got to definitely try her out.
>>685314545>he typed all this dishonest false dichotomy horseshit out just to signal he's living in denialtremendous copeid pity you but you're almost certainly a mentally ill brownoid
>this makes the AIjeet shit himself in fear
>>685314610You should try finding a legitimate creative pursuit instead of wasting your life with this shit.,
>>685315227Says the man wasting his life shitting up a thread.
>>685315227seethepost your work
People who hate AI should be labelled as terrorists and killed.
>>685315436Why would I sell what I generate?
>>685315227I agree. AI shit and video games are such a waste of fucking time. All this juman potential wasted on "hobbies" so they dont have to self improve. Glad DEI and companies using AI is finally killing the industry so people can go back to working or at least buying a sketchbook. Maybe finally learn to read a book.
>>685315496>juman
>>685315594>fasleflaggingWork on your spelling.
>>685315649We can't all be phoneposters like you, Ranjeet. Now go back to scooping up cow feces.
>>685315695That the best you can do?
>>685315769>That theWork on your grammar Rajeesh
>>685315829Work on your life, schizo-kun. Shitting up a thread can't be healthy for your long-term mental health. Newsflash, kiddo. Nobody gives a shit about your vendetta against "AI".
>>685315594>Brownoid subhuman monkeys should be sent to camps and exterminatedThat will never happen to the perfect slave class for the elite. You and others on the other hand, who seek to act and speak against their interests must be dealt with swiftly and severely.
>>685315896I'm not "shitting up" anything, I'm just reminding you of your station in life. Maybe don't make off topic threads peddling your garbage, street shitter.Also - newsflash: nobody likes your AIslop and thinks that it's an embarrassmentand a waste of time and resources.
>>685316005Keep on telling yourself that, schizo-kun. May you find happiness one day.
>>685316051>everyone who doesn't eat up my slop is... le schitzo!!! Do you shitskins have a real argument as to why other people should suffer your slop?
>>685316141I love you too, bro.
>>685316141Nobody forced you to open the thread.
Amano AI thread?
>>685316310>I accept your concessionOh, I see.
>>685316310Why don't you report it to the mods for being off-topic, instead of throwing a tantrum?
>>685316365Why don't you stay in your containment thread instead of shitting up the thread?
>>685316503Where, pray tell, would that be, schizo-kun?
>>685316582So there isn't a containment thread?
>>685316389plappable
>>685315594>video games are artYep, just as much as AI is art LMAO. Ah yeah, getting the speed run record on Mario 64 is such art, what an expression of humanity as a whole and its struggles and morality. Nah, you fucking suck at anything meaningiful and dont understand true expression. You wasted a bunch of time getting good at a children's game. So you cling to your electronic toys as a coping mechanism because you have no actual skills. Thats all they are, just games. You can argue the concept artists and character artists etc are making art, sure. But everyone else involved, and the players especially, contribute nothing to creativity and are just wasting their life away. No better than generating a bunch of stolen art. All to avoid reading a book with actual historic significance, or a fucking brush, just so you can play out your school shooter dreams without reckoning with how bad of a person and terrible human you are.Btw can you do anything othet than project your own race onto others? I don't care if you're an Indian man or not, holding hands with your "bros" is 100% gay. But you should be better than this, go to /lit/ or /ic/ and be more than some game addicted manchild>>685315596What, don't you guys have phones?
>>685316790>>685316878dis kino
>>685317014thanks! but it's all Bing AI lol
>>685296212>>685296593>>685296702Nice
>>685317171That is for Dall-E. This thread is for NAI. Didn't your mother teach you how to tell an apple from an orange?
>>685317272All AIslop looks the same to us whites, now go back.
>>685317340Make me, bitch. You have no power.
>>685317272>This thread is for NAIUh oh, you should tell that to this guy here >>685317118 he's not following the rules of the street shitter council!
>>685317510>wahhhhhhhh I'm a baby ass biiiiiiiiiitchstfu
>>685316790Black cat could be the next Freya
>>685318237
>>685318595I want my Black Cat gf in Final Fantasy so bad.I know she would be mega popular. Green eyes, long black hair. Super mega neko nadeshiko.
