ITT: We laugh at the snoozefest that is The War Within.
What's stopping Microsoft from stepping into Blizzard and firing most of their employees
>>686581075Hasn't Microsoft already axed a ton of Blizzard employees already?
>>686580910ITT: we post how KINO TWW is
>>686581447Tonally this shot is so bizarre. It was 100% shoved in there by a footfag with the hots for that garbage character.
>>686581542learn to appreciate the good things in life
>>686581161Looks like they haven't fired enough with WoW: The Girl Boss expansion
>>686582020They probably only fired the competent coders, designers and artists.
>>686581447>>686581542The footshot 3 seconds before she pointlessly kills Khadgar was worse.
>>686582285lel what?
why is blizzard uploading cutscenes on youtube if the game wasn't launched yet?
>>686582397>if the game wasn't launched yetThe fuck are you smoking?I've got friends playing the expansion right now
>>686582397The game is out in early access and available to retards who paid 90 dollars for it.
>>686582397>>686582526early access is live. "official" launch is in 2 days
>>686582581brokie
>>686580910>take yet another beloved and well-established (male) character from Warcraft history>take yet ANOTHER big evil elf mommy>completely and utterly defeat said beloved (male) character without any effort because of reasons>proceed to delete beloved characterDamn fellas, Battle for Azeroth 2 looking good right there!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzLWovRyp5YBonus point: upload spoiler cutscene to main channel before official release date
>>686582360Just going to copypaste what I posted in an older thread.This scene is so fucking retarded it's unreal.>Xal'atath says she wants to use Dalaran's power for nefarious plan>dark heart does some bullshit>Khadgar knows about the bullshit, goes to fight anyway>Khadgar gets downed in 1 second (atiesh breaks like a twig, lmao)>Is she going to steal Khadgar and the citadel away with some teleport?>kills him and blows up the city>also there's an egregious footshot that is a complete tonal mismatchWas this scene just made out of spite? Xal'atath is supposed to be this hot, corrupting, fun, underhanded, opportunistic villain. On top of this, Metzen has already said that Xal'atath will feature throughout the trilogy. So if you like Khadgar, you don't get to avenge him, and if you like the hot elf, it's basically a "sylvanas warbringers" situation, where it just makes her look like a huge cunt.
>>686582285>>686582973>>686583014khadgar isn't dead thoughever
>>686583142That doesn't make it any better though.
>>686583201how so? no body = no death. whatever xalatath casted here >>686582973 wasnt deadly, otherwise why would she stand in it as well?
>>686583310If he's not dead then he, probably the most powerful mage currently alive, is being kept hostage and possibly tortured by a literal who scene girl blue elf. Yeah, that's not much better.
>>686583483he's gonna come back as an ethereal or something
>>686582793Clockwork cumchugger drone reply.
Better than legion. Loved by every streamer. Not even out yet for the poorfags
>>686580910classic andies really cant stand when retail gets more attention huh. sad life
>>686583142>>6865832011. Khadgar still goes down like a bitch.2. The scene is framed as Xal'atath killing Khadgar for shock value.If they want Khadgar to lose and get taken out of the story, fair enough. But what should happen is: Xal'atath waves/gestures with the dark heart, indicating that the artifact is protecting her, and not that she's an invincible girlboss. When the void sphere is expanding, instead of saying "Goodbye, guardian." which indicates that she intends to kill Khadgar, she can say something about "finding a better use for him too". Alleria would still think that Khadgar is dead, until Xal'atath decides to reveal otherwise, and the "stakes" are still raised.
>>686582973No way is Khadgar deadHe'll either come back as a raid boss, or as a last-patch deus ex machina to get somebody out of trouble
>>686584076Wowie zowie what a steal.How can I afford NOT to buy this disgusting slop?!
>>686584304>If they want Khadgar to lose and get taken out of the story, fair enoughHere's the thing thoughThe Blizzard writers think they're geniuses, or rather that their audience is retarded, and can't see the obvious misdirect of his "death"They think that our minds will just be absolutely blown when Khadgar comes "back to life" in a later patch
>>686581542this it's very creepy and problematic.....
The only people hating it from what i have seen are ultra rightoids that getth triggered at the sight of a woman
>>686581447
>>686584076poor>>686584304khadgar hasn't done shit since wc2 except make portals and teleport people around
>>686583142>>686583310Who cares if he survived or died.He went like a bitch on his fours like a shrievellng dog.
>>686585431>wentnot dead
What's the point of leveling up and levels anymore when people can max out at least a dozen characters in no time the moment the expansion is out?
>>686586227because leveling once is fineredoing the same content at the same pace is retarded design, and im glad it changedwith warbands you even have a 5% account wide buff for every maxed out char for a total of 25%
>tfw you didnt buy early access for $90
>>686586391So then have the first time you level up take a decent amount of time. You know, longer than a couple of hours. Something more like a few days. Only after that should you be able to breeze through leveling like it's nothing.
>>686586496Uhhh, sweat, what are you, poor? That's only like a few hours of work! Consume the product, alright?
So when is Anduin marrying the crippled half elf nigress?
>>686580910Is it just me, or is there no hype whatsoever about this new expansion? View on Twitch are weak, although no doubt will be artificially inflated with drops. The official cinematic has low views and is heavily disliked. My friends prefer to play new Path of Exile league. Just not really feeling it.
>>686586601that's how it is now. it can take you a good amount of hours if you dont rush
>>686587827There's just nothing interesting in this expansion. It's pretty much Dragonflight 2.0 with an even lamer villain and the marketing for it is an absolute blunder. Nobody gives a flying fuck about blue elf girl #351346146.
>>686580910>literal who black orc that speaks softly and gentle lectures anduin through the storyGreat game.
>>686588753She also helps him regain his connection with the Light.
>game so dead and forgotten that nobody wants to talk about itlmao
>>686588753whats wrong with that
>>686589308i.e. his peenus weenus impotence gets cured by blackie for interracial propagandameanwhile Alleria constantly tries to shoot 1 arrow at Xal'Atits and fails miserably every single time. Villainess also shrugs off her bow with a wave of her hand like it's nothing.Yet this protagonist keeps repeatedly trying as if anything she does will make a dent against the villain, despite its superiority + it's targetting the literal Titansmeanwhile, something about bugs having a queen and rebelling against her because she's supposedly evil or something, despite pushing for nerubian superiority.
Anduin should have married Light Hitler YrelWe know he has a thing for draenei women
>>686591076>propagandabut they fear wm bf shit. it's always the opposite
>>686587827>>686588053>launch hype ruined by early access cashgrab>girlboss bullshit everywhere>no option to side with the villain in an expansion called "The War Within">Metzen attempts to wash his hands of the xpac 2 days before it goes liveWoW doesn't need to die like this, but the devs are just a bunch of greedy, politcal, anti-artists.
>>686587827wow is dead
>>686591182Anduin is a non-character, a whiny brat crying for mommy who's now constantly the sympathetic ear of his allies who would rather have someone competent while they have adventures and sex.
>>686591571Yeah, that's why he should have married Yrel because her hyper zealous jihadist mindset is more interesting than DUDE OLD GODS (AGAIN) LMAO
>>686591261>Metzen attempts to wash his hands of the xpac 2 days before it goes liveI wanna read about this, got a link?
>>686582973>>686584451>>686583142sylvanus was extremely forced and khadgar has been an MCU redditor for several years now, this is genuinely fine. frankly the only thing i can imagine improving this was having her gently step on his cock before killing him
>>686580910I can't laugh. I'm already asleep.
>>686583142He should be, so he could get out of this bad game
>Anduin - "the light WILL RETVRN...even if someone else carries that torch..">(camera pans over to Faerin Lothar "The Lamplighter" and resident magic black woman who is already a pro with the lightThey are going to make her the Queen of Stormwind aren't they?
>>686592618Yes, as well as the champion of humanity
>>686592618You better believe it. It won't be Yrel or Valeera or some random hot dwarf that Anduin is into, nope. It's gonna be the half elf crippled nigress.
>>686592864dattebayo!
>>686591654also>massive draenei boobs>cute russian accent>tail to grab while thrusting>by the light>goatsex
>>686580910>imagine two decades playing this shitnever disappoint blizzdrones kek
>>686593163man of culture right here
https://x.com/Grummz/status/1827355695265853715DEAD GAME
>>686593719lmao, pathetic
twitter links should be a bannable offence
>>686580910>>686581447>>686582397>wow is doing so well they've reverted back to advertising on discordbut wait, it gets even better. >>686593719
>>686593719>>686594412It really is for the best if blizzard dies and the warcraft ip is handed to another studio.>>686592241https://youtu.be/SZjsyTS_lfk?t=197"They'd already been doing War Within- or what would become War Within for about 10 months."He then goes on to say the expansion was so far along that he just came up with the idea of tacking it on to the front of Midnight+Last Titan.
>>686595096>we want the groomer audienceWhat did Blizzard mean by this?
>>686587827Dragonflight was the same way, barely ever heard anything about it.Shadowlands did irreversible damage I think. The only people left playing are ultra die hard whales who will never unsub anyways. Anyone with common sense left a long time ago.
>>686595702Thanks, and yeah, he's definitely on the defensive here as "Look, this first chapter has nothing to do with me, please don't judge me until all 3 chapters are done"
wow continues to blast /v/'s gaped anus HAHAHAHAHAH
>>686581161Not nearly enough.
>>686580910im honestly just surprised anyone still plays this>expac came out two days ago>currently only 100k twitch viewers>on a saturday lmao never mind this furfag game is dead as fuck
Still doing better than final troontasy troonteen.
>>686596581Well to be fair it came out in early access and only paypig drones who forked out 90 burgercoins can play.
so if i understood this right, Metzen will lead the charge with .2 or .3 patches or so as well as other two expansions>>686596753based
>>686596803Wouldn't that leave more people to watch the streamers though?
>>686596997Some people aren't watching them so they don't have the story spoiled.
>>686596803that would drive viewership up if anyone cared, but no one does. and ‘early access’ isn’t a thing; the game is out, you either paid for access to it, or you paid for delayed access.
>>686597107Anduin saves the day without the power of love with his new black queen. It's not that much of a plot.
>>686597107who the FUCK plays wow for the story?
>>686580910Im actually enjoying it.
>>686597212You'd be surprised how many mindless drones are actually into Blizzard's terrible, terrible storytelling.
>>686597212Most people play to do quests and level. I knew a guy who never did dungeons or raids.
>>686587827The have split up what is supposed to be 1 expanion into 3 parts.
>>686597871Yea and Metzen already confirmed that The War Within's ending will be unsatisfying garbage.
>>686598064It's a hook. Please understand that blizzard have been trying to get yearly expansions as a thing since warlords of draenor.
double the price, half the contentyou thought they couldn't stoop lower but here we are
>>686598064>The next expansion will be the one that fixes everything trust meA tale as old as time
>>686597212who do you think s o y jaks over all the shitty marvelslop cinematics
>>686598543>double the price, half the contentisn't it one thirdsince it's gonna be three "expansions" that make up about one expansion
>>686598543>double the price, half the contentMy semi-casual friend with a full time job already has two max level characters and is working on a thirdThey couldn't even pad out the grind with this shitAt this rate he's gonna be done before the "real" release dateAnd they fucked up dungeon level scaling so that a level 70 does 90% of the damage when grouped with 78+
>>686599675>And they fucked up dungeon level scaling so that a level 70 does 90% of the damage when grouped with 78+Fucking lel, Blizzard can never seem to handle damage scaling properly.
I'm going to give Blizzardrones one last change to corroborate their claims that this screenshot was taken with the lowest settings. Find this area, take a screenshot with the highest settings and post it.
>>686599675It's just like Slopmix, lol lmao20s outdamage 70s in dungeons
>>686600680Blizzard are finally getting good at using negative space.
>>686600680Anon, it was taken at max settings.
>>686599872>>686600907The cynic in me says that they're doing it on purpose and will fix it for the main launch MondayThey are trying to squeeze out a few more FOMO dollars from people who see the exploit and want to use it
So when are they going to pull the emergency lever and make alliance high elves playable?
>>686581075MS let 343 run Halo into the ground and you think they can run an MMO any better?Good luck with that.
>>686601358They spent 2 billion dollars on Minecraft and have done exactly nothing with it since.
>>686584304>>686595702post her big fat butt again
>>686601358>>686601428So what's Microsoft endgame? Just run IPs and franchises into the ground or what?
>>686601680I'm sure microsoft has long term plans and goals for wowo wawa
>>686580910can't we just let wow R.I.P in peace? Let it go man, it's been decades
>>686592252>khadgar has been an MCU redditor for several years nowyeah, I feel absolutely nothing about him dying or not dying
>>686597212
>>686580910It's the second best expansion ever made.
>>686602870He said the line! I'm clapping!
Realistically speaking, how many more xpacs do we think WoW has left in it? What will come next? WoW 2? Can it possibly continue?
>>686597212every time WoW is discussed on this board, endless droves of mongoloids come out of the woodwork to discuss the story
>>686601352if making void elves but without the void shit is their emergency lever the game is already done
>>686603021so far any mmo that dared to challenge it bombed. as long as they find it profitable, they'll keep it running
>>686601680they wanted Activision IPs and DiabloWow is a bonus thats going to keep milking its playerbase harder and harder since no matter what people are going to come back to Classic or retial at this point
>>686603021They still make everquest expacs Based on that forever.Even if they get small and only come out once a year.
>>686603132the game has been done for a long time now, it is the posterboy for the sunken cost fallacy
>>686603021The time for WoW 2 came and went, they are stuck dragging this out for eternity.
Xal'atath is soo fucking hot. She should make out with Alleria
>>686603021wow has>paid expansions>cash shop>sub feeand you think its just going to die? lmao. wow is still extremely profitable. they havent even added a season pass yet
all the evidence points to WoW being bigger than FFXIV, why do they keep trying to shill their game in WoW threads?
>>686603513too late
>>686603637the expansions will be season passes soon
>>686603710every single prediction /v/ has made about wow in the last couple of years has been complete nonsense lmao
>>686603021Do you honestly trust Blizzard of today to make a good MMO.
I feel like the draenei should've had a pass to wipe out the orcs completely considering all the hypocrisy that happened with the demon thing
>>686603513I love this smug cunt so much.
>>686603646You might want to see someone about those voices in your head anon, that's not normal.
>>686601352It's 20 years too late for that.
>>686603637Funny thing is that, although profits are up, player base is down.People playing are paying large amounts to keep playing.I don't play anymore, but most of my fellow guildies bought gold, either through tokens or gold sellers.Then casuals buy the slop from the game store, and buy gold to buy the boosts from raiders.The game became shit a long time ago, and while Blizzard certainly is to blame for most of it, the community is also to blame.WoW's soul is completely gone, even on Classic realms.
>>686580910LOL
>>686604518>buying goldI'll never understand WHY you would ever want to buy gold. You can easily rake in boatloads of gold just by playing casually thanks to professions. You can get a WoW Token monthly that way with ease and thus play the game for free.Are these people genuinely retarded?
>>686603676Has their son, Arator, ever had anything to do in the story? I just remember him being in Honor Hold back in TBC.
>>686604876>Are these people genuinely retarded?Basically people only want to raid or do mythic +, witch as you probably know, can be extremely expensive.So they'd just swipe, get gold and bought consumables from the AH.
>>686604876>You can easily rake in boatloads of gold just by playing casually thanks to professions.lol
>>686604518you can blame the soul disappearing on the community. the community doesnt give a shit about the soul of the game. back when everyone first started, they cared about the game. it was a living world. they had faction identity and pride. people would do things for fun, not for xp/loot/collectables. nowadays the average wow player doesnt talk, doesnt care about the world, doesnt engage in any form of roleplay (including the bare minimum of caring about their faction), and only plays the game for rewards. if something doesnt reward xp/ilvl/another collectable thing to their digital hoard, they wont do it
>>686605285Yes, that's always been the case.
>Lick!How do you respond?
>>686605714ill respond like so:"show me your penis and ill like the void cum out of it"get it?
>>686605714All this art of her and she always looks like trash. Dunno, she's just fundamentally badly designed and can't be made to look appealing.
>>686605714Colossus Smash
the elf bitch does nothing for me, you probably have to have mental issues to be attracted to that character
>>686603021>how many more xpacs do we think WoW has left in it?The only way this game will truly die is when all of the maladapted troons and boomers still playing it expire. It's not finding a new audience at all, it's just extracting maximum resources from the handful of people still willing to tolerate 10+ years of Blizzard shitting down their throats.
>>686606154gonna be a safe horny shilled character for a while too I bet
>>686595714you literally use discord too retard
>>686606586And what makes you say that? Is the idea of people not using that abhorrent grooming service completely alien to you?
Anyone have thoughts on the Hero Talents? Are they fun, or are they just another row of Talents that have been given a fancy UI?
>>686606239eh, honestly every time a new expansion rolls its corpse around a few more drop out. I can see it with my friends who are still hooked on the game,
>>686606986I'm just curious how long it'll take before Blizzard axes the current talent trees and replaces them with something simplified, again.
>>686607174Probably right after the Worldsoul Saga concludes. The next expac they'll say "we've got way too many talents, and that's not fun, so we're trimming things down to make each talent that much more impactful" and it'll be back to Cata style talents.
>>686606986tons of them are incredibly fun and flavorful, like death knights being able to fight mounted while outdoors
>>686607570Is that a permanent thing or just while using an ability like Paladin's Divine Steed?
>>686607658outdoors is permanent. in dungeons its temporary
>>686596550Last time I played wow was during mop. What the fuck am I looking at?
>>686607798>outdoors is permanentThat's pretty neato.
>>686584076Are these people Blizzard employees, bots, or retards? just wondering.
>>686603021I honestly think they could do it another 15-20 years. They still have a fanbase that buys up any slop and they can keep tacking on microtransactions and extra fees for early and earlier access. They can milk the shit out of these people probably until they die.
>Different painting coat >Same trashYou can't deny this.
>>686607947It's a dracthyr player, thus retarded.
>>686608073not really. warbands and delves are gamechangers
why are high elves always the most important characters?
>>686608192>glorified solo scenarios>gamechangerfucking lel, you drones will hype up anything
>>686608192I wasn't asking.
>>686606986>or are they just another row of Talents that have been given a fancy UI?they arent talents. they are passives. you unlock every hero talent in the talent "tree". its closer to getting another artifact weapon than getting 10 more talent points. your spec gets 2 different groups of talents to pick and you can switch between the 2 groups whenever you want (aka, when youre doing a single target fight or aoe fight)
>>68660827611 levels of difficulty with a mage tower like boss and they give heroic raid gear?not even close
>>686608192how are delves different from horrific visionswhat warband stuff is actually new? account wide crap has existed before
>>686608192This. So much this. Not to mention the art team is #back and slaying with the new characters and awesome zones. It's so fun to dragonfly through and the raids and delves are the best. I just bought another epic edition copy for a friend!
>>686608451>what warband stuff is actually new?account wide reps, gear, quest/system progression, many currencies like honor are transferable etc
>>686601442>>686603513>>686603912>>686605714I genuinely think Xal'atath's design is fantastic, but this expansion just isn't it.>half the playerbase simping for her>should just be this shamelessly underhanded opportunist that never fights with her own strength, and instead tries to "cheat" or hide behind others>blizz writers decide "No! She MUST girlboss over Khadgar. He NEEDS to be crawling on the floor in the most pathetic manner possible."Why? I don't think having a character than can just be the sneakiest weasel, and everyone still loves her is at all common. Why have Xal'atath engage in this infantile display of will?
>>686608436>this is what drones think is a gamechangerThis is just embarrassing.
>>686608853delves have vault rows and their own progression systems. and it's an alternative source of gearingso yes, gamechanger
>>686608579>account wide repswhat does this actually unlock? dont reps just give you tabard/mount/mog/toys (that are already account wide)?>gearcan i send my warriors mythic raid weapon to my ret pally alt, or is it yet another "kill a rare, it drops leather chestpiece token [shit ilvl] account bound">quest/system progressionalready been a thing since shadowlands>many currencies like honor are transferable etchow many of those currencies are relevant? can i make 10 characters and send all my crests to my main to get giga geared in 1 week? or is this a feature for altaholics who have niffen fart tokens spread out between 20 characters because they cant pick a main?
If you're hating on the War Within you're hating on Classic Warcraft 1-3. This was how they used to tell stories back then; sorry, your zoomer brain can't handle dialogue and long-form storytelling.
>>686608926>>686608978Blizzard isn't sending their best.
>>686608926how is it a gamechanger when its the same thing as horrific visions? you could solo 5 mask them and get gear from them that maxed out at 5 ilvls below mythic raid gear. its not a "gamechanger", its something that already used to be in the game
>>686608763>I genuinely think Xal'atath's design is fantasticYou might suffer from brain damage.When even fanart can't make her attractive then you know something's wrong.
How is the gaming journalism industry going to survive the massive fallout after they publish the usual 8/10 scores for this sack of trash? No review site has the balls to publish its true score and everyone knows it, they've lost all credibility. Will there be FTC action for how they're deceptively coercing with Blizzard? Because it's illegal to publish fake reviews, and there's no way anyone else is going to rate WoW's worst expansion anything more than a 2/10.
>>686608968>what does this actually unlock? dont reps just give you tabard/mount/mog/toys (that are already account wide)?many profession recipes for example are locked behind rep, so here warbands help a lot>can i send my warriors mythic raid weapon to my ret pally alt, or is it yet another "kill a rare, it drops leather chestpiece token [shit ilvl] account bound"not mythic, but warbound gear drops from whatever content you do. the quality of the item depends on the difficulty level. if you do a mythic raid which drops myth gear, you can get hero warbound gear>>quest/system progression>already been a thing since shadowlandsheh, this nigger forgot covenants>how many of those currencies are relevant? tons. timewarped badges, honor, most currencies that are not tied to player power in current expansion, so you dont funnel shit to your main
>still haven't set up my UI yetpain
Reminder that They got rid of Mid driff just because Chris Metzen's daughter went up to him and asked him why does she have her stomach out and he didn't know what to tell her. Blizzard are cucked devs who grew old.
>>686609382piss easy now to do with the base UI which is basically built in bartender
>>686580910What’s it even about?
>>686609380>many profession recipesdont care, my main has its own relevant professions because im not a retard. i guess this is nice for jews>not mythic, but warbound gear drops from whatever content you dowelfare gear, nice but irrelevant for my main so i really wont care about this feature>heh, this nigger forgot covenantssneedolands tracked your main story quests so you could skip it on alts, and tracked your mains renown so youd get accelerated renown on alts. what have i "forgotten"?>most currencies that are not tied to player poweraka irrelevant shit lol. i guess saving up honor for an alt to instantly get geared will be nicesounds like this feature can be summed up as "alts are easier, doesnt effect mains at all". that doesnt really make me hyped for this expansion. i want something new to happen on my first playthrough, who cares if your 7th alt gears up easier?
it's that time every two years where all my mazed friends are going to be playing nothing but this game for a few months while complaining nonstop about the game then quitting a few weeks later. sweet. They all want me to play too, like every other time.
>>686609945>"alts are easier, doesnt effect mains at all"because they specifically said that they want to avoid a lost ark scenario where you're forced to have a bunch of alts to slave away to funnel shit to your mainthats not good game design. warbands is for alts and collecting stuff because even if youre on a plate character and a cloth piece drops, it gets added to your collection
>>686603930there is nothing wrong voices in your head.
>>686587827I've barely been paying attention. did they say it was going to be a mini-expansion? If so that's pretty anti-hype.
>>686610485no, lol. full fledged expansions with patches released at an accelerated pace
>>686597871>>686587827If they split 1 expansion into 3 then why does it still cost so much?
>>686610275>warbands is for alts and collecting stuff because even if youre on a plate character and a cloth piece drops, it gets added to your collectionCool, I don't give a shit about warbands.
>>686596092Not true, from what I'm seeing. I have one friend out of seven who is that ultra die hard never ever unsubs guy. The rest just buy the expansion and play two months every cycle. Strangely enough they all agree that is sucks, but they do mental gymnastics to justify buying and playing it every time. Weird behavior to see on the outside looking in.
>>686610275ok but the post i original replied to said "warbands and delves are gamechangers". so far warbands really havent changed shit and nobody responded when i said delves are horrific visionsits cool that you can collect cloth on a plate wearer but that really isnt gamechanging. thats a good qol at best
>>686610753but it is. if i have an alchemist and an enchanter, i only need to grind the rep once and i have access to both recipesthat's a gamechanger. oh and there's also an account wide bank
>>686610630>why does it still cost so much?Because retarded paypigs will eat up anything. Just read these threads and you'll find a lot of idiots who bought the 90 dollar "Epic" Edition.
>>686580910I can't be assed to level any more. I hit the second zone and stopped. No idea how anyone can still bother with this crap.
>>686610871I don't think you understand what a "gamechanger" means.
>>686610974i think you have brain cancer
>>686610874I hate the whales encouraging this behavior from blizz
>>686610974yeah, the real "gamechanger" happened years ago when everyone changed games to ff14. everyone else still on wow just coping and can't let go
>>686610871my guild provides flasks and enchants for free so it doesnt effect me in any way lol. ive been blacksmithing+engineering since legionif i wasnt in my guild, that would save me what, 10k for buying an enchant? if you think "free 10k" is a gamechanger you suck at wow
>>686611147playing through endwalker was fun but then we just got more of the slop we were running away from with dawntrail
>>686611223>my guild provides flasks and enchants for freenot everyone has that luxurybut that doesn't even apply to that entirely. if you want to craft an engineering mount or something from a previous expansion you just do it once
>>686611025What's the matter? Upset that people aren't excited for your glorified solo scenarios and easier alts?
>>686611536if you can't see the value in that then you're willfully ignorant or simply retardedinclined to believe that both apply to you
>>686581839Feet is a shit fetish.
>>686611464>if you want to craft an engineering mount or something from a previous expansion you just do it onceuhh yeah? account wide mounts have been a thing since mop? you craft/buy it once and youre done?or are you talking about completing an old quest chain/rep that rewards the recipe for a mount? if every single player suddenly gets an account wide unlock for that recipe, the price of the mount will crash until its barely above the material cost of making it for yourself. in the grand scheme of things, this is just a meaningless race to the bottom
>>686593719>Inclusive GrowthIt's definitely a tumor.
>>686608763>I genuinely think Xal'atath's design is fantasticIt's just a female void elf with a more masculine face and an outfit that tries to be sexy but fails at it because it was done in a safe horny way.
Most badass moment in WoW.
>>686612040you must be into men
>>686582584>early access is live. "official" launch is in 2 days"Early access" is the official launch date, anything else is pay to play later cuckoldry.
>>686608192>warbands and delves are gamechangersYou won't give a shit about these things once they're abandoned when it comes time to hype up next expansion's features.
>>686611708Again, horrific visions. They weren't a gamechanger in BfA and they aren't now under their new name.Couldn't give a flying fuck about leveling & gearing alts and collecting transmogs & mounts.Your mind is legit fried if you seriously believe these are gamechangers.
>>686612169what? they're permanent features. delves got a vault row and they're adding new delves every season
>>686612083this design is anti-sexy. It's embarrassing>we want the coomer dollars without going against the feminist agenda
>>686612040It's such a boring and generic character design that I can't help but wonder if some of these people aren't just shills trying to win over the horny audience, but they're given only the tamest and safest art to work with.
>>686612331Stop being a fag.
>>686612074Would've been the most badass moment in WoW if he completely and utterly vaporized her.
why are all the male characters in WoW being killed off and replaced with women?
>>686587827I think it was Shadowlands and the Jailer lore bullshit that caused all but the most sunk cost fanboy to give up hope. Dragonflight was confirmation that it's beyond saving.
>>686612461no u. Nothing sexy about her. This kind of woman appeals to the dyed hair, tattoos and piercing crowd. You have mental illness>>686612419>I can't help but wonder if some of these people aren't just shills trying to win over the horny audience, but they're given only the tamest and safest art to work with.not as unlikely as you'd expect, wouldn't be the first time
>>686612512then what? expansion just ends?
>>686612661Yes, and that's a good thing!
>>686612738yes, you're retarded
>>686612661Would be nice to have another expansion that ends on a high note. We haven't had that since Legion
>>686607801Known Draenei lover loses his connection to the Light and needs help from a one-armed nigger.
>>686612823You're getting a tad miffed there, pal. May want to take a chill pill and try shilling again when you've calmed down.
>>686597212Everyone, retard.I would never have played WoW if I didn't care about the Warcraft universe, Shadowlands was the last straw for me.
is that velen guy still around? he was cool
This game looks awful and I don't know how anyone still plays it.
>>686596550Noo. Anduin was supposed to be paired with a hot Draenei girl, not this thing.
>>686609239>>686612040How about this big titty eredar priestess? Will this calm you down?
>>686612963yeah, they'll bring him back soon. he was one of the 2 (the other being the arathi emperor) that had a vision of the upcoming light vs void war
>>686584076>petsdont give a shit>toydont give a shit>hs toydont give a shit>tender isn't this literally free in game>game timethe only valid thing on that list and you still have to pay like $20 extra for early access blizzcucks are delusional
>>686608192>warbandsMinor content that should have been added in a simple patch.>delves Renamed Scenarios.
>>686612856Oh shit, yea, this would've been a perfect opportunity to bring back Yrel to help him regain his powers.Blizzard never ceases to disappoint. Why bring back a fan favorite character when you can just shoehorn in a crippled half elf nigress?
>>686613147>Yrelhttps://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/War_between_light_and_shadow
>>686613031See, now this works. The generic void elf bitch? Not a chance.
It's freaking hilarious everything they tried has been a flopScenarios, Island Expeditions, Warfronts, Horrific Visions, Choreghast, Delves
>>686613227>Expansions with the story thought up and created beforehand>Bring characters up mid-story instead of in the beginninglollmao evenHaving Yrel in TWW instead of Midnight is an instant improvement over what Blizzard can think of.
>>686613273You know what would have not been a flop, something that has been proven to be successful in other MMOs that added it? Housing. Yet they refuse to do this one thing.
>>686613227CRASHING THIS VOID INVASIONWITH NO SURVIVORS
>>686613358Haven't they sort of tried that already with Garrisons?
>>686613337metzen joined when TWW was already 10 months in development. it will take a couple of patches to built up to that
>>686613273Because instead of refining it, they completely abandon it after 1 expansion
it's bad how this game has literally no cool characters left. Just thinking back on the cool characters>kael thasdead>illidangay jail>tyriondead>variandead>garroshdead>maraaddead>anduinwhipped cry bitch>uther (I know it's warcraft 3, whatever)dead>arthasdead>gul'dandead>thrallold sad and patheticI don't know who this game is meant to appeal to nowadays but it's clear that I (straight, relatively normal white male) haven't been for a long time.
>>686612083The wow dev team are such insufferable prudes they wouldn't even allow her to have cleavage in case it offends someone. Pathetic
>>686613406you couldn't customize them really, you just picked the best buildings and made money
>>686613020A nigger woman telling people about their power??I've seen this shit bomb already... dejavu in the matrix??
>>686613423He should have scrapped TWW entirely, and come up with his corruption faggotry.Not even Metzen will save this trilogy since he ruined WoW to begin with, it would simply just be slightly better.
>>686613423He did not, he rejoined in 2022. The narrative that he had nothing to do with TWW is pure revisionist damage control so he isn't blamed for the bag of flaming feces that is TWW
>>686613423WoW went to shit while on his watch before retiring. Why are you people pretending he's going to turn this ship around? Blizzard can't even do a story spanning a single expansion without fumbling things, why should I believe they can do an epic trilogy?
>>686613445all those characters you listed as being dead were killed by your favorite "old white chud developers" ;)
>>686613514Not only did they censor it, but the new "art' is genuinely bad. Look at that fucking face. Just look at it. What the actual fuck is this shit? What a disgrace.
>>686613670Respect women by turning them into bowls of fruit chud
>>686613569holy retard post>>686613593he became executive creative director 1 month after DF launched. watch his interviewand TWW is good>>686613630because TWW is a good expansion
>>686613642who are you talking about? I don't care who made the decision regardless, it's not relevant. They killed their own game, I'm just pointing out how they alienated their core playerbase to their detriment and now are left with a small fraction of their players. It's whatever. This game stopped being relevant a long time ago.
>>686613774
>>686613792He rejoined as a creative consultant in 2022. Funny how he forgot to mention that so he can pretend like TWW isn't his fault https://www.wowhead.com/news/chris-metzen-joining-warcraft-leadership-team-as-creative-advisor-330540
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/c/community/general-discussion/171SUCH DEVASTATION
>all the xiv players seething that their latest expansion was a flop while WoW's is a huge success, and shitting up the threadLove to see it.
>>686596550No way this is real, this game really is done.
>>686613792Would it kill Blizzard to hire some GOOD shills? Repeating "TWW is good" like a broken record and trying to push minor features as new and worthwhile content won't sell anyone on the game.
>>686613995Relax, she's just helping to restore his faith in and connection to the light. Nothing romantic was implied.
>>686613273>Scenariosmerged into leveling. back in mop the tech was so far behind that you needed to talk to an npc to get teleported to an instanced version of a leveling zone to do a quest. since then, sharding/instancing tech has advanced. scenarios dont need to exist. the leveling experience seamlessly blends scenarios into normal quests>Warfrontsblizz was retarded and thought this would be the "4th pillar" of wow (other 3 pillars being dungeons, raids, pvp). when players didnt love warfronts as much as raiding, blizz completely scrapped them>Island Expeditions, Horrific Visions, Choreghast, DelvesI would add brawlers guild and mage tower to that list. blizz knows people like that kind of solo-ish content that rewards cosmetics and gear but they can never nail it down
>>686613910>consultantvs>executivelike i said you're retarded
>>686613995It's realhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dazPqiiTU2M
>>686614096Yes I'm sure the former creator of the entire IP had very little influence as a consultant
>>686613976>WoW's is a huge successless people watching it on twitch than DF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrIBXUIavDkDEAD GAME
>>686614159Excuse me while I hurl my guts out.
>>686614349>It's another episode of Asmongold pretends to hate WoW while also accepting a large payment to do a 10hr stream on early access launch day and say nice things about it
>>686613792>because TWW is a good expansionCan you do heroic dungeons yet? Can you do raids yet?
>>686614372Out of all the things I hate about her design the most it's the hair. You want a disabled black woman with one eye, fine. At least give her a normal hairstyle.
>>686614083Thanks for the info, I'm relieved
>>686614049you're repeating that it's bad like a broken record when everyone that plays it says that it's goodstupid fag
>>686614503>>686614083Samefag
>>686614049I don't think they're trying to get anyone new into the game. Instead, they're trying to reassure the people who are bought in that everything is good. They've shifted from expanding their market to reducing a leak of players with the years.They've probably done some sort of analysis that the current kind of person still playing spends equivalent to 5 or more subscriptions in all the little doodads or something. People who think this game will end don't get it. Blizzard looks at it as a simple "every expansion, we will make X guaranteed dollars from the players who never quit and always buy, so as long as the budget for then expansion is less than that, we make a profit". You can see that the game drastically degraded in quality as the player numbers went down, it's clear they are developing the game on a market-analysis core.
>>686613976Your faggot pocket janny just 404'd the 600th XIV thread this month. And another two will take its place, because people actually have things to talk about in XIV.Whomst've is afraid of whomst've?
>>686614561>everyone that plays it says that it's goodMay we I see this praise?
>>686614561It's not good, just look at it with your eyes. Even the graphics have degenerated.
>>686614561>everyone that plays it says that it's goodI take it you haven't actually read any reviews
>>686614561might be related to how anyone who still actually plays WoW has standards so low he would say it's good if the game was just a screen that says>thanks for the money cocksucker>see you next month for the next payment
>>686614685N-NO! THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING! MY GAMECHANGER!!!
>>686614349Wow, 800k to 200k is a massive drop. I hope being Jews and charging for early access was worth it for them.
>>6866146564chan.org/feedback. you can file your complaint there and sign it with your tears
>>686614698>might be related to how anyone who still actually plays WoW has standards so lowThis is the exact argument I made to my friends who tried to sell me on playing dragonflight with them. They kept telling me "it's better than shadowlands", and to me who didn't play it, that means nothing. However I do know the game became shit with the years, so your assurance of "but I swear it's totally good this time" doesn't mean much when I know you played through all of it.
>>686613792>holy retard postYou shouldn't sign your posts like that.
>>686614656>because people actually have things to talk about in XIV.Like what, riveting conversations like "does wanting to fuck lalafells make you a pedo?", or posting your shit game's equivalent of slutmogs?
>>686614934Shadowlands is the video game equivalent of contracting leprosy, so saying Dragonflight is better is a completely meaningless statement. Seriously, Shadowlands lost an absurd amount of players permanently and did irreparable damage to the franchise, the game has been on its death bed since then. You can see the increasingly deranged posts of long-term addicts trying to reassure each other everything is fine and the game is doing 'better than it ever has been'
>>686612961I'm surprised you made it that far. Cata was fucking wretched, MoP was a detour, WoD was literal multiverse dogshit, Legion was low-tier trash with Marvel writing, and BFA took everything interesting, threw it out, and made the story about Slyvanas having an impossibly unpredictable plan that the devs totally knew about.Going into SLs you'd be like a battered housewife with a broken arm, adamant that Blizzard wouldn't hit you again.>>686613020I am surprised that the interracial relationship isn't with a lightforged draenei considering all the dumb signposting they threw up.
>>686615186>You can see the increasingly deranged posts of long-term addicts trying to reassure each other everything is fineThis is extremely obvious to see as an outsider looking in, especially on this board, especially when contrasted with FF14. FF14 has a shit expansion and everyone blasts it. WoW is just "we're so back bros it's so good" every single cycle. The people saying WoW is good now seem lobotomized.
>>6866151862 more weeks!meanwhile WoW completely mogs every other MMO and it's not even close
Woke Within is a massive flop, engagement is way down and the fact that NuBlizzard didn't even shout from the rooftops about how many sales they have is very telling
>>686608763>I genuinely think Xal'atath's design is fantastic, but this expansion just isn't it.I've seen it and I'm 100%sure the concept art for it was drawn up in an AI program with how generic it is.
>>686615415>final fantasy tranny finally outs himselfi knew you were here, was just waiting for you to do itonly trannytrail flopped massively
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/way-way-too-many-bearded-female-earthen/1927680TRANNY GAME
>>686615392>I'm surprised you made it that far.Legion is the only expansion that I played for more than a single month, I either quit shortly after the release of the first raid of an expansion or began playing during the last patch.
>>686614870World of warcraft has>Transgender dragons>Transgender angels>Gay frogs>Gay centaurs>Gay interspecies lovers>They made Mathias Shaw gayWoW literally outtroons XIV
>>686615415Shadowlands inflicted a mortal wound on the game, so many players didn't angrily announce they were leaving, they just gave up in despair and quietly left. Every since then the community has changed into this weird toxic positivity where everyone is reassuring each other that the game is fine, there's nothing to worry about and it's everyone else who is wrong about the game being bad. It feels like being part of QAnon group.
>>686615660hahahahahahahah, there he isman i can't stop laughing. every fucking time with you trannies. what's with your obsession with wow?always you fucking faggots shitting on wow, as if that will make your dead tranny game better KEK
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/new-xpack-all-female-leads/1926290DEAD GAME
>>686615415>"we're so back bros it's so good"I legit think it's marketers because every expansion cycle starts with that no matter how the last expansion was seen.Legion was honestly the healthiest the game had been in more than a decade but you still saw >"we're so back bros it's so good" when BFA launched bringing nothing to the table, arguably making several classes play much worse, and basically being a series of mid-tier to good raids with an absolutely boring, dogshit story.
>>686615629>This post was flagged by the community and is temporarily hidden.
>>686615767He does have a point. No one complained when all the relevant leads were male.
why do incels flock to MMOs as opposed to other game genres?
>>686615960Simple, women shouldn't be in combat, even in fantasy games.
>>686615767out of all the "complaints" i see about TWW, that one is the most valid, and honestly the single one. they overused the old trope of noble man dies so the woman livesbut that's it. even the niggress is beautifully written
I feel at this point the FF14 shitposting is really just deflection because it's hard to look at modern wow and get excited for it. The last time I touched it was BFA and everything in SLs was a warning sign to me.I legit only played WoW as an MMO but Blizzard just consistently delivers this chore simulator with a shitty plot, boring world, and nothing to really separate it from a single player rpg with coop.
>>686616001Actually, incels flock to fanservice gachas so they can have the relationships with females they can't have in real life.
>>686613670what am I not seeing? the old face looks far worse. cleavage is really the only thing missing...
>>686615821There has obviously been some kind of social media influence operation since Dragonflight. Blizzard realized how damaging constant negativity online about the game was and decided to pay a reputation management company to astroturf online discussion. These kind of companies are frequently used for political campaigns, Bernie used 'Revolution Messaging' for his 2016 and 2020 campaigns to astroturf reddit. The giveaway is the identical phrases being used in positive posts 'art team hit it out of the park' 'game is the best it has ever been'
>>686615592I haven't played final fantasy since endwalkers and I didn't play it much. I used to play wow too. I skipped out on the newest ff14 because it seemed boring thematically and I'm not in love with the game (like I used to be with wow, for the record). What I said is obviously true to anyone who doesn't pick a side between the two.What is obvious is that wow is basically just a cult at this point. You can see it even in how you responded to me. I mentioned FF14 and a light switch went off in your head "!!! I found the enemy!!!" then everything else went out the window.You can tell that ff14 got in wow player's heads because wow players have never been anywhere near deranged//unhinged about any other MMO.One day, you will have to come to terms that you sunk a lot of hours of your precious youth into a game that is done, and has been for a long time. The earlier you can let go, the better it is for you.
>>686616161but we shat on the game when it was neededwe shat on it during wod because it was unfinishedwe shat on it when they announced mop laughing at fat pandaswe shat on it during cataclysm with green jesuswe shat on it with shadowlands with the shit storywe shat on bfa's garbage systemand we shat on the gay shit in DFTWW is a good expansion. and you can kindly tongue my anus
>>686615392No, I get what he means. For the record, my last expansion was battle for azeroth. They were good at dangling "look we're bringing the real warcraft back - for real this time" every expansion. All the expansions leaned into this other than MoP (which ironically is my favorite outside the initial vanilla/bc/wrath era) but shadowlands visually and thematically literally just seemed like some whatever fanservice shit. Sylvannas just destroys the lich king's helmet, all right. Uther is a blue angel. Okay. Let's just toss the whole setting into the garbage.
>>686615629Why was this post hidden? There's literally nothing offensive about what he's asking about.
>>686614685delves are way too fucking easy if anything. what's this retard even talking about?
All I'm saying is, if you're going to force a short hair brown girl on the players at least make her cute and likeable.
>>686616063>even the niggress is beautifully writtenShe's a dumb nigger who doesn't want a functioning arm because she's written by and for utter faggots.
>>686616330DF had a terribly forgettable story where nobody can even remember what happened after finishing the campaign. All the cutscenes were pure uncut cringe where the power of friendship wins out over evil because uhhh... reasons.TWW is the same fucking writing team writing the same low grade slop. It is not better. It is DF part 2. You have very low standards if you think this is 'good'.
>>686616402He's criticizing the game. On the WoW forums. Can't have that. Also it's a subject that has, bizarrely, been politicized, so yeah...
>>686616417they're easy because right now only tier 3 of difficulty is availableonce people start getting their shit pushed it they won't say that anymore>>686616432you don't play the game so your opinion is invalid
>Fucking Saturday night>Only 60k on TwitchLoleLmao even
>>686616330>TWW is a good expansion.Prove it.>>686616503>you don't play the game so your opinion is invalidPeople who play Blizzard games do not even deserve an opinion.
>>686616482sorry sis but the earthen are more compelling and better written than anything from legion to now
>>686616417They're meant to be a new major pillar of the game and the content is so thin, people are done with them in 3 hours.
>>686616612>Story has been absolute dildos since Legion, when the planet was impaled for no fucking reason and then the sword sticking out the planet was ignored for 8 years>Uhhh this story is the best thing since Legionthat's like winning gold at the special olympics
>>686616063>even the niggress is beautifully writtenHer entire character is her choosing to remain crippled because her disability is her entire personality, and getting a prosthetic would require her to actually have one.
>>686616503>they're easy because right now only tier 3 of difficulty is availabletheyre easy because theyre designed for the lowest denominator player much like normal and old heroic dungeons wereBlizzard has already said the hardest delve be easier than mage towers, which is really bad. Half the mage towers at release in Nighthold were too easy (ie anything with feltotems fall or sigryn), and later on so many were just complete jokes
>>686616581>Prove it.translation>try to convince a final fantasy tranny that the wow expansion is good when his mind is already made up and has a tranny crusade to run on 4chan on behalf of tranny enixkekmao
>>686616713>Metzen said it'll still take years before the sword becomes relevant again>It'll be because Illidan comes back
>>686616713>the sword sticking out the planet was ignored for 8 yearswe went to Silithus many times in BFA what are you talking about
>>686616330>TWW is a good expansionStraight from Wikipedia
>>686616330The cutoff is around BFA/shadowlands. The playerbase wasn't cult-like before that. Some guy earlier said shadowlands was the mortal wound, I'm inclined to agree. I haven't played in a long time.>we shat on the gay shit in DFthis absolutely did not happen, lol. We can see the posts you guys write. Every single time someone would make fun of it, you'd have legions of wow addicts go "but ff14", which is essentially what you did with me as well, so you were probably one of them.
>>686616765>but final fantasyholy rent free
>>686616781I wish they would just admit they have no idea what they're doing and straight up forgot about the sword instead of pretending there's some overarching master plan and all will become clear in time. They don't think much of the playerbase's intelligence
>>686616402If I have to guess it's the fact she suggested women with beards is a joke, something worthy of mockery.
>>686616765>try to convince a final fantasy trannyI have not nor will I ever play any Final Fantasy game. Now try again, faggot.It seems like you're a projecting faggot who can't say a single positive thing about TWW.
We are so back. This time 4 real 4 sure. Fuck yeah bros.
>>686616861i mean they're always in these threads that's not a mystery. even in wowg. they "quit" wow in 2021 and have been running a tranny crusade for tranny enix online since thenthey just switched assholes. i think everyone knows this
>>686582973yep he's dead, nice wokegame wowtrannies
>>686617079keep dodgint, why is TWW good
>>686597212Nobody plays it for that anymore, since it kept getting dumber and dumber and dumber and dumber etc.Having cared about the story and the characters in olden times, I just get unreasonably annoyed at every new way these people come up with to shit on what was basically a decent story and universe and all the characters that used to be fun.
>>686617079>Anyone that expresses a negative opinion about wow is actually part of a conspiracy to defame it by XIV playersnow this is schizoposting, take your meds you reprehensible fucking idiot
>>686617126for me? tons of qols, warbands are great for someone like me that plays alts, my hero talents are great, can gear my alts with delves by myself, they removed all the trash affixes from m+, the zones are nice, so are the quests and music, and no faggots or tranniesthat's enough for me to enjoy the game
>>686581447Was watching my buddy stream this game and saw this bitches feet twice. I was like wtf why do they keep focusing on her feet like that, someone obviously is a footfag, but how did it get through QA?
>>686612074>badass>did literally nothingllo
>>686616063>even the niggress is beautifully writtenI'm not seeing it. She's literally pic related.>The scion of an important lore character who never existed before>Has the mixed blood of several people>part of an ancient empire of greatness>As a child literally saved a plot mcguffin>had an orphanage built just to accommodate her>Her shield was made by the most important armorer and despite being a cripple she can fight better than most people>Is looked up to by most of her people and seen as a figurehead.>Literally drenched in prophecy waiting to happen.
>>686616075>I feel at this point the FF14 shitposting is really just deflection because it's hard to look at modern wow and get excited for it.That's basically it. In some convoluted way, it was a boon for blizzard in cultivating their deranged lunatic cult-like playerbase that an actual rival, competing MMO came around because it gave them an opponent to rally against. You never saw wow players get mindbroken by another MMO before ff14. It's very clear for someone who doesn't play either games that wow players are obsessed with ff14, I guess for stealing or threatening to steal the crown of biggest MMO or something? It seems very deranged and strange being on the outside looking in. Anyway, there's no attempt to sell wow, it's just "ff14 sucks" over and over.
>>686597212The story's been dead ever since they did the whole Jailer was the mastermind behind everything bullshit in SL. If you were still invested in the story up to that point you no longer are. Now you play to farm cheevos and mogs.
>>686613227Can't wait for them to kill of the only good thing from WoD because they need to make some asinine point about the light being evil AKSHUALLY
>>686617212lol i made 1 single post shitting on that dead game >>686614870 and immediately got a reply ex wow fags that supposedly moved on stalk wow threads 24/7, that's a known fact
>>686617304>The scion of an important lore character who never existed beforeThe scion who was never referenced before. Ugh.
lots of seething over ff14 ITT
>>686617265If you played Cata Classic on release and saw all the appalling bugs they let go to production like literally being unable to leave groups you joined without using console commands, you realize they have very little to no QA at all nowadays
>>686616839>sexual feelingsWhat?
>>686612661Yes. I would literally have bought the game if it just ended there.
>>686617529wouldn't call it seething, i take a shit on it from time to time in these threads because it's guaranteed yous from larpers larping as pic rel
>>686617462Of course ex-WoW players are going to check out new expansion releases just in case the game got good again (fat chance). There's over 100 million ex-players according to Blizzard's own publicly disclosed. You are a straight up inbred moron if you think there's a conspiracy
>>686580910The game was clearly already halfway when Metzen joined. The next expansion will be 100% certified Metzen kino.
>>686617079You are deranged.
>>686617629Corruption and Thrall circlejerking?
>>686617629>Metzen kino.Not even once, non-stop character corruption and Green Jesus.
>>686617542Have you not seen the feet pics?>>686581447
>>6866006804k highest settings, looks more or less the same
>>686617628bro those "ex-wow" players are like this >>686614656they think there is some "wow janny" out there deleting their threads so they think by shitting on wow they will piss the janny offfinal fantasy trannies are the most deranged creatures on this website
>>686617629>Metzen kinoso poor writing with dead end characters, a lot of circle-jerking with orcs (the most boring Warcraft race) and a bit of corruption on top?
I'm still waiting for somebody to tell me why TWW is such a great expansion
Umm bros wasn't Metzen going to bring back all the Metal to Warcraft? Where is the manly shit and warhammer worship...?
>>686617773yep ok confirmed for gigantic retard. Keep fighting imaginary battles with "XIV players" you drooling idiot
>>686617773i just play both games like a relatively normal person.
>>686617854you were answered here >>686617260
>Metzen kino
>>686617772Thank you, finally someone delivers.
>>686617854One guy mentioned alt character faggotry and that has been it so far. Literally minor patch content.
>>686617857>wasn't Metzen going to bring back all the Metal to WarcraftHe already walked that shit back, saying how he had basically no input to TWW but might be able to do shit in the next 2 chapters of this last-gasp money-grabCharging $90 for expansions, one a year for the next 3 years is just milking the last they can get before they close up shop
>>686617773>bro those "ex-wow" players are like thisderanged to assume every disgruntled player is like this. I am a disgruntled explayer. I have no relation with that strand of mental illness. WoW is trash now and has been for a long time.>>686614656this is also extremely deranged bordering on schizophrenic paranoia
>>686617772Something went terribly wrong during the development of this expansion. Large areas like this look entirely unfinished. They had a mass exodus of employees because of forced return-to-office, I guess this is the resulthttps://www.ign.com/articles/blizzard-producer-claims-studio-is-creating-crisis-maps-as-more-employees-depart
They are selling you patches for $90 holy fuck that's so fucking based of them. Actualy on my knees. What a company.
>All the people doubting the METZEN KINOMetzen was the one who made all the dark edgy art for Warcraft. He was part of WoW when it was pure manly testerone fueled gaming. He wrote some bad shit but he's the one responsible for maknig it one of the most alpha male franchises in the world before the onions cucks ruined it.
>>686618139Schizo post
>>686618051nah, hallowfall is easily one of the best zones in the game
>>686617854It's not a great expansion, it's a large patch to Dragonflight with a 3 hour campaign with 4 copy-pastes of Zaralek Cavern, one of the worst zones ever added, and a $90 price tag to play it on release day
>>686618158Here's the thing though, even if he pens out a super hardcore metal album tier story, you just know the rest of the team will give him shit and want to change everything about it.
>>686618158Metzen is a garbage artist, the Warcraft games are awesome but everything else sucks.
>>686618174This. I'd pay double if I could.
>>686618194>One of the five zones added isn't low effort dogshitwow, definitely worth $90 then. If it's so great, why aren't you playing it right now?
>>686618051Nothing about that looks unfinishedIt's a plain, it's supposed to not have trees
>>686587827>My friends prefer to play new Path of Exile leaguethat's because it's fun
>>686617529wowfags do that. If you criticize their favorite skinner box too hard they deflect to that game.
>>686617772If you told me this was a screenshot from one of those blatently unfinished "WoW killers" from back in the day i would have believed it.
>>686618284im in game
>>686618158All good Warcraft art was made by the Samwise.And in case you forgot, Metzen was in charge of the fucking Green Jesus wank is the literal reason people turned on Thrall as a character. That is how bad a writer he truly is if left to his own devices.
>>686617857Bringing Metzen back was the most obvious PR move I've ever seen them do. "We're so back for real this time around bross!!" x 10000.Short of firing the entire dev-team and making a new one from scratch, this game is doomed. Well, let's be honest, at this point in the game you could do that and it wouldn't change anything. They squandered all the good will they might have had at this point. I wouldn't ever give this game another chance.>>686618158he got old, became a dad and his testosterone levels collapsed. Dads are a bane.
>>686618343The gameplay must be gripping considering you are responding to posts in 30 seconds or less
>>686580910People who play MMO's for "story" are full retards.
>>686618369how is it doomed when it mogs every other mmo out there? it basically has no competition right now. and it certainly won't have any with midnight/quelthalas/eastern kingdoms
>>686618349>the Samwise.that was the fat guy with wavey hair, right? Is he still working there?
>>686618437Fucking retard. You play them for the world building and the community driven aspects, which includes story.
>>686618343That looks... pretty fucking bad.
>>686618425taking a break because im eating so youre my entertainment
>>686618457bot post. nobody cares about mmos anymore
>>686618291You have mental problems, zones from WoD in 2014 look better than this
>>686618457>when it mogs every other mmo out thereRetoilet requires Classic refreshes just to keep subscriber numbers high. Only the most cost sunk retard still plays modern wow.
>>686618482No, he is not.
>>686618051You’re joking, right? The game has been unfinished content sim since Shadowlands, and has been a downscaled project in general since… idk, legion? This entire thread is paid blizzard bots btw. They make money off reminding some people to try (buy) the expansion and get a year-long sub before they inevitably stop playing 3 months in
>>686618597kek, classic is fucking dead. every classic player is playing retail right now and praising it
Saturday night
>>686618654Fucking OUCH
>>686618654>Overwatch 2>Season 11When the fuck?
>>686618624Shadowlands was an abortion of an expansion but it at least still had respectable art. Things have gone way downhill in TWW where even the art has started to look amateurish
>>686618654holy kekers, is it actually that bad? I thought most of the shitposting was memes LOL
>>686618624>They make money off reminding some people to try (buy) the expansion and get a year-long sub before they inevitably stop playing 3 months indoes that actually work?
>>686618654>Highest streamer can't break 9k viewers>someone in the top 10 is playing classic wowPeople already given up on the game.
>>686618761>is it actually that badWorse, actuallyNow it's behind fucking Minecraft in total viewers
>>686618654>Even fucking DT had more viewers and nobody wants to watch the MSQ the first week to avoid spoilersYou can't make this shit up
>>686618624This is actually genuine boomer delusionLegion and BFA were the most content heavy expacs by farBefore Legion the only expac with 4 raid tiers had to copy-paste one from vanilla
>>686617772How did we go from SURAMAR to THIS?!
>>686618654I'm dying.
>>686618774>does that actually work?It worked for me many years ago, when they also threw in Diablo 3 with a 12 month up-front subscriptionI made enough money off the D3 AH to cover the cost, so I was happy
>>686618929>muh raidsEven back in vanilla most people never gave a fuck about raiding. The only reason so much development went into raiding was because they wanted to make them, a lot of devs being former Everquest raiders themselves
>>686618753You should’ve seen the damage control during DF when people were exposing how poorly designed the new race’s player models were
>>686618896tww EA without drops peaked at 280khow much was trannytrail?
>>686618654E-Everyone is sleeping.
>>686619006>people had lower standardsThat doesn't mean there was more. In no way was anything downscaled when there's magnitudes more content in new expansions
>>686618624I got a story. When Dragonflight came out, they did a promotional event where if you bought the game they gave you a month of game time. I missed the deadline by a few days. I'm an explayer who sunk disgusting amount of time and money into the game, hadn't played in years.I let myself be tempted and send them a ticket saying if they extend the deadline and give me a month I'd buy the expansion. That was the chance to get an ex-addict back in.The indian gentleman doing customer service for them responded something like (in broken english) "sorry sir but no we can't give you the month. please buy the dragonflight and i hope you will enjoy the game sir :)" which made me laugh and glad I didn't go through with it. I'm free of that game for good.
>>686618941The sexual harassment scandal killed the company. In response they had to let go of a lot of competent people, then hire incompetent people who checked the right boxes to replace them.
>>686618654>shitwatchFuck. It might actually be over now lmao
>>686619115>#ad
>>686619231can you answer the question? wow still mogs every other mmo in viewership 99% of the time so the argument falls flat on its face
>>686618568No they don'tChunks of nagrand look the sameMost zones looks much worse and just hide it with foliage but the zone isn't supposed to be a forest
>>686619115DF EA was at like 800 or 900kDT I saw 70 to 90k for like a week
>>686619173I was considering resubbing and tried logging into my Battlenet account, it asked for the authenticatorTried to use it on my phone, it kept refreshing after every login attemptI sent a ticket and got back a copy-paste reply directly from their website with "Try clearing cookies" and shit like thatThat's all I needed to realize that Blizzard hasn't changed
>>686619317Nobody cares about viewership you dumb niggerWoW gets “mogged” by among us, does that mean among us is a good game?Why are wow players always such faggots
>>686618892Blizzard will just give a shitty pet/mount if you watch WoW's streams to artificially inflate interest in the expansion.
>>686619317>>686619362Ouch. Lole.It's ok bro. Next time for sure.
>>686611147>everyone else still on wow just copingI live in venezuela and sell rushes for US dollars
>>686617772>Developer in 2003 envisions a fantasy world>Dwarf strongholds in snowy mountains, human kingdom destroyed by undeath and plague, haunted forests, jungles filled with danger and secrets>Developer in 2023 envisions a fantasy world>This
I never realized how bad this game was until I did that quest in dragonflight where the gay guy was angry his parents refused to go to his gay wedding and asked you to go kill them and bring their heads back as proof.
>>686619403>Nobody cares about viewershipYou're a god damn retard. If people didn't care there wouldn't be a need for streamers to use viewbots
>>686619367Remember when their customer service had a golden, spotless reputation? It's funny that they outsourced it all to indians. It's so fucking bad now.
>>686619453>dwarves can't live in plaines because...well they just can'tIt's literally the same aesthetic as shit Loch Modan
>>686619480LMAO no way that's real
>You don't understand, the zone is meant to be boring and uninterestingAt least put effort into your cope, wowfags
Just one more year and another $90 and THEN we are REALLY fuckng back bros.
>>686619362>>686619443why would you lie when the data is available?by 3rd day it peaked at only 34k with dropsand with #ads
>>686619453Genuinely how are the vanilla wow zones so consistently good?
>>686619560With the difference being that there is actually shit in Loch Modan and not a vast empty nothingness.I mean we had zones that were meant to massive empty steppeland and it STILL had more shit going on than this trash.
>>686619560Dude, you need help.
>>686619362dragonflight had no early access lmaoit also had drops day 1drops for TWW start on the 26th
>>686619634Blizzard loved their games back then.Now WoW has been milked for decades, and some people still can't quit due to addiction.
>>686619560Loch Modan actually had things in it, like a loch (hence the name).
>>686619665Except there wasn't anything in loch modan, like all classic zones it was empty as fuck
>>686619596>July 5>3rd dayWoW american education, everyone.
>>686619596Why would you post stats that are not on the peak?Because you're a dishonest fanboy?
>>686619596That's a big oof. I bet this post will be ignored entirely
>>686619753(you)
>>686619753Legit not even trying.
>>686617772New Everquest expansion is looking lit
>>686619781wow peaked in early access at 280K without dropstrannytrail peaked at 109k with drops and by 3rd day it dropped to 34kwith dropsand #adsholy fuck what a retarded HRT chugging tranny you are LMAO
>>686619481You’re a 20 yr old zoomer, aren’t you?
>>686619732>it had a lakeWow really breaking new bounds of creativity here >>686619793>>686619836Looks like as usual the troons can't actually refute anything
Older WoW zones when viewed from the sky with the distance slider maxed out are mostly clear, crisp and vibrant. Newer zones all have this tint or fog or whatever added that really impacts the fidelity and quality of the zones.All I want to know is this: WHY?
>>686619596DT released on June 28th
>>686619634Blizzard had competent people back then who wanted to make a good game. That Blizzard is long dead.
>>686619753>like classic zonesNigga you were in kindergarten when we were playing that shit
>>686619916then that's even worse, because the peak on that day is 60k
>>686619873>Doesn't know how to countActually impressive
>Metzen didn't actually work on TWW>The next expansion will be better
>zoomers arguing view countY’all are failures irl and I can tell
>>686619992make up your minddo you want to treat 28th with 60k peak as the release day, or 2nd of july with 109k?either way wow shits on your cope regardlesswithout drops btwvs drops btwnow what
>>686619969I'm sure it was 60k. When everybody saw 100k+ and there was shitposting up the ass here.
>>686620069The person on 4chan in a thread about a live service game is calling others failures in real life. How hypocritical.
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>>686619560I don't see anything like the mountain tunnels or the huge dwarven dam, or actual settlements build into the hills, just pointless rocks and trees
>>686618654Is it finally gonna ack this time since people are burned out with ugly DEI shit (concord dustborn etc acking) plus the game is too old at this point? Or are there enough drones to infinitely sustain it? Anecdotally I know 3 onions faggots that bought the epic edition and are playing right now.
>>686620075ok so it was just you faggots coping. got ityou have no room to bring up twitch views for an mmo, especially if said mmo mogs its competitors by a landslide
Didn't take long to break the poor soul.
>>686620196i will spam every mmo thread on 4chan with twitch trash when RWF comes about in a few weeks and the viewership shoots up to 300-400k like in DF lol
>>686620158>I don't see itBecause you're retarded, the stairs entering the giant city are right at the bottom there
>>686620198Don't take the bait bro. Our game is the best MMO and possibly the best video game ever made. We are so fucking lucky to have something like this in our lives. Let others seethe and cope. We will be having fun instead.
>>686620196>Or are there enough drones to infinitely sustain it?I think so. Pretty much all the guys I used to play with in like, 2015 still buy the expansion and play a couple months before flunking out every cycle.Honestly, a massive contribution factor for me quitting that shit game was when one of them said something like "lucky for blizzard, they'll always have players like anon (me) who just can't help themselves and buy every expansion for the rest of their lives". Ironically, he's still playing, and I haven't in like 5 years now. The spite got me out of it.
>>686620196This is clearly their last ditch effort to get as much blood from the stone as they canFleecing the FOMO retards for an extra $40, and selling content patches as expansions (probably for $100+ each)They're cashing in before they say "We've told all of the stories we wanted for WoW, we're going to go into maintenance mode and put out no new content" in early 2027
>>686620153I'm sorry xiv's existence mindbroke you so hard anon
>>686620450Seeing his idol Asmonfag playing FF14 must've destroyed his entire world for a couple months
Since Asmongoloid was mentioned:https://streamable.com/pdkhz9
>>686620430>selling content patches as expansions (probably for $100+ each)This is a debunked tranny talking point so good job outing yourself >maintenance mode in 2027The world soul saga is going through to 2030 you retarded troon
>>6866204302 more weeks broin the meantime you can continue to seethe at the king
There's no way TWW within is even gayer than Dragonflight... right? If I have the RPG itch what should I play?>dark and darker>path of exile>OSRS>????
>>686618654>B-BUT TROON FANTASY VIEW--Lmao. Actually the biggest fucking cope this time around.Those numbers are fucking pathetic for your game's standards and there is no mental gymnastics to get around that.
>>686620196>Or are there enough drones to infinitely sustain it?EQ still gets yearly expansions funded by its sunk cost fallacy base so WoW will never die unless MS pulls the plug.
>>686620520People were actually sending him death threats over that. They felt betrayed
>>686620627Play with your dick instead.
>>686620627None of those are rpgs
>>686620627there is no faggotry in tww.
>>686619634Blizzard just had a different world design mentality. Vanilla was built on the idea that zones had an overarching story and would react to problems and events in other areas.Human zones are GOAT for this because each realm of the SW kingdom is dealing with a horrible problem and you get the vibes that leadership is fucked at the capital (because it is) long before you do the OL attunement. You also see the story of the human kingdoms told with pretty much the entirety of humanity wiped out across the EK and only pockets of power left after the Third War.That's just one faction too.As soon as you get into TBC, they shifted to the new design where every zone had to be a themepark even if it was trying to tell and overarching story and you start to get "zone stories" where a storyline sticks to a single zone and isn't brought up or referenced anywhere else.By the time you're in modern WoW, a single zone is only important to itself and every zone is telling a loosely connected whole story that focused on a specific problem instead of trying to construct a whole region and tell an entire story.
>>686620668this is the most obvious thing. Blizzard can simple view it as a "put money in, get money out" income stream. As long as the budget isn't too high, it's free money.
>>686620196The game has survived 2 decades as a sub game. Worst case scenario they transition to a free to play model which will give them justification to go full Jew with the cash shop.
>>686618349metzen got hired at a random concert because he was a jew, he literally has zero talent
>>686620767idk I saw a screenshot of alduin holding hands with a black guy, seemed kinda gay to me
>>686620841he singlehandedly wrote wc3 which is a legendary game
>>686618654S-Stop the countPlease...
>>686620816>justification to go full Jew with the cash shop."to go" implies it's not already thereWhere else could they possibly go with it?
>>686620789It's the WoW time already extremely underfunded and basically a skeleton crew already? I remember a lot of reports about that and it being the key reason why content would get delayed or it would take Blizzard an entire expansion to course correct.
>>686620864>male and female holding hands in prayer>faggotryjesus christ what happened to this board
>>686619560how are you this mentally ill and not on some kind of medication?
>>686620945there's no way that's a female
>>686620903After playing my fair share of Asian MMOs over the years, things can look far worse than they do now. Right now the most power you can directly purchase is boosting a character's level. That would change if WoW goes f2p.
>>686620787Zones didn't react to anything on vanillaAll of vanilla horde literally didn't have coherent stories period, nor did non human alliance
>>686620945blacks are the gays of race
>>686621064Dwarf is coherent from what I remember of it.
>>686621016How are you so dishonest and still haven't 41%ed
>>686620934they bought a studio of 100 devs to shut down the game. trust the plan sisters, in 2 weeks there will be no more wow threads!
>>686621054>Asian MMOsOh fuck yeah, I've mentally blocked out my time in Lost Ark, but you just reminded me about how bad shit can get
I hate how men aren't allowed to be cool in this game anymore. Every guy is some sad sack bitch whos constantly apologizing for something. They truly make this shit for women and troons now.
>>686621134>Everyone who disagrees with me is transtiresome
>>686621138I don't think they bought blizzard for wow, bro...
>>686620945you cannot be serious
>>686621178black men are allowed to be cool in the current landscape, so they should make all the male characters black. It would be funny. I support it.
>>686621206retard. blizzard bought an entire studio to work on wowduring the microsoft culling a few months ago, nobody from wow was touched
>>686620934Blizzard forced everyone back into the office late last year and had massive employee attrition because of it. Several of their principal artists quit over it including Samwise. The engineering lead of WoW classic also quit. They had to cancel large pieces of content in DF and TWW because of it
>>686618654lol
>>686621309was already running a bare minimum, unable to cull without stopping the game
>>686621350samwise left because they put hots in maintenance mode and he was basically just leechingthat man hasn't done any work in years
>>686621269it'll be wildly successful like stormgate, which has a single male character who is a nigger
>>686621118Its not, it goes nowhere and the dark iron stuff later is entirely detached from the earlier zones
>>686621094the absolute state of tranny fantasyhow does that company still have these retarded simps after all this shit? how can they come into these threads to attack wow and blizzard when they swallow sushi flavored diarrhea by the gallon?
>>686620870>legendaryEh the Human campaign is a classic and the Arthas to Lich King arc was a good setup but it's pretty mid with every other story.I think Arthas only works too because there was like zero normie competition. Even then it has problems with how the Prophet appears and is purposefully vague for the story's sake and how some of the conflict is just contrived by Uther and Jaina dropping Arthas and making zero attempt to interact with him.Uther I understand the Stratholme hate, but Jaina saw what the plague was doing and there's no verisimilitude with how they act.Metzen's a decent writer but he's not good at making things come to a satisfying conclusion. TFT is a satisfying setup for a better story but it leaves the WC3 story in an open loop and WoW didn't really answer any of that with satisfaction. Not going to bring up TBC or Wrath either. They've both very substandard conclusions.SC2 was also notoriously poorly written.Chris Metzen is a gigantic meme and he was always the weakest pillar at Blizzard.
>>686621420He was working on the unannounced survival game and that got cancelled because they couldn't 'find the fun' despite 7 years of development. He was also forced back into the office because muh collaboration. The combination of both led him to quit.
>>686618654>dropped 3k in 30 minutes
>>686621350Nice headcanon why don't you name what was supposedly cut
>>686621539There's articles about it you absolute fucking retard, learn to google. You are insufferably stupid https://massivelyop.com/2023/04/18/world-of-warcraft-producer-claims-blizzard-is-bleeding-talent-and-creating-crisis-maps-for-feature-releases/
>>686621520miss me with that shit, he's an old fart that did nothing of note in yearsand the fact that the project was canned tells you all there is to hit about his work there
>>686621603He's an artist, why would problems with gameplay coalescing into something enjoyable have anything to do with him? Do you even know what he does?
>>686621589>2023>wow now gets a patch every 8 weeks>mysteriously there were no crisis maps in shadowlands in 2021 when 9.1 took 8 months to release and everything was shit>mentions DEIinto the trash it goes. some nepo hire got canned and he got pissy.
>>686621513metzen is a shit writer who ripped off the last dnd module or fantasy novel he read
>>686621539>didn't hear itI'm pretty sure I remember multiple front page threads saying Blizzard just took a liver punch from the return to office call.Like this>>686621589>>686621668Guy probably sees Samwise and assumes we're talking about the LotR movies. Probably doesn't even know he knows what the man looked like when he was younger. Probably has no idea where Pandarens come from as well.
>>686618343>the year is 2024>everything in WoW is still made of giant low-res cubes
>>686618890it's really incredible how blizzard managed to make irrelevant one of the most famous and highly praised games of all time, not a single official version of it is worth playing
>>686621668he was an artist. show me something he did and was released in the last 3 years>>686621804>what is artstyle
>>686621786Dude is very low intelligence, which I guess is the target demographic for WoW nowadays
>>686621589>uhh but someone said soSo no proof, got it
>>686621887>what is artstyle>IT LOOKS LIKE SHIT ON PURPOSE
>>686621925The source is a producer at Blizzard and is listed in the article which you didn't even bother to scroll down and read. You are too dumb to argue with any furtherhttps://twitter.com/Glaxigrav/status/1648116634463404032
>>686608763>>686605714Is this the only character that looks hotter on her ingame model than OC porn models?
>>686621968it's the well known warcraft artstyle, dumb nigger
>>686621764>shit writerBy the virtue of people remembering his characters and stories and more than one game he wrote being loved for it's story, He isn't. Consistently shit writers never even get noticed by the masses.Metzen's standard of writing got left behind by the industry though. Everything he could do in WC3 there's people doing the same thing now.
>>686615629>>686615834>>686616402wow is beyond dead
>>686622075>>By the virtue of people remembering his characters and stories and more than one game he wrote being loved for it's story, He isn't.We remember them because they were badly written.
>>686622004Which is still just him making shit up for Twitter cloutNo actual proof. Not a piece of content named, no evidence of actual schedule changes, just him lying on the internet
>>686621513regardless of what you think of him, wc3 is one of the greatest video games of all timeso is wowand you can't take that away from him
>>686622075There hasn't really been anything with the same soul and long-term impact in gaming as WC3, even to this day. Unfortunately Metzen did too much coke and fried his brain and has never been able to recapture the lightning in the bottle>>686622185dumb af
>>686622075>if you market shit to dumb impressionable kids you're actually a great writerNo.
>>686622209>so is wowVanilla WoW, TBC and WotLK, yes. Everything after that is garbage.
>>686622063>IT REALLY TRULY LOOKS LIKE SHIT ON PURPOSE I SWEAR
>>686622283>named 3 versions with no content and bad mechanics Want to know how I know you never got glad?
>>686622075the sooner blizzard plagiarism is forgotten the better
Warcraft 3 is when the plague of hugbox Orcs began, it's also when Metzen became the creative director.
686622349No (you) for such low effort bait.
@686622483Shittdr cope postYou fags always pussy out of actually defending your shitpile boomerslop
>>686622283this cope again. classic boomer faggot/final fantasy tranny can't wrap his head around the fact that while that period of wow was great for its time, it's also fucking dogshit by current standardseveryone stopped playing wrath classic around ulduar and started to grift le hardcore wow because1 classic players are allergic to difficultyand 2 classic players don't like to put in effort for the best lootdo i need to also remind you how TBC utterly assassinated lady vashj, kaelthas and illidan? or how wrath portrayed arthas like a saturday morning cartoon villain?MOVE THE FUCK ON
>>686622169>>686622271Nah bad writing is forgettable. You don't even remember it. Saying Chris Metzen is a shit writer is an exaggeration by someone that's never seen truly shit writing.>>686622360Most things are inspired by other things. Arthas' plot has been done before.>>686622251That's because WC3 was a product greater than the sum of it's parts and Metzen only part of the team.
>>686622627>Nah bad writing is forgettable. You don't even remember it.You're an NPC and your opinion of anything has no meaning.
>>686622627Danuser makes Metzen look like Steven King. Anyone that thinks Metzen was a bad writer hasn't played Dragonflight.
>>686622695>Shitty writer isn't shitty because someone else is even worseCorruptionGreen Jesus
>>686622209>greatest games of all timeNah it isn't. The game has a unique flavor of rts but I'd argue DoW was better at doing heroes than it. SC was a better rts too.It's a good game but just because it was a flashbulb memory for you as a kid doesn't make it GOAT when other games play better, have better stories, and did more for the genre.
You know you're in a thread full of shills and dumb kids when they have mental breakdowns over early WoW being mentioned.
>>686622749Yes we're all aware of the low points of Metzen's writing. At least he came up with memorable characters like Illidan and Arthas though. Danuser came up with... uhh... dragons in wheelchairs? Fyrakk?
>>686622749arthasillidanyou are not preparedby fire be purgedso many legendary lines are tattooed on our brains because of metzenmeanwhile that faggot danuser hasn't written anything even remotely close to metzen
>>686622754>DoW was better at doing heroes than it.Come on, that's so painfully retarded that not even you can believe what you just said.
>>686622683>you're npcNah, I'm right. You're over here throwing shade but I'm getting the feeling you have literally no idea what makes a story work and you're just looking to dunk on Metzen because of some childish asshurt.
>>686622627>bad writing is forgettableExcept for all the nostalgia people have for kids tv and movies, or for Chris metzens slopOr you could just look at anything from Japan
>>686622846>so many legendary lines are tattooed on our brains because of metzenAnd so many bad lines are also tattooed into our brains, retard.Having a few highpoints doesn't make you good when it's outclassed by a lot of garbage.
>>686622846It really helps that Metzen has a good voice for fantasy roleplaying characters.I wish they'd have him voice half the game again like in vanilla.
>>686622825metzen is a dirty jew, he caused the feminist problem of modern wow
>>686622903>Having a few highpoints doesn't make you goodyes it does. He had many high points, not just a few. How can you have so many bad opinions? Why are you so angry and stupid?
>>686622869>you're npc>Nah, I'm right.You can't even quote a post, you're clearly a retard.
>>686622846>baby's first Elricit's because youre not well read and were a child you retard>dude voice linesYou can find them in every single expansion
>>686622856Yea I can believe it. I have more than two thousand hours in WC3. It's a good game but there's a reason that people were more inspired to make MOBAs from it than rts games. The story is also mid once you cruise past the human campaign and even nowadays the early 3D graphics look like absolute shit where they had to cut on polygons.
>>686622982If all you got for me is name-calling and no counterpoints, I'll keep taking the (you)s. No skin off my back.
>>686622903most of the kino lines are because of him and nobody can take that away from him. what are you doing my sonsucceeding you fatherthose 2 lines alone shit on EVERYTHING danuser has written in his entire life
>>686623061>25 year old game looks dated nowadaysdeep insight there
>>686622945Someone's got a nice tinfoil hat on.>>686623178It's grandiose writing but it gets to the point, is rooted in logic, consequences led to that, and it has characters that you care about. It's an upgrade from anything I've seen come from WoW in a decade.
>>686623178>Tempest Keep was merely a set back>There must always be a Lich KingInto the trash it goes.Let's not forget that Metzen was the one who turned the Lich King into a retarded cartoon character in Wrath.
>>686623178Literally everything you named is the most generic shit imaginableThat quote could just as easily be straight from GoT or LotR or any other fantasy slop
>>686623215Plenty of old games look just fine even today. Even pixel crushed SC is superior to WC3's artstyle. And WC2 is a better looking game as well.
>>686623301and you again wrote shit that everyone rememberscan you write me 1 line from danuser that is memorable?>>686623339it is generic, but if you contextualize it, then it becomes the kino that it is
>>686623364WC3 was one of the earliest 3D RTS games ever created. SC was still using sprites which were every well understood by 1998 how to make them look good, of course it holds up better.
>>686623339>GoT>LotR>Fantasy slopEverytime I talk with someone I'm /v/ I'm reminded that they're literal cattle that never explore anything outside of what social media talks about. Even then they opinions that make you wonder if this tard has even seen something truly terrible before.
>>686623339Does it ever get tiring being this much of a snivelling obnoxious contrarian all the time?
>>686623442>and you again wrote shit that everyone remembers>can you write me 1 line from danuser that is memorable?Why do you keep bringing up Danuser to deflect away from Metzen? I have literally not said a single thing about him so far.
>>686623548GoT genuinely is slop for subhuman trash. This might hurt your feelings and upset you, but it's the truth.
>>686623474I don't take excuses and it's not even the main thing that holds WC3 back for me. Even story wise, WC2 is so much better and more fulfilling because it actually keeps a solid ending instead of a cliffhanger that wasn't resolved until a raid in a completely different genre of game.
>>686623561the point stands. the lines you wrote are close to being 20 years old, yet you still remember themwhy? because they're legendary
>>686623548GoT is slop. GRRM is a hackThe collected works of Tolkien are not, but they've spawned countless derivate slopfests that are unremarkable like WoW>>686623557Usual normalfag trash stays off of 4chan, wish you would go back where you came from
>>686623708>yet you still remember themI remember them because they're that bad.>why? because they're legendaryYou are truly braindead.I don't "remember" a single Danuser line because I've never played any of his garbage.
>>686623645>>686623714No, it's because it's the first thing a windowlickers like you thinks of when we talk "fantasy slop". It's always that or LoTR because you have no fucking clue whats up or down or left or right outside of the little pool you have accepted. Like fuck I feel like I'm talking with bots sometimes because all your opinions were formed by youtube videos or just 4chan shitposting.
TOTAL METZEN VICTORY
