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press S to spit on its grave
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Balls deep animal fuck.
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>>686740647
>press S
>it just moved me backwards
OP is gay
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>>686740835
S to sex xalatath!
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>>686741038
>>686740835
YAS QUEEN !
suck my pp with your black hole
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>>686740647
Is that my wife Morgana????
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>>686740835
I don't remember my knife looking like this in Legion.
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>>686741038
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Need to breed.
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>early access for a game that isnt in development
the amount of pigs who bought this shit is remarkable, I want to see them make a version that is like $300 and gives you a months early access
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>>686740647
>character gets introduced in Legion
>/v/ doesn't start bitching about it until 4 expansions later
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>>686740647
They never should have let her out of her dagger.
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>>686742797
they hadn't finished all the base talent trees when pre-patch launched, it's still very much in development... every WoW expansion in is early access until season 4.
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>>686740647
I'm having fun.
Best expansion since legion
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>>686743382
>pre-patch
okay but that isnt the expansion launch. If theres no considerable game changes between the opening of 'EA' and the launch tomorrow then the game was always ready to play
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>>686741673
>>686742139
I will continue to seethe in every thread over there not being an option to side with her.
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>>686744576
there might be down the road, or it might be written in that way. at least that's what one of their dev podcast things said: "you know, maybe she isn't actually the villain! we hope players will enjoy the surprises"
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>>686741241
based classic morgana enjoyer
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This character is very trans coded.
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>>686744740
I will actually buy the xpac if they add it.
>fuck all these retarded gaylord factions
>turn the world soul into a void monster mommy
>feed them all to it
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When exactly did WoW's community become so buck broken? From quality of topics I see online wow playerbase must consist of nothing but parse trannies and actual troon/furfag/futa/interracial fetishists. Are there any normal players left in this shit mmo? Did they all quit during Blizzard's great purging?
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>>686740647
So priests should get the Legendary when we kill her as the last boss of the xpac.
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>>686740647
This game keeps getting spammed. Give me some reasons why I should play it?
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>>686746306
If I had to guess, most players are probably only subbed for like 3 months a year or something. Similar to how a certain dev for another game expects that some people will only play for a bit with each new patch. The temporary pandaland remix mode was pretty fun, for example.

>>686745426
Updated Morgana is way hotter, and it's not even close. Same with Evelynn.
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>>686746490
You can't comprehend reasons to play modern retoilet without being an addict yourself. Go hook up on heroine for a month and try to quit after, it will give you good understanding why these wretches come back to this futility simulator despite the fact that the game is getting worse with each and every year
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>>686746610
But if the game is addicting doesn't that mean it's fun? I've only seen it on Youtube and Twitch, though.
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>>686746734
Gacha slop is addicting and rakes in more money than any other genre in the industry. What's your point?
You're telling me that in an industry with no customer standards, where you have no rights as a consumer, and where people spend $20 000 on pixels of a spaceship in a game that was stuck in early access for the last decade being an addicted wretch unable to quit due to dodgy timegating practices from Blizzard meant to prolong your addiction is a crazy idea?
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>>686740647
>quit during Shadowlands patch where they cut more content than they added
>decide to try it out again
>hmmm, what's this "gear upgrade"
>it doesn't just replace my armor, it deletes my inventory and replaces all my bags with worse 22 spotters
>I'm level 60, but the new expac starts at 70
>start Dragonfemales expansion to try and level
>I gain 10 levels before leaving the first zone and am capped in one sitting
What the fuck did they do to this game and my character, mfw
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jesus christ even the shitty artwork is all wamen made
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>>686746490
Futa Draenei
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>>686747135
it sends your old inventory, bags, and equipped gear back to you in the mail when you do the gear update you dummy
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Harranir Sex.
Orweyna breed.
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>>686743610
just hit lvl 76, it is indeed a fun expansion
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>>686746306
you mean XIV community? and after Yawntrail, obviously

now watch, all the XIV seethers will reply to my post defending XIV despite this being a WoW shitposting thread :)
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>>686747060
>Gacha slop is addicting and rakes in more money than any other genre in the industry.
I hear what you are saying, but I play a lot of Genshin Impact and ZZZ, and I love them. Fun games. I've spent money on some banners as well.
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>hate endgame raiding beyond HC pugs deeper into raid tier because I can't fucking stand waiting and wiping to the same boss for days or weeks (literally every time I quit the game is because I try doing raiding)
>M+ is okay but the classes I mained since TBC are all terrible at it from utility standpoint so I get overlooked for the sake of rogues and dhs (battle shout lmao), makes it a fucking chore as I have to pick up my own groups and face dire consequences of burning a key.
>Leveling is an afterthought that took one afternoon in Dragonflight. Story is so bad in nu-Wow I've been skipping the quest dialogue for at least a decade now
>PVP is so fucking confusing and cluttered nowadays I went from being 2.2k in wotlk to a 1.6k hardstuck in DF. 0 interest to pick it up and relearn.
>WPVP is dead due to faction imbalances, war mode as ally is a dead sentence and I sure af am not swapping and getting rid of my banana set.
>Collecting mounts etc still a massive chore with no QoL improvements in the last 20 years. Weekly lockouts with 1% drop rates in braindead content that gives you brain rot as you spam your aoe button 1shotting everything.
>Social side of game is nonexistent, everyone treats it like a 2nd job.
Literally give me a reason to play this garbage again when every element of modern WoW is objectively worse in comparison to what game was 10-15 years ago.
>b4 u don't even play it.
I played it for a while in DF and had fun until they timegated everything again in s3 and I quit again. Pic related.
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>>686747393
Why would I think to check the mail, I have 4 years of Brew of the Month bottles in the way and all my wowfriends are dead(got taste and moved on)
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>>686748221
>give me a reason to play this garbage again
no, there isn't one. have fun
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>>686740647
Is this a new race?
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>>686741241
>>686745426
it's a shame what riot did to lol
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>>686740647
I dunno anon, it seems pretty good this time.
Or at least inoffensive, aside from the scummy early access. Having all rep be account wide and leveling an alt only taking 3 hours is refreshing.

Still convinced they'll somehow fuck it up but they haven't yet.
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>>686742940
>in which we pretend a nothing character was actually developed for many years
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I would consider playing it if they would allow me to play erp with these black hole creatures. These are hot as fuck.
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This entire franchise is completely dead to me until they make WoW 2; and it has to have sweaty muscular male races trying to fucking kill each other. Until I see that, I will not buy your game. And I will not support your game. And I will only continue to shit talk about your game.
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Look WoW is very gay now but if you think xalawhatever has a "manjaw" you might just be a mentally ill retard that has watched a little bit too much anime.
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Xal'atath has a manjaw.
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>>686748221
>I went from being 2.2k in wotlk to a 1.6k hardstuck in DF
That is because nobody knew how to play then and the people who are still pvping have been doing so for 15 years or more
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>>686740835
>Balls deep animal fuck.
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>>686740647
I'll press "PLAY" in Battlenet in 14 hours when the game is out. (anyone who paid 90$ is gay and will die alone). Can't wait to play and explore the new expansion. It's always fun.
>inb4 game is shit, dead and you will have nothing to do in a month
Fuck the haters, stop expecting MMO to be a daily job for the rest of your life. Just play the game, beat the content and fuck off to another games, and then come back for next expansion. It's the most fun this way, been like that since legion. Cheers mate, lok'tar ogar, alliance is gay and for the horde~!
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>>686740835
That's another elf corpse. 90% of the game is gay elves. She was hotter as a knife. They're going to ruin her further by giving her a last second sob story that reveals a bigger bad that she was trying to prevent and people will forget everything and restart the cycle when the second bit drops
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>>686746490
Classic is dead.
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What is even the point of WoW today? Just play a single player game for goodness sake
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>>686749108
There was no single player warcraft game for decades.
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>>686749108
>just play a single player game if you want to play multiplayer
really nigga?
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>>686749183
WoW isn't a multiplayer game anymore.
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>>686749286
>raiding
group
>m+
group
>pvp
group

The only thing you can do solo is farm mounts which is for women
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>>686740647
/s
You can tell that WoW player IQ is below median when Blizzard reivent Jailor everyone hated, make him female and suddenly players praise her as some well developed character (she isn't).
Literally apes following their instincts.
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>>686749286
>anymore
That is since WotLK.
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>>686749347
All pointless, Skinner box tier activities.
It isn't even an RPG either.
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>>686749454
>pointless
some people have fun raiding and doing that shit believe it or not, why do you play games pray tell?
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>>686749413
>WotLK
That was the last time a played it. I simply cannot believe people still play it. Extreme mental illness
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>>686749491
Some people have fun eating feces too.
Sorry, but there are, in fact, right and wrong ways to entertain oneself.
>play games
WoW arguably isn't even a game.
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>>686749502
That was the last good expansion. Tbh I also played Cataclysm and then briefly at the start of the Legion because of the nostalgia bait. But I didn't like the latter two.
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>>686749356
People did not hate Jailer, they hated the execution of the story. Jailer as a concept was fucking cool and based. But they made him gay and retarded, thorgast sucked, shadowlands zones sucked, the maw suck donkey balls like no other. The Jailer as a figure was not a problem - its what they did with him.
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Do people even still consider WoW an RPG? What's the point of things like an armor, weapon or stat system if I have almost zero choice regarding it?
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>>686749602
>y-you're wasting your time
>spends his time posting in threads about games he doesn't play
grant me a swift death if I ever turn into someone like that
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>>686749706
WoW is an action MMO with very basic, bare-bones RPG elements that don't matter as you type /simc and input the data into raidbots.
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>>686749758
Not an argument.
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>>686749685
Anon, you need to learn to use the I-statement. You should talk to your therapist about that.
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>>686749706
I can't see how anyone would. I started playing retail for the first time since og Wrath with this expansion and the leveling process is almost literally on-rails and lasts for like two days, if that. Feels like I haven't really truly learned my character and I'm already a stone's throw from the end of the game with it.
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>Warcraft 3
>Archimonde is summoned into the world
>He destroys Dalaran with a single spell, practically with a thought.
>Entire armies can naught but slow his advance.
>Only the mightiest of mortal heroes are even capable of making him feel pain
>It is only at the last second, with all the power of the World Tree being directed at him at once that he is able to be slain
>Even then, his death causes a massive explosion that leaves the surrounding forest devastated and the World Tree wounded with injuries that will take centuries to heal
>Still, a single demon lord came within mere moments of destroying the world and only nigh unfathomable divine power could stop him
>Modern Warcraft
>Demon lords are easy to kill now
>Also, we've thrown Archimonde's god into prison lmao
>And we're going to be fighting the very entities that scared Archimonde's god so badly that he decided that the universe needed to be unmade and rebuilt without the possibility of their existence
The setting needs a reboot. The scope is out of control.
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>>686749491
>some people have fun raiding and doing that shit believe it or not
I do not, for the sake of my own sanity. This is like learning some reality destroying cosmic truth.
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>>686749706
Almost zero =/= zero. You can still choose stats, gems, enchants, and weapon types. You can still "role-play" as a for example DK but dual wield, or two handed, with axe or polearm or whatever, you have specializations to roleplay as a tank, or dps, or support or whatever. Choises are there, its just not 100% freedom. Stop expecting real life in game. Its not a dnd campaign, its a fucking videogame.
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>>686749874
I honestly think its mostly the sunk cost fallacy with most modern MMO addicts. No description of modern raids have convinced me that they're actually all that much fun or worth playing the zombified corpse of an MMORPG that's had all the MMO and RPG stripped out of it.
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>>686749175
If you want a warcraft game, you shouldn't be playing WoW. The last thing that might have chained someone's nostalgia for the old Warcraft was unceremoniously destroyed in Shadowlands. And it was clearly intentional.
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>>686749884
>You can still choose stats, gems, enchants, and weapon types
There is still almost zero wiggle room here. If this is the bar then almost every game is an RPG
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>>686749706
Erotic roleplay is a type of a roleplay. A role playing game.
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>>686740647
It's not going to work, because you can't /spit on targets anymore. It was deemed toxic and offensive and removed by Blizzard.
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>>686749827
>>It is only at the last second, with all the power of the World Tree being directed at him at once that he is able to be slain
With the power of the myriad of wisps who casted "Detonate" on him and sent him back, because he is a summoned creature.
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>>686750031
The game itself explicitly says that this is the power of the world tree, and he isn't sent back he very clearly explodes.
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Question 1: Are WoW players cognizant of the factum brutum that all their mounts, 'mogs, cheevos etc. will turn to digital dust one day?
Question 2: Are WoW players cognizant?
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>>686750023
Fire Prelate??
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>>686749827
The setting needs NEW, ENGAGING characters. To think that they still rely on decades old characters like Illidan and Sylvanas is mind boggling. Kill them all, turn them into legends, create something new.
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I still goon to wow gnomes but I haven't played since tbc and I would never consider doing so

Focusing on arenas/raids killed this game, anyone saying anything else doesn't know SHIT about video games
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>>686750135
your posts which are all easily identifiable by their militant atheist reddit tone are embarassing and you should stop
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"We are SO STOKED to introduce our new race!"
>it's yet another fucking elf
"Okay we hear you, you want something that isn't an elf. Don't worry, you told us and we listened. Check out our new race!"
>it's yet another fucking dwarf

Maybe they could have saved this game if they had introduced ogres during Warlords, it would still have been a shit expansion and the beginning of the end but I might honestly not have dropped it if they had made playable ogres.
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>>686746306
Everyone sane quit after Shadowlands showed they have absolutely no idea what they're doing, the only people remaining are quasi-cult members who are so addicted they will never leave
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>>686750135
>factum brutum
Kill yourself
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>>686750250
Are you balding?
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>>686750243
I still goon to og human females
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>>686750362
>projecting
do you hide it with a trilby or a fedora, faggot-san?
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>>686750135
Seething responses to these simple questions
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>>686750435
>psychoanalysis
Pseudoscientific gobbledygook.
Are you also a millennial?
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>>686750135
Many things can be true at once. They are aware all their shit will disappear, they are barely cognizant, and you type like a blatant homosexual midwit trying to appear smart
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>>686750292
Ogres from Warcraft 2 should have been available for the Horde since vanilla. But nah, enjoy your horde of green eyed elf girls, lmao.
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>>686750435
>didn't even deny it
Kek baldy
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>>686750135
>factum brutum
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>"MMORPG"
>not Massive
>not Multiplayer
>not a Role Playing Game
WoW is an OIE (Online Interactive Experience)
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>$100 for a one year expansion + $150 for one years subscription
Just admit you like getting fucked in the ass
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>>686750334
>>686750548
>>686750609
Do you use ebonics?
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>>686744576
They can't do anything because they want their game to have a singular narrative where the "heroes of azeroth" player characters are all in harmony. It was rad when the Death Knight Legion class story went off the rails, forcing you to do evil shit, like murder every remaining dragon in the ruby sanctuary except for one, who you turn into an undead wyrm and use as a mount, or massacre 90% of the paladin player's HQ, Lights Hope Chapel, to try and turn Tirion into one of the four horsemen, implying heavily that the new lich king isn't a great dude either, that free will you think you have is probably bullshit, and that you're bound to his will just like the forsaken were. Then it went absolutely bum-fucking nowhere and was never ever mentioned again. It was cool while it lasted though. I'm not even an edgelord, it was just an interesting narrative.

Legion was the best expansion in a long time. It also introduced the knife wife. Shame it was made in an era where they decided to go all-in on timegated content.
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>Do you use ebonics?
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>>686750534
>Are you also a millennial?
Not him, but.
I wonder if any zoomers at all play this game right now. I don't think they have the attention span required to play a mmorpg.
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>>686750429
sicko
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>>686750760
>wow requires an attention span
lol
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>>686750752
Are you ESL?
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>>686747908
Blizz defense force is never going to forget that another MMO had an expansion about as bad as BFA while they're on their fourth consecutive shitty expansion
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>Are you ESL?
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>>686749685
Anon, ive been through too many 'Jailor is shit villain' threads back in SL to read your pathetic revisionist garbage with expression other than picrel.
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I heard that Moria and Gazlowe are getting their roles in The War Within. Is that in the early access of The War Within?
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>>686746610
It's the best FOMO boomers know of and thankfully it's cartoon shit, not creepy weeb shit
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>>686750760
You're an idiot.
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>>686751071
>it's cartoon shit, not creepy weeb shit
Difference being?
Cartoons is the territory of nonces and/or furries
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>>686749685
>Jailer as a concept was fucking cool and based
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>>686749685
>Jailer as a concept was fucking cool and based
SL is one of the few expansions I've played in the past 10 years and I never ever once saw anyone defend the jailer until now.
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>>686740647
why did they make Andun the shortest person in the game?
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>>686751198
hes a white male
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>>686749685
fuck is wrong with you
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>>686748372
>Why would I think to check the mail
Because that's what non retarded people do
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>>686751198
Are these really what the game's graphics look like now?
How do they manage to look so much worse than unmodded XIV?
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Dead gayme
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>>686751238
>>686751154
>>686749818
Okay yeah i phrased it badly. Of course jailer was utter shit villain. What i meant is a concept of jailer then we first heard about it. Like The Old dude in the realm of death that was pulling the strings all along, he was controling arthas by his magic and shit, and his doings were tied to many things througout the years. Dreadlords and shit. Like the very first concept was cool, and people liked it. YES as soon as we met him in game he turned out to be super shit, but the CONCEPT was fine ok?

Same with Xalatath, she has cool concept and a cool lore behind here, and we have 1% chance that she won't turn out to be shit like jailer.
Also i think thats the reason why people hated Jailer so much, because of wasted potential.
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>>686751256
Christ Metzen is the last nostalgia bait they left in their sleeve. Spoiler alert: he won't save shit.
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>>686751773
>Like the very first concept was cool
No it wasn't.
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>>686751198
He doesn't wear high heels.
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>>686751773
>1% chance that she won't turn out to be shit
*0%
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>>686751897
chirs metzen
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what happens to someone that has played WoW for 20 years?
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>>686748752
what about borrowed power and extra systems are those things gone? havent check wow since shadowlands
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>>686751198
Did they porn the Overwatch character into this??
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>>686752197
they fucked most of the borrowed power shit off in DF
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>bought wow around the burning crusade era
>parents didn’t want to install and pay for internet in my room
>never got to play the game till like 2017
>there will probably never be a game like golden age wow ever again because everyone can just google everything, YouTube min maxing, everything you ever want to know is instantly available to search, etc etc

I missed out on wow in its golden years because of them and I regret it and think about this constantly
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>>686751773
>Like The Old dude in the realm of death that was pulling the strings all along, he was controling arthas by his magic and shit, and his doings were tied to many things througout the years. Dreadlords and shit.
That's not cool tough, it literally ruins the world building.
Imagine if Tolkien wrote a sequel to Lord of the Rings and just went, "but ackchyually Sauron was being manipulated by the god of death this wile time, every evil act, from Morgoth to Sauron, all this guy's fault."
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>>686752197
No borrowed powers, and no extra systems.
You have Delves, which are straightforward content with tiers.
You can now upgrade gears. Every gear can be upgraded up to 8 times with currency that drops from raids and world content. Thats the new power system i suppose
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>>686752123
According to Dharma, once they die they will be reincarnated as a tapeworm.
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>>686749026
ok but playing WoW like this feels like playing a singleplayer game from 2004 but with the gayness and lame shit of modern times
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>>686752329
Think about it this way, you didn't drop out of school to grind just to end up 10 years later having to suffer through current retail wow.
Your parents did you a favour.
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>>686752329
You didn't miss much in retrospective.
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>>686752329
Actually I remember now I bought it during wrath of the wrath of the lich king
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>>686750292
Doesn't ogres and orcs hate each other? How would that work?
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>>686749827
Sounds kino, i love shounen powerslop wank. Resubbed
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>>686752284
>porn
ughh I meant to say port
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>>686752369
>You can now upgrade gears. Every gear can be upgraded up to 8 times with currency that drops from raids and world content. Thats the new power system i suppose
How is this in any way preferable to getting a cool looking piece of gear with better stats?
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>>686752487
Based dimwit
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>>686749827
>The setting needs a reboot.
I'd bet money that this is the goal of the world soul saga. You don't come back from shit like the Jailer.
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>>686752458
No I’m stupid yeah I bought it around 2007 so it would be burning crusade
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>>686749685
>>686751773
No.

The Jailer was Archimonde but infinitely stupider, poorly written and with no actual setup in the story. In Warcraft 1 and 2, the orcs are clearly seen consorting with demons. Then Warcraft 3 has "apocalyptic prophesy" as its whole running theme, what with the dead rising again from the grave, fire raining from the sky and AND WHEN HE HAD OPENED THE FOURTH SEAL, I HEARD THE VOICE OF THE FOURTH BEAST SAY, COME AND SEE. AND I LOOKED, AND BEHOLD A PALE HORSE: AND THE NAME OF HIM THAT SAT ON HIM WAS DEATH, AND HELL FOLLOWED WITH HIM. AND POWER WAS GIVEN UNTO THEM OVER THE FOURTH PART OF THE EARTH, TO KILL WITH SWORD, AND WITH HUNGER, AND WITH DISEASE, AND WITH THE BEASTS OF THE EARTH.

With the Jailer? Nothing. A complete ass pull.
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>>686750135
Nothing matters, everything you achieve, real or digital, is going to be forgotten anyway but no, wow players aren't sentient, MMO players in general for that matter.
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Bros will there ever be a game able to capture the magic of pre mainstream internet games
Now there’s no sense of wonder cuz the moment a game releases that night someone already has the entire game solved and spoiled on youtube,
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>>686752508
It's just feel good when you go to a raid, don't drop anything, but at least you got currency to upgrade your current gear, so you still progress little by little. Also when you get this cool looking gear with better stats, you can continue to upgrade it so its even more powerful. Also sometimes you can drop lower ilvl item, but with good stats, or good ability(trinket) and just upgrade it so it will be higher ilvl. You have this option, because previously you would just drop the item.
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>>686740647
Who hurt you?
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>>686750220
>Return from Shadowlands
>Insert "time is convolololo in Shadowlands"-meme
>24000 years passed on Azeroth
>A blank slate for the story
OR
>Everything what happened after WotLK was an illusion induced by our "deaths" during the Lichking encounter
>Thus, everything after WotLK is non-canon
>A blank slate for the story
Hire me blizz
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>>686749706
wow is more of a social game at this point
most people play it for collecting purposes and to get normie validation from their guild
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>>686750220
The half-elf/negro/cripple/half-blind/empowered female isn't enough? Coz she's probably the best we'll be getting from now on
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>>686752732
They coulda done the first one but they didnt, they should do the second one but they never will
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>>686740647
my friend went back to lay this shit
and he went alone
last thing i said was "Gay frogs"
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>>686752757
>wow is more of a social game at this point
It always were. The only way to enjoy this game is to have friends in it. No matter if it is vanilla or tbc or the new crap.
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>>686752732
They also could have said you ended up in shadowlands because you died for real and n'zoth won and destroyed azeroth
Would have been way more based
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Let's be honest, they fucked themselves in the ass for all eternity with this amount of technical (and creative?) debt. Systems upon systems, two parallel game modes, two decades of adding shit to the same engine. Just think of the management behind that. There's no fucking way you can make something good. WoW 2 needs to happen, a fresh start. One can dream.
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>>686752970
this
mmos are social games, always have been
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>>686752708
WoW is gachashit now? Great.
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>>686753262
>wow 2 releases
>zoomers who look up min max guides on youtube before even loading up the game for the first time flood the game by the millions day 1
>normie players who already looked up complete spoilers and guides to everything flood it as well

It wouldn’t be the same.
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>>686751198
A FUCKIN NIGGER AND A FAGGOT
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>>686753262
>two parallel game modes
M+ is by far the best addition to the game, loot-wise. I've raided for years, and the amount of loot-stealing, funneling and drama were staggering.

Whenever I complete my portals in m+, I join a casual hc raiding guild so I get to see the raids. And the drama about loot didn't change and I am so happy that I absolutely need nothing out of those raids.
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>>686753396
What of this is Gacha you retard? Do you even know what gacha mechanics are? It's normal gameplay, you play, get stuff, upgrade it.
You don't roll for fucking banners you idiot
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>>686752970
Yes and no. The original vision for WoW and all MMORPGs was to be an RPG set in a living fantasy world populated with other players. With more "sandbox" style MMOs, the players were intended to take all roles and the world was more dynamic, while with "themepark" MMOs started primarily by Everquest, the world was more static and players mostly took the role of D&D adventurers.

That's very different from the game being a glorified chat room.
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>>686753453
I don't think normies look up guides to games. I know power gaming shit has become more popular, but I don't think it's THAT popular.
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>>686753453
Let them, I feel much more superior when I out-dps minmaxers with my non-meta class/spec.
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>>686753453
The original game experience is lost for ever, the release of Classic was proof of that, I was speaking from a technical standpoint. At the very least you'd see actual cool shit being added.
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>>686753625
Brother, 10x people watch guides/ streamer play throughs then actually play the games.
Millions more people watched that retard play bloodborne than actually bought the game.
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No one currently playing WoW has an IQ over 95.
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>>686752329
Everything you missed has retroactively been fucked up and censored to the point that the people who once had happy memories of the game only feel disgust and sadness at the things they enjoyed actively bring destroyed and deemed "wrong" in retrospect.
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>>686753710
Yeah, but like you said that Twitch retards who don't even play the game.

I'm talking about people who actually buy games and play them. I'm still not convinced that there are bunches of people who feel the need to do fucking homework on a game before actually playing it.
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>>686746490
The only reason to play it is so you'll understand why you shouldn't
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>>686747908
your first mistake was thinking XIVchads would defend the piece of shit that was DT
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>>686752465
Bro what? Ogres have been allied to the orcs forever. They were orc units in Warcraft 2 and 3 and several of the ogre tribes in WoW are allied to the orcs. The Brackenwall Stonemaul for example are completely integrated into the horde.
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>>686753625
Normies have limited time so they always look up guides and resources ahead of time to "ensure they maximize their fun" and have something to talk about at the water-cooler. They also need to make sure they have the "right" opinion, so they will watch video essays to satisfy the gap in their understanding which came from ignoring the story and having their hand-held while watching something else during play. Sound familiar? Glowniggers have modelled the new-normalfag after channers. It's why they're all addicted to phone. Glowniggers turned phone into 4chan-lite. Porn and gore, just scroll down.
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>>686740835
Mommy!
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>>686754006
>I don't have time to play a video game
>But I do have time to read guides and watch video essays on video games
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WoW is more like a party game where the static and lifeless "world" is the lobby/chatroom from which the players queue up for a series of minigames that are the real game. There's the battleground minigame, arena minigame, dungeon minigame, raid minigame and so on.
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>>686750220
>rely on decades old characters like Illidan
legion was 8 years ago, anon
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>>686745620
They would never because being able to actually be an evil bastard like warcraft used to let you be is way way too cool for nu-blizzard
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>>686753552
>normal gameplay
>getting retard points for trying without any need for success

Kekbur. Can't believe what kind of people plays this rotting corpse of a game.
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>>686754128
You can't play WoW while going to work or sitting at work.
I can listen to a 4 hour spergout about Elder Scrolls lore though
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>>686754128
You’re trying to refute him but he’s right and that’s how retarded normies really are
>I don’t have time for video games!
>spends 6 hours a day on Netflix
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>>686753794
I mainly feel disgust at the addicts that keep propping up the corpse of a once great game.
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>>686740647
so what is the xpack even about? and why haven't they done the emerald dream yet.
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>>686751410
>20 year old game vs 14/11 year old game
it's a mystery
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>>686754128
Yes. "Having a job" is a hell of a drug. It ruins your understanding of "free time" and value. These people watch such videos during 10 minute breaks, 30 minute breaks, 1 hour breaks, just got home from work and don't feel like gaming but maybe i'll watch something while I eat before bed -breaks. It kills the imagination and spirit which is where gaming resides.
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>>686754383
About Khadgar jobbing again, Xylvanas and "representation" in the form of a nigga pally without an arm who handholds bitchmade Anduin because even though he has both arms, he refuses to use either.
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>wow used to be good
was "kill 20 smegma dogs" or "fetch me 5 girdles" type quests for 100s of hours between real content really that great?
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>>686754383
Because the Emerald Dream isn't an interesting enough location to support an entire expansion's worth of content
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>>686754128
Did you know that according to studies of internet use, normies spend around three hours of their day doing nothing except replying to social media, posting on social media and watching youtube videos that tell them about the latest manufactured outrage?
These people are too mentally exhausted to play anything that requires critical thought or engagement and it's really no wonder. So they end up seeing video games as a chore, because it's a popular hobby and you got have a hobby, they just don't want to have to actually invest the time in it when they have so much shit that needs replying to and videos to watch.
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>>686754594
Compared to what preceded it, yes
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>>686754705
that's the wagie life, baby
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>>686746306
Far more people have played and quit the game than still play today; it's just a numbers thing.
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>>686754353
6 hours which is really 4 or less, doesn't feel worth it to start up a game especially when you're tired
fuck wage cucking, i implore all anon's to get out as soon a possible
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>>686754210
Didn't they tease this expansion with some allusions to Illidan?
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>>68675438
We literally just did the emerald dream bozo. This expac is the first act of a trilogy. So far we travel to a new land to investigate a mysterious psychic call, the same call heard by the ethereal before their world was destroyed by the void. Upon arrival void entity xalatath ambushes us destroying dalaran. We spend the expac attempting to chase down xalatath and encountering the local earthen culture and helping an expedition of the ararhi empire survive against nerubians controlled by xalatath. Anduin and magni confront their doubts. alleria goes on a rampage. Thrall and jaina fuck off
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>>686755337
>This expac is the first act of a trilogy
So you're going to have to look at that absolutely disgusting broccoli hair cripple negro for two more expansions??

L M A O
M
A
O A M L
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>>686746306
Back when I was playing it, it was the most normiecore game of all. There very few fetishists coomers or queers playing. There were a lot of young moms and dads, it was like a facebook video game with elves. There were "hardcore" players but they mostly sticked to themselves. There were a lot of normie young girls as well, it wasn't strictly a stigmatized neckbeard hobby.
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so what's the patch cycle looking like? an x.1 patch sometime next year and then "Midnight" the year after?
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>>686755434
Doubt it. She doesn’t even show up until halfway through the leveling and is only associated with one of the factions. She will probably be back we we go to arathi empire proper 3 expansions from now but wont do much till then after tww. She also doesn’t behave like a sheboon nigress at all despite the unfortunate design and sounds like a earnest British girl
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>pay for early access in next expansion
when was this a thing?
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>>686755598
Patches every 8 weeks with major patches every third patch. So 11.1 around February, 11.2 aug 25 and midnight feb 26
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>>686755337
>destroys Dalaran

I'm so fucking tired of them reusing previous story beats. Also, Dalaran in WoTLK was beautiful. Those subhumans are destroying everything the original guys have done, piece by piece. Killing off original characters, making them look stupid before doing so. Destroying cities like Undercity or Teldrassil (I loved the design of that tree).
I could never support people who shit on someone's legacy.
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>>686750135
You sound like a massive faggot, holy shit!
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>>686755997
Like you said dalaran had been destroyed before and it will be rebuilt again. I’m not aware of any character being killed off and metzen even said no one would die in the interview he just did. Metzen is also the one who decides Dalaran would be blown up so not sure whose legacy he is shitting on
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>>686755337
>>686755997
>destroying dalaran
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>>686740647
>buy the game
>buy subscription
>buy expansions
>buy exclusive mounts
>buy the new, smaller expansions for twice the price
blizzard and people who still play their shit really deserve each other
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>>686755434
I hope every one is $90, like this one. No, even more!
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>>686749685
>Jailer as a concept was fucking cool and based
>The Jailer as a figure was not a problem
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>>686755997
At this point the story and the world is so stale I would be interested if they would destroy something for real. Like Stormwind and Orgrimmar. Build a new interesting looking large city hub. Burn the past, let the fanboys cry. The Legion wasn't that bad in that sense, just a little too small. And that elven city it had (whatever its name was), with instances located inside that you actually had to travel yourself without the dungeon finder warping, it was good.
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>>686757350
>Burn the past, let the fanboys cry.
Hello Luna Xanderin
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>>686757785
who?
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>>686751773
> that was pulling the strings all along
That was fine the first time, it's not fine for the 14th time
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>>686751410
>>686754417
It's not true though, environments in FFXIV still look like bland dogshit, it's just that the artstyle for models is vastly superior.
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WoW has been killed by Blizzard and their dumbfuck decisions.

>retail has been a joke for many expansions
>Sneedolands was just the nail in the coffin with Blizzard openly shitting up their entire lore
>at the same time they pander Classicfags at every given opportunity
>classic servers
>classic SoD
>classic TBC/WOTLK/CATA
>classic hardcore

Who in their right mind still considers retail the actual main WoW? Not even Blizzard is doing it so why should you?
Everyone is only talking about classic and its own 100 different versions and you don't need to buy a new expansion every year to keep playing Classic.
No surprise player and twitch numbers are lower than ever before.
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She's going to be the villain of the next expansion right?
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>>686757916
XIV looks beautiful compared to the ugly cartoon shit WoW has for areas
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>>686757916
What's wrong with the zones?
Just not cartoony enough or something?
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>>686758423
To be fair I still haven't reached Dawntrail (resubbed some days ago and still going through EW post-patch content).
Zones in FFXIV always looked like utter dogshit to me, Shadowbringers was maybe the worst point, meanwhile areas in Shadowlands were still kind of pretty.

That does indeed look good.
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>>686758624
>Shadowbringers was maybe the worst point
>meanwhile areas in Shadowlands were still kind of pretty
oh okay, we're dealing with a no taste nancy
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>>686746490
absolutely PEAK character designs
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>>686758036
Supply and demand.
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>>686758758
>>>meanwhile areas in Shadowlands were still kind of pretty
yeah i really miss vomit and piss land aka maldraxxus
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>>686740647
this was most retarded direction ever. we finally FINALLY get rid of dumbass serving bitch Sylvanas after like four expacks and whats the next course of action ? Fucking Sylvanas 2.1 !! who the fuck thought made this, though its good idea and approved it??
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>>686758758
Dumb cultist.
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>>686758071
Imagine the futa cock.
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>>686746490
There's literally no reason to play WoW in 2024 unless you're already an addict
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>>686758071
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6vy5L8y7x4&t=8s
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>>686758945
ironic
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>>686758939
Lmao. It's more like Sylvanas 6.0 at this point. Shitzzard is such a shitty one-trick company.
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>>686758423
>you get something that looks kind of decent 100 hours in
Meanwhile, if you start the game you get bland, generic JRPG areas with bland, generic JRPG music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2MZ-67Zwd0
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>>686755434
hope they find way to killer her (heroically) asap
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>>686759218
Meanwhile, if you start the game you get bland, generic fantasy areas with bland, generic fantasy music
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>>686759218
lmao you wanna compare the zones blizzard made two decades ago too?
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>>686759218
The Dark Shroud BGM is cool though.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=xCIMTIyUuFc
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God she is soo fucking hot. I aint even a foot faggot but somehow she makes them hot
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>>686759391
shame about the man face in the promotional art
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>>686759391
Canines too small, for them both.
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>>686758423
If you go for realism eventually you will end up with a boring life like empty area. Boring and depressive, like your life. Wow, a desert. Travel to an irl desert and have a picnic or something. Alone. Lots of fun huh.
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>>686759423
Yeah cinematics department also dropped the ball hard. In game the characters look way more cute and better. The black girl got the worst of it. She looks like a literal orc in it while in game she looks alright. Get rid of her dumb haircut and she is actually kinda cute.
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>>686759468
ironic
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>>686759328
Sure, we can compare zones Blizzard made decades ago.

Let's talk about La Noscea. It's supposed to be a pirate cove type area. And what does it's music sound like?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2MZ-67Zwd0

And the pirate cove in question?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7ForHMX-xs

Compare that to a similar area from WoW.
The choking jungles of Stranglethorn Vale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fWeZxI2SDQ

And the theme of the pirate cove
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esd3EcxQho4
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>>686759321
>>686759328
>>686759557
Vgh... the soul...
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>>686759521
also we have yet to find whose nigger insert this is
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>>686759468
Damn too bad Arizona is the only zone in the game....
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>>686759620
Its honestly just the white devs who are pushing this.
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>>686759562
all this does is remind me how ungodly boring questing is in both games and how glad i am it's not a required part of XIV aside from the VN MSQ that mostly drops the old questing design
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>>686759779
The main story bullshit is the worst part. Just play a single player game for the love of Christ.
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>>686759852
if you really don't care about the story despite being a major part of the game, skipping everything makes it go by pretty fast
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>>686759983
It shouldn't be in the game at all. It's like putting alien spaceships in a Lord of the Rings game, and then pointing out that you can just ignore the spaceships. It's antithetical to what the whole genre is supposed to be about, but that's the state of modern MMORPGs for you.
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>>686759562
>two intense, memorable soundtracks that clearly gives the listener (if they're not a retard) the impression they're not just dealing with a rabble of pirates but an organised seafaring nation
>generic jungle ambienceshit, clearly only exists there just so the zone doesn't have deafening silence, carefully cherrypicked to avoid the other vanilla soundtracks that get recycled across several zones,
>pirates of the caribbean slop theme that only plays inside a shack without any reason to stay inside for more than 5 minutes, absolutely no similarity to the previous soundtrack which makes it feel disjointed
uuuh i accept your concession i guess?
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>>686759521
>the good black paladin woman will save the good guys
Sounds based. Was she raised baptist?
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>>686759562
>naval nation? must be pirates. britain? pirates. spain? pirates. greece? pirates. portugal? pirates. they stole and raped the Black man's resources after all
blizzard's brainwashing claims another one
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>>686760161
>that's the state of modern MMORPGs for you
most MMOs let you just not give a shit about the story and just have zero attachment to anything happening
XIV is a final fantasy before it's an MMO
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>>686759521
Can someone do and edit with an actual good haircut to see if it's even mildly improved?
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>>686752329
>posts pedo mods from Sims
Looks like your parents didn't beat you hard enough
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>>686760338
Limsa Lominsa is very specifically a nation founded by several gangs pirates, corsairs, profiteers banding together.
Like, this is a point explicitly made in the game itself.
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>>686759391
>cum inside alleria
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>>686740647
Jesus fuck it's been almost 20 years why haven't they killed WOW yet and make a sequel?
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>>686759562
What's your point? The wow tracks sound better.
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>>686760574
that is his point
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>>686760174
>Generic "epic" JRPG music that does absolutely nothing to set the tone or the vibe of the area its playing in beyond being vaguely "epic" and "adventurous" sounding
I know that most FFXIV players love slop and demand slop, but I thought they would at least understand what the purpose of music is in a video game like this.
>Music that works to set the vibe of a steaming, choking, dangerous jungle
>Music that sets the vibe of being in a pirate cove
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>>686760530
because then i'll lose all my transmogs and mounts and toys and whatever other bullshit!
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>>686760435
i wouldn't know because i haven't played XIV but the architecture clearly shows they have evolved their civilisation beyond "bandits... but in water!" living in repurposed shipwrecks, tents, shacks and miscellaneous types of slums like they do in WoW so why shouldn't their music also be more majestic?
this shit is what Kul Tiras should have been not the "haha pirates = poor bandits :)))) wouldn't it be funny if their ships looked better than their houses" slop that blizzard fed to us in BfA
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>>686760691
your "pirate cove" music is tavern music that only plays inside the booty bay in
you don't play WoW, why are you defending it for free?
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>>686758842
Nosferatu.
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>>686760781
What expansion is this from? It looks interesting. I bet it's fucking boring and cringy lore and dialogue wise.
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>>686760838
I'm not defending WoW. I'm attacking FFXIV.

WoW is a fallen game. FFXIV was born slop and is loved by slop-lovers.
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>>686760781
kul tiras is such a piece of shit area to move around in
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>>686760781
They still act very much like pirates and corsairs.
>but muh architecture
It's generic "woah impossible buildings!" Final Fantasy shit. The game itself never accounts for it and still basically treats the inhabitants as just barely reformed former pirates and corsairs.
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>>686760901
it's the one that officially started the current era of shit WoW is going through
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I fucking love her soo much bro's
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>>686760901
Battle for Azeroth.
No it's not interesting, it's comically one-note. The civilization is naval so that means they are UTTERLY OBSESSED with naval themes to the point of comedy. The city is also fucking dogshit, everything of interest to the player is gathered in one corner - which, admittedly, is better than what the Horde got, where half the interesting shit was in one corner of the city and the other half was in the literal other end of the city.
Also the premise of the expansion was interesting (back to horde vs alliance roots) but it turned out to be a lie, the actual story (turns out.... le old gods!) was utter dogshit and finally got me to quit the game.
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>>686760963
Still better then what horde got in BFA
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>>686761102
her hatefucking the retard elf
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lil sis still pretending wow is dead
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>>686740835
Blizzard made knaifu real
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I actually enjoy TWW.
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>>686761042
>They still act very much like pirates and corsairs.
Limsa Lominsa? How? The areas you explore in the game includes farmland, more farmland, a harbor, a beach resort next to a jungle, a Garlean outpost, another harbor next to a giant lightouse, old ruins, old floating ruins, and a volcano filled with Kobolds
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>>686761214
>pretending wow is dead
>/wowg/ empty as fuck on release
>lowest twitch numbers yet
it's not looking good, sis
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Amerimutts shouldn't be allowed to make games anymore, niggers and ugly women everywhere. Just leave it to the Koreans and chinks and yurop
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>>686761042
impossible buildings are infinitely more interesting than alliance's generic fantasy castles for the 5000th time. or are you a mudhut enjoyer?
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>>686761042
>treats the inhabitants as just barely reformed former pirates and corsairs
damn son, imagine outing yourself this hard
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>>686761323
yurop got us Dustborn. funded by taxpayer dollars.
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>>686761323
you forgot the eternal kings of vidya
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>>686740647
i might still buy it for the gameplay

>>686760530
they're as conservative in design as possible now
too bad it's all ruined by furries and shitty californian idpol garbage
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>>686761272
Yes, and every questline involving those things is "The lads here all used to be savage corsairs and they're having trouble adjusting to peaceful farm life!"
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>>686761449
>the gameplay
oh boy, the same dogshit questing you've done for 20 years until you just raid and m+
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>>686761557
yeah. don't fix what isn't broken.
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>>686761557
Raid and m+ is fun tho
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>>686761472
I wouldn't be expecting pirate music then when I'm helping the former pirates to grow lemons
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Give me a good reason why I shouldn't just have a local private server for vanilla WoW and Wrath of the Lich King WoW for when the urge to play WoW hits me? Everything after cataclysm just seems like a disaster
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>>686761612
nothing says farming lemons like intense orchestral music
xivfags are so dishonest it's unreal
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>>686761557
m+ is fun
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>Story is 6-7/10 compared to dragonflights 4-5/10
>Gameplay/Systems are a direct upgrade from DF which were a direct upgrade from every other expansion
>Artstyle/Theme is more interesting that DF by far
I dunno man It's pretty good so far. Even that weird DEI character is pretty decent as an actual character outside of their appearance.
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Hero Academia has a better ending than WoW
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>>686761716
you should play a real single player game instead of the skinnerbox simulator that is playing WoW without any other people
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>>686761790
WoW doesn't have an ending and will likely never have an ending for decades to come (yes decades, no matter how hard xivtroons cope) so you are technically correct.
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>choosing your faction used to mean you get a vastly different storyline which only occasionally intersected with the opposing factions narrative
>playing horde or alliance was so different that faction choice was a divisive thing and most would stick to one or the other

>wow factions now barely exist and the horde and alliance is practically the same thing always having to "band together to beat the big bad" over and over while the devs keep trying to create a paper thin veneer of animosity to give the illusion that your faction choice means fucking anything now

Can you imagine a fanboy screaming "For the horde" in 2024 like there's something to be proud of?
It is BEYOND over.
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I really don't understand how FFXIV fags show early areas like it's something to boast about. That game is horrible until the expansions. If you want to shill FFXIV, then show Shadowbringers or something. This is where it gets good. The starting areas of Wow, especially the ones before the Cataclysm are soulful and comfy as fuck.
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WoW was never good, it cruises purely off of misplaced nostalgia and stockholm syndrome
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>>686761901
it was a WoWfag posting limsa
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>>686761732
>intense orchestral music
I know it might sound intense to someone who is used to WoW where the music is rather muted even in boss fights, but the music in the zones is like a 2 in the intensity scale compared to the boss fights.
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>>686761893
The game doesn't have enough players to split every server's population in two and people constantly complained about [other faction] favoritism (at the same time, on the same things) so nu-WoW being Alliance and Red Alliance is ultimately better for the game's health.
Unironically.
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>>686761338
Is this your first Final Fantasy game? Squeenix does this shit all the time. At least old Blizzard tried to be thematic with their zones. Squeenix just threw in one of their generic impossible city shits with basically no regard for theme.
>>686761360
That's literally how they're described in the quests.
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>>686761893
There is no longer Alliance or Horde since they introduced cross faction guilds & raiding in Dragonflight.
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>>686761987
I hate choire singing music in WoW. One of the reasons to reroll horde.
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>>686762157
>At least old Blizzard tried to be thematic with their zones.
Ah yes, nothing says "thematic" like slapping down a generic fantasy castle in an alien landscape with blue grass and purple trees.
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>>686762219
>use garrison hearthstone
>UNGA CHUNGA BUNGA DUNGA
https://youtu.be/kDOk7z10uac
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>>686762157
>That's literally how they're described in the quests.
Except that's wrong, the most you have is one faction that clings to the old ways and gets resolved in endwalker
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>>686762243
The upscaled barracks and towers from Warcraft 3 were cool in vanilla.

>>686762305
Yeah, that too. The marching gorilla march, everywhere. The fucking battleground victory theme. Compare with the victory screen music from Warcraft 2. The Horde had the best music in Wc2.
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>>686761612
I would expect music that's tailored to the area to help show its general vibe.

I'll give you more examples.

Dun Morough is cold and isolated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoZa2KSm6w0

Teldrassil is enchanted and full of life, but also mysterious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgdgaDlgUzw

The Tirisfal Glades are dark and haunted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoIIlbUpYtE
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Wow died at WOTLK
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>>686740647
Love me the dommy goth elf mommy expansion
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>>686762157
>>686762243
It's undeniable to me that the zones in World of Warcraft were always superior to FFXIV, in expression in vibrancy, in look, in the feel and just overall setting.
But if you're still saying that now, you're huffing copium. TWW released with 4 zones Dawntrail released with 6 and on top of that DT's zones now are superior to those on offer from WoW.
Go and compare the zones from The War Within against Dawntrail.
Both are the latest expansions so we can get a look to see where both companies are right now not where they were ten years ago on their ability to create zones.
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>>686762243
I don't know what the fuck that is and don't recognize it, but it looks like post-Catacysm trash so I won't defend it.
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>>686760901
It's from BFA, an expansion that had top notch environmental design. Unfortunately the expansion had so many poor decisions about excessive systems that at least one of the designers responsible was chased out of the company (and ended up at Riot). The story was also complete nonsensical vomit. The environment design was still S tier.
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>>686762596
>post-Catacysm
so you're ok with discussing how blizzard took a big steaming shit all over the two original continents and they continue to be covered in said shit over a decade later?
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>>686762640
>junkyard zone
>top notch environmental design
????????
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>>686762674
Yes, but that doesn't mean I'm going to praise FFXIV slop. Just because modern Blizzard is ass doesn't mean FFXIV is any less slop.
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>>686761102
The cinematic department at Blizzard used to make such a hot catoony female faces, with full lips and big eyes and all, now they do manfaces, like everyone else. I mean, not as bad as everyone else, but it's definitely getting worse.
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>>686740647
Haven't played since Legion, do shadow priests get unique dialogue with her in this new expansion?
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>>686762798
>modern Blizzard
You said post-cataclysm one post ago. Put those fucking goalposts down.
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>>686762771
It was great, first use of the chasing rares mechanism before it became overused and tired, lots of interesting mounts, good art design in general
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>>686762563
Yeah that was my opinion as well, Kholusia's brown vomit stood in my mind as the standard for FFXIV world design.
If that has changed with the new expansions is something i'll find out I guess.
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>>686762798
XIV is less slop by pure virtue of mostly dumping the "kill 20 faggots" quests
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Not playing.
Who dies or gets corrupted?
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>>686763032
khadgar
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>>686762971
And replaced it with "kill 3 faggots" or "go talk to this faggot."

You know, I actually kind of enjoy killing some faggots instead of just running around.
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>>686762954
>first use of the chasing rares mechanism before it became overused and tired
it was already overused and tired in tanaan jungle. hell, it was already overused and tired in fucking timeless isle because if you weren't camping something 24/7 it would spawn and die the SECOND you left because the island took like half an hour to traverse, combined with the abysmal drop rates on any special loot
timeless isle clones are DOGSHIT
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>>686763117
funny you should say that
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what EVIL stuff has she actually done tho

>she told an evil spider to kill her evil mother

You know that doesn't count. Enemy of my enemy. What has she done to fuck over the horde/alliance?
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>>686763060
>i enjoy slop gameplay
i know
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>>686763173
blow up dalaran
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>>686761418
THE CURSE IS LIFTED.
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>>686763242
>i play videogames to read
shut the fuck up
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>>686763278
does anyone care about dalaran? forced pacifistic cross-faction hub cities are always worse than faction capitals
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>>686763341
Most American post ITT
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>>686763341
i play an MMO to engage with the mechanics, not mindlessly kill a bunch of worthless mobs so i can move on to killing more worthless mobs
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>>686763396
lmao
no wonder you yuropooreans use your tax payers dollars to fund garbage like Dustborn
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>>686763501
so far
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>>686763117
Zoom zoom!
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>>686762971
Try playing FFXIV from level 1 lmao. It's even worse than wow before the expansions.
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>>686761612
>>686762518 (me)
So, to help you out a bit here, I would expect "peaceful farmland" to have a track that's something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL_3mlOPnGI

or this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtxdaAui4tw

or maybe even something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUTliqsMZ0g

Something to set the vibe. Not generic JRPG orchestral music.
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>>686763332
Princess frog.
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>>686763770
it really isn't, even ARR doesn't suffer as bad from that shitty questing system unlike every single moment of WoW
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>>686740647
>>686740835
Reminder that Blizzard made this bitch face based on >pic
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>>686763909
Face blindness could be a sign of autism, you might want to get that checked.
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>>686763770
ARR at least has an attempt at a coherent storyline, you have no fucking clue what is going on starting WoW from level 1
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why did they take flying away but then make you do a boring achievement involving non-fun activities to get it back?
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>>686763770
I'm literally replaying it right now to practice Japanese.
Beginning of FFXIV is indistinguishable from classic WoW: a lot of fetch quests and kill 0/X mobs, only that you're completely handheld through the MSQ questline that has a cohesive plot and story, presents the world and characters to you, so there's no chance to get lost or confused.

I played a new character on retail WoW some months ago and it was an absolute clusterfuck, I jumped from expansion content to expansion content without knowing when was I.
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>>686763445
reading text dumps is not engaging in mechanics
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>>686763909
I am not surprised, the reveal thread had people calling that out and when people started to notice the shill battalion like this blizzdrone ever here >>686764009 losing his shit and calling people autists.
But then these are the same people who justifies eating shit all times and call other people poor for not playing their garbage and eating blizzard's corn ridden shit.
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>>686763798
I think you've been brainfucked by movies into thinking farms mean shire music and can't distinguish between orchestral music in andante maestoso and orchestral music in allegro giocoso
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>>686764078
>I'm literally replaying it right now to practice Japanese.
being this much of a retarded weeb already disqualifies anything you had to say
>I jumped from expansion content to expansion content without knowing when was I.
the only way youre changing expansion is to leave the expansion youre actively in, go to chromie and request to change to a different one
None of this would happen without you knowing
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>>686763445
Combat IS engaging with the mechanics.

The secret is that you actually need to make combat with the open world enemies somewhat challenging and engaging. A completely alien concept in today's modern MMO industry!
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>>686764208
>like this blizzdrone ever here
It's the same guy in every thread, you can tell by his obsession with the words 'troon' and 'tranny'
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>>686764067
>WoW was originally made for people who play WC3 to understand and immerse themselves in the setting. seeing characters you recognised felt great but not required because Classic barely had a story to begin with
>Modern WoW dumps you amidst a bunch of characters calling you Champion, there's zero chance you know about any of them because most of the context was FOMO content that is now permanently gone from the game
but at least WoW has the gameplay right?
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>>686764208
She has the most generic face, how exactly is she modeled after her you samefagging meme spouting underage cancer?
Can't wait for school to start soon so I have to see less of your sheepish posts repeating garbage you read on here because you zoomer faggots are too fucking stupid to think for yourselves.
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>>686764292
>the only way youre changing expansion is to leave the expansion youre actively in, go to chromie and request to change to a different one
You're not gonna gaslight me you faggot shill.
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>>686764248
>only watched the first video
I posted a variety for a reason.
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>>686764352
I haven't posted either of those words. Are you illiterate?
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>>686764072
everyone hated not having flying and it was one of the main reason subs cratered in WoD but Blizzard can't EVER admit that they were wrong about game design so they had a melty and added flying back but only as a heavily timegated achievement so that you could only fly after you've already done everything worth doing in the open world
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>>686764369
thats how it works, too bad your larp was completely made up
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>>686764358
WoW has really responsive combat, but the new player experience is absolute trash and nobody seems to care. If you don't welcome in new players, the game will slowly die, but everyone seems cool with that and milking addicts is easier
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>>686764352
Worse, the one who keeps sperging over XIV or even tried to kill the Bethesda generals at /v/ is a fucking furfag who is also the blacked orcspammer
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>>686740835
there are so many better female designs and you have to circlejerk over this safe horny sylvanas but void
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>>686764440
>everyone hated not having flying
I liked it
Its why Suramar worked in Legion and every expac since questing has sucked again, because flying ruins the game
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>>686764496
Same guy? hahahaha holy fuck
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>>686764536
I like both. New Alleria is pretty nice too.
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>>686764484
no amount of coddling from Blizzard will fix the average player going "HOW THE FUCK DON'T YOU KNOW THIS CONTENT BY HEART IT'S BEEN OUT FOR A DECADE" and kicking genuine newfags
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>Blizzdrone is now using "DEM SUMMER KIDS" to cope because people are calling blizzard out
Eating subscribed piggy shit must be good
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>>686764561
>literal retarded believes anything he reads on the internet
>>686764496
>everyone who disagrees with me is 1 person
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>>686746306
Anon, Shadowlands purged basically the last few peoople with a mote of dignity.
All that's left now are the literal mindbroken tranny addicts that will never ever leave. Small wonder that they are also completely deranged and cultlike.
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>>686764067
It doesn't help that they cut out important questlines from lvl 1 to 60 in WoW with the Cataclysm expansion.
Want to know who Onyxia was and how she used the Defias Brotherhood, The Dark Horde, the Black Dragon Flight, and imprisoning the King to bring down the Alliance? Fuck you
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>>686764536
>safe horny
her feet are bare
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>>686764484
You have an absolute retard in this very thread going "dude it doesn't matter you have to go to this character to pick which outdated content you want to play how can you be confused are you retarded?"

They have an almost Pavlovian response to eating shit, since they've been doing it for more than 10 years.
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>>686752583
We still don't even know what The Jailer was actually trying to do.
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>>686764604
Remove the kick function, Rainbow Six Siege did it years ago because their sped playerbase wouldn't stop being total shitheads and bullying new players either. Yes, removing kick causes problems of its own, but nowhere near the issues by leaving it in
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>>686764637
Stupid fucking phoneposting nigger, all I said about the game is that the elf bitch is hot. I don't give a shit about your garbage MMO.
Learn to fucking read or better yet kill yourself. You are the cancer killing this website.
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>>686764646
>Literal retard is tearing his butthole off because his company was finally exposed as garbage
many such cases
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>>686764649
>we're not the cult YOU ARE THE CULT
The XIV can't meme.
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>>686764646
I've seen you in every thread this weekend, you write the same way each time and give yourself away, you aren't fooling anyone
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>>686764598
I prefer my elves without dyke cuts and more developed features than those of a teenager.
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>>686764653
Nothing about Onyxia is important
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Thank God that KYM at least saved this gem
it fits with the blizdrones shilling these days and the fact that SWTOR is still alive after they tried to kill it.
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>>686763161
>Character is clearly an incompetent moron but was somehow deemed worthy of not just godhood, but overseeing the fates of every mortal soul that enters the afterlife
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>>686764653
You don't like all the pop culture SO RANDUM meme quests they replaced them with? You actually prefer to know about the lore of the world? Not the target customer for modern WoW, sorry
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>>686764750
blizzdrone is a term that is literally decades old by this point. and yeah, wowtrannies are a cult
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>>686764692
>cant actually answer what the issues is, just keeps screaming its bad because its bad
low IQ
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>>686764818
Teenagers are the epitome of sex you limp dick faggot.
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>>686764692
>The only thing that matters is muh esports endgame anyway, who cares about the story or the world?
>What do you mean you don't watch MDI and RWF?
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>>686760415
I see you are intimately familiar with it, to the point you can recognize a small, cropped image from it. I wonder why that is?
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>>686764901
women that look like 4/10 teenagers with melty pixar faces, dyke cuts and schnozzes are not
get some taste for once in your homosexual life
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>>686763161
Dr. Manhattan? He's a tranny now?
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>>686764948
NTA
Choker makes it obvious, and im sure the pedos spammed every Sims thread with their shitty mod the same way pedos spam every stardew valley thread
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>>686750303
>>686764649
seriously. you have to only slightly poke at a wowfag and he either retreats to his safe space or melts down and loses his grip on reality
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>>686764987
Looks fine ingame.
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>>686764891
Remember when these fags flooded every fucking DOTA 2 thread over HOTS being the "Dota and LOL killer??
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>>686751198
Isn't he like still in his teens?
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>>686762954
Isn't this the automatic assfucking and dildo sucking wheel?
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>>686765059
On some level they too know the game is bad and feel a deep shame for being unable to stop playing it, which is why the retaliation is so over-the-top
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>>686765130
he is in his 20's by now
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>>686753396
You don't even know what you are saying or what you are complaining about.
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>>686765083
oh, they love being on the side that dishes it out, but they cry and throw a colossal bitchfit when everyone is rightfully mocking and laughing at them
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>>686764824
She was important in Vanilla WoW and the instigator for basically everything that happens in the Eastern Kingdoms, but yes, in modern WoW I guess she doesn't matter anymore, even if that leaves big holes in the storyline for several areas in the vanilla zones
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>>686764714
this is some extreme projection
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>>686762954
>>686765151
Yes IT is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGKR1Z1lRik
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>>686765163
good. i hope they feel shame. they should. they're up there with nintendofags and i'm pretty sure at this point they're considerably worse than bethesdafags when it comes to shit eating, praising their company for the shit and having an unhinged meltdown when people call them or the company they fanboy out for that shit
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These threads were a lot more fun and less shitty yesterday
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>>686764987
She looks cute and sexy you fat gay retard. Fuck off to your dead tranny visual novel
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>>686765237
But enough talking about (you)

>>686765282
You know what is funny in this?
ESO's newest expansion was MEH at least since the turtle left, but the lore and shit in it wasn't bad.
TWW and Dawntrail managed to be worse thanks to trannies and ESG DEI in your face all times and not being subtle about it.
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>>686765220
>She was important in Vanilla WoW and the instigator for basically everything that happens in the Eastern Kingdoms, but yes, in modern WoW I guess she doesn't matter anymore
she wasnt relevant in anything outside EK and anything past BWL
>even if that leaves big holes in the storyline for several areas in the vanilla zones
it doesnt leave any hole, the zones are all past the Onyxia storyline and she has 0 lasting impact
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>>686765452
>n-no you
this doesnt work when only 1 person here is dumb enough to believe random /v/ screenshots, and thats you
doubling down every time only makes it more obvious youre just seething about WoWs unending superiority
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>>686765370
I saw Skyrim High Elf Characters looking better than her, and it is the most mediocre waifus at /tesg/ and nexus main page.
Try again WOWtranny, she looks like a dyke with that haircut and androgynous look
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>>686765590
>actual modtranny cope
lmfao
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>>686761910
>being this retarded

When WoW released, it was the biggest thing ever. We all wanted to see the mysterious lands our favorite heroes fighted for. You zoomers can't even imagine what was it like setting first steps into the world and seeing how massive and full of things to do it was. There was no datamining on the scale as it is today, so we all pretty much started blind. I had used thottbot many times to look for quest-related stuff, as back then there was no quest marking areas and the addons were only getting developed. It was a mysterious, huge world for us. I think I spent tons of time just walking around, enjoying the zone music and discovering new places.
There won't be anything like Vanilla WoW in a long time.
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>>686765370
I hate that this face reminds me of some ugly white bitch from real life but I can't remember who it is.
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>>686765587
>>686765670
>WoW's superiority
reminder that this furfag flooded all of /wowg/ for months trying to make it into a fork of MMO-Champion
and it failed hard because the spergs there who already hateplays the game and shits blizzard on a regular basis told him to fuck off
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>>686740647
KWADTG

(kek what a dead tranny game)
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>>686765670
anon, you're trying too hard. alleria as the base model is attractive because she's still using a blood elf model. which was designed to be appealing. the undercut dyke hair style is not attractive nor the Im-12-what-is-makeup effect of the eyeshadow either.

if you want a modern attempt, look at the dracthyr visages. those are fucking hideous.
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someone who actually play the game can tell me If Its good or bad ?
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The world has decided.
The War Within is certified kino and an example of WoW's undeniably superiority. It even converted TrannyFantasy ecelebs.
And it's only the beginning. Midnight and The Last Titan are going to be even more legendary. This train cannot be stopped no matter how hard you xivtrannies dilate.
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>>686765748
>You zoomers can't even imagine what was it like setting first steps into the world and seeing how massive and full of things to do it was.
it wasnt full of things to do though
Objectively, there are a ton of barren as fuck zones. Blatantly incomplete. Very little side content
>I think I spent tons of time just walking around, enjoying the zone music and discovering new places.
you can do this in every MMO and every version of WoW
Nothing about vanilla encouraged or rewarded it, in fact the complete lack of shit to find means you were just wasting your time
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>>686765830
>delete, then undelete the character
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>>686765370
>Retail Wow fan stans the objective downgrade like his job depends on it
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>>686765921
It's more of the same.
More of the same shitty storytelling.
More of the same quest objectives.
More of the same vapid mogsmountscheevos farm.
More of the m+ farming.
More of the endgame being number go up.
If you liked Dragonflight, you'll like The War Within as well.
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>>686765761
>doubling down on "anyone who calls out my cope is one person"
this level of delusion is unhealthy
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>>686764496
Foxxo is basically CC level autist, complete with being a furshitter (literally, he’s into diapers)
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>>686766003
God, they ruined her. Why do they just keep ruining women? You know it's fucking dire when the cutest female character with a new model is a fucking dwarf.
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>>686764646
He tried this strategy in /wowg/ too and it didn’t work there hence him being in /v/

You write the same shit every thread, it’s really obvious its you
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>>686765926
>this shit coming from a schizo who took down all his WoW merch to replace it with XIV merch to replace with more WoW merch
WoWfags are so desperate for validation they advocate for literal con men to shill the game for them.
TOTAL GRIFTER DEATH
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>>686749085
B-but I was doing this to avoid [ NEW BIG BADDIE THAT WILL BE REVEALED IN 10 YERAS ], I was just a pawn on his massive game, sob sob...
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>>686765926
How long until he has another melty on stream then beats his wife off stream?
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>>686758842
that shit is nightmare fuel
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>>686746306
being a furry is normal, just look at wukong
you're just bitter that times change and the world left you behind
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>>686765464
>it doesnt leave any hole, the zones are all past the Onyxia storyline and she has 0 lasting impact
Unless you want to know the origins of the Defias brotherhood of course, why are the Gnolls, blackrock clan and black dragon flight raiding the redridge mountains, how did she end up in Kalimdor, what happened to Varian Wrynn.
But of course modern WoW fans don't care about background lore, they just want to poopsock raid and get a random chance to possibly not get fucked by RNG loot systems
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>>686766280
SNRRRK
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>>686766297
>streamers say that game is shit and awful
>suddenly it's good again and devs are actually listening
>then it becomes shit again until new expansion is about to come and everything is suddenly good again and devs are listening
How many times they have done this?
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>>686765748
Anon i am old as shit and i survived Ultima Online 2's cancellation after history channel made a documentary about the game.
WoW ONLY became relevant because Gaming Journos shilled this game like a motherfucker, G4TV the literal example of normalfag shilled it hard and SWG and Everquest 2 bombed hard due to sheer incompetence, and Guess who worked in those games? J. Allen Brack and now Holly

WOW is where at is thanks to shills, but 2006 was the year blizzard had a meltdown over fucking Oblivion and Crysis shitting on their plate for MONTHS all the way into early TBC progression, all thank to oblivion's mod tools and the Crysis fever.

Since then blizzard went on to sabotage every other fucking game because this traumatized them hard
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>>686766318
uhm sweaty she's not as ugly as the cinematic model and she's not a butchdyke that tells anduin to check his privilege before scissoring alleria with a neovagina so basically she's like.. VERY CUTE AND NOT AT ALL BAD
PLEASE BELIEVE ME SHES NOT BAD WE ALL LOVE HER SHES A /v/ CERTIFIED WAIFU
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>>686766476
not enough for the average blizzcattle to notice
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>>686746306
Censorship. The subreddit is ran by troons and anyone that is normal gets downvoted and banned
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>>686766537
>WoW is such a cultural sensation it buckbroke not only XIV but also several completely unrelated genres
you love to see it
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>>686766476
So long as it works and fools wowbucks, they'll keep doing it.
(It will always work.)
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>>686765926
>it was crafted with intentionality
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it's so much fun to shit down blizzdrones necks while they cry about their 2/10 expansion actually being the best expansion ever and all the detractors just being jealous haters
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>>686766476
I think Legion was the last one, the expansion was well received early, shitted on after they discovered how legendaries worked and fixed in the second patch and ended well, people were pissed of how Azerite Armor would function in the next expansion, already warning that would create a shitty system for players and that respecing azerite for gold was even more stupid.
All other expansions were the opposite, people losing faith on the end of an expansion and expecting a better experience on the next expansion.
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Here's your average shiteating blizzdrone
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>>686766297
>>686766750
>finally blizzard understand
>it finally feels like warcraft again
Does anyone have collection of these?
But yeah, I wonder what's next?
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>>686747908
any time some fagot makes one of these pictures for final fantasy its always some incomprehensible amalgamation of inside jokes that only you faggots would understand.
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>>686766419
Literally none of those are relevant
If you want to go way into backstory you have to play WC1-3 as well, but they arent relevant either. You dont need to know everything Alleria ever did, you just need to know what she did on Argus, which is clearly explained to new players
This isnt a modern WoW thing. This is a "30 year old franchise spanning 4 seperate games and supplemental comics/books" You couldnt get all the backstory in vanilla either
Oh and of course if you were horde in vanilla you got absolutely fuck all info on Ony

Nor will new players ever encounter Onyxia in the plot, so this is really just ex players strawmanning concerns that a character who is no longer plot relevant can be skipped by new players
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>>686765072
Hmm this dude usually is a foot fag with his drawings but this one is covered
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>>686766003
This Alleria was literally better and still looking like her old concept art.

>>686766280
KEKW

>>686766037
>NO U!
many such cases

>>686766693
>WoW being good
Artificial Shilling and a Southpark episode isn't a cultural sensation, is paid shilling seeing that vivendi was one of sony's arms at that time before Activision happened

I say this because the vice president of vivendi used to shitpost in a brazillian forum, and he was a huge horsefag.
Even back then people knew that the WoW shilling had a ton of paid marketing behind it.
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>>686767079
Footfags should be publicly executed you phone posting newfag nigger.
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>>686765926
Good. I hope all grifters jump to WoW for good.
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>>686767079
he makes people sub to his patreon for the feet
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even dawntrail was better than this shit.
my god
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>>686767110
>kekw
we have actual twitchkiddies posting ITT
the ABSOLUTE STATE of /v/
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>>686766982
>But yeah, I wonder what's next?
The art team really hit it out of the park, as they always do!
Dragonriding is flying done right!
Augmentation shows that Blizzard are really willing to shake things up and take risks!
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>>686767067
>If you want to go way into backstory you have to play WC1-3 as well
Not really, WoW introduced and explained to you everything from those games that became relevant through quests.
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>resubbed
>trying to level since i didn't play dragonflight at all
>constantly get whispers from old erp partners who want me to descend into depravity again
uh oh
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>>686767191
Why does she look like a man here
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>>686746490
let me guess
you need mor
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>>686765926
It's funny how this guy destroyed all his WoW memorabilia, then probably found out he has no marketable skills outside making slop wow-themed Youtube content, so had to come grovelling back pretending like the narrative team isn't still the same bed-shitting morons from Dragonflight, just so he doesn't starve and become homeless. WoW content creators made their own bed of humiliation, now they have to lie in it
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>>686766982
One could simply open Bellular's channel and see the endless grift.
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>>686766879
Legion was really nice, and I could even say that if you were an average Joe back then you were fine with random Legendaries like Shepuz or Prydaz being upgrades whenever you got them either the first time or with your alts.
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>>686767260
Pink Floyd's The Wallâ„¢
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>>686767191
same holy shit
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>>686764364
Blizzdrone meltdown lol
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>>686767201
The fact that artists can run a successful business off footfag money is extremely depressing
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>>686767209
Shit by XIV standards and shit by WoW standards are not the same thing.
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>>686767228
And yet you fags keeps using twitch views as a Cope to claim that the game is still good
When all of Twitch is simply paid viewbots
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https://www.twitch.tv/quin69/clip/FrozenTenaciousPastaHassanChop-fBDR5zHeHipXE7Vo

DOOMTITANS WINNING BIGLY
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>>686767376
Keep samefagging lol.
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>>686767468
TWW is a good expansion

https://x.com/N_Tys26/status/1827481079902814487
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>>686765031
JAS!
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>>686766205
Nah, they are desperate for money, its that simple, FF XIV are mostly spics/underages/poor trannies that don't give enough money to content creators, thats why its a failure in all streaming and content creators but a sucess as a game, meanwhile, WoW is the game where 30-40+ yo guys with no kids and with high income stay forever, so MMO retards will always come back to WoW because they can milk those retards with patreon/merch from WoW.
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>>686764484
most people who play wow dont give two shits about the story and blizzard just wants you to buy level boost they dont expect anyone to play all the way up to current stuff
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>>686740647
I thought that was cobson at a glance
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>>686767468
>blurry low res terrain of Isle of Dorn prominently visible in the distance
lmao
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>>686767292
How fucking retarded are blizztrannies
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>>686767468
i love how wowfags were all on this guys dick when he was shitting on xiv calling him a based chad
and now he's "some seething shit taste skill issue manlet who has no idea what he's talking about and needs to fuck off"
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>>686767510
OH NO NO NO NON NO NO NO SISSIES ???????

OUR RESPONSE??????????????
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>>686767468
That's a lot of anti-soul gas.
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>>686767510
>the blizzard employee is having fun in the blizzard game
are you really this stupid
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>>686767292
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
holy fuck how do they keep falling for it
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>>686767510
>corpo cuck that worked in blizz and loves to suck

VERSUS

>>686767468
MULTIPLE RANK 1 PALADIN IN ALMOST EVERY EXPAC


Make your choice, white man.
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>>686767067
>Nor will new players ever encounter Onyxia in the plot, so this is really just ex players strawmanning concerns that a character who is no longer plot relevant can be skipped by new players
modern wow fan ladies and gentlemen
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>>686767597
lil bro that was 3 years ago and people did it to shit on your dead game
everyone knows quin is an adhd clown, he can't play anything that isn't poe
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>>686767510
God I hate Pirate Software so fucking much
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>>686767732
COPE FAGGOT
when someone like him that went in with the intention of shitting on the game says that it's good, then you know you lost
BITCH
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>>686767510
who is this?
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>>686765927
Yeah, I see now you're disingenuous. The community is what sealed the deal and made it ideal. There's no fun in walking around an empty world, but back then it was full of life. I've found a guild with people from my country and the fun we had together raiding, me showing them exploration (was a big thing back then, even after they fixed wallwalking, walljumping still worked), you have no idea what you are talking about. I kinda feel sorry for you, full of spite for things you have never experienced as a young lad and never will.
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>>686767732
> Hi I'm Shaye, I'm a transman from southern california and the lead artist for Pirate Software!
WHAT
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>>686767468
Who cares about his opinion, Blizzard already got 20k USD from him on Diablo immortal and on this expac they got 100 dollars + 6M Wow Tokens.
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>>686767510
Literally a Blizzard employee.
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>>686767781
Some nepobaby who used to work for Blizzard because his father was one of the bigwigs.
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>>686767819
He's also a furry, just to complete the degeneracy sundae. The internet was a mistake
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>>686767241
>WoW introduced and explained to you everything from those games
no it didnt
>that became relevant
and onyxia isnt relevant, so your point is moot
WoW didnt touch on Theramore backstory with Jaina and Daelin until fucking MoP and BFA. If you didnt play old Warcraft games you would have no idea how relevant Theramore was
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>>686767876
So... then why do we care about what he says?
Just because he allegedly was planning to shit on it but had his mind changed and now he thinks it's the best thing ever?
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>>686767510
I would defend the company my dad worked for too tbqh
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>>686767774
He was paid to promote it you dullard, just the same as Asmongold and Sodapoppin, two guys who are on the record saying modern WoW is absolute trash, but suddenly have an unexpected change of opinion of expansion launch day, once the $20k payment hits their accounts
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>>686767960
>So... then why do we care about what he says?
We don't, only Twitter and Twitch niggers do.
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>>686755434
Honestly, shes not even as bad as I thought she'd be; miles better than "Talk to Wuk Lamat" simulator
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>>686768015
Fair enough. Thanks for informing me.
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>>686767292
Anduin looks like "just fuck my shit up" guy now.
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>>686767191
they grifters are always gonna flip flop between everything,it happens with fighting games,it happens with shooters,it will always happen
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>>686768014
>just the same as Asmongold and Sodapoppin
>2 old wow players that have played this game consistently for many years
bro people like them don't need to be paid, they always play wow
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>>686767791
>There's no fun in walking around an empty world
Right, so vanilla wasnt fun
>I've found a guild with people from my country and the fun we had together raiding, me showing them exploration (was a big thing back then, even after they fixed wallwalking, walljumping still worked)
You can still raid and clip out of bounds.
>I kinda feel sorry for you, full of spite for things you have never experienced as a young lad and never will.
Everything you described can be done in every version of the game. There is absolutely nothing special vanilla offered, and in fact the world had much less than it does now
You liked it because you were young. no clipping doesnt feel as exciting when youre 35 and balding.
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>>686767280
pyro came back to wow because he burned any good will he had with xiv players in like 5 minutes
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>>686768181
Asmongold hasn't played WoW for years, sodapoppin doesn't even stream any longer. But they both magically show up for early access launch day talking about how great the game is after posting endless videos about how bad the game is on Youtube. Not suspicious at all
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>>686768223
Pyro came back to WoW because theres no money to be made in a dead game like XIV
Thats the only reason. Same as Preach and all the other grifters who live off stream money
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>>686768254
HE has that effect on people yeah
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>huuuuff actually the amputee broccoli hair zoomer gorilla who fixes anduin's problems with talk-no-jutsu isn't so bad i expected her to be way worse she's ACTUALLY super cute and a great character
>also the art team hit it out of the park
>the game finally feels like warcraft again
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>>686768301
He wasn't even involved in TWW by his own admission. I don't know how you can be executive creator of Warcraft and not be involved in the latest expansion, but best not to think about that too much
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>>686768254
Every person I played WoW with doesn't touch the game except when a new expansion hit in which they go back and play for a week or two.
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>>686768223
>So ashamed of Ridorana you go afk and delete the vod.
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>>686768437
WoW is SO back. They finally listened. It's like I'm playing the good old WoW again.
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>>686768219
The funniest thing is you really believe you can reel me in into arguing further. I hope you'll have fun one day playing games, lmao.
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>>686768437
yes I'm sure this is all completely organic and Blizzard doesn't have an advertising budget for paying high-profile Twitch streamers to stream their latest slop
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>>686768294
all i remember is his numbers dropped hard after he had his autistic shit fit over mods in xiv,of course he can't make any money when nobody likes him enough to watch him
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>>686768371
because he joined 1 month after df launched, when tww was obviously already in development?
steve danuser is still listed on tww's credits, so what he says is true
what he did do though is he took tww and told everyone there that hey your shit sucks, especially given that it's the 20th anniversary
and so he molded it to fit his saga.
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>>686768223
>Gets so frustrated with his inability to do simple math that he calls the raid gay infront of his fag fanbase
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>>686768606
>and Blizzard doesn't have an advertising budget for paying high-profile Twitch streamers to stream their latest slop
Someone should post the screenshot of all of the paid streamers for the delayed access launch.
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>>686768323
>also the art team hit it out of the park
Find someone on this board saying that, I challenge you, everyone says the opposite, that her character is hiddeous for no reason, all the rest its the classic WoW, nobody gave a shit when Thrall talk-no-jutsu everyone to join the races and shit like that, this is not How to kill a mockinbird of argumentation little nigger.
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>>686768628
He's been working at Blizzard for almost 2 years of TWW development. The idea that he had no involvement in it is laughable on its face. He knows it's a total pile of shit and wants to distance himself from it to preserve what little of his reputation remains, after strongly implying at Blizzcon that he was in charge of the series now and the Worldsoul saga was his baby. Turns out none of that is true and he's going to pretend like Executive Creator Director of the franchise has no involvement in development. Get the fuck out of here
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>>686768606
!DROPS!
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>>686768714
I think he's making fun of the Blizzdrones who say that shit.
>Find someone on this board saying that, I challenge you
Anti-soul gas everywhere.
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>>686768792
he was just a consultant, i don't think he had any power
besides, why is danuser on tww's credits?
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>>686768792
Ignore it, the blizzdrones can't cope with reality.
There is a reason of why Blizzard employees hates The Elder Scrolls and Bethesda altogether since the 2000's
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>>686768894
The literal inventor of the entire IP had no power, come on man
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>>686768714
her character is literally fucking hideous you no standards retard
>wow story is dogshit so it being dogshit now makes it actually ok
also arguing with people to find common means for survival isn't the same as holding someone's hand and fixing their hangups while a bunch of people with 5000 times her experience couldn't help him at all
wow is perfect for cattle like yourself
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>>686768792
The fact that Thrall became the "horde leader" in the cinematics its the biggest red flag that is Metzen influence on the game, he is not satisfied enough that Thrall is an aspect, leader of the horde, leader of the orcs, leader of the shamans, he needs Thrall to be canonized as a saint and a Titan till the end of the World saga.
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>>686768986
Well Thrall is his self-insert, as soon as he re-enters the narrative you know Metzen's meddling hand is at work again. Which is just another reason his claim of no involvement is plainly a lie
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>>686768323
Man, that is so disgusting.
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>>686768714
>that her character is hiddeous for no reason
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>>686768949
as a consultant?
yeah. danuser still had his position as a narrative director until he left in november 2023
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>>686769091
He's sitting in all the meetings with Danuser, even if he genuinely has no power, which is a not credible suggestion, he's working on the game, he's involved. You don't get to take your name off the credits when it fucking sucks.
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>>686768986
Thrall was always Metzen's self-insert. Having a wedding and "settling down" when Metzen started getting kids and settling down and then having some life crisis so did Thrall.
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>>686769189
But bro Metzen is supposed to save the game... save us all. He's going to make WoW bussin again.... if his name is attached to TWW, then it means he presided over literal slop...
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>>686768714
Original ghouls and abominations in Stratholme weren't as disgusting as this broccoli OC donutsteel chimp cripple (is one in a world full of insanely powerful magic capable of bringing people back from death, but not regrowing her arm).
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>nobody gives a shit about the story in wow it's fine if it sucks donkey dick chuds
>also metzen, the lore and story guy, will save wow. it's so over for you haters!!
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>>686769294
Midnight will redeem the series, just 2 more years until metzenkino, keep paying your sub and buying tokens to support Metzen bros...
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I hate Faerin Lothar so much that I will be spending 10k in commisions of her being raped and killed by the infamous chink artists AYASWAN.
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>>686769460
Midnight will already be kino, but to make it even MORE kino, you should pre-order the epic edition! That way it will be superplusultra kino! And don't you think the devs deserve at least that little tithe for all the hard work they're doing?
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>>686768628
Metzen is capable of making some very cool designs, as I remember seeing his drawing work.
But right now, he's in only for the paycheck as he obviously has no creative freedom at all.
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>>686769508
I think she's a dogshit ugly garbage character and I wouldn't even consider doing that. Don't waste your money.
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>>686769189
>even if he genuinely has no power, which is a not credible suggestion
why not? danuser was still the narrative director. he basically ran the show still until metzen rejoined in a formal position
metzen is listed on tww credits, i'm sure he made some changes here and there, but if he says that tww was already in development for 10 months by the time he joined, then it too late for him to make major changes
we'll see how the patches go, as we go into midnight
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>>686769537
So you believe Metzen's story about why TWW is bad and why he's not responsible uncritically. Embarrassing
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>>686769537
>he obviously has no creative freedom at all.
watch his interview. it's very insightful
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>>686769639
This is exactly the kind of self-serving face-saving story you would spin if you wanted to save your reputation from bad work and try to pin it on people no longer working for the company. It's so cringe people just gobbling down spin like this
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>metzen just joined
>already throwing his hands up and trying to distance himself from tww and hoping people believe that he had 0 input because even he doesn't want to be associated with it
grim
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>>686769675
Nah. The only thing I believe is that he silently hates what the franchise has become. He's a smart guy, he won't ruin his retirement arguing about pixels with trannies.
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>>686769891
It's not a coincidence that interview came out just before Early Access started, so everyone had his side of the story in mind (it's not my fault!!!) while playing it
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So this is the average wowfag, huh...
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>>686769985
He knew it was going to bomb and really quickly just disassociated himself from it right before release. Keksimus maximus.
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>>686769994
>I hope they double the price and really cash in
Yes, I hope that they triple the price.
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>>686769802
>>686769891
tww is a good expansion, but i'm willing to bet that if he was there from the start, he wouldn't have pulled khaz algar out of his ass
the next expansion immediately takes us to quelthalas/eastern kingdoms, and the expansion after that to northrend
tww was too far in development to discard/make big changes
we'll see how the patches go
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>>686769891
>metzen just joined
It's been two years already...



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