When will it die?
>>688106573it will die to porn games if anything
>>688106573When Gaben dies.
probably a while after gabe steps down/dies
Saars! Please use the epic saars! Steam will die in two weeks!
>>688106573Never
When a better alternative arrives or their services degrade to the point of physical media making a comeback.
Why won't you idiots just buy games on epic where devs get more money? I don't get it.
>>688109675Why don't I buy games and give 100% of the money to the developers and not have to install malware on my PC? OH YEAH I CAN'T!
>>688109948you can't do that because valve has a monopoly on distribution.
>>688106573When windows completely shits the bed, the masses of normies would more likely go back to consoles than switch to linux
>>688106573when Gaben dies, and Microsoft buys it.
>>688106573is this you?did you finally remember which board you are on, saar?
>>688106573Five more years.
when windows 7 stops working probablysteam needs the asian market badly and they are all using 7 in their cyber cafe's
>>688109675Why should I use an inferior shitty service whose owner uses shitty tactics in attempts to steal customers from his competition (and fails) then shits himself and screeches about "muh monopoly" and how he NEEDS to succeed? Epic is the annoying little brother of the market.
Steam will only die if the Internet dies.
>>688110950No I'm not me
>>688111089>steam needs the asian market badly and they are all using 7 in their cyber cafe'shttps://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/>Windows 7 64 bit 0.37%
>>688111059is this before or after bitchford openly regretted using epic?
>>688111337they stopped reporting cyber cafes because microsoft cracked the shits, it was up at around 20% before then
>>688111498he admitted he was wrong, he didn't say he regretted anything
>>688109675Because even the epig shitters that come in here bitching about gog and steam, don't want to actually spend money there.
>>688111987Insects are incapable of complex thoughts like regret, so yeah.
>>688106573it's already dying, the numbers only go up because steam is a haven for bots
>>688106573>t. assblasted loserreminder that you own your games even if they're purchased from steam>>688109675because epic is trash with china's money bankrolling its continued existence>let's just put actual cryptoslop on our platform!great idea dipshits
>>688113362But you are the insect who is incapable of deciphering human emotions in this situation, anon.
>>688113515>it's dying, they're just turning in insane profits with high margins... because of bots?
>>688109675why would i want to spread my library around multiple apps?
>>688113515>Timmy recently revealed the exclusivity thing cost him hundreds of millions of dollars>Steam is going as strong as everBut steam is dying because ???????
>>688113515Valve is basically the only foreign company to sucessfully penetrate chinkland, Steam isn't going anywhere.
>>688113798>>Timmy recently revealed the exclusivity thing cost him hundreds of millions of dollarsWhy do you lie like this, anon?
>>688106765This. It's gonna fall fast when he goes.
why do losers on /v/ root for failure nowadays? It's just... pathetic. Schadenfreude is only good when it's deserved.
>>688106573Just two more weeks, Timmy. I assure you
>>688113993NTA, but Tim stated that it was a bad idea (without numbers): https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/many-of-epics-exclusivity-deals-were-not-good-investments-says-tim-sweeney-but-the-free-games-program-has-been-just-magical/Documents in the Apple lawsuit gave numbers: https://www.pcgamer.com/epic-games-store-exclusives-apple-lawsuit/
>>688110091>valve has a monopoly on distribution.I'm fairly certain you have no idea what a monopoly is.
It will reach a saturation point where growth slows.Around that same time something new will come along that primarily appeals to the next younger generation.In turn steam users will become the facebook boomers of today and time will take its course from there.It is inevitable.
>>688106573>When will it die?In about two weeks, obviously.
>>688114472just Epic shill things~
>>688111987>he admitted he was wrong, he didn't say he regretted anythingSaying he was wrong is pretty much admitting it.
>>688106573So long as it remains private and survives Gaben's eventual demise, it will survive anything. All leadership has to do is not go full retard and quietly rake in tons of money. It can't be that hard to stay the course.
>>688109675Fuck devs they get enough and don't cater to me anyway
>>688109948GOG exists though
>>688114481Steam is older than Facebook already, kiddo
>>688106573when Half Life 3 is released
>>688114659thisthe second Valve goes public, we're doomed
>>688114481Only way Steam dies is if devs stop publishing to it or another store comes around that has the same games as steam but consistently for less money.
>>688114850But it has nogaems.
Why do you want it to die? It's the best storefront of any company out there.
>>688114850GOG takes a 30% cut, too. So do Google and Apple. Epic takes the least of the bunch, but that's because nobody buys games there anyway. The only way to give 100% of your money to the devs is either via their own personal store (if they set one up) or Steam Key sales, which Valve doesn't take a cut of.
>>688114481The oldest company in the world still operating today is over 1,400 years old. Slowing growth or even decline isn't the end. Every company goes through business cycles, and when managed properly they can survive indefinitely. Steam's low cost and high margin business model has proven to be extremely profitable and scaleable. They'll be fine, and losers on /v/ will continue to seethe at my success.
>>688115126turns out services cost money.
>>688115269wow I can't believe that's an unaltered photo of Gabe's computer screen
Only two ways steam die:1. Some oppai loli imouto game gets caught by CNN and millions of boomers get their pitchforks ready on facebook to yell about2. Microsoft makes a 1 trillion dollar bid for it and turns it into the MICROSOFT STEAM STORE with ads on the front page
>>688109675Because the infrastructure and communication services Steam provides for both the consumer and the developer are unmatched.Also because EPIC is owned by Tencent which is a nationalized corporate conglomerate of the People's Republic of China. I vote with my wallet, and I vote NO for China. Simple as.
>>688115565>Microsoft makes a 1 trillion dollar bid for itYou're assuming that someone who already has enough money to buy whatever he wants for the rest of his life suddenly wants more money for no reason.
>>688109675kys chang
>>688115848>owned by TencentRetard-bro...
>>688109675>going out of your way to shop at an inferior platform and store, just so that multi-billion corpo-kikes can earn EVEN MORE MONEYYou are hitting levels of cuck that shouldn't even be possible
>>688115908that is literally what companies do
>>688106573Never.Gaben has competent leadership to take over when he dies who probably have first hand experience in losing fuck tons of money due to the decisions of retarded shareholders and are smart enough not to piss away a near industry wide monopoly for a quick buck
>>688106573When all trannies go extinct
>>688109675I don't support exclusivity. Fuck Tim and his store.
>>688115468Many such cases.
>>688116287not hum, but one drop rule unironicallynow GGG (makes of Poey) are ACTUALLY owned by tencent
>>688114481Steam isn't some social hangout like myspace was that can lose its coolness factor on a whim, it's a store. It's why valve is fine letting discord run all the social stuff, they don't want to manage that crap.There are only two things that can kill steam; they either fuck up really REALLY badly and refuse to back down, or someone else comes along who somehow manages to do it even better for cheaper somehow and valve can't adapt somehow.
>>688106573Much later than you.
You don't want it to. It's shit but all of it's competitors are MUCH worse.
>>688114481Steam has been around for 20 years because they provide a service people want to actually use.>"Piracy is a service problem." -Gay Bens, twin founders of VALVe
>>688106573When Gabe dies. There's no way it doesn't all fall apart after that. It may take some time but Steam will definitely be much worse off.>>688109675Yeah man, let me just use an inferior platform instead of something that is objectively better.
>>688119067Valve is very tight knit for a company as big as it is and I highly doubt gaben will leave his legacy in the hands of someone who doesn't understand it.
>>688119193>>688119067The business model and customer base is already established. You'd have to try really hard to fuck it up even after Gabe steps down.
>he doesn't knowGaben have been working on uploading his brain in a machine so that he can forever live inside Steam and give himself an orgasm everytime you spend money.
>>688115063We clearly need extreme fragmentization like with streaming services. Oh wait, even streaming services are absorbing each other because no one wants to pay $300 a month for 10 services just to watch one show each
>>688115908>You're assuming that someone who already has enough money to buy whatever he wants for the rest of his life suddenly wants more money for no reason.Greed is addiction. They addicted to the accumulation of wealth.
>>688106573Realistically probably in a decade or so. Valve has become more and more anti-consumer over the years as well as encouraging shit like lootboxes. People like to suck Gaben off but he's a faggot who has donated to Biden's campaign in the past and his shitlib politics are no doubt why steam was the first game retailer to have pride sales and the like. It's also why steam bans anyone who criticizes the left wing dogma on the discussion forums. As we reach terminal wokeness the company will eventually start to fall apart and piracy will become more dominate. I can't wait for those days to be honest.
>>688106765spbpI can picture the shitstorm when his son takes over
>>688119802And yet Gabe could offer to sell Valve/Steam to Microsoft at any moment but hasn't done so in 21 years, so it seems he is more addicted to sticking it to Microsoft instead.
>>688120184oh I was talking about Bill Gayte, Gaben is clearly not the same kind of person Bill is.
>>688119870Steam is the most pro-consumer video game retailer on the market.
Why do people fetishize steams death so muchWhat exactly do you get out of it potentially dying
>>688119870meds
>>688119330All it really takes would be some execs promising the next CEO ~20 billions on the spot for him to consider selling it. People tend to overlook the future when presented with immediate gratification, it's unfortunately a human defect.
>>688120880>What exactly do you get out of it potentially dyingA fat Epic paycheck.
>>688120880nu-/v/ is full of hollow husks who only gain perverse enjoyment out of seeing successful people or endeavors fail. They are so petty that they only want to see others fail.
>>688120880>>688121073basically this, TORtanic radicalized the true retards of the board and we haven't recovered since even if TOR is doing better than Concord ever will
>>688120880The industry will get worse and become that much easier for everyone else to abuse. Vultures would be drooling over valve's death, it gives them free reign and we'd all end up getting fucked by fragmented garbage spyware launchers and consoles again. Less games would come to PC and they'd all be trying to one up each other in how hard they could screw you.
>>688120880Its mostly snoys seetingTheyve always been the biggest annoying retards on this boardNintendo is in its own untouchable world but theyll still try to take jabs at them like with astroXbox shat itself completely so theyre no longer a danger whatsoeverBut currently their big daddy sony is porting games to PC and that presents an existential threat to their very oersobalitySo they attack PC and Steam
>>688106573too many people have invested in their accounts.people will start giving their accounts to theirs sonds etc.steam shutting down will be the equivalent of a world war.
>>688121676Nintendo fans are far more aggressive now that they view valve as a threat, especially with the deck and what it represents. And nobody seethes over the prospect of those games on pc harder than they do.
>>6881067658 years
>>688121676>>688122298tendies and snoys are cut from the same retarded cloth, the sooner you learn that the sooner you realize consolewar faggotry is really just corporate tribalism ragebait and none if ever mattered
I don't think it'd end up being bad either way>Steam is still alive, and nothing changes>Steam dies and everyone goes back to piracy, encouraging archiving>an actual competitor shows up (get the fuck out of here Tim) and Steam either die or improve, either way it'll force a positive change.
>>688122626I mean, obviously. Tons of switch fanboys are former sony fanboys now screaming snoy everywhere after sony backstabbed them and the switch got all their weeb games. Still, they have aligned with their current distinct sides and the reason people consolewar to begin with is because they find it fun so it'll never end. Even if pc ends up consuming everything such people will still find something to align with and rabidly defend.
>>688120483oh it makes sense now that I read it all again in that context. lmao
>>688109675because timmy is a piece of shit and i'd rather not buy a game than give him any money
>>688120585>Steam is the most pro-consumer video game retailer on the market.>Digital rights management (DRM) is the management of legal access to digital content. Various tools or technological protection measures (TPM), such as access control technologies, can restrict the use of proprietary hardware and copyrighted works. DRM technologies govern the use, modification and distribution of copyrighted works (e.g. software, multimedia content) and of systems that enforce these policies within devices. DRM technologies include licensing agreements and encryption.>Stockholm syndrome is a proposed condition or theory that tries to explain why hostages sometimes develop a psychological bond with their captors. It is supposed to result from a rather specific set of circumstances, namely the power imbalances contained in hostage-taking, kidnapping, and abusive relationships. >it took 12 years and Australia for steam to allow refunds
>>688122815>Steam dies and everyone goes back to piracy, encouraging archivingYou mean pirate games that are currently on pc. Problem is games would no longer be coming to pc, they'd flee to consoles and drm.
>>688123037Steam is the most pro-consumer video game retailer on the market.
>>688119802Gabe is a longterm thinker. Just look at his autistic quest to make Linux viable because Microsoft once hinted at trying to turn Windows into a walled garden which might cause issues for Steam.
>>688109675>Why won't you idiots just buy games on epicNo Linux support.Take this game for example. Runs natively on my GNU/Linux machine because I have the itch.io version that comes with a Linux copy, whereas the Epic Games Store version doesn't. The only reason it's in my EGS library is that it was $0, which is what that version is worth, because it's not the full product.>where devs get more moneyThat doesn't affect my gaming experience, but developers choose what amount they give to itch.io, which can be as low as 0%. So if I gave a fuck about that, I'd still buy games on itch.io instead of EGS.You're btfo right now, btw, in case you couldn't tell.
>>688123352>because Microsoft once hinted at trying to turn Windows into a walled gardenHaha silly conspiracy theory, that would never ever EVER happen
>>688123352Microsoft didn't hint at it, they tried to go through with it and several of their decisions along with abusing their power over the OS space and continued corruption of windows is why gaben is pushing linux.
>>688123352I'm glad freetards can game on at least half capacity that wintards can now thanks to valve's spearheading
>>688109675Why use a store that even shills don't buy from?
>>688106573It'll be a slow decline after Gaben dies
>>688120030>SonBitch, why would his son take over it, Gaben isn't even the sole owner of it, even if his son get anything valve related in his Will he will just receive profits from it, he will have no power in the company.
>>688123551Freetards can now play pretty much anything aside from a handful of eac drm games that explicitly refuse to allow it. What valve did with proton is some real black magic that journos refuse to talk about in favor of reserving that word for any time they want to praise nintendo but can't really figure out or articulate why.
>>688109675EGS plans to start getting profit only in 2027, as they keep bleeding money non-stop what do you think they will do in 2027?
>>688123819DRM sloppa doesn't deserve to be on any platform, let the chinks seethe that freetards refuse to buy their trasht. First Descendant enjoyer>What valve did with proton is some real black magic it really is incredible. journos are too busy talking about why the latest game is the new hip buzzword soup and why straight white males refuse to buy Concord to talk about actual gaming news
>>688123819>>688124114>protonQRD for a tech retard?
maybe if Gaben gets exposed for being a pedo
>>688106573It will live as long as youcan physically play games.
>>688124217https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton
>>688106573never
>>688124020>EGS plans to start getting profit only in 2027Haven't they missed every projection so far? Doesn't help spending on 3rd party games went down last year too.
>>688124281>Proton is a tool for use with the Steam client which allows games which are exclusive to Windows to run on the Linux operating system. It uses Wine to facilitate this.The power of alcohol is truly impressive.
>>688124217It's basically the thing that integrates Wine into Steam.Wine is the Linux program that runs Windows executables using re-implementations of a bunch of Windows APIs.Apparently macOS has Wine too, but the macOS version of Steam doesn't have Proton. Gabe was in need of a Windows alternative, and chose one. Apple fanboys can only seethe.
>>688124217They made wine actually useful and finally made linux viable by allowing it to run practically all programs made for windows. They open sourced it and they keep making it better. In some cases they've even fixed games that had problems on windows or improved performance. Basically valve casually removed any reason to use windows anymore for anyone with a speck of computer literacy after decades of not being viable for the average person. If any other corporation had done this they'd be screaming it from the rooftops.
>>688124418valve even put steam on macos years before linux and nothing came out of it because macos is fucking dogshit, turns out valve going straight to the source is better than trying to cater to some malformed version of linux
>>688120880le ebin funny TORtanic flop failureI refuse to believe anyone is actually that retarded, it's all shitposting for (you)s
>>688124927Well that would also mean working with Apple which sounds horrible.
>>688124219Jared Fogel raped multiple kids over a long period of time and Subway is still doing well. Nobody cares.
>>688125471Jared was a spokesperson retard that they hired for publicity, he wasn't the CEO of Subway
>>688106573when game streaming becomes mainstream
>>688125680cloud gaymen will never be a good idea
>>688120880An eventual demise of Steam with all of it's consequences would be a funny sight to behold. Tragic, but funny.
>>688126331I will continue to laugh at the inevitable failure of any and all cloud gaming services. Two down, how many more to go?
>>688115565>1. Some oppai loli imouto game gets caught by CNN and millions of boomers get their pitchforks ready on facebook to yell aboutScary thought. I could see an coordinated attack with this being the kickoff. Frame Steam as some type of honeypot with a bunch of loli and anime sex games on it
>>688106573Go to bed, Tim.
>>688126571>how many more to go?However many need to go down before the idea dies for good. Could be one, could be one hundred. All of their fates will be the same. Shit dude, Stadia even tried to have exclusives and their own controller. If that isn't working, there's literally nothing else you can do. There's no innovation you can do to the concept of cloud gaming, it is a very narrow and strict service.>>688126943if Sex With Hitler or Furry Hitler isn't enough to get anyone riled up then loli hentai isn't gonna do shit, loli is not illegal in the US
>>688126571>two downI'm pretty sure there has been like 5-6 attempts by now
>>688127324I was mostly referring to the high profile ones. Stadia and whatever Amazon has been peddling as of late
>>688106573probably neverat worst it'll turn into a portal for gambling websites while retaining games on the side
>>688127324>onlive>stadiaI'm not sure what else has been out there, even gamepass or console subscription fag taxes still require you to download the game
>>688106573When someone makes a better online PC service. So probably never.
>>688127231when trump got shot at, i dont remember if it was either CNN or some other american mainstream news outlet that reported that "the shooter HAD a steam account, which HOSTS a game that has trump be assassinated at a rally."They didnt say that the shooter PLAYED the game or even OWNED it, all they did was connect to the idea that the shooter was in the vicinity of a game that had the same output played out. Thats all it takes to get retarded boomers screaming at the top of their lungs to shut something down. One kiddy diddler needs to just have a steam account and theyll connect it to some loli hentai shit
>>688106573When someone makes a better product or when Gabe dies/retires and Microsoft buys it.
>>688106765You just know all those fucking corpo cunts, MS, Sony, Amazon, etc are just fucking WAITING for that day. The minute Valve even HINTS that they are going to sell steam or sell themselves it’s gonna be a fucking auction.
>>688114481Steam is so fucking old that a very hefty portion of the people that use it weren’t even alive when it was created.
>>688109675FUCK them devs.
>>688106765It's funny how Steam is only holding on because Gabe is an extremely rare case CEO that's not an autistic sociopathLook at the difference between him and Tim Sweeney
>>688121189Concordtanic was 1000x funnier and also more financially devastating than TORtanic ever was. TORtanic was literally just people shitting massively on the game while still subbing to it by the millions.
>>688128278>"the shooter HAD a steam account, which HOSTS a game that has trump be assassinated at a rally."That is some intense stupidity going on right there. They really tried everything they could, huh? Giving him a shirt from a gun youtuber and claiming it was a right-wing bunker channel for example. It really does feel like this loser was just a CIA plant especially considering how Biden and his staff specifically denied giving more security detail to Trump.>>688129060Yeah, TOR didn't take $200M and shove it up its own ass then close down in two weeks.
>>688114481>Around that same time something new will come along that primarily appeals to the next younger generation.I've read for over 5 years about how EGS was going to do that because of muh gorillion Fortnite zoomers and all the free games giving them huge libraries.
>>688129420turns out people just see it as "The Fortnite Launcher"
>>688129420Sadly for Epic Fortnite zoomers are mostly console players who probably don't care about a PC store.Plus they latch on to whatever streamers are freaking out about which are usually Steam games.
>woke shit in deadlock and working with SBI>randomly banning and ruining launch of vns since 2023 like chaos head which doesn't have bannable fan service>the games that get translation update don't chart in new releasesit will only get worse
>>688109675I have used EGS for purchases, but it's GUI is terrible. Literally the worst out of all the various launchers.
>>688106765The exodus that will happen when this lad dies will be immense. If Valve itself doesn't get subverted and gutted by publicly traded vultures a company like M$ will step in to claim ownership.
>>688106573when something overtakes it by offering better service (never)
>>688131123Where will the people flock then? Their games and friends are on Steam.
>>688106573It will be like the Imperium of Man. Even when it gets to the point when it SHOULD die, it will carry on purely through the weight of its own immensity.
>>68810967510/10 bait my dude. You really got all the (you)s you could ask for. You know the reason why Steam is better because you can't possibly be that dumb. I refuse to believe a human being such as yourself has so tiny of a brain, that they look at EGS and think it's better than the care and love Gaben has put into Steam. Good job anon, way to epic ruse this thread.
>>688131447I'm going to use GoG, also, I have no friends.
>>688106765 But who is the next guy in the line?
