>game has surprise NTR
>>688293691Why do /v/fags fucking love NTR? Go get a fucking wife and see how it feels.
>>688293691if you're boy hakuno with archer it isn't
>>688293863Yes it is he's literally fucking Rin, the girl you just saved
>>688293691Alright, can someone please explain to me what the deal with Archer/Shiro is? Some people say he's really powerful, other people say he's supposed to be an archer but picked swords so he does sword rain instead of basic vidya arrow rain, other people say the dude with the teleporting spear makes him look like a bitch. I don't want to read a VN, seacats going full retard ruined VNs for me. Someone please just explain what the fuck this guy's deal is and why some people say he's super powerful but others say he's pathetic.
Rin and Archer were meant to be together. I'm the one horning in on their relationship. I'm lucky Rin lets me be her cuck.>>688294290Read the VN.
It's not NTR, he's literally Shirou
>>688295686>Read the VNIf the story is so shit that not even the fans want to elaborate on it then I'm doubling down on it not being worth reading. If someone asked questions about Malazan or Shadow Slave or Magician I'd jump on the chance to talk about a story that I like. Just explain the dichotomy man.
>>688294290Archer is the "secret" future version of the original Fate MC (Shirou Emiya), he's essentially the "Shadow" to Shirou's "Sonic".He has the power of copying any sword he sees, supposedly the copies are weaker but he can create an infinite number of them so he uses these swords as "arrows" making him hit stronger than he has any right to and he's supposed to be just as durable as a regular human but he has avalon inside him which makes him basically immortal. So basically just plot armor to make the MC look cool.
>>688296446It's shit, they are probably going to cope saying that I shouldn't have "spoiled" to you that Archer and Shirou are the same person. >inb4 t-they aren't the same, Archer is from an alternate timeline where Shirou becomes jaded and edgykys fatefag
>>688296446play fate/samurai remnant instead, you get to fuck Saber who has a penis.
I don't understand the screencap, what is the procedure supposed to be?
>>688293691I've been seeing a lot of people defend Extra and CCC lately, what's going on?
>>688297301Fate is only popular because all the "historical figures" are hot as fuck and "contracts" or "transferring mana" is an euphemism for having sex. These VNs are basically a newgrounds flash "dating sim" sex game disguising itself as a battle royale rip off with historical figures instead of highschool teens.
>>688293691>shriou + rin>ntr???nigga what? Do you even know fate?
>>688293771Because they are coom addicts and hardcore pornography is literally cuck conditioning.
>>688297626>fsn>battle royalebro the battle royale part is barely there. The protagonist immediately allies with the only other real contestant and then they just fight villains together.
>>688297735>my old self from a different time line travels to the past>rapes my own girlfriend while my present self just stays there watching suddenly this is ok according to /v/.
>>688297883That's what I said though, it's basically just a dating simwith different routes for different waifus. Everything else is superfluous
>>688298015>rape>rin is clearly consentingMore like>be me>be dead>be summoned by a younger version of my wife>she wants to have sex>have sex with her underage teen cunny and take her virginity>remember I was mad because a heroic spirit took her v-card when I was alive>mfw it was me all alongLife is good.
>>688294290They're extremely autistic about swords, so autistic that their metaphysical "origin" and magical "element" both became "sword." This allowed them to develop the special magic "Unlimited Blade Works," which lets them analyze and magically reproduce pretty much any sword or other armament they see, including the weapons of other Servants known as Noble Phantasms. They can recreate weapons to the extent of inheriting their "experience" and "instinct," making them very skilled fighters.So despite being an "Archer," he's really more of a swordsman in most cases. He DOES have a bow and it's actually one of his most dangerous options, because he can do shit like turn a magical sword into an arrow that homes in on you from a mile away and explodes with enough force to level a building, but he doesn't use it much because that wouldn't make for very interesting fights.The author, Nasu, consistently downplays how strong his abilities are but he's definitely a top-tier Servant who even in the original VN kills the most bullshit enemy Servant six times (he had twelve revives), demonstrates a technique that can beat the most skilled swordsman Saber in a straight duel, and hard-counters the most big dick Servant with the "real" sword rain by doing it better.He still loses to Lancer (Cu Chulain) though, it's a bad matchup, Lancer can dodge projectiles forever and in melee combat Gae Bolg is a spammable one-hit-kill Luck check against his Rank E Luck.
>>688293691Wait, is this real? Archer fucks Rin in Extra?
>>688298480just say you're a cuck and move on, stop deflecting.
>>688298608>c-cuckHow am I a cuck for explaining the straightforward plot of Fate? Shirou is a faggot and every other fate product mogs SN. Joan the arc taking dragon cock or the gacha protag fucking everything under the sun is more interesting than shirou being a retarded fuckwad.
nasu retconned sex for mana transfering anyway so this is non canon.
>>688298608>you see your honor my wife was unfaithful>she had sex with me, her husbandyou ok anon?
>>6882937714chan's userbase at large has a huge self-esteem/male self-image problem so NTR is a kryptonite and is easy to just throw out there to shitpost by either other, more bitter men, or some other group that has reason to make a group of vitriolic nerds feel inadequate/question their worth as a man.
>>688296446If the story's so shit why are you interested in it?
>>688298898Nah, Having sex with a future version of you is still cheating. Though it's probably more your future selves fault. Sure in the future you'll go back in time and cuck your past self but you the present you hasn't done that yet. So it's just dick move.
>>688295793that's not Rin though
>>688299221none of these secondaries and tertiaries played the game
>>688299094Current day Shirou isn't even in a relationship with rin yet though how is it "cucking" when you have sex with a woman who is single?
>>688297626There are three female Servants in F/SN and one of them is pretty much completely covered at all timesThere are a handful of sex scenes across the entire story which goes for more than 40 hoursNobody is playing this with their dick in their hand>>688297883>the battle royale part is barely thereHuh? It's the entire conceit of the game, you're gonna be spending way more time having how the Holy Grail War works explained to you than seeing any romance>The protagonist immediately allies with the only other real contestant and then they just fight villains together.That is how literally every battle royale story plays out
>>688299318So this is the EXTRA/CCC universe? What are these NTRtarda even whining about then?
>>688298960i get the impression that anons here are really arrogant.
>>688297626it's not an euphemism
>>688299401It's still an asshole move considering the present Shirou will eventually start a relationship with Rin. From the perspective of the future Shirou that would be something that's already happened.
>>688299401this is cuck mentality, stop spreading your bullshit. faggot.
>>688298987Am I especially interested in it? I just wanted to understand the concept behind a character who is frequently posted here. I could only reasonably assume it's shit if the fans didn't want to genuinely elaborate on it prior to >>688298502Thanks for the detailed response anon.
>>688299920You are retarded. You can't be cucked by someone you're not dating.
>>688300272But if the person knows that at some point you'll start dating as 100% certainty. It's definitely NTR.
>>688293691It's not a surprise, you knew what you were getting into the moment you chose archer
>>688300065Yeah I was thinking the same thing about Astro Bot.
>>688300475Except that person is you. You're retarded you're basically saying "if you have sex with your wife/gf you're a cuck".
The real cuck is Shinji, imagine raping a girl for years and she gets more soaked thinking about Chadrou existing than your ass, fucking suicide inducing.
>>688300065It's absolutely shit but maybe take into account that you're extremely late to the party and not everybody is going to be eager to hop on the opportunity to summarize a wikia article for you.
>>688300648But it's the future version of you. If it's the past version than it's fine because the present you can't complain without being hypocrite. But it's not hypocritical if it's something you do in the future. Meaning you haven't done it now.
>>688300841you're a retarded virgin anon
>>688300841>But it's the future version of you>you>you>you>you>youkeyword is you
>>688300804Fair enough. I like talking about the stories I like and I had assumed others felt similarly but you're not wrong.
>>688300841>if you have sex with your wife tomorrow (future version of you) you're a cuckretard
>>688293691Isn't archer shirou? At least it's not fucking sakura.
>>688294290EMIYA is Shirou after he sold his soul to Alaya for power and became his ideal Superhero, but then realized that his afterlife would be spent exciting threats to humanity ad nauseum without any choice in the matter and without potential for end.Shirou's magecraft, Blade Works, is all built around his internal Reality Marble called Unlimited Blade Works. Basically, Shirou grew up with Avalon, a sword's scabbard, stored inside him by Kiritsugu in the hope that it might save his life one day. As a result, Shirou's inner world has a certain proclivity toward swords.Whenever Shirou sees a sword, everything about that sword is transcribed in his memory: its design, materials, its history, and how it was used. This data is turned into a knockoff stored in Shirou's Reality Marble immediately and infinitely. Shirou's mind is described as. Steel manufacturing plant.He can, essentially, pull these knockoffs out of his world and into the real world in what otherwise looks like object projection but is really his personal world encroaching on the real world, which is quickly squashed by Gaia, as Gaia knows those aren't the real swords. When Shirou uses these swords, he somewhat takes on the stats and skills of those who used said swords, allowing him go go beyond what would otherwise be possible of a human from the current era.And in Shirou's ultimate attack, Unlimited Blade Works, he expands his Reality Marble outside his body and overwrite a bit of Gaia for a time. The result is that the doesn't need to pull swords out of UBW, they're already there and he can bombard you with Unlimited magical swords until he runs out of mana or Gaia takes the space back.
>>688293691why are men so insecure about women fucking other dudes?if you are able to make her cum with your dick, she would never want to cheat on you.small dick energy.
>>688301296yes
>>688301169Future you and you are separate entities that exist at the same time. the "you" is just phrasing for simplicity>>688301296By tomorrow future me will be present me. Which is in no way the same as tommorow me traveling to yesterday to fuck yesterdays wife
>>688301726it's not even other dudes it's just you but older kek.
>>688301726But what if the other man is a future version of you with the same dick but more experience. Completely unfair.
>>688301814>Future you and you are separate entitiesTry explaining a bank that it was "past you" who owes a mortgage, not "present you" retardbro.
Fate/Extra? More like Fate/NTR
>>688298480>I wish I could watch my identical twin fuck my wife. Totally not NTR, genetically he is is me!We got ourselves a cuckold boys.
>>688302020If future me traveled to the past and took out a mortgage in present me's name than you wouldn't be able to explain it but you can see why that's messed it.
>>688302308>>I wish I could watchWho are you quoting?
>>688302341>it's fine when past you does itC U C K
>>688302664By the time past you has cucked you. Present you has also cucked future you. You deserved it.
Fate is garbage and only got popular because Saber has a good visual design.
>>688302575Not just a cuck, but stupid too. But to spell it out for you, your fantasies are being quoted little cuckold boy.
>>688294290See all the other replies, +He's extremely good at reinforcement magecraft, so he uses that to jack up his physical attributes to low superhuman levels. He could probably lift and throw a small car with extreme exertion, he has a sixth sense for danger from a lifetime of combat experience and mystically reinforced senses to give him souped up reaction times. Hes still outclassed by most SERVANTS because theyre fucking rediculous but If batman and spiderman had a baby that shit out swords that shirou.
>>688304260>your fantasiesI just explained Fate to you. How is it "my fantasy"?
>>688303686It's a common theme in Fate that rules are made to be broken. They show it off in the first fight scene. I can understand if you don't like that aspect of the story, but it hardly makes the whole thing 'garbage'.
>>688293771I will never have a gf so ntr is just like watching porn for me
>>688293771ntr is all i know irl
>>688299487Rin is a romantic interest for the MC.Your servant having sex with her counts as NTR.
>>688302091Tamamo is not NTR.
>>688304715>caring about rin when you have prime foxwife and umussy pining for your genitalsLol. Lmao. Roflmao. It's OK Archer. You can have my sloppy seconds.
>>688304465The most surefire sign of an incompetent writer is when they make rules for their fantasy world then constantly break them for shock value.
>>688304953Ok>the witch king of angmar is killed by an asspull because he was technically stabbed by a hobbit and a woman, not a man
>>688304715Not his wife/gf yet. Do you think every time two single people are having sex somewhere they are cucking you?
>>688305059Except Norse myth is all over Tolkien's work and Tolkien was honoring the style of ancient Norse prophecies where the letter of the prophecy is more important than the spirit of it.
>>688304910She literally fucked the antagonist
>>688304465It's not shock value, it's storytelling. You're missing the actual rule being established, which is "Even these all powerful minions and magics are not infallible."
>>688304465>AIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE NOT THE WOBBLY PUNCHES NOOOOO ANYTHING BUT THAT>HE'S WOBBLIN HE'S INVINCIBLE I CAN'T TELL HIS HANDS APART SAVE ME SHIROUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>688294290He’s extremely fucking broken, it’s basically batman where you could justifiably always make a scenario in which he would win but at surface level you say “well actually he’s weak as fuck though”
>>688304950>caring about rinI'm just stating objective facts, my guy,Don't shoot the messenger and all that.
Make a game with cuckqueans instead of cuckolds and i'll buy it.
>>688306287This fag was such a nasu side character, which isn’t a good thing, weird as fuck inclusion
>>688305439>moves the goalpostsI accept your concession
>>688306870He's low key the protagonist of an entire other series that just never got written. Not literally, just that's how he comes off>disposable assassin created to eliminate supernatural threats>trains whole life for mission in the mystic mountains >completes mission>just... doesn't off himself for some reason>hides as a teacher>comes across ancient Greecian spellcaster who merked her first master>is just nice to her and this earns her undying loyalty>guess I'm married now>beat up king arthur? Yes dear.
Rare Extra thread.
post more Rin
>>688306643He's broken in anything BUT a stand up fight with another Servant which is why his ass cheats. He cannot take a true heroic spirit head on even using broken phantasm. He's basically an assassin without presence concealment but more utility
>>688293771Deep into the porn addiction pipeline. NTR -> BBC slave -> troon -> groomcord matron
>>688294290Just reading all the replies to this makes me glad I never got into Fate. Such a gay series.
>>688299643He can still be right, overcompensating and playing yourself up is one of the stereotypical ways people deal with feeling inferior. I do find it hard to believe the plethora of anons on here crying about not having any friends and being suicidal are an entirely separate group from the ones talking shit at the drop of a hat over things they clearly don't know much about.
>>688307873I feel like BBC comes before NTR, Troon definitely follows though
>>688293691Archer is such a slutThe only bigger slut is Lancer
>>688307597He could ass rape the majority of servants
>>688297626this
>>688308729This is funny because someone would only write this if they liked Fate but was frustrated by it.
>>688308729Why exactly is there always caren shilling
>>688308479Lancer fucks Archer in the ass daily. This is canon.>>688308549No he gets fucked in the ass.
>>688303686Your shitty reposted meme doesn't even get the basic premise right2/10 apply yourself
>>688309387Because you WILL love Caren and you WILL be happy.
>>688299318Sorry I only cared about FSN
>>688308729I'm not reading all that shitA self-hating FGOtard is still an FGOtard
>the tertiaries STILL think it's Rin
>>688309953>I don't know shit about shit but I will still offer my gaping butthole's opinionwe know
After FGO it became very difficult for this franchise to be interesting in narrative.You can only get cool popcorn eating content.
>>688298502Shirou's element became sword because of Avalon though, not because of autism.
>>688310308Ok then what is she?
>>688310805play the game, tertiary
>>688310805NTA, but iirc she's a Tohsaka, implied to be the granddaughter of Fate/Extra's equivalent of FSN's Rin Tohsaka.
>>688306870It's literally because of him that Shirou becomes so confident in fighting other servants and he's (another) important parallel.
>>688307919It's really not that complicated. At least the original three routes. Sure, there's loads of OP bullshit and weird lore but its functionally inconsequential for enjoying the story. I first watched the Unlimited Blade Works anime. It is supposed to be the second route and supposedly requires experience the first route. But I enjoyed it just fine as an action anime.As for the simplest explanation of Archer, he's just a possible future version of the protagonist. It's that simple.
Can humans even survive sex with a heroic spirit or servantGoing by base physics sense, they should not be able to survive it
>>688305439>Egil Skallagrimson needs to kill a berserker>but he's immune to weapons>Egil proceeds to rip his throat out with his teeth, because teeth aren't considered weapons>heroes have to kill the witch king>but he's immune to men>So he gets killed by a womanTolkien really wore his inspirations on his sleeve, huh
Whats the best way to read the VN?
>>688311623Going by base physics servant are just humans with superpowers.Saber is physically weaker than Shirou and Rin unless she's using mana burst to augment her movements.
>>688311780Why wouldn’t a servant augment their penis in mid coitus with mana?
Gandalf would be some little loli girl with an oversized wizard hat if he were called as some Servant. This is why I hate Nasu btw. You know for a fucking FACT that’s what he would do.
>>688311623ObviouslyJust because even a weak Servant like Caster could crush your skull with her bare hands and bullets would bounce off her doesn't mean she's literally made of steelThey're made of magic, physics and common sense don't really apply
>>688312073Ironically when Zeus' design leaked early people thought it was fake because it looked too stereotypical Zeus instead of a little girl or something.
>>688312198>They're made of magic, physics and common sense don't really applyExcept when Nasu compares it to physics, to distinguish magecraft from true magic, to disastrous (ironic) effect. Nasuverse magic was not thought of all that well.
>>688312281This is quite rare. Nasu likes to turn old white beards in myth into pretty long haired bishounen boys, like Merlin or Solomon, etc.
Physics says blue and red (THAT red) and purple (etc) hair is 100% impossible. And really, the idea of blue or purple body hair is just weird. It would look like a toy.Tigers are orange because green fur is a total impossibility. No green haired pussy.Medea and Sakura fags can only cope at this shit. Japanese hate their hair colours.
>>688312389Magecraft is distinguished from Magic by the end result it accomplishes, not the process it uses to get there. The process is what distinguishes the supernatural from the natural.Constructing a body out of magic or firing curses like bullets achieves a similar result to what has been made mundane by science, so there's little Mystery in them.This is all to say that magical constructs imitate physics but are not bound by them, and a Servant could have lovey-dovey sex with you just as easily as it could shatter your pelvis and rip you in half if they wanted to.
>>688313174>a Servant could have lovey-dovey sex with you just as easily as it could shatter your pelvis and rip you in half if they wanted toGod, that's so hot.
>go to the past>rape my younger girlfriend>mindbreak her>beat her up>piss all over her>"its ok bro, im your future self :D"
>>688312073Nonsense. Nasu originally wanted Fate to be a game where a girl protagonist is surrounded by knight chads, only for the lead designer and artist, Takeuchi, to calmly explain to him that his shit wouldn't sell in that case (he was right, it's a decade early for otome games). Takeuchi is also the OG guy in charge of making sure every Fate game has a blond sword wielding major character. If anything, Nasu would want to play Gandalf more or less straight. But would the other people at TM let him? Probably not.
>>688311629Ex fucking scuse me? Futa?
>>688314234>japanese femMC in an eroge visual novel>gets fucked by gigachad foreign servantsI wonder why that didn’t get greenlit
>>688293771It's mainly collective insecurities.
>>688314876>it's impossible for two girls to have sex without a penisVirgin-kun...
>>688315572I know it's possible and I don't care, I'm asking if futa is possible.
Are we still pretending Fate was ever good (narratively)?
>>688315374Otome games with sexual scenes barely sell today. The result would have potentially been even worse 20 years ago. It's not like there weren't any femMCs back in the day, and Alicesoft used to put out much stranger stuff, whether it's a bepenised spider woman sex game or literal BL titles. I just think it's unlikely that such a version of Fate would have ended up finding its audience, and if it did, it would have been a super tiny one. Maybe Nasu could have realized this vision by making the game purely about romance, or maybe have erotic stuff that's not actual H-scenes, like some otome games do nowadays. This would have basically left Nitroplus without one of their colossal franchises, Touken Ranbu, but there's no way you could pull something like that off in 2004, similarly to how Nasu couldn't have created an FGO in 2004.
this entire thread
>>688316260Futa is canon in fact. Merlin gave Saber a dick.
>>688314234What would be the FeMC equivalent of Shirou jackhammering Rin and Saber?
>>688315374too realistic for the target audience
>>688315374>>688316915>average Japanese megane manages to get Cuhullin, King Arthur, and Gilgamesh to kill each other over her>realistic
>>688317239That's hot
>>688317239Japanese girls are hot
>>688317239I don't think you actually understand what draws women to romantic stories with female protagonists. It's not being princess carried by the guy who killed 10 others for you, but a monogamic relationship with a severely troubled man. Essentially, women have been doing "I can fix her" for years before men caught up to it recently, though obviously they're fixing "him", not "her". What sells is stories that are a good balance of toxic and healing. Abuse, assault, even the oh so dreaded my soggy knees is excusable as long as the guy is actually a good person and you can fix him in the end. So, yes, the anon you're quoting is right. A game where men beat the shit out of each other for pussy? Who wants to play that, or, better yet, who wants to develop that? Read the newspaper and you have dozens of stories like this happening every day. Realistic indeed, and, most importantly, not captivating, thus you have no audience.
>>688293691Oh yeah I always forget Fate is a sex game. I swear it's the only he tai on earth that has mainstream success
>>688316260Tamamo offers to give herself a dick with her Shapeshifting skill to fuck Hakunon if she isn't into scissoring.
>>688318045Who gets the dick: Tamamo, or Hakunon?
>>688315374Japanese men believe they’re more attractive to white women than Japanese women are attractive (and attracted) to white men
>>688318045>tfw no fox wife that can grow herself a magic dick
>>688317946Fate hasn't been a sex game since Rea Nualta and Nasu always regretted FSN and Tsukihime having h-scenes.
>>688320674>Fate hasn't been a sex game since Rea NualtaThe most succesful fate game FGO stays afloat due to sex appeal and bond 10+ being implied to be sexual.
I clappedhttps://youtu.be/MVXo6_C_TJE?si=tgLFEYiIbCVK1Qb6
need sex with saber NOW
>>688319085Don't worry, now that the rock broke, she's out there somewhere.
>>688293691It's irrelevant because they will remove this in the remake.
>>688313174>Magecraft is distinguished from Magic by the end result it accomplishes, not the process it uses to get there.That's just fucking retarded and you know it. In a world of one dimensional (time) causality, everything is lead up to. Sorry, modern science can't make flying birds made out of hard light that can shoot laser beams. Also those birds are formed by strands of hair casually plucked out of the scalp.Science. Can't. Do. That.
>>688293771because they're cuckolds
>>688324138>Sorry, modern science can't make flying birds made out of hard light that can shoot laser beamsDrones that attack with lasers exist right now. Again, magecraft is just another means by which humans accomplish a task, while Magic is the domain of miracles.Being able to conjure a fireball is nothing special in the modern world where you can just light a match. Being "made of magic" (ether) is not something special when that magic is well understood. If you applied the scientific method to magecraft, it would become just another field of science, able to be studied and reproduced.Magic isn't like that. Magic accomplishes what both magecraft and science regard as impossible, by means known only to the Magician who has essentially looked God in the eye and lived to tell about it. Time travel, creating something from nothing, accessing parallel worlds, the manifestation of the soul, all feats completely beyond science and human understanding. That is what makes them Magic.
>>688294108honestly you're in the wrong for trying to fuck Shirou's gf
>>688293691Don't care. Never pick the dude (I'm not a homo) and girls can't cheat with other girls (I can just fuck them both) therefore I win and your NTR can't happen.Good try, thanks for playing.
>>688326514What are the magic users in Fate?
>>688323946There are 2 scenes in ExtellaLink where Tamamo is arguing with AstolfoIt's kinda funny
>>688295793personally i still wouldn't be ok with future me, or even clone me sleeping with my girl
>>688326662> I can just fuck them bothYou can’t the minute you try to enter the room she tells you to fuck off and threatens to hurt you if I remember correctly
>>688327161The first Magician is deadThe 2nd Magician is the 2nd greatest mage who ever lived and discovered the 2nd magic by playing around with jewels autistically until they let him perceive spacetime through their technicolor. So as a result both he and the 2nd magic is referred to as Kaleidoscope. He regularly travels between universes and through time so no one knows if he's around or how many of him there are.The 3rd magic is the Heaven's Feel which is dead but we know how to get it back. Heaven's Feel is the crystallization of souls. Basically the soul is a transient concept that returns to Akasha after you due, but HF turns it into a physical object. It's considered an important requirement for true immortality since immortals always go nuts from degradation if the soul. So with HF, you can turn souls solid and maintenance them before that happens.The 4th idkThe 5th is Magic Blue, Aoko Aozaki is the current Blue. Basically the 5th allows you to blueshift or redshift your own personal timeline, allowing you to borrow mana or knowledge from the future and send things into the future like your own injuries or aging. Aoko is essentially immortal because she keeps sending her own age into the future and doesn't lose fights because she keeps borrowing future mana and gets info from the future that tells her how to win.Magic is a miracle of the universe, essentially.
>>688327167Is the "Mikon" scene one of those arguments?https://youtu.be/Eo2XPvUzKJg?si=9iaKGTlTKNNwm51m
Dumb Fatefags. When will you learn.>>688326514>Drones that attack with lasers exist right now.They aren't made out of hard light. They don't spontaneously generate, or have the capacity to change form radically.>Again, magecraft is just another means by which humans accomplish a task, while Magic is the domain of miracles.Semantics. It's all magic. it's all science. >while Magic is the domain of miracles.See below *>Being able to conjure a fireball is nothing special in the modern world where you can just light a matchHaving an exclusive ability to conjure grenades-but-worse is a million times more significant than owning a pocket lighter, or a gun. They can't take that away from you. >If you applied the scientific method to magecraft, it would become just another field of science, able to be studied and reproduced.It literally already is a science and literally IS being reproduced by mage families. If anything works at all, it is a science. Pic related.>Magic isn't like that.Magic is whatever the fuck and no one could agree on it even in history. >Magic accomplishes what both magecraft and science regard as impossibleOkay I guess a UFO is borderline Magic then. (It is)>by means known only to the Magician who has essentially looked God in the eye and lived to tell about it.Does God view Himself as a God? Are His doings truly capital-m Miraculous to Him? Obviously not. The same way the elves in Tolkien's middle-earth don't believe in (elven) magic. The elves look to the maia(wizards) the same way humans look to the elves. Gandalf isn't a wizard back home in Valinor. >That is what makes them Magic.What makes magic is "I don't know". Period. Full stop. A black box. It's one-sided, and oftentimes the capital-w Wizard doesn't view his doings as wizardry. God I hate Nasuverse magic so much it's unreal.
>>688327958Yeah
>>688326514>>688327979 Correct image
>>688328158It's kinda bases how the Christian God canonically exists in the nasuverse and low tier shitters like the goetia demons are threats to the nasuverse lol
>>688323748no
Tamamo is an Asian girl with pink hair and blond fur.I think that's weird.
need sex with archer NOW
>>688329850I'm GAR for Archer too.
>>688328697>Hakunon bitch slaps Caster when she gets all uppitybased
>>688330235Only Rin, a woman, gets to experience that.
>>688327979>They aren't made out of hard lightWhether they're made of aluminum or ether is irrelevant, both are materials humans can mundanely create their tools with. They aren't miraculous apparitions, they're constructs with understood functions and properties.>Having an exclusive ability to conjureThat's the point though, it's not exclusive. A magi can learn how to cast a spell to create fire, just as a person can buy matches at a store or learn to make fire themselves by rubbing sticks together. Even if you're not someone who has those skills or the ability to learn them, you know that it's something humans can do. Humans can build flying machines and ships that can take them to the bottom of the ocean, we can build atomic bombs and devices that fit in the palm of your hand that connect you to every other computer on the planet. Things that were miraculous fantasy not long ago are mundane reality today.>Does God view Himself as a God? Are His doings truly capital-m Miraculous to Him?Of course not. But people aren't God, so when one person miraculously gets a glimpse of the secrets of the universe and comes away with a part of God's power to be wielded by them and them alone, they do seem to deserve some distinction.That person isn't an Oppenheimer who has made men into gods by revealing the mysteries of the universe to us, they're a living demigod with unfathomable power all their own.
>>688326662>tranny playing as a girl says "I am not a homo"lmaolol
>>688320674no he didn'tnewfag made up shit
>>688331651It's amazing how much more awkward and stupid the replacement scenes for the sex ones were. So you're telling me Rin could've fixed Saber's connection with Shirou the entire time but was too lazy to ever tell him how? When he was the only thing she had to protect herself? A magic crest, the most important thing to a magus requiring genetic compatibility, can be transferred into someone completely unrelated with no genetic modification? Psuedo-sexual finger/neck sucking scenes? In spite of not having sex, they act like they did and are really fucking awkward about what they did instead more than they were the sex?should've just skipped to after and said it happened
>>688293771Meme fetish only liked by normalfags. If you're an actual weirdo the fantasy of vanilla will feel more unrealistic tgen anything else and be all that gets any response out of you.
>>688332021I'm of the mind that the scenes aren't great but they don't matter much because it's like 15 minutes tops in a 75 hour reading experience but the idea that Nasu didn't "want to" do it is retarded and I don't know why newfags keep parroting that shitIt's an eroge, made for degens and not Redditors who feel 'icky' over cartoon 17 year old tiddies, deal with it or fuck off newfags
fine ill get to playing ccc shit
>>688332708It's surprisingly fun and has an interesting story, unlike Extra. granted, the weird cybershit and its nasu easily at his horniest, yes even without the sex scenes stay night and tsukihime had>>688332454They're poorly translated. Like, they didn't even bother."My penis wrenches Sakura's pussy open."When in reality he said something akin to "My member spreads her moist folds."
>>688332708Game is based and so is my wife Nero
>>688332938I don't even really think that's true, the prose is similar to how the fight scenes read. And I don't know why the sex scenes specifically would have a worse translation than other parts.Either way they're really funny and are better on that basis alone
>>688332938it's still my favorite TM work
>>688333001The duality of (wo)man
>>688333126>I don't even really think that's true, the prose is similar to how the fight scenes read. And I don't know why the sex scenes specifically would have a worse translation than other parts....anon
>>688293771Because I love fucking others wives. Get fucked beta, you couldn’t satisfy her.
>>688302091nero is a confirmed hymen intact virgin whose harem is full of nothing but beautiful girls and she willingly offers to share them with you. now, she IS a mega womanlet and mildly retarded....
>>688297192>fate/samurai remnantIs this any good? And why does Saber have a penis?
>2 beds
>>688333564no need for her flowers when you have THE Rose of Rome attending you
>>688297192hot
>you will never get fan service like this on a Sony game ever again
>Extra ccc>Archer beating Karnathere is no way in hell this is possible
>>688333990karna loses on purpose like 90% of the time it's totally possible. he's almost a gil-tier jobber
>>688297192saber is for his wife retard.
the addition of a slampig was simply inspired
>>688293691>game made for cuckchan anonsWhy did you all drink the coolaid and start getting into cuck shit?
>>688293771Sounds like you got cucked, that's hot
>activate Tamamo's noble phantasmit's time for a full round of CBT
>>688297192>saber:|>saber, japan:)>saber, japan (male):D
>>688293691What Fate game?
Just how strong is Tamamo?She's beyond the mages who lived in the ages of the gods easily because she technically is one but doesn't she literally turn into a god in her ending to free you?
>>688299318Only ones who have read FSN can say they aren't secondaries. The games and almost all Fate related media are shit and can be ignored.
>>688334634Yes.
I only played FGO, does that make me a secondary or tertiary?
>>688336015quaternary scum
>>688335846nah, game is good, Fate came out before you were born, suck my dick GGNO RE
>>688293691>>688311629>save a girl you like>she ends up having sex with your servant>can't even watch or have a turn, just wait like a good little cuck>fatefags like this
>>688336165I'm 34. I'll rape your mother
>>688336295no, you won't, because your micropenis can't penetrate your own gunt FAGGOT
>>688336359based
>>688336015That's like saying>The only Batman I've ever seen was the Batman Ninja anime
>>688335846nah, the other anon is right because HA is better than SN, and CCC is up there, too.This is how it's obvious you're a series newfag
>>688336683>, and CCC is up there, too.opinion rejected.
>>688330780>Whether they're made of aluminum or ether is irrelevantNope.>both are materials humans can mundanely create their tools withHumanity doesn't have access to hard light technologies, lmao. We can't freeze light/energy to create perfect holograms or pseudo-lifeforms. We haven't reached Halo status. >They aren't miraculous apparitionsMake no mistake, a cellphone would be magic to a caveman.>they're constructs with understood functions and properties.The average zoomer doesn't know their tabloid works, kek. Only how to use them.>That's the point though, it's not exclusive.The ability to shoot fire without any external aid? Something only a few people can do? Due to their bloodline, and jealously hoarded secrets? Sure. Whatever you say.>Of course not. But people aren't GodFor now.
>>688336683>HA is better than SN
>>688336798hello shit taste kun, you might want to try reading it at some point
>>688336740you didn't play itor Hollow AtaraxiaI bet you didn't even read Fate and watched the fucking movies
>>688293691By the way that's not Rin Tohsaka (F/sn). That's Rin Tohsaka (Fate/Extra). In the Extraverse, Tokiomi had a bastard child, and then that Child had Extra Rin. So she's F/Sn Rin's niece.
>>688336912>There's no possible way you could think my god awful highschool tournament plot with a literal NPC main character could be bad! You didn't play it!fuck off lol
>>688336798I mean, it is easily up there with the best nasu work
fatefags are so fucking gay holy fuck
>>688310308I don't play gacha slop.
>>688336750>conflating the real world with the Nasuverse>pretending that Nasuverse magecraft isn't scientific after previously acknowledging it was>ignoring the clear distinctions made between what is possible for individuals and what is possible for humanity as a wholeI'm starting to get the impression that you're not arguing in good faith
>>688339054>so dumb he resorts to "y-you're just bait!!!11"Sigh. I expected more from you.
>>688338598>He doesn't play TM's magnum opusLOL
>>688339164No point in arguing with someone who can't decide what you're arguing about
what's the best ntr doujin
>>688298015You dont play as shirou in ccc
>genre exists just to psyop you into thinking that someone can cuck you harder than your own governmentWhy are legalized draft dodgers like this?
>>688305059read the book
>>688305085If an attractive female character fucks anyone other than me (the MC), then it's cuckshit
>>688333001>>688333340Funny how the closest we've gotten to an "accurate" Passionlip breast size is I want to say one of the Extra mangas or the Seraph manga adaptationEverything else makes her too small
>>688293691this is why i never like protag switching in the same-universe
>player character is "peeking in">not ntrfag baitcome the fuck on guys, what's the deep lore reason?
>>688339890Is Shirou the Chad MC in HF because he takes the girl from away Shinji and the creepy old man with the power of his Lv8 cock?
>>688339054>>688339416your gae
>>688340229Li Shuwen punched Hakuno's Servant with his sure-fire 100% guaranteed one-hit-kill Fist of the Chink Star attack. The Servant survived this instant kill move on 1 HP and needs a mana transfer but the attack also screwed up Hakuno's magic circuits so she can't do it herself. Either Rin or Rani (depending on route) takes it upon themselves to fuck Hakuno's Servant in her place. It's just a reference to F/SN where something similar happens.The director of the game has since come out and said including this scene was the worst mistake of his life. It will be replaced by a new scene in Extra Record focused on Hakuno and her Servant.
>>688322062There must always be an Emiya remix in every game.https://youtu.be/XXPn34atW9w?si=PKRsoRTL7wYWQGzv
>>688341000>It will be replaced by a new scene in Extra Record focused on Hakuno and her Servant.Extra is finally getting an h-scene? What would a digital mollusk be?
>>688322062when this happened I dropkicked my grandma and screamed while shoving my phone up my ass
>>688341802>Altria
>>688342063Not sure why TM localizers love to call her Altria, it's even in the FSN remake
>>688342143>TM localizersYou mean Nasu?
I would probably lick Archer's abs if he offered, but that's just me. No homo.
>>688293691How do fate extra faggots defend literal NTR
>>688342380if you can defend constant japwank you can defend getting cucked in a video game
>>688342380anon are you seriousNasu fucking loves NTRit's been a constant in every single Fate story
ABBY!
>tfw had to use save states to beat twice
>>688297626>"contracts" or "transferring mana" is an euphemism for having sex.It's not an euphemism, it's literally fucking. They fuck in canon and do it on-screen if you have the original VN and not the censored re-release.
>>688332021The first one was worse in the original. It makes no sense for Rin to suggest that Shirou order Saber to attack innocents, when she knows that all he has to do is give her a dicking and she'll be all better.The RN version makes more sense as Rin probably thought Shirou dropping out was preferable to him losing 1/3 of his magic circuits. And Saber only becomes disabled right as Archer regains his strength, so she wouldn't need her anymore for protection. She only suggests that when Archer is dead and they're all about to die if they don't.
>>688343249>It makes no sense for Rin to suggest that Shirou order Saber to attack innocentsEveryone else is doing exactly that so it's a reasonable suggestion.
>>688343249nahrin never suggests thatshe says it's a way but saber would never agree to it and neither would shirouarcher is fully healed by that point too
>>688343218It's one of the simplest ways for people with no magical experiences to make contracts. Medea has Kuzuki do it because the contract needs to be made by a person and he's a complete normie
>>688343249>>688343528>Rin didn't tell Shirou to fuck Saber because it was either awkward or she wanted them weak for when Archer recovered>She only brings up either solution when they're about to diedammit rinand you're supposed to be an ally in this routehow the hell are you better in the one where you're at full strength
>>688343528Its been nearly 2 decades since i read fsn but would she really be 100% against it though considering she burned down a village before during one of shirous dreams?
>>688343894She let towns be razed in order to save more people. It's an entirely different thing. Something like that is a step too far for her.
>>688293691"surprise"
Come to think of it, did Rin not know how to make contracts or did she just want to have sex with Shirou in the original?
>>688343756In RN, that was her being an ally. She knew that Shirou would immediately agree to it and she didn't want Shirou to potentially cripple himself post war, so she hid it. And Archer was at full strength the night that Saber uses Excalibur. If she was actually cold-hearted, Archer could have easily killed them if she had ordered it.
Chapter 5 of CCC be like>JULIUS! LEO! GAWAIN! ...Cas.ter.
>>688293691Hakuno is a canon cuck Fate Extra cucks
>>688344150it makes sense either waybut inner dragons are fucking stupid
>>688343249>It makes no sense for Rin to suggest that Shirou order Saber to attack innocentsIt absolutely does, but it doesn't make sense for her to actually mean it-and I doubt she does. Rin's been taught all her life that mages are heartless, but that's never robbed her of her own heart in spite of her best efforts. She knows what mages will resort to without being willing to do it herself, and that is what ends up ultimately earning her a place at the table of top modern mages.
being more about the character than the wack ass scifi shit makes ccc so much better than extra
>>688342213Yeah that Faggot who loves to write [HEADCANON]
>Deranged ESL still making Extra NTR threads>A third of the thread including the first few posts are just him talking to himself at a perfect minute delay>swapped to GARcher's variant for more (You)slol
>>688297192Do you actually get with Saber in SR? That smug face needs to be splattered with baby batter.
>>688344379This basically. Magus are amoral assholes but rin isnt a psycho despite being a bitch.
>>688340230it's fate/extra the protag ain't shirou
>>688344705Doesn't he have a fucking wife?Just because you're the NTRman doesn't make it not NTR.
>>688343894Saber is more ruthless than most people give her credit for, she would have cut Rin in half and not thought twice about it if Shirou didn't stop her, but she's absolutely not going to kill innocent people to sustain herself. She specifically makes it clear to Shirou that she would not obey an order to do that as a solution to their mana problem, and he'd have to use a Command Spell to force her.In the first bad end where you back out of the war, she goes so far as to threaten to take Shirou's soul to sustain herself if he breaks their contract, but she's just putting up a front. When he shows her his resolve, she respects his choice not to fight, kindly wishes him well, and goes off to find another Master.
>>688297192that sounds kinda gay bro
>>688294290goddamn the average 4chan is mentally retarded nowadays
>>688308335That's a massive amount of projection.
>>688345307That sounds like NTR route.Would he meet Saber later hanging out with another man and already in love with her new Master?
>>688344705your sister ships you with him but other than that i have no clue, im not that far in the game. apparently he has a wife but she does not show up in the game at all.
I just beat Extra CCC with Caster.That was actually really fun.
>>688344705you don’t
>>688293771Feminist simp brainwashing
>>688345232>Doesn't he have a fucking wife?>>688346203>apparently he has a wife but she does not show up in the game at all.uh, you guys know that KING ARTHUR also had a wife and that didn't stop any of her dozen+ incarnations from getting dicked. Almost every major servant, male and female, has a historical spouse or lover since there's not exactly many super well known historical figures and literal royalty who left their mark on history yet died kissless virgins. Cu Chulainn also had a wife, it hasn't stopped yumes and fujos from lusting after him for 20 years. Same with most male and many female servants.
>>688336982So? They still turned Rin into a cuckbait character
>>688293691NTRfags be like>im am self-inserting as archer right now!!! even though i'm looking through a peek in the door...watching him fuck rin>i'm not a cuckold no no no, i'm actually a chad stealing the girl hahahaha>AHHHHHH IM COOMING ARCHER CUM INSIDE RIN YES AGHHH>haha.. definitely not the cuckwhy are you fags like this?
>>688342967IS LAVI BACKWARDS
>>688346980I think they have confused feelings. Because what they really mean to say is that they look through the door *admiring* the other guy, or wishing they were the girl get fucked by him
>>688347074isn't that kinda gay? admiring a man in a sexual context? or being turned on because there are multiple men?
nobody in this thread even played fate extra
>>688347191Nobody on /v/ plays video games.
>>688347287why are we still here
>>688347409for me it's "social interaction" (i have no friends)
>>688347147It 100% is gay or trans. Obviously the cucker is the "top" and the cucked is the "bottom"
>>688293771Porn addiction. Its a fate worse than Hell like gambling or hard drugs.
>>688347467you were supposed to say just to suffer
>>688297626it doesn't disguise itself as anything, it's an eroge made for horny otaku like every other VN
>>688293691People actually waifu a character that is NTR used goods? That's disgusting
>>688294290Archer is Shioru from the future
>>688347678wtf spoilers
>>688293771>Go get a fucking wifeI can't :(
This is why FGO is the best game. You do the NTR instead of being NTR'd
>picking the male servantyou deserve to get cucked
>>688346203>apparently he has a wife but she does not show up in the game at all.Finish the game.
>>688344705You cross swords with him :3 and kill each other in a duel to the death in the true ending.
>>688347496it's actually pretty common in yaoi shit or omegaverse mpreg stuff for the "alpha" to assert dominance over the bottom like that before actually fucking, the reason so much cuckshit comes across as intensely homosexual is that it's basically a mating display by the "bull" to prove how good he can fuck and impress the cuck, "YEAH BRO I FUCK YOUR GIRL SO GOOD, I BET YOU'D LIKE IT IF I FUCKED YOU TOO HUH? NO HOMO THOUGH UH THIS IS TOTALLY STRAIGHT TO MAKE EYE CONTACT AS I CUM!"to make it on topic: if you genderbent shinji suddenly her raping sakura and insulting shirou is clearly an act of frustration that OH MY HIGHJUMP emiya-kun is paying attention to her sister rather than her, and shinji(female) is actually a jealous bitch who wants to get GAR'd
>>688348043>to prove how good he can fuck and impress the cuckHoly shit you're right
>the only virgin girl in Fate/Extra is the AI based on the only non-virgin girl in Fate/Stay NightThe irony
Don't look, anon...
>>688348407yuri doesn't count, nero is also pure, whining about her harem is like whining about the rin+saber threesome end in ubw good. nobody seriously cares if a girl has scissored with other girls. people even consider Saber a virgin since she's "only" used her magic futanari cock to perform marital duties with Guinevere and had her semen stolen in her sleep by Morgan, but she never had a guy put a dick in her.
>>688293691>Surprise NTR>canon pairing>its technically the canon love interest's niece but you don't know it yet at this stageAnon I
>>688346980>>688347074That's not why NTRfags like NTR.
I think it's funny how losers on /v/ complain about secondaries, but are not aware that there is an HSR collab next year that will probably bring a shit ton of actual secondaries into the threads. you deserve it.
>>688333564>>688348690Nero's harem has boys in it too though?
>>688348870The fanbase has been dogshit since FGO, adding more gacha secondaries to the mix won't make it any worse.
>>688348870Those will be dodecaries and can be safely ignored
>>688348906>boys are to be enjoyed with ones earsanon she's talking about literal eunuch castratii singers
>>688348963since FSN you mean
>>688349064No, F/SN was great and one of the best Type-Moon works, its fanbase is cultured.
>>688293691I've never actually played or looked into this series, just become aware of their female characters vicariously.Is it really just NTRshit?
>>688349148That's not Tsukihime
>>688293691Sauce
>>688310934Wrong, replay the game.
>>688348963FSN is gacha.Master either summons the Servant they want or just randomly gets one.
>>688349213>Not Kara No KyoukaiFTFY
>>688349160it's an 80 hour visual novel with a handful of sex scenes whose prose involves seafood metaphors. of the 3 routes 2 heroines are virgins who get their hymen ripped and jackhammered by the MC, the third is a saviorfag-bait rape victim who's been horrifically abused by her family her entire life and has a backstory so hilariously over the top cruel it wraps back around to parody
fate sounds extremely cringe
>>688349213Tsukihime is also great and its fans are cultured. TM was doing pretty good all around for many years.
>>688349160Fate/Extra has a weird scene where your servant has sex with another girl in order to power them up. Whether or not your servant is a guy.It's weird
>>688349213pfff>>688349310pff
>>688346481That sucks. But can you get with your dadmom?
>>688293771>Go get a fucking wifeI already have one :(>see how it feelsIt's hawt as fuck in like an awful way, thinking about it makes me light headed, I get this dreadful tight feeling in my chest and my stomach, and I start cold sweating and flushing
>>688349421You can't get with anyone anon
>>688344705>Do you actually get with Saber in SR? No, actually he cucks you
>>688349507how come type moon lolis are usually loyal and the shotas are such disloyal sluts?
>>688349562They understand how the world works
I always forget this was a thing, lmao.Nasu during his Extra days truly was a madman.
>>688349562No, I mean he fucks your sister-wife
>>688348407>Sakura Nurse>Virginnah man, that line clearly implies she knows how to please in sex>>688348690>yuri doesn't countshe says the line when you have Archer also it does count even if you mental gymnastic girl love not counting
>>688349791nero is an exhibitionist, yes, she has zero shame in her naked body, which is frankly tame compared to IRL nero
>>688348690It counts to me.You are a cuck.
>>688332021>Gets his schizo claim that nasu regretted porn proved wrong >Goes on a lengthy irrelevant tranny rant anyway Kek, kys troon
>>688349791CCC is Nasu's Magnum Opus, those days were peak Nasu.The only two things that ever came close in levels of Kino was CCC Seraph and Lost belt 6 in FGO.
>>688349932>it counts to meok I guess saber is NTR used goods since she fucked TWO girls and was even raped against her will in her sleep by one
>>688349989Yes, glad we agree.
>>688349989less used than Sakura, who was raped by Shinji and worms for 11 years straight
>>688349973...what
>NOOOOOOOOO CASTER PLEASE DON'T TIE UP KING ARTHUR AND PUT HER IN A SLUTTY EVENING GOWN AND LINGERIE AIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEI cannot believe I share a board with homosexuals who unironically feel threatened by girls groping each other. do you break your discs in rage every time an anime has an episode where girls fondle each other's boobs in the locker room or hot springs, too?
>Shirou: Cucked>Hakuno: Cucked>Ritsuka: NOT-CuckedIs he the only MC to be a true chad?
>>688350205Touching boobs with close on = okTouching naked boobs by accident = hmmmFondling naked boobs in a sexual manner = not okKissing = not ok, used goods. Her first kiss should belong to me.Scissoring = beyond redemption
Can you hear that?That's the sound of lion posters all coalescing on that post at an alarming rate.
>>688307873For me, it was:futa -> 2D traps -> 3D traps -> shemales -> sissification -> BBC -> cuckolding (I am here)somebody help me please
>>688350389Instead of jacking off to porn hire an escort twice a month
>>688350363galahad's superpower is literally being such a turbovirgin he ascended directly to heaven after finding the grail, LION man never got to fuck mash because galahad literally hates the ideaa of having sex more than he does all 7 billion people on earth being genocided (lmao, yes really, he refuses to help and does nothing when that happens but beats the shit out of lion man to save his purity)
>>688350205Let me save you from the homosexuals.
>>688350482You would do that too if your butt about to get barbed.
>>688350389Stop viewing porn and get more hobbies. It's not healthy.
>>688293691So is this a "The character I like is having implied intimacy with another" type of fake schizo NTR, or is there some established relationship between the player and Rin?
>>688350363They learned they lesson the hard way.
>>688350772>What if you had a tiny version of Shirou, would you ntr him?
>>688350282Gets cucked(GRAND COCKBLOCK) by Mash every time a girl even gets closer than 1.5m to him
>>688350772medea has good taste, truly underrated best girl
The only purpose of female "sex" is mutual foreplay before the bull takes them both.
>>688350750The PC in Extra has no relationship or implied love interest with any of the NPCs except their servant. So the OP baiting about Rin is just being a fag.On the other hand specifically, if you play FeMC + Archer, FeMC gets jealous of the above encounter in the OP and you can question Archer later if Rin is his ex in which Archer will deny it with a rather strange expression.
>>688350772Saber (forma raped)
>>688350772Looks like they're playing a game of worms on saber
>>688342143>>688342213>>688344591>They don't know this is all Nasu's le epic beast set up where he can have aLtria and aRthur for the right and left side of the beast
>>688350987>game of wormsWrong girl
>>688350963You forgot to mention that Tamamo and Nero are both used goods.
a rare defenseless Saber
>>688350892And yet, he still remains uncucked, they tried to but failed.
>>688351047
>>688351072I don't care, I'm gar for Garcher
>>688350892>Gets cucked(GRAND COCKBLOCK) by Mash every time a girl even gets closer than 1.5m to himmeanwhile abby locks him up in a rape basement for a billion years of time dilation mating
>pretentious cuck franchisewhy would you ever play any of these?
>>688351382Abby is a good girl, she would never do that to (me)
>>688351382God I wish that were me bros....
>>688351082good god my dick
>>688346980archer is literally me
>>688350892Shuten gets to successfully rearrange his guts in Shimosa
>>688351458What happens if I put my penis inside her keyhole?
>>688350389feels good not being a futafag
>>688351580It would be extremely painful
>>688351643she's a big girl
>>688349261Pretty sure I'm not wrong. The Rin you meet is either the daughter or the granddaughter of F/E's equivalent of F/SN's Rin.I do intend to play it a 3rd time but only a few weeks before Extra Record comes out, so yeah.
What was his name again?
>>688293771I like NTR in the way the female is broken, I don't self insert as the cuck or the bull, I just enjoy the drama and tension of a faithful girl being fucked senseless and out of rationality.
>>688351568which shuten?fucking hate how you can't just pick up the little teasing slut and fuck her
>>688351751FOR YOU>>688351818TASUKETE NIGGAMAN
>>688351796Try Niece>The Rin here presented is a distinct person from the Rin of Fate. She is of a household that succeeds the bastard lineage, left behind as of the circumstance that Tohsaka Tokiomi--a former head of the House of Tohsaka--went overseas. >However, the pattern of her preferences and character are as the very image of the original Rin. She's an existence that could be called as 'another Rin'.>EXTRA OF TYPE-MOON - Pg. 15
>>688351907Best Shuten
extra Rin's combat panties...
NTR is slowly becoming vanilla in Japan.
>>688352512>slowlybeing this oblivious to cheating culture
>>688352207>Rin but not RinNasu is creative bankrupted even back then huh
>>688350282Shiro would never
>>688348906
i know this thread is based on games that nobody played. but what would you do to save illya in hf?
>>688352582>Shiki but she's a guy>Shiki but then he takes his glasses off>Len but she's whiteYeah
>>688352582>year of our lord 2004 + 20>only just figuring out Nasu is a hack
>>688293691>Redman>NTRing anybodylol okay dicklet
>>688352695You forgot>Shiki but she's a girl (Male)
>>688352669At a certain point there's nothing you can do, as Shirou. You'd have to go as far back as maybe before Berserker was taken to split the route.
>>688352927>he doesn't knowENTER REDMAN (Extra - forma de 007)
>>688352669It would be easier to save her in UBW. In HF everything is pushed to their limits.
>>688350963Figured as much.>>688351072You imply that's going to stop me from going after best girl and second best girl.
>>688352669>>688353005>>688353042Unironically HF is probably the only route where she could be saved because Sakura is paying the dead servant tax instead of Illya until Archer dies, and thats what really is the point of no return if you recall Irisviel's condition post Caster's defeat.
>>688353141I get it.I forget the Fate route a lot too.
>>688321783>bond 10+ being implied to be sexualHow? Bond 10 doesn't get anything, no cutscene, no voice line, no date etc. Only CE but 90% of them are lore related and doesn't mention (you) at all
>>688348690Maybe It’d be ok if hakuno was actually allowed to join but he wasn’t and was told fuck off or he’d get hurt trying to say its doesn’t count is pathetic at that point
>>688353231Anon, even in Fate route Illya is doomed to die the moment she absorbs a dead servant. The convenience of HF is you can let Sakura explode and get pic rel as the true ending to Fate Stay Night
>>688353014kek what is this resurgence of copium from Shiroufags
>>688353504>resurgence of copium>14 year old source materialretard
>>688353471>kirei finds cunny as his purpose in lifekino without reproach.
>>688353239a lot of valentines, bond dialogue, etc are either explicitly sexual or straight up love confessions. >pic related, kuro's interlude where she goes around with (You) in the [Serial Kisser Squad] mouthraping female servants ending with ilya before mash realizes at the end you're her tongue wrestling partner as well
>>688353115I just find it gross man.Idk. If you can enjoy that, that's cool.But it disgusts me beyond almost anything if a girl isn't pure.Worse, they brag about their previous sexual partners. It's just nasty.
>>688353239>>688354048I think you mean bond 1-5.Some few Valentines and some few bonds are romantic, maybe 1% are sex innuendo like Melusine and Kuro's. But it's a vast exception not the rule.It's alright I guess, and just that vague implied romance of a few servants probably drive sales for them. But It's all pretty childish compared to some gacha, not even eroge but like Nikke and GFL.
>>688352669She can't be saved because she knows she's doomed and she's accepted that, so she gives her life to save Shirou instead.If Shirou doesn't have sword cancer and Illya is still in control by the time the ritual is ready, I don't see why she couldn't perform the Heaven's Feel to save her soul from her body like she saved Shirou from his.
Fate is THE ntr franchise, so it's never a surprise.
>>688354694That's the nature of long dead legendary girls being ressurected I think. There are a lot less virgins than a typical anime story. Though there are still plenty.
>>688354914Who did she fuck?And does she brag about it?
I miss old fate, should I bother with the witch of the holy night
>>688355104yes
>>688350389I could unironically help, but do you really want help, or are you just shitposting? I ask because I don't want to waste the time to type the working solutions
>>688355027Altera I was posting as an example of a pure girl.She jumps into the musou and kicks the other two, Nero and Tamamo's butts (for a time) then steals (you) in a very pure loving romance story.Written by Nasu
>>688355104I liked it well enough. Pretty short though.
>>688355180Oh, interesting. The wiki says something about her having a wife that passed away and then she marries Kriemheld though.
>>688354694>But it disgusts me beyond almost anything if a girl isn't pure.for me I prefer them pure but especially with historical and mythological figures I don't really mind that much if they're faithfully adapted. especially since Fate/ loves introducing parallel timeline or alternate versions of characters who are pure even if the OG isn't. Rider/Medusa was coveted by Poseidon for her beauty and ended up assaulted by him in a temple to Athena and transformed as punishment (because athena, like most greek gods, is kind of a victim-blaming bitch and she lacked the power to punish Poseidon so she had to take it out on Medusa instead), I like Rider a lot and wouldn't mind if there was a Singularity or game or whatever where part of the plot was saving her from poseidon or making sure she wasn't in Athena's temple that day to ensure her purity, but I also don't really care that much if LITERAL MEDUSA is faithfully adapted from myth since her character's current personality is related to that event. when it comes to shit like saber technically having grown a dick to bang guinevere and have her cummies stolen by morgan to maintain parity with actual arthurian myth, I just could not possibly care less, the situation is so eminently ridiculous that the only take away is making fun of merlin for being a cock wizard, I don't feel "NTR'd" by Saber being an autist who had to ask her court mage for a fake penis to produce an heir with her arranged marriaage queen because she's such a fucking autist she can't admit to being a woman lmao
>>688355459>saber technically having grown a dick to bang guinevereI take issue with the banging part, personally.If it was just artificial insemination I wouldn't care.
>>688354694>why aren't they for meThey are based on real people you fuck head, get over it
>>688355396Oh yeah apparently.It's ultra lore autism where she's the embodiment of a comet and digital projects herself onto the Earth and lives as Atilla the Hun.I don't fucking know... I just thought the romance story was very good for a musou spinoff of a spinoff. Not the deep lore.
>>688355154Not him, but I do.
>>688355459>>688355561Saber didn't actually fuck Guinevere in the new lore, their marriage was political and loveless and she didn't give Saber an heir. Mordred was always the product of Morgan's shenanigans.This raises the question of why Merlin gave Saber a dick if not to consummate her marriage, since Mordred's origin didn't change, but I haven't played FGO or read Garden of Avalon so I'm not the guy to ask to explain that one
>>688355883>This raises the question of why Merlin gave Saber a dick if not to consummate her marriageeven if they never fucked besides their wedding night, saber would have still made sure to consummate it on their wedding night because that's literally required in order for it to be considered a valid marriage. the only reason saber married her in the first place was for the political purpose, she wouldn't let it be open to annullment or dissolved
>>688355883>Saber didn't actually fuck Guinevere in the new lorePretty sure they never fucked to begin with unless there is some obscure Nasu shit that says otherwise. The intent always was to slam her for an heir but before they could try and see if the artificial dick worked, Morgan raped Artoria and stole her artificial semen.
>>688342805What the fuck? Nerocucks explain??? Holy shit Tamamo won
>>688356347tamamo has had multiple husbands you dumbass
>>688356347>>688356448She had sex with her former master, Twice Peaceman
>>688356103>Pretty sure they never fucked to begin with unless there is some obscure Nasu shit that says otherwiseDoesn't Saber say something along the lines of "I know what pleases a man" in her first H-scene? Hard to explain that one while preserving her knightly honor if it's not about her doing it with Guinevere, they don't exactly just do it missionary with the lights off thinking of Camelot.I didn't get the impression that Saber was aware of whatever Morgan did to steal what she needed for Mordred, so she wouldn't be talking about that. She's not aware of Mordred's parentage until Mordred herself finds out and reveals it to her.
>>688356584>the only japanese servant in EXTRA is literally an unfaithful housewifewhat did nasu mean by thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1Ncqntv4U0in CCC you literally meet Twice and come face to face with past-Twice (due to a temporal distortion gimmick) and get the cuckshit thrown straight at your face
>>688356929I always wondered if that was a slight mistranslation and meant more like "she knows what it takes to please a lover" maybe? The line always felt awkward if your brain didn't go straight to she was giving blowjobs at 12 years old to stable boys before ever meeting Merlin.
>>688357230merlin gave her a dick and saber, the excellent swordsman she is, mastered how to wield that particular sword
>>688357306I was reminded of this lol
>>688294290>he's really powerfulHe's low mid tier at best
>>688349368He's a good boy.
>>688350282yes but only because he fucks astolfo
>>688353014Do Japcels really?
any ntr stuff where the gender gets flipped as well? like girl gets her childhood best friend turned boyfriend stolen from her....by chad mcthundercock? i think it could have some cool storybeats. like maybe you try to become all masculine and shit to out boyfriend your boyfriends new boyfriend, or try to sneak estrogen into chad mcthundercocks to make him less appealing to your ex-boyfriend. oe steroids, if your ex is into femboys, and so on and so fourth
>>688338598>Extra and CCC>gacharetarded secondary
>>688293771>Go get a fucking wife and see how it feels.You identify with the cuck?
>>688355776>I dont mind losing to anyone>But i refuse to lose to myself!Kino.
my country has a reality TV show where a bunch of "nerds" & normie whores live in a house with the purpose of possibly getting together. the "nerds" were supposed to introduce the women to their nerdy interests and one dude showed up in a complete Archer cosplay.I know it's somewhat unrelated but I thought it was funny.
>>688350389>futaYou were fucked from the beginning you massive faggotThat entire progression is just different forms of denial for lusting after cockJust go find a dude to fuck, you'd probably be happier not being in constant denial and gay dudes will fuck basically anyone
>>688363428Video? What county and show? Sounds hilarious
>>688365613Found a vidhttps://youtu.be/4cN6n3AI_kMskip to 3:47
>>688293771If they could find "true love" they wouldn't focus on NTR. Since they do, it becomes obvious that they can't find "true love".
I can't believe my husbando would do this to me. At least sleep with someone attractive.
>>688350436>do this 5 years ago>escort was a nice girl>sex is good, still have time and we chill there talking about random stuff while cuddling and sucking me off>get along nicely, stays for a bit longer with nos ex while drinking coffee>"you're too good to be doing this. Guys like you will get destroyed if you keep hiring escorts like me.">Tell her I can't find these "chill, intimate sex with or without love" anywhere else since all girls do are hookups or don't wanna put effort into relationships, and she's one of the few I enjoyed myself thoroughly>condescending smile, kisses, hugs me and says "then focus on yourself, you're worth more than any thot. I'd give you a chance, but I ruined my life enough to not want to drag anyone else down with me."Never hired another escort. Just pisses me off how cold and apathic people are with relationships and sex. Specially the later, a lot of people seems mroe focused on selfish pleasure or the morals around it than enjoying intimate time with someone they allegedly claimed to want to be with.I think about the escort a lot too. Didn't develop feelings for her but I hate that that day was one of the most human I ever felt. Hope she's doing okay out there.>
>>688294290He's one of those "Weak but Skilled", Batman-like characters, with a broken ability that can be powerwanked into oblivion if you really want to, that never got to show what he's truly capable of in original VN due to reasons.This combination of factors lead to endless debates on where he should stands powerlevel wise.
>>688366190Don't forget the classic cope "I'm doing the cucking!"
>>688367107she was either starting to get attached to you or was worried you were getting attached to her. Either was bad for business, so she cut you of.
>>688355776fabled that
>>688367107Damn, imagine being friendzoned by a hooker
>>688366106Basiert.
>>688367107This didnt happen.
>>688293771Lmao this loser speaks from experience
>>688360564RumiRumi’s never gonna cosplay him, is she?
>>688368405Yea that's such an unlikely event! My hooker truly loves me!.... Bruh.
>>688368352
>>688355806>>688355154If you try to force yourself to stop, it only gets stronger.If you try not to think about it, it gets stronger as well, because there is the underlying implication that you HAVE to abstain. It reinforces the idea that there is something wrong with you.If you give in, it also gets stronger, it's an addiction after all.Have you ever heard that love and hate are two sides of the same coin? The moral of the story is that both negative and positive attention attract, they reinforce and multiply the behavior. The only thing that dissipates feelings is neutral attention.You already know of this fact by intuition. Do normies HATE any of these fetishes with a passion? No, they think it's weird, they might laugh at it, but 3 seconds later forget about it and move on. It's impossible to love (or hate) something you don't care about. They are immune in a sense. (part 1/2)
>>688374182(continuation)So finally, here is what you do. To naturally lose that interest, we practice acceptance. Acceptance does not mean liking the way things are, or not wanting to change, or that you Like to derive pleasure from it. Instead, acceptance only means recognizing that in fact, the pleasure exists and is present. But if you do NOT like the fact that you like it, then you can use that feeling in your favor. Also take into consideration: "How does that make me feel?", "how would I feel if this feeling never went away?" ask without trying to answer, just feel it. "Wow, that makes me feel kinda bad" or "I feel good". Observe without thinking. What this exercise is doing is aligning your brain with your true desires, not your addiction.In summary: Let the thoughts run free, without blocking or purposefully wandering in them; See how the thoughts make you feel, without rationalizing and seeking deeper meanings or explanations (do nothing, explanations turn into denial and cope, reinforcing the problem); Accept the difficult feelings without wishing for them to go away.Don't block thoughts. Feel without thinking (without rationalizing), accept the feelings.Good Luck
Shirou is not extra's protagThat scene kinda ruined the heroines for meAll of them
>>688367107I hired a hooker once after a girl I thought I was serious was kind of imploded. Felt bad during and after the sex, didn't enjoy my time. Hooker noticed and felt bad, even offered to refund my money but I said no that it was ok and we chatted a bit before going our separate ways. She texted me some time after and wanted to meet again (as a client) but I ghosted her because I felt fucking pathetic.
>>688346203>apparently he has a wife but she does not show up in the game at all.She literally does though. Your sister is his wife.
>>688293691>Mahoyo event >random NTR joke about Shirou and Shiki for some reasons???
>>688317717Zero was a huge success and it was basically a stealth reverse harem, with bunch of unstable chads fighting over Saber and her lusting over a married man with a kid
>>688293771I almost had a virgin wife from a cult, I dodged a bullet by betraying her before she could betray me.
>>688350282Ritsuka literally summons female servants so they can fuck other men despite them owing him sex
>>688294290The answer is schizophrenic because the author can't decide between nerfing him and buffing him. Though, he is between mid-high in term of power which is still actually puny compare to shit like Arcueid, and other broken shit in the verse.
>>688351382Giwtwm
>>688376742It was a huge success because Urobuchi was involved and Nasu promoted his works directly in the visual novels. It also had a good anime.
>>688374182>>688374267nta, but thanks. what you described is kind of how i rid my head of the bbc and cuck shit years back. funny its because of that shit that i discovered stoic philosophy which also improved pretty much my entire life afterwards. suffering can have a purpose.
>>688293691This unironically ruined the game for me and I'm happy they're removing it in the remake
>>688361116Yep there's a doujin where a harem of girls get the MC stolen by a fat ojisan It has a sequel too
>>688310713Avalon made him autistic about swordsSomething something vaccines
>>688374552>>688367107Sorry to hear that anon
>>688378163Name? Sounds familiar.
>>688308729Kino
>>688293691>game has bittersweet NTR
>>688378540[Kome Nouka (Komezawa)] Heroine Race Nukegake Oji-san. (Ge)
>>688374267Thanks anon this is the best advice I've ever read on this godforsaken site known as 4chan
>>688374267Might as well as recommend him to meditate on top of that.
People keep defending this cuckge and I really can't understand it. I'm going to mention every single cuckge moment in this cuckshit of a game that I can remember and fuck me there's a lot.>Kiyohime supposedly sees (You) as Anchin, Nasu outright writes in his blog how Anchin got summoned, all the girl in chaldea wanted to fuck him (?????), including Kiyohime, but he was a faggot and wanted to fuck Kojiro, so Kiyohime burned him and returned to Guda>Tamamo goes "MUH HAKUNO IS MUH TRUE LOVE, YOU AREN'T HIM LMAO" with Nasu going "btw Hakuno isn't (You)">fuckery around Hakuno in general, really, will mention more of it>Horta want a reverse harem of pretty boys>yurishit all over the place with Okita and Nobu>The entire fuckwardly with Quetz mats>the "let's bait people with Nito, btw she's going to be around Ozzy 99% of the time, and then get shipped with Batschizo in her last ever appearance">Nightingale and Dantes, because fuck both waifufags and yumes>Medb entire existence>EOR2 with the Drake from Chaldea, YOUR VERY DRAKE that you summoned, is getting mindraped and corrupted into a whore who fucks and kill countless men>CCC event with Melt supposedly as the heroine and for (You) but lol lmao her bond CE is fucking Hakuno, also she's still lusting for EMIYA and now Tristan as well>Kiara entire existence as a NTR woman>Summer 2, MUH GOKU, (sanzan) MUH TESLA AND EDISON AND HOMELESS (Helena)>EOR3 and Musashi lusting about every single guy, cementing her as a whore and constant NTR doujins because of that>EOR4 has Circe lusting over Robin, we will return to that shit soon enough>Semiramis presented as for (You) for Valentine, ACTUALLY she's for Amakuso, thanks for the money>valentine ever since then became nothing but cuckshit event in general>summer 3 has BB lusting over Robin, the outright travesty that is Medb AGAIN.>Kama fucks countless people in Ooku, also lusting on Murachanga in summer ver>Cucksummer in general holy shit>Circe moment
>>688378891The NTR aspect makes me feel terrible but thanks for the source.
>>688293771The only girl to hit and flirt with me all year long was a little girl
>>688293691>>game has surprise NTRBahamut lagoon and live a live
>>688311629Casko girlraping Rin is so hot
