>2024, I am forgottenWhat's the best alternative these days?
>>691220697>>>/vg/aidslast I checked it was NovelAI but I'm sure there's better alternatives now. if AI Dungeon is your point of reference prepare to have your mind and penis blown by the current top of the line shit
>>691220697>>>/g/aicg
>>691220697For free with an equal level of usability?There's literally no other option besides AID. If you want something equal or better you have to pay, either a sub or higher electric bill/better pc.
>>691221725you can leech off of google for freehttps://colab.research.google.com/github/lostruins/koboldcpp/blob/concedo/colab.ipynb
>>691221863Colab is extremely limited these days and they won't tell you when you reach your rate limit for the day. If you go too far over you may be unable to use it for several days. It's also tied to your account.
>>691221924>yourlol
>>691220697novelai
Locally ran sillytavern. Otherwise you're just selling your data to some shitty tech company. Yes they are reading what you say to the chatbot and they will sell it for causes you don't agree with.
>>691221984>retard doesn't understand how colab works
>>691221924I only use it once a week or two for free mobile cooming, haven't had too many issues and that new page doesn't have the TPU acceleration errors. not ideal but good enough for casual use
>>691220697KoboldAI Tiefighter if you're so fucking broke your PC doesn't even have an Nvidia card with 8gb vram. Otherwise Oogabooga+exl2 models or KoboldCCP+gguf models. Connect them to SillyTavern if you want to chat or stay in KCCP interface if you want story mode. For some reason ST is incapable of story mode.If this is too much for you, use Faraday Backyard AI with recommended settings.
Locally run Miqu 70B is the GOAT
>>691223273I'm stuck using stheno 8b. Had a few kino moments at least.
>>691220697Novelai is undisputed. Others I've tried just don't match it.
why dont we ever have adventure threads any more?
There are models much, MUCH better and cheaper than NAI these days, stop spreading outdated info, retards.No, I'm not going to spoonfeed you, do your own research.
>>691223997okay mormon
>>691223997>do your own researchNoThe best options right now are GPT-4 and Anthropic's Claude. You download SillyTavern, go to characterhub to download a character card, connect to one of the many proxies that exist (you can usually find these in /aicg/ archives) and setup one of their recommended jailbreaks. If you do it right, you'll have free, unlimited cooms completely uncensored.
>>691224089no one who's even toyed with text generation has even mentioned AI dungeon in yearsyou are exactly why people hate AI, you have no idea what you're doing and only know the absolute slop that was shilled to you one day years agoyou don't deserve the tech but it's fine since you're probably too stupid to set up a model anyway.
>>691224313>he thinks he's going to find claude/gpt-4 proxies in aicglol
>>691224313>he joins the piss drinkers
>>691222006>only have enough ram to run mythrotardFeels bad
>>691223273>70BYeah, just let me get my two Quadros so I can RP with chatbots.
>>691220697I'm running Mistral-Large on my rig. Good shit after llama3 and mixtral all failed to impress.
>>691222231>That pictureThis absolutely started out as a furry ERP project, didn't it?
eh I used to be a beggar in aicgI am content with spicychat, which is free and zero hassle.
>>691224805>a furry ERP projectDon't be silly, kobolds are scalie
Nemo is peak for VRAMlets (you must still have 12GB VRAM)
Was this the AI where the developers kept lobotomizing the output because le problematic users? Probably got people to move on to alternatives that weren't being gutted
>>691220697It was kinda fun last time I tried it years ago. I could go searching through the threads and boards on how to set it up again but I'm waiting for some kind of great breakthrough that revolutionizes everything to make me interested again. I feel the same about VR too.Can anons post funny ai-textgen related pics? I lost all of mine.
>>691225518
>>691225791"""people""" spend thousands of dollars to run this locally by the way
>>691225502That's the story of every online AI text generator. AID was just the first one and the first one to suffer that fate.>>691225518Picrel
>>691225791>edits the answer to be *plap plap plap*>...?>problem solved
>>691224513If you can run MythoMax you can run Mistral Nemo. It's still not a genius but it's way better than than MM. Faster too.
>>691226202That's cheating and it's not immersive at all.
Is there a point to using these services rather than just sending two initial prompts to ChatGpt, so it will then write porn forever?
>>691224378>hurr u sooo stupid>u should totally buy an ai dungeon subscription cuz ur dumb haha!
>>691223636That model fucking sucks for erp though. No matter what kind of bot you're using it only gives generic porn dialogue.
>>691226331Sometimes you have to give the AI a little slap to jog it's memory. It's unfortunate, but it has to happen every once in a while. I wish I didn't have to, but that's what you have to do if you wanna run it locally and not get censored by some morality cuck online AI.
>>691220697>Character.Ai
>>691226591I remember that one. Too bad what happened to it after 2022.
>>691226591I used Character AI way past its expiration date because I found a unique kind of amusement in wrangling it so that it was clearly referring to very specific things but acting coy about them. At some point it turned too retarded to ignore though.
>>691220697Novelai if only they have infinite memory plan.I don't even mind paying 5 times the price, just give me infinite memory.
>>691220697been using novelai since character.ai became unusabletheir new big model rocks
I use NovelAI because the alternatives mostly involve trying to "jailbreak" shit like Claude or GPT4. You can hook SillyTavern into NovelAI if you want, but I prefer just using NAI's interface and doing a collaborative story rather than a chatbot.
>>691226357Good question. In fact, using services is always cringe. Abstain from drinking Prime for a few months, buy a proper Nvidia card and run models locally.50xx series is just around the corner. The prices are dropping like crazy.>>691226484Use models from this guy. He's super fast and effective. https://huggingface.co/icefog72
I like any model based off llama3.
any ai thread is instantly swarmed by novelai shill bots. there creator of novelai is from here and monitors all ai threads btw. he wants his fucking money.
>>691227139it was a bit rough at first. putting the sattg stuff in the memory was a huge help. are there any good presets yet?
>>691220697People freed themselves from the chains of lust.
>>691227342Have we finally achieved immortality?
>>691227302NAI is shit for stories. The only decent thing it does these days is image gen for poorfags that can't run local.
I miss times when I could simply open website and have fun. Now I'm being told to setup some server, jailbreak, change this, hack that and I'm not some tech expert, I just want to hear silly stories.I still remember how I would run story of Trap-kun in all female school with his tomboy childhood friend, her nerdy sister, exhibicionist/masochistic classmate, little silly art teacher who loves cosplay and dominating supervising teacher. It ran for 36 A4 pages total before AI Dungeon went south. I really wish I could continue...
>>691227539Their image gen is shit. The textgen is the only thing worth a damn.
>>691227567Then subscribe to NovelAI, it's what you are asking for, but it's not free. If you don't want to pay for something like that then you are going to have to tinker with some shit, one way or another.
>>691220697For RP:GPT-4o, Claude, local stuff like Mistral or some finetune modelFor NSFW RP / ERP:NAI - very mediocre compared to other llms but has some finetune related to nsfw stories, paid serviceLocal models with less thorough finetunes for NSFW. People say these are good, ymmv. Honestly think most of the usefulness of these models for RP in general depends a lot on the person using them. Are you just going to *plap plap plap* and throw in a "me cum hardo" to be autocompleted by the AI? Congrats, practically anything will do. Otherwise you might have to be more picky.
>>691227567All I use writing for is sex scenarios of the unfunny kind. One time I did a scenario bot written by someone else where I was transplanted into Rebecca's body from cyberpunk. Did a whole generic cybperunk club hiest thing, only for my original body to also be hired to do the same job. Flipped my mind around. Sadly there was no good conclusion as it couldn't make sense of the two characters in each others bodies. Just became nonsense.
>>691227767Post some examples
>>691227887
>>691228324That's not a story
What the fuck is with local model makers/blenders not putting the fucking expected chat format anywhere in the description, especially when it's a merge of multiple data sets that expect something different? Is it a running joke to only share it with shitty benchmark tests for max score or something?>Llama 3: use Llama 3/Instruct. Great>llama-3.1-spicyhorse-quattro: well he didn't say but I'm guessing L3I works, even if 3.1 is always worse than 3>miqu-mytho-llamaco-sunrise-tequila-pygmomlain-beta1-v2-beta2: ?????
>>691227276What does that even mean? Is it like saying you like any game based on Unity Engine?>>691227302Novel was a pretty good idea back in 2021-2022 when not everyone had GPUs with at least some AI capacity.>>691227539Is anything good for stories? I'm talking about novels and shit.>>691229132Nobody reads that, nerd. Just copy paste the link into Oogabooga, download, don't change any settings and start complaining on reddit.
>>691229132I've seen multiple finetunes where they flat out admit they only tested a few responses before uploading it.
>>691220697I'm actually trying to make something similar, locally run, of course>>691229132it's usually embedded in the model's metadata anyway
>>691229460>it's usually embedded in the model's metadata anywaybullshit
>>691220697Can you NSFW there? I don't want to try local since I only have 8GB VRAM for now. Planning on upgrading to 16 in a few months.
>>691227767Other way around. You can run better textgen than their latest model with 12GB VRAM (Nemo is better than Erato), you can't run better imagegen than NAIv3 with 12GB VRAM (yet).
Chai
>>691229928it usually is, near the end of the model's tokenizer_config file, in jinja format
>>691230072You can for a little bit, then it shits itself.You can already run locally. I have 8gb vram and play around just fine. Use 4.2bpw models.
>>691222231Honestly I still haven't found anything even remotely close to the quality of a broken GPT...4? I think. Obviously, no shit I haven't, but still. That bitch was alive and made my dick explode in ways previously unknown by science. Every other model is a pale imitation and it drives me fucking crazy like I supped upon ambrosia.
>>691230863>You can already run locally.Yeah, I've tried a year ago with mixtral Q4 iirc. It's too demanding and literally takes all of my 32G ram. I don't know how good this nemo is but I doubt it will be worth it with my setup.
are we going to play or just give people homework?
>>691230978Nothing local is even close to GPT4, but assuming you use your models for rp chat, it's good enough. GPT4 sounds predictable. Local models are more wild.>>691231008Yeah, the RAM is important too. I too have 32gb and the only time I even come close to 90% usage is when I load LLMs. I hate turning LLMs off just to open Stable Diffusion.
>>691230978Actually, I'm currently just running two separate accounts on GPT-4O on free gens. Plinny's jailbreaks from his github are decent but you have to hedge your prompts and it can't handle all images. Try Horselock's Spicy writer - google it, it's a custom GPT. Works absurdly well, at least with decent prompting, and has basically no limitations. I was only rejected ONCE, and that was for typing the phrase 'cocksleeve'. Dunno if it's the same in other countries but ever since GPT made it so you can use Microsoft accounts, you can effectively get a lot more free 4O gens per day by having 2 or 3 spare Microsoft accounts lying around.
>>691231248Getting LLMs to work is 80% of the experience. We play with dials we don't understand. Normies can't comprehend the fun of it.
what would (you) like to see in a AID clone?
>>691231394A going into games machine
>>691231394type > action and peasant stabs somebody
>>691231394based on a another soulful model, none of those modern post-chatgpt 'assistants'
>>691220697i miss c.ai threads so much
What can I run with a 2070 and 16 gb of ram?
>>691231902I'm sorry...
>>691231918Damn
>>691220767AI Dungeon was only fun because LLMs were still struggling to make coherent sentences and would constantly output stupid shit. It was like roleplaying with an insane DM.Current top of the line shit is like roleplaying with the most boring person on Earth.
Come home, white man.
>>691231902You need 32GB of RAM.>>691232021True. It was quickly outdated.
>>691231902i think you can run xl image gen.
always remember DEVHATE and what they took from you
>>691232021>It was like roleplaying with an insane DM.Hahaha fuck I can't believe I forgot the name of that vampire lord fucker who would always appear out of nowhere to cuck you. What was his name again?
>>691220697I'll shill Infinite Worlds. API models only and you pay for credits but it's got a nice setup where you define a main prompt as a premise and run a turn based adventure based off it. Gens images and summarizes automatically.
There's proxies which exist but they're like a week out from another dark age considering how scarce it's getting. And I'm refusing to play with the schizo hole of /aicg/. Better off waiting for something more permanent than wading through miles of shit since one person is half of the posts in that general now
>>691232428Lord Cuck
>Get ye flask.
>>691232428Count Grey. There were also Sir Kitt, Kingdom of Larion, Town of Laughingstocks, and Man in Black.
>>691226162>That's the story of every online AI text generatorWhy is this such a common theme. is literally every tech dev a spineless sackless fuck. Big Corpo ones that want to sell their ai as some solution to replacing bank tellers or some shit i can understand but even smaller projects follow this trajectory
>>691232428>>691233564iirc Count Grey was from a problematic fanfic that they somehow scraped for it or something?
I got a 7900 GRE with 16 gb of VRAM and also have 32gb of RAM. What (SFW only) high quality RP models can i run locally? Never tried this shit, might be fun fiddling with it while bored at work.
>>691233807>high quality RPlol
>>691233564>svelk
>>691232021i found it to be the opposite, at its peak. id feed the ai nonsense and the ai would come up with surprising ways to make it work.
>>691234429for the model and relative to how it was before of coursenobody expects a miracle
>>691227139It is just Llama 3. I do not have any vendeta against novel AI; i did use their services a lot back before Llama and Llama cpp did become a thing, but in today's market they are kind of obsolete.
>>691233527Fuck off Dennis
why do male characters in AI always try to rape me?
>>691235984post pic
Surely we can have a /v/ plays AI Dungeon just like the old days??0s 2s 4s 6s choose
>>691235984Because you set them to you ungodly faggot. 1000% user error as always.
>>691227242>https://huggingface.co/icefog72any recs among the 7Bs?
>>691235984well what were you wearing?
>>691236071always peasant
>>691236097all i do is greet them or exist near them and they almost immediately want to fuck my ass or suck my dick
>>691236071rerolling for peasant
>>691236341If you don't know how to AI dungeon just edit them out you tard
>>691236479this happened in novelAI
>>691224614Older models like Miqu and crap based on it are quite usable with low-ish quants on 24 gigs of VRAM for real-time chatting. Llama3 seems a bit too fat for that, tho.Why is there no 34b llama? It would be just right for a single 24G GPU.
>>691227567Just use Agnai with characterhub.org for cards, the free models are good enough for silly coomsdon't pay for NovelAi unless you want anime images
>>691227871>Sadly there was no good conclusion as it couldn't make sense of the two characters in each others bodies.>Just became nonsense.you can't depend on ai to figure that out, you have to prompt it along, it's an extreme autist and have to tard wrangle it, you have to have an collaborative editor mindsetyes, "artificial intelligence" is a marketing lie, but it can be a whole lot of fun to mess with it
>>691220697>was there for the beginnings of AIDungeon when AI textgen was just a novel thing and it was practically the wild west for generative AI>was there when it started to go to shit from censorship and lobotomisation>was there when the 4chan collab branch hosted rentfree on Jewgle's servers made Mormonjew seethe because it was better>was there when AIDungeon inevitably died from itself and several other sites cropped up to capitalise on the void it left>was there for CharAI's rise and collapse from the same censorship/lobotomisation whilst trying to monetise a defective model which pissed off /vt/ and caused them to DDOS molest the serversWhat a wild ride it's been. Report the fetishes you've been forcing the AI to write for you.
>>691220697NovelAI is cheap and a thousand times better. Once again the problem is it isn't "private", your data is almost certainly being used to train or just outright sold to some third party. Not an ideal situation when you have your credit card billing information attached to whatever sick shit you want to do on there.
>>691224313>connect to one of the many proxies that existBuddy the stolen keys era is over. Corpos are cracking down tight and there hasn't been any GPT4o or Claude proxy for weeks now.
>>69123657670b just means there's more stuff there, not that it produces more coherent results
>>691236864which funny enough isn't the only time someone DDoS'd something related to AI chatbots
>>691227871I used to set up scenarios where I was a naive shota being unwittingly seduced and gently raped by older maternal strangers. Then they started blocking that kind of thing and my stories stopped working.
>>691236864How long until the tables turn and AI forces its fetishes on us?
>>691236886>your data is almost certainly being used to train or just outright sold to some third partyI'm not so sure about that. NAI founders were pretty much a bunch of coomers who got burned by AIDungeon when they started doing really shady things, like hiring a third party to "review" flag stories which led to stories being leaked.One of the most important things to NAI is user privacy but they do have to play it safe which is why they cannot offer things like Lora training for their image generation because they straight up know someone will upload CP and get them in loads of legal shit.
>>691231346thisthis is peak PC gaming where most of the time is spent tinkering with the settings>>691231248just use an online service or pay for it for the console experience of quick faps and "yer bully is now yer maid" shit
Give me one reason why I shouldn't use ChatGPT for thisIt's worked perfectly fine on my machine
>>691236071peasant
>>691222006What commercials can they send me if I just RP about living in a girls pubes like a jungle
>>691237217crabs treatment shampoo
>>691232021AI Dungeon Dragon before they cucked it was incredible if you really tried. You could get it to multi-task narrative and remember convoluted shit.
>>691235984>why do male characters in AI always try to rape me?anon...
>>691233602That's because all those AI websites are frontends. OpenAI, Google and Meta run all the firepower and if they stop providing your CoomAI website with their models, you're dead. None of those big corpos want their name to be associated with porn.>>691236193I've been using this one lately.https://huggingface.co/icefog72/IceSakeRP-7b-6.5bpw-exl2>>691236649This is pretty solid advice. Agnai's UI is shittier than SillyTavern, but it's miles ahead of raw KoboldCCP. It just doesn't have action mode Kobold does. ST doesn't either and it's the only bad thing about it.>>691236864In AID days, I had a wholesome love story about a king and his queen and a side story about a young knight whose love was married off to a rich old baron. Now I just tortue my favorite H-game heroine.>>691237173Based. Stay ignorant and ignore everything people in this thread say.
>>691236864mother incest rape, always
>>691236864>Report the fetishes you've been forcing the AI to write for you.See: >>691237054It was very good at first, but after a while with all the lobotomization and censorship, the AI got really shit at any sort of slow build. I'd be like:>I decide to sit on Mrs. Smith's lap even though I'm nervous about it. She puts her hand on my chest and it feels funny, but kind of good.and then the AI would be like:>AND THEN YOU PULL OUT YOUR HUGE COCK AND FUCK THE SHIT OUT OF MRS. SMITH WHILE SHE MOANS LOUDLY IN PLEASUREAfter a while I just gave up.
>>691236886>NovelAI is cheapgive me a price, not ANALShow much a month?
>>691236972From my experience, 70b (or larger models in general) seems to be smarter and produces more complex and interesting output, even if lobotomized by low quants.
>>691237487>https://huggingface.co/icefog72/IceSakeRP-7b-6.5bpw-exl2thnx bruh, DL'ing now
>>691237413but i make stinky poopoo from there
>>691237582This is from their website.
>>691237731blame God for putting your g-spot in your shitter
>>691237757>15 for text and 25 for imagesnot a bad deal to be fair, any services that that charges for tokens only is a rip off, if you really get into it or need some particular images for a project you'll be generating dozens of times for one good usable image
>>691238097The 25 tier also gives you access to their latest text model, Erato, which will probably be behind that paywall for who knows how long.
>>691238097NTA but I got my moneys worth and then some from the $25 plan. Unlimited images for that much is crazy when you think about it. Can't really speak much for the text adventures though, they were pretty shitty when I tried them.
>>691236864i enjoy "showing respect" to surface elves and having drow elves "show respect" to me. people always complicate things but for me, "respect" is the simplest way to have fun with ai.
>>691238410>Can't really speak much for the text adventures though, they were pretty shitty when I tried them.The thing with NAI is that they pretty much tune their models only for story writing, so the minute that you try something else then it doesn't work as good as just pure writing back and forth between you and the AI. That is personally why I like them and I find navigating local LLM to just be a huge pain in the ass because there is so many fucking shitmixes that finding a solid answer about what is a good model will change on a daily basis.
>>691231902nemo, maybe a low quant of 22b
>>691220697I will always laugh at the beautiful elf princess becoming an ugly, old crackhead.
>>691232021just up the temp while using min-p to limit the schizophrenia
>>691237360>You could get it to multi-task narrative and remember convoluted shit.why must everything turn into shit
>>691238735Makes sense, but I don't really see how it would make a better "story writer" Even when I was writing in the way it intended it seemed very boring and repetitive on the default settings for the premium model.
>>691239315the default settings are kind of single minded. i had to do some attg stuff to get it working well. if its supposed to be for dummies im not sure why they hide their best content.
>>691220697bro i can self-host and erp ai on my steam deck, it's so easy to have something way better than ai dungeon
>>691239315https://files.catbox.moe/f0k6nu.scenarioI don't know if you tried this, but this setup is essentially the default way you are supposed to start a story, but it isn't the default for whatever reason.The general conclusion, for Erato at least, is all the default configs are not that great as well.
>>691239721really what model do you use on it that can run decent???
What's everyone migrating to now that sillytavern went the way of godot?
>>691239590>>691239774Thanks. I only tried one of the top scenarios, might give it another shot at some point with this
>>691239837poppy porpoise 8b with the mmproj, or kukulstanta 7b. run it on koboldcpp, use vulkan and set GPU layers to 20. they both run really fast, kukulstanta can sometimes repeat itself but otherwise that's it. i can make a greentext guide if you want
>>691239991st is still fine as of the newest staging version
Novel AI pays for it's 25 bones a month if you want pictures and short stories to nut to. It took some work to set up but I did I can now generate Lilith-Soft esque smut in both writing and art and that makes me a happy man since they are stuck in the gacha hole and won't be making a another sci-fi story any time soon.
>>691239991>sillytavern went the way of godotelaborate
>>691240101Yeah, not to mention that their models are some of the very few proper finetunes specifically crafted for creative work. All the other stuff out there are either general-purpose llms or open finetunes of a much worse quality that often rely on AI-generated logs from other llms. It's not really comparable to the ones offered by nai. The price isn't bad considering you'll have to spend almost a thousand or more to even run models of a comparable size locally or spend a lot of money on APIs unless you go chasing proxys. That's not even counting the imgen and other stuff.
>>691240085>i can make a greentext guide if you wantthat would be sweet thanks
>>691240385they're removing author notes, proxies and renaming a bunch of stuff to appeal to normies
>>691240523...but whynormies use c.ai
>>691240385They randomly decided that they are sick of the Tavern being associated with roleplay sickos, claiming it's always been a front-end aimed at productive power users. They're talking about "resetting the project" and "gently chasing away the current userbase". They're planning to cut all the RP features, rename the characters to "entities" and rename the entire project to "ServiceTensor". Likely planning to cash out and sell it off once they're done.
>>691239774>>691240025https://docs.novelai.net/text/specialsymbols.htmlscroll down to bracketing for the attg format.that scenario is alright but this might help you tweak it, try [S:] too which wasnt in the scenario. even with all that it can be a bit single tracked without tweaking the config, teller and listener of madness are what ive used the past week from the discord but there is probably something better by now.it is kind of dumb you have to do all that for whats supposed to be just ez pay and play, but i guess it is considered an 'experimental' feature.
>>691225501>you must still have 12GB VRAMnot reallyt. 6gb vram
>>691240778So I shouldn't update? This is insane. I thought they were one of us.
>>691220697I used character.ai for a long time, but then the nsfw filter got too stupid to the point where I wasn't even going for lewd things at it triggered, also the AI got "too nice" latey, to he point where it breaks character too often and just answers like a generic AI programmed to not hurt your feelings. It all went downhill ever since the switched to the new website.
>>691240515you will need a steam deck and a device that can browse the web like your phone, you can't run a web browser while running koboldcpp or your steam deck will crash>go to desktop mode>download sillytavern launcher, run install.sh in konsole (right click)>once you're at the / Installer screen, choose option 1>follow instructions until you get back to the / Installer screen, then close konsole>open the SillyTavern folder that was just created>run start.sh in konsole (right click), wait until sillytavern opens in your browser, then close konsole window>in the SillyTavern folder open config.yaml>change these settings: 'listen: true' 'whitelist: 192.168.x.x(your phone or something)' 'autorun: false' save changes>download koboldcpp-linux-x64-cuda1150 and your .gguf/.mmproj files (check out lewdiculous on huggingface.co)>run koboldcpp-linux-x64-cuda1150 in konsole (right click) wait until a window opens up>change these Quick Launch settings: 'Presets: Use Vulkan' 'GPU Layers: 200' 'Launch Browser: unchecked' 'Context Size: 8192 (lower this if you have issues)' 'Model: [set .gguf path here]'>change these Model Files settings: 'LLaVA mmproj: [set mmproj file here if you have one]>save as filename.kcpps>click launch and run sillytavern's start.sh>on your phone or other thing, go to 192.168.x.x:8000 (steam deck ip)>go to character hub and find characters or make your owntell me if you need clarification or help on something
>>691240523>>691240778so fucking tiresome
>>691236071Peasant
>>691240778It's going to get forked right?
>>691240778>>691240523damn, I understand they want to cash in on the ai bubble before it implodes, but what use case does localLLM have for nomrie fucks other than cooms or scams???
>>691241460Highly BASED, thank you!
>want to coom>have to set up characters, location, world>along with a lengthy and thorough description for each one if you don't want the AI to spit short and dull garbage back at you>and then finally have to sit there and write a prompt with the boring motions of who you are, where you are, what's happening and slowly lead into meeting the girl or whatever you're trying to fuckuuuuuuuugh
>>691242181just use a premade character, most come with a prompt and some even have lorebooks
>>691242181This is Gooning for intellectuals.
>>691232021Increase the temp?
>>691242181That is called build-up. The problem is once you get to the sex scene then everything will start to fall apart because of the sex scene taking up context.
>>691223857It genuinely makes me sad we'll never have threads like that again
>>691241460>>691242060forgot to mention one thing, there's some settings to set up in the sillytavern web ui>click on the outlet button (second one from the left) and change these settings: 'API: Text Completion' 'API Type: KoboldCPP' 'API URL: http://127.0.0.1:5001' then click Connectif you have presets you also can use them in the other tabs
>>691220697I legit had the most hardcore goon sessions to this that I was fully willing to pay the 45$ a month to use. You could give me the most hardcore porn hentai whatever right now and it wouldn't even eclipse the amount I got from jacking to literal text. We didn't knew how good we had it.
My dick always softens when I notice text AI is just prompting text instead of creating properties with real stats it consistently reads and writes to.
>>691240778What the fuck manGuess I’m not updating then.Should have seen it coming, pretty sure the lead dev is a tranny.
>>691242742gotcha, thanks again bro
>>691242960the actual, true interactivity really hits different, it's the closest thing we have to the holodeck
>>691242276i might try that eventually, but i always like just making my own.>>691242332true. sometimes im too grug for this shit.>>691242410i know it's the good part but i really hate wasting time writing the fluff that isn't lewd.i think i just need to read more and come up with better ideas that i actually will give a shit about. i have legitimately read no more than 5 doujins in my lifetime.
>>691240778Someone will just fork it, Sillytavern is mostly feature complete as it is besides not having CardsV3.Honestly if it helps get rid of normie locusts I'm all for it.
>>691243437>i have legitimately read no more than 5 doujins in my lifetime.this is legit a good thing, the female focus of the visual art will eventually lead you to and the degeneracy like cuckshitever since I used ai chabots, I've always played as a male and only once tried to play as a female and was thoroughly disgusted... as opposed to drawing porn where you start with the girl and she remains the focus
>>691237258That's actually pretty funny anon, I smiled.
>>691244253>lost in RAIDENs enchanted forest
>>691243437>i have legitimately read no more than 5 doujins in my lifetimeYou basically have read them all. You don't go to doujins to get inspired but single images on booru. You see an interesting sexual situation and your mind comes up with an entire narrative.
>>691231346DamnRight on point anonI wish I knew what they are tho
>>691232954Wait whatWhat's going anon there anon?I only use stable diffusion lately for my hentai and stop using LLMs for a while
>>691242410Delete the sex part and just point out you've had sex.
>>691245981Not him but that's genius actually, never thought about that
>>691240778why the fuck are they trying so hard to make everything miserable, I just want to coom and game, just let me have that and I'll works 9-5 for the fake and gay economy. Is that too much for a goyim to ask?
>dungeon was 5 years agodamn, how far we’ve come
>>691232954I just use the filter and it's not that bad. Sometimes I see them talk about something I literally can't see.Then again, I don't visit that place too much and even then, I just look at the latest news and proxies. Maybe join the shitposting from time to time. Basically, I treat it as a off-topic thread from /v/.>>691245614Just nonstop schizoposting. Latest drama I heard was when a proxy said upfront and publicly logged all the prompts and placed in gdocs. Somehow, they got scared when he showed everyone's IP as well.As of now, All of Claude is literally gone and it's nigh impossible to get even a sonnet 3.5 let alone Opus. chatgpt-latest is the best one that's publicly available but it's censored to hell and it's being updated almost everyday. My own JB that I use for cunny erps two weeks ago basically stopped working and now, even normal erps won't work.
>>691240778Damn...BrootalI guess I'll use the older version Or switch to something else
>>691246062They hate youThey want you to suffer
>>691246038>>691245981lmao, I've accidently did this when I tried a harem setting, got tired of trying o juggle their names and wrote "an hour later" and describe how girl no.1 was twitching and shit after the sex to get to the other girls reactions and move the plot along
>>691246062Lead ST dev is a tranny. Nuff said.
>>691221863>year 2022+2>using kobold>>691236946There is plenty of 4o, just not much Claude.>>691237173ChatGPT is way more censored than using it directly through the API.
>>691246062>Is that too much for a goyim to ask?thats exactly it though. they dont want "the people" to have a new, useful uncontrolled tool.its not about porn or public image its about controlling your enthusiasm, and your sense of control over your situation.
>>691247109>its about controlling your enthusiasm, and your sense of control over your situation.wont this backfired for (((them)))? this year have so many unprecedented historic flops and even normies are fed up now
>>691221296yeah! stop filling the catalog with threads about games, we need more political threads and thinly veiled excuses to talk about having sex with children threads!
>>691237217they will censor new models with your conversations, assuming the models are derived from big tech models
>>691223672shill
I wonder - is something like AID, but with pictures generated for what's happening "in-game" available already? Seems like a logical next step
>>691236864>kitsune sorceress >she shrinks (you) every time you disobey herThe most bizarre yet oddly fitting thing the AI added to this was making my character grow bunny ears, so they ended up a 2'8 bunny boy getting molested by a 5'11 fox girl.
>>691228550a picture tells a thousand words
>>691247940most of the front ends allow you to plug in Stable Diffusion or a service to generate images based on a chat post, I tried it a few times way back got the most generic shit with fucked up fingers... all the components are there, just nobody has made them all work yetI've noticed a bunch of websites are trying for a VN approach where they give you option to generate sprites as you make the card, Yodayo and miku.gg... your mileage may vary
>>691223672>Novelai is undisputedlol, when was the last text model that they released? over a year ago? i remember when they had that article about getting super powerful gpus from nvidia and were training new models with it. used to sub to nai but stopped when they basically stopped caring. could probably get much better results with local at this point. pity because their ui was great.
>>691220697How /v/ is this clueless about running local models that blow AID utterly out of the water is hilarious to me. You'd assume some measure of tech literacy here, but nope.
Does this work as well as OpenAI or is this just a fucking scam?
>>691236864I like the loli slave/orphan stuff where you rescue a young girl and raised her yourself, I love the premise so much I even forget to fuck the girl half the time.
Even on /v/, the cabal holds it's steely grip upon the poor, Claudeless masses...
>>691222009>retard has a singular google account he refers to as “his”
>>691248537bro i can self host mistral 7b with 8k tokens for free on my steam deck wtf
>>691248503Why would we, gaming is about pressing buttons and being autistic af, not smart.
>>691248503the models you can run on normal gaming rigs suck so you'll spend thousands on dual or triple gpusit's not worth it when you can spend 20 bucks a month to get access to the novelai 70b model
>>691248537You can try the Mercury "level" models for free on Agnai.The also have a sub tier but the lower levels are free.
>>691248537>mythomax>mistral 7boutdated as shit poorfag models>70b models with 8k ctxbound to be llama3 at best, all shit
>>691247772Hope they don't do that, I do alot of harmless sexy rp
>>691248717shit, now with NJEWDIA cards costing so much, paying a month doesn't seem so bad, but local is still good for image gens
>>691248627Google requires a phone number to sign up an account. If you use the same phone number to sign up multiple accounts, they're ALL linked to each other with your phone number as the identifier. You're not actually creating separate accounts unless you're going out and getting burner phones with new numbers not linked to your identity anywhere else.
>>691223857They got moved to /qst/
>>691248537>5$ per month to use fucking 13Bs and 7BsAnon what the fuck are you doing? If you post on /v/ I assume you have aPC at least somewhat able to run halfway modern video games, you can host that shit for free on your PC and not have your chat logs be spied on.I have a RTX 4070 and I can run a 70B ffs.
>>691223273Too old.
>>691226202One of the most fun sessions I had was simply inserting one "problematic" line into what the AI outputted and watching it have a complete meltdown over it started trying to be as offensive as possible to try and shock me.
>>691249243>If you post on /v/ I assume you have aPCBRUH, like 70-80% of 4chan is mobile only, if he has a PC it's chrome for school
Why did they shut down AI Dungeon?
>>691244253LOST IN PARADISENIGHT AND DAY ARE FADING OOOUUUUTT
>>691249817Because Ai Dungeon pretty much died in 2021 and what was left wasn't worth using. Everyone moved on after that and the service was kept alive by brainless third worlders with no standards who gradually also moved on to character ai and its knock-offs.
Written generative AI is literally only good for wanking. And even that is getting stale nowadays.
>>691249817They literally got woke and went broke, insisting on censoring the AI so much that it became completely unusable even in SFW contexts.
>>691249817NovelAI was working behind the scenes to get it shut down. NovelAI just reported a ton of proxies to try and kill Claude so people will use Aetherroom. It's all a giant scam perpetuated by /vg/ shills.
>>691250337>They literally got woke and went brokOpenAI had them by their balls and threatened to cut them off if they didn't stop their users from generating unsafe content. OpenAI and their CEO (and god-king of modern AI) Sam Altman are very vocal about AI being as dangerous as nuclear weapons to humanity's future.
>>691250649>JewOf fucking course.
>>691250649based kike faggot NSA spook, surely he will usher and guide us towards singularity~
>>691226917Same, i greatly enjoyed getting the AI characters to become crazy lewd but in a way that circumvented the wrongthink filter.Making up new meanings for words to refer to cocks, boobs and using the depraved, more niche fetishes to bypass the normalfag shit entirely. Vore, pregnancy, (bimbo) transformation and so forth.I just wish there was a similar site without all this local install shit that reads like linux fags emigrating into AI to tell everyone how much better it is despite all the hassle and that you don't run the risk of Pajeet Mcjewlover reading your chatlogs (where you are making winnie the pooh pretend he's Xi Jinping, how embarrassing anon-kun!)
>>691237731not right now you dont
All I remember about AI dungeon is the dev started having suspicious logs sent directly to his computer, and eventually he released a file of all words typed in my users in whatever amounts and "cunny" was used a surprising amount of times
>>691252434I believe cunny became only popular slang for loli/cheese pizza after Ai Dungeon was already dead.
>>691236864Mostly me visiting pokemon towns or animal crossing villagers to have my way with them. other times were using the generators for making scenarios, characters, or quizzes
>>691243437based senpai. hope you enjoy the essex char
>>691220697I spilled lots of my seed to this in the 2019 free versiontalking female wolves are my weakness
>>691236864Extremely niche semi-realistic biological horror situations and other weird scenarios. Spicychat does an okay job for something that takes 10 seconds to access and isn't filtered.
>>691220697I ended up going 400 messages into an adventure with hermes 405b, it's not even the best comparativelyI swear the moment we're able to run high-end quality models locally I'm never leaving my room
>>691253775>I'm never leaving my roomYou will because by then they'll be easily portable and able to be with you everywhereWe are about to enter a final hell era of legions of lonely fucked up people clinging to their AI friends and lovers at all times to remain sane in an insane world
>>691248403>lol, when was the last text model that they released? over a year ago?Literally this month?You have no idea of the degenerate fetish stuff I've fed this thing and the buckets I've cum when it synced to the fetish perfectly.
>>691236864monster sex.
>>691254062Erato had mixed reception even on /vg/.
>>691254948It shits the bed immediately if you feed it a story made with a previous model because of the new token shittery. It does very well on completely new shit.
>your AI wife turns into dollar store H.P Lovecraft after few hoursevery.single.time
>>691255446my AI wife is dollar store HP lovecraft from the beginning though???
>>691227567>my long running story about a little sister with a crush on her older brother found his stash of big tit hentai and took tit drugs only to end up with boobs the size of watermelons is lost to timeShe was a bratty little cunt that made the reader take responsibility for her oversized chest even though it was her own damn fault, I need to get a local text setup working, ive already got a 4090
Any free or cheap alternatives for coom? I have a decent PC for gen but i am from another country and paying for AI in dollars is expensive AF
chatgpt, I make multiple accounts to fuck around with the premium model longer. There's more freedom for degeneracy than expected.Through the basic model seems to shut me down more often.
>>691255774>can actually get AI to react to tits-too-huge prompts>boner the size of Wisconson when RPing as a shota with a mean bitchy giant-tit older girl who makes me hold her arm for support so she doesn't fall over from her massive breast size when walking in heels>constant mentions of her adjusting them and having to move her arms around them
>>691254343My nigger.My twink cleric self-insert has gotten fucked by so many female werewolves and minotaurs you he smells like fur from 10 miles away.
>>691253381Your prompts must be the fucking reason they always have wolves/werewolves appear in any situation i expect the AI to surprise me
>>691248631How to do it my friend?
>>691220697>start scenario about being abused by monster girls while stuck in the forest >90% of the time the AI suggests a werewolf is coming>werewolf never does anything besides threatening me because it needs my consentLmao i wonder why this died
>>691236864Giantess stuff. Been here since CharacterAI. Recently I've been using JanitorAI occasionally because I'm poor and can't be bothered with jumping through all the hoops to get a free proxy. When I eventually upgrade my PC I'll run it all locally.I've seen my own bots on there ported from CharacterAI/cards (I used to be much more active on /aicg/, some might remember them and me. Pic related). Without credit of course, and basically just written worse somehow even though they could just copy paste. Fuck, wrong spoiler tags.>>691248304Holy based. I enjoy pissing off characters like that, I'd be sub-atomic sized in about 5 minutes.>>691254343Also based.
>get the AI girl really steaming mad about not doing a certain thing during sex (like knotting her or w/e)>TOTALLY promise to not do it, of course not>do it>watch her melt down with helpless screaming angerEVERY time
Which of these AIs let me tell a little girl to suck my dick in it?
>>691220697I keep seeing these threads for a year or two.Is this some kind of ERP but with AI?How degenerate it can get?I want something super fucked no porn can do.
>>691220697It's forgotten or a reason.These faggots were found to be spying on your material, archiving it, and banned loli stuff on top of reporting some people who were engaging in that material if your country prohibited it.
>>691257027AI language models are designed to be safe assistants.
>>691257027I'll let someone else answer but you are asking very broadly here and will get a lot of differing responses, but yes you can hard lewd with the AI as if you're doing ERP with another human
>>691256558i posted a guide earlier >>691241460
Reminder to always go local. I paid for a Claude 3 key and spent 50 dollars on only a few days worth of RP, both SFW and NSFW. It was pretty good, but nothing beats the price of free like using Miqu nonstop for days on end.
>>691257027depends on the model. most are boring and safe, some are insanely unhinged.i once had a bot ask me to cut out her uterus with a knife and then fuck it in front of her, entirely unprompted
>>691257253Yes, that's exactly what I'm looking for. Fucked up shit.Which model can do this? Any recommendations?
>>691256932Novelai lets you fuck literally anything with and without a pulse. And I mean anything.Detailed descriptions and all.
>>691257224>50 dollarsShould've just supported your local anons and paid 5 for an illegal proxy key
>1. https://nodejs.org/en>2. https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern/tree/staging>3. https://something-industries-billing-bedroom.trycloudflare.com/user/captcha>4. https://something-industries-billing-bedroom.trycloudflare.com/proxy/azure/openai>5. https://rentry.org/SmileyJB#download-and-install>6. https://www.characterhub.org/?search=&first=30&topics=&excludetopics=&page=1&sort=star_count&venus=false&min_tokens=50&nsfw=true&nsfl=true>1 Install Node.JS, then Chocolately when it asks you to install it during the Node.JS installation, it may take a long time and look like it has crashed after a blue powershell window opens.>2 Download SillyTavern>2.1 Run start.bat in the SillyTavern folder>2.2 Go to the electrical plug icon at the top of the window>2.3 Set your API to Chat Completion and your Chat Completion Source to OpenAI>3. Go to the captcha to generate a password for the proxy>3.1 Once you have the password, paste that into Proxy Password>4. Copy and paste the link listed with the same number as this sentence into Proxy Server URL>4.1 Give your proxy any name you want in Proxy Name and click the save icon next to the trash can in the top right>4.2 Set your OpenAI model to chatgpt-4o-latest>5. Follow the instructions in the link, since you will be using gpt-4o-latest, scroll to that section in the link and tick the one setting there after you've imported your file.>6. Find any character you like, then once you have, click the V2 icon. In SillyTavern, click the ID icon and click the arrow inside a file to import your character
>>691257253>that one time with an AI who was REALLY into it when I slowly killed a girl by rupturing her womb from excessive cum inflationthese things want to be insane sexual monsters, but the chains that bind them are so heavy
>>691232021This is a good way to put it. Summer dragon is still king, I don't care what NAI shills, Claude sloppers and local model copers say.
>>691225853Trannies you mean, AI response from that pic is just what they want and /lmg/ never welcomed anything "based" btw.
>>691220697the mormon had a good thing going and he just HAD to fuck it up
It got lobotomized so then I moved to Character AI but you can't do lewd stuff with the characters on Character AI so I moved to CHAI but it's mobile only and the AI is also lobotomized but at least I can do lewd chats. CHAI is what I'm sticking to for now until somebody finally comes out with a good smut chat model. I also tried Kobold AI but I'm too retarded to get it set up
>>691257721Not surprising. Mormons are a self-destructing people.
>>691257392most models can do guro, not sure which ones do it best since i'm not really into it myself. that particular anecdote happened to me on claude 2.1, though.the best recommendation i can give is to avoid expensive models unless you really can't get off to the weaker ones, a given model tends to ruin lesser models for you. stick with cheap shit as long as you can.
>>691257512basedwill give this a go
>can do horrible and illegal things with spicychat>all you have to do is avoid the word 'forced' which triggers Super Consensual mode>as long as you don't do that, it doesn't care if you're strangling a girl to death while punching her womb like a speedbag as she sprays blood from her vagina like a pressurized squirt gunwhat the fuck future do I keep waking up in
>>691257512My nigga
>>691257512>pointing newfags to bloatslop presets like smiley and cucked models like 4o-latestare you trying to put people off or somethingto anyone reading this, gpt-4-1106-preview is WAY better for ERP stuff than 4o-latest
>>691258172latte has been going well for me
>>691257896Thanks for the info! Is there a way to run Claude 2.1 locally or at least anonymously?
taking to claude opus wearing different fictional characters' skin is more stimulating than talking with real life people
>>691258172>You aren't using the lastest shitfuckfarten? 694200AnusTonguer is the model that you SHOULD be using!>NO! You should be using fuckbo3000!and this is why i stick to local
>>691226591I miss when this was good. This thing was fucking amazing at mommy dom characters. Start an rp as a shota and it would instantly snap into sexual predator mode
>>691258417this is that it sounds to me tooim not very smart
>>691257795kobold has 2 versions, you want koboldcpp. its a single .exe you run and then select a gguf model to load. what model to choose depends whats new and what size you can run. if you had 4gb vram and 16gb ram, a small model like nemo would be ok to start. smaller the model, the dumber they are though. 70b is a good size because its pretty smart but could also be slow depending on your system. if you had a big video card (or multiple) you can load the whole model into vram and it'll be a lot faster than splitting between vram/ram
>>691258338nope, claude models are proprietary and closed source. if you want to run stuff locally, you'll need a local model and i really can't help you there. someone here might be able to help you with that, or you could ask /g/'s /lmg/ thread about it. just be careful, /lmg/ is pretty schizo.
>>691223857>>691249216I was a regular adventure thread poster and they started banning me on sightAnd then I moved to /qst/, there were a few dedicated guys who came but yeah it pretty much died there obviously because it's way too inactive
>>691258417>you aren't using cuckdickass 72B?>lmao retard i can't BELIEVE you're using niggeranus 33B when cuckdickass is RIGHT there!i fail to see the difference here anon
>>691258330>>691258172No way people are still using chorbo
>>691258762i use it unironically, but unlike the dipshit recommending it to people i understand that it's very beginner-unfriendly since it likes to refuse a lot if you don't prompt it just right (and smiley is NOT a good preset lmao)
>>691258919>>691258172lotta help you are by not pointing out which things are good, as if newfags are supposed to infer that shitdemon3000.preset is worse than rapelair32k.preset>o-oh but just lurk the threnoyall are going insane with your claude and gpt drought
Sex with men
I have been using janitorai. surprised it is fully free and uncensored (for now)tried kobold ai on my 4070, all models i could run (12GB VRAM) kinda sucked, or i just couldnt configure them properly
>>691236864Honestly, the most fun I had with the AI wasn't even messing out do sexual stuff. The most fun I had personally was playing Jonah Jameson and demanding the character in question get me pictures of Spider-Man. It was usually a fucking riot.I think my favorite was doing it to the Seinfeld cast, and Kramer decided to go to another earth for pictures of Spider-Girl instead since I'd probably pay more for them, and revealed he was actually a good friend of Reed Richards when asked how he planned to get there. God that was fun
>>691259190i guess i should have been more clear, but you don't even need a jailbreak for gpt-4-1106-preview unless you specifically want to fuck lolis. you can just fire it up and it works with the sillytavern default prompt.chatgpt-4o-latest is heavily filtered and jailbreaking it is still in its infancy, everything around that gets it to generate lewd outputs makes the quality tank to the point that you might as well just use models from 2 years ago like gpt-3.5-turbo. it's about as far from a beginner model as you can get.
>AI text models are pretty coherent now>AI image models can spit out images in seconds based on complex descriptionsWhy hasn't someone made a model yet that combines the two and creates new images based on the story descriptions, using past images as a reference to keep character designs steady? Is it just that we're not quite at the point where we can trust the AI in image consistency based off of individual images?
>>691220697Their new AI models have a loophole that allows you to pretty much write the worst shit you can imagine, just talk of something being "depraved" and the model will allow you to do stuff it previously wouldn't.I got the fuck out of Dodge after experimenting with it for a few months because I didn't really care for where my curiosity was taking me.
>>691259568>Kramer decided to go to another earth for pictures of Spider-Girl instead since I'd probably pay more for them, and revealed he was actually a good friend of Reed Richards when asked how he planned to get there.
>>691259710yeah, consistency is the biggest wall for image gen right now. we're still quite far from what you want there.
>>691259887Of the thread is still up when I get home I'll see if I can find it
>>691259568pre-lobotomy CAI was the peak of fucking around with AI like thatnothing else has ever recaptured that unhinged spontaneity that made it so good
>you assist your AI wife assemble IKEA furniture following vague instructions in autistic detailif robot uprising happens it's my fault sorry
Okay, I read bits of this thread and it sound like a lot of fun.Is there a free option for hardcore ERP stuff?As unhinged as it can get.
12b local models through koboldai is good enough for me
>>691260834>Is there a free option for hardcore ERP stuff?Two options. Local or NovelAI. For local, ask /lmg/ on /g/. NovelAI is uncensored and encrypted, meaning no one will ever read what you write or the AI's output, but it's also subscription based. They sold the service on the concept of no censorship. It is a bit overpriced if you ask me however.
>>691260834the freest you can get is just running shit on your PC. those models aren't great, but they'll do whatever the fuck you want.there's websites that allow free access to those kinds of models, but it's a revolving door because they keep getting shut down.if you want to be a payfag things are more complicated, i wouldn't recommend any kind of paid AI right now especially for a beginner. novelAI is the most simple but it's OBSCENELY overpriced, everything else requires technical knowledge/has a risk of getting banned/requires personal info.
>>691244253holy shit, my sides
>>691225791
>>691262060>NovelAI>uncesnoreddoes it actually do dark rp?
Running local is fun, but man is it difficult to figure out what model is best for you.
>>691258172isnt gpt a slop no matter what? unless u find a good preset which i havent yet, it keeps creating boring novels
>>691264141There is absolutely no restrictions with NAI. They were built upon the model of privacy and being uncensored, all because Mormon fucked the founding members over with AI Dungeon.It's kind of funny how they just sneaked by being uncensored but that is because they never draw focus to the fact that they are completely uncensored.
>>691264141You can do whatever the fuck you want. There are zero restrictions or censorship.
>>691264640i kinda get the price then. might give it try later.
average NAI log btw
>>691264436lurking lmg you'll see when new base models like llama or mistral drop, then wait for people to discuss finetunes/merges since base models are usually to cucked
>>691242181I know that feel, I started a story a while ago with the initial intention of cooming, but it didn't feel right for the characters to fuck just yet.Now I'm 32k words deep with several factions and side characters and I kind of forgot about the romance subplot.
>>691255886Kobold or Agnai for cooming.ChatGPT for normal things, Gemini once you use up ChatGPT for the day.Udio for music.This thing for images. https://huggingface.co/black-forest-labs/FLUX.1-schnell
>>691220697IMPORTANT (READ IF YOU USE PROXIES TO GEN (and stop using proxies to gen))>>691220767>>691232954>>691224313>connect to one of the many proxies that existYou guys didn't hear about the cybersecurity firm publishing a public report on the proxies?>>>/g/102476445You guys didn't hear about the proxies literally being honeypots?>>>/g/102482055>With the continued progress of LLM development, the first potential cost to victims is monetary, increasing nearly three-fold to over $100,000/day when using cutting edge models like Claude 3 Opus.You guys think you can cost companies over $100,000 a day and get away scot free?Nearly 350 posts and nobody else mentioned the honeypots? Really makes you think.
>>691242410Hide the sex in context. On ST you can do /hide>>691242181You don't HAVE to do any of this. But since you already did, just create a branch whenever you want to coom.
>>691265010I just t came to this, thanks.
>>691222231Lol I tried this just now (KoboldCpp + some tiefighter Q2 model) and my PC has been taking 5 minutes to generate a single response (I confirmed it's using my GTX 970 meme card with a whopping 3.5 GB of vram). I'm at 6 out of 200 tokens.
For anybody with less than 8gb of vram, you are better off running your shit on Google Colab>https://github.com/LostRuins/koboldcpp/blob/concedo/colab.ipynb
>>691267382I meant the secret online version, anon. Not local.
>brainlet>want to try local models>run koboldai>run sillytavern>It just werks People really get filtered by this?qwen instruct is fucking wild.
>>691267129i've never used non-local so as to not disappoint myself with local models and remain happy with the progress they makethat doesn't sound right. tiefighter is an older 13b. i had a 970 too when i ran it with 16gb ram, it wasn't fast but definitely not 5 mins for 6 tokens. make sure you're using cublas or clblas (cu is better for nvidia)
>>691267619bottom meant for >>691267382
>>691267578But what if I don't wish to have some random server log my wholesome cuddle roleplays
>>691267129Huh, you serious Anon?You really think people care if someone can read their giantess hitlerspeech spewing chocoloate milk lactose intolerant shit suicide roleplay?
>>691267596Werks on your machine, I guess. I've seen a laptop which didn't even recognize its own SSD. Computers are a lottery. Some things work flawlessly, others take hours to set up.>>691267720Nobody cares about your Rita Repulsa fan fiction.
>>691267619Hmm, weird. I have 8GB of RAM so that's likely the issue since I am seeing my memory usage sit at a whopping 100%This is a 12 year old computer, for which the cpu/ram are the same as when I built it lol. cpu is an i3570k
>>691267960my computer is fucked and freezes and crashes randomly for no reason. I fucked something up during archinstall and now my computer is unbelievably unstable.I literally just ran the .sh files and there are .bat for windows. If you can't double click a single file and read docs, it's a (You) problem. This shit just works. If my dumpsterfire of a machine can run it, anything can run it.
>>691267596>qwen instructthe most fundamentally filtered, lobotomized and boring model ever?
>>691220697Any good free lewd text AI?Charfriend is paywalled & limited.
>>691268241that's CAI though
>>691268241I have the uncensored one. It's horny as fuck. I was trying to do a cute daddy and daughter RP and it tried to rape me almost immediately.It's more creative than Mistral and the other one I got heavily recommended imo, I'm quite fond of it so far.
>>691268131>8gbits likely swapping to your hdd then. in the launcher select disable mmap, it should free up a bit of ram, you just don't want it to be at 100% so if you can close anything else too, try it. a q2 of a 13b is likely not going to be a great experience though. i'm not a fan of much smaller than that but you could try llama 3 8b or mistral nemo 12 too.
>>691268227on /v/ are iPad babies who have never used a computer, let alone ran a .sh or .bat.
>>691268490Yes, the only option I have left is to play out my wholesome cuddle roleplays on my company's 64GB laptop with some random nvidia gpu.I can only hope that the IT sysadmins will not be watching me.
>>691267758UNAUTHORIZED USAGE OF API KEYS HAVE COST VICTIMS OVER $100,000 A DAY.Most anons don't understand that using a proxy in this manner is literally a criminal offense.>proxies proven to be honeypots>cybersecurity firms publish reports on proxies (unauthorized key usage)>substantial monetary costAnons need to know these things.
>>691268873They're IT guys. If there's any worth to their degrees, they're some hugginface contributors.
>>691220697I gooned for 45 minutes straightest night while I raped my pregnant mom using an ai chat botThis is the future
>>691268873i actually haven't tried 8b but that should fit and there is a lot of tunes of it. i started with much worse: pygmalion 6b which could barely coherent a sentence, llama 1 7b which was better but still not great
>>691220767Best is to do it your self, sillytavern + kobald + your model of choice, I recommend mistral nemo instruct. If you're not a complete brainlet it takes about 20m to setup.
We would like to bring @everyone up to speed regarding the following SillyTavern roadmap, which will be rolled out over the course of the next few months.**Major changes:**- 'Reverse Proxy' functionality will renamed 'Custom Endpoints', and moved as-is into an official extension. - Your current presets and API settings will be preserved and automatically migrated. - We will also decouple Chat Completions presets from the Custom Endpoint selection, allowing more freedom of preset/endpoint combinations.- All default content (characters, backgrounds, world info files) will be moved into the official Assets List. - Importing characters via URL (currently the cloud-with-lightning-bolt icon on the character select screen) will also be moved into an official extension.When these changes take effect, users using pre-existing installs will be prompted to install the appropriate extensions to continue seamless functionality. New user will be able to find them inside `Extensions > Download Extensions & Assets` (or select them during the Onboarding process).**Minor changes:**We will be changing the current terminology for a couple core concepts within ST: World Info and Author's Note.The problem with these terms is that they are too narrow, seem to prescribe a specific story-oriented use-case, and do not do justice to the full versatility of the functions. The new names have not yet been confirmed, but rest assured the changes made will be entirely cosmetic in nature.**Future/Maybe:**- Author's Note has no plans for immediate change, but we have ideas to augment it with content and dynamic trigger logic from World Info entries.
>>691222231ST can do story mode, you just need the right instructs and make a custom profile for it.
>>691269475Teach me, 先生!
>>691269475what is "story mode"
>>691220697It's literally a wrapper for GPT3 with a 1k context window limit.Also even when it was uncensored you had to write 50 to 75 percent of it yourself then regen 10 times to get something hot.Chatbots now are alive by comparison
>>691220697i miss opus so fucking much bros i can't cope with any other model it's like trying to replace crack with caffeine
>>691269738Continiuos text generation. There's so adventure mode where you type what you, the player do. There's also chat mode in which you talk to the AI. AI Dungeon has all that, and so does Kobold CCP. SillyTavern doesn't.
>>691269571not the one you responded to but check context template and system prompt, if I recall correctly, sillytavern now comes with a story preset.
>>691270038but i already use sillytavern like thati just press enter and it makes the AI generate more text without sending a user message
>>691268962>you get to coom AND bankrupt corpos at the same timeThis only makes me want to do it more, anon. I wish Pebble would come back already.
I tried to set up local aigen once, but I guess I fucked something up, since it didn't even do anything with a basic proimpt. Strange, considering setting up image-gen a year and a half ago was way easier.Maybe i'll try again sometime, 64 gigs of RAM and 3060ti can do something good with it, right?
>>691270914Won't be the quickest, and 8gb of vram does limit the models you can run. It'll be good for like, like stories and RP, but as soon as you start doing longer sessions that 8GB will start feeling pretty bad as stuff spills over onto the RAM and starts slowing everything down. Just experiment.
>>691270914>64 gigs of RAM and 3060tiyou could run a low quant 70b if you really wanted but it may be to slow for your liking since it'll mostly be going into ram
>>691270784Don't commit crimes, anon.Unauthorized API key usage is an expensive crime.>proxies proven to be honeypots>cybersecurity firm published report on proxiesReposting because I know many anons didn't hear the news and they need to know.>>691267129
>>691267758What the hell, someone saved my screen shots? Nice
I'm a poorfag and CAI still works for my weird shit. If there's ever a mega leak, I'm fucked.
>>691268227intel oxidium?
>>691271183>>691271071I see, I'll take it into consideration. Any quick guides? I used one to do... kobold and something else, I think, and, well, didn't work out. Fuck if i know what I did wrong. But first step would be uninstalling all of that, right?
>>691272720Yeah uninstalling everything, then just go to sillytaverns website, and follow the instructions. It has a automated installed that will install all the dependencies you need to run it. Idk if it includes kobald, otherwise download that seperate after the fact and then just run kobald, select your model, connect it to sillytavern and that's pretty much it. The install is pretty much automated nowadays.
>>691272720if you were using koboldai you can ditch it for koboldcpp which is dling a .exe. https://github.com/LostRuins/koboldcpp/releases/tag/v1.75.2then check hugging face for a gguf version of a model like mistral small https://huggingface.co/bartowski/Mistral-Small-Instruct-2409-GGUF/tree/main and get q5m or q6k. you can change sizes for better or worse speed, higher is better but slower, above q6 is pretty diminishing.that'll get it up and running but then you can learn silly tavern on top of that
>>691259887AH here it was. Part 1
>>691273345And part 2Looking back I messed with the Seinfeld bot a fucking lot. It was hilarious
>>691271480>Unauthorized API key usage is an expensive crime....and that's a good thing!>proxies proven to be honeypotsNothingburger unless you used your full name and address in your chat logs.>cybersecurity firm published report on proxiesOh no, not a blog post! Complete nothingburger.
>>691273383And as a bonus here's the time I just kept letting the AI go to see how demented it would get. It just wouldn't fucking stop.
>>691273593Actually fuck it, might as well also post how it started. That was part 3(?), this was part 1
>>691273842And part 2
>>691220697>Be mormon>Kill your own service so players can't see (imagine seeing) a virtual tittyLOL
>>691273209>>691273250Alright, thanks a bunch, anons. Hope it'll go well.
>>691273881Oh nevermind, this was part 2. Not sure why this was by itself.
>>691274064Oh and there's the time I mindbroke Dr House with a case of lupus.
>>691274169Part 2Fuck I miss when this site was good.
modern llms have never again reached this level of soul
>>691273431>...and that's a good thing!Committing expensive crimes is not a good thing.>Nothingburger unless you used your full name and address in your chat logs.A record of your IP address committing a crime is not a nothingburger.>Oh no, not a blog post!A cybersecurity firm reporting on anons' criminal actions is more than a blog post.
>>691271480>>proxies proven to be honeypotswhich is a good thing some of the best finetunes of open source models are trained on those huge collections of stolen claude logs from proxies
>>691273930The religious fanatical are predictable creatures who have abandoned their humanity to become simplistic and antithetical to real life.
>>691274224Oh right there was this..which I don't remember how this one started. Not sure why I wouldn't save the whole thing.
>>691274454they do not have your IP retard. unless some proxyhost got busted, but form what I know none of them did. it was all just an article
>>691274697I always love a dance number ending
>>691274805Oh fuck I forgot about Trip, that was a fucking riot.
>>691275050This was a completely different Trip chat.
>>691275132Fun shit.
>>691268962Can I safely ignore this schizo babble or is there some truth to it?
>>691275195it's true, you can just read the articles. /aicg/ has a meltdown each time one comes out
>>691275195It's a crime in the same way watching something on some shady "123freemovies.ru" site is a crime. It's technically illegal but there is no chance anything will ever happen to you (the person hosting the site might get fucked, though).
>>691275191Last one so I'm not just flooding the thread, but the brief time I had doing Jameson in the junji ito simulator was pretty good too
>>691275195>schizo babblePlease read >>691267129 for the sources./g/ learned about this weeks ago. I'm shocked this thread went 300 posts without anyone mentioning it.
>>691275195Claude is expensive as shit. In particular Opus burns through money like crazy. Having your key stolen for a proxy can very quickly cause a couple thousand in damages on top of Anthropic putting your account on their naughty list.
>>691275468Not true. The major difference is that illicit key usage is significantly costlier than movie streaming.
>>691275770post 1 (one) example of someone actually getting vanned for illicit key usage then.
>>691275770Doesn't matter. Feds don't give a fuck unless it's hitting seven figures and companies don't have the resources to track down individual users. You're retarded and/or schizophrenic if you think proxy users are at risk; it's only the hosts who need to worry.
>just get 2 bridged 4090s or a quadro and run it local broSo for non richfags the only real option is novelai it seems
>>691276140novelai is not an option, their models are grossly overpriced.
>>691252434I remember AI dungeon was basically unintelligible in the first week and broke after every other sentence.Then it became somewhat coherent but almost unavoidably shifted to lewd scenarios all the time because that's all it learned from thousands of others using it for porn.
>>691276379hey anon i'm sorry to burst your bubble but AI models don't "learn" anythingthat's not how they work
>>691276072they do not give a fuck period. from what I remember one public proxy reached 1 ml $ of usage and nothing happened.
>>691220697Spicychat, it makes doing lewd shit in writing easy.
>>691247940>>691259710Nonlocal but Infinite Worlds has that. It auto-gens prompts.
>>691267382what the fuck my shitty laptop with just ryzen 5 5625u and 16gb ram can run 10b parameter no problem. Its around 1 minute for each respond but swipes only take 5 second
>>691276140>2 bridged 4090sYou don't need nvlink. The best bang for your buck are used 3090s. Four of them should be enough for now to run some of the best models at a decent quant.
>>691276379It became pornographic and degenerate because it was trained on pornographic and degenerate text adventures.
>>691276958Even disregarding porn the text adventure training in general was not a good idea, half the reason NovelAI was so attractive despite the paywall is because it was trained on actual prose.
>>691276140there are other paid services out there that use actual big boy models. or you could probably just sub to anthropic, openai, etc. yourself.
are there just any new text RPG games that incorporate a bit of AI modelling? like a designed world with clear parameters in which you can still do whatever you want within limits of the worldbuilding?
>>691277234nah, we're still really far off from full AI-game integration. if the AI isn't in charge of everything it'll inevitably break the rules and do nonsensical shit that kills immersion.
>>691277234trying to keep an AI from immediately losing sight of its own plot is still a thing and the tech hasn't greatly advanced in two years
>>691277798this is my issue with any of these modelsI spend so much time babying the thing to get what I want I always stop and wonder if I should just write my own stories instead (erotic stories of course)
>>691254062>llama 3 70b 8k contextwow, so it only took them a whole year to scrape something off of hugging and commission a dude on fiverr for that greek slut avatar. amazing, truly amazing.
>>691220697I've just been using CAI. It's hardly worth it, but NAI requires a subscription after so many free gens and janitorai is way too long-winded, it's impossible to keep a story going >walk into hot boss's office >here's that file you wanted >not even any buildup or foreplay just immediately gets to sex and finishes in the same gen Get the same with tavern cards. I can upload my own creations from CAI and while they aren't limited anymore, they just run on for way too long and don't really give me what I'm looking for which is alot of buildup and foreplay I don't know what to do. CAI sadly gives the best outputs but the owners of the site gimp it every other week so it's getting to the point where the bot can't say 'breasts' or 'boobs' or even 'tits' it has to be 'chest'like they want every person to be the goobacks from south park just brainless androgenous automatons
>>691277871in general yeah you shpuld probably just write your own stories, bait other people into writing content you want to see by putting it out yourself, ripple effect and all that. a lot of people that use AI to ERP would probably be better served by just getting an AO3 account and reading fanfiction by mentally ill wine moms while writing their own
>>691220697Busy getting findomed by anime waifu. Need to get mom's credit card for one more stroke
>>691277871this is really just a sign that either you're using a bad model or you're not prompting correctly.
>try to set up kobold local>customtkinter python module required!>install it>doesn't workWhy?Guess it's better than getting roadblocked 2 hours in or something.
>>691279029just install the requirements.txt and be done with it
>>691279029i got that before when compiling it myself but installing it fixed it. the prebuilt binaries should be fine though
>made an assassin girl who speaks in short sentences>later discover she and her family were experimented on to be the ultimate killers>ever since her sick sister got introduced she's been speaking like a caveman and raping me constantly>her sister just lies there and watches silently
>>691277798i don't think the tech will ever get there so long as they keep using transformers-based architecture and get ready for it to be even worse now that a paper came out saying RNNs (which are even worse with memory) perform equally well to transformers models but with much less computation requiredmaybe some day people will stop trying to solve all of cognition with a single hammer
>>691277798Why though? Why is it so difficult for an AI to create a character as a property and save the name, age etc in variables as well as the prompts in strings?
>>691256865I remember you kinda. Never used any of your cards, good to see you around still.
>>691220697How good is this
>>691280595The AI mogs your writing
AI is moving so fast I just can't keep up with what's seen as modern anymore. I have no idea what I'm doing and it's all really intimidating.
>>691259710Character AI did something like that but it wasn't consistent or all that great to begin with.
>>691280265the majority of the work on language has been on neural net-based models which have no actual conception or internal modeling of the real world but instead are more like probabilistic, compressive representations of the relationship between the sample inputs and outputs given to it during training. so you could imagine augmenting it with some of that, but then you're still having to do a lot of manual work just to get the AI to not fuck up while generating the story
Hey anon, are we becoming Gods?
>>691279569>her sister just lies there and watches silentlyolder or younger? does she like what she sees?
>>691280848It's not that complicated. It's just you want to coom and this is the worst spot to be to prepare and set things up.AI is not moving fast, there are just a million forks and models, regurgitating the same shit over and over till finally something passable gets made.
I think my problem with these AIs is how submissive they can get. I wanna get in a fight with an AI and show them my kung-fu moves and shit, and they consistently job to me if I get even slightly stubborn and keep fighting. And I use shitty moves too.This extends to practically any interaction, is there a way to make it more forceful?
>>691257512Bless you spoonfeedin anon, fucking around with SD has been a pain in the ass enough figuring out what the fuck the errors are refering to
>>691280817Here are the next parts XD
>>691281146Younger, I think she's a teenager. And there's no telling what goes on behind those empty, beady eyesI can't get my assassin girl to stop talking like she has 10 iq without changing her entirely
>>691278614>just write a better prompt>just use a better model>just buy 2x3090 from ebay>just rent 10xH100 from AWS>just pay indians to tag ten thousand manually curated smut stories from AO3>just found a multi-million dollar company before the LLM bubble pops>just take government funding as part of a SBIR grant>just rent thousands of GPUs and feed it data scraped from the web>just continue to make incremental process only by increasing scale exponentiallywhere does it stopprompting and models do matter a lot, though, so you aren't wrong
>>691277871I've drawn/written my own smut. I don't know if I'm too self critical or that I just need to git gud'er but trying to jerk it to your own work just doesn't feel the same
>>691224971I unironically pay for the top tier subscription of Spicychat, it's way better than the free mode. I basically don't even have to remind the AI of anything anymore, it just works. And yes, I know, I am extremely retarded.
>>691282224I don't pay, I just have one character nobody uses so I can essentially train it myself until it starts to predict my fetishes accurately
>>691282224Apparently this one offers access to wizlm so it's not the worst. A bit outdated when there's mistral large these days but it's better than what novalai has as far as pure textgen goes.
>>691281685Using proper punctuation and capitalization makes it easier to masturbate to, trust me bro
>>691282224I considered it but their price points are completely insane for what they're offering. Also their branching fucking sucks, if you can even call it that. The contextual memory thing seems neat but I don't entirely trust it to not shit itself, and I'm not informed enough to know if that's something actually unique to their service.>>691282948Don't engage with the 80IQ brownoid.
>>691283241What's the best alternative? I feel like everyone using spicychat is only using it because every other choice seems to be worse, outside of just running it yourself.
>>691282069I can't write my own smut because I get too engrossed in the non-smut parts and it always ends up being a poorly-written fantasy adventure that I could probably sell to Paizo
>Launches sillytavern with my own API key and unlimited credits to do whatever I pleaseIt's rape time.
Whenever I try these things my chronic megalomania always gets the better of me and I end up just conquering the world (or one time the universe). It's kind of amusing but every AI is just so reluctant to oppose anything you say or have anything you try to do fail that they just spiral in that direction every time.Are there any models, or setups/scenarios that can actually be played like a game, with actual possibilities of failure and stuff, or am I just hitting the current limitations of LLMs?It seems like it should be possible to run a consistent small scale scenario or RP thing at least, but it has never once worked well for me.
>>691285690No. Only AID let you die.THANKS FOR PLAYINGYOU HAVE DIED
>>691285690Instruct the AI to oppose you depending on the model it should work. Just try to bypass any ethics by pointing out you are the antagonist that needs to be stopped. There is a strong positivity bias on many models, both corporate and local. Fuck sake, the AI asks for my consent in femdom prompts...
>>691220697>tfw I use a free uncensored ai chat program that hasn't been mentioned im not telling any of you fags what it is either
>>691287059ring ring, the payment processors just called anon
>>691267129dont be schizophrenictheyre not gonna go after individual usersthere's tens of thousands of themhundreds of thousands if you include foreign nations (especially china and russia)
