What's the verdict?
>>692759509Do you like Mario? Do you like Luigi? Then it's FUN.You don't like Mario? You don't like Luigi? Then WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
shit soundtrack.
music is soullesswriting is soullesscharacters are soullessanimations are good
Played the intro until you have to enter the cannon, was fun. I'll buy it on release. The only thing I don't like is no Yoko and the new mario and luigi voice because the guy can't do the italian gibberish
Lottacoins Island is a total snoozefest so I've dropped myplaythrough for now
>>692759509The music and the dialogues are awful, BIS still is the king.
>dead threaddid all the emulatorfags give up lmao
did you like dream team? it's that with faster fights and superstar saga bros. attacks on normal jumps and hammers
There's like one enemy type for the entire first 2 hours. Doesnt look promising. I'll continue with it I guess, but I'm an old man now, I just want simple gameplay. Give me this formula but with a roguelike feel. So much game development time is wasted on garbage. Now you can make Luigi do your chores for you with L. It's just another cutscene. The one puzzle that required you to switch see-saws around didn't even work as I anticipated. The game hints at jumping with a heavy object, but you can't actually use the jump button. Not sure if I want to continue now or wait until I understand more how to adjust the unreal engine 4.2 console commands using whatever tools on Yuzu. The game already runs at 120, but I kinda want to control the camera with the right stick.
Shoestring budget/10
>>692763818I want to know if it uses those weird modern techniques that adjust the resolution on the fly and if I can disable those.
>>692759509I want a Peach & Daisy game, (Peach & Daisy: The Shroobs strike back™) but I’ll still pick this one up
anyone wanting to actually play, I found these settings to be the smoothest experience without any crashes. EA Yuzu 4176 with Asynchronous CPU decoding method on. Sudachi would slow down every 2 minutes, Ryujinx would slow down to unplayable 3fps or crash during load screen unless you kept clearing out the cache every 15 minutes. I actually got to play the game for 2 hours straight without issues, so far I still feel like im missing most mechanics and enemies are very easy, haven't gotten to the first boss yet.
>>692759509Connie sex
>>692759509So boring that even despite being in the wild for over a day and being the first Mario and Luigi game in nearly a decade nobody has bothered to finish it
>>692763818>Give me this formula but with a roguelike feel
>>692763818>getting stuck on a puzzle where you fall on a see-saw with a heavy object
>>692760173what if I like one of them but not the other
>>692762710emufags only pirate games to see if they can get them to run and then quit after about 15 minutes because "they can just play it whenever" but never go back to it.
>>692766373I didn't get stuck nigger.
>>692766719>I-I didn't get stucklol ok mr. gaming journalist
>>692766806Literally your head
>>692759509It feels like One Piece, it crashes alot on emulator, I might wait for the official release but so far is decent.
>>692765906the game is really..REALLY long.
>>692765906Feels like it's going to flop like that Rabbids sequel did.
>>692768318They've been launching way too many Mario RPGs in a row, don't know why they didn't just develop and launch these throughout the switch's life span instead of cramming fucking all of them into 2023-4
>>692768549they were planned since switch launch but got stuck in DEI hell
>>692768958Buzzword, what are you even talking about?
>>692767269how many hours are you in
>>692759509I'm actually surprised it doesn't seem to be getting good reviews. I thought it would be like how TOK was to the Paper Mario series, not as good as the best games, but a hell of a lot better than the worst ones. Seems like Brothership is the worst Mario and Luigi game aside from Paper Jam.
>>692770105Where are these reviews? Do you just mean the posts here?Personally I've found it boring enough I'm waiting for someone to make a mod that makes the cutscene speed up faster and makes boat travel not needed/enables launching to islands regardless of distance. Way too much filler shit.
>>692770105brothership bros... we sank...
>>692763818>roguelike feel>So much game development time is wasted on garbage. Far too much game development time is wasted on roguelike garbage.
You know, maybe the Mario & Luigi formula would work for Sonic. Oh wait, they did try to make their own RPG and it was shit.
>>692772905What's even more amazing about that game was the legal shitshow it started
Just beat the first boss, the beginning is pretty slow, it takes a while to get the first bro move.That said, now that i'm here i'm curious if it picks up.Most of my first 4 hours have been on that piece of shit 100 ball minigame. I did get it but it took me 1 hour and a halfI like the music so far, it's not as iconic as something like SSS but it's good enough for me. Battle theme caught on with me
>>692764118It's crazy that after the first Mario RPG Peach has never been playable anymore across 10+ games.
>>692768318That one sold like 3 millions, it would be a great result for M&L.
how was I supposed to know the sharks kill you in ONE hit?fucking bullshit game
it sure is another m&l thats not as good as superstar saga or bis
>>692770105Its the most hated mario RPGF of 4chan history so far, its gonna flop from are redpilled negative words of speech.BTW didnt swim say that emulaters phone home to nintendo now??? is that why ppl never use them again???
>>692774140>BTW didnt swim say that emulaters phone home to nintendo now???they does phone home yes. many of the 4chan community confgirmed this.
>>692772905https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o47N-aYd08kino!
>slow beginning>combat is fun, but easy>locations are relatively uninspired>music ranges from okay to shit>minigamesIt's yet another entry in the series and if you think these don't apply to your favorite, you're horrendously biased.
>>692774447dream teams soundtrack is flawless thoever
>>692774234>Killed Archie for good and gave Penders supreme power while making SEGA terrified for the next 15 years>Ends on a bad ending cliffhanger that never got addressed and won't ever be>Game didn't ship with the finished OST, just the midi samples>Is a complete and utter boring piece of shit06 and this game really make me ask how the hell the Sonic franchise survives despite so much god awful stuff. Any other franchise would not survive a turd like this
>>692773613>Paper Mario>Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door>Super Paper Mario>some random anon: "It's crazy that after the first Mario RPG Peach has never been playable anymore across 10+ games."You have not played the games.
>>692759509dont buy this soulless shit. i lost 60$
>>692773613depicting violence against females is a big no-no nowadays due to DEI
>No gimmicky third character >no gimmick alternate battle like dreamy luigi/bowser>No giant battle-like shitBetter than BIS and Dream Team already
>>692773613>>692774730ALSO>Mario+Rabbids: Kingdom Battle>Mario+Rabbids: Sparks of HopePeach has been playable in 5 different RPGs after the first one.
>>692774447BIS has a pretty fast beginning
>>692774730>story interludes with no gameplay Disingenuous faggot.
>>692774121I doubt any future M&L game will reach that level of quality, same with Paper Mario games never being as good as the first two were.
>>692774730>64 and TTYD segments where you just walk around>comparable to being an actual parry member
This game is really fucking slow at the start, almost dropped it.But it's picked up a lot after beating the first ocean and am enjoying myself now. Still feel like the writing is a step-down but we'll see. Music is so forgettable
>>692775696>This game is really fucking slow at the start, almost dropped it.>But it's picked up a lot after beating the first ocean and am enjoying myself now.That's hopeful. I got TTYD in May and never played it before, I almost quit halfway through the second chapter because I was so bored and disappointed, thought it was so overhyped. Then once I started the third chapter, I loved it, Glitz Pit is my favorite chapter of the whole game. Hopefully Brothership is like that where it starts off slow but gets better.
>>692774121Why do you guys put SSS and BIS on such high pedestals? The former has mandatory, unskippable tutorials multiple times that you can't even fast-forward like later entries, a lot of tedious segments where you just go back and forth hitting switched, and combat is the opposite extreme of what people bitch about in modern entries with everything getting absolutely destroyed by overpowered Bros. attacks that barely sap your massive BP pool even in the "balanced" Eau/JP versions or the remake. Meanwhile BIS has a truckload of absolutely filler, being inside Bowser is fucking boring, outside is uninteresting because they have to accommodate for Bowser's fat ass, and enemy design takes a hit because it's heavily based on who was honestly the weaker half of the villain duo from SSS. Not to mention that it worded the equivalent of PiT items as Bros. Attacks which would stick for the rest of the series.
>>692775124>>692775239>ignores the point that anon said no rpgs have had peach playable since smrpg when there have been 5 in total, 3 being major roles
>>692759509It looks great, I'm really looking forward to playing it.
has anyone managed to fix the crashes ?
>>692765667Conni
>>69276518760fps is unlocked using cheats wtf you smokin
>>692769057translated from retard: nintendo decided it wanted mario RPGs back pretty spontaneously and pushed a game out for all three of their RPG series, two of them remakes and one of them an IP resurrection after its dev studio died
>>692760490I thought I was the only one not feeling it... Kinda pissed at the awful soundtrack.
>>692772779>>692772419Pure gameplay, none of that story bs that this game is plagued with. Did you not read how the first 2 hours contain the same enemy type?
>>692775831>overpowered Bros. attacksbut that's the best part that shit was cool
>>692766719Skill issue, autist.
>>692774657You forgot to mention it uses art ripped straight from Sonic X stills (this one especifically).
>that side quest where you deliver a statueDid Mario and Luigi deliver commissioned porn?
this game is really uninspired
Anyone know the Rank Up Bonuses I'm missing? These are the ones I got so far:>SHELL RANKHP Up+STACHE Up+Quick LevelingSPEED Up+Gear Slot +1>BOOMERANG RANKPOW Up+DEF Up+>FLOWER RANKJump ManHammerhead
>>692760490ok hows the gameplay?
I hope Cackletta returns somehow.I'm not asking if she is and don't tell me if she is or not.Just saying I hope so.
>>692775831>Why do you guys put SSS and BIS on such high pedestals?Because despite their flaws (some of which exist or are even worse in the others) they're still the funnest of the bunch.
>>692765187tried your settings but it crashes for me :/
>>692759509The game isn't out yet.
>>692782256>he doesn't know
>>692774657sonic fans have autism so they'll buy the games no matter what
>>692782256yes, that's rightnow go back to your twitter screencap thread
>>692763818>roguelikebraindamage
>>692763818>roguelikeCHADenergy
>>692774730>>Paper Mario>>Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door>>Super Paper Mariodoesn't count
>>692766484if you like luigi and not mario your ngmi
Can you have player 1 control mario and player 2 control luigi as a coop mode?
>>692772905Surprised no one has bothered making a Sonic RPG fan game with unique mechanics
>>692783108No. I'm surprised they didn't go for that this time considering the Switch has spurred a lot of tacked on multiplayer modes of varying quality. It doesn't need to be anything fancy, it could just be like controlling Tails in a Genesis Sonic games. Co-op action commands sounds kinda fun.
>yoshi is canon in this gameneat
>>692781285god, the magic wand tool jaggies
Everyone was so excited when it was revealed, what the FUCK happened to tank the hype so hard? Ever since the leak it seems nobody is really satisfied with the game. It can't just be the occasional bugs/glitches with emulators.
>>692785031this did not exactly have hourly threads before the leak
>>692785031There's a lot of little things that add up to hamper the experience. Luigi's AI, the movement, the lack of a battle roulette, really bland writing and lack of diverse characters because literally every NPC is a plug, uninspired locales, long loading times, etc. There's not much to talk about because the game is really campy compared to say, dream team which had interesting locations, a very wide range of npcs, compelling gimmicks, funny jokes, etc.
>>692785031Everyone is distracted by halloween hype. Come November 1st everyone will be talking about it.
>>692785031It's the M&L cycleEveryone was hoping for SSS2 but we got Costa Concordia instead
>>692763818>i don't like this genre, here is my slanted viewJournos post here, what joy.
>>692785031The pacing sucks
>>692784676it's called SOUL, ok?
>>692785031Didn't they kill emulators? Also it seems anyone who posts anything gets destroyed. Mario/Nintendo in general has had no hype this year, even with M&L returning, it's a shame it had to be in the twilight years of the switch because it'd have more discussion. Either it will be talked about at launch or it will fade out. Christmas sales will save the game though, just like how Mario RPG sold 5 million. I could see this doing more than 5 million personally.
>>692785031It feels weirdly unpolished in places, like they were told what to do by someone that did it before and got the gist of it, but because they hadn't ever done it before there's still weird rookie mistakes popping up in the final product.
>>692759509sex with Luigi
post Starlow
>>692786146
>>692785031The game is kind of weirdly paced, it takes like an hour and a half to get the hammer. I'm 2 hours in and still don't have a single bros moveThe characters are all plug creatures and they're pretty generic
>>692786213
>>692786295That's really strange given how paper jam gave your >Jump>Hammer>Shells >Paper Mario's Jump Hammer>Trio movesin the first fucking area Are you saying the game has Dream Team pacing? Are you able to speed up the dialogue at the least?
>>692786536>Are you able to speed up the dialogue at the least?B button
>>692786536It's not overly tutorialized like Dream Team (you can basically skip all of the tutorials), but you don't get the hammer until you complete the second island which is going to take at least an hour.And yes you can skip all cutscenes and dialogue.
>>692759509It's up there with thousand year door. don't haters brainwashing you
>>692786654That kinda makes it a non issue to me then. The worst part about dream team was the text overload, no skipping and tutorials that are set up like the fucking owl from OOT. I love DT but replaying it is never a thing any human should do because it takes 4 hours to get the hammer.
>>692759509I can't get any hype from this shitty ost, I remember how great the Dream Team boss fights were just because the boss theme was a banger.
>>692786536only pj and bis give you hammers almost immediately, the others it takes an hour or so to get them
>>692772905no, keep your autism shit away.
>>692787098To be honest, the Dream Team normal boss theme is probably the best normal boss theme in the series.
>>692781916>ok hows the gameplay?Don't put points into HP or DEF and it is fine.
>>692782080built for italian BWC
Does this one have a true 2 player mode?
>>692785985Well it was developed by a company known for mostly budget games.
>>692788561That was removed in Paper Jam
>>692782749>>692782820Brainchudage
>>692785985The battles seem kinda weird from what i've seen in the gameplay footage. The camera snapping seems so unprofessional, but it also seems like a way to speed up battles, which is something you could tell the battle designer was trying to do with PJ-BIS DX
>>692789053They made both Octopath games so I'd say they're pretty good
>>692789289>That was removed in Paper JamWhat do you mean? You can't make glass cannon builds in Brothership?
>>692759509It's ok. I have a feeling Nintendo keeps breathing down the devs' necks and greatly restricting their freedom because it's muh Mario. I wish the (ex) AlphaDream devs would make something brand new, like Tomato Adventure.
>>692786424(ONE) NOTHING WRONG WITH ME
>>692759509Hasn't released yet.>leakedNone of you ever play the leak. You just make-up shit for attention like all leakers.
>>692790906it'd be luigi you turn into a glass cannon from his lower DEF growth than mario's without perks and even then it's mostly through gearing and rank perksroulette i think mainly went away because it's the only way to make the bros.' different stat growths, mario towards POW and SPD and luigi towards BP, DEF and Stache, actually matter at all
less soul but not soulless
>>692790906Paper Jam removed the bonus stat roulette.Somehow, this isn't as limiting as you'd think since Luigi still gains higher Stache so he's able to crit more.
>>692792352accessories, gloves, boots and hammers already give you an insane degree of control over either brother's stats so i ended up caring about it less than i thought i would
The only game with decent pacing is BiS>superstar saga shits itself with the fetch quest>PiT's levels are a slog>DT has horrid tutorials>PJ is so boring it never gets good>BS so far has a very shitty introwhy do they keep getting these games wrong? they make going back to them a pain
i liked partners in time and dream team more than superstar saga
>>692792560>BIS Bull fucking shit, exploring slow 2D bowser is not good. SSS has the best pacing out of all of them. This is coming from a guy who loves DT the most.
>>692792015If I remember correctly, these are the brothers' growth rate tendencies:>MarioBP, POW, and SPEED>LuigiHP, DEF, and STACHEGenerally, POW and STACHE are the ones you want to boost when the roulette comes up and both Mario and Luigi specialize in one each of these stats so both are capable of carrying their weight in battle.Paper Jam and Brothership removed the roulette in favor of having the first two Rank-Up Bonuses provide perks that adds a point bonus to a stat of your choice, though there's also other skills given around that time which might be better picks.
>>692782875First two fine but she was a full party member in Super.
>everyone here thought and was hyping up this game being something amazing when the last 2 games in the series were mediocre crap You guys really like to not ask questions and just consome products
>>692793467Dream Team was great you swine. It's just slow as fuck, so I couldn't blame anyone for not finishing it. PJ is the only mediocre release in this series.
>>692793467DT is my 2nd favorite in the series so...
>>692793624bro, your Partners in Time?
/v/ros I don't get it. I got a score above 100. where's the double crit accessory?
>>692785406The genre of having the same one enemy type over the first 2 hours of your game?
So after a quick test, it does not seem like damage multipliers affect different attack types. If you have a pair of boots that gives a damage multiplier, that's only for the boots and not the hammer. However, damage multipliers from accessories stack with multipliers from boots or hammers.
>>692793678idk what that means but I think SSS-DT is great. Even PIT is fun with the four button action. There isn't a single bad game in this series.
>>692794298Well, yeah. That's par for the course. Boots and Hammer stats are your POW + equipped Boots value for Boots and POW + equipped Hammer value for Hammer. Dream Team Bros. Attacks even calculated damage using either Boots, Hammer, or just POW depending on the attack.
>>692794476It was worth checking since the items don't specify that the multiplier is for that attack type only. And since bros attacks don't tell you what attack stat is used to calculate damage, it probably is based on your POW only in this game.
personally I find the soundtrack to be fine but nothing crazybut what pisses me off the most is that luigi's controls during battle use the fucking A button instead of the B button, what the fuck?who at nintendo decided this was the game to switch it back? after having played all the previous m&l's now i'm constantly getting confused and missing the first B press when using him
>>692794837It's possible, but we should be able to determine if that's the case: Have one of the Brothers use their shell attacks with your strongest Boots equipped, and then have them use it with their Boots unequipped. Dream Team's Shells based used Boots to calculate their attacks (because the brothers kick the shells with the boots) so we should be able to determine if equipment affects certain Bros. Attacks that way.
>>692795139>Red Shell: 235>Red Shell with no boots equipped: 191>Red Shell with no boots or hammer equipped: 170>Red Shell with boots equipped but no hammer: 264>Red Shell but Luigi has no boots equipped: 270Lucky attacks were obviously ignored. Seems like the specific attack stat used for damage is now hidden. The first test was probably a low roll.
>>692785031>The Switch itself is dying and nearing the end of it's life>the game leaked way before release>plagued with emulation issues
Brothership being mid is revenge for you faggots shitting on the Paper Mario fanbase.
>>692800150It's actually revenge for you being a tribalistic faggot.
>>692759509These games have been mediocre since Dream Team.
>>692800150it's only mid if you also think dream team is mid
>>692800150M&L has always been mid except pit which is dogshit
How do I fix this?
>>692800714Buy the game
It's pretty cool. Reminds me of Super Mario RPG.
>>692800603Dream Team is lightyears better than this shit (so far).
>>692800775lol faggot. never support nintendo after what they've done.>>692800714use an emulator that isn't broken.
so wheres the leak
>literally just a spin dashSigh... Nintendo stealing ideas from other companies... again...
>>692802083that's cool, are there upgrades for your bros actions? I was kinda hoping the ball mode would be good for traversal
>>692802083>ball blitzand the man in the back said everyone attack!
>>692802284So far it's just that one. The trailers showed off fire and ice flowers as another field action, so that's probably the one for the left slot. Whether you get both at the same time is something I don't know.
>>692796603Well, it should be easy to determine what boosts the damage for which Bros. Attack anyway since we only need to check whether the attack uses kicks or jumps, hammers, or neither.
>>692782137No fucking way the watered down, cutscene slogfest bros combat in BiS is more than PiT
>>692800908>use an emulator that isn't broken.Which one should I use? I'm using the last Yuzu build.
>>692800775I bought Dream Team and Paper Jam before. I think I've supported Nintendo enough already.
>>692802684Ryujinx has no glitches but it crashes every 5 minutes.
>>692803937>i bought two games ten years ago>the east has fallen>billions must pirate
>>692773613Uh, Paper Mario??
>>692804638>Implying Nintendo will go bankrupt if I don't buy their latest game
>>692759509Anyone figured out why the gui folder makes the game crash on ryujinx? Deleting prevent crashing until the next restart.
>>692804164Doesn't that basically make the game unplayable?
>>692804896yeah unless you want to put up with visual aids on yuzu or sudachi
>>692759509trash, make bowser playable again
>>692804896My game kept crashing during the first boss fight. I ended up dusting off the old Switch with atmosphere and played on that. Without updates to Yuzu/Ryujinx new games are going to have bugs that aren't going to be fixed.
>>692805061>>692805110I guess I'd rather just deal with graphical glitches and actually be able to play the game. On that note, has anyone encountered lagging during battles? It makes timing button presses difficult.
Alright so this game is basically kino. All the gripes I'm seeing in this thread are just autism like complaining about the music or this and that. But the one thing that ruins it for me is the small loading time in between starting/ending a battle. It's nowhere near as bad as PS1 rpgs but still... what the fuck man. I go up to a group of 3 or so enemies and the game has to make me wait through 6 fucking loading screens.
>>692804164it crashes because of the cpu. change the one cpu menu option off of host (unchecked)
Did they finally stop with the constant Luigi bashing?
>>692805445yeah luigi's just considered kinda quirky by concordia's residents and not bad or a loser or anything, haven't met starlow or bowser or anybody yet that might keep up the trend
>>692805445I haven't played the leak yet but I assume it would stop given how Dream Team went.
>>692805171In my experience with Ryujinx, the only crashes have been when trying to load a save or very rarely when hitting a save block (like twice out of the whole time I've played). The emulator stutters so much though, it'll be fine for a few minutes and then decide it's time to jump down to single digit frame rates, meaning I have to kill time until the emulator gets back up to speed. Would not recommend, if I had a hacked Switch I would be playing it on that.
>playing it on a hacked switch and don't have to put up with any emulator bullshit
>Brothership a disappointment>TTYD HD underperformed SUPER MARIO RPG BROSWE WON
>>692804164Try deleting the gui folder it worked for me.
>>692805929You could also stop being thieving scum and buy it so more games get made
>>692805929yeah but the game looks like shit. with low res and no anti-aliasing.
>>692805985I plan on buying it once it actually releases
>>692805110>Without updates to Yuzu/Ryujinx new games are going to have bugs that aren't going to be fixed.Dumbest post ever. Why did zelda work so well on a 2022 version of ryujinx then?
>>692805985no. Nintendo doesn't deserve any money until they stop being cunts, drop all lawsuits, stop sending false DMCAs against public domain code and apologise for being such cunts.
>>692805929I honestly don't know why people got so weepy over the emulators dying. Sure, it sucks, but so did they. For the console's entire lifespan.I can't recall another Nintendo generation that had such lackluster emulation. Besides maybe the 3DS with Citra, but I think those guys made Yuzu too, go figure.
>>692806106It's their intellectual property. Deal with it chud.
>>692759509>Not "What's the /v/ertict"You had one job anon
>>692760824>no YokoIs this true? That actually sucks.
>>6928061913DS emulation specifically sucked for as long as it did because there was no real point in it, a 3DS (more specifically a 2DS or New 2DS) was very easy to obtain and hacking it was very easy and had a plethora of benefitsswitch emulation comparatively is the change in architecture (it isn't four gamecubes lashed together like the wii u is) and the power specs of something above a PS3 in performance
>>692806196ok retard
>>692806196Open source code by 1000s of individuals that literally can not be owned?The concept of catching & storing things in an orb?they own fucking none of that.
>>692760824That's honestly what I was afraid of after they were recast. Charles truly was lightning in a bottle in that regard
>soulless loading screens>soulless music>soulless story>soulless padding>soulless charactersM&L is done after this dumpster fire.
>>692806426yeah that mario voice is fucking shit.that's the other reason Nintendo deserves to die.
>>692806276>>692806295stop giving (You) s to blatant bait morons
>>692806426the new guy is some cuck faggot
>>692759509It's going to be as bad as that Paper Mario one
>>692806426martinet did know spanish, which gave him a massive edge
>>692806653no
>>692806959sorry anon doomers all lost since the game leaked and we can see a couple weeks ahead of schedule
>>692807082Well.........is it good, then?
>>692765667Why do her eyes look like outlet plugs?
>>692770105It's definitely better than PIT and Paper Jam
>>692807110It's ok. Definition of mid. Also it runs like shit even on official hardware. They should have kept 2D sprites, game looks soulless without it.
>>692807178Because they're literally a race of outlet people
>>692768958No, Covid happened you dumb internet brainrotted fucker
>>692807110if you liked dream team even a little bit you'll like this onemain positives>combat is a sped-up version of dream team's>higher diversity in bros. attacks, even the obligatory green and red shells do different things now>jumps and hammers are now superstar saga style bros. attacks when both bros are alive, mario and luigi bounce off of eachother or use hammer strikes to power up their own hammer strikes>"luigi logic" gives bosses a lot of pizzazz>extreme customization in fights main negatives>stat-up roulette on level up is missing as it was in paper jam>music is good but nothing is especially memorable beyond the battle theme>luigi can suddenly develop dementia in the overworld and get lost or fall behind>luigi logic is pretty hamfisted in a lot of places and gives a short luigi cutscene just for introducing a puzzle that would have not gotten fanfare in previous games>NPCs are on the blander side because they're all one homogeneous race, though they still have more going on than toads>weird performance problems, nothing game-breaking or that makes it unplayable but the game doesn't do anything that should stress the switch as hard as it does>load times for battlesall of my negatives are nitpicks btw
>>692805445It's the opposite. It almost feels like wank. For some reason Luigi is this super genius and figures out everything with his "Luigi Logic". In the past games Mario did some of that too.
>>692806426>new mario sucks>new luigi is alright>new wario is dogshit>new waluigi is okayYeah, not really a fan either. Shame Nintendo had to cheap out and cling to one guy doing all four. Charles could do it because he legitimately had the chops for it. Rude as it is to say, Kevin just doesn't have what it takes to be a 4-in-1.
>>692807586it's not even "cheaping out" cause it's not like they don't have the money to pay 4 world-class voice actors easilyliterally just doing the same gimmick because charles did it
>>692770105>>692770643>>692771884Then again, the people behind Pokémon BDSP are also behind Brothership
>>692772905Someday Sonic Bros, someday
>>692772905the game that finally excised penders and archie from the franchise.......
>>692807795why did they even rehire when charles has voiced mario 300000 times and they could just reuse those same voice lines for years to come?
>>692773613This is one of the reasons I want a SMRPG2 also wasn’t SMRPG the first time Bowser was playable?
>>692807870It's not ILCA
>>692805445I saw a screenshot of Starlow forgetting his name and just calling him "Mario's brother"
>>692807586>>692807795It is cheaping out. They hired the guy who does the Nintendo Direct voice overs to do Mario and friends.https://www.kevinzafghani.com/demoListen to the second one that's clearly the guy saying DK swings onto Nirnendo Switch in January.https://youtu.be/qdjam3yHC-4
>>692774234Big Arms remix in Chronicles and Gens 3DS comparisons are like Night and Day
>>692759509>Took out the bonus roulette wheel for stats on level ups>Final boss theme sucks assFucking ouch, I was gonna pre-order this shit too...
>>692808053they will inevitably come across situations where they need a new voice actor, i.e. promotional materialnintendo is also not retarded so they're not hopping on board the AI train, especially because that would also involve purchasing the rights to charles martinet's voice clips from him, and giving martinet money is something they don't seem to like doing
>>692774447TTYD Remake had a very slow start too and it’s worse given you can’t skip text unless it’s repeated, I don’t see myself ever replying the remake
>>692759509Every attack being a bro attack fucking sucks
>>692808196I still can't believe that shit was the final boss theme. I'll wait for a full video first.
still a better soundtrack than fart of the wild
>>692808113is that the "woshi, double yoshi exploshie" guy?I fucking hate that guy.
What happened bros I thought the Switch was the second coming of the Nintendo DS
>>692805963I can picture a third panel of this meme where SMRPG Remake is laughing because it has the highest sales of the 3, but then again it’s too early to say since Brothership isn’t even out yet
>>692794871>Luigi is now the A buttonI can see that being a big complaint on all social media and wanna hear something ironic, I was rewatching some AVGN on on the Virtual Boy Mario Clash they switched the controls of that game too.
>>692793467People were hyping up Sonic Superstars too even when it was revealed Arzest was working on it lmao
>>692810967Who cares? i love both
>>692785031Like every other reply is saying the best reason could be that the Switch is nearing the end of its life and it just simply came too late compared to saySSS which was 2003, not too late for the GBAPIT which was 2005, also not too late for DSBiS which was 2009, not sure about this oneDT which was 2013 and it being the year of Luigi, not too late for the 3DS I’d sayPJ was 2015 or 16 I think? Yeah nobody liked itAnd then came the remakes…
>>692792560Maybe we're getting too old :(
>>692808054Nope, Super Mario Kart was four years before.
>>692802083I can’t believe they stole the Spindash from Felicia, kek
>>692773718After Ubisoft laid off most of the people responsible for it.>>692807870It's not them
>>692760824In defense of the new voice actor I just can’t wait for new voicelines for Mario, Luigi, Wario and Waluigi in Smash 6, they’ve been reusing voicelines since fucking Brawl
>>692759509>game isn’t out and very few people are playing it>hurrr what’s the verdictRetard
>>692775831A lot of it is nostalgiaAnytime people say that one or two games are the only good ones is a huge red flag, since you’ll never see them actually criticise the games in the same breathI dunno why they’re still here
>>692785031It’s not out, so most people aren’t playing it/are probably avoiding leak threads
There’s a guy in the other thread who really likes it a lot and beat the gameI believe him because he’s posting stuff and actually answering questions instead of just vague posting
>>692807375>>luigi can suddenly develop dementia in the overworld and get lost or fall behindWhat happens if you leave him behind? I know in the older games, he's "glued" to Mario, so you can't leave him behind.>>692813567>Some people will have finished the game before it officially releasesI don't know why, but that makes me laugh.
>>692814862>What happens if you leave him behind? I know in the older games, he's "glued" to Mario, so you can't leave him behind.unfortunately the game wrests control from you and makes mario wait for luigi to catch up; if he can't do it within a very quickly determined period of time, mario will also move automatically towards luigi to try to get them paired up again
>>692815089Interesting. I think they should have kept them glued together like in the older games. I also wish they had the "Let's a go! Okey dokey!" from BIS or the "Let's a go, la!" from PiT, but those are just nitpicks.
Goyslop
How really bad the music is?
So if Yoko didn't do the music, does anyone know the name of the person/people behind the OST?
>>692785031It unironically might be shittier then Paper Jam. What the fuck were they cooking?>>692785379>Costa ConcordiaGood one! We're gonna be referring to this slop as that since it's flopping so hard in our eyes.
>>692785031>It can't just be the occasional bugs/glitches with emulatorsNah it's just poorfags complaining about crashes on emulators.The game take a very long time to get going, it feels like the game really begins after the first boss fight.That said I wish the game was harder. M&L games shouldn't be afraid to output more undodgeable attacks at you.
>>692813567Link? I'm tired of reading doomposts in this thread from retards who haven't played for more than an hour.
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