Hamaguchi will save Aeris now
Aerith*
>>692947246Let's fucking go
i can't believe Sephiroth's sword was actually created by an old man named Masamune.
>sneed ruiners>Aeriszee~~**
>>692947246Game devs on twitter is literal cancer, and I don't think I'm interested in a guy who think The Last of Us, Horizon Zero Dawn and Ubisoft shit are good game design. After Nomura retires Square will die
>>692947246Aeris will be saved with the fucking PC port
>>692947246The speedrunner that saved aerAerithis
>>692947246>chinkmen tries to shill Stilbirthcan't believe final fantasy is as dead as Aeris rotting corpse in that lake.
>>692948718>troll who never played the original game on PC and PS1 is a blizzdronemany such vulpera cases
>>692947246>now
>>692949054She's so beautiful.
You have to be literally room temperature IQ to not understand that they set up the whole parallel universes thing so that you'll be able to pick from a dozen possible endings in part 3.
>>692949569Thanks for complimenting my wife.
who cares about canon used goods
>>692947246rebirths ending was so fucking shit god damn
>>692947246
>>692950257>Cloud/Tifa/Aeris three way releationship
>>692950257But you will only have 7 seconds to pick
>>692947246Three years until the end.Time enough for you, perhaps.But what will you do with it?
>>692947340Didn't the guy turn into Masamune
>>692950257They already said shit is gonna end the same way. You're getting an extended "goodbye" and that's it.
>>692947246based
>>692950896>reverse world>upside down>tree where Cloud isbut what does it meeeeean
>>692947246NOOOOOOO
>>692947246>Cloud! Save her!What did Zack mean by this?
>>692950475Exactly, who cares about Tifa?
>>692951519I'm going out on a limb here, but could it mean that Cloud should save her???
>>692947246>hamaguchjwill he be in the game?
>>692947246everyone who said that you couldn't save her needs to apologize.
>>692947246Aerith*
>>692951712Tifa only shows her scar to Cloud
>>692952061Unless scar is slang for nips or vag, why would I want to see that?
>>692950257Fahrenheit, Celsius or Kelvin?
>>692952061Tifa fucked Johnny
>>692950257
>>692952547Did you quote the wrong post retard?
>>692947246[Good news]
>>692952621>pick from a dozen possible endings>Aerith already warned you it's not real
>>692952782You are completely misinterpreting that scene.
>>692947323
>>692952852Nah, everyone else tried to forget about it once Rebirth explained why she'd say that
oh no no no
>>692953006Cope. The dev already explained it years ago
>>692949054That's a man.
>>692953006That was lifestream Aerith from OG. She was trying to protect Cloud from the impact of her future death. She tried to imply that Cloud's feelings for her are not real and just an echo of Zack's.She was wrong on two counts. First she did not understand that the multiple worlds will allow her to be saved. Second, Cloud's feelings were genuine.
>>692953079>Aerith is also telling herself not to fall in love because it's not realthanks for proving my point further
>>692947323Wrong, Aeris was a more accurate translation. Calling her Aerith is a Kingdom Hearts retcon that no one should take seriously. Like Cloud being emo or Squall being named Leon...
>>692953170Nojima already confirmed that line is because she suffers a terrible fate in OG>her true heart and thoughts are closed off
>>692953170None of it is real it's a video game
>>692953006she said that so he wont chase her and end up depressed after her death you retard
>>692953145>Cloud's feelings for her are not real Correct>Cloud's feelings were genuinesee >>692953079, according to Toriyama she's also telling herself they aren't real
>>692953441you are literally misinterpreting it deliberately and hope you can gaslight your way to it because your feelings are literally hurt about the actual fact... you are basically a pussy lol
>>692953218>Nojima already confirmed that line is because she suffers a terrible fate in OGWhich means what exactly? Don't forget to provide sources.
>>692953441By this point it's painfully clear your reading comprehension is zero
>>692951071are we copying skyward sword now?
>>692950475Tifa is way more used than Aeris
>>692953383Thing is he's not depressed after her death because ghost Aerith is still around. Almost as if he's chasing a mirage...
>>692953551>your feelings are literally hurt about the actual factI'm not the guy calling other people names about it, lol
>>692953576It's from remake ultimania. I don't have a screen
>>692953604Or maybe yours is? Why would Aerith not want Cloud to chase a ghost of her when that ghost is seemingly leading him to bringing the black materia straight to Sephiroth?
>>692950772It was actually pretty subtle and convoluted. No wonder the average player can't get it.Additionally, people are too short-sighted to understand that they couldn't have ended the game on such a tragic note; they had to go with an open and not overly tragic ending. The same goes for Sephiroth. You already fight him at the end of the first remake chapter, which only makes sense because they needed to end the game with a battle against Sephiroth; otherwise, it wouldn't have made sense.
>>692953868>vague allusions to the OG>the context still remains that Aerith is telling Cloud that his feelings aren't real
>>692953058Isn't he talking about Tifa here???
>>692954203? He clearly says the line is there because of what happens to Aerith in OG aka she is trying to protect Cloud. Literally the entire answer focuses on the fact that if you know what happens to Aerith the line will make sense.In particular, during the nighttime flower field scene in Chapter 14, Aerith tells Cloud “You can’t fall in love with me. Even if you do, it’s not real.” For those who are familiar with the original story, this line carries a lot of meaning.Nojima: To be honest, some staff actually told me that this line made it seem like Aerith was looking down on Cloud, so it got rejected a few times. If you know Aerith’s fate, then this line would really pull at your heart strings, but if you did not know what happens to Aerith, then you might interpret the scene in a completely different way. I thought the gap between the two interpretations was very interesting.
>>692947246they're talkin about the OG FF7 btw. sounds probably lunar harp skip to get into disc 2 junon maybe?
PC port when?
>>692947246How many impressionable young gamers did he condemn to trannyism with the Walmarket section of FF7?
>>692954575wall market was the only section of both remakes that was an improvementHojo's VA in remake is also notable
>>692947323Thethiroth Killth Aerith
>>692947340The same swordsmith made Frog’s sword and katana wielded by Connor MacLeod of the Clan MacLeod. Wild stuff.
>>692954575Cloud hated it so 0.Although it is disturbing how many women love Cloud being forced to wear womans clothing despite clearly feeling uncomfortable the whole time.
I am surpried by the amount of hidden fight mechanics this game have.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqKLhyOdlu0
>>692954456>she is trying to protect Cloudfrom being led astray by false emotions>if you know what happens to Aerith the line will make senseShe dies, Cloud gives a big speech about how he feels and Sephiroth laughs at him because he is a "puppet"
>>692954792because a strong man being able to embarass himself and lose nothing from it is an attractive trait to a womanaeris is also just a faghag
>>692955072I still didn't get the alpha stuff in the magics
>>692955120>from being led astray by false emotionsexcept the answer says it's because of what happens to Aerith. Keep coping lmao
>>692955185Cloud's false feelings aren't mutually exclusive from existing at the same time Aerith dies, you're truly grasping at straws here
>>692955364Here I will copy the relevant answer here:>In particular, during the nighttime flower field scene in Chapter 14, Aerith tells Cloud “You can’t fall in love with me. Even if you do, it’s not real.” For those who are familiar with the original story, this line carries a lot of meaning.>Nojima: To be honest, some staff actually told me that this line made it seem like Aerith was looking down on Cloud, so it got rejected a few times. If you know Aerith’s fate, then this line would really pull at your heart strings, but if you did not know what happens to Aerith, then you might interpret the scene in a completely different way. I thought the gap between the two interpretations was very interesting.
>>692955440You just repeated the same thing that's been posted twice already. The context is still Aerith telling Cloud his feelings are false.
>>692947323Eric*
>>692955603Yea to protect him>If you know Aerith’s fate, then this line would really pull at your heart strings.>And her true thoughts and heart are closed off.Anyway enough. You clearly wont admit you were wrong and unaware of this interview. Everyone else can see what Nojima meant and nowhere in the answer does he say it's because of Cloud's feelings being false at all. Neither does Toriyama
>>692955747>Yea to protect himAsk yourself, when is it in the OG does Cloud truly break down and become ineffectual and worse yet, actively detrimental to himself and the world?
>>692955129Imagine if Aerith manipulated Cloud and Zack into kissing each other for her own sick pleasure haha
>>692947246After seeing the ending I understand why everyone calls it Redditbirth now.
>>692955129Plenty of them don't see Cloud as a strong man. Women have this weird fetish with putting weak attractive men into embarrassing feminine situations. Some modern brainrot.
>I hope Cloud and all the other characters will finally find happiness.I am sure this means absolutely nothing.
Mid-2025 Seems Possible for The Inevitable PC Port
Is this true?Is Aerith a 90s heroine?
True love
>>692956715cloud is a masculine tough guy
>>692955150what do you mean? it just makes the spells stronger
>>692959426no, it doesn't lolit's a familiar
>>692947246Why is Remake Cloud such a pussy?OG Cloud TANKED that with a cool monologue.Remake Cloud needs force ghost daijoubu.
>>692959468yes it does lol
>>692958686debunked by aerith >>692952547
>>692951202>They already said shit is gonna end the same wayNo they didn't.
>>692959682No, made my research>What does it actually do?Let me start with what it DOESN'T do :it does NOT increase the damage of the spellit does NOT imbue the weapon with the element nor does it add any bonus damage to basic attacksNow for what it does :when you cast your alpha magic, you get a sphere rotating around you of the same element (a red sphere for fire alpha for example)this sphere automatically throws a missile of the same element when you guard (no need to time it) against certain attacks, but not all. Against orcs for example (the basic green enemy with a mace, I don't know if it's the same in English), it counter attacks when they do the move where they roll towards you but not on their basic attacks. For the elephants, it counter attacks on their projectiles and most of their basic attacks. I don't know if it is bugged and should proc on every attack or if there is some weird rule I am not aware of. However, it seems to always work on a perfect parry.the sphere will also attack when you use skills. For example, Tifa using unbridled strength throws a missile to the nearest enemythe projectile deals low magic damage in a small area but it does stagger enemies, can crit and is of the same element of the spell used so you can take advantage of elemental weakness.the sphere appears to stay indefinitelyonly one sphere can be active at a time (using alpha ice will override the fire sphere for example)
>>692959767debunked by Toriyama and Nojima>>692953868>>692953079
>>692947323It's been almost 27 years. Let it go.
>>6929508967 minutes*
>>692953127t.
Aerisites shitting up the board.
>>692959870re-read the reply chainboth of them verify Aerith is telling Cloud not to fall for false feelings
>>6929601519 minutes
>Aerith threads always 500>Tifa doesn't even get threadsheh
>>692947246She will ride the highwind.
>>692955869
>>692960563Can someone explain why this gets posted with cait?
>>692960296no such thing as false feelings
>Even Barret
>>692961871No.
>>692961917
>>692952061Aerith has smooth skin and no scar.
>>692947246PC
>>692947246NuAerith is second most pretty vidya character in the last decade, second only to Ciri.
>>692947246>Aeris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtqQzzA3_nM
>>692962472Tell me
>>692947246You ain't gonna trick me with this bullshit anymore. "Fly the Highwind around Ruby Weapon 99 times." Fuck you.
>>692960660It’s because Aeris/th/x is beautifully transcoded, while Tifa is chudcore. We’re an extremely tolerant, progressive imageboard.
VI collab is coming to Ever crisis
>Nomura literally made Cloud incredibly handsome because a friend of his complained about being unattractive and wanted to be the good-looking character, at least in video games.
>>692964871video games are a power fantasy, unless they're gay and lame
>>692964871the exact opposite of what it's happenig now. People wants to be the ugly realistic one in vidya
There's something deeply poetic about the fact that the current speedrun of the original FF7 skips the entire section of the game that Rebirth covers.
https://youtu.be/ON9R0hqXinQ?si=LWjfXlKHQiB9oTUNAAAAA NOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT AGAIN WAIFU AERITH STAY WITH ME NOOOOOO
>>692960660tifa fans are generally stable people that don't nolife it on tibetan yodelling forumsaeris fan (it's one guy) is an unstable person who will necrobump the thread just enough to keep it alive foreverit is simply a statement on the mental stability of both fanbases
>>692965805The speedrun even allows you to fight with aerith against jenova
>>692966071what a normal and sane headcanon
>>692947246God damn. They really did rip off phantasy star ii all the way to the glitches, didn't they.It's hilarious how little shame oldschool square had.
>>692960689Lel
Aerith StrifeCissnei Fair
>>692951202This. Anyone who is sweaty enough to have followed all this shit including the interviews knows that it's opening up to cram the rest of the compilation autism inside and then it'll close back up to the status quo
>>692949054Aerith's purity and innocence makes her more sexually desirable than Tifa. You just want to ruin her, defile her through sex. You just want to tear off that modest dress of hers and expose the untouched naked flesh under it.
>>692966919Sorry but Aerith is for love and handholding.
>>692954012You are an idiot.
>>692966181Doing that will softlock the game tho as she has no dialogue lines or animations she can use in the cutscene after the battle
>>692967746No, that's for Tifa. You do wild, deplorable sex to the reserved one, you make sweet, passionate love to the tomboyish one. It's all about contrast.
Zissnei!
>>692968726aerith would shrink your dick with cetra magic and peg you herself
>>692950257ah yes7 endings
>Aerith will liv...ACK
>>692962583Why didn't Remake show this scene?
>No kissLMAO
>>692966919>Aerith's purity and innocenceDid we play the same game?
>>692971789Yes Aerith is pure and innocent.
>>692947323Fuck that's a stupid name.
>>692971726the games are selling badly enough as is, the devs don't want the cleriths trying to kill them as well
Saving Aerith as a possibility should annoy me but she's way too hot to be a corpse.
>>692964651
Predict Aerith's MtG card.
>>692947246https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKNqDbqIbRUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4TjmnoOKfg
>>692973669ohnonono hahahahahahahaha
>>692947246So how does this look then? She still needs to die for the plot to exist. All what you would be doing is having a character around that is functionally just a meat golem or meat ghost of sort. Nothing but a body since they will still talk as if she died.
>>692960689hot.
Oh I thought it was for the original...Who cares?
>>692974867>She still needs to die for the plot to exist.No she doesnt. AC being canon no more.
Ken Masters is the most mentally ill nigger alive and will be crying right next to the mudslime retards who wish they could eat Zack's cum out of Aerith's asshole once the third game is out and follows the exact same plot points as the OG.
>>692974867Oh no one needs to die anon, thanks to time traveling ghosts from another dimension, there don't need to be any stakes at all. They could all die and all you'd have to do is pluck one from another dimension because they're all totally indistinguishable from each other, Tifa A is identical to and has the same exact personality as Tifa B and Tifa C and Tifa D-136784/A, none of them can die and even if they did you wouldn't even know and neither would they, and in fact people were hypothesizing this exact thing earlier this year. Isn't that awesome? There are no stakes, no drama, no loss, no risks, no possibility of failure, nothing at all.
>person who's never played FF7 gets addicted to fanart and fanfics>"omg aerith is just like me I'm a princess and I talk to flowers too and no one respects me as much as they should" >"omg she's perfect she should cheer up a fat shut in weeb like me and pull me out of my shell she's literally perfect" >every single time, they've never played the game>you tell them the story and they start sperging out about how Zack doesn't matter and Tifa is a whore just like all the real life bully girls that made them want to commit suicidethe pattern literally never changes
>>692973670wtf why does sephiroth face looks so female like?but hey at least hes not black
>>692976515Why do you people want her to live so badly? What is the point? So she can have romance with Cloud forever and ever?
>>692977437That's the only reason the entire remake trilogy exists so the answer to your question is yes. There is sincerely no other reason for its existence, the story changes, or the general attitude of it. The game has been reduced to a ship and nothing else is important or even matters, there are no other things truly going on, it doesn't matter how anything else plays out at this point.
>>692977437everything after the original game keeps hinting at cloud and aerith relationship so often its unreal, why do you think cloud and tifa weren't together for real in AC? SE knows people get too invested into these dumb ships so they just string them along in order to keep more attention into the games flowing
>>692947323Faggot ass lisp.
>>692978512>why do you think cloud and tifa weren't together for real in ACI don't think that since I don't suffer from brain damage like you do, and my skin is also fair unlike yours which looks like feces.
>>692978853If you don't suffer brain damage like we do, then why do you care if some people want to see their ship realized?
>>692979178I swear brown people and flips need to be blocked from ever accessing the internet.
>>692947246Why did he kill off Aerith then?
>>692980139He enjoys fleecing and torturing retarded otaku and fat weebs who never played the original game or understood what the story even was.
>>692980350The story was about saving the world from meteor right?
>>692947246Aerisdies used to be a hentai porn website
>>692980556That would be part of the plot.
>>692980556The story was about enslaving and then genociding brown people so the world could live in peace.
>>692972560>aerith/earth>cloud>barret/bullet>red 13>sephirot(h)
>>692981204I dunno man the meteor is in the title card
>>692981412https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiferethttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sefirot
>>692981457That would be part of the plot.
>>692981664So what is the story about?
>>692962779
>>692952061Tifa has no scar
>Time jannies want a sad mailman
>>692983126Yes Tifa is the crazy one, not Cloud.
>>692950257I wish but they’ve confirmed that the story is ending the same and continuing to Advent Children
>>692976945Aerith is for flat chungus selfinsert, they are also old so they thing talking like little girls will make them youngerI prefer a woman talking like an adult woman desu
>CLOUD LOOK AT MY TITS>LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK>LOOK AT THEM!Tifa canonically does not have this problem
Depressed Mailman timeline is OFF the table. Quarter Cetra Twins is where this train is rolling.
>>692972724I see clotis are STILL getting more unhinged by the day, it will be a sad sight when part 3 lands
>>692983569Surely you can prove that in some way and aren't just a coping cloti?
I haven’t played these remakes does she not die in rebirth?
>>692983596Aerith is for triple digit IQ people who can interpret the storyline. Tifa is for functionally retarded incels who can't think beyond LE TITS.
>>692984674Rainbows
>>692950257You have to be literally room temperature IQ to give a fuck about part 3 at all anon.
>>692952061*and Johnny
>>692984787t. Jealous flattie who thinks women with big boobs are le bad
>>692947323https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYT_Cy1JBuU
>>692985043I'm a man but I have an army of clerith wine aunts at my disposal so don't push me
>>692947323Fpbp, retards will forever be retarded
>>692949054People unironically choose Tifa over this Radiant Beauty of a Woman and >>692966919 perfectly sums it all up
>>692968809>*ACTIVATING COMBAT MODE*>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjpsHEaAOX0 [Open]>*schwing*>HAI>ERRRAH>HA>*slots land on tseng>*2000s cell phone rings*>"is this the end?">"NOT IF I CAN HELP IT>Airstrike Level 5>99999999>”OH YEAH”>*CONFLICT RESOLVED*
>>692968809Which way Soldier Boy?
>>692985548Chloe and Priscilla
>>692972271Why the fuck is this simple Aerith image so hot?
>>692974497Yuffie as Relm next
>>692982069Anybody got this meme but with Street Fighter 6 Terry?
>>692976945I played OG for the first time before Rebirth came out and I stopped after Cosmo Canyon. Been waiting the time to resume.
>>692959470Cloud was cool in Remake. But they made him lame again in Rebirth
>>692984674She dies but Cloud hallucinates that she's not dead making people think that she's not. It's actually a clever retcon to explain why Cloud didn't have a breakdown in the OG.
>>692985514Still the most kino death scene in all of FF
>>692976945I love how clotis desperately keep bringing up Zack all the time
>>692947246I give little to no fucks about this remake. At this point, the only way it can redeem itself is aerith, jessie, and tifa surviving with cloud impregnating them all in harem ending. Fuck the waifu wars, knock them all up is the true end goal.
>>692986058Is he not returning in part 3?
>>692985865It's not a hallucination, she's alive in the lifestream and will be revived, cope clotifag
>>692984674Cloud deflects Sephiroth's attack, splitting the world in two. One where she's alive and the other where she's not.
>>692986117Yes Sephiroth will revive her after he is redeemed.>>692986121But why did they leave her behind in the world where she survived?
Cloud, Zack, and REDEEMEDiroth fighting Super Ultra Mega Genova.
>>692986315Honestly, I can see them pulling some shit that Jenova was controlling Sephiroth and they cleanse it from him
>>692947246Latest confirmation that the remake project is a remake
>>692986267She's going to keep trying to make Holy work and not make things confusing for Cloud's party.
>>692986354
>>692986315>>692986348Not a doomposter, but this is clearly where things are headed. They don't want Sephiroth to just a be a bad guy.
>>692986380But the party knows that she's alive in that world.
>>692986432Then she's staying behind to work on Holy.
When is she going to send up smoke?
>>692986485After getting the Highwind.
>>692986461But holy has been summoned. The only thing left to do is to give the black materia to Sephiroth.
>>692986515>But holy has been summoned. Holy failed in the original.
>>692986592So why did she die?
>>692986630To troll Cloud
>>692986630Literally just for the shock value. The devs wanted to be edgy and kill a main party member, so they had Cloud, Aerith and Barret to choose from. Cloud had to stay alive because he’s the MC and Barret’s death wouldn’t really shock anybody, so they killed the main heroine. According to the devs themselves, there was no deep story reason behind it.
>>692984540where's S-E's sales milestone announcement for Rebirth?
>>692986429>sefiroffs a good boi he dindu nuffin
>>692986781Jokes on her he didn't lose his mind like he did with Zack.
>>692951435Nothing. Get ready to be super disappointed when the third game (assuming it even gets made) is more straightforward adaptation until the end when shirtless Sephiroth instead of being defeated tells Cloud to follow him through a portal, leading to FFVII Final Crisis.Screencap this.
>>692951435Promised land
>>692987596NOMURAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>692987596So the meteor destroys the world?
>>692947246they could have found better ways to play with our expectations instead of changing the whole canon and making it about multiverses
>>692976945Nice projection, it is Tifa fans who never played the game just saw the tits.
>>692974497How do Tifafags keep losing kek
>>692973669
>>692977186Lots of people on twatter were saying it's AI art. Lots of inconsistencies
>>692990553Can’t wait for the seethe when Tifa will be getting Zell/Wakka skins in the eventual FF8/FF10 crossovers while Aerith gets Rinoa/Yuna
>>692991478>>692990553>>692974497Samefag
>>6929736692 collabs. 2 instances in which Cloud and Aerith are portrayed as the hero and heroine. Really gets the brain juices flowing.
>>692992857That's because they are.
>>692992857I mean most FF heroines are mages in dresses.I guess Rinoa and Maybe Jill(haven't played XVI yet so idk) could be Tifa
>>692992956Then why does Tifa fuck Cloud at the end of OG
>>692993741Isn't that scene based on affinity?I think last scene in game aerith opening her eyes
>>692994347No it's canon they fuck
>>692994347The tifag is lying and coping. Typical.Yeah, it's affinity-based, there are two scenes under the highwind. And none of that optional shit matters either way as Cloud's last line in the game never changes; he will always want to meet Aerith in the promised land.
>>692995968>he will always want to meet Aerith in the promised land.As a cherished FRIEND
>tifa aerith bickeringmeanwhile Cloud being an absolute chad
>>692997585With Tifa
>>692997847I didn't like the bahamut gears but this collab looks sick
>>692995968How come there was no mention of the promised land in AC and DoC?
>>692997851Exactly. Cloud and Tifa visit their cherished friend Aerith as a couple.
>>692990553It’s almost like she was always an afterthought and a silver medal as far as the devs were concerned,
>>692998530So why did they kill off Aerith in disc 1?
>>692947246That was always obvious, curious about how they will do it tho
>>692997847Cloud looks insanely good, it's wild how much he fits with every Crossover FF outfit. He looks good as Zidane, now even better as Locke.
>>692947323Zoomer disneyfag moment
>>692998530Still think that Tifa fans are deranged as fuck because 2 months ago they were going insane over her summer outfit and the bahamut one while trashtalking Aerith's summer skin. But now they're acting like they're being abused.
>>692966919there is a 100% chance she will enjoy it and make sure to reverse the trap, the quiet ones are the ones who rivals a female khajiit in sex drive.>>692985612If you ever see or get your hands on the skyrim mod that was on /vg/ years ago she looks great with other hairs too, is just that she is too photogenic with any makeup.
>>692954764Melchior made Frogs sword, but it was composed of twin demons named Masa and Mune
>>692953174>More accurate translation In a game know for having a garbage translation. Kek I guess if your going for consistency
>>692998530>>692998954Lmao. Mentally ill clerith wine aunts detected. Good job just ignoring these posts >>692998358 >>692997851
>>692967920Nta but>Guy who couldn't understand the ending of a children's game calling anyone an idiot. Ironic lmoa
>>692999126Aerith - default date and love interesttifa - optionalCloud - Aeriths loverI don't need your levels of cope and misinterpretation.Keep screaming tho
I will literally never play this faggoty remake garbage :)
>>692999178>NtaSureYou're still an idiot.
Cloud should ditch those two whores and fuck Terra.
Reminder that this is how the original spoke abou Aeries' death:TifaI wonder what Aeris felt... when she was on that altar...?CloudI'm sure she wanted to give her life for the planet...TifaReally? I wonder? I don't think that's it at all.I think she didn't think she would die at all, but that she planned on coming back all along.She always used to talk about the 'Next time'.She talked about the future more than any of us...Although she never talked about it to us she must've had a rough life...I think Aeris looked forward to tomorrow and the future more than anyone......she must've had many many dreams...... Now it's all just game theory, multiple universe, lore discussion shit. The human element is totally erased.
>>692999267Zack is Aerith's lover did you even play the games?
>>692960689>Jungle Book snake eyes Kek. Kingdom Heart'th faggots are actual literal Disney troons hahahhahahaha
>>692999665Are you okay anon?
>>692997847Locke is literal incel
>>692999465>muh Zaaaaaa-ACK
>>693000130Why did they change this in CC and in Rebirth?
>>692999449Because that doesn't drive engagement.Remember the ME3 ending plan where it had "lots of discussion by everyone" as one of the points on the flowchart? That's what the entire "Remake" is about. It's engagement. A product as an advertisement for social media posts and youtube videos. Final Fantasy VII's remake is like the bizarre decoration someone puts in their house whose only function is to start a conversation.>"Oh, that fish with boobs sure is interesting..."
>>692999381Terra is for Edgar only
>>693000249They didn't change it.
>>692992857Aerith didn't get Celes's outfit though
>>693000130She only says that because she thinks he ghosted her>>693000249To not confuse retards like that anon
>>692999449I talked about it in another thread but>Cloud>...Shut up.>The cycle of nature and your stupid plan don't mean a thing.>Aeris is gone.>Aeris will no longer talk, no longer laugh, cry...... or get angry......>What about us...... what are WE supposed to do?>What about my pain?>My fingers are tingling.>My mouth is dry.>My eyes are burning!After Aerith dies, Sephiroth tries to go on a long diatribe about the planet and the Promised Land and Cloud isn't one bit interested in that. Because Aerith is gone. Now isn't the time to be cerebral, his emotions are raw and angry and unstable. Because this is supposed to be an emotionally raw moment.So can anyone explain to me why Square looked at one of the most emotional moments in gaming history and decided this would be a great place for lore speculation? The exact thing Cloud didn't want to hear about?
>>692999449Of course it's not in Rebirth because it is from Disc 2 faggot.
The real reason why these cucks meltdown here today
>>693000461That's not the point he was making dipshit. He's saying FF7 acknowledged the finality of Aerith's death. There is no going into the Lifestream or the planet or the multiverse to hear her last words or help her do something she wanted or give her happy ending. Her story was cut short, regardless of anyone's feelings about it. And it's left to the living to just assume how she would feel in that moment. That's what makes death tragic
>>693000641NOMURA IS CLUELESS
>>692980139He didn't. At the end of R1 the party leaves for an alternate world where they could shape their own fate, at the end of R2 these worlds collide and when they return to the original world they came from where Aeris was supposed to have died the first time around(world 1), they leave Aeris behind alive and well in world 2. And Zack is in yet another world after having the same thing happen to him before the start of game 1. 3 parties in different timelines, which probably means we will get Jesse Biggs Wedge and Johnny as party members and a fourth dimension where a Dark Tifa forms when all of her exiled breast tissue that has been cast into the void tries to reclaim her body
>>692972560Yeah, cause Aeris is such a normal common name
Is it possible to have sex in the lifestream?
>>693000667Yeyeah I know but the game is giving us a different message for now, because the devs thought there is no point in repeating the same lesson that everyone already knows for more than 2 decades. It can't satisfy everyone I guess.
>>692999294>Paranoia>No argumentSad
>>693000425>She only says thatThat's his fundamental trait, cuck
>>693000821What is there to argue about? You didn't tell us what you think the "children's ending" actually means.
>>693000450See: >>693000260You can bet that this was workshopped and talked about. What can we change that would make even people against it get involved with the engagement. Aeries' death is now just a hashtag in the algorithm, a debate thread on Reddit.Yes, you were meant to 'feel about' Aeries' death rather than 'think about' it, but what kind of engagement would that provide? Lots of sad faces and them moving on?I mean, yes, many people who played FF7 at the right time in their lives were deeply affected by scenes like you and >>692999449 posted, but that's not measurable.>>693000461The point went over your head. You're the exact person the remake was made for.Even if they put that exact scene in the remake, word for word, it's too late now. Because Aeries' death isn't a young woman's life cut short, it's a lore discussion about multiple universes and alternate timelines.In the original Aeries is gone. She'll never come back, and they'll never see her again. In the remake she's alive in some alternate universe if only you can select the right options from a menu.
>>692999846>Pretend not to noticeAnon, show some backbone
>>693000425>>693000849
>>692947323lolno total Æris supremacy
>>693000849What's whose fundamental trait? Cleriths getting unhinged
Read >>693000725 then read >>693000450 and >>692999449The difference between the original and the remake in a nut shell.
>>692999126What the fuck are you talking about, schizo. Are you a middle aged woman?
>>693000405So why did Aerith write 88 letters for Zack?
>>693000641I think the only FF where Tifa would get the main role is probably 16, and even that one i'm not so sure because Jill is a mage and she uses a full blown dress, i've never seen them make Tifa work with a dress in EC.
>>693000876Read this >>693000802
It’s not aerithdies you fucking savages
>>693001231... You know that the finality of death and the sadness of those left behind isn't some trend, right? It doesn't go out of date. It's part of the human experience.
>>693001131>crisis coreand even there ultimania destroys your headcanon.
>Aerith gets Jill outfit>Tifa gets Benedikta outfit
>>693000802But they can use the same characters and plot beats? I've been saying this for like 4 years now but if they didn't want to redo FF7 then why are they redoing FF7? Why not do something after Dirge? Or help out the 16 team? Or fuck it, start on 17?
>FF7 Threads before Remake: People just casually talking about the very straightforward and easily understood story and their thoughts and feelings of it>FF7 threads after Remake: Endless circular spergery about "MUH TIMELINES" and "WHAT DID THIS THING THEY CHANGED FTOM THE ORIGINSL MEAN?", everyone coping that they will destroy the tragedy of Aeriths death (the thing that made the OG for iconic and memorable) by somehow bullshitting her back via said timeliness autism because they want to fuck her, people defending the remakes butchering the OG because they just want their waifu to live, story quality be damned, and no nstop waifu faggotryImagine if they just did a faithful Remake instead.
>>69300131788 platonic letters
>>692947323Alipheese?
>>693000725Why did they leave Aerith behind?
>>693001357Both girls wouldnt fit that well because Jill is a mage and uses a sword but yeah. I think Benedicta would be easier to turn into Tifa because she fights with her wings and claws and uses a type of bodysuit, perfect for Tifa.
>>693001317this>>693000249>>693001028>change this in Rebirthno.cucktis can not really read and can't even find a clever way to pretend as if they can
>>693001413Hamaguchi said CC is not canon to remake project because it is its own thing.There are things they pull from it that's it
>>693001408If you want a fun time try and track down some of the theories about FF7's story from the 90s, where there was a major, widely-held, belief that Sephiroth was actually a puppet for Jenova the entire time.
>>693001308It's been 30 years. Just let them be happy anon.
>>693001562>dude just change the story so the point of the story isn't the story any more
>>692947246That's the whole purpose of the last 2 games so...yeah.
>>693001524Kitase said it's canon. Also it's in EC.
>>693001408The ironic thing is that zoomers go wild for this soulless shit, then will go on about "millennial writing."
>Clotifa vs Claerith threads still happeningGood grief
>>693001615Story is still about stopping sephiroth tho. Aerith living doesn't change that
>>693001856So why did she die?
>>693001964She didn't give Cloud his pizza like she promised. Sorry Jairus
>>693001505Could've just made her say no to Cloud's question. Also make her confess properly.
>>693001804Tifa and Aerith are on a complete different level when we talk about heroine popularity in FF. In the way that even if FF7's fanbase is divided between them they still get more fanarts and content than all the other ff heroines.
>>693001856That's the most surface level take in the history of surface level takes. You'd be satisfied if FF7 was a romcom so long as Sephiroth was the antagonist
>>693001856>Story is still about stopping sephiroth tho.That's what the plot is, but it's not what FF7's story is about.
>>693001615>>693002054Suppose she dies again. Then what? People will cry for 3 months and then move on. By the time part 3 is released, it will be "ah sucks that I can't use aerith now", just like that.I mean we all have been there. I don't mean to say there is no point at having to go through all of that again, but by the format we are having now, going to that same beat isn't as rewarding anymore.And what if the story continues as is now? We can still expect part 3 to start and progress as the original. Half past that, Aerith will rejoin and be playable again. That doesn't really change disc 2 does it? Even if she still dies again, you will see her face just before the credits like in the original. Don't just reject change for the sake of rejecting change. And I dont mean that they did everything right. Rebirth had serious issues regarding Zack and whatever the last chapter was.
nice saltmine thread
>>692947246>only just figured out how to do thatwelcome to 25 fucking years ago, dumbasses
>>693002103So why leave her behind?
>>69300205014 is catching up tho
>>693002103If you're going to take the route then why have Aerith die at all? This is the problem with Remake as a whole, it's the self aware, meta, remake that's not a remake, lukewarm cash grab. That's a lot of buzzwords but I seriously think it applies to this whole project.
>>692953174>implying cloud wasn't emo
>>693002513>"Let's mosey."
>>69300240914 is a gaas, hard to compete when you're dealing with OCs and people who self insert in relationships with those npcs
>>692947323I name her Aerif,
>>693002103Shut up. You talk like a fag.
>>692947246They are obviously going to save her, but the ending could still be like FFX. When Sephiroth is killed for good maybe worlds must break apart again. If you get perfect ending then Cloud just slashes reality in half again and does a cool pose and a oneliner about fate being his bitch
>Cloud, in the original game, only actually knows aerith for all of 2 weeks before she dies>Even the player barely actually spends any time with her since the OG wasn't even that long and she dies halfway through>I am supposed to believe he somehow fell in love with her in such a short span of time and be emotionally moved by her deathIt's actually bad writing when you thinking about it.
>>693002346It isn't explained yet. My guess is that Holy will be activated for real this time.>>693002508You're just upset because it brands itself "Remake" while not fulfilling your standards for a game remake. Have it your way. It's called Final Fantasy yet there are now 16 of them, and more. Life is too short to be upset for this. Dont like it dont buy.
>>693002668>When Sephiroth is killed for goodI hate how Sephiroth has turned into some god, when in the original he's some chump who turned himself into a schizo then got owned by a faceless grunt.
>>693002716Wow time doent matter for romance, amazingYou must feel very smart by realizing that Jack and Rose only knew each other for 2 weeks in Titanic, right?
>>693002716Are you a robot?
>>693002795The argument is also a failure because the ones who say that most of the time are tifa fans, but the whole point of the story is how Cloud and Tifa also were never really close nor friends at all
>>693002508nta but they're balancing retcons, the original story, and cliffhangers. The one thing both sides don't get is that they still need to sell the games as "complete" games. Because they split up the games to parts, they are in a unique position to add unique shit to each part to have the players have a sense of playing a complete game. Think of it like Kingdom Hearts having unique new enemies in each installment even though they amount to nothing. In Remake it was whispers and in Remake it was timelines.
>>693002751It's not exclusively that it brands itself a remake. It's also that despite wanting to change things it still follows FF7 beat for beat. Hey here's an idea: instead of stripping Aerith of her memories at the start of the game, have her start Rebirth knowing the endgame and going a totally different direction.
>>693001408>FF7 Threads before Remake: People just casually talking about the very straightforward and easily understood story and their thoughts and feelings of it>Tifa shutting up >Ending ambiguos >Jenova or sephiroth in control>How in the actual fuck does cloud-zack even workOh shut up you moron, ff7 is a whole can of worms when it comes to ambiguous stuff that people never understood
>>693002989Yep, since 97 people have doubts about how much in control sephiroth is of himself.
>>693002989>>Jenova or sephiroth in controlWhile the "technically correct" position is Sephiroth, Jenova being in control the entire time is just cooler.
>>692999449>The human element is totally erased.???
Your post this >>693002984 is genuine criticism.Your post this >>693002508 is just complaining for branding.
>>693002751So they will retcon the part where they need to kill Sephiroth first before holy can activate? Why not have Aerith join them to defeat Sephiroth and then summon holy? And in beagleverse where Aerith died, was holy not summoned?
>>693003048Well, now we know he's a demi-god with time travel powers.>>693003113Human beings die. There is no "alternative timeline" to unlock where that doesn't happen.
>>693002965That isn't my issue. I know they have to be "complete" standalone games that are also parts of a trilogy. But there are ways to do that without getting into many worlds theory bullshit. For example I think the idea that Wutai hasn't lost the war but rather it was put on pause to be super compelling. And that Yuffie isn't just doing this on her own but rather she's on assignment to be a great pivot from where she was in 7. It's a change but I think it's a great one that doesn't break FF7
>>693002964The FF7 novel literally confirms that Cloud and Tifa loved each other as teens in Nibelheim.>cleriths on suicide watch
>>693003182>beagleverseFF7R fans say shit like this and expect me to take it seriously.
Another victory for theorychads
>>693003182I'm not a seer so I don't know where this is going. I'm just arguing that despite some questionable decisions, her living as of now is not really changing anything substantial in part 3 that would make the game uncomfortable to play, or so I think at this time.
>>693003296We're a long way from Sakaguchi...>>693003234>The FF7 novellol fuck off
>>693003289Then don't participate in the discussions
>>693003365It's a canon novel (and a really good one) written by Nojima himself, seethe
>>693003356If you can't see why the multiverse-time-travel shit doesn't radically change the nature of Aeries' death, then we'll never be able to have a discussion on the matter.
>>693003356So when will she die?
>>693003535Everything is the same buy the game. But if you want changes then everything changed and you should buy the game as well
>>693003450>It's a canon novelSays who?
>>693003597Square Enix
>>693003645Weird, because FF7 was made by Squaresoft.
>>693002984The thing that gets me is if we really have to put up with this alternate worlds shit why are they all so similar to each other. Some people say it is because they're not alternate worlds and just the lifestream but that seems like cope when it's obvious they exist just to bring dead characters back to life. I have no faith in them doing something genuinely interesting with it.But if I HAVE to put up with it, why are they so similar as to be essentially indistinguishable from each other? There is no difference between 1 version of aerith and another version. If this must happen why could we not see actual changes. Why didn't we see a universe where Dyne led Avalanche because Barrett died at the Crater, or a universe where Zack survived and Cloud died, or a universe where Tifa is a radically different person because Cloud never took the job and they never met again, or their childhood events were so different she became a different person.
>>693003535So what? She won't be appearing in part 3 until the last third. You happy?The gameplay from the party's perspective will be more or less the same until she gets back.
>>693003727I like the idea that the Shinra marketing guy who created Stamp is the one making all these universes since those are the only real changes between them
Sephiroth literally tells you the new worlds are created when fate is defied.When harbinger is defeated Zack lives and spawns a new timeline.Everything else to that moment was the same.
>>693003748So will she die again to save the world?
>>693003859meant for >>693003727
>>693003859Zack died 2 months before the whispers were defeated.
>>693003859That doesn't impress me as an excuse. If I have to put up with this multiverse exhaustive shit I'd rather get to see some alternative outcomes. I don't really care what excuse they give, sounds like a copout to me, I guess nobody in the FF7 universe ever defied fate until the party came along, which just shrinks the entire world down to only them mattering to me. It doesn't really feel like a world anymore. I can understand if that sounds retarded but it's how it feels to me personally.
>>693003974When harbinger was defeated it altered zacks last stand so he survived.All other (confirmed) world creations that happened were the results of different zack decisions.
>>693004069It's not an excuse. I am not telling you to like it, just explaining to you why it's not a radically different world (outside of you know, tifa, barret and nanaki being dead and zack alive with aerith and cloud unconsciouss)
>>693004087Which was 2 months before the battle.
>>693004183Yea and defeating the manifestation of fate itself is a big enough deal for that to be a moot factor
>>693004254Because Zack obtained the gift of the goddess by defeating Genesis?
>>693004254Ah yes, and Avalanche decided to attack Shinra tower 2 months earlier too, because Aerith was kidnapped 2 months earlier too.
>>693004087Okay so these leads into several questions that neither you nor the actual game is going to answer. How far back does this broken fate go? Because there's a lot of important people that probably wanted to live. Like say, and I'm just using as an example, fucking Ifalna? The last full blooded Cetra? Those guys who can use White Materia aka the Planet's greatest defense system? From just minor enemies like Jenova? For that matter if killing the harbinger can break reality then why not make a world where Jenova never crash lands on the planet? Or the Gi? Why would Sephiroth even allow the party to fight harbinger? Using Black Materia no longer matters because there's now a bazillion worlds. If Sephiroth succeeds in one world then how does that affect the others? You see how this creates more problems than it solves?
>>693004563It's a fictional story, plenty of them don't make sense if you go into details.Zack is a popular guy and they wanted him in the remake project so it altered his fate. I don't think some profound thought went into it
>>693004705Or it's easier to just believe it's all lifestream nonsense. Or that he acquired the gift of the goddess.
>>692952963>the cool guy is the rational one, and the ugly guy is a strawman!!!!every time
>>693003859Well if sephiroth says it, it must be true
>>693004705>Zack is a popular guy and they wanted him in the remake project so it altered his fate.There's the problem. Out of universe popularity has started affecting in universe events. I don't think this is controversial to say but art shouldn't be democracy. Setting up things in your story and then changing it a bunch of fans decided shipping was more important is a bullshit way to build your world.
>>693004520Could be. Unlike in OG when it's confrimed zack died, Shinra still thinks he is alive. I don't know how it impacted the story and we don't know how tifa barret aerith and nanaki were captured>>693004868If you want to sure. I don't think it makes sense since there are people who are alive in 'main' beagle world in terrier as well. And people seem to be ignoring cloud saw midgar surrounded by whispers and the white explosion after destiny was defeated.
>>693004971Except Aerith also speaks in the Lifestream section too. And she never refutes the many worlds claim, only Sephiroth's idea that what he's doing is helping the planet.
>>693005008not cloud, I meant zack saw midgar*
>>693003974Nojima already implied time isnt linear in these worlds
>>693005008Zack was alive 2 months ago, which was why they sent an army to kill him. And the whispers would have prevented Aerith to be kidnapped 2 months ago which makes Avalanche attacking Shinra tower impossible to happen at the time.
>>693003113I said its gone and that's final. Don't you dare question me.If you disagree, you're a fanboy who will accept anything!!
>>693005154It has to be linear since Zack and Cloud both fought Sephiroth Reborn at the same time. The only explanation left is that Zack and Cloud were 2 months late to Midgar in terrierverse and somehow the whispers allowed that.
>>693003697Is this the final clerith cope? Nothing in Remake is real because the company is now called Square Enix?
>>693000796Still wondering where is the guy that always ask: "What the Lifestream do".
>>693001131Because Crisis Core exists. In the OG she didn't wrote anything to him. And get slapped by Tseng, the one who would touch her in Remake.
>>693005956That's what I said, they changed it in CC and Remake. And obviously in AC too.
>>693006104meanwhile novel that came after CC:
>>693006173Why didn't she cure Cloud's geostigma before the movie starts?
>>692947246That was always the plan
>>693001524Are this point, are the devs aware of the story of FF7 or they just continue to forge bullshit just to troll the audience?
>>693006282They are nowhere near the ancient capital in terrierverse.
>>693003289You need to get into theorycrafting youtube. Stop caring about the story being "good" or "bad" and watch people talk about the lore for a few hours.Soon you won't actually care what is happening in the plot anymore and all that matters is what it adds to the lore.For example Zack showing up in Rebirth is not good for the story, but it IS good for the lore and the theories.Once you're a fan of FF7 theorycrafting literally everything that happens in the story, no matter what, is good - because it expands the lore. You can apply this to all the FF games and suddenly "bad writing" or "plotholes" simply disappear.
>>693006235Why did Nojima call Cloud Aerith's lover?
>>693005565>”dont think of them as parallel worlds”>do it anywayYou’re just making this complicated for yourself for no reason
>>693006381Why did Nojima write AC, CC and this? Is this not omni Aerith?
>>693006173>meanwhile novel that came after remake
>>693006547Aerith calls cloud her lover anon. You can keep misinterpreting scenes and story however you want but that is simply a fact
>>692947246After seeing so many threads and discussion about the whole FF7 trilogy story and stuff, i have to say that the whole "multiverse/time travel/alternate timelines" stuff was a mistake, but not because of this stuff itself, but because it muddies any possible discussion about it since fans are so, so connected to the original that they take anything that FF7 remake/rebirth does as time travel or multiverse stuff, when it reality (specially after rebirth) it isnt like this at all. Theres a lot of evidence IN the game and devs quotes that this isnt a multiverse, its all about lifestream, and life and death still plays a role. But apparently fans genuinely dont care and they have already made their decision in remake. This is not a story about bringing back zack and aerith from the death, but denial and not being able to let go of the past, after all these years.Maybe its devs fault for thinking that what they wanted to present or their ideas were gonna matter, when in reality fans just wanted to see the original ff7 and thats it. They dont care about expanding the original, they dont care about seeing ff7 from a new angle, none of that. It was just replaying ff7 again.Its soul crushing, really. You have beautiful moments like Aerith talking about how our past doesnt defines us and how we need to let go of it, you have beautiful moments like aerith using these dreams worlds to have one last date with cloud and say goodbye, and moments like cloud denial over aerith death connecting with his denial over zack death, that ALSO connects with the themes of FF7 on what is real and what is fake, but people genuinely dont care because they still think FF7 remake is a sequel and that sephiroth traveled back in time as if this was just chrono trigger."the human element is removed" my fucking ass.
>>693002185More than SE that continue to give hints about how the romance is in FF7...
>>693006721Should she have confessed then in Rebirth?
>>692997847Hell yeaTidus cloud next
>>693006789If they just wanted to change the story so radicallly why not just make a new game, with a new story and new characters instead of butcher a classic to appeal to people who aren't even fans of the original?
>>693006721Explain this >>693006613
>>693002604The best solution.
>>693001740>Actual verifiable quote on camera from director vs translated crap from the guardian i’ll take the one i can confirm myself
>>693006886>If they just wanted to change the story so radicalllyThey havent. Its built upon the original and reintroduced FF7 themes and story, thats it.
>>693006827No save that for part3 obviously>>693006898Explain what? I never contested Tifa loving cloud but some poeple seem to have a big problem with Aerith loving him
this multiverse dog shit is too redditcore for me.
>>693002772I hate that Sephiroth is so much famous, when he is just the Cloud-buttpirate with a nice background music set.
>>693006978Isn't omni Aerith dead? She was killed by dream Sephiroth
>>693007186no it's impossible for omni aerith to die in lifestream
>>693006978Aerith only thinks she loves Cloud because of Zack's personality being embedded in Cloud
>>693002772He's definitely less scary as a yandere than he was when he was basically a mass shooter that snapped.
>>693007287So why did she push Cloud away in the dream? She cannot be killed. Why can't she just call Cloud again? And where was her during the final fight?
>>693006789ThisIt's not multiverse or time travel or alternate dimensions because they don't use those words. They say lifestream. But people are still really unfair to the devs and complain anyway even though it's lifestream, not any of those other things.There is no valid criticism of the new story, aside from maybe the Dyne scene being a little too over the top. But fans complain anyway because it's not the exact same as the original. It's very sad.
>>693006381Nojima wrote a lot of shit. You think his senile mind can keep track of all of them?
>>693007331Anon she calls him her lover as omni aerith in lifestream. Even ultimania said she liked him for himself. Your headcanon is pure cope>>693007442Because she wanted to give him the white materia that sephiroth was likely after
>>693007639Okay so should we just ignore all of them?
>>693006789But who was ore Sephiroth?
>>693007640He didn't really get the materia since the forest sequence is also another dream
>>693007505>It's not multiverse or time travel or alternate dimensions because they don't use those words. They say lifestreamNope, i say its not a multiverse or time travel because its not a multiverse or time travel. Simple as. You cant just being so reductionist. >But people are still really unfair to the devs and complain anyway even though it's lifestream, not any of those other things.> But fans complain anyway because it's not the exact same as the original. It's very sad.Its not that fans are at fault, either. I think its valid that you just wanted to replay FFVII and thats it.This was just nobody's fault, just a disconnection between the devs and the fanbase. Maybe the devs could be at fault because they didnt realize that the fans just genuinely dont care what they have to say.This is not an atlus situation where atlus just creates games and the fans welcome it with their open arms.
>>693007770I dunno, when did Cloud and Aerith start dating?
>>693007897>you just wanted to replay FFVIIWhat's your opinion of the players who are fine with them doing a new story, but dislike the new story?
>>693008074>What's your opinion of the players who are fine with them doing a new story, but dislike the new storyHow would that work with FF7? how do you make a new story that you actually would like?
>>693007968Literally after Cloud crashed through the church roof.
Even sephiroth acknowledged he has it man, I know who you are and this is your most retarded hill to die on
>>693008146Why are you saying it like it's impossible? That's what happened to you with Remake, isn't it?
>>693008150Nice. That means if I choose Tifa for the golden saucer date it's NTR right?
>>693008273>Why are you saying it like it's impossible?I never said it was impossible, but FF7 remake really isnt a "new story", its more a remake of the original story. Thats it.As for a new story, i dont even know where to begin. It would have to be like lufia 2 remake, where they genuinely change a lot of shit.
>>693008397Okay fine, what is your opinion of the players who are fine with the devs doing a remake of the original story but didn't like the way they went about it
>>693008582...i guess thats their opinion and it is fine?
>>693003203>Well, now we know he's a demi-god with time travel powers.? Sephiroth is no different than he always was, a type of spirit haunting the planet.
>>693008946But that would mean not everyone who criticizes Remake's story is a purist who is upset they didn't get the exact same story as FF7 told the exact same way again
>>693003234>The FF7 novel literally confirms that Cloud and Tifa loved each other as teens in Nibelheim.You are straight up lying, the novel says the same thing the og always said, cloud had a crush on her but they were never that close. He watched her from far away and that's it.
>>693001251Funniest meme born from Rebirth threads.
>>693009126I never said that was the case. I was always talking about the average.Look at this thread, look at twitter, reddit, etc. The ones who whine about it, the majority of them, always lead to "they should have just remastered the game", either by claiming it should have been turn based, the story, or even the graphics.
>>692947246>You needn't promise that you'll wait. For i know that iw will find you here.Hamaguchi is /ourguy/
>>693009342And you were doing so well
>>692997982cute
>>693008287Who cares what happens when you choose the non canon option
>>693009342>. The ones who whine about it, the majority of them, always lead to "they should have just remastered the game",Are you in a parallel world. Must suck to live in this version of events where rebirth is acclaimed and the only place you can pull off this type of shit is here because everywhere else people will call you insane.
>>693009418I mean, if you believe this>>693009126then fine, you are one of those that actually has a working brain and not an NPC, but you have to agree that you are not the average, like at all.
>>693009576I said the "ones who whine", i wasnt talking about the entire discussion about these games.
I think remake story is different from OG guys
>>693009576Even the ones who disliked what remake could've implied with its ending ended up liking Rebirth. It's a nightmare for them.
>>693009181Read this and seethe retard! >>693006613
>>692966707Based, Cissnei was waitng for Zack taking care of his parents.
>>693009796Yeah she realized that she liked him in the last day when he promised to become a super hero, doesnt change the fact they knew nothing about each other.That's an entire plotpoint in Rebirth, about how Tifa knows nothing about Cloud.
>>693009342>they should have just remastered the gameOnly clotis say that because they are scared shitless of Aerith getting together with Cloud in part 3
>>693009707I liked Remake and Rebirth, I just don't believe everyone who criticizes the remake version of the story is automatically a purist. It's possible to have wanted something new and different but to also dislike what we got.
>>693009880>Yeah she realized that she liked him in the last day when he promised to become a super hero, doesnt change the fact they knew nothing about each other.>That's an entire plotpoint in Rebirth, about how Tifa knows nothing about Cloud.We have an entire chapter with Tifa going "you loved being left alone" and cloud going "no i did not" and what that illiterate bastard got from it is that they were friends and understood each other since childhood.
>>693009880It confirms that according to the writers themselves Tifa and Cloud are supposed to be loversAnd of course Aerith and Zack have been confirmed in dozens of media
>>693010026Straight up crafting headcanons lmao Point the line where it says the devs state that.Following this logic Cloud is Aerith's lover because the only book that actually calls 2 individuals lovers is lifestream white when it refers to them.
>>693009181They retconned in tales of two pasts. Cloud and Tifa were real childhood friends until the bridge incident.
How do grown men end up becoming shippers who engage in ship war nonsense?
>>693010152AutismAnd loneliness
>>693010117>Following this logic Cloud is Aerith's lover because the only book that actually calls 2 individuals lovers is lifestream white when it refers to them.They love to use Traces as their bible but ignore Lifestream White, i wonder why...
>>693010152>>693010184based ritual posts
>>693010117That means nothing, in Japanese there isn't a clear differentiation between love and like like in English. Just a bad translation.
>>693009936Thats fine. Those who liked the games often get lumped together with the "clotis" or "cleriths" or some dumb stupid morons that just likes anything ff7 related,Those who dislike the games for whatever reason will too get lumped together with the ones that just wanted turn based battle, or those that just wanted the original, etc.
>>693010148Even if they played together at some point it was so long ago and so minimal that it made Tifa forget everything about Cloud's personality and preferences, the only thing she knows of him when they were teenagers is "he is a loner" nothing else.
>>693010269https://www.romajidesu.com/dictionary/meaning-of-koibito.html
>>693010269No, it uses koibito, this is the most romantic word possible because it means lovers in a romantic sense. LOVE BIRDS
>>693010309And that she had a crush on him
>>693010269You dont even know that? lmaaaaaaaaaaaooooo
>>693010270I'm sorry about that. I'm sure there are fans out there who would be happy with whatever they got, but it would be unfair to lump you in with them or shippers or fujos.
>>693010152Everyone says autism and loneliness because it's true. They don't offer any other answer.
>>693010429In a way traces tried to retcon some elements but still didnt change the overall idea that Tifa absolute misconceptions about how Cloud is and what he likes. At the end of the day the fact they played together with friends when they were 4-5 years old didnt change anything at all if at the point Cloud leaves his village she knows nothing about him.
>>693010368>>693010380>>693010449Then why is Aerith together with Zack in the lifestream in the CANON movie Advent Children?>nice samefag in that 3rd post btw
>>693010184>>693010537I guess it really is autism and loneliness. That's pretty sad.
>>693010580That movie uses visual elements to represent cloud's feelings you mongoloid, or do you think Aerith is inside a cellphone?Zack himself cant even keep his form inside the lifestream because he isnt a cetra.
>>693010584>>693010537I'm married and I ship clerith so I can destroy clotis, it's great tbqh
Aerithchads can't stop winning it seems
>>693010567And she still had a crush on him. And she told Aerith this and Yuffie overheard them on the ship.
>>692966071>tifa fans are generally stable peopleMaybe you should read the insane comments from Tifa fans under the Ever Crisis FF6 collab post https://x.com/FFVII_EC_EN/status/1850371854814363958How stable is this? >>692974497If the FF7 devs didn't know how mentally ill and ungrateful western "cloti" fans are, they will know it now and stop caring about them
>>693010668The funniest part is how Lifestream White was writen AFTER CC and was re-released multiple times. And Aerith is still refered as Cloud's koibito there. The truth is that for any person who actually knows the canon material saw ZA being buried from far away, they never had a chance in a post FF7 story.They just did in the softest way possible by having Marlene tell the message.
>>693010765You're adding info that simply doesnt add anything to the topic, seems like you got locked, do better next time.
>>693010668>That movie uses visual elements to represent cloud's feelings you mongoloid, or do you think Aerith is inside a cellphone?>Zack himself cant even keep his form inside the lifestream because he isnt a cetra.Not even Sephiroth can, that's the reason why he's so weird in AC. He's like a devil there.
>>693010768Both fanboys are unstable, tifa fans are just more prone to harassment.But I don't get it. They were saying how good bahamut tifa looks and her summer outfit is better than aeriths, now that aerith got a subjectively better fit it's a problem?
>>693006824>clerithfag didn't play any other FFsLocke and Terra weren't a couple, idiot
>>693010859No Aerith refers to Cloud as her koibito. She also didn't talk to him for 2 years because it can't contradict AC.
>>693010931Which part of the novel you want screenshotted next?
>>693011050The book doesnt have Aerith as narrator, or do you think she says "Me, Aerith, have cloud as my koibito" as a character who keeps refering to herself?Did you ever read any book? from what i've seen you just have a folder of screenshots of many pages but have no idea of what to understand from them.
>>693011197>Did you ever read any book? from what i've seen you just have a folder of screenshots of many pages but have no idea of what to understand from them.>>693011118>Which part of the novel you want screenshotted next?LMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOO
>>693010668That's why remake is trying to retcon and explain why Zack could exist in AC.
>>693011197aerithbros got to cocky...
>>693010152Autism and loneliness it seems. I wish they could talk about the gameplay like they do about their retarded dead hooker lore.
>>693011197And when again did Aerith protect Cloud? She wasn't there when Cloud was fighting Sephiroth.
>>693011197You are coping so hard now I'm actually worried for your mental state. Are you saying that Nojima doesn't really know what Aerith thinks so we can't take Nojima's sentences at face value? Aerith isn't real, she doesn't actually have independent thoughts.
>>693011356This doesnt work, the book refers to what aerith thinks and what she does, even sephiroth. The book doesnt say "aerith loves Cloud". It says, "they were lovers". I know this screenshot because it's a cope one that clotis used because they know how serious that is for them.
>>693011453I know I'm just having fun
>>693011405>And when again did Aerith protect Cloud? She wasn't there when Cloud was fighting Sephiroth.???????????????????She saved the planet lol
>>693002964>the whole point of the story is how Cloud and Tifa also were never really closemeanwhile Cloud feels so bad about Tifa getting hurt and falling into a coma that he decides to become a SOLDIER in order to be worthy of her attention
>>693011450>You are coping so hard now I'm actually worried for your mental state. Are you saying that Nojima doesn't really know what Aerith thinks so we can't take Nojima's sentences at face value? Aerith isn't real, she doesn't actually have independent thoughts.Are you an ESL? Because that's not what i said at all, breathe, read the post again and come back here.
>>693011032Nta, but if you don't see all the hints now, that in the end of the Remake trilogy, they will give Cloud a happy ending together with Aerith as a romantic couple, then it will hit you as a truck in 3 years.
They used the term koibito for Tifa as well...
>>693011450>Aerith isn't realLooks like you touched a nerve lmao
>>693010859>The funniest part is how Lifestream White was writen AFTER CC and was re-released multiple times. And Aerith is still refered as Cloud's koibito there. The truth is that for any person who actually knows the canon material saw ZA being buried from far away, they never had a chance in a post FF7 story.I think that's the best detail, Nojima never had plans to make Zerith endgame post CC. They were a thing there, but then he wrote a book where Aerith states how much she loves the other guy and how they are a couple.
>>693011450>You are coping so hard now I'm actually worried for your mental state. Are you saying that Nojima doesn't really know what Aerith thinks so we can't take Nojima's sentences at face value? Aerith isn't real, she doesn't actually have independent thoughts.But what he said is how the narrator is Nojima in the book, and that's why there is nothing as a POV statement, when he uses Koibito he's describing the characters' relationship, not what Aerith thinks of Cloud. I really think the anon who asked if you ever read any book has a point right now.
>>692947246Depressed mailman no more
You know that you can love both girls since they are great, right?
Koibito means girlfriend or boyfriend. Not the feeling of loving another person.
>>692947246Nomura is pushing his luck
>>693011984Means couple, as lovebirds. It's the most romantic word possible because there is no open interpretation. Any other japanese word like AI(love) can be used as family or friends. But koibito cannot. If you use koibito with your family you're in some alabama shit.
>>693011710>Aerith states how much she loves the other guyAerith doesn't state it, Nojima does.
>>693011927yes
>>693012083Isnt this even worse? If the author is calling 2 characters a couple that's even worse to deny it. Because if you coped by saying it's just aerith you would even state that's it's one sided. But you cant say that if it's fucking Nojima writing it.
>>693012183I think he became a CA after this thread.
>>693002989>Tifa shutting up Cloud knows things he shouldn't if he wasn't there, how is she going to tell him he's wrong when everything but him being there is right>Ending ambiguos Then Compilation becomes a thing and it becomes clear what happens several years after the original game>Jenova or sephiroth in controldoesn't really change how the game flows, either Jenova is simply doing what it does or Sephiroth was corrupted by its influence>How in the actual fuck does cloud-zack even workwas only an issue before the international release cleared up what exactly happened between the Nibelheim Incident and the beginning of FF7
>>693012013>your average cloti fan
>>693012079Yeah it's a noun like kareshi or kanojo. But Cloud and Aerith objectively were not dating before she died. And she is dead now even if they did. My argument is that it was worded wrongly, it should Cloud is the person she loved, and that Cloud was her lover.
Okay guys what is the next EC collab?VI is kinda out of nowhere no? IX at least was in line with the remake rumorsWhat if VI remake at TGA??
>>693012079>Means couple, as lovebirds. It's the most romantic word possible because there is no open interpretation. Any other japanese word like AI(love) can be used as family or friends. But koibito cannot.>If you use koibito with your family you're in some alabama shit.That's why when sephiroth says that jenova can become those you love (AI) it can be many people, from romantic love to familial love. It works in many ways, but it doesnt if it's koibito because it would need to be your romantic partner.
>>693012386Zero chance
>>693011710
>>693012358I think it works because the truth is that if you're playing rebirth in an aerith route they are clearly dating and can be considered romantic partners. The ultimania itself even says how aerith confesses her feelings in the gondola.
>>693012342I swear the meltdown over this collab is a glorious saltmine.Heck I wanted Celes too, since I love celes, but sabin is a badass
>>693012386They just want to make at least one FF collab every year, i think. No reason needed
>>693012512The truth is that they wanted Celes for pure shipping reasons. But Sabin is cool too. They are just mad because it's just like the ff9 event again.
>>693012386ACand DoC now that they have Vincent.
so is this shipper faggot going to live stream she/theys suicide when troonrith remains dead or not?
You are JRPG MCswordGuy sleeping cozy in your small village house when suddenly this tomboy wakes up and calls you an sleepyheadwdyd
>>693012607RIP Hama
>>693012539Collabs are the place where people will spend the most money so they cant do it constantly. Maybe 3 at most per year. One of them being ff makes sense.
>>693012476Do you really think that works in your favour? Lmao
>>693012607So salty...
>>693012512Tifa has a kamehameha move, and her weapon are usually very strong. The EC Tifa players will like SabinxTifa and thank the devs,but the clotis are insane they care only about if she gets the costume of a main heroine
>>693012607He/them will just cope and seethe with obscure GameFAQs posts or some shit. There is no help for he/they.
>>693012607Why is it always the trannies who latch on to Aerith? Is it the man jaw?
>>693012506They objectively did not date. They were on dates, but not going out/dating. And again, person I like != koibito. It's just the wrong noun used.
>>693010859>The funniest part is how Lifestream White was writen AFTER CC and was re-released multiple times. And Aerith is still refered as Cloud's koibito there. The truth is that for any person who actually knows the canon material saw ZA being buried from far away, they never had a chance in a post FF7 story.>They just did in the softest way possible by having Marlene tell the message.It's also for them not to have that weird situation where cloud or aerith would need to explain things to Zack. Now he already knows and he will know in the next game from the get go.
>>693012607>>693012796>>693012869Samefag
>>693012730Because there's more liking than just liking and liking?
Idc about shipper faggotry buy watching the meltdown over the canonical Tifa kiss is the only positive thing about including romance in these games.
>>693012932shut upshe he them they xir xem sir fem
>>693012932He got angry and went to the usual "you're a tranny" like every schizo goes into when they get pressed.
>>693012880Nojima literally used koibito you fucking retard>going on dates is not datingBraindead
>>693012621i wish she was blonde for this collab. She is cosplaying a blonde character.
>>693012910Terrier Zack died. The only living Zack is corgi Zack. Also terrier/corgi Aerith had never met Cloud.
>>693012607She/theym got triggered by this post, BIGLY. Look at her/that melty.
>>693013017Like, i didnt even reply to that one because...some people need to put aside personal opinions and see things from an objective viewpoint. How the fuck is going into dates not dating and being a type of couple? lol
>>693012932You should try calling me Jimbo or Barry next, troon-kun.YWNBAW.
>>693013017They used koibito for Tifa too
>>693012950Yea there is liking and there is... koibito liking
>>693013136When? i'm asking this one because i know it was never, ever used for Tifa.
