New hit piece against Final Fantasy 14 just droppedhttps://www.pcgamer.com/games/final-fantasy/final-fantasy-14s-next-big-challenge-making-players-feel-like-theyre-getting-their-monthly-subs-worth-not-just-funding-squares-flops-while-wow-stacks-value/
>He thinks he can have a XIV thread on /v/
>>692996395If XIV players weren't such toxic posters they can.
I only play ff14 the month before and after an expansion launch the way god intended.
>>692996225Everything that guy wrote is correct.It's fucking stupid to not have anything the majority of the players can get into until a year after expansion launch.
>>692997408I started doing that during endwalker. Beat the game, waited for the next patch, re-subed, it was shit. Then only went back during the free-login campaigns and even with 4 free days it took half a day to do all the new content, then you had to run weekly savages or do nothing that had actual value for character progression. I think they went to hard went appealing to glamourfags because outside of savages or relic weapons everything is just gear for glams
>>692996225>pcgamer
>>692996225Yoshi says you just don't understand Wuk Lamat, that she's actuallly a "great and complicated" character, and he plans to force her even MORE going forward:https://checkpointgaming.net/features/2024/10/chatting-with-the-iconic-naoki-yoshida-on-the-design-and-reception-of-dawntrail/>"The other factor was Wuk Lamat. She’s a very complex character, and she even has a bit of a complex about herself. Unfortunately, we didn’t delve very far into the background of why she had those feelings, so it appeared as if she left a negative impression. We accept that feedback. I feel a little sorry that we weren’t able to properly depict her. We may have been able to make her more straightforward, so we’re pushing her in the forefront as this character. But again, we’re going to be reflecting that learning into [content patch 7.1] and onward, we’re hoping that we can show more of what makes Wuk Lamat so great, and I’m hoping that we can regain from there."It's actually fucking over unironically
>>692996225>Barry now works for PCgamer
>>692996225>WoW stacks value>i liked dawntrailthis is bait, also use an archive link don't link to the kikes you dumb fucking nigger
>>692996225>while WoW stacks value>$90 FOMO mountvalue for Microsoft shareholders maybe
>>693000173>>693000648>>693000713Where is the lie in what he said? Can you even attempt to refute it? No, you won't because you can't, so instead you simply attack the source of the article and pretend like you have an argument.
>>693001009WoW and FF14 is slop for trannies, there's my perfectly formed argument.
>>693001009I don't give a fuck about your MMO war, I just can't stand Politically Correct Gamer.
>>693000576I ALREADY can't bring myself to finish Dawntrail, if the fucking patches are more Wukslop I may as well be done. My sub that I've had running since Heavensward expired for the first time in October and I genuinely don't know how to deal with wukslop once the next expansion comes out. Maybe if Square offers a limited-time free Dawntrail story skip.
Why have these threads been deleted nearly on sight for the past month?
Here's your new and improved Prishe, ff11 sisters
Yeah I can't argue with any of that. Like I enjoyed the MSQ even but fuck me if I barely log in nowadays.>>692999787>I think they went to hard went appealing to glamourfags because outside of savages or relic weapons everything is just gear for glamsI feel like the problem is that even the relic and savage weapons and gear aren't really that valuable besides for glams. You go through savage or to the trouble of getting your relic, and what do you get? Slightly higher numbers that you can't really use for anything besides the content you've already done.Every weapon and piece of armour is a stat sheet and the only difference is that the numbers are slightly bigger and they look different. No horizontal progression, no sidegrades, no interesting abilities, because all the content is built around jobs playing exactly the same once they hit cap.
>>693001369god it suckswhen did they run into this
>>693001475because you faggots and wowfaggots belong on /vg/
>>693001693this this this
>>692996225>Foxxo aka Vulperafag is the tranny PCGaymer JournoIT ALL MAKES SENSE, ONLY A COCKSUCKER JOURNALIST WOULD DICKSUCK BLIZZARD SO HARD LIKE A PUERTO RICAN WHORE
>>693001752this this this this
>>693001790this this this this this
>>693001549I've seen it and I hate it and prishe would hate it too. She would look at this and think this is some wack ass looney tunes shit and then have whoever thought to put her in that to catch these hands.
>>692996225>WoW stacks valueI don't think a single person giving blizzard money expects it to be reinvested in good game development
>>692996225What was the point of the Island Sanctuary, Criterion Dungeon and Eureka Orthos?
>>692999787Dawntrail was so shit that even glamourers are starving. Everything is a recolor of old gear, the first crafted set is just a recolor of last expansions crafted set and even the dungeon gear outside of like 2 of them is recolors as well. You didn't even get a single piece not one single piece of glam gear from the msq.
>>693001456>if the fucking patches are more Wukslop>IF
>Takes all your profits to make 3 AAA flops as well as several smaller scale flops in a row (forspoken, ff16, ff7r2)I mean, he's not wrong
>>693001549HOW DID THEY FUCK THIS UP?!!
>>693001790All makes sense now
>>693002062Island Sanctuary was ultimately a failed experiment. Spreadsheet farming sim where a discord bot can do the calculations and tell you what to build for max profit.Variants were ok casual content, but letting you solo it from the get go means there was immediately no community interaction. Meanwhile, the Criterion version was too hard for anyone not already well established in the savage raiding scene and then there wasn't much reward for doing it.Eureka Ortho is objectively the worst deep dungeon, and even the hardcore deep dungeon streamers still mainly stick to PotD and HoH and only occasionally run EO.
>>692997351Somehow this is the faggiest webm I’ve seen on this board. Don’t know why.
>>692996225All MMOs are dogshit
>>692996225Uh oh. Did Wuk Lamat’s VA come out as a heckin’ chuddie Drumph voter? You’re supposed to be sticking up for beautiful, LGBTQ+ accepting games like FFXIV, PC Gamer!
wowschlop vs ff4.0 has to be one of the most pathetic things going on
>>692996225>WoW>stacks valueBWWWWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!! Do blizzdrones really think this???
>>693002743>Island Sanctuary was ultimately a failed experimentI don't understand, how the hell do you fuck up ANIMAL CROSSING? They were so busy making sure it would never be a substitute for their stupid housing system that they forgot why people like that content in the first place.
>>692996225>tfw i knew this expansion was going to be a pile of shit the second its trailer dropped
>>693000576Why are they trying to force Wuk so hard?
>>693002941Because the whole thing is running on FF14's absolutely dogshit engine that can't walk and chew gum at the same time.
>>692996225I mean... the director himself said so, why is that worth an article?
>>693002941That's the problem, they didn't go for Animal Crossing. They didn't intend to either, it was the playerbase that built up the idea that it would be that after it was announced and previewed.
>>692996225I want easier content Extreme Content is not fucking easy contentPoopsocking World First Ultimate sweatlords should shut up and be silent
>make legitimate ffxiv thread>gets pruned within minutes>thread criticizing it stays uptypical
>>693003108>while WoW stacks value
>>693000576That reads like parody lmao
>>693003138They who is that content for? It's almost universally hated content.
>>693000576Why are they so fixated on Wuk and don't do anything with Krile, Y'shtola or Alisaie??
>>692998141This. At least half the content that was advertised for this expansion still isn't out, yet the devs receive absolutely no pushback from their cult like fanbase. Still waiting on Beast Master which will likely end up being yet another half-measure.>>693000576I despise this dev team a little more every day. But they're silly and whacky so nobody calls them out in any meaningful fashion. They're high off their own farts it's unreal.
>>693002149raid glams look like shit too, if you don't care about ilvl/ultimate or stack-spread slop there's no incentive to raid.
>>692996225Well I haven't come back for dawntrail since I heard it's shit so yeah XIV is dead.
>>693000576Can't believe Yoshi would let Chris Metzen win like this.
>>692998141the majority of the playerbase are trannies who get gender euphoria from logging in to their cat girllimsa is their content and its always availableyour mistake was thinking there was ever more to the """game""" than that
>>693003168>Extreme Content is not fucking easy contentEX1 and EX2 are easy though.
>>693002743Thanks for the actual reply.
>>692996225>WoW stacks valueFucking what lmao
>>692996225They should never have added Au Ra women.
>>693003308I don't know. I did it to get the rewards I wanted and then never went back. I assume that's how everyone else is with it. I haven't gone back to it in many months now and forget it exists until someone reminds me.
>>693002743Island Sanctuary should've been a multiplayer instance. When I last played a year ago people were still doing Ishgard Fetes and spawning the Morbol boss in Eureka Pagos. Playing with other players makes grindy content fun.
>>692996225i was with him until the last 4 words
>>693003854No, other players make it hard to do content years later.
>>693000576Guess who there was from square and who were the US interviewers.
>>693003308I don’t have a real answer, just a thought, but I think parts of it is a culture clash. Western games are usually much more free-form than Japanese contemporaries in the same genre, so Japanese players may prefer systems that are more “go into this and so this thing to get the reward”, as compared to a western player who might have a more sandboxy mindset to MMOs/RPGs in general, and as such when we get spreadsheet shit it just feels like busywork and not a fun activity.
>>693003932It should be scalable.
>>693002335NOT AGAIN AIEEE
>>693000576I'm ready for more Wuk memes with 7.1, players already raw about her will be enraged.
>>693003854They are so terribly afraid of having parts of the game that are unplayable solo that they forget to make the game an MMO
Endwalker is unironically the end. While there might have been some problems with the narrative and some very stupid writing it overall stuck to landing, after that, starting with those loathsome patches, it all fell off a fucking cliff. I honestly feel bad for the loyal fans who stuck around for a decade only to have the world they loved, that was built very carefully over the years, have the rug pulled out from beneath them, and now the game is actively pissing in their face. It's astonishing how ALL the goodwill that Endwalker generated has evaporated since then.
>>693004057Yeah a magic fairy should make everything perfect, that'd be nice. How about you figure out how to make content work singleplayer and multiplayer in a realistic way instead?
When will you accept this is just XIV's Cataclysm? It's all downhill from here.
>>693004137Works fine in WoW :)
>>692996225nice shitpost, Harvey
>>693004203>WoW player says something retardedWell that explains it.
>>693003168>>692996225It needs more side-content for combat that isn't always just "do a coordinated dance session with dumb assholes"
>>693004091I just find it amusing to see XIV going the way of WoW. Square still has a long way to go until they're as bad as Blizzard but with the absolute horse shit they're releasing recently, they're basically going the way of Blizzard as a whole too.
>>693000576WUK WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES
>>693000576No yoshipee I am not going to love your oc waifu
>>693004248It’s funny how easy you are to agitate
cute retard
>>693004351How does your weapon glow when sheathed?
>>692996225check his older articles, this guy is a blizzslopeaterhe thinks if an MMO doesn't make you sub even during content lulls, it's badalso, he's protected on twitter and has pronouns on bio, so he must be a watermelon tranny
>>693003002Wuk Lamat is Yoshida's Lightning.
>>693004489>these are the people that make WoW threads on /v/grim
You did do a dumb OCD thing and got each suh-cyan-tea currency to 99 so it looks nice, right? Took me about 2 months to do this. I assume like 3 months at least if doing it all from zero.ARR ones aren't bad with the flying now. I think HW ones were the worse, because there's a bunch that are going back and forth, the moogle ones are the worst, but thankfully you get 9 a day.
>WoW>stacking valuejesus christ lmao
>>693004546At least Japan like Lightning, I don’t know who likes Wukkie besides western twitteroids (and Yoship)
>>693004607It gives me autism enough that ARR has an uneven amount of currencies.
you haven't done all cotnent if you dont have all Z weapons
>>693004607I never knew 99 was the cap.
>>693004703It's not the cap, I don't even know what it is, nobody has documented it. II just liked how 99 looks.
>>693004546lightning is nowhere near as insufferable as woke lemutt
>>693004757Oh I see, well you are right that 99s looks good.
>>693003987fuckin YIKESoof evenjust wow
>>693004785Oh cool
>>693000576I noticed no Hiroi. Did he get fired/demoted yet. Did Yoship beg Ishikawa to write the patches
>>693004901you can make a macro that does it. I think it's /bm/sit
>>693004694I like doing the Zetas more than the Anima weapons because it was a lot of variety. But man, world travel makes the fates part helluva lot better. And Sonar, but honestly that probably only shaved off like a few hours overall.
>>693003987>a bunch of ugly/fat fujo'sAt least they know their audience
>>693004489>This guy is a BlizzslopeaterThat headline seems more like a criticism of WoW and it's Player base
>>693005015Grinding for this relic killed me. How
>>693004996>take a shit>sit in itGood macro for MMOslop
>>693005120you'd think that way, but the guy has a lot of blizz oriented articleshe also praises xiv, cause the game attracts clicks, but you can see where his allegiances stand
>>693004897Denim is truly an amazing material.
>>693000576>She’s a very complex characterPEEEACE AND HAPPINEEEESSSYeah, no. Go fuck yourselves. That one-dimensional cunt remains the same from start to finish in the storyEven the least critical fans said the problem with Wuk was there was too much of her and their great idea is to shove more of her down our throats?
This sounds familiar...
>>693005446
>>693005728Is that Ion pic real or staged?
>>693005728If I found a genie in a bottle my first wish would be for the American government to firebomb every major population center in California
>>693000576outside of the wuk lamat defense shit I did like the rest of the interview
>>693005446I hate that XIV is made for people like that.
how did FFXIV go from beating WoW to struggling to stay relevant?
>>693005905something tells me you already know the answer you just want to start yet another shitflinging war
>>693005446I liked Graha Tia before the fujos got to him. One of my friends draws fetish art of him. Not the biggest fan of him anymore.
>>693003991do the japanese even like the content?
>>693006045I don’t know, I just sort of assumed they’re more keen on spreadsheet simulators with less freedom of expression than westerners are because it’s historically leas common in Japanese games.As I said though, just a thought I’ve had.
>>693005138I'm not even gonna lie, the best way to keep sanity is by cheating. The official Dalamud plugin "ZodiacBuddy" helps skip some clicking. For example, during the books part, clicking on the dungeon will open it up in the DF list. Or clicking a mob will teleport you to the nearest aetheryte and mark on your map.Then I mentioned using Sonar. First of all, what I'd do is mark every book related Fate with "Instance" in the Jurisdiction to help organize, and when it was time for the 3 fates, I'd flip it to "Data Center" and turn on Sound/Chat alert. If someone was running Sonar and they're in the zone it'll alert you if it's up, plus you can monitor which ones were recently done.Then when it comes to farming the Garuda EX and other fights, there's a thing you can use called "CombatReborn' to automate your actions. I used a paid bot to do the queueing too, maybe there's a way to do it for free.https://github.com/FFXIV-CombatReborn/
>>693003002Wuk is Yoshida's OC. > This time, it's about helping the race to the throne, so the protagonist is not the protagonist but rather an observer, so if it's not a story about helping an attractive character take the throne, players will think, "I don't care about this guy." I started by solidifying the structure of the character Ukramat, thinking about how to write him in an attractive way, and then, with the many voices calling for the implementation of a female Hrothgar, I decided to keep my promise.https://www.inside-games.jp/article/2024/01/08/151455.html
>>693005905Closing the Ascian story for good with Endwalker was the game's doom. Any losers like me who mainly enjoyed the story and setting were left with nothing but uninspired garbage from 6.1 onward.
>>693006292She’s his waifu too
>>693005905Square Enix's inability to capitalize on the Shadowlands disaster for World of Warcraft, while letting Yoshi-P work on XVI instead of properly over-seeing the post launch stuff of Endwalker and Dawntrail's production.They had all the shit they needed to solidify their claim as the King of MMOs in the Western Market at least.World of Warcraft having it's 2nd expansion with a massive content drought.Blizzard staff walking out do to rape drama, refusing to make content.Covid's vidya game boom still going strong at the time.Shadowbringers word of mouth and people telling them to experience the end of the best MMO story offered with Endwalker soon coming out.They just fumbled it and once the most popular World of Warcraft streamers stopped playing the game and switched to just doing variety, or went back to Classic cause Square was no longer paying them to stream it. Interest fell off hard.
>>692996225You call it a hit piece, I call it a shifting public sentiment. A lot of my long-time player friends are just raidlogging at this point, there isn't much to keep them playing besides whatever they're currently progging. We're all looking forward to chaotic raids and the new field operation, but until then there isn't much going on right now. In my opinion, they should stop creating so many fucking cash shop mounts for 5 minutes and add some for things you can grind out. Achievement points are severely underutilized for example; adding some cool mount for high achievement point thresholds like 25,000 or higher would incentivize people to go to whatever random achievements they never would've bothered with before.
>>692996225>while-wow-stacks-value/
>>693003196yep nothing new
We all know what needs to happen, right?
>>693006578It should land directly on Wuk
>>692996225>while WoW stacks valueunironically what in the actual fuck did he mean by this?
>>693006578Agreed, it is the only way to repair the game. Yoshida doesn't have the balls to do it.
>>693000576>The other factor was Wuk Lamat>it appeared as if she left a negative impression>so we’re pushing her in the forefront
>>693000576They really can't make anything that they didn't sign off 3 years ago, can they?
>>693006642Probably to do with the fact one wow sub lets you play 4 different versions of World of Warcraft.
>>693006680Tural is actually a fucking problem. The continent is pretty awful.
Why do MMO players pay money monthly to have a job that's a waste of time
Yoshida’s extreme aversion towards implementing new evergreen systems/content, and instead just insisting on creating lukewarm minigames every expansion with hardly any iteration is starting to make the game feel more and more like a live-service mobile thingy and less like an adventure game you’d want to lose yourself in for a long time.
>>693006759You don’t like wholesome and pure it is?
>>693006759I just wish we had more quests about internal strife in Tural. What we did have got resolved so cleanly.
>>693003987I remember during the first fanfest where yoshi hadn't been to america yet and called the ninja in the cosplay contest a fatass
>>693006292>so if it's not a story about helping an attractive character take the throne, players will think, "I don't care about this guy."He predicted that and he still went for it.
i dont get why they dont just put XIV and XI on the same sub. or atleast give it as an option for like 3€ more or something
>>693006825It feels lifeless and absolutely boring. Peaceful can be cool if we get to adventure. Solution 9 is also an atrocity.
The entire premise of this MMO war is retardation distilled down to its purest formMost people still playing WoW, no matter how bad the game gets, will not stop playing WoW. If the game hit end of service tomorrow then they'd probably stick a gun barrel in their mouths.The number of people still playing WoW but are willing to jump to a different MMO is infinitesimal. Probably less than a thousand. Anyone who could leave has already left.And XIV players aren't going to jump ship to WoW either. Not only is WoW the most new player unfriendly game in fucking existence, they just aren't the same game. XIV tries to contain the grinding to shit like Eureka, relic weapons, and so forth whereas the the foundation of WoW IS the grind. XIV is also far, far lighter on daily/weekly/monthly lockouts. So anyone going to WoW thinking it will be XIV but western fantasy is in for a rude fucking awakening.
>>693000576I'm surprised no one copied this one>One additional thing, there were comments about how we are too accepting of diversity — some people seem to be disapproving of that. I’m afraid one of our staff members received very negative comments and it almost felt like a personal attack, which breaks my heart, because she worked really hard and these criticisms were not constructive at all. [Editor’s note: Yoshida is referring to the transphobic verbal abuse and death threats that Wuk Lamat’s voice actress, who is a trans woman, has reportedly received from some FFXIV users.] It doesn’t do anything except make the staff lose motivation, and in the end that could potentially damage the quality of our game and take away from what makes this game so interesting. So if there are any sort of criticisms, bring it to me, because I’m the one approving this material. I wanted to reiterate that, please refrain from personal attacks against our staff.
>>693006938The only thing I can think of that would be logically consistent with his statement there is that Yoshida is a Furry otherwise how the fuck can you say Wuk Lamat is an attractive character.
>>693006015graha is the normy trap characterit's the xiv rorschach test of wowbuckity
>>693007038Attractive as in appealing I think.
>>693007187She ain't either. Her lack of personality makes Lyse seem like an interesting character.
>>693003002The unironically planned for her to the be the next main character (replacing us) for the next 10 year story arc. They probably had tons of merchandise (like figures, artwork, tshirts, etc.) of Wuk Lamat already made, they may have even planned spinoff stories and games revolving around her (anime, books, etc.). Basically the same kind of multi-media shit they did with FF15, just immediately assuming this would already be a super-popular character and had tons of merch and spin off media to sell and make money off of her and they need to justify that investment by continuing to push her and try to redeem her character.
>>693007152do you even read the things you write or do you just vomit out a stream of words then press post
>>693007228You are an actual mongoloid if you think this.Wuk isn’t Pikachu.
>>693006292>Wuk was originally meant to be an attractive male Hroth (Yoshi's own words)>Decided to retroactively make her female because of fans wanting female hrothsYeah I think Yoshi is a gay furry.
>>693007228How did they believe this furry shit would be THAT popular
>>693007228
Seems accurate to me. Didn't feel I was getting my subs worth during EW so I stopped playing and felt the same right after DTs shit story..
>>693007325Male hrothgar are disgusting I don’t know if that would be worse than Wukkie
>>693007187You might be right, but all the same he still failed as Japs hate her, Chinese hate her and she's almost universally hated in the West only ideological weirdos who think they must defend the honour of the American VA pretend to like her.
>>693007330Furries can be extremely popular.
>>693001009>Where is the lie in what he said?The lie is him not admitting to fapping to troon /gif/s
>>693007413Yeah I was just thinking of the semantics.
>>693007413Did DT launch in Korea yet. I bet they also hate her. Man Yoship is really killing 14 for his waifu
>>693004996it's super easy with controller so you don't need a macro if u use controller on pc
>>693007584No, it starts for them in beginning of December.
>>692999787They appeal to glamtrannies when those people just mod their games to look like second life anyway kek
>Have female Hroth character from Pseudo-mesoamerica and jungle inspired continent. >Could've leaned into her being a literal Tiger Mom personality.>Make her a Genki GirlJaps have no vision
>>693007584do the chinese hate her as well?
>>693007752Korean men are insane, they are going to kill him.>>693007843Yes
>>693007843Yeah there was a player poll over there and they voted Wuk Lamat the most hated character of Dawntrail with over 7k+ votes next character was Sphene with 1k+votes which when you think the Chinese only got Dawntrail a couple of weeks ago shows how much they really hate her.
Why does square hate content that lasts for more than a patch cycle? On the same note, does yoshit still believe that catering to people who can play for 30 minutes per day at most is the way to go?
>>693008003wtf I love bugmen now
>>693008007why waste time and resources on improving the game when people will stay subbed anyways?
>>693008076Here's proof.
It's fun to dunk on wow (especially after the recent $80 mount shit) too but compared to the lethargic XIV content cycle they're fucking swimming in content and they have an actual schedule and roadmap they stick to.Pound for pound a wow subscription gets you more game than an XIV sub if you've already completed the MSQ.
>>693008189I kneel to xi
>>693008189Can you post link so I can read the hate in auto translation?
Honestly I don't understand how they don't just bow their heads and accept they fucked up with Wuk Wuk Binks>voice actor did a terrible job, dropped the accent constantly, even the directors complained about him>people don't like him because he's a troon>people don't like him because they hired a white American from Kentucky for a character that was obviously Latina>people don't like Wuk's personality >people don't like how much the MSQ revolved almost completely around her after 400+ hours of story where the MC and their actions has been the driving force of it all>people don't like they took the spotlight away from Krile and her development>meanwhile, the supporting characters like her brothers, her father, and the two headed lizard due (Gulol Jaja? I forget his name) are all vastly more interesting
>>693008367I don't have the Bilibili link best I can give you is direct you to the ff14fan blog site they did a quick article on the subject.https://ff14net.2chblog.jp/archives/61880612.html
>>693008294Yeah, even ignoring the whole roadmap for retail wow. Their sub gives them multiple versions of the game to play. So even during downtime on your preferred main game, be it classic, SoD, Cata Classic or retail. You can just load up the other client and kill time doing content there while waiting for new content on your main game.
>>693008404>voice actor did a terrible job, dropped the accent constantly, even the directors complained about himOh did you not hear? Yoshida has doubled down and called us all bigots because we dared say the American VA for Wuk gave a bad performance. Pic related Yoshida's comment directed at the player base.
>>692996225Only trannies play MMOs in 2024.
why did they make the cat people look retarded instead of hot?
I just want to play 1.0 now that he hardware caught up with it.
>>693008637I unironically think Americans would have had the warmest reception if they just hired an early-20s latina woman with a nice voice. There's millions of them south of Texas, not hard to find one that can fit the bill.
>>693008637I mean he didnt defend her performance, he just said to relay critism to him instead...
>>692996225idk how this is a hitpiece. Endwalker was low quality patches over a longer period of time with less content. They need to prove that some of the financial success of the game is going back into it's development because EW didn't do that.
>>693008897She should have had Sombra’s VA, her voice is ultra hot.
>>693008984See >>693003108
>>693008897Blame Kate for hiring her “Latinx” friend
>>693007031>>One additional thing, there were comments about how we are too accepting of diversity — some people seem to be disapproving of that. I’m afraid one of our staff members received very negative comments and it almost felt like a personal attack, which breaks my heart, because she worked really hard and these criticisms were not constructive at all. [Editor’s note: Yoshida is referring to the transphobic verbal abuse and death threats that Wuk Lamat’s voice actress, who is a trans woman, has reportedly received from some FFXIV users.] It doesn’t do anything except make the staff lose motivation, and in the end that could potentially damage the quality of our game and take away from what makes this game so interesting. So if there are any sort of criticisms, bring it to me, because I’m the one approving this material. I wanted to reiterate that, please refrain from personal attacks against our staff.Where was Yoshi P with this shit when Susan Calloway was being attacked by a mob of trannies for liking a tweet?
>>693000576>"NOOOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU SHOULD LOVE WOKE LEMUTT! I WILL MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND!"Die die die die die die die die
>>693008897There are? I need to take a trip to the South of Texas then, an American latina girl who speaks English is the hottest thing to me.
>>693009089Exactly, that's what the second or third time he's came out to defend Sena Bryer but not once has there been any acknowledgement about what happened to Susan Calloway. Fuck, the more I learn about Yoshida the more I hate him and the dev team that is there right now.
>>693008404>even the directors complained about himdid they? because thats pretty hilarious
>>692996225Video game generals belong on /vg/
>>693009109Do you know what is south of Texas?
>>693009089>could potentially damage the quality of our gameIn everything but presentation (and that is arguable, the graphical update fucked quite a few things up) the game is in a worse state it was 2 years ago. Dawntrail is such a massive fuckup and I can't comprehend how he can't see it. Unless people just stay subbd and SE doesn't notice the bottom line dwindling.
>>693000576stupid mother fucker. What is it with this character? Just give up or kill her off.
>>693009506Mexico? Yeah but I assume there are some in the U.S. right? I don't feel like getting my liver cut out and sold by the cartel in exchange for some Mexican pussy.
>>692996225I don't get why they don't let people do MSQ with one another and just add "WOL and his 3 pals" into cutscenes. TOR did that shit 3 years prior.
>>693000576>She’s a very complex character
>>693009708It's the game engine the game runs on, it's antiquated as shit and can barely keep things together as it is.
>>693009708ps5 limitations prease understand
>>693003002Kate telling Yoshi P Wuk needs to be in the story. MMORPGS are for trannies now.
>>693009610>you can discuss the game on /vg/yeah good luck with that. Maybe if they hired a couple of full time jannies to clean /vg/ up. Shouldn't be hard considering the pay, right?
>>692996225>mfw I just get my thrills from the free trials
>>693009610Let's guess this janny's weight. Over/Under 220?
>>693000576I can't believe I'm gonna be forced into becoming a cutscene skipper.
I simply don't care about xiv anymore.
>yoshida complains that people want to see the scions>he also doubles down on wukIs this really all about his OC?
>>693005138>>693006270In addition, when you finish your first relic, you can do the repeatable quests at the end at the same time with the books. It might take a bit to understand how this is laid out, but it effectively keeps you from doing double work.
>>693009969jannies aren't in the IRCthat was a full blown mod
>>693010041most people including myself let their sub run out after finishing DT MSQ
>>693009610>generals belong on /v/ >if i don't like the game
>>693002956>mfw I defended the trailer thinking surely it is a vacation expansion with a regional threat, only for it to a world ending event over and over again.....funny how they rush to use the animation from the trailer at the end of the expansion
Why didn't they just let Nomura design Wuk? Or someone who isn't a gay Furry faggot that is into Apes. Strangers of paradise for all it is at least it had attractive women.
>>693009610>one after another generalsso one-off threads are fine, work on your reading comprehension
>>693009610Based
Janny clean this shit up.
>>693010320SAARDO THE NEEDFUL SAAR
I think the Dawntrail MSQ SUCKS!
>>693009610yournamehere wow’s strongest player
>>692996225>>692997351I always wonder why every single MMO & Gacha journalist ignores this game. Even IGN wont review it and they're all about type a/b genders.
>>693001475m...more
>>692996225>>/vg/
i think they made wuk lamat bad in purpose so people would hate female hrothgars and nobody will complain about her lack of customization, seriously how the hell they attach hairstyles to faces AGAIN, they don't really care about this race
>>693010320>skjermbilde>browncant make this shit up
>>693005446so? shouldn't it be super true because hes a storyfag ?
Someone's not happy that Wuk Lamat and Dawntrail are being criticised on /v/ they're having a melty that this thread exists.
>>692996225>WoW stacks value the amount of damage control shiteaters still run for blizzard is amazing
>>693010208>most people/v/ermin are deluded
>>693010790oh i meant people who aren't literal addicts
>>693010790most people i know*fuck i need sleep
>>693007843>>693008003>>693008189>>693008505A total of 10,226 players participated in the "Least Favorite NPC" vote. (There were less that voted on most favorite NPC)1st place: Wuk Lamat (7261 votes)2nd place: Sphene (1247 votes)3rd place: Zoraal Ja (645 votes)4th place: Bakool Ja Ja (409 votes)5th place: Gulool Ja (250 votes)6th place: Zekowa (246 votes)7th place: Erenville (112 votes)8th place: Koana (56 votes)(no other NPCs were voted on)Some comments in Cantonese:>You don’t even have to think about it, it’s well deserved>71 percent! Hahahahahaha made me laugh to death>Complete victory>It's all Erenville's fault for bringing the female big cat overMost Favorite NPC results:1st place: Cahciua (1320 votes)2nd place: Erenville (1245 votes)3rd place: Krile (1002 votes)4th place: Alisaie (602 votes)5th place: Estinien (560 votes)6th place: G'raha Tia (599 votes)7th place: Otis (499 votes)8th place: Sphene (479 votes)9th place: Gulool Ja Ja (329 votes)10th place: Wuk Lamat (319 votes)
3 more classes to go
>>693011040Cahciua more popular? I though the Chinese hated dark skinned people
>>693011040I'm glad the JPs hate Wuk, because they'll have to do actual change because this game mainly services Japan. NA doesn't require any tending because they're all too busy modding and gooning, unless Yoshi P abandons JP for the NA paypigs. But then the game truly won't be worth playing anymore. Webm related is how NA "plays" the game while JP actually plays gameplay content.
>>693005138Just be a real gamer
>>692996225>while WoW stacks valueI know journalists are full of shit, but how long has it been since WoW been worth the sub? Prideflight and The DEI Within haven't been it.
>>692996225>while WoW stacks value
>>693000576>>693007031>>693009089It should be obvious by now that FFXIV is full of LGBTQIA+ people, and their allies, and it wouldn't surprise me if they spend a lot of money on the game. Sena Bryer was an offering to them, since they're an important community within FFXIV. But it's a shame, both for the game and for the troons, that Yoshida gave them such a shitty character and VA to represent them. Not to mention a rather shitty expansion. If you wanted to be cynical, Yoshida purposefully sabotaged FFXIV's outreach for that community. A monkey paw, so that he could at least say he tried. Though it could have simply been incompetence on the part of Kate for choosing Sena and Hiroi's terrible writing.Still, Yoshida gives a professional answer. All complaints should be directed to him. He is the Director and Producer of FF14 and, ultimately, he'd have to have approved all the big decisions about the game. He deserves the praise or the criticism for how Dawntrail would have turned out and he's the one in the best position to change things. I'm sure he also doesn't want FFXIV's reputation to be tarnished by fans harassing Sena in case she 41 percents herself, but that's also gonna be on him. Yoshida couldn't have approved a more obnoxious and retarded social media grifter as the VA for the lead character of 7.0, which either tells me he did it on purpose or things have just gotten that messy inside the FF14 team.
>Erenville is a surprise break out character that everyone loves>next expansion is following him to his homeland>it's not his expansion, it's a tranny cat that won't leave you alone who's the main characterThey could've had a second G'raha Tia but instead we got a second Lyse.
What is his FUCKING problem????
>>693004546Toriyama had passion when he made Lightning. Yoshi-P is a fucking husk of a man. I'd bet my left nut on Toriyama making Yoshi-P his little bitch.
>>693011214The JPs do hate her, however this is from a Chinese poll.
>>693011214that’s a chinese poll, not JP. and regardless, yoshi P decided to double down on wuk for the patches. it’s over
>>693011323Wuk is his oc waifu and he’s UPSET you didn’t love her
you love itwe love it
>>693011323His ego was inflated by calling him the "iconic YoshiP" and worshipping him for years so he believes whatever he touches turns to Gold. He still hasn't had the cold realisation that that period of time is long over. See the middling success of FF16 and Dawntrail.
>>693005905retarded dev team ruins the story + the excitement by dropping the worst fucking ff14 trailer of all time. dawntrail story so bad that people obtained apathy before hatred.
>>693011414This looks ugly as fuck. Why do you have such cringy dogshit saved on your computer?
>>693009932They tried that We cum tributed the mod posts and they left.
They have to introduce scion dating after the catastrophe that was DT.
Post yfw you didn't boughted Yawnfail
>>693011683They have to introduce three things.1. An Anti-cheat to get rid of all the scripters and hackers ruining PvP and High-End content as well as botting scum. (Marketplace undercutting bots are fucking terrible and need to be dealt with.)2. Stop focusing so much on the fucking story if they're not going to bother hiring half-way competent writers anymore and start making an actual game that has interesting and enjoyable mechanics and not this 2 minute meta bullshit.3. Yoshi-P gets the boot. Get him the fuck outta here. He admitted he doesn't give a single fuck about the game. It doesn't make sense to keep him around. The game will die in his hands and he couldn't care less.None of this will happen. XIV is fucked.
>>692996225>while WoW stacks valueThis fags posting from the MoP era
>>693011797
>buckbroken wowfag dumps his folder again
>>693000576>spend 99% of the story that takes tens of hours to complete with a single character>barely learn anything about herThat's not a good thing, Yoshi.
>>692996225>wow stacks value
>>693012019Shit like this makes me hate the fact that I share a skin color with such fucking freaks. Nobody hates Niggers more than a Black person. Trust me.
is WoW on gamepass yet? that seems to be the endgame for its "Stack value" plan. you can brag wow has millions of subs if you count ever gamepass holder as a player.
>>693012091
>>693012091Pay what you owe Howard
>>693012019Now post Johnny Somali getting beat up in Korea.
>>693012168Look at the monkey go.
>>693012168Me at 0.09
>>693010595Might have to do with the fact that it has negative marketing and any footage or screenshots look like shitty PS2 cutscenes
>>693010320You know ff14 is fucking bad, when the biggest fucking shill is shitting on it.
>>693012091I honestly hope they get killed already, Asians are way too nice.
>>693012238
>>693011868> An Anti-cheat This would be nice but it would kill the game because it will also effect the modders who do cringekino like this.>>693012019>>693012168Nakayoshi ain't do shit
>>693012313gollum & unreal engine king kong got review scores before sega mmothink about that
>>693012347Why should I care about other people opinions? I like it and that’s all that matters. Unless you’re a npc
>>693012394
I think I'll just complete Eden ult and ShB story ult and that's it, emotional investment over
>>693012394>white man works out to improve himself>bl*ck dances around for upvotesthis speaks volumes
Who cares? FFXIV's story ended with Endwalker. Just stop giving it attention.
its so crazy that in one expansion they basically completely shattered the spell over a huge chunk of the playerbase and pissed them off to this extent>>693000576oh boy i cant wait for 5 more hours of Wukslop and content I'll be done with in 2 days!>>693012432I thought this was SecondLife at first
>>693012432They pander way too much to the absolute faggots who ERP and RP at night clubs and such degenerate establishments. It's an MMO and it's gonna have shit like this but they said so themselves that mods are not allowed and they should follow through with that rule with imperialist efficiency. Get these fucking scum out of the game and MAYBE they get an audience that doesn't drool on the ground every waking second.
>>693000576He's a fucking moron and if they sincerely try and keep her around past 7.3 they will have a dead game on their hands
>>693000576>hoping we can show more of what makes Wuk Lamat so greatWhat a genuinely misguided way to think. Write an interesting character, not a "character people will think is great."
THE MMO DARK AGE HAS BEGUN
So when will Yoshi reveal that Wuk Lamats feet do in fact smell like tacos?
>>692996225>while wow stacks valuelollmaofunny to note is that the article and the guy who published are getting torn apart in the comments
>>693012662why does this viera have a miqote face
>>693012762It started November 23 2024
>>693012669The game had so much else to offer, but during it's peak popularity back in 2021 and people were asking what the game had to offer. Clubs were pushed as the "peak content" for the game. It was doomed from there on out.
>>693011040I would acknowledge this because it's mostly accurate.fF not for the fact that Cahciua is their favorite NPC. Cahciua is garbage.
>>693012662Honestly the most amazing part of DT is the sheer amount of comments I've seen like>well most people don't complete the MSQ>a lot of people don't even play for the story>the story isn't that importantLike a 180 done overnight. The most ardent defenders of the game will argue that the majority of the playerbase doesn't play for the story, PvE content, or anything at all and are just paying a monthly tithe to SE.
>>693012432If they put a anti-cheat in XIV and XI the games would be dead overnight.
she won
>>693012934The least has way more votes than favorite. That should tell you something
>>693012669>>693012878Basically what happened was all the ERP faggots who were still playing Second Life found out how moddable XIV was and so they abandoned that to come to XIV and infested the game with all their stupid nightclub bullshit.It exploded during the WoW exodus from Shadowlands because that's how the word got out.
>>693012878Yeah I remember. Really fucking blows honestly. They were always very lazy with the game, but now the part is pretty much over. I'm not holding my fucking breath anymore. I haven't subbed since launch and after finishing the MSQ I felt the need to uninstall and I haven't bothered with it since. I feel bad to leave behind my friends who are regulars but the game is just not worth it anymore. My sub would be wasted and I don't feel like pretending the game has anything to offer me anymore.
>>693012978>still have nothing but AIslop because wow has the cultural impact of a dead fish on land after sneedolands to the point even porn artists can't muster one pic of a fat titty purple elf
>>693012972and WoW would be even more dead than it already is they didn't have 5 different versions of it stapled together
>>693012978... actually true, she is way better than Zoraal'ja
reminder that the msq ended with Endwalker
>>693013009>>693012669i always wonder why they dont go to pso2 instead? its easier to mod and f2p.
>>693001456I haven't even started this dawntrail, the Zero slop from 6.1 onward was too much for me. I want to play the raids, but having to go through an entire expansion skipping every single scene and hating it all the way through is the definition of torture, not fun, so unless they make all of 7.X skippable I'm not going back to the game ever again.
https://www.wikifeet.com/Wuk_Lamat
The Mihoyo MMO is going to kill xiv
>>693013162I didn't hate the ending of Endwalker. It's a fine ending and I liked how the Alliance raids and the Panda raids both related to the Ancients.The MSQ past 6.2 doesn't exist as far as I'm concerned.
>Yes, the game's had big issues with its delves. Yes, it had a wonky balance patch and dropped a $90 dinosaur on the store for some reason. But from where you guys were back in 2020? You're eating good.
Best way to play XIV is now free trial.
>>693011270I can't believe is the same game. Obviously the entire dev team was cycled except for yoshida.
>>693013162This. The post-endwalker patches were a little lower than "ok" but I did appreciate the pandaemonium raids and the twelve because they sort of tied into our current situation and world. I didn't purchase Dawntrail simply because there was simply nothing they could have done to measure up to the buildup of ARR though Endwalker.
>>693012129WoW on Gamepass would unironically kill the game, they would lose a fuckton of dedicated sub revenue and the amount of new Gamepass players would be nowhere near enough to make up for it. It's such a retarded idea that only Microsoft would do it.
>>693013230The XIV GMs are basically tranny-friendly sub-humans. They always take the side of the LBGTQ+ freaks who spam them with reports.It's actually fucking disgusting.
>>693013365the end credits for endwalker were the end credits for ffxiv as far as i'm concerned
>>693013431He can't even praise WoW earnestly. Just "compared to the literal dregs of Shadowlands, WoW is doing a bit better now!"Fucking. Sad.
>>693013498thats another thing. you have GMs who trigger happy ban their subs for minor "harassment" offenses.GMs basically dont exist in pso2 anymore so people just ERP mod all day long for free.
>>693013560panda and the twelve were ok. the rest never happened
>>693013560Yep, didn't even buy dawntrail but I clearly didn't miss out on anything. Shame about the large house but who cares, was fun while I had it
>>693013498proofs? or is this just one of those things you say
>>693013713they were shit shut up
>>693012839pretty sure its face 2, though it might be modded >>693012960yeah, funny watching people trying to defend the current mess>>693013471i was willing to give the post-patch MSQ a pass because it felt like a trial series they had to pad out to be MSQ, ARs were kinda cool storywise till the end where they went straight into the gutter, shame actually playing them kept putting me to sleep
>>693013731play the gamethey can spam TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS and if you report them nothing happens but if you tell them to shut up you cop a ban
>>693013678They like their little mafias. These faggots need such an environment otherwise they get expelled by actual normal people naturally. Like a fucking cancer they need something to suck the life out of and feed off of or they naturally die off.Nobody fucking wants em' anywhere near them. That's why they're so aggressive about their repulsive behavior. If you're not with them, you're against them. It's pathetic as fuck.
>>693013740Pandaemonium eventually gave us Athena who was peakhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLjbC1G3jJQ
>>693013865This.I got a warning for calling one of these freaks a 'nerd' in a dungeon. The context was that I was fucking joking, but he felt the need top get his speed dial GM slave on the line.
I skipped all the cutscenes for DT did the ex trials and let my sub lapse due to how bad it was. I'm back to playing WoW and even had a friend I made on FFXIV come over to WoW. FFXIV NA is being held together by terminal coombrains
>>693005120At this point both WoW and XIV have total shit eater playerbases. WoW probably moreso, but that doesn't absolve XIV of anything.
>>693013989WoW players eat shit with a self-aware glumness but eat it nonetheless while XIV players eat shit and tell you how amazing the shit is. I couldn't tell you which is worse
>>693013865so no proofs?
>>693007228that happen but with bakoolhahaha
>>693014098Show me your rainbow kneesocks, pretty girl (boy)
>>693013989The real truth nuke is that the MMO playerbase, no matter what game is mentally ill as fuck now. Hell, the entire world is but MMOs really let you wave that freak flag out.
>>693014086>WoW players eat shit with a self-aware glumnessFunny joke.
How much is Yoshida to blame for the atrocious state of the game?
>>693014186Anyone who gives Blizzshart money today is a fucking dumbass. Their opinion is invalid. I stopped playing XIV since the launch of DT it was that bad. MMOs are basically dead today.
>>693014154Provide some proof of your claims first (you won't because you don't have any).
>>693014186They know they're pigs and that their whale money just buys more yachts for the c-suite rather than improve the game. They're helpless to stop themselves, though.
Anyone else think that the twelve were human auspice? I figured out that why the source had them vs shard not having it. + different myths being just regular human having lived to 1 thousand year and gaining godhood from that wayinstead its just fucking ancient shit. PURE FUCKING ANCIENT SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
>>693013959>in a dungeon.This is why nobody talks in dungeons other than a simple greeting and a "gg" at the end.
no wonder gachas killed mmorpgs
>>693011376you think the patches are done in the momment?they already have everything planed till next expansion anon.
>>693014186It's the usual thing where they know they can't win the argument so they just go scorched earth "both sides bad, but the other side a little bit worse" because they think no one will contest that because they come across as neutral or impartial enough.It's a sign of desperation.
>>693014316I fucking hate XIV's community. Either it's positive and fake as fuck or silent and withdrawn, in a fucking MMO of all things.
>>692996395You're allowed to have XIV threads on /v/... as long as they are shitpost threads. This has been well documented over the years. At this point, I think the mods make the XIV shitpost threads themselves, since there is always one up, yet if anyone ever makes a "real" XIV thread, it's pruned before 300.
>>693014316I talk in dungeons and I have had 0 issues. Maybe it's the NA side that's fucked up, but I've literally never had a problem.
>>692996225wtf I love journos now?
>>693014186I mean this used to be true many years ago, but nowadays both of the fanbases can't take any criticism of their second home they spend all their time in
>>693014265I am too aware of what wowfags are actually like and their actual response to the rightful mockery they're subjected to to buy into it even as a joke.The deluge of "YOU ARE JUST JEALOUS AND POOR WE ARE WINNING" and "JUST SHUT UP AND QUIT PLAYING IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT YOU WON'T BE MISSED BYE" or "WOW SOME PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS MISERABLE I WONDER WHY EVEN PLAY GAMES IF YOU'RE NEVER HAPPY" whenever Blizzard comes under fire for something is deafening.
>>693014447It is certainly more of an issue on the NA side.On NA you need to be extremely careful with what you say and the phrasing that is used or else you may run into some freak who is a professional at being offended.
>>693014495>content is too easytranslation: I never tried Ultimates
>>693014261There's this FC that only recruits real women. You have to post a picture of you with a time stamp and everything to get in.Wanna know why? I mean, do I have to tell you?So anyway, they get absolutely fucking livid at the fact that they can't get into the women only FC and they've tried over and over to get GMs to ban the advertisement on party finder off the game permanently for "hate speech".They've actually managed to get the post taken down many times, which pisses the real women off and they get their own GMs to make the other tranny friendly ones fuck off.It's a whole drama war thing that's been going on for a long time. Occasionally during EW's final patches you'd see them passive aggressively advertising their own shit and a few other parties in their descriptions throw shade at the other.Trannies are notorious women haters, even more than Incels if you could believe it. If they're still around, it's ONLY because they have GMs on their side protecting them.Otherwise they'd be fucking GONE.Women are the most protected class in any community. Do you honestly think they WOULDN'T get away with banning other players if those faggots didn't have their own little clique?Like, shit man.
>>693003549Can you join a pug blind and complete it? Can you even get the queue to pop for a pug? These are rhetorical of course, we all know the answer is no. That means it's too difficult for 95% of the player base.
>>693014739sounds like underpaid jannies being forced to deal with annoying retardsnot sure how this anecdote is meant to prove anything
>>693014852You wouldn't accept anything as truth if he showed it to you shut the fuck up retard.
>>693014736Ultimates are easier than savage a lot of times, depends which one but like I said it's an old ass picture anyway. Regardless mythic raiding is way harder because it's balanced extremely badly, when the best players in the world require like 20% hp reduction hotfixes sometimes to kill bosses you know the devs had no clue what they're doing kek
>>693009610I'm the autismo in the screenshot here. This is actually quite creepy seeing an interaction in IRC months ago captured and spread around.
>>693011214good god what is wrong with people
>>693014889i'll take it more seriously when you provide actual proof of your claims beyond "reee two groups of whiny drama queens were having a gay retard war together and gms were forced to quell it therefore they would totally heckin oppress me because i'm not a protected class"
>>693014971Fatherlessness, mainly. I blame women, though. They get away with murder and men don't stand a chance in court.
>>693014937cute. And honestly it's aged like milk since we have multiple permanent generals on /v/ now and the jannies and mods just let em stay up, some aren't even videogames yet there's a thread 24/7 and they even call them generals
>>693014979Is that what you got out of that? Holy shit drown in shit faggot. That's not what I said. You're a fucking dumbass. You only see what you want to see.
>>693014937You're pathetic
>>693015046we had 5 wow threads up about nothing and a wow vs xiv shitpost war thread simultaneouslynone of them were prunedsingular xiv threads discussing 7.1 were pruned on the day of the ll and the site going up
>>693000576The critical misunderstanding is that it's not about complexity, it's screen time. FF14 is an ensemble cast game that will give SOME favor to certain characters per expansion to develop their relationships with the people around them.Wuk does the opposite of that, she undevelops the people around her, ruining the ensemble nature of FF14 and turning everyone else into furniture to be used.
>>693015154To be fair, the /v/ XIV threads always have several avatar fags shitting them up.
>>693015104>He didn't buy into my histrionic posts reeeeWaiting for you to provide real proof, womanbrained anon.
REAL ppl still play wow? i thought it was a chinese rmt bot game.
>>693015154Atleast those are videogames. An AI picture general is not videogames, neither are the constant ERP generals
>>693015240Alright here's my proof.
>>693015291I'm just saying that it's hilarious how flagrantly biased it is and how little plausible deniability the /v/ janny has left. He'll always mention some nonsense particular for why a single xiv thread needs the prune, but ignore the multiple threads of other games including WoW that talk about nothing worthwhile at all that stay up for hours, even when they turn into total shitheaps.
>>692996225>WoW>stacks valueWhat the fuck is this dude talking about
>>693015337Thought so. I accept your concession.
SE will die within our lifetime. Take solace in that, anons.It's a shame Blizzard won't be joining its fate.
>>693015415wow gets more than one patch a year
I want a Digimon MMO.
>>693015415it's weirdo game urinalist mumbling who even knows
>>693015494And that's supposed to be value how exactly?
>>693015387Yeah sure, it's all weird. Why even have 5 different vidya boards when people don't use em anyway (outside of /vg/) like we have a phone game board but people would rather post on /v/ or /vg/ etc >>693015494pretty sure XIV gets one every 3-4 months no? it's standard release schedule
>>693015561you have more stuff to do with the sub you pay for
>>693015521I want a xenoblade MMO.
A wow vs xiv thread went to complete shit yesterday and it was mostly wowfags getting BTFO. Eventually it turned to just posting crying s o y jaks with Square Enix/Blizzard/WoW/FFXIV logos on their hats and shirts.And the janny only deleted the ones making fun of Blizzard/WoW.I thought that was pretty funny.
>>693015473How self-important are you? The GMs are actual trannies themselves. Do you even play the game? Have you ever dealt with one? No, of course not. If I told you a sandwich has two slices of bread you would ask me for proof of that, too. Just kill yourself.
>>693015612Too bad that thing to do is spamming the same dungeons or the "brand new raid" that reuses a 20 year old dungeon.And they still somehow managed to release it in a broken state.
>>693015639not everyone plays on NA
>>693015684sexo
>>693015639>incoherent neurotic rambling That's right.
>>693015630good news, you can play xenoblade 1, 2, or 3 for that
>>693015684Screenshot the roe daddy at the marketboard for me
>>693014937No you aren't
>>693015774>1 player offline singleplayernot a mmo
>>693015792I quite literally am
>>693000576>um, actually sweetie, we didn't get enough wuk and that was the problem
>>693015771I actually feel sorry for you. This is my last pity (you).Hope it lasts you until your next depression episode due to lack of anyone in your life.
>>693012878>but during it's peak popularity back in 2021 and people were asking what the game had to offer. Clubs were pushed as the "peak content" for the gameYeah I remember literally every streamer who came over to the game during the WoW exodus were immediately (around the time they'd finish ARR typically) introduced to Night Clubs. Not actualy GAMEPLAY content. Not actual MMO content. But fucking degenerate night clubs. THIS was what the FFXIV community wanted to push to the forefront as representative of what the game is about, to millions of people watching these streams. That alone was a massive redflag but nobody understood back then.Now thanks to them, the Second Life community discovered this game, realized it's a significantly better version of their game with better graphics, artstyle, and modding potential, and invaded and now they're a large proportion of the playerbase and won't fucking leave
I always hear the funniest, most out there stories. If /v/ is to be believed, you can't walk anywhere without seeing modbeasts that will try to groom you (but they never mention you can't even see modbeasts by default). Everyone is evil and out there to get you reported and banned, yet I've not had a singular issue talking to people in dungeons, raids or frontlines. Nobody plays the game, but then most people know exactly what to do in roulettes and the times I get an outright awful group (or even a single awful member) are rare.
Monster Hunter Wilds is gonna cause the playerbase to drop globally anyways.
>>693008189Why is 2 hated? She looks very cute.
>>693015968>>693013072>>693012878>>693012669>>693013009>Basically what happened was all the ERP faggots who were still playing Second Life found out how moddable XIV was and so they abandoned that to come to XIV and infested the game with all their stupid nightclub bullshit.>It exploded during the WoW exodus from Shadowlands because that's how the word got out.Blame this dumb bald fuck for his videos interviewing a Night Club owner and an ERP community whore for bringing this game to the attention of the Second Life crowd.
>>693016043yeah dude. that's gonna kill the game... most people will be done with MH in like a week.
>>693016010Why are you so butthurt about them calling out the freaks they encounter in-game? How anti-social are you that you don't encounter any of these freaks yourself? They're out there. You're just anti-social.
>>693015965The reality is that I feel sorry for you. It must be hard to live in such constant fear of your own shadow, in defiance of reality. Spinning tall tales about the evil creatures out to get you at every step (and the GMs are in on it and maybe even Square itself!) and then having a mental breakdown when others don't buy into you sounds exhausting, arduous and frightening. I hope you get better soon.
>>693013959Retard, just block them. I had that happen once in a hunt train years ago and never seen it happen again.
>>692996225WoW isn't good just because FFXIV had a really shit expansion.
>>693008793the only good post itt
>play a male character>groomer modbeasts ignore youIt's simply that easy
>>693016115the MH mods are gonna be insane after the zoomers found out how to mod RE Enginehttps://x.com/YellowFlashGuy/status/1849807538037895195
>>693016010Don't interrupt WoWies when they're spinning cope tales. They have to imagine that everything in XIV is evil groomers and that socialization that isn't spamming of slurs because you took the slightly shorter m+ route is an attempt to endanger you somehow, because their own community has fallen apart. Hence the widespread and pathological demonization of the nightclub shit even though literally nobody is forced to partake in it.
>>693016179>Just block them lol!All I did was engage in a bit of banter. Apparently getting called a nerd was too much for this faggot, and since GMs are sensitive like your faggot ass, they thought a warning was in order.Get a life you fucking bootlicker.
>>693016240yeah the literal flaming faggots with analworms grooming you is way better
>>693016240What race? This is extremely important.
Don't know, I have been playing since ARR and I didn't even buy dawntrail. Nothing about this expansion looks interesting in any way, the graphics update wasn't nearly good enough to pull me in, the multiple dye shit also wasn't that great from what I heard. It's probably going down as the WoD of ff14.
>>693016187FFXIV had a bad expansion.WoW had 3 in a row and it doesn't seem to be getting any better. Really not sure why they keep chimping at XIV when the past 10 years has been their equivalent of Dawntrail or worse for their game.
>>693016240As a male midlander I've never had to deal with unsolicited advances. It's great. When I used to play on my Miqo'te at first though holy shit I couldn't walk past a city without some sort of catcall or offer to engage in roleplay. It was fucking gross, but I guess that's what I get for entertaining the idea of playing as a female when I'm a guy. I bet the biggest faggots among you love the attention, though. That's why you do it.
>>693016473As a female Highlander I've also gotten 0 advances. The most I got was "nice glam" once. Proving that my love for Highlander women is apparently rarer than I imagined.
What is with WoWtroons constantly yelling to EVERYONE about how amazing and totally alive their game is? How does this affect them in any way?
>>693016602Female Highlanders have a more dominant aura about them that the Miqo or Au'ra don't. The latter both come off as more submissive and approachable.That's why. But then again the most aggressive deviants I've ever met were ALWAYS fem'ras. They're pretty depraved from what I've gathered.
>>693016289Yea and you’re a fucking retard and I’m pretty sure you didn’t just do a bit of banter. You people lack the skills to hide your power levels
>>693014931Meanwhile, the devs actually playtest the raids the design to the point where normal players were bitching about it being too hard because the developers were just better at the game than your average player
>>693016240I played male lala and this was the case 100% In fact it was incredibly difficult to get people to interact with me at all outside of roulette dungeons. People REALLY do not like male lala and I have no idea why. I wanted to be small and cute but apparently that's a capital offense.
>>693016602I've gotten several tells complimenting me about my Thighlander over the years, the latest one being less than a week ago.That's one race you need to be really careful with when designing, because there's a very fine line between cute and tranny for them.
>>693016608The funnier thing to me is the fact that they seethe and melt down about mods and Limsa all the time when Goldshire and Darknest both exist and have for years. Also this sudden crusade of hatred about any socialization that extends beyond calling each other retards in voice chat for fucking up a mechanic, and it's started to come across as a bit sour grapesy. As in "if my game can't do it, then I'm going to scream so hard until I convince people that that thing is actually bad so my game not being able to do it is a good thing." I've no love for the nightclub and adjacent shit myself and I have gone to approximately none of those "parties. But also I'm a bit more withdrawn than I used to be. Feel like my time to "make friends" and chat a lot inside of games has sort of passed, so I usually just exchange a few small words in dungeons or raids or wherever, maybe have a chat, but I don't try and make long term friends anymore via it.
Why are WoW players so obsessed with XIV to the point of making these blatantly passive aggressive jab articles for no other purpose than to be used as bait and to trick retards?Did losing their #1 spot really break them that hard?
>>693013865>>693014098>they spam 'trans rights'yes, they do spam that shit almost on cue whenever there is a large gathering of players for events. >pic was taken in 2020
>>693009832I will not understand, FFXIV is a PS3 game.
>>693017132I’ve never been banned for “interrupting a BLM protest” in XIV but I have in WoW
If Wuk Lamat is still center stage in 7.1 I'm just unsubbing and not coming back. I am fucking tired of this shit. Total tranny death. I wanted more Shadowbringers, not this fucking attempt by Square to become Disney and burn their own game to the ground by mimicing Rey.They know exactly what they're doing. Even if they don't, I don't care, I'm done.
>>693009708Because they probably don't want "you are the WoL but also he is the WoL but he is your pal" or whatever.I more so wish they'd let me enter a solo duty in a party. The inability feels archaic.
>>693017037the only compliments I've ever gotten was on my name because I named myself after a warhammer characterwhich is only proof that 99% of the playerbase is men because there isn't a single woman on earth that likes warhammer
>>693017318Anon, 7.1 was balls deep in development when 7.0 released.
>>693016864Lol whatever bitch. Go back to ERP for gil you slut.
>>693012091Hi yakub
>>692996225Is this a paid article? lmaois there a single person that thinks wow sub is worth the money & "stacking value"?
>>693009832Back during ShB they did hardware surveys and it turned out that actually the bigger challenge was thirdies running the game on a toaster that couldn't even match the base PS4
>>693016864This is true. People will talk about how they just made a cute little remark and they got accosted by a GM for no reason and then later we find out they went on an unhinged diatribe.
>>693017506the only way I see wow stacking value is including microsoft gamepass
>>693017426Sounds like projecting, unlike your I have millions just from playing the game and only stupid bitches erp
>>693017506>Is this a paid article? lmaoNo, it's just written by a WoWie.Who is being torn apart in the comments.
>>693017541Thank god you're always there to accurately deduce every online interaction. What would we do without you?
>>693006270I dunno if this counts as cheating, but my favorite plugin to use is PlayerTags, with the job abbreviation in the name tag (this lets all status icons work), and each role is color coded.Tank: Blue, Healer: Green, Melee: Red, Ranged: Orange, Caster: Pink, Crafter: Purple, Gatherer: Yellow.I guess it is cheating cause it works in PvP also, which is nice to see color coding in Frontlines (hint: SCH should target Caster or Ranged for applying DoT to spread)
>>693017641Well, take "source: I made it the fuck up"-tier posts at face value, apparently. :^)
>>693017541If GMs were worth a lick of salt they would deal with bots but even if you report them they don't care. RMT occasionally gets action taken but bots are free to fuck up the market. GMs are definitely lazy.
>>693017628So true! These dumb wowie zowies don't even realise that based Yoshi-P (he gets us) literally TOLD us to play other games!
>>693007485a couple loud artist does not mean popularthere is a reason why there are no furry banners planned in ZZZ for 1.x/2.x
>>693017743Well, I wouldn't even claim otherwise.
>>693017752*unless you own a house, then you have no choice but to stay subbed regardless and physically walk in to your house at least once a month
>>693017742Nah. You're a stupid retard. Your opinion is invalid and nobody gives a fuck what you think. :^)
>>693017752Myself, personally? I wouldn't wanna do that. I'd rather be doing the same dungeons for months on end and then maybe tackle some basic braindead mechanic bosses in a 20 year old environment.
>>693000576Haven't played since shadowbringer, qrd on this character?
>>693017856>ree shut up stop shining a light on my spurious unproven claims you're ruining iiitLul.
everyone itt seems to hate the game but i wager most are still subbed lol
>>693018038Why don't you two just kiss already? You're both a pair of trannies at this point.
>>693017838It's simple? You just quit XIV and start playing WoW and get a house there instead.
>>693018107No one hates XIV more than a XIV player.
>>693018107I don’t hate the game so I’m still subbed
>>693018194Yet there are still dickheads who defend it tooth and nail with disingenuous bullshit. They know the game sucks but to hear someone else say it is a personal insult, it seems.
>>693017405It's over. There aren't any other MMO's on the market worth even glancing at either, so I guess I'm finally out of the entire genre at this point.Maybe a decent new one will come out in the next ten years.
Content? What content? Instead of doing those boring one-and-done activities that take only 2 hours at best, you can do the same dungeons from the current expansion (or an expansion from years ago) with 0 mechanics on repeat for your weekly vault, where your friend might get a BIS item after his first reset while you haven't had anything useful in 3 months. And we WoW players like that. WoW is the #1 MMO for a reason and that's because it gives us worthwhile goals to pursue.
>>693018296I'd just suggest taking a break until at least 7.2, maybe 7.25 if you feel that strongly about it.Ask people what they think of the MSQ by then. Nothing really lost for you.Then if it's still bad, do it over again until you just can't be bothered to ask anymore and leave for good.
>>692996225>a massive graphic overhaulalways costly yet short term 'solutions'...
>>693018129Why is every WoW YouTuber a complete fucking clown of a person?
>>693018107Ironically no different from WoW players.
>>693017950Yuck, no thank you! Wowie zowies will never understand that we play FFXIV because we get to play other games instead. Yoshi-P and the modding community get us, so whenever based Yoshi-P has to add gross content for incel raiders the modders have our back with handy plogons that let us get back to the 'mung 'sands to mod 'n goon and then other game with the 'cord. We like this. $12.99 a month gets you permission to play literally dozens of other games instead. It's why FFXIV is the best MMO on the market, because you don't play it.
>>693018287Calling it a Starbucks tranny game isn’t criticism, brownoid
>>693018296I suppose what made older MMOs special was that it was a method to do mass socialization and gaming together, something that not many games did. Multiplayer games then were basically arena or coop focus in smaller scale.But now it's moot where social media took over everything, and every game with multiplayer has a social component anyway.For me, the reason I've played FF14 hasn't changed since I started in 1.0, I just want grow and make my character bit by bit. I like to get all the relics, complete collectable stuff like Triple Triad cards, Orchestrion Rolls, all minions, stuff like that.
they just need to give people something to grind for, even if it is nothing.for example, make the current tome cap to be locked by job. that way the sickos can grind to 2000 tomes on 20 diferent jobs. 20x the amount to grind if you want to have you busy
>>693000576I think Wuk Lamat is the key to all this. She's so dense, there's so much going on.
>>693018510kek look at how hard you’re seething
>>693018510I don't get this webm.
>>693003108>WE NEED TO STOP BEING SAFE, WE NEED TO GO ON THE ATTACKMeanwhile he makes FF16, one of the safest pieces of movieslop entertainment that's so safe that it ripped off an American TV show based on an American book that was already getting stale and tired to audiences BEFORE he started designing the game. Who the fuck does he think he's fooling? Investors?
>>693018107I unsubbed just a few days ago. Shit sucks, and the dev team have their heads too far up their ass to be able to see what fixes need to be made.
>>693018813You're not "with it", hun.
>>693018510That sounds awful. I really wanna be doing a boring dungeon I did 10 years ago again to earn my weekly lotter- I mean vault slot. I think that's a valuable use of my time. Thankfully, Blizzard is so generous to instate a RNG system so that I'm sure I can't have BIS gear in any reliable amount of time because then I'd run out of content. We in WoW like doing the same menial task over and over again, and that's why WoW is #1.
>>693018912share the syncshellwant to see all the huge tits sluts
>>693018813Just mod beast stuff, but you have to actively look it up so no normal person will see it
>>693018813FF14 clique is so mentally ill that they install mods to replace male player character models with sluts to not make it seem like they're being surrounded with competition.
>>693019058But the endless /v/ posting about it made me think if I log in and walk around anywhere in the game I'll see it by default....The /v/ posters couldn't have been lying, right?
>>693019080Sis... those mods belong to the character you see there.
I want to try WoW as someone who has 0 nostalgia for it but I don't want to give Blizzard money. What private server should I try? Is Ascension good assuming I'm not a retard that will get filtered by custom classes?Turtletroons need not respond.
>>693018926Yes, xister, I too hate playing mmos, they're so boring and repetitive and only gross yucky oof yikes neckbeards play them for "gameplay". I'm so glad I get to play other games instead while I pay to idle in XIV (the best game ever because it's over in 20 minutes weekly, so glad based Yoshipee gets that we want to minimize that). I have more important things to do.
>>693012091Those with eyes will see the mockery that is this world
>>693018627Personally I find the itemization in XIV extremely dull, it's pure numbers that can only be felt by measuring then in an equation. There aren't alternative abilities, weapon perks, etc, so all itemization is for me is purely cosmetic. I was basically playing for two things: The story (And performance thereof, IE: Set dressing and music), and a bit of hanging out with some old friends.DT has robbed me of the story, so basically all I have left tying me down is a tenuous connection to other people, and DT going out of its way to actively be revolting isn't worth it. I'm so fucking tired.
>>693018912>Big nig barbarian model>Turns into busty glowing demon
>>693019172But I said I LIKE doing the same thing over and over again for the privilege of a chance to get actually worthwhile gear. I think you misunderstood me. I don't want any actual new content or a goal I can achieve in a set amount of time. I just wanna do the same dungeons over again for months for possibly no gain. And I don't want them to have any mechanics beyond high hitting AoE pulses that can only be mitigated with gear, because actually doing mechanics is gay "stand and let thing resolve" cringe. We don't do that in WoW, and that's why it's the #1 MMO with 15 million subs beloved by everyone.
>>693012091I had a black roommate that would put most of /pol/ to shame with how much he hated trannies and other blacksUnsurprisingly, he was very successful man. Taught me most of what I know about IT.
>>693019121Well duh /v/ lies about 90% of stuff, you have to download mare, get the code, put the code in, then you see it
>>693019439Any tips, since I'm just starting to study comptiaA+.
>>693019467How do I get the code? Is that just something supplied automatically?
>>693019142I know "whoops all lalafell" exists. I can buy a "whoops all sluts" mod over Conan Barbarianman secretely having a slutty tranny model on his own mare.Trannies are huge attention whores. They wouldn't play a male human in realistic armor.
>>693018107>>693018871Lol I just unsubbed as well the interview with YoshiP talking about Diversity and defending Sena Bryer AGAIN was the last straw especially after those 7.1 more Wuk Lamat centre stage I'll come back when they decide to sort themselves out or continue doubling down.
>>693019621It's actually a painfully trivial afair to change another person's character and their gear. It's actually not impossible that what you're saying is true.
>>692996225>WoW stacks valueWoW hasn't stacked anything but pure garbage in 15 years
>You dont like Wuk?>Maybe you just didn't "get" her>So were going to give her even more screen time until you do
>>693018871>>693019667See you tomorrow
I love how there's somehow always someone new there to perceive and comment and feign shock at weeks to months old interviews that get posted here every XIV thread ad nauseam. XIV must have a lot of active players.
>>693019542Ask people
>>693019621Unfortunately for your cope you can see the mare window loading that fag's character
>>693019505Nothing I can give, really. IT at your level is mostly intuitive. Memorize the bullshit you need to memorize then forget about it after you get the cert. You won't see any true knowledge checks until you try to get into higher positions 5-10 years down the line. But as a tier 1 help desk monkey or similar your job is to fiddle with shit. Fuck around with it until it works. Your life is a guessing game but they'll think you're a wizard because technology scares them. But for the love of god, don't take a call center job.
>>693019763they are going to give her the screen time they always had planed to give her, that is too late for them to change.
>>693019832Who do I ask? The creators of the mare thing?
>>693019770https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWD7k6TrJ-g
>>693019905The person? I don’t know much about mare other than the basics, pretty sure each person has their own code
>>693019850Oh, the bunny boyYeah, that's probably a tranny. I thought I was responding to the male highlander webm.
>>693019963so you need to download a mod and then ask people for a code to see their modded character???
>>693019876Sounds like I'm on the right path then. And yeah, the cert process feels like a kind of winnowing of retards and a "We can verify you do not eat paint". I like the fiddling with shit and honestly get a bit 'white whale' with a tech problem if I can reasonably solve it (and if it's not my own PC then I won't have the existential fear of "oh god what if I have to reformat"). Call center work does feel like a level of agony that is unimaginable. I am fine doing tech help for someone I am physically there fore, but trying to explain it over the phone would make me want to shoot myself. So would Wuk - although I'd just hold her head to mine so the bullet shoots us both.Thenks.
Wait Lalafells look like THAT?!
>>693020057Anon they use Mare to fuck each others character. It's for ERP.
>>693019763If we get Wuk Lamat working. 'Cause she's a funnier character than we've ever had in the games...
>>693020129but then it forces me to download something not part of the game and talk to people and ask for their special code before i can see their big titty chars?
>>693020125Man, I consider myself a degenerate and frequent /d/, but what the fuck about this is supposed to be appealing?
>>693020317Their brains are shot to hell
>>693002335The sad part is I know how this scene is gonna fucking go down already>Solution 9 citizens are sad Sphene is gone>Holding a mourning ceremony>Wuk comes in, says some words about how you have to look forward>Don't forget the ones you love, yada yada>Mentions Gulool Ja Ja to try and relate (Does not relate to scenario)>Everyone ignores the fact that she was one of the major players in killing Sphene>"Now lets go get some Tacos!">Tranny lovers shout about how Wuk is perfect in every way and the next 20 expansions should focus around her>Tranny haters shout about trannies, giving the lovers the means to ignore all other criticism>Actual criticisms get left at the wayside and ignored by anyone who could actually make a difference
>>693020270Yeah something like that you want to go into that rabbithole of degeneracy you're best off going to /xivg/ it's all they do is goon over other men wanking over their character being blacked or some other weird shit. I would recommend against it but you do you.
>>693020317the absurdity i thinkat some point it stops being about sexual appeal and just chasing increasing amounts of out there shit for the sake of it being out therethere's a lot of fetishes like thatgigantism fetishism, vore, crushing, most things size play related, growth, inflationdegenerates are going to be degenerates
>>693020469nah was just trying to get it again since people act like this is what you walk into if you boot up the gamebut this is more the equivalent of taking your car to a degenerate bisexual hedonist party, forcefully barging through the door and then screaming bloody murder about all the degeneracy you're being forced to look at
>>693020317It's a drug that you don't stop on. >I like big tits>Why not bigger>Why not BIGGER>WHY NOT BIGGERect.You have to have some level of self control, otherwise you go off the deep end. I am not a prude, I do pretty depraved and unbelievably filthy things, but I have a limit I am willing to draw. Others do not.
>>693015630>>693015774The NSO playtest thing might be a technical prototype to a Xenoblade MMORPG, maybe X2 or a entirely new game.
>>693020954the playtest got leaked and its just nintendos version of roblox.
>>693008637>So if there are any sort of criticisms, bring it to me, because I'm the one approving this material.
>>693009013that "hola" she say, with the way her fingers move to wave. jesus christ so hot
>>693021172Nintendo wasn't satisfied pushing tranny bs via splatoon in game messages so now they are doing so like how roblox preys on children. We are all truly lost.
>>693015774You have no idea what makes an MMO. Stick to your single player action adventure, final fantasy XIV
>>693008897The moment danger hair got a prominent role for ffxiv was the writing on the wall
>>692996225>hit pieceThere's no unfair criticism of them after Yawnfail
