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Game’s not even out yet and the damage control is already in full effect.

>”I swear our team isn’t gonna fuck up Mass Effect like those idiots fucked up Dragon Age!”
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>>693316020
>"as long as I'm running it"
Well, we can be sure he won't be running it shortly
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mass effect was never good
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>>693316842
I bought the first one after everyone saying it was Bioware back on their KOTOR greatness and I remember being so disappointed. I slogged though to the end and had no interest in playing anything else in the series or replaying it
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Will you ever apologize?
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>>693316020
What makes a Turian more photorealistic than a Qunari?
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>>693317481
The ME3 ending is terrible. Doesn't even matter what you think of the rest of the game, it sucks
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No intelligent person said
>It needs to have bland and generic photo realism
They just don’t want mobile game art direction.
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>>693316020
They shot themselves on the foot by focusing too much on Shepard, it's not ME without him but his story has also already been told. Let this be a lesson.
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>>693317481
So how's that ME killer going?
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Dragon Age: Origins also had a realistic style. It only got le cartoon art style with the dogshit sequel
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>as long as I'm running it
uh-oh
death flag raised
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>>693316842
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>>693316020
Of course it won't, it won't ever release after bioware gets disbanded
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What are the chances bioware will exist a year from now?
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>>693316020
Honestly speaking, if they don't turn things around, they're on the chopping block.
Veilguard will sell around a couple million max, but if they don't reflow the popular opinion on their studio, giving people hope for mass effect, they most probably won't even finish developing it.
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>>693316020
"photoreaqlistic" means unreal slop filters stacked on top of each other. The textures are trash and look like they are from 2011 without all the filters and slop added to it

God even piss&bloom was not this bad.
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>>693318590
High
Even with all this drama it will still sell copies and outperform concord.
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>>693318538
Hope so, no way Me4 will be good, there is no way. It will be a miracle if it releases and actually good.
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>>693316020
Yeah, it's the "aesthetics" that are the problem
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Nobody will care about Mass Effect 4 if Shepard isnt back.
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>>693318701
>outperform concord
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>>693318782
Nobody will care about Mass Effect 4 if Shepard isnt black.*
Here, fixed it for you buddy.
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>>693316020
>the next game
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>>693318791
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>>693318701
Literally anything can outperform concord it's the biggest flop in the history of the business
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>>693316020
>shit talking veilguard as if it doesn't decide ME future
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>>693318927
What about that space movie with Eddie Murphy from the 90s?
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>>693316020
>I swear our team isn’t gonna fuck up Mass Effect
Andromeda
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>>693318919
Returned so hard. Truly a return to form!!!
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>>693317481
I won't ever apologize for ruining entire trilogy with that bullshit ending.
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>>693316020
Mass Effect of Halo Infinite
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>>693316020
Fool me once shame on you
fool me twice.....uh
you foll me once you cant fool me again!
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>>693318590
I gotta wonder at what point does the 'Bioware' brand goes from prestigious boon to a detriment trash you don't want to touch? I feel like we've reached that point or are at least close to reaching it.
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>>693317481
>Speculations for everyone!
No. Fuck you.
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I don't care, there's no way it'll be good.
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>>693319482
Using ubisoft lingo isnt going to stop your asshole from prolapsing bioware
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I am replaying mass effect and it's insane how much better it is than the modern slop
It's weird how much attention to detail in characters and world building there is
Kaidan, Ashley and the crew act like actual soldiers and none of the quirk chungus shit from the newer bioware games.
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>>693316020
There's no more story left for Mass Effect.
Unless they prequel it and we see Shepherd's back story, but no one really gives a shit.
Andromeda was an attempt at a spin-off and it failed.
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ME3 ending literally ruined the entire trilogy, No matter how good ME1 was no matter how (i hated ME2 mostly) good ME2 lore drops were. Nothing matters because the ending is so massively shitty that is KILLS the games as a whole.

That is all.
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>>693316020
Liara
(She/They)
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>>693316842
3 had fun combat
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>>693316020
It’s still gonna be dogshit who cares
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I know I'm gonna try it anyway because I love Mass Effect so I will compulsively try any new instalment, but I just know the angara will be back and that fills me with disgust. There has never been a gayer and lamer alien species in all of fiction.
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>>693320423
Companies once hired mostly talented white men and sprinkled in some Asian guys, all of whom shared the intention of appealing to their customers, and without the intention to push fringe social issues. It was a glorious time. Pull up a chair and listen.
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>>693319197
It doesn’t.
There’s no overlap between the two Deb teams (Except for people who saw what a shitshow Dragon Age was gonna be and jumped ship to the ME team).

When Vielguard flops, that team is absolutely gonna get shuttered but BioWare as a whole won’t die unless they fuck up the next ME.

Mass Effect was always the more popular franchise anyway.
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>>693317481
no
im still mad
my hatred will burn to the end of time
fuck that faggot
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the "cartooney" art style isn't on purpose, it is the result of gross incompetence. Low res texturex, wack proportions and stiff animations.
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>>693316020
Veilguard's gonna be lambasted so badly that EA will force ME4 to be the most gooner-chud space shooter of all time. Can't wait to se the Tali bimbofication questline.
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>>693319301
Pluto Nash only lost like $150 million. Which is hilariously bad for 2000. But if you weigh it against Eddie Murphy's career it's not too bad, he's drawn almost 4 billion dollars at the box.
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>>693316020
I'm glad Jade Empire will never get a sequel or remaster
these morons would fuck it up
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>>693321569
That's a nice thought, but ideologue activists would literally rather burn their place of employment to the ground then ever concede to the "chuds". And considering the corporate side just has to suck off investment firms, don't count on it.
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>>693316020
mass effect and dragon age had different audiences, this should not be a surprise
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>>693321976
>dragon age 1+2 ad surgery scars+non binary garbage
yep yep!
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>>693321569
>coomer still think about cum

The west is never going to appeal to your desires without appealing to SJW shit first,give it up and bow to your asian overlords
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>>693322048
the meme in 2009 was being gay, dragon age was plenty gay
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>>693321867
best series btw i need to replay it.
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>>693316020
He'll just be replaced with a DEI hire and even ME4 will go full Slaanesh purple
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Do you remember when Bioware made games where you could punch a female report in the face for being a snide whore and kill your entire party if you felt they were ugly or something?
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>>693316020
Charge your phone.
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>>693316020
Mass Effect was a turd since day one though.
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>>693322560
>Do you remember
stopped reading right there, I don't even remember 20 minutes ago. Gonna buy the new Call of duty and FIFA now, see ya later NERD
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>>693319482
I'm having a bla- I mean return to form.
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>>693316020
>>>”I swear our team isn’t gonna fuck up Mass Effect like those idiots fucked up Dragon Age!”
lol but we had mass effect 3.
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>>693317481
Has he apologized for that shit ending?
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>>693318701
Anon with one copy they can already outsold Concord
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>>693318902
Anon you can make Shepard whatever race you want. Not me because I always use default Shepard as a normal person
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>>693323215
His voice works better as a old black guy
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>>693322947
And Andromeda
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>>693322947
plus andromeda was flop, they were practically giving that game away soon after release
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>>693316842
I haven't touched a single Bioware game after Jade Empire
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Reminder that the Deux Ex Human Revolution, Mankind Devided writer is writting Mass Effect 5. Should be at least decent right?
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>>693317481
Back in 2012 the whole internet even the people who never played Mass Effect clowned on them
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I want a turian bf that is a stick in the mud social and focused military career man, but tries his best to be affectionate when we are together.
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>>693316020
They have a lot bigger problems than just the art style
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>>693317778
Agreed. Although allowing a color coded filter for the one ending was pretty neat.
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>>693316020
who is the director?
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>>693317778
What was actually wrong with it? Especially after the Citadel DLC .
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>>693316842
this
is time for you fuckos to just admit, shepard is a weirdo, dragon age origins was peak
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>>693323657
She wrote Guardians of the Galaxy game and people liked the writing in it apparently, so maybe it'll end up okay.
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>>693316020
you can go to steam and report the product.
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>>693317481
no, eat shit
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>>693324270
The entire point of the trilogy is that your choices matter.
me3 completely removes that
Also the only people that played the citadel dlc are subhuman braindead retards, that actually bought dlc after that completely dogshit fuckyou ending with a buy more dlc post credit scene.
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>>693316020
Even ME director hates this shit, what a wonderfull day.
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>>693316020
>Veilguard looks so bad that another team from the company has to step up and say "yeah we're not going to fuck up like that"
How embarrassing.
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>>693325824
Guardians was an actually good movie game. The different choices you could make, and branching level design, showed that it was the deus ex team making it.
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can they please use this aesthetic for the next game?
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>>693325824
I was surprised by how much I liked that game. It's usually the exact kind of game I fucking hate but against all odds it won me over.
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>>693327269
femine penis status?
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>>693327269
So you want MORE trannys?
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>>693327389
as long as it's cute and fun i'm all for it
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>>693327504
Grown men using the word cute is cringe
also no fat chicks allowed
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>>693322931
lol!
do these shills all get a script or is it AI generated?
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>>693320679
the ending is like 1% of the games content you retarded nigger

seethe more, 3 was kino
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>>693327660
I agree unless it's with regard to girls
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>>693327389
As long as they are hot and still have their cocks and balls, I don't see anything wrong with it.
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>>693316020
> We won't be making the same critical error that Veilguard made in changing our graphical style
Of course, because that was the main failing of Veilguard.
Not the writing, and characters, and gameplay, and the obnoxious progressive politics, and the abysmal degree of player agency, and the overall game structure.
No, the real problem is that the game didn't look realistic enough.
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>>693328282
Script, billion dollar corporation will kill you so obey
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Dragon Age is for weirdos
Mass Effect is for normal people
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The hope is that DA:V finally closes Bioware before they can do further damage to the ME franchise. Not sure how much longer they can continue to have their HR department make games.
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Mass Effect at least has had a consistent aesthetic mostly. Dragon Age is genuinely a lost puppy of a franchise that has changed art style/direction with every single entry.
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never bought 3, but I do remember spending a bunch of time in the ME3 multiplayer demo/beta with a friend and having a bunch of fun. It felt like a good balance of gun play and active use skills with low cooldowns that most shooters with abilities never matched. They way same with the inquisition multiplayer.
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>>693316842
The main trilogy is literally the greatest sci-fi series in gaming. Not even 3's lacklustre ending changes this fact. Cope.
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Mass Effect is a more respectable franchise.
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>>693329320
Yeah but if he said all that he’d be out of a job.
This is the best he can do to convey to audiences, “I’m not literally a retarded tranny like that guy over there.”
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>>693330291
ME3 multiplayer had no right being as good as it was.
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Mass Effect 3 irredeemably killed the franchise. Just start a different space adventure franchise at this point.
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>>693316020
It reached Elon Musk so of course they're going maximum damage control.
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>>693328327
No it wasn't you mouth-breathing retard
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>>693324270
>Your choices matter!
>also this was all just a bed time story a grandfather is telling his grandson
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>>693316020
a lot of the original team are back so there's at least a glimmer of hope for the next Mass Effect
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>>693328327
idiot
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>>693330343
Nah, Halo is better.
So is Armored Core
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>>693333018
>>693334221
seethe. i'm due for a replay :)
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>>693316020
Mass effect use to have a retro aesthetic.
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>>693323469
I bought it for a dollar at my local library years ago and still haven't played it. Probably never will.
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>>693316020
They will remove liara's tits and ass and make her troon out somehow, also if you romanced her she will cuck you with another person.
There mass effect 4.
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>>693316020
Their last Mass Effect game is literally known more for the bugs, glitches and memes than the actual game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igxLpVN50Ro
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>>693323469
I have Andromeda, TLOU2, No Man's Sky, Cyber Punk 2077, Fallout 76, and Concord, all on PS4, still wrapped. Gamestop near me just gives them out, if you buy something at the time. I don't even have a PS4/5. lol
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>>693325824
Guardians was pretty good, even had some very soulful moments towards the end.
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>>693317481
I'll apologize when he makes a proper Mass Effect 3
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>>693332287
What did the space man say?
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>>693324270
What's GOOD about it?
It's the fucking laziest shit ever
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>>693316020
Awfully optimistic, I expect BioWare to be completely shutdown early in 2025.
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>>693336332
Funnily enough, but the last mission in Andromeda at least tries to emulate ME2 and acknowledges the shit you've done previously with allies and whatever. I remember reading that some guy had to be brought in from the other team to actually finish that last mission and the game on the whole. At least the gameplay was good.
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>>693316020
It's all well and good to say this, but it's gonna come out and it will be all sorts of fucked up. That's just how it is in 2024.
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>>693169578
the king hath spoken
>imagine DSP falls before trannyware lol
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>Nooo do NOT redeem the game!
MAGAtard seem the ones trying to go full damage control tbph.
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>>693337832
I don't even know how they're still alive after Anthem and Andromeda.
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>>693328282
it's a gently worded suggestion from the EA marketing dept
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>>693337907
it's so odd seeing /pol/ level tinfoil being used by rank and file "leftists"
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>>693340391
they giggle as they post since they can type all the naughty no-no gamer words here
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>>693337907
I'm sure it was that damn MAGA people on /v/ that hated TOR and Inquisition.
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I wonder how many troon characers it will have.
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>>693316020
>He thinks Mass Effect will come out before Bioware's closure
lel
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>>693317481
>locks himself in a room away from the actual writers
>"I DID IT GUYS. I WROTE THE ENDING."
>"Don't you mean endings?"
>"NOPE."
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>>693316020
can I get a qrd on ME? from what I've heard
>1 is great
>2 is great but has a bad ending or something
>rest are shit
is that basically it
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>>693342259
3 is the one with bad ending.
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>>693316842
Being contrarian does not make you interesting.
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>>693316020
So even they know its that bad. Really makes you wonder why they made it like that in the 1st place
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>>693342259
1 is clunky and has a lot of shit that is just tedious and no fun (tons of side quests that are just "go there, drive your little vehicle, go inside a building and kill everyone", the general state of loot and upgrades) but setting, story, characters and environments are great.
2 just ditches everything that didnt work (no more vehicle, shitty side-quests or item progression in general) and improves combat. It also has more but shorter well narrated and designed "real" quests in general.
3 i didnt play after the demo convinced me something is very wrong with barely any dialogue and a strong action-focus.
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>>693316842
The only people I knew who played it were xbox retards who were bad at Halo
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>>693338825
They're not.
The bioware that made baldur's gate, kotor, mass effect, dragon age: origins, all that good shit, they're dead and gone from the industry.
they're working in the craft beer industry or practicing medicine or some shit.
This industry chewed them all up and spat them all out, and all that's left are the blue-haired social media fuckwits who feel "soooo privileged to work with the company that made my FAVORITE games (that I read wikis about and never played)."
Bioware was founded as a medical software dev. The people who founded it were medical grads from Alberta, and those guys have been gone for over a decade. Right around...huh, 2012...what came out in 2012?
>ME3
>SW:TOR
Such utter shit-shows that the leadership bailed, and then two years later, after a couple cancelled projects, they shit out Inquisition.
And from there we see the direction the company is heading in from now on. We go from characters like Leliana as she was in Origins and Merril, to Leliana as she was in Inquisiton, and Sera.
Bioware is dead.
The thing that jutters and twitches while wearing its skin is just EA going all Buffalo Bill on us.
>Would you play me?
>I'd play me.
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>>693342350
3/10 RPG
2/10 cover shooter
7/10 story 5/10 story (1 and 2) -10/10 story
nta but tell me what is so good about mass effect?
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>>693342259
2 is the only good one. 1 is babby's first precursor sci-fi story with weird shooter gameplay melded with KOTOR. 3 is just a bad version of 2, but with fun multiplayer that you can't play anymore.
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>>693323721
Based, same
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>>693337706
its way more funny you actually played that shit.
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>>693317481

I hate him so much even AIM would be like woah dude back off.
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>>693321569
They're going to doubledown on the wokeshit.
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>>693317481
No
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>>693317481
No.
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>>693342259
>1
Great story, but the gameplay is rough
>2
Great gameplay, but the story is rough. The crew interactions are the best the series ever had though.
>3
When the stars themselves die out, entropy reaches its maximum, and nothing can meaningfully happen ever again, he will still be mad.
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>>693316020
God willing, it will never see the light of day.
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>as long as im running it
ah there's that weasel word
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>>693321569
They'd sooner go out of business
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>15-minute long cutscenes of photorealistic badly-written characters arguing about pronouns, instead of 15-minute long cutscenes of cartoony badly-written characters arguing about pronouns
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>>693316020
Doubt there'll be much money to work on another fail project after Failguard.

Good preemtive strike though, even he knows the other game is pathetic.
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Unless ME4 has one writer named Drew Karpyshyn my interest is 0
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>>693347389
I've seen to much at this point to expect anything from them that isn't this.
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>>693347596
It doesn't.
Drew is working with a smaller studio on scifi RPG.
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EA ruined whatever reputation it had with me years ago. This kind of shit is just the shit cherry on the shit sundae.
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>>693347909
I'll never forgive them for defacing the SimCity franchise. That was an unforgivable transgression.
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>>693316842
ME1 was a great though jank game in regards to its combat. Its understandable it was rough around its edges though coming from a company not known for its shooting games and coming from a time when shooters were just starting to break out into a big way with the masses. Its story was top notch as was the lore and exploration despite the use of lots of copy pasting going on. I liked the Mako so fuck you.

ME2 was practically like a whole other series. It raped the lore and seemed like it didn't even want to be a direct sequel of ME1. It changed a lot even in regards to gameplay too. However it definitely plays better as a shooting game and it still managed to carve out its own great story with great characters. I can't fault anyone preferring ME2 over ME1 anymore. I see them both as great. Far superior to what the series did end up becoming.
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Guys, it's illegal to buy reviews, that clearly isnt happening.
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>>693316020
Did you see that lore speculation video based on the ME4 trailer? Basically Liara through some science magic travels to a parallel world where something else dealt with the Reapers and recovers that specific Shepard (and runs another Lazarus project on him off-screen) without dooming another timeline by taking their Shepard.
And that's their way to keep both the trilogy and Andromeda canon.
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>>693318102
Mass Effect's main issue is they rushed the Reapers too fast. They could have milked them as an existential threat for five or six games.
Then you get to Andromeda and you're supposed to be a Pathfinder but everywhere you go has already been settled by people.
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>>693322216
>best series
Wdym best series, it's one game.
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>>693316020
mass effect already did the big head thing
they completely changed the proportions of the characters
dishonest niggerkike
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>>693337832
DSP is literally a gaming god
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>>693327040
Imagine being so fucking dumb that you cared about ME after the abomination that was ME2 and "now go online to take the fight to the reapers!" or whatever that retarded shit was.

ME1 was a barely passable, average space game. I gave 2 a try because you'd think "hey, maybe they'll improve on what was an early console release before people knew what they were doing". Nope. 2 was worse in every single regard. From the switch to thermal clips, the removal of the Mako, the dumbed down combat and comically bad story, the sequel was a downgrade in every possible way, and the ending sequence was an embarrassment.

ME3 was just more of the same. I don't know how you didn't see the downwards trajectory.
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>>693316842
The first was fucking amazing, anything after that was dogshit
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Someone made a video of all the Cringe interactions with the "Trash" character, but EA took it down via Copyright strike: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYzTNy1y7KU

Definitely don't look at or share any of these ahead of their Big Game Launch tomorrow, EA wouldn't want that.

Full 30 minutes (low-res): https://files.catbox.moe/3im089.mp4

"Nobody likes being a woman" (Ultra Cringe): https://streamable.com/amyr4e
"I can't even be a woman right" Parts 1-3: https://streamable.com/gx8dqk https://streamable.com/t9bnv7 https://streamable.com/25xxxz
"Kay Bye" Parts 1-2: https://streamable.com/851l5g https://streamable.com/0bxhw8
"Ready to talk to my mother about who I really am" Parts 1-2: https://streamable.com/baey9r https://streamable.com/and3nd
"So I'm non-binary" (Top Cringe) Parts 1-2: https://streamable.com/3vux4h https://streamable.com/7xzuvf
"The Dragon King" Parts 1-2: https://streamable.com/3s2wso https://streamable.com/4enth1
"Pulling a Bharv" (Giga Cringe) Parts 1-3: https://streamable.com/m3b7rv https://streamable.com/4elqwu https://streamable.com/osj0aw
"You Smell Good": https://streamable.com/jf8cs5
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>>693351870
OMG is that MAKO? Makoing on the empty planets, shooting geth tanks but without killing them, because you wouldn't want that exp penalty. I'm gonna cum from that SOVL overload.
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>>693352640
Mako at least gave you a sense you were exploring planets slightly. ME2 and beyond is just about teleporting to hubs.
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>>693351870
This post answered your concerns preemptively: >>693342350
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>>693350908
No more multiverse and time travel twist pls, I had enough of those two tropes infecting sci-fi stories nowadays.
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>>693352765
>noooo ME was my CHILDHOOD you can't tell me it was just a middling 7/10 game with 2 awful sequels, you can't!
I feel bad for you. It's up there with Bioshock 1, which is less favorably remembered because people actually remembered System Shock 2.

These games aren't terrible, they're just half-finished and missing any depth. People assumed the sequels would improve on this, and instead the sequels were worse in every regard. It's quite a feat to go backwards when you already have a base you can expand on.
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>>693316020
After Mass Effect Andromeda I don't know how people still even care about this series. Especially when they fucked up the remasters. These people not only cannot make games but they are not allow to either with all these consultation companies like Sweet Baby getting in their way. Western gaming is doomed.
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>>693353145
Good games are still made in the west, but you'll only find them in the AA and indie scene where the teams are smaller and there's no corporate interest involved. Less funding obviously, so standout shit comes along rarely.
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>>693326837
it was very obviously clear with ME2 that your choices didnt matter any more
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I'm playing through Legendary Edition for the first time, and am at the end of ME2. Why did everyone recommend I let Jacob take the vents? I know he volunteers but he doesn't have the skillset and even Miranda says he shouldn't do it. Am I just getting trolled into getting a squadmate killed?
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>>693353449
>it was very obviously clear with ME2 that your choices didnt matter any more
Except that you can lose a massive amount of your team if you fuck up, and even in the last mission if you utilise too many noncombatants in certain roles you lose them as well.
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Crazy how long a studio can stay relevant based on the good games they released 15+ years ago. You would think that with their track record from the last decade people would realize they're a different company and stop caring, but the brand power and nostalgia are too strong.
I wonder how young zoomies that don't remember KOTOR, NVN, ME1&2, DA:O feel about them.
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>>693352513
Man
What the fuck man
I knew it was bad, just not that bad
Those dialogues are so fucking reddit with a pinch of twitter that it's painful and incredibly weird to have them in a medieval fantasy setting when it feels like they've been taken from Life is Strange what the fuck
There's really been a "before" and "after" BG3 right?
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>>693316842
Dumbest post I've seen in days
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>>693350908
>Basically Liara through some science magic travels to a parallel world where something else dealt with the Reapers and recovers that specific Shepard
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>>693316842
Faggot contrarian. Mass effect 1 was and still is one of the best sci fi rpgs ever made. The writing and dialogue is milles ahead of the usual slop we get today.

Me2 and me3 are still decent games, mechanically they are superior to 1, but the writing suffered a little.
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>>693330343
Play more good games.
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>>693316020
I legitimately thought ME4 got quietly cancelled at some point.
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Hol up
Is THAT the Trick Weekes writing this shit?
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>>693354552
Yeah IIRC it's about wormhole travel or somesuch.
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>>693317481
I cant my face is too tired for that
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>>693353890
The only decisions that matter in ME2 are decisions made in ME2. They even go as far as killing the Shepard from ME1 and replacing him with a clone before you even take control of that character. Why would you ever possibly think that ME3 would respect ME2 any more than ME2 respected ME1?
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>>693352513
where are the apology pushups
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Mass Effect is that one series that I can't let go. I will try every new entry, and it will hurt every time it's shit.
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>>693317481
>Will you ever apologize?
why would i?



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