Why is attacking your audience so prevalent in video games now?
americans
>>693338827you'll have to be more specific than that
>>693338780Because gamers accepted lootboxes, MTX, live service games, and many other injust practices just fine. Gamers are worse than cattle.
>>693338995I didn't accept that shit. Normies did. I didn't buy Oblivion because of the horse armor.
Big industry, they can afford to attack their audience right now.
>>693339059Normalfags still play video games, and they voted with their wallet.
>>693339096Tell that to the Concord devs.
>>693339096Can they *really* though?
>>693339143Indeed, and it's unfortunate.>>693338901West Coast Americans.
>>693339265Ooh you're getting warmer!
>>693338780Because the industry has been infiltrated by retarded ideologues that see the medium as nothing more than a tool to spread their agenda. The main obstacle in their way of successfully turning the industry into clown level shit like Hollyweird are gamers. This in turn has led them to despising gamers since we can’t be crybullied into letting them just push their bullshit so they do everything to spite us.
>>693338780why is trolling so prevalent on /v/?because people here are subhuman freaks and it's hard not to bully them
>>693338780Do you mean actual antagonism of the player or like seeing a black person in a screenshot?
>>693338780Investors, if your Investor believes you were a victim of a nefarious hate campaign he is less likely to pull out than realising the lack of success was due to utter incompetence.
How about you stop criticizing games and just fucking buy them and play them and they would attack you. You fucking deserve it for thinking you have the right to criticize games.
>>693338780It's all media and not just games.And it's because we're balls deep in the "all media totally has secret messages" illiterate era where some retards decided there was super hidden meaning to every little thing in media and self important fartsniffers who wanted to feel important let their ego be fluffed by the meaningless shit they put in their books/shows/etc.
>>693340163By that logic you don't have the right to praise a game you haven't played either.
>>693340163>just buy it piggyJesu Christ
>>693340315>>693340334Fuck off, incels.
>>693340430>tranny throwing a tantrumHave you come up for your copes when failhard flops?
>>693340334I can't take this guy seriously after he liked Deadpool vs. Wolverine.
>>693338780It signals the approved targets to the corporate bootlickers
>>693338780Are you gonna present any kind of an argument or should I just assume you're literally retarded?
>>693340430Just buy the games. Be better. Lol
>>693338780It's been like that since like shortly before Gamer Gate.
Because they know better.
>>693340703Yup. I remember gamers being called entitled after the ME3 ending fiasco.
>>693338901jews
>>693340535Okay but what does that have to do with the sentiment?
Penny Arcade is unironic cancer for mocking the outrage surrending the lack of dedicated servers in Modern Warfare 2.>As to why they want to create their own matchmaking network in the first place, the ability to make money selling maps is floated as a reason, and it makes a lot of sense - presumably they would rather make a million dollars than zero. A centralized defense against piracy is also suggested, and things tend to go downhill quick after this. It is not a mischaracterization to say that conversations with the hardcore PC community about software theft follow these tenets:>>There is no piracy.>>To the extent that piracy exists, which it doesn’t, it’s your fault.>>If you try to protect your game, we’ll steal it as a matter of principle.>It’s like, who wouldn’t want to bend over backward in their service? You need to know it, because nobody else is going to tell you: you guys sound like Goddamned subway vagrants. Of course when you speak exclusively to each other, it all sounds so reasonable. It’ll be reasonable when you all board the bus, and the songs you sing en route to excoriate your enemies will be forceful, but within reason; and when you douse yourself with gasoline and immolate yourself in front of the offices of Infinity Ward, one assumes this will be reasonable also.>https://www.penny-arcade.com/news/post/2009/10/26/babicide
>>693340567I'm assuming "video games attacking their audience" actual means "some bullshit on twitter"
>>693340989He's not above the consoomers he criticizes.
>>693338780>now
>>693341051Surely there is more recent shit to be mad at than 2009 PA lol
>>693341230I don't care.
>>693338780some devs are too focused on making games for themselves. however putting a nb or trans character in a game doesn't automatically make it bad like /v/ says
It's not, you just have a victim complex.
i cant remember the last time i played a game that did this
What's up with all of the bot replies? They're not even remotely on topic.
>>693339096No, they thought they could when they started developing these games 7 years ago, and it's too late now so they need to stay the course. They probably figured out it was never going to fly 4 years into development, and they would prefer a bad failure they can list as a tax loss than just scrapping the game entirely, as making a poor business decision and wasting four years isn't deductible, but completing a game and nobody buying it is.
>>693341118So ad hominem then? Because ultimately you’re not arguing the logic.
>>693338827Obsessed Jew.
>>693341051sounds like he is just describing you and that makes you mad, which is clearly the case because you brought up this beef nearly unprovoked.
>>693341772You need some level of coherence if you want people to take the shit (You) say seriously.
>>6933387802016 turned all the americans into /pol/ garbos
>>693341792It's just a relatively early example of journos attacking gamers who raised good points. His shilling was one of the many things that enabled this wonderful world of GaaS cancer. I hope he's enjoying it.
>>693339360Californians
>>693338780They don't want people to enjoy the hobby
>>693341867You have no argument for how he’s wrong and just attacked him instead. Thats is a logical fallacy known as ad hominem. If you can’t see the coherence in that then you have a severe lack of reading comprehension.
>>693341389actually it does you stupid fucking faggot
>>693342252He's right, and he's also a faggot whom I can't take seriously.
>>693338780play better games
>>693338780Gamer Gate.
>>693342371Okay, that settles it then.
>>693338780You don't play games anymoreThe games play you
>>693338780Because devs found out retards will still buy utter pieces of shit specifically made to berate and insult them, on top of giving it massive public attention by talking about it nonstop for weeks on end. We live in an era where outrage sells more than positive attention.
>>693340567>present any kind of an argumentThis guy thinks he’s fuckin socrates finna boutta disprove some chuds lmao
>>693338780What makes you think that "white nationalist neo-nazis" are the target audience for every single video game on the market?
>>693338780because (((they))) want to ruin vidya like (((they))) ruined movies and comics, eliminating and excluding anyone who's not consumerist goycattle.basically the industry is like a greedy racehorse that wants to eat all day and get trophies without racing or exercising.
>>693338995>hobby gets flooded by hordes of mouthbreathers without standards>put everyone in the same bag and blame everyone, instead of pointing at the mouthbreatherslike pottery>>693339143voting with your wallet is a meme. corpos give you the choice between buying shit chock-full of predatory practices and not getting any more games. good games are never an option
>>693338995This, gamers get on all fours and present theyre quivering boipuccis, Corporations would be mad not to fuck them deep.
>>693338780Americans. They believe they are entitled to your money. So when you dont buy, it's your fault - too poor, too stupid, reactionary, racist, fascist, communist, etc.
>>693338780Trannies
Games are infested with Kathleen Turners: old skanks on their periods who hate men and by extention all male things.
>>693342327I played Morrowind and everything was fine there. Cope. Your kin no longer can write good games. Even if they are white.
>>693338827this>>693338901no
I haven't bought a video game license in 8 years. 99% of games hold no value for me other than mocking them and reassuring my conviction that modern games are complete dogshit. The other 1% I pirate, because the hobby as a whole is so poisoned that I'm too demoralized to want to invest money into it any more.
>>693338780because its cheaper & easier to just pay marketing to gaslight people on social media into liking a shit game, than it is to just actually make a good game. remember the industry is 90% staffed with normie corporate retards now.
>>693340163>and just fucking buy themmake something worth buying firstthere's been nothing good since Deep Rock Galactic and that came out almost 7 years ago
>>693338780>Why is attacking your audience so prevalent in video games now?Because the people making them have spite instead of passion.
Retarded self centered californian devs thinking anyone who doesnt agree with them must be a nazi and thus a socially acceptable target.They honestly believe their game will survive on good faith from other people like them.
>>693338780It's called browbeating
>>693347262>voting with your wallet is a memeit worked against concord
>>693338780Because some developers had to justify themselves in the 90s/00s. Nu-devs saw that and thought they could jump ahead of the attacks and blatantly kick people in the balls before anyone had the chance to criticise them. It's victim mentally.
>>693338780doesnt help when the audience are racist, homophobic, sex-obsessed, entitled manchildren
>>693350892Stop being an activist, you're not 20 and it's not the 60s.
Give me 8 examples of games that did this.Only two that to mind are that Saints Row reboot that immediately died and killed the studio along with it, and there's also DmC which also failed and was immediately memory holed as soon as DMCV came out.Otherwise I can't think of
Because hiring people who hate the game to make the game (especially for sequels) is the popular thing to do.
>>693350945Concord.
>>693350945you can throw wow on the list with their facebook ads for dragonflight. i have the webms of a couple but havent swapped shit to my new pc yet
>>693338827*marxist jewish ratsGames used to be based just 20 years ago.
>>693350981But that was specifically attacking people that weren't their audience. Problem was that the game's audience was only 0.001% of people that play vidya.
Imagine defending any western game developer. >Oh, they change their twitter profile pic to a rainbow version of it once a year!>They're my friends!
>>693350945mighty number 9
>>69335115650% isn't enough tranny suicides.
>>693350945I mean, you could also extend this to game journos who run damage control for certain games and studios. They're constantly attacking the audience.
>>693339096disney thought that oo
>>693350892>doesnt help when the audience are racist, homophobic, sex-obsessed, entitled manchildrenThey are not the audience. There is no audience.
>>693351216Indeed.
>>693351216We can get bigger numbers than this
>>693350945Any game that censors boobs