Did you know? Skull Servants normally weak but they could mean trouble in great numbers in Master Duel
>>693339373Purrely Mating Memory
Das real spookytoo bad skull servants arent the event deck
>>693339373Wightsworn lets you mill 5 from one foolish burial. It's LITERALLY as good as Kitkallos
>Face-down monsters can be used for Tribute/Fusion/Ritual summons, but not for Synchro/Xyz/Link summonsBoomer privilege
No Lab trannies are allowed in this thread (or any trannies for that matter) after this post. no exceptions.
>>693339525They aren't?
halloween surprise in 1 hour
>>693339373
>>693339936HOLY...I KNEEL
FREE HER...?
>>693341312Fine, she's freed. Now please die.
>>693341161I hate that this whole storyline about the king of the skull servants leading a rebelion on Valerdroch will be relegated to the Yugioh nobody likes
>>693339373>Last day before reset >Decide to do some late night dueling >Manage to climb from Diamond III to I>Literally one game away from Master V>Am I really going to make it?>Turn 1 Purrely who plays through my limited hand traps followed by a suddenl losing streak that knocks me back down to Diamond IIThis game can honestly be so infuriating
>>693341497Unless you like to see a nice unbroken string of gold Ms you can always copium knowing that starting next season at Plat 5 will net you more total gems than going to M5 and then deranking to D5
>>693341485Yeah, except Rush Duels won.
>>693341497>noooo you're too stupid to leave platinum it's so fun up he-
>>693341571I actually just returned to the game after a lengthy absence so I climbed all the way from Rookie this month. Racked in some major gems, but was unfortunately unaware of the returning player campaign.
>>693341312NEVER...?
Is double Colossus a better board than Baronne + Colossus?
>>693339634>Wightlord instead of Wightsworn>Mucharmy Fuwalos instead of Floowonderous & MulcharmyWhy is the TCG so souless?
>>693342163One of many symptoms of having a full diaper as adults.
>>693341575Lmao. I still remember when this shitty image was used as the thread OP and it was instantly nuked.
>>693341916I doubt it
So Spell/Resonance (Vaalmonica)/Bushido (Six Sam) counters are the only ones that get removed if you negate the card they're on, regardless if they were placed by that card itself or another, right?
>>693342749Winners tend to invite haters.
>>693342935Because being able to hold those counters is part of effect.
>>693342935I think the problem is that "Spell Counters" and "Resonance Counter" and "Six Samurai Counters" is that they can only be put on certain specific cards, so if you negate the card they lose the ability to hold those counters. Other counters, like Preda Counters and A Counters and Venom Counters and Fog Counters can be put on ANY card, and the card doesn't need to have the ability to hold them I don't think there's any indicator of any kind to tell you a counter type works one way or the other, though, it seems like you just kind of have to arbitrarily know
ugh finally some more rank 10 slop kino
Armor EXE retrain when
>>693343495Yubel support!!!
>>693343040A nuked thread usually means you lost but I respect your commitment to this trope. I could never be an advocate for a dead format.
>>693343301>>693342935I found the relevant rules.It seems the key here is a card placing counters on a specific card only, usually itself, then negating it removes the counters. But in cases where the card the token is put on isn't specified, then negating it doesn't remove it. Or something like that
Why can't I call by lancea?
Reminder to follow the official guide.
>>693343834damage step
>Pendulumgraph dodge.>Still get removed because fuck youPeople never learn.
>>693343858>2023Nigga
AA-ZEUS - Monster Figure Collection - Plamax11,800 YenReleases 07/2025https://kaiba-corp.com/series/ocg/detail.php?goods_id=1092
>>693343976that shit is good till 2026, nothing changed
>>693344073>nothing changedNigga
I kinda wanna make a deck centered on zombie world. Not necessarily a zombie deck, just something that can use zombie world. I mostly wanna use it as an anti-meta tech against shit like yubel (who only wants fiends), tear (who only wants aqua), Tenpai (who only wants dragons) and so on. I don't really care what the deck is that much, as long as it can effectively use zombie world. What do people recommend?
>>693343647where is your picture from?
>wake up>play one game>win the coin flip>send the opponent to go first>it’s a mikanko>droll them on their Preparation of Rites>they pass>normal summon PaidraToday was a good day.
>>693344197tearlamentyou mill banshee and trigger zombie world anytime you want.you can also turn your tear name into recycle any monster using draconecro/garura (will be better when we get spectral duke or something that give you extra summon). heck banshee and zombie world was side deck option during tear 0 format to cuck unprepared tear mirror
>>693344197Some kind of Horus slop maybe. They often like to run stun and other anti meta cards, you can search zombie world with rainbow bridge or banshee. Might be Shinobi Necro lines for synchro plays like other zombie decks do.
>>693344206I took it from thishttps://ygorganization.com/perfectrulebook/Not exactly an official source but should be accurate
>>693344316bitch whore prostitute archetype when
>>693344373>>693344197If you're playing Zombie World deck you should be playing balerdroch. The effects are pretty useful
>>693344373>want to use zombie world to cuck tear>the best deck to do that?>tearI don't know if that's hilarious or tragic. High power level decks can just do whatever the fuck they want, huh? I don't have grass is greener so I can't be super assed with tear, although this is like the third time I've been told the deck idea I have becomes viable by playing tear so maybe I should really start considering it. That being said, I'm worried they'll continue getting banlist hits and lose all consistency yanno?Well fine, what would be better? Using my gems now and pulling on the tear secret pack or saving for Melodious to use as an engine in other decks?
>>693344197Literally anything that can reliably send banshee to the gy will do.Zombie decks themselves often run immortal dragon, who's a completely generic synchro monster that can do it. There's also beatrice if you can make rank 6s.Don't listen to the retards saying shit like tear. In such a deck you're just gambling on getting banshee into the gy. In that case you might as well run even more impactful stuff like rollback + mayakashi trap and just gamble on getting them into the gy.
>>693344670If you don't want to build tear you can also just play zombie goodstuff pile and it's still pretty decent. The biggest problem with zombie is that it's overly reliant on its normal summon not getting negated. If Uni-Zombie or Gozuki resolves, then you basically just combo off like crazy, but if they have imperm or veiler and you dont' just randomly happen to have an extender you're shit out of luck That's the main reason people play them with other engines so much. With Tear, or Horus, or Kashtira, or PUNK, you can get some more materials off to keep playing
How the fuck do I play this unchained deck?
>>693344917wait, let me lab out some combos to figure it out myself.I swear this is such a strange build
>>693344917you don'tyou play zombies like a real Chad
>>693344917>>693345021Didn't the event end already?Anyway, you just win the coin toss, take long to read your cards, and your opponent scoops.If you lose the coin toss, you scoop.
>>693345125based stall chud
>Duel Live>Centurion: Set 3, Field Spell, 2 monsters in back>RDA: Red Zone, Crimson Gaia, Regained and 2 setsField Spells are stupid unfair just because they have their own zone so it frees up the S/T slots for more disruption. I'm pretty sure that Resonator playe had to choose between Called by, Imperm and Fiendish Golem because he couldn't set 3 cards.
>stopped playing for almost a year>gem starved>packs being bullshit and giving 1 or 0 URs per 10 I'm ngmi....
>>693344917Use either of the level 8s to break your opponent's board, if they commit to a Link-2 Soul of Disaster will steal it to make Anguish
Master Duel just updated on steam , and the new icon features Gandora Dragon. possible gold sac pack coming next?
Go ahead and make that board.
>>693344878Urgh, I already play a few decks that rely on normal summons so that's kind of a huge turn off.>>693344460Yeah it sounds like the only usable engine I have is Horus. Unfortunately I don't have all the pieces, I have one of each instead of 3 Imsety and 3 Gold Sarc. I'll have to suck it up and craft them I guess.>>693344821>>693344643Good cards to consider, I'll need to see what I can find and what's viable for me. It sounds like the way to go is zombie goodstuff/slop? Now that I think about it, what's the endboard for that like anyway?
>>693345285Damn. I can't remember what issue I had with Supreme King. It seemed good until someone mentioned a key issue and it turned me off it a lot, but I don't remember what it is. Is the deck really inconsistent or something?
>>693345309bro DO NOT play zombies. everyone telling you to play zombies is a permagold shitter. it doesn't matter what engines you mix it with you WILL lose every single duel and you WILL regret ever having wasted your dust and gems.
>>693343858>Verre coochie Interesting >DMG thighs Good so far>Sera coochieAbout damn time
>>693345401Pends lack 1 card starters, aside vaylantz, but get get insta locked onto ED monsters.
Most of the value of Black Goat seems to be that it can survive an HFD and still disrupt Tenpai, but only if they don't have both kaimen and chundra.In all other cases it feels like a third copy of Super Poly would be as if not more effective.
>>693345556r*tard
>>693345423I see, is there anything else that can use zombie world? Or should I give up on the idea?
>>693345647Tenpai can search Zombie World turn 1, doesn't mean they want to
Finally got M1 with shitter pauper Yubel! Now I never have to bother again and can go back to fun things like Mankos!!!Did almost choke it though, first one had perfect setup only to run into the perfect T2 counter where they had just the right sequence to TTT appo and get a fourmat zeus out even after clearing her. Malded hard but then the next at-bat had them scoop on a single DBB summon even though the rest of the hand was all unchained bricks and ashes so it all worked out.
>>693339373Skull Servant theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rILpmAE23hQ
Did they change the way boost generate works again? Now it's not 'select x to make', it just makes until you get what you want. Very dank
>>693346072You get a cool animation of the card being fused into being when it succeeds too. Very satisfying
>>693345250>game updates>nothing changes in gameso what even was that 1gb update?
>they finally added the ability to see what cards are in your deck during a duelwow, only took 3 fucking years.
>>693346208legal cheating and legal leak. here we goooo!
>>693346184>>693346208>>693346072>>693346178Looks like a bunch of QoL stuff. Actually kinda excited, hoping patchnotes drop before bed just to see what all's there.
>>693346208wait what?
>>693339373There’s only room for one king
>>693346184Core update. Leaks are back on the menu.
>biggest complaint about replays is the small number you can hold at a time>"hmm...how about an option to automatically delete the oldest one?"sasuga konami, you guys are the best at not actually addressing problems.
>>693345250>>693346184this >>693341060
Can someone dagunity pill me real quick?
>>693346184The following updates have been made:- A function has been added that allows you to check your deck during duels.- The Disassembly Protection function has been added to the deck edit.- The card Boost Generate function has been enhanced.- The function for saving replays has been improved.- Card activation effects during a duel have been added.- The UI for various functions has been improved.- Other bugs have been fixed.
>>693346304I bet you still can't organize decks
>>693346535The REAL Red-Eyes Black Dragon...
>>693346563no but um.....you can see who won the coin toss in replays now
i had a really HECKED up bros basically i was being chased by an evil witch in the woods (not the sexy kinds the green ugly hag kind)and when she caught me it did a final fantasy screen transition and we swapped to a bootleg master duel setup and we're dueling now for my life.the strange thing is this card game had a "class system" for each player and the rules changed depending on what class you playshe played the "wizard" class which meant she used a mana system and could mulligan her hand i played the "duelist" class which is basically ygo rules and i didn't have to pay mana costs at all (how this was balanced) but i couldn't mulligan or draw on my first hand basically meaning i had to play all GAS GAS unga otk with my robot dragons vs her generic fantasy witch deckI woke up before i could win
>>693346695Which final fantasy anon? One of those PS1-era swirlies, the FFX screen shatter, the SNES white flashes?
>>693346695I bet she rage quit
>>693346695>I woke up before i could winlike joey wheeler but in reverse
>>693346695lmao you were playing gate ruler a real card game
>>693346769yeah the ps1 ff7 transition>>693346819explain
>>693346535So I guess it's shining sarcophagus in the next pack.
>>693346508Call me crazy but for some reason I think Konami wants to genuinely EOS master duel so people go back to playing paperThere hasn't been a single significant update since release
>>693345556black goat is GOAT discard fodder for decks that desperately need it like labyrinth - one of the main copes for the non-rollback variants was that with rollback as your only gy effect it was worthless to dump shit to the gy outside of theme and it would be better to stick to the usual supportit also works as disruption going second when used this way
>>693346954Gate Ruler is a card game where the main gimmick is the "ruler" system and is basically a class system like you described with each one being "inspired" by a different way of playing a card game with different rules and deckbuilding restrictions for each one so you can play bootleg mtg vs bootleg ygo
>>693347153I thought we agreed not mentioning lab at all last thread
>>693345823Sounds like my zombie world dreams die here, what a shame. Ah well, it is what it is.I have a bunch of icejade cards, are they any good? I'm somewhat aware that their main gimmick is a skill drain that only kicks in the turn after an opponent's monster is summoned but like, how do they survive long enough to keep that skill drain alive and not just get OTK'd on turn 2? Plus, is that even a viable gameplan in today's meta? Yubel and Snake Eyes/Fire King recycle themselves through the graveyard constantly, so they're always on their first turn of summoning. Do they evenncare about icejade's gimmick?
>>693347585Icejade is pretty bad.
RELEASE THE DECK
>>693347226I decided to finally open two sets of that one expiring selection for Bestial stuffs and got 1x big welcome and 2x welcome forced on me alongside the lubellion. Am I being groomed???
>>693347624Damn. Fuck. Am I really juat supposed to wait for fiendsmith then? I'm aware that shinjng sarc is like, good for an anime deck and decent for casuals but will get raped in ladder so I'm not super hyped for it or anything. I've heard very mixed things about melodius and I'm not sure if they're worth bothering with either
>>693345401This horse shit ruins you instantly if you're going second. Along with D.Barrier
>>693346361But if you have 3 Kings on the field, then you'd have 3x the BIG NUMBER while only loosing 2000 from said Big Number.
>>693346072Boost was very jank and was simply a way to brute force the finish anyway. The new QoL doesn't change the N/R stacking method, you just go for broke after setup.
I like the quirky Pokemon Pocket card art. Should I pick this game up? HIS site has the decks so all I need to do is download and play. Master Duel is boring.
>>693347790The art was always pokemon TCG's greatest strength, they had a great blend of artists early on. The clay model ones were always my fav
>>693347790PP is not competitive, you could just collect the cards and duel here and there but it's not the main focus of that game.
>>693347790>e-celeb cocksucker>brings pokemon out of nowhereyes please just fuck off so we don't have to deal with your gay ass being around anymore
>>693347738Wait, do anti spell cards affect pend scales? I'm never 100% clear if they're spells or monsters that pretend to be spells or what. Now that I think about it, does anti spell fragrance work against snake eye monsters acting as spells? Or Imperial Order or whatever the No Traps Allowed card is on Centurion?
>>693347771Does this mean I have to generate 3 again over and over
Don't designate is such a good idea but the implementation is awfulI want the do not designate cards to be hidden, like an actual cards you can't dismantle, not still there with just a lock symbol on them
>>693347847>cock sucker>"...so we don't have to deal with your gay ass"tell us how you really feel anon
>>693347585you know what to do. dump banshee to gyjust find whatever you like. be it tear, branded fusion, isolde + armageddon knight, lab metaverse, or anything you can think of.
>>693347970yeah
>>693347998>no u!every single timei wasn't the one who started talking about e-celebs first, you fucking faggot
>>693348039fuck
>>693348065>no uI didn't bring up dicks anon, you did. But if you'll miss me that much, I guess I can stay for a bit longer. No funny business.
>>693348034...I actually don't know what to do, sorry. Doesn't banshee only search and activate zombie world? Where are these other cards coming from? How is Banshee searchijg for branded fusion?
if not obvious enough from gandora
>>693347637Terahertz cock sleeve
>>693347585Icejade rarely manages to pull off the Kosmolock because it requires 3 cards on field and you must draw at least 2 of them plus a searcher. The deck is actually just L10 synchro turbo, usually Water synchros due to Ran Aegirine's restriction on her usage. The boss Gymir Aegirine is actually an excellent monster and so is her intended starter (Ran) but they're more commonly run as generic extenders/extra protection in other water decks.I play Icejades, they served me well in the Duel Triangle.
>>693348137>i didn't bring up dicks>but boy do i love talking about my e-celeb daddy! i love him so much its unreal!
>>693348147you play branded fusion to send albaz + banshee, then use lubelion + albaz into mirrorjade while banshee stay in gy and procable anytime you wantthis is old combo from branded zombie btw
>>693347790watching it looked frusterating, a shit load of coinflips and it's mana ramp up
>>693347790this same art has been used for the Slowpoke card in many sets for over 20 yearsI have the original card irl
>>693348285show me where did that anon mentioned dick
>>693348285Don't get any ideas anon. All I said was "HIS site".I already agreed to hang out here a bit more but keep your hands where I can see 'em. Not sure why you're upset. We are not friends.
>>693348312I suppose my problem is that I don't run any decks that search generically like this, so nothing really came to mind. Like the only way I can get Banshee in thr graveyard with my current decks would be to normal summon her and then special summon on top of her? The closest to generic I have is ""go search a fish" with Ghoti...
>>693348170that's the wrong gandora thoughbeit
>>693348441>All I said was "HIS site".why are you such a disingenuous little faggot?
>>693348375>show me dicksgo back to your board and find them yourself faggot >>>/lgbt/
>>693348526Yes, all I said was "HIS site". You can read it for yourself. I didn't delete the post. >>693347790This is why you're not my friend. Go sit alone.
>>693348570KEKxhe can't handle xer own medicine >>693348441
Purrely Sexy Memory
>>693348503but there gonna put it in the pack as filler, and this way they don't "leak" the pack itself.
God Shining Sarc is peak dogshit boomer pandering trash
>>693348807>INFOI'm got feeling so good
>>693348807how playable is it?seeing how garbage earthbound, gate guardian, and other boomer shit came out I am not hopeful about it
>>693348638HE/HIM evokes positive emotions in some. It evokes hostility and hatred in others. Mind you, this is with the name diluted for commoners. Imagine the irreparable damage if we used HIS name at full strength.
>>693348969
>>693349039I could unironically build a zombie deck and add these two cards in it for the memes.
>>693348969>Imagine the irreparable damage if we used HIS name at full strength.tell me then. will the hocruxes win?
There is only 1 way to save the 1000 day anniversary pack from being skippable (outside of Millennium but that would be too good)
>>693348969Who, Dkayed? Who gives a shit, this isn't /mdg/. Fuck it, maybe we should say Dkayed more to help gatekeep the cancer we keep finding ourselves in with these threads recently. Now that he's lost his leak source, who gives a single shit about Dkayed anyway?
>>693349039I got this as a Shonen Jump promo back in the day and it always bothered me that his hanging bandages are at different angles. Are they just crusty and stiff?
>>693349135Their locations are unknown. Not even Konami knows where they are. I only know of 3 hocruxes: >HIS shirt woven of pure darkness cloth>HIS glasses (which HE broke once and lost some power momentarily)>HIS red solo cup of potions>>693349270You poor fool. Send not to know for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee.
Dkayed cocksucking roleplay aside, what is likely to be included in Fiendsmith's selection pack?
>you get yugioh 9 master duel anime*a finger curls on the monkey's paw*>but the main protag is a wahmen
>>693349248If they unban Dragoon, then I'm rolling Gold Sarc.
>>693349612>she plays Sky Strikers>anime focuses only on marketable waifu decks
>>693349612How would you adapt master duel specifically as an anime? It might be kinda cool to see protags of different seasons again since master duel has everything minus rush, but the idea's already been done before too.
>>693349535Fiendsmith isn't coming next pack, idiot.
>>693349612She better have large breasts and play lab
>>693349753>girls only ygoI dunno that might be kinda based. Especially if it leads to more support for shitty waifu decks like Amazon, Harpies, Witchcrafter and so on.
>>693349791But what is likely to be included in Fiendsmith's selection pack?
>>693348807>MOST ICONIC MONSTERS AREN'T ALLOWED TO BE GOOD BECAUSE.... BECAUSE WE NEED MORE FUCKING GENERIC ANIME WOMEN!The only downside is that boomer pandering cards aren't Meta
>master duel animeWe already have "animations". You want more!?
>>693349942i don't understand why they can't hire some team to make actual animations for the cards. they literally already did it for duel links and cross duel.
>>693348876Millennium is the "meta" boomer archetype, at least before we get Blue-Eyes SD support. The engine was actually somewhat common in some decks before Fiendsmith was whored out by everybody.
>>693350010Okay but imagine watching combo slop and its twice as long because of all the extra animations
>>693341497I was seething all day because I could not break into Master I, I kept getting bullshit hands and deranked all the way to Master V only breaking into Master III again and getting Tenapi niggers with perfect hands in a row when I was about to enter Master II again.Everybody simply got Imperm glued to their hands and I do not ever see more than one handtrap even when I am running the same ratios as everyone else.My easiest climb was, with all things, Runick. Something about Runick makes people want to kill themselves even when the interactions are not great, shout out to the retard on Monarch, march on brave little soldier.
>>693349762It's weird how little Yugioh has in terms of actual stakes for "competition" Yugioh can be a fantastic melodrama about the nature of trying to be the best duelist with a real down to earth take on the actual feeling one might have on a tournament. Akin to a 3-gatsu no lion or a Hikaru no GoBut that might accidently make Yugioh come out in a bad light so the braindead exec's would never approve it
>>693350238options > card animations > off
>>693350010because you're fucking stupid the current animations are all right for the current pace of the game. I don't want to watch a duel links 30 seconds animation for every single boss monster I happen to go through for every combo>but you can just disable the animations!!!which means that your suggestion is fucking worthless. The current setup works fine.
They should really do a skull dog retrain to add him to the archetype
>Ganadora instead of BEWDBEWD bros, is it over?
>>693349860https://www.yugioh-card.com/japan/products/info/
>>693350394link 1 never, master duel has fallen, billions must scoop.
>>693350278If you turn card animations off then the game is fine as is.
>>693350303the current animations actively slow the game down already. even if you say it's "an alright pace" it's still undeniably better to disable them completely if you want the fastest game experience. better animations taking longer is irrelevant. if you want the game to move quickly you should have animations disabled completely. saying "i can handle 5 seconds of animation, but not 15!" is silly. you're wasting your time either way. you might as well opt for your time being wasted by a visually appealing animation.
>>693347114are you stupid, or just a contrarian for the sake of it? this QoL update is great, the fuck do you mean a significant update release, tenpai was released literally a few weeks ago, insufferable faggot.
>>693350631you're fucking retardedif you want your stupid ass time wasting animations fuck off back to duel links
>>693350427Then I hope its exodia so i can get a 2 for 1 deal.
puppet when? can't wait to FTK tenpaitards
>Konami unironically thought this was fineSomeone on the design team got bullied by stun too many times, too bad the fucking thing carries every hand trap under the sun.
>>693350875>Someone on the design team got bullied by stun too many times,how do you know?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLemAKwwsuM
>>693350619"if you can turn the audio off then there's no reason to add music". the whole point is that the animations are there for people who like to look at them and not there for people who don't. >>693350704explain exactly what part of my post is retarded. i'm simply stating the facts. you're actively wasting time already looking at any animations. you can claim whatever amount of seconds you want as a threshold for "acceptability" but at the end of the day you're always playing a slower version of the game by having animations enabled.you cannot make a genuine argument against longer animations if your basis for disapproval is how they will affect the game's pace.
>>693350875they can run shifter?
>>693350875>Despite every stun card being banned, Stun players continue transitioned to paleo to continue cucking konami devsStun players will mind break the devs until they make a rotational format
>>693350619I don't like time wasting animationswhy do I have to argue this position as if it's some kind of genuine issue like politics or economics? >I don't like duel links-tier animations therefore your suggestion sucks>B-BUT YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN YOUR POSITION HURRRRRRR>I don't like them>BUT THE ANIMATIONS ALREADY WASTE TIME HURRRR>I don't like duel links animations either wayIf you want to keep up this retarded argument you're simply reinforcing the idea that you're the retarded one instead of solely your dumb idea
reminder its duelist cup next month so pack it up gays
>>693351421meant for >>693350994
>>693351036I see shit like this and I can imagine bricking 4 out of 5 games
>>693351036Paleo players are special snowflakes and Josh dick riders Stun players likely moved to Tenpai.
>the schizo doesn't want anime cutscenes in duelsWhat a faggot. This looks great lol
>>693351463I am on Master and it was insufferable until the very the end when I had fun with Runick.Quitting this game until rank down to Bronze. I already have the base to build White Forest and I would only need the Fiendsmith cards.
>>693351578the duel links animation looks better for it unironically
>>693351660I would open Adobe and make a webm for it but I'm tired
It's a shame that anime characters are more popular than card monsters in terms of fan art. Otherwise I'd do more shit like this
>>693344316would play fiendsmith for this bitch
>>693351421if you don't like long animations then you can disable them. that is what i already said in the first place and you countered by acting as though the ability to disable them invalidated them and then making a point about the current pacing being acceptable, hence my next post addressing these points to which you replied by calling me retarded.please make an effort to keep up with our conversation. currently i am asking that you explain what about my previous post was retarded, not to re-state a point which we have already addressed.
>>693351581>Fiendsmith That meta is cancer, I heard alot of cardboard eaters quitted the weekly official tourney. They are self-organizing edison tourney instead.
>it's another episode of "opponent trying to use TY-PHON to spin my backrow when I have no monsters left -> Connection Failed"always funny
I was playing against tenpai just now. Droplet, lightning storm for front row, lightning storm for back row. And all I could think of was how much I hate the fucking Marincess deck. God I fucking hate marincess. Why? It's because it's not fair. Why is the water attribute the only one that gets to summon straight to the hand, while everyone else can only summon from the hand? Even in the anime they say how unfair this is, how it's not fair for anyone else, but do they change it? Do they even acknowledge that it's an issue? No, of course not.God, it makes me so angry, I want to break my tablet and throw it into the garbage. This fucking deck has won me countless games in ranked and the only thing I can do is cry to the sky and beg the lord of light why he cursed us by making a deck so overpowered it's impossible to win against it. I bet you anything the devs made this deck to sell more cards and make everyone else suffer. God, I want to break their legs so bad. I just want to go to japan and beat the shit out of everyone in charge of making these god-damn cards.Why are you like this? Because fuck you, that's why. I will rant about the marincess deck if I want to. It is the best and the strongest, and if you think you can tell me what to do, you can eat my entire ass.God, it pisses me off. I hate this fucking game. If you don't like it, then stop playing, bitch. You are not the boss of me. If you don't like the fact that the marincess deck is so goddamn op, then go fuck yourself.
Trigger Warninghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5S_FRtAh-E
>>693352428is this a copypasta?
>>693352483"Is this copy pasta? Is this pasta? There's no way this is real" blah blah blah go fuck yourself. If you don't want me to rant about the marincess deck, then go fucking play a different card game, you fucking bitch. I will rant about how the marincess deck is better than everyone else's deck if I fucking want to, and there's nothing you can do about it. You're just a fucking pussy who can't deal with the fact that someone's deck is stronger than yours. So shut the fuck up and suck my dick, you fucking asshole.
>>693352253Funny how 9 times out of 10 Typhoon is just a fancier way to hit the surrender button.
>>693352467Listen, I don't wanna be the kind of insecure faggot who goes "urgh cringe ugh cringe I'm so cool because I don't like anything" but that really was kind of a fucking nothing video.
1 card combo starter + 23 handtraps in your deckhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK3Evw7SBX8
So who is stronger? Fiendsmith Engine or Tenpai?
>>693352841fiendsmithyour handtraps can only go so far against fiendsmith if you have to pick going 2nd
>>693353120raigeki? droplet? they can comeback even if you clear their board?
>>693352620TCG disapproves this
>>693353174fiendsmith recycle your ED fiendsmith just by breathing
>>693352553brother in christ you are complaining about decks being unfair while you're running tenpai
>>693351036https://youtu.be/VzHG_LLcP-A?si=NpohkxLgvb6EIfNDSame deck he used here
>>693344294If you are on Plat you might have just fought me because I was playing Mikanko a few hours ago lolI played prep and got drolled, literally nothing in hand that I can even summon (bunch of equips and the mikanko trap). Saw the paidra and left. Then again mikanko acid golem lock is trending due to ken & gen so it might just be a coincidence
>I'm playing vaal>opponent activates Photo Sactuary, which summons 2 tokens with 2000 ATK>I know he has Galaxy Eyes Photon Dragon in hand, he revealed it while using Slash Draw>Since I'm playing Vaal, the demon one makes opponent monsters lose ATK for every counter i have>I had 4 counters, so the tokens lose 400 ATK. Which means they no longer have 2000 ATK>Opponent was still able to special summon photon dragon by tributing 2 monsters with 2000 or more ATK, despite them actually having 1600 ATKWhat the fuck?
>>693353617Damn ygo players really can't read shit
>brick hard with Ash, 2 Imperm, and 2 Escape of the Unchained trying to do my destroy daily with pure Unchained>set 2 Imperm and 1 Escape and pass>opponent concedes>it was a fully loaded Tenpai decklist in Gold 1Did he get mindbroken by too many Lab/Stun/Paleo decks or something?
>>693354067probably drew 6 handtraps and doesn't know what to do without normal summon paidra
I was building dragonslop with They/Thempai so I had actual plays going first and could easily otk going, but then I realized that Cyberslop does that but better. Anyway I have half a Tenpai deck and I'm constantly tempted to dust it all because the deck is so boring.
oh look chingchong burnnigger can just ftk me and I have no response
Phantom of Yubel to 2 sure slowed them down
>>693339373They good again>NoOk not coming back Konami.
imba real going 2nd deck stop tenpai menace
>chingchong yubeltroon playing some 60 card shitpile mishmash with translaments and labtranny>just so happens to start the starter for everything and none of the brings
always lots of cheating chinks on the last day huh
>>693353713Are you sure he didn't just tribute summon it
And Trident Dragion wasn't prebanned why
>>693339524
It's a gimmick deck but I'm loving Nurse Burn>i play a simple shitty little 1400 atk bandaged girl>set some cards>opponent goes to standby phase>deal most if not all of his LP at once
>There are still zero Mikanko cards on the banlist
uh oh chinkerino just happened to draw his 1-of ghost ogre
Wow Voiceless is actually pretty good into Tenpai
Purrely Lovemaking Memory
>>693343858BASED>>693344148>chinksoullesscringe and shan't be following
>>693343858>>693360501anyone got that uncensored image of the girl in the skirt
>>693360563What fucking girl? Be more specific.
>>693360731
>>693360758
>>693360758https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/96457342
why am i going down in rank after a single lost??!?
i am really hoping konami will start printing cards that cannot be negated just a line of text so long as this card is on the field neither players card effects can be negated.
>>693361292>imagine
>>693361292Hewwo :3 *nuzzles*
>>693361292
new datamined OST.https://files.catbox.moe/uw9fhf.wavpossible Live Twin field? there have also been some sounds datamined like glass breaking, sirens and shark noises.
>>693361859sounds neat, and it does fit in the live twin/evil twin aesthetic.
>>693361346>>693361407>>693361470>all fair and honest in 2024/25REALLY makes you think, the absolute state of the meta
>>693361859>possible Live Twin field?nice just a shame all the negates and black goat makes them borderline unplayable.
Why did Forbidden Droplet just force me to discard 2 cards, i only wanted to negate one monsterNigger ass game made me lose for no reason
>>693362019>Rhongo>Fair and honestRhongo is the strongest, most oppressive floodgate ever printed in the sense that properly turboing it out is an instant win in almost every scenario.No, it will never be fair as long as summoning it is easily doable no matter how weak to interruptions the set up is.
>>693362941Are you retarded?
>>693362941>getting filtered by the ui
>>693348807It was cool when it was just little Yugi stuff (though it was garbage). Then they just turned it into slop with the next wave.
What are some spook-themed decks to play on tonight's Hallow's Eve?
>>693348876They aren't meta or anything like that, but they are better than things like Tistina and Ashened. They don't have any inherent issues other than requiring Shining Sarc to do anything. With a field spell that treats itself as Shining Sarc with a good effect they could become a lot better.
>>693363839Scareclaw
>>693363643It's literally just Dark Magician and it would be weird to not add him in a Yugi deck, since he kept using it afterwards.
>>693363972retard
>>693363972It's supposed to reference to the ceremonial battle deck little yugi used against atem. He doesn't play DM or Summoned Skull in that duel. Deck went from soulful nostalgia to soulless sloppa in one wave.
>>693364153kys tranny
>>693364209He did play summoned skull in the anime version, even if the original Shining Sarc cards reference the manga duel.Besides, there were no more cards to add, unless you wanted Blockman as the final card to piece the archetype together. Yugi kept using Dark Magician after the duel even after Atem passed and it allows the playstyles to mix so it's not a bad fit.
>Tranny is seething over lab again
>>693363126>dies to one card, no questions askedfair and honest
>>693364529Sure anon, because everyone runs and hard draws XYZ Encore and Herald of the Abyss.
I wanna build the Dgayed Magia deck but Spirit Gates and Dark beckoning beast are at 2 now, what could i replace them with?
>>693365271Piri Reis map
>>693365271what's the idea here?use gigantic to summon gale dogra and arc lightthen proceed to make verte and turn end because gigantic lock?
>>693365526He can probably explain it better than mehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niL3cRtVQ-s&t
>>693365271You have 7 copies of it in your deck you fucking moron. You don't need to replace it with anything.
>>693365696I'm asking what to replace the 2 missing cards with, sorry if i worded that oddly
>>693365343That doesn't work with gale dogra
>almost 3 years and the game still only has 1 relevant game mode
>>693363839Tearlaments
>>693366889>game about YGO duels >only has YGO duels
>>693366889What other game mode do you want? I guess a draft mode would be cool.
>>693366889>Why does the Yugioh sim only have Yugioh duels?
>>693364153Based straight white male
>>693366889This. When are they adding a racing minigame to MD?
>>693367145why did she become a moslem?
>>693361859This game's OST is something else, props to komoney for finally doing something right
>>693367031bo3 sidedeck, REGULAR rotating restricted summon mode, unremovable field spell gimmicks, solo duel puzzle stages.
I'm white, i play Labrynth.What decks do lesser races usually play?
>>693367720Forgot to say I'm trans :3
>>693367720join the 41% you disgusting abomination
>>693367838>>693367821The seething dravidian makes itself heard.Don't you have poop eating festivals to attend?
>>693367720tenpaihave a good laughhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFnZ3mc5gsA
oh boy here we go again
>>693367720>Makes trannies frot at the mouth just by existingHow does she do it?
>>693367935kill yourself already you deranged freak, no one will miss you
>>693367720probably tenpai
>>693368206Brown claws typed this post
>>693368206I will miss her ^^"
>>693368206Post hands
>Tenpaicuck uses superpoly>scoops when he notices he has no targets for by board and he needs to fuse with his cardskek
>>693368658Classic
>>693368271>>693368549>>693368613>>693368134blow your fucking brains out already you disgusting tranny
I just finished fapping to pornany new update in master duel?
>>693368792>N-NO I'M N-NOT A T-TRANNY YOU ARE
>>693368792I'm woman, keep coping
>>693368795https://www.masterduelmeta.com/leaks-and-updates
>>693368792You're not yourself when you're hungry
>>693368893>>693368832>>693368971you will never be a woman you disgusting freak
>>693369000And neither will you tranny
We're getting the Halloween ROTA tonight
D barrier call synchro
>>693369000I feel like a woman therefor I am a woman
>>693369143Based
>>693369143Might run this list tonight to prevent as many troonpais from reaching M1 as possible
Uhhh master duel?
>>693364763>>693363126He folds to Daruma and every deck can run it, and should run it. Rhongo is a bitch in the current meta, deal with it.
>>693367720>What decks do lesser races usually play?Branded/Tearlaments
Master Duel General but its not on /vg/
>>693369832Master Duel General but there's no good ritual posters left, just the Ib poster and the anti-lab schizo samefagging*
>>693339373what's the lore on the bone tower?
>>693362019Did you saw the Syncro requirements for cosmic quaszar? If you summon that shit you deserve the win
>>693363126I've already beaten Rhongo that can't lose its materials a bunch of times really easily with my non meta deck, the card is fine.
>>693370015>what's the lore on the bone tower?it's one of the stops for tour guide and sangan.
>>693370085Synchro spam can do it
>>693369143>use D. Barrier>opponents just link climbsNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP PLAYING THE GAME YOU FUCKING NIGGER I WAS SUPPOSED TO WIN BY FLIPPING A PURPLE CARD HOW IS THIS ALLOWED
>>693368658Super Poly is bad in Tenpai until the Charmys get released
>>693370716Maxx "C" is already in the game
>>693370671>>opponents just link climbsOkay
>>693370343Unless you get hit by a handtrap
>>693370835
>>693369143Even Eldlich is better than this garbage list.
>>693370931Just make Accel Synchro Stardust Dragon before you go into Junk Speeder bro
Purrely Fornication Memory
>>693370671>flipping a purple cardMaster of Ham isn't even out yet.
>>693371196It was a swifter bro...
Run 3 different handtraps or 3 of the same HOPT handtrap
>MD art is now GandoraSo next pack is probobly shining sarc>What does gandora have to do-Yugi shit
>>693370931I never understood this. You need like 2-3 handtraps to stop the full Synchron board outside of Nibiru and Shifter, and all of them you need to time right.Veiler on Accel Stardust and Ogre on Fateful Adventure, Veiler on Speeder if they try to chainblock it and/or Nibiru if Speeder resolves.What makes Synchron bad is not that it loses to handtraps, but it cannot go second AT ALL unless it bricks in Adventure and Kashtira, and THAT segment of the deck is good at going second.
>>693372031Droll also screws them over very hard
>>693372031Synchrons dies to a single imperm what are you smoking
>>693372031Sycro also lacks recovery. If your field gets busted (and god have mercy of you if it was by the actual Buster) that's it, you are out of moves, you no longer have any deck or ED to keep going. Utopia and Eccescode have this trouble to so maybe is just how Konami likes to design MC decks.
I haven't seen synchrons in 2 years why are you guys even talking about them
>>693372396Only the degenerate handloop variant loses to Droll. The big dragon spam one doesn't, but the board is breakable with Super Poly provided you run it.
>Maxx "C" in 60>Consneeds when I called by>Check deck
>>693372960what in tarnationEven if you want to play a 60 card variant of something, at least play max copies of all the starters instead of iris swordsoul and the ritual
>>693372708get out of bronze
>>693372960>maxx in 60shit is annoying but at least 3 maxx means no nibiru>looks at list>2 maxx and 1 nibiruoh fuck off
>>693373102loleJust got a synchron opponent immedietly after I made that comment and he insta surrendered when I gamma-d his speeder
>>693373247Any V tier might as well be bronze
>>693372960>60 card schizo pile>only 2 copies of the roachEvery time lol
I almost fucking gave up when the game either gives me Tenpai or a real going first deck.But then I remember Terahertz exists.
>>693351938Same.
>>693351938>would play fiendsmith for this bitchshe's going to be pre banned.
>>693352198I don't care how much it pisses off TCG shitters but I'll continue to repeat this until people start to agree with me.A lower power rotating format that was comprised of only newer sets would fix 90% of Yu-Gi-Oh's problems.Why? Because newer sets wouldn't have to be designed around having to totally warp 20 years of power creep every 6 months.
>>693369143I would replace the field spell and play Iron Thunder in this to beat Red Reboot
>>693374471You called the wrong woman who's going be banned before Demonsmith drops.
>>693374634No, it would kill the game ya retard
>>693352198>They are self-organizing edison tourney insteadNo they arent'n nobody gives a shit about this meme format.
>>693374634>Lower power format>Newest sets>R*ddit spacing10/10 bait, would give a (You) again
>>693374721>>693374846No it wouldn't. Introducing a new format doesn't mean the current format stops existing you stupid idiots. It just means the way sets are designed is less of a headache fir everyone.
>>693375000Retard, stop spouting nonsense
>Promo game>Lose coin toss>60 card pile opens gen, thrust, talents, grass
>>693375053The only thing nonsensical is your inability to form logical responses.
>>693375129>n-no you
>>693375000Just like HS's rotating format stopped powercreep right? Oh wait...
>>693375000Trips of truth. Shitters btfo.
>>693375176I don't play Blizzardshit. It works perfectly fine in the other games that have it. The goal isn't to STOP power creep. The goal is to stop UNCONTROLLED power creep that's the result of trying to use it to sell new product.
>>693367232I'd be the best at it since I'm a racist IRL
>>693375173Stop getting angry about words on a screen.
>>693365665Her hair doesn't just end like that, it's her main body's torso, she's a carnivorous giant worm
>>693375331Which it never does. Every single card game besides YGO has a rotating format, go play those instead
>>693375582To make it a statement, Konami even banned Set Rotation in MD
>>693375582I don't wanna play those games. I wanna play Yu-Gi-Oh in a balanced and controlled state.Yu-Gi-Oh with standard rotation would be the greatest card game ever.>But what makes Yu-Gi-Oh special is no rotation Wrong. Not only are there other games that do Yu-Gi-Oh's retarded shit out of fear of cannibalizing their player base, the games that do have rotation also have Eternal formats.I don't understand why the idea of having options in a game makes you irrationally upset.
>>693375000It would. The main thing that people like about Yu-Gi-Oh is how there is no rotation nonsence. You can shove that retard way of thinking into Magic where doing shit like that killed them alredy and be king of the pile of ashes that you claim to like.
>>693375849>The main thing that people like about Yu-Gi-Oh is how there is no rotation nonsence.Read >>693375794
>>693375849Pokemon has rotation and it's way more successful than Yu-Gi-Oh.
>>693375794Because it's retarded and people will call you for it
>>693376000What's retarded? It's a proven method that not only works, but saved two games from dying.
>>693375896Then play in paper with friends with pet decks and cut this crap
>>693375794Nobody's stopping you from doing that with your friends
>>693376109I don't play paper, I play Master Duel.
>>693375794What makes yugioh special is no set rotation. You can try and deny it but the fact is boomers come back to yugioh after 20 years so they can basedface about dark magician and blue-eyes>I wanna play Yu-Gi-Oh in a balanced and controlled state.Yu-Gi-Oh has never been balanced in the quarter century it has existed.
>>693376109>>693376142That doesn't change how the cards are designed, idiots. You still wind up with an insanely overpowered engine or archetype being printed every 6 months that wrecks havok on the meta until Konami finally soft rotates it out with the banlist 6 months later, before starting the cycle again.
>>693376081Not only you are fucking retarded to use that argument on Yu-Gi-Oh as if it wasn't the most played TCG in the planet but also do it from a place were your main argument is "well I like this more so everybody should do it too"
>>693376165I can see why, you would get yer ass punded into a bloody pulp for acting like this
>>693375794I disagree. OCG-AE shows that a format with only the newest cards is just as homogeneous as any other.You may say>But with a rotating format, new cards would be balanced and low power!And you would be wrong. Konami does not care, card design would be just as retardedly broken and unbalanced but you'd have less old tech cards like Torrential Tribute or Change of Heart to slot in. I fail to see why this is desirable.And no, Rush having usable vanillas is not evidence of anything, they have vastly different rules that wouldn't work with regular YGO.Card design is the issue.
>>693376282So you claim to like something, but hate how it works...this does not sound like a tourist forcing his views on others at all..
>>693376282But that's what you're asking for. You want to play with new cards forgo the latest format. By printing broken cards the old cards become unplayable. Hope this helps.
>>693376240Wrong.Read >>693375794>Not only are there other games that do Yu-Gi-Oh's retarded shit out of fear of cannibalizing their player base, the games that do have rotation also have Eternal formats.>>693376240Yeah, because Yu-Gi-Oh doesn't have rotation, and the only times it's been remotely balanced is the times after banlists, before the cycle starts again, which coincidentally are the Time Wizard formats people are nostalgic over such as GOAT, Edison, HAT, etc....Having rotation would mean you no longer need a banlist in that format (the eternal format can still use it), and because game warping archetypes are no longer being printed, Yu-Gi-Oh gets to be like those fan favorite formats pretty much constantly with a steady eb and flow of stable power creep between seasons, and new cards being introduced to it all the time.
Is there any way to recycle snow devil in vanquish soul?>inb4 rollback
>>693376567I think you need to go back to whatever shithole you crawled out from
>>693376284>if it wasn't the most played TCG in the planetBecause it isn't. That's Pokemon.>your main argument is "well I like this more so everybody should do it too"No, that's not my main argument. Pay attention. My main argument is:Yu-Gi-Oh uses Power Creep to sell new product, which has just hit a critical apex and game has had 2+ years of insufferable back to back T-0 formats.If Yu-Gi-Oh had rotation, then cards wouldn't need to be deliberately designed like this, and the game could actually be enjoyable again.Even at this power level, the game is still fun. What's not fun, is having 1 or 2 decks that are intentionally made to be overwhelmingly overpowered in order to sell product, every single season, and then having those decks get totally gutted into irrelevance once Konami has cashed out.I don't blame Konami for wanting to make money, but this system sucks, and a Standard Format that the game is designed around, would be infinitely better.
https://www.masterduelmeta.com/articles/news/october-31-2024/card-usage-updateSangenpai Bident Dragion - 35.8% (NEW!!)That's the highest a non-staple card has ever had, isn't it?
>>693376737Gryphon
>>693347928activating pendulum monsters as Scales counts them as spell cards, so anything anti-spell like the spell caster forest or anti-spell fragrance can put a dent into doing pend combos.
>>693339524purrely seductive memory
>>693376903rotation doesn't work
>>693376385Keep your tranny fantasy to yourself, homo.>>693376458>OCG-AE shows that a format with only the newest cards is just as homogeneous as any other.Because the cards are designed that way. Which they shouldn't be. The cards should be designed around a diverse meta in a balanced format. However the cards are designed to intentionally limit the scope of the format through power creep, because is unmanageably large.
>>693376947>Maxx "C" - 84.1% (Was 89.7%)Wasn't this like 97% just a month ago
>>693376761I've been here since Master Duel came out retard. I think it's you who needs to fuck off if contrasting opinions make emotional.
>>693376567Konami barely supports Time Wizard or Traditional and would similarly ignore other formats. You're literally asking for a formality, for them to recognize TeleDAD/Edison/HAT/Dinorabbit crap instead of just having them be fan formats. Guess what, even if they do, it's not coming to MD. The TCG already hints at acknowledging they exist, they reprint old useless garbage in sets like RA02, MP24, or QCCB and are even reissuing the infamous Retro Pack in the west but KoJ does not give a fuck my man, and they're the boss. Scream into that void.
>>693376567>You're wrong because I said so
>>693377035It works just fine in Pokemon.
>>693376947I would guess Tears had a higher representation, but I'm not sure how to prove it.
>>693377194pokemon isn't a real card game its just collector shit
>>693377194Based on the comments I read on the new pokemon tcg threads, no it doesn't. And if you think it does, go play that.
i don't care how they do it give me 100 thousand life points just make the game last longer than 2 turns.
>>693377331If you want games longer than 2 turns just play paleo or stun
>>693377405>If you want games longer than 2 turns just play paleo or stuni have tried the assholes just scoop when they cant go full COOOOMBO.
>>693377174You're wrong because you're probably wrong and existing evidence contradicts you. Shutting your ears and pretending it doesn't exist doesn't change the facts.Yu-Gi-Oh is not the only game with an eternal format. In fact, every card game has that.>>693377163>Konami barely supports Time Wizard or TraditionalKonami DOESN'T support those formats because they can't profit off of them, and that's the crux of this whole argument.Having a standard format incentivizes Konami to make sure the format is as balanced as they can, at all times.Currently, Konami is financially incentivized to have an unbalanced game where a certain number of cards are blatantly overpowered that they'll ban after they've profited off of that. How the hell is that conductive to the main purpose of a game?
>>693377068And they will keep being designed that way regardless of if there's rotation or not, because that's how KoJ's design department functions.Again, the issue is card design, not lack of rotation. And that's an unfixable issue right now, no one cares how cards "should" be designed mate. "Should" is a nebulous, unreachable goal, different in every man's mind.The game will never become "wow, hope they print Lightning Bolt into Standard" at any point, because the next set will have Lightning Bolt but it does 1 more damage. And it will always be this way.
>>693377256Wrong again. Pokemon TCG has been having competitive tournaments since before Yu-Gi-Oh was ever even printed.>>693377260Nope, wrong again. Go ahead and ask in those threads how the meta in Pokemon compares to Yu-Gi-Oh. Feel free to report back with their replies.
>>693376903Nope. Pokemon is big because of the stonkers surrounding it. Nobody plays it for fun. >Argument isn't that It is and you just repeated it
>>693377721>that's how KoJ's design department functions.The design department functions because they're financially incentivized to function that way. Every time a set sells poorly, it's bad for them. If Konami was financially incentivized to design cards around maintaining a balanced format, then they'd do that.>But how would rotation do that?Because a standard format having a narrower card pool, means that you're more encouraged to have a broader variety of playable decks. Having a power curve among all decks in the format be relatively closer, is good for selling new product. People wanna see variety, and people are willing to try new stuff in the meta because it actually stands a chance at competing.With the card pool as broad as it is, it's impossible to design every new archetype to be meta relevant because the gaps in power are so large, and one deck at least had to be designed in a way that is clearly much stronger than the curve, in order to guarantee people buy it. Because Yu-Gi-Oh's meta is so strongly defined by how overwhelming powerful some decks are. So players will not buy new stuff if it's not strong. So Konami has no reason to try and balance the game.In a lower power format players will be encouraged to buy new stuff, purely out of novelty, because it stands more of a chance at competing, because an unbalanced meta hurts standard format WAYYYYY more than eternal formats.
>>693377610Wrong, Pokemon does not have an Eternal format. All cards printed before B/W are completely illegal for all but kitchen table play and beyond that the furthest it ever went was HGSS sets in a now defunct digital format.But anyway moving to the part you actually replied to me for, they're testing it in the west and getting no bites.Yeah, here, we're printing mat block again in a tourney pack and all these GOAT and Edison staples in high rarity, look at this extra shiny Stardust Dragon! Sells horribly. Tin bombs. RA02 sells way less than RA01. Speed Duels bombs. This year's tin bombs. Sets that sell? RA01, ROTA, etc. In OCG they don't even bother outside of AE card intro packs.Konami does not and will never give a fuck about balancing a standard format. They know print, ban, print, ban works.
>>693377068A while ago some dudes alongside the LGC owner chopped some black guy arms for stealing cards at a regional. You don't know how things are outisde your bubble.
>>693378130>It is and you just repeated itIt isn't and I clearly laid it out for you. Should I make it easier for your dumb nigger brain?Strong cards sell new set.New set sell means Konami make money.Konami like money.Standard format means Konami no need make super strong cards to sell new set.So Konami also make money and game not shit.
>>693377610>You're wrong because you're probably wrongDo you really expect anyone to take you seriously. No rotation has worked for the last 25 years, this will not change
>>693378290SP had to save the last rarity collection. That's how little people care about the fake formats
>>693361859SOUL
>>693377610Yet Yu-Gi-Oh was able to stand for 25 years with no banlist. On the other hand MTG is dead on it's feet and Pokemon is just an investor ponzi scheme.
>>693378459>Strong cards sell new setTell that to the pet decks that outsell the metasheep crapStandard format would not sell because it's anathema to the game design and nobody likes it outside of you. Can your peabrain understand that?
>>693378247You are too much of a hopeless idealist. No, they are not going to be trying to design balanced stuff for the game even with a standard rotation. I fully understand the theory, you don't need to explain it ad nauseum, it just does not take into account that the game is made by Konami. You will not receive a balanced format. Even if the cards are lower power and don't appeal to the potential crowd in the equivalent of Modern that they would make, they would still be horrendously unbalanced because they just design core boosters and DBPs that way at heart. One archetype is always more busted than the rest, if you're lucky it spreads to 5 or so that have a bizarre counter pentagon with some antimeta rogue stealing wins on the side. In fact, that's literally the current OCG meta. And no matter how it "should" change their card design philosophy, it won't. Your average OCG player theorycrafts the most bombastic strategy possible and it becomes a game of dodge the laser quicker than you can say fuck.
If you guys don't realize that banning Dark Magician but keeping Tenpai legal would fix the game then you're clearly retarded.
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>use click and echo to see my opponent hand>lighting storm, droplet, kaimen, cbtg, and genrokuBruh I'm just trying to play pure dogmatika why you gotta have a hand like that
>>693378290>They know print, ban, print, ban works.Yes, because that's what financially incentivizes them.If you wanna make the discussion on whether or not Konami might try it, we can go there. I'd honestly prefer to than repeating the same talking point I do most times, especially since you're being genuine in your engagement. I do think that discussion is more interesting.I think Konami is boxing themselves into a corner where they'll eventually have to do something like that, imo.The rate of power creep of the game is unsustainable. Like, Ishizu Tearlaments raw, may have been the most powerful deck in all of Yu-Gi-Oh, bit if you compare Tears to everything that's come after it, not only is everything after Tears following the exact same design style of how effects are put on cards, there's several cards within archetypes are significantly more powerful than Tears. What I mean by this, is that competitively, Tears marks the power creep ceiling, but design wise, the power creep hasn't dialed back, but in fact, continued to progress further and further.So eventually, Konami will have to do something.That aside, I do think Konami is toying with the idea of some reboot of sorts. Not a reboot of the card game, as that would piss many people off. But it's clear they've acknowledged that there's an untapped market of people nostalgic for the game, who like how inaccessibly overpowered the game is. They're also aware of fan formats. So the possibility of them trying their hand at it, in their own way, in a way they can profit, is extremely high.They'll probably never call it "Standard Format" and present it the same way it is in other game, but I think by and large, it'll be basically the same thing.I've said it before, but a sort of reboot or reimagining of the Duel Monsters anime, with all the new mechanics, would be the perfect way to kinda kickstart the whole thing.
>>693376993SEEEEEEEEEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>693378503That's autocorrect, I said provably wrong, not probably >No rotation has worked for the last 25 years, this will not changeSee above. PROVABLY wrong. Standard Rotation literally saved two games from their power creep induced self destructions.
>>693378725>Yet Yu-Gi-Oh was able to stand for 25 years with no banlist.I'm sorry what? You're so fervent you're not even making sense anymore. Calm down, and think your arguments through before hitting "Post.">>693378957>Looks at SUDA.......about that....
>>693379471lee deck when if yubel can get a ton of custom cards why not evil fairy waifu.
>>693379473Then go play those games. Even just an anouncement of a rotating format will kill yugioh in less than a week.
>>693379000So is your argument, "no Standard format wouldn't fix the game"? Or, "Konami will never do it cause they're fucking stupid."Let's reach a conclusion before moving goalposts. Have we come to an agreement that a rotating format would fix most of the games problems? Because whether or not Konami would do it is a different point all-together.
>>693379730>Then go play those gamesI do play this games.But I also like Yu-Gi-Oh, and I wanna play a Yu-Gi-Oh where at any given time the format isn't totally warped by a single deck.>Even just an anouncement of a rotating format will kill yugioh in less than a week.That's wrong. I don't see anyone logical would be opposed to having more options.
I think they should ban cards that need to be banned instead of banning shit like Raigeki Break.
the last day of ladder is supposed to be easy and yet here i am on a 10 game loss streak from D1 to D4 i want to blow my fucking brains out
>>693379348>The rate of power creep of the game is unsustainable. Like, Ishizu Tearlaments raw, may have been the most powerful deck in all of Yu-Gi-Oh, bit if you compare Tears to everything that's come after it, not only is everything after Tears following the exact same design style of how effects are put on cards, there's several cards within archetypes are significantly more powerful than Tears. What I mean by this, is that competitively, Tears marks the power creep ceiling, but design wise, the power creep hasn't dialed back, but in fact, continued to progress further and further.That is entirely wrong. If we were still moving in the direction of Tearlaments the game would be getting better, since Tear format was peak YGO. The problem was retards crying about Tear kino causing Konami to go back to making handtrap war combo slop.
>>693379996>the last day of ladder is supposed to be easysays who?
>>693379983That's not what rotation is bro. This format would still exist, so you're crying over nothing.
>>693379941>this games
>>693379996Are you playing tenpai? I specifically didn't climb till the last day to make tenpai players' life miserable. I'm in master tho
>>693380072No, it wouldn't. Rotation niggers are all liars and trannies. If you are going to make all core sets rotationslop going forward then this format would grow stale, boring and uninteresting. Introducing rotation inherently means ruining the eternal format because Konami will not double the rate of product release with eternal format sets to keep the eternal format the same as it is now.
>>693380079Why is her thigh so fucked up?
what's a good deck for ryonachads?
>>693379754The conclusion is meant to be both. Standard will not fix the game BECAUSE Konami is fucking stupid.I'm talking realism, not idealism. A rotating format in an ideal setting would "fix" some problems but not all of them, would significantly increase cost of entry, and would make certain products inherently worse and less viable financially due to a changing audience. Vanguard rotated out of a non-rotating format and lost about 2/3rds of its playerbase, and barely supports Premium (the old format) at all. Konami isn't likely to take a similar risk.
How broken would a Normal Trap version of Summon Limit be?
>>693378561Makes me a bit bummed about my tin SP but I hope the rest of the non-shit pool is similarly good anyway.
>>693380854You're asking for a Trap version of Maxx C
>>693380041Tear format was the peak because the combination of Tears and Ishizu, with the toolbox of everything broken the game has being available to Tears is overwhelming.Ironically enough, if Years had come out in a Standard Format Environment, while they still would have been ban worthy, they would have been WAYYYYYY less powerful.Just think of all the cards Tears WOULDN'T have access to, and how much this would weaken the deck.No Herald of the Orange Light.No Abyss Dweller.No Time Thief Redoer.No Shaddolls.No I:PNo BeatriceNo My dragonNo King of the SwampNo AvramaxNo DragostapeliaNo Instant FusionNo Terraforming No Super PolyEtc....Again, they'd still be ban worthy. Dredge is too powerful, and it was the critical mass of Spright+Ishizu+Bystials that just rolled up into a single pile deck with zero locks. Big mistake. But anyway.The point being. The issue isn't Tearlaments. The design style of Tearlaments, persists. Tearlaments PURE. Like, only the Tear cards, nothing else, is comparatively on power with Kashtira Pure, Snake-Eyes Pure, Yubel Pure, and Azamina White Woods.Not only that, but the idea of having decks and engines that roll up into a big ball of overpowered shit is still present as well. You see it with how well Fiendsmith merges with Snake-Eyes for example.Tears + Bystials + Spright + Ishizu + Kashtira Is something Konami did on purpose. And they're doing it again this format, and next format. Why?Because it sells product.New deck is not just new deck, it's new engine to make your strong deck even stronger, that you have to buy to stay competitive. Locks means they lose out on sales.
Not reading all that but they should ban Kitkallos already and give us back Instant Fusion
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>>693380342Yes it would. It exists in the other games with Standard format.>If you are going to make all core sets rotationslop going forward then this format would grow stale, boring and uninteresting.It would move slower, but by much.Cards in standard format would still affect the eternal format.Over time it might start shifting more slowly, but that's what the banlist is there for.Plus, sets are already designed with support for old shit that never sees play, and one off generics that are good for everything.These would persist as support eternal.
>>693379348Technically, no, the rate of powercreep is not unsustainable. Snake Eye Fiendsmith is not as strong as Tear or even full power Kashtira. There are no limits to how many cards can be put on the banlist, which is why people sometimes say we have pseudo rotation, which is preferable to the real thing in my personal opinion.But like a post above, they toy with the idea of support for classic formats and it causes the product in question to either fail or sell worse than a comparable item. The playerbase for it is not as profitable as you might believe.What they might be toying with is trying Rush in global, but I doubt it with how behind it would be.
>>693381160>Spright+Ishizu+Bystials that just rolled up into a single pile deckYou literally have no idea what you're talking about
>>693339373So who's Skull Servant exactly? The name is a localization ok, but is he the owner of the wight mansion? Or just an actual servant?
>>693380787>The conclusion is meant to be bothIt's not both. Those are two different arguments. So stop trying to conflate them to muddle the waters.>would significantly increase cost of entryHow would it increase the cost of entry?>would make certain products inherently worse How so? >and less viable financially due to a changing audience.Why would the audience change? Especially when there's currently an audience interested in Yu-Gi-Oh, that doesn't like the currently overpowered style of the format? And going off of steam numbers, that audience is like 9x bigger than the main audience autistic enough to play Master Rules.If anything you're expanding the audience by creating a beginner friendly lower power format with a limited card pool.>Vanguard rotated out of a non-rotating format and lost about 2/3rds of its playerbase, and barely supports Premium (the old format) at all.Vanguard also handled their rotation like complete shit, and has rebooted their brand like 7x now.
Yep, I'm thinking CBT is back on the menu, lads :)
>>693381451Nta but no, in other games (like CFV as mentioned by another) it just caused support for the eternal format to drop. Keep in mind this is only how it goes for games that suddenly introduce it after establishing a long running playerbase in a non-rotating game.
>>693381526>You literally have no idea what you're talking aboutWrong again.
>>693381924>So who's Skull Servant exactly?family man and chad.
>>693380072>This format would still existSo then the cards would still be designed for it and all you'd end up with is an alternative format with all the outdated pet decks banned and the powercreep shilled decks legal. Genius.
>>693381373Is it NTR?
Free him.
>>693382123she got drunk and got raped so its not ntr
>35% of all players play tenpaiwhy is this allowed? not that i faced many tenpais in plat
>>693381925>None of the cards printed in the last 25 years are legal for play>How would it increase the cost of entry?Please stop. It's painfully obvious from how you talk about formats like IshizuTear that you didn't play back then and have no idea what you're talking about.
Super Poly is only unfair against unfair cards
>>693381924He's a faceless nameless skeleton. >no, I mean the kingKing is just a title that many skull servants have had, hence his ability to resummon himself when destroyed in battle by banishing another skull servant.
>>693379996Not a big deal so long as you got to x1 in whatever bracket you're in. Would've had to speedrun up to M3 to make it worth it, and even then it's only +50. Basically just one extra daily for 10+ duels, assuming you won every one back to back
>>693382263>solve this monster to winGuess.
>>693382338Like most cards, Super Poly is only unfair when the player going 1st uses it. If it were only playable on your turn basically no one would complain about it.
>>693381492>Technically, no, the rate of powercreep is not unsustainable. Snake Eye Fiendsmith is not as strong as Tear or even full power Kashtira.I disagree. The Tearlaments DECK is much stronger. Because dredge is just that strong of an effect.However, from a design standpoint, they're following the exact same design blueprints, AND individually, some newer cards are way stronger than anything Tearlaments had printed.Look at Phantom of Yubel, and tell me that's not way stronger than any Tearlaments card.>What they might be toying with is trying Rush in global, but I doubt it with how behind it would be.They'll never do Rush in global because Rush is aimed to compete with Duel Masters directly, which shifted its focus more heavily toward kids. And since Duel Masters isn't in the west, Konami likely doesn't see the market for it. The only people who really want Rush are the exact same people who enjoy a standard format, if managed correctly.What Konami IS aware of in the west, is the audience of Yugiboomers who don't like the new game at all. Rush wouldn't work for them because it doesn't strike the nostalgia.A reboot of the DM anime, with announcement of a "Beginner format" "limited format" or something like that, would absolutely bring that audience in.You get to play Blue Eyes, DM, and all the cards people are nostalgic about, reimagined for a more fast paced game than what they remember (which is how the anime would be), but still far more limited in insanity to what, the "Master Rules" format is like.So the crazy combo shit that people absolutely hate, would not be in that format, as the card pool is too limited to enable that, and the archetypes would favor midrange strategies akin to Swordsoul and Branded which have proven to be successful with beginners.Basically, the format would be on par to Branded and Swordsoul format in power level.I think that would work extremely well with most people.
>>693380559mikanko of course
>>693380854Shut the fuck up, David Bowie
>>693382291But the are legal to play. This would be a beginner format bro. You can play those cards in this current format.
new memento support when? its still missing its REAL boss monster!
>>693379667She already had custom cards, they're still banned.
>old format is slow paced and totally don't spam special summons, trust me guise.
>>693381492>What they might be toying with is trying Rush in global, but I doubt it with how behind it would be.Rush is eternal with no rotation as well and it has just as much powercreep as normal YGO. Early Rush decks are miles apart from what decks do nowadays.
>>693383046Phantom is the power level needed to make Yubel, one of the worst cards ever printed playable.
>>693381935Deck list?
>>693381945Yeah, but the difference is that the way Konami already designs their core sets is conductive to supporting multiple formats.>>693382118No, you'd design new archetypes for the standard format. And support for older archetypes in core sets, would obviously be for the eternal format. Technically legal in standard, but you can't really play it without old support. Generic boss monsters and staple cards, would be for both.It's not hard bro. And if that's too confusion. Cards designed for standard have a symbol with a letter next to the set number to denote their rotation phase. So, support meant for eternal ONLY in a core set, such as support for old archetypes, doesn't get that symbol unless Konami wants to have that playable.I think that's too much of a hassle, so just letting it be legal in standard as fine, as it gives the option to reprint some old cards to make them standard legal again. That's just way better. Standard thrives on variety after all.
>>693383046>Rush is aimed to compete with Duel Masters directlyMan, Duel Masters looks actually good, it even makes Rush Duels look like a cheap ripoff. This is the absolute state of Konami.
>>693381925They are the same argument, it is both. A is the result of B. Konami would handle what Standard is, ergo it would not work because Konami is still stupid.>costYou cannot use old staples. You must use new cards, printed at high rarities (in MD and TCG, less so in OCG but they still had pricey Unicorn, Bonfire, and Baronne there for a time) and all your old cards are useless. Konami is infamous for this.Certain products (usually reprints) are no longer viable until very late in a format, but are also only worth picking up for the last quarter of competitive play regardless. I have played games with rotation and seen this firsthand.Why wouldn't the audience change? The group that likes older formats has not put their money where their mouth is for any product offering targeted at them, while the existing customers buy a case for a chance at a Magia.And Vanguard handling their rotation like shit is relevant, because I challenge you to try and make me believe Konami would do much better.When it comes down to it though, I do think they eventually will, once the current generation of consumers passes. But that's quite a ways off.
>>693383046Rush is going on same direction that current game. Decks are ridiculous strong and nearly unstoppable
>>693383863I am lucky I am a ocg player, cards super cheap here.
>>693383863>Sorry your 3 years old Zeus is no longer legal. >It's ok though you can play the new zeus we are printing with a stamp that says it's standard legal. >It's a shortprinted 1 in 7 cases secret rare BTW HF :)
This is the only reason Goblins aren't tier negative 1 by the way. Once this is fixed you will all tremble in fear at their might.
>>693383863>You cannot use old staplesYes you can. When has this ever not been the case. In every single game with standard rotation, if an old card gets reprinted and is made standard legal as a result, the old print of the card is also legal for the exact same duration.>The group that likes older formats has not put their money where their mouth is for any product offering targeted at them, while the existing customers buy a case for a chance at a Magia.The group that "likes older formats" isn't the same audience that excitedly booted up MD on launch, and noped the fuck out after getting blasted by Drytron.>But mobileRemember MD came to PC first. That audience was gone before mobile ever came out.>When it comes down to it though, I do think they eventually will, once the current generation of consumers passes. But that's quite a ways off.We can agree on this. But I think it's more like 5 years. Too many things are just lining up with that being something they're gonna have to do. And as >>693383539 is pointing out. Konami is going to learn the hard way that rotating formats are a necessity for cards games.Rush Fuel is also proving to be a failure as a successor to the main game, which Konami was certainly hoping it could be. They're gonna have to try something new. And they're gonna have to find a way to somehow bring the power level of the game down some, while also letting the hard core combo autists keep their nonsense. Having two formats is the logical solution I can think of.
>>693384443Did they fix the issue where you only open Taketomborg, the XYZ trap and your normal got negated and destroyed?
>>693384605No, they don't fix skill issues.
>We live in a time where people are begging konami to be greedier and more consumer-unfriendly
>>693383046Please stop putting so much space between your sentences, it makes your post gigantic and annoying to read. AnywayI mean, the point was that yes, Tear is much stronger. I literally said that the current busted meta deck isn't even as strong as the deck that came AFTER Tear was hit. They cycle the meta out via the banlist. There will be another IshTear mistake, and it will leave the same way Tear did. Phantom of Yubel is strong but Tear is still a far more powerful deck. Ostensibly there are cards more powerful than individual Tear cards, but the deck they're part of is what makes them not as powerful.Unfortunately as others have said, your audience of Yugiboomers don't put their money where their mouth is in the west. It is not as profitable as you imply, and every product that includes them as a target demographic sells worse except for Anniversary Collection boxes (i.e. some useless illegal promos, some useless legal promos, and 3 old boosters filled with vanillas).We have demonstrable proof that it does not cause product to move.I do think Rush might see a little success but like you said, not happening. Card games are not as popular with kids in the west.
Can I activate CoH, chain cosmic cyclone and chain droplet to send both as cost?
>>693384925Yes
>>693384493How many times have you come here to start the same argument about rotation being the cure to everything wrong with Yugioh?
>>693383902I mean, I figured as much. It's what happens when you use power creep to sell product. Remember that both MtG and Pokemon tried to NOT have Standard Rotation at first, but we're forced into. Pokemon especially really tried to avoid it at first, be eventually had to do it.The hardest thing with standard is managing that transition so as to not piss off established players. This is where 99% of companies fuck It up.But I think when it comes to Yu-Gi-Oh, more and more players are starting to accept that something needs to change, and drastically. I think give people a bit more time, and most players will be fine with a second format if managed well, and they see the eternal format will still be supported as well.As I said, Konami kinda already has all the pieces to make this work. The way they design their sets as well is already primed to support both formats, so I think it can turn out really well actually.It's why I'm so insistent that people open their minds to the possibility, because Yu-Gi-Oh would be SO much better if it just had the option. Abd clearly people wants a lower power more balanced format that's supported by Konami.Saying "hey it's nostalgia format but and modern" is exactly the right chord they need to strike.Goat Format but it has synchros, and Links and XYZ, and the power level is like Swordsoul, but it's full of all the classic stuff people are nostalgic for, but reimagined, and this format will be limited and rotating to maintain balance.That's basically what they gotta do imo.
>new whale-bait featuresMaster Duel is fucking saved!!!
Behold, 2 text boxes.
>>693383730Not exactly true. They would work for a Smogon style format series if that's what you mean, but not release based.Core boosters have meta cards, free agents, legacy support, and packfiller. The existence of legacy support that completely alters how the deck plays is not the same as supporting multiformat based on date. First reply, not the second.
>beatrice into rollback into mayakashi bullshit trapI don't even think Beatrice is the issue. Rollback is a stupid ass card.
>>693385087Hmmmm probably twice in recent memory. I may have brought it up before like a year ago, but it's something that's been on my mind a lot lately for some reason.However, it's not that no rotation is the problem. It's more, rotation is the only logical way to really "fix" the game. Eternal master rule format should always be overpowered nonsense reigned in by a banlist. But obviously many people want the option to play something a little more balanced with Yu-Gi-Oh in some way or another. This is why most card games have more than one format.One for the crazy overpowered shit and has every card available.And one that's slower and more balanced, but rotates.
>>693385387both are>t. paleochad
>>693385515>rotation is the only logical way to really "fix" the gameWhat if they banned the cards that need to be banned instead of banning a bunch of cards that don't need to be? >they won't do that thoughYeah and they won't do rotation either so what's the point?
>>693385651OGC ban everything but actual problem, they avoid much as they can.TGC tend to do scorch earth banlists.
>>693385821That doesn't answer the question.
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>>693385387Beatrice enables plenty of other bullshit too. Just ban both of them and Isolde too for good measure.
>>693385880>worshipping e-celebs to the point of pretending they have complete ownership of an entire archetypeStop this shit man, it's embarrassing.
>>693385880>implying I play the sprghtshit variant
>>693386009Yeah man 30% of the playerbase just organically decided to play an pre 2020 archetype all of a sudden.
>>693386158It was because new cards made it far better and this was proven through it starting to see tops in both TCG and OCG.
The coolest part about yugioh is being able to use some old ass packfiller that is suddenly playable in a modern deck
>>693384860Yes, but you're missing the point. I'm talking about the design of the card. Tear rotated out, doesn't mean the power creep has been dialed back. What you design as strong and what comes out as strong are two different things. Tear was among the first decks to have the new design blueprint. It's clear Konami didn't expect it'd be AS strong as it wound up being, because they underestimated, the versatility of the dredge mechanic. However, if you look at the design of the archetypes and linearly you can see that raw power, the new stuff actually powecreeps Tear a little. I don't mean in competitive results, or even in matchup. I mean if you look at, and read the cards, you can see all the stuff is following the exact designblue print of 3-4 effects, with an effect that punishes interaction, multiple searchers, 1 card combo starters, and no locks to allow for viable mix and matching across multiple archetypes. However, the stuff starts to evolve on the Tear formula, with certain cards that have stronger individual effects or more complex effects that Tears did.Right?So yes, Tear is stronger competitively, but the design strategy of Konami hasn't changed since Tear got banned, nor has it been dialed back. It may be a while before we see something as strong as Tear, but the power creep itself never stopped or turned back. Why? Because after Tear, they immediately still needed to continue to push new product, so the design strategy, when it was planned like 4 years ago, was still designed to follow through ad they intended. Remember that it takes designers several years to design a whole set. Going by MTG, it probably takes them like 4 years before release. Konami probably less, cause they play test less, so like 3. But basically, they had already planned how the power creep would develop, well before Tear even came out, let alone they saw how powerful it was. So they never had any chance to alter much of anything.
>>693386448>cause they play test lessIt isn't possible to do negative playtesting.
