Why are there no games set in Australia?Australia has a massive basin with fertile land the size of France and Germany combined.
Because it's boring and cucked.
>>693618415It's all baking hot desert. The most interesting thing out there is a giant rock and the mysterious US military base.
>>693618547How do aussies grow farms and have cattle in the baking hot desert?
All cities look the sameAll cities have been fucked over by carbrainsExactly 1.5 recognizable pieces of architectureThe only intersting environments are the rainforests and mountains where nobody lives.
>>693618415>fertilehaha>>693618597They only exist near the coast
australia is a legitimate shithole with everything being banned
>>693618415Am aussie, because there's literally nothing here except the cities, which suck, and the country, which sucks less but is still boring
>>693618597It's mostly done near the coasts when it comes to stuff like wheat, rice and such. There are some crops you can grow out in the middle of the bush but it's mostly just stuff that can survive. Cattle and kangaroos are also ranched for meat and furs but I don't know how they do it in the middle of the red plains
No game dev has managed to survive long enough to collect enough reference material for a full fledged game.
>>693618415>Australia has a massive basin with fertile land the size of France and Germany combined.What did blud mean by this? Zero relevance to games
>>693618826>>693618903What happens in inland straya/rural straya?
If you don't like being around people it sounds like Australia is a nice place to live.
>>693618415can you circle this area on a map and post it so I can laugh at you?
>>693618415There's at least one.
>>693619017Aboriginals and alcohol
>>693618415A true to life Australian game with Australians and real Abbos would make the entire world racist to both of those people on day 1so as much as I want it, it will never happen in today's cultural climate
>>693619017>What happens in the shithole areas of [Nation]meth and poverty
>>693619017abos/booze/sniffing petrol >>693619098This
>>693619017It's either 90% people talking about eres rock and alice springs, which is mostly funny because of all the abos drunk of their fucking mind on goon bags, or 10% sand and thats it. There is some really neat rock formations out there but it's mostly just sand and the odd cattle station.
Does it ever bother Australians that the vast majority of Aussies are not natives to this land?
There isIt's called house flipper
I want a game with characters that are like the dudes from the big lez show. those type of australians are hilarious
Australia produces basically nothingAussies, explain yourselves NOW
>>693619562who needs manufacturing when you got the minesthe mines brothe mines and houses
>>693619562Pretty sure if Australia didn't exist we wouldn't have nuclear bombs. So they are at least somewhat important.
>>693619562idiot government, what do you want me to say? they won't listen
>>693619562We produce a fuckload of foodstuffs, timber, coal, metal and petroleum. We're one of the US's most important trading partners for natural resources
>Woolworths>Coles>IGA>ALDIRank 'em
>>693619659shitshit alright alright
>>693618817why are these never translated to english
>>693619651>We're one of the US's most important trading partners for natural resourcesWhy don't Aussies use their own resources?
>>693619063based and madmaxpilledi need to finish this game but i got filtered on one of the races
>>693619394>Does it ever bother Australians that the vast majority of Aussies are not natives to this land?No because technically everyone but the abos aren't natives. If you don't shit up the place anyone is welcome
>>693619659Woolies is shitColes is mehIGA is mehALDI is okWoolies and IGA are my go-to for general day to day stuff since I'm far closer to one of those than a coles or aldi
>>693619562Classist, anti-intellectual society that discourages people from doing STEMno online universities that teach STEMYou need rich parents to afford to go to uni because rent is more than austudy, so most rural and suburban kids with potential end up in the mines or as real estate agents.
>>693619721Because our government is full of greedy fuckwits and wants as much money as they can get their grubby little hands on.
>>693619721because the zionist mafia government would rather sell everything to make a quick dollar
>>693619651>we're selling our own resources in exchange for green paperimpressive, you're as dumb as russia
>>693618415The Mad Max Game is, or at least, it's around Australia in the dried up ocean with some coast bits.
>>693619904Not me doing it, it's the cunts who tax me for being alive
>>693619017Fucking nothing happens, that's what.
Is it safe for Horses & Livestock to live in Australia when it's so dry?
I think the CRPG Broken Roads takes place in Australia, but I heard it sucks complete ass.
>>693618415No permission from first-nations people.
>>693619394Not me barring one group, the Lebanese. These fuckwits have admitted multiple times to wanting to bring sharia law over, forming gangs in the CBD's and abusing their status as a minority to get into car accidents and then cry racist when the guy they hit/let hit them gets even slightly upset.
>>693620139What are wogs like?
>>693619394Nobody was ever native to Australia.And for most of the world really. People settled in new places all the time.
>>693620138>>693620139>>693620231>acknowledges the Traditional Owners and their custodianship of the lands on which they are situatedLmao Aussies
>>693620226All the wogs I've dealt with personally have actually been pretty ok. I work with two italians on regular who are great, I know one who's a total cunt though. The indian guys I work with are honestly not even indian at all since they're like 3rd generation aussies. I really don't give a fuck about any of them except the muslims who specifically want to bring the sharia law shit over. The other muslims I'm ok with since they don't give a fuck about that stuff and just want to live a good life.
>>693620426Where did I acknowledge these niggers?They either walked over from Indonesia or were dumped here on slave boats from India 2000 years ago. Nobody is native to Australia.
>>693620426No I don't and I voted no. I find it hard to consider the abo's the 'original custodians' when 99% of them bitch, moan and complain that they aren't being given enough handouts and that they can't get free grog. The 1% is mostly older blokes who teach kids about actual aboriginal history at camps.
australia would have better teachers and therefore a better educated populace if they didn't have to all serve 5 years in outback shitholes dealing with students who'll all end up in the mines or on meth anyway
>>693618415Need a total pajeet annihilation.
>>693619716The individual stories get translated. They just don't get gathered up into one release because it'd make finding things a hassle.
>>693620717>who'll all end up in the mines or on meth anywayWhat is the job market like in straya?
>>693620798hahahahahahahAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
>>693620717>>693620798there is near zero industry in australiaeven if you do get a "lol" high paying jon, say 350 - 300K a year - you will still not be able to afford a house.House go up more than that a year (9% a year rlongterm average) and a house will set you back 3 mill or so.Os you after tax and cost of living will see you have negative income.You realise this about 7 years after you come to australia.It starts of this place is so "great"then you get a job, and a btter job if there was one, and tthen you scracth your head why your getting further and further behind financaillyAll the contracts and money is rigged.They mass immigrate to keep wages low, and push houseing up.
There's Broken Roads. It sucked though.
>>693619747NTA, but I should probably go back to it too. I wasn't filtered, just started a different game one day and never looked back. Not sure which is larger nowadays: my backlog of unstarted games or my backlog of unfinished games?
>>693618415Australia is easily the least interesting continent aside from Antarctica. Most of it is flat, barren, inhospitable wasteland and the indigenous culture isn't as interesting as others
Did Australia have a period similar to the American Wild West? Can you make a western game in Australia?
>>693620985>Most of it is flat, barren, inhospitable wastelandYou got filtered by ToowoombaToowoomba is situated on the edge of the Great Dividing Range, at an altitude of approximately 700 meters above sea level
>>693621119Ned kelly themed game would be kinda neat
>>693620854>wanted a family>still living with mum to save money>30>not even 1/10th of the way to being independent>live out in the sticks>tfw
>>693621119It did, and it's very fucking cool. Australians don't like talking about it though for some reason.
>>693619904>sell our own resources instead of using it to fix our retarded energy prices, food prices, housing prices etc.>buy the excess back at a higher price from the people we sell it toOur government is mentally retarded, and no matter who you vote for in this "democracy" nothing fucking changes except for the worst.
>>693618415wait for Forza Horizon 8 or something
>>693621119Yes, but the original australian ranchers were all descended from british aristocrats.And they weren't poor or oppressed in anyway, they were usually members of parliament.
>>693618415give it back oliver, ya cunt
>>693619716just learn Japanese dipshit
>>693621235No no no, our government isn't retarded, because they know EXACTLY what they're doing. They sell the resources we produce/extract to other countries at a premium, whatever scraps are left in Australia are also sold at a premium, whatever scraps aren't used in countries we sold the initial stuff to is sold back to us for CHEAP, actual cheap, and then sold into our market for us to use at a premium as well. They aren't retarded, they're just fucking evil
>>693618415Why do you keep asking this question? Mad Max, Kao the Kangaroo (allegedly, but made by Poles), plenty of car/racing games (Forza Horizon 3, Assetto Corsa, Gran Turismo, etc.). Also Australia is almost entirely empty ass desert, there's fuck all of interest. That said, I always found the accents and humor to be golden - a Postal game set there would be tops.>Go make a game that takes place there if it bothers you that much
>>693621181>Australians don't like talking about it though for some reasonBecause we're culturally and spiritually in prison. We never managed to kick the shackles the monarchy put on us and it's infested every single aspect of Australian culture and lifestyle. There's a very strong sense among Australian's that trying to better yourself and breaking out of the basic bitch waggie middle class life style then you've got tall poppy syndrome and need to be taken down a peg, regardless of how talented you are or how great your accomplishments undoubtedly are. Strong class traitor resentment. It's why the second any Australian performer begins to be even vaguely popular overseas they immediately leave because growing here is poisonous to your future.
>>693619063Not actually set in Australia. Some of the ruins have place names on them, which reveal the game is set around San Diego California
>>693618415It's a white country so it's too safe. Who would your enemies be?
>>693619721They lack the industrial capacity to actually make use of it>whyBecause they were founded as a resource colony for the British Empire rather than a manufacturing one and didn't receive true independence until after WW2 by which time their economy had been built around mining/farming rather than manufacturing, and because their modern labour laws are so absurd that it is impossible to make a profit assembling things in the country.
>>693622369Remember the reveal trailer how they didn't even bother to give Max an Australian accent?
>>693621260Big time American ranchers during that era also were filthy rich and dominated local politics. The difference is the mindset. In the American frontier, the public at large generally didn't concern themselves with how well their neighbour was doing. They only worked to try and improve their own lot. If their neighbour struck gold, good for them. Hopefully there's gold on "my" land too. The reason Americans pushed into the frontier wasn't to bring civilisation to the savage wastes, as was the case in Canada or Australia or Africa. It was to escape the politics and government of the east so they could live as free and sovereign individuals.
>>693621252Horizon 3 was in Australia. They even added a heap of Aussie cars to fit the setting.
One day people will come to realize digging a big hole in the middle of australia and making our private sea is the only way of saving us.
>>693622340I don't know anything about Australian culture. Why the status quo mentality?
>>693623057you are screwing thousand of species for that, and god only knows if one of them is important to ecological cycle of australia.
>>693623273I've very cunningly thought about that already and the plan is to slowly enlargen the sea over time because well you can't make a massive inland sea instantly anyway. The animals will be fine.
>>693619792Why the fuck would you do a STEM degree without lab time? Also I think UNE lets you study biomed or science via distance.
>>693623057sus
>>693623057Except you would do it from the north to the south because all the mining infrastructure is up there.>>693623273Sounds like your knowledge of our 'ecological cycle' is limited lil bro.
>>693623445why do you need lab time for computer science
>>693620957its worth at least playing for like 7 hours or something just to appreciate the visualsi didnt finish it either i got very far but i think i got back into league or something after it came out, or maybe it was that shadow of war or something
>>693623132It's not unique to them. Basically all old-worlders have that problem, due to them all being directly descended from millennia-old hierarchal monarchist societies. You have generation after generation of people being raised in a culture where they're required by law to "know their place", you end up with a society that is very anti-individual and anti-liberty. Even if they establish republics and democracies, they simply apply the old hierarchal 'defer to authority' mindset to the secular state rather than the church and kings of old. The US is unique in the fact it was established specifically to abolish that form of government, which is also why the US is essentially the only country that believes rights are inalienable and inherent to mankind rather than a list of privileges granted by government.
>>693623646Nah just add some canals up north, that'll create a bunch of jobs too. The big opening down south is actually for subs to come and go quietly but don't tell ASIO I said that.
>>693623008FH 3 was dope. I loved driving around blizzard mountain listening to R Kelly's Christmas album
>>693623442>enlargenNot a word, you mean embiggen
>>693623664Why do you need a degree for computer science?I thought you were talking about real STEM
>>6936230571. It's like 500 billion dollars to dig a chanel that long2. You'd want to dig it all the way through to the other side3. It has to be constantly dredged for salt because of evaporation for hundreds of years4. It would take at least 20 years to fill up5. Political boondoggle of epic bacon proportionsSummary: Worth it, never gonna happen because politics
>>693618415Play Abiotic Factor or golf story. Who am I kidding /v/ don't play Videogames
>>693623896Dont ask me that, ask the universities that don't offer CS online.
>>693623646hole that massive would cause huge change in 'straya's weather cycle at the very least. Those that inhabited that cursed continent adapted to the shithole they are in as it is. You don't water cactus excessively and expect them to thrive from all the extra water, right?
>>693623912>dig it all the way through to the other sideShit, do this and we can balkanize australia
>>693624123There are tho anon, Griffith and CSU both offer it in Aus. I just thought you were talking about actual STEM degrees.
>>693624374The expectation is it would turn all of Australia into coastal Australia's biome. Grassy, forested, tropical jungles where appropriate. The unspoken part of this is all the desert species are going to die out, or at least go into severe decline.
>>693624113>Abiotic FactorDidn't know that was Australian. Neat. Been waiting for it to come out of Early Access.
>>693624374Sure it was cause changes but things change anon. Australia's inland used to be a giant sea, it was called the eromanga sea.
>>693624621>eromanga>Ero MangaThe Simulation is acting up today I see.
>>693624621and the whole world used to be the same super continent, what's your point?
>>693619017Aboriginals behaving like primitive sub 80 iq apes.
>>693625216The point was at the start. Things change, you are allowed to change things. You aren't trapped in a vacuum.
>>693623057This wouldn't work like people thinkIt'd be cooler and you'd get a little more rain around those areas, but you aren't going to turn the outback into a jungle.Basically, it would not affect the location of water vapor in the atmosphere. (More red = more rain)
>>693625336>It'd be cooler and you'd get a little more rainWorth it
>>693619431I bought in December and it already valued at 100k more than the sale price, not including some renos ive already done.
>>693625318yeah, some will adapt, MOST will die. Also if you think it will fix Australia's problems like their real estate problem then you are wrong.
>>693618415
>>693623057isn't there some plan by the government to (((one day))) dig a river/canal through the west to the south?
>>693625482>Baseless statement>Random point about real estateAnon I get you really want to be right here but you are just devolving into non-sense.
>>693625336What do you think causes those air currents? They're highly sensitive to the ocean. An Australian inland sea would potentially be the same size as the Gulf of Mexico, whose water currents play a big part in the climate all along the eastern US.
>>693618415>Why are there no games set in Australia?a few tf2 maps are in austrlia aren't they
>>693625580>baselessjust take a look at the effect of dams to local ecosystem, then imagine said changes to continent level.
>>693618415There was that Mad Max game that was pretty cool, although I remember seeing the golden gate bridge sticking out of the sand so maybe it wasn't australia?
>>693625758And those Dams support millions of people. What's your point? Killing a thorny toad is pretty irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. I also think Atlantropa was a great idea. You sound like a little bitch.
>>693625627Due to the way water vapor actually lands on australia as rain the east and west coasts will get essentially nothing and it will land along the north of the country.Not saying it would be bad or not worth it, just saying it's not all sunshine and lollipops.
>>693625995the Mad Max game was set in the US.
>>693626127then only thing you are supporting by drilling those canals in australia are indian and chinese immigrants.
>>693626249Anon I'm not drilling any canals, we are talking about terraforming projects here not immigration. I understand you have ADHD but atleast keep on topic.
>>693618415Australia is a retirement home in country form. Maybe the former island prison can get some prestige when China kicks off a war in the region.
>>693626352China has half a world to conquer before they even get close to australia anon
>>693619098What are abbos anyway? They look kinda like negroes but ancient africans could never have crossed that much ocean.
>>693626678Australia is joining a SEA war.
>>693618415there's that one mad max game, im assuming it takes place in Australia
>>693626763And in this hypothetical SEA war, only SEA countries are allowed to participate because...?
>>693619394it doesnt bother americans
>>693626829Why would Australia be excluded? They will have to join the coalition.
>>693618415>ctrl + f>no down under danim disappointed in all of you
>>693622369aw, that is so gay, now that i think about it are the mel gibson movies even set on australia?
>>693625492it baffles me that grown men watch this show
>>693618415Dinkum
>>693618757All cities look the sameAll cities have been fucked over by carbrainsAll cities are full of pajeets and arabsFTFY
>>693626693they're what became of Yakub's people after he released the white demons upon the earth
>>693618415It's a massive piece of land but it's all flat and the same ugly biome. Not even sure how that happened it's like Earth's map auto generator fucked up on Australia.
>>693618415>Why are there no games set in Australia?Stellar Blade
>>693618415go back to your /pol/ thread you dumb nigger
>>693618597They mostly don'tThey would need to reforest the whole fucking continent again before they could start looking at turning it into heartlands
>>693619562MUH POST-INDUSTRIAL ECONOMY memeSome faggots somewhere want to pretend that an entire country can exist just selling luxury services to each other and never actually making shit
>>693627205It was originally intended to be a prison colony, so no-one put any effort in. Later Australian politicians realised that the prison would work much more efficiently if they made it a country, took away our guns and started importing millions of pajeets to inflate worthless land and property prices.
>>693623057
>>693626893Australia wouldn't be excluded but half the world becomes involved if there is a war in that region and Australia will just be a port at that stage.
>>693623057>digging a big hole in the middle of australiaNo need, the shit is already below sea level, you just cut a channel through and the whole place will fill back up and make jungles and rainforests again.Estimating the cost using the panama canal as reference the entire thing would only cost a few hundred billions of dollars at the low cost of some fucking kangaroos and abos
>>693625336>but you aren't going to turn the outback into a jungle.it was one before
>>693627345Anon half the world was a prison colony. America was the same, they just put in the effort to improve the infrastructure. Australia never bothered because it was and still is just a mining colony. The infinite immigration is just to cover the operating costs and subsidies. While the property prices are just a capital sink for global inflation dollars because there is no inheritance tax.
>>693626142Clouds are formed mainly as a result of temperature differences between the surface air and high atmospheric air combined with humidity. What do you think oceans do? Increase humidity and exacerbate surface temperature differences.
>>693619562They used to produced kino cars, but GM ruined it.
>>693623057Honestly a good idea and in 200 years Australia might be a lush continent with waterfront cities dotted around the interior. It would take big money, hard work and incredible gumption to get it done which doesn't describe the Australian people at all. The natives (and their supporters) would fight it too because it would flood their stupid cave paintings or something.
>>693627587The property prices are directly to benefit politicians (who are all landlords) and their friends in Finance/Banking.
>>693627002Yes, the first one is very explicitly set in Australia (they talk about the Australian government and mention Australian locations on multiple occasions), the second movie is a continuation of the first and logically takes place at least on the same continent. The third movie is more ambiguous, and Fury Road is even moreso (not even filmed in Australia, whereas the first three were)
>>693627957i see, it was kinda hard to understand what they were saying in the first movie because of their accents and the sound mixing
>>693623724All true, and I'd like to say that anon should see how most Australians will take any opporuntity to piss on the USA they can get (Brits too), it's the most obvious example of culture-wide tall poppy syndrome. It's pathetic.
>>693623132In a nutshell:>get obviously fucked over be politicians decade after decade >continue to vote them in>pretend you're a badass rebel
>>693619721>Why don't Aussies use their own resources?Because people keep repeatedly voting in the Liberals and they keep doing the exact same thing every single time they're in, that is selling all of our resources to foreign companies for little profit for the country itself and destroying all of our infrastructure + services. Then eventually they'll get booted out because of some retarded reason before their masters decide it's time to boot Labour because they're actually targeting these coal companies who are abusing the people and creating a functioning economy. That's when the slander campaigns start simultaneously on all the media outlets nationwide because they're all practically owned by 2 guys who both side with the cock gargling Liberal party.
>>693619562Quadrupled down on mining instead of any consideration for what happened when we run out of stuff to mine lead to a massive brain drain where anyone capable of manufacturing, design or development leaves the country because there's no value working here or way to even get started as a company. T. PhD in chemistry that is moving to Europe since there's 0 future in Australia for me.
>>693627926Anon the politicians in Australia are the biggest middlemen. They are all looking for their next jobs. Property is a static investment that you sink stable money into. With all the money that central banks print and hand out to private banks directly, they need a stable asset to throw it into. This is why the west globally has horrible property prices and inheritance tax is the primary issue. This is also exacerbated in Australia by middle class migration from shitholes and things like negative gearing.
>>693628691>we didn't leftism hard enoughEvery single time
>>693628814Inheritance tax disproportionately targets the middle class, by preventing them from building generational wealth. It's pulling up the ladder.
>>693628851As opposed to,>I don't really have any issues. I just think it's time for a new government, you know? I'm vibing with that idea
>>693629220Except it doesn't. Inheritance tax targets those who are receiving large sums over 100-200k. Wealth inequality in Australia is insane and it is tied to the insane property prices.
>>693628851keep voting them in goy surely another 15 years of libs will work this time
>>693629610We literally have a Labor government right now why aren't things any better
>none set in AustraliaWronghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RPdA9yCta8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGykmw1M_Y4
>>693628691It doesn't matter who people vote for. Only Labor and Liberals have enough representatives to get elected. Enough of the country literally ONLY has representatives from Labor or Liberal that one of them will get elected off that alone.>>693629574An Inheritance tax fundamentally only effects people who aren't rich enough to afford expensive accounts who know all the loopholes to not pay it.
>>693629445>>693629610>you're either Lib or LabYou're not thinking with portals>>693629574Rich people can afford inheritance tax. Middle class and poor cannot. >sums over 100kEven a shithouse in Back Of is worth more than that. Thanks for proving my point. Richie Ritch can sell some of his stock options in Daddy's business to pay off the tax, Paddy B down the street has to sell the ancestral family home to come close to affording it. Leftist policies exist to punish the middle class for being kulak class traitors, long before they punish the 1% rich. Remember, the Leninists went after small businessowners and family farms first.
>>693629574fuck off cunt Ill be getting a few milly from my parents eventually (only child and parents well off) and dont want to give the government having any of that.
>>693630142>don't wantdo you think they care?
>>693630193most politicians and their associates are rich and they wont want their children getting stung with inheritence tax. It will never happen.
>>693629916>Rich people can afford inheritance taxRich people can afford to AVOID Inheritance tax. There's two things that people fundamentally fail to realize when discussing tax policy1. People with significant wealth are not tied to their physical location to the same degree the lower classes are2. If you try to take their money they'll just fucking leaveLower class people have most of their equity tied up in their home. A lower middle class Australian might have a net worth of $750k, but $500k of that is their house. Meanwhile someone with actual money might have $4 million tied up in a house, but it's a far smaller amount relative to their net worth.You cannot, fundamentally, tax your way to prosperity. Increasing taxes does not generate wealth, it does not increase the amount of money the government generates even. Taxes simply slow down the economy until it grinds to a halt and you go into recession. Lower tax rates mean more spending, more spending means each dollar spent gets taxed more times as it changes hands.Unfortunately this country is run by room temperature IQ inbreds who don't actually understand the basics of commerce.
>>693623057Your plan to make the centre of Australia arable is to put it under salt water?
>>693618597they should cut it in half
>>693629792An inheritance tax closes so many of those loopholes.>>693629916>the ancestral family homelmao no retard, if you are SELLING your 'ancestral' fibroshack in liverpool for 1.6 million then you should be taxed accordingly. You don't have to rebuy your house. But when your cunt sisters are demanding their cut you will realise. The 'middle' class you are describing is covering the upper middle class which have portfolios in the multimillions.The wealth disparity in Australia is primarily against the lower class.Also small businesses in Australia are utterly insignificant and farms were destroyed decades ago.>>693630142I don't give a shit. There are plenty of leeches who think they are entitled to 'generational wealth' because their scumbag boomer parents own 4 properties. I've met dozens of deadshits who are practically NEETs and will never try because they know they will never amount to anything and their family is going to hand them millions.The "I got mine" and "I'm going to get mine" cunts are the worst. This is why the country is being flooded with indians and the currency is allowed to crater.
>>693629574>Wealth inequality in Australia is insane and it is tied to the insane property prices.The insane property prices are a result of tax breaks put in by the Howard government. Nothing to do with inheritance.
>>693630317Anon you should hear about this thing called the water cycle, it will fucking blow your mind.
>>693630317It would change the weather and landscape.
>>693619017Meth
>>693630386stay mad poorfag
>>693630386>An inheritance tax closes so many of those loopholes.No, it doesn't. And if we by some miracle had a huge tax reform that did? I'd just get a plane ticket, because I can do that (I can also avoid the exit tax, because that's only there to stop people who don't know how to legally evade taxes).
>>693630434There won't be a landscape if its underwater
>>693630570around it
>>693627046Seriously? After the pokefag, Sonicautism and ponygger crazes, THIS surprises you?
>>693630458Californian here I just want to thank you for Violent Soho Hungry Ghost and Waco are great albums.
>>693630605Around it there is already agricultureEnjoy your soil becoming salinized
>>693630650around currently looks like OP
>>693630415I think you need reading lessons, I never said inheritance had anything to do with property prices. I said wealth inequality, let me break it down so it is simple for you.>Property prices = wealth inequality>Wealth inequality = Inheritance>Inheritance =/= Property prices>Property prices = InheritanceWhen creating policy you also treat related areas which are affected. So yes you can repeal the CGT or negative gearing (will never happen tho, too many crabs in the bucket) but it there will still be issues with intergenerational wealth.
>>693630458Shit didn't mean to reply to you my bad
>>693630631i mean sonic and pokemon, i sort of get it becuase the games are kinda fun and i guess people want to fuck the ponies, but this? its just bland the only reason i watched it is because my nephew was watching it and is the most bland cartoon i've ever seen. is this what modern cartoons are? its fucking boring for a kids show so i dont understand how adults like it
>>693630693>I never said inheritance had anything to do with property prices>Wealth inequality in Australia is insane and it is tied to the insane property prices.I think you need a brain transplant
>>693630452If people take their generational wealth and leave, great. Less crabs in the bucket. Australia would still be rich and now doesn't have as many leeches. Taking your ball and leaving isn't as much of a threat as you think.
>>693630764Anon I genuinely think you might be retarded or ESL in the least.>Wealth inequality in Australia is insane and it is tied to the insane property prices.Inheritance is not mentioned in this sentence at all. The fact you can't see that shows you are cooked.
>>693630386>retard leftwit doesn't know what inheritance tax isYou get taxed when you inherit the property, dolt. When the deed gets signed over, the government charges you a bill. In many cases, poorer people have to sell the inherited property to afford the inheritance tax on it.
>>693622951Australian interior is too flat, New Zealand's interior is miniscule. Wild West kino can only work in America, Canada, Mexico, Peru, Bolivia, Xinjiang, Sea of Japan, fucking everywhere but Australasia
>>693630981>Except it doesn't. Inheritance tax targets those who are receiving large sums over 100-200k. Wealth inequality in Australia is insane and it is tied to the insane property prices.So now you're not advocating for an inheritance tax?>but it there will still be issues with intergenerational wealth.Oh wait yes you are, you dopey cunt
>>693625336This. Australia has low orography, and lies underneath a high pressure belt
>>693630786>If people take their generational wealth and leave, great. Less crabs in the bucket.You are, frankly, a fucking moron. Australia wouldn't "still" be rich, Australia isn't rich to begin with. You're buying into the idiotic "Lucky Country" propaganda and failing to realize how much wealth Australia loses year over year because of the very same government graft and overreach you're arguing for more of.Let me give you an example. Australia exports natural gas. Australia exports roughly the same amount of Natural Gas as Qatar. Qatar receives on average about 85 billion USD a year for their natural gas. Australia receives ~2.4 billion. That's where all our money goes. Taxing middle class people out of their homes won't recoup even a full percentage of that. It will simply make Australia shittier for everyone except the political class.What you're arguing for is Australia with no money buy an infinite amount of jeets working in the mining sector so every single resource in this country can be strip mined and sold off with none of the money staying in Australia.As of right now, Australia has 27 million people. It has ~11 million people who are employed. Of those people, according to the ABS 46% are Underemployed (ie don't make enough to pay more tax than they receive in benefits). This leaves you with ~5.5 million people. The Australian public sector has ~3 million employees, that is to say, they're paid out of tax, rather than paying into it.In other words, Australia has no tax base.People who actually pay tax in Australia are an EXTREME MINORITY already, putting more burden on the Australian middle class because you buy into some asinine commie propaganda is just going to turn Australia into even more of a slum full of Indians.
>>693630415>>693630693>>693630764It's actually a deeper more complex issue.1. Yes, Howard's changes to negative gearing and pivoting the economy to property as investment assets played a role.2. Australia has signed with the Tranche 2 accords because of powerful developer, real estate and lawyer lobbies. This means Australia is a haven for money laundering, which is mainly done through cash property purchases.3. Wealthy Chinese have been fleeing China for the past decade and buying up property in Australia. They aren't price sensitive and have millions in disposable cash.4. Developers keeping supply artificially low to drive up property prices and increase profits. 5. Lack of low skilled migration resulting in very few labourers, builders and construction workers coming in to the country.It's a perfect storm scenario.
>>693630982Anon there is no inheritance tax here and the policy space is open for any options. Saying it has to be a certain way is idiotic because there is no way. It sounds like you are looking for a loophole to said tax.Lets say we go that route tho>Parent A dies, leaves asset worth 1.2 million>Inheritor cannot afford 5% inheritance tax $60000>A) Inheritor sells because they cannot front tax>B) Inheritor puts the house up for collateral and easily gets $60000, lets say at an interest rate of 4% over 15 years (which is retardedly out of proportion) you would need to put forward 100 a week.The house would appreciate more than the fucking loan if you needed to pay the tax. It is the most non issue ever.
>>693631119Anon, have you switched from being ESL? Maybe go back and have a think on the original post because you were too busy being wrong about a sentence.
>>693631402I quoted your original post there, now all you're doing is going around and around in circles because you can't admit you're wrongWatch, you won't make any more arguments from this point onwards
My parents are dead so I support an inheritance tax.
>>693631286The Australian property market is going to remain fucked regardless of negative gearing. What the inbred retards that run this country didn't realize is that Fiat currency is not real. Property in Australia has simply replaced the Gold Standard. Same thing in Canada.Fiat currency cannot exist, nobody wants your money if it cannot be redeemed for something reliable. In Australia, the currency is backed by Australian real estate.>>693631356>C) Australian Reserve bank changes interest rates on a whim, anyone with an outstanding tax debt gets fucked in the ass, as a result large property developers/investor groups start buying up huge swathes of property to Rent
>>693631286Based except for point 5. Plenty of uber drivers and pizza hut workers flocking to our countries
>>693627205No it isn't
>>693631575barren wasteland with the entire population clinging to the coast
>>693622340I've literally never seen this tall poppy meme actually happen.What's actually the case is that australians are extremely uninterested in politics.
>>693631251Ahh this is where you are the moron. See the reason Australia doesn't exploit it's resources properly is because it has so many crabs. The crabs are too busy fighting over those scraps. The jeets come here for the property market and the lax tax laws (more crabs in the bucket).>The ABS 46% are Underemployed (ie don't make enough to pay more tax than they receive in benefits)Except the underemployment isn't that at all, it is tied to hours not income. You can work full-time and earn fuck all whilst not being classified as underemployed. There is also a lesser used methodologies that tie underutilisation but again nothing to do with earnings and more tied to uber drivers who are qualified engineers.So pretty much everything after your first paragraph is non-sense. I'm also ignoring you not accounting the APS for taxation.The people who pay tax in Australia are not in an extreme minority. The people who pay overwhelming amounts of tax in australia are younger and lower class. The middle class claims everything and most of our tax (which as you covered in your first paragraph goes to how bullshit our resources system is.So no, crabs leaving the bucket will if anything cause it to tip and release the rest of us.
>No g'day Ty>It's just mongs arguing about /pol/shitGod you fags need to kill yourselves
Oh boy is this le heckin Australian le circle jerk?Cunt cunt cunt le politics le doom posting le I le fingered le hexdo i le fit in guys? XDDD
>>693631749Look at the post immediately after yours. It's right there.
>>693631286Yeah, I had to dumb it down for him. Australia is a global capital of white collar crime as the banking royal commission showed. 5 is actually important as fuck, but it has to do more with the way our 'low skilled' professions are defined. As >>693631564put it, those dickheads cannot do those jobs where as a 'low skilled' linesman needed 5+ years to get where he is and couldn't be imported. That's more than a degree, most of which were in art history or fucking communications.
>>693628851Liberals aren't right wing and labor aren't left.
>>693632017>not real leftism
>>693631470Anon you haven't actually said anything. You said>You need a brain transplantFor a sentence you couldn't read properly to>Now you aren't advocating for thing you are advocating forYou legit have not said a single thing besides REEEEEE. I am all for an inheritance tax and you have not suggested anything otherwise. Please just stop being a retarded and form a coherent sentence.
>>693631523>C) Australian Reserve bank changes interest rates on a whim, anyone with an outstanding tax debt gets fucked in the ass, as a result large property developers/investor groups start buying up huge swathes of property to RentExcept you aren't forced to borrow from the RBA, you can't even borrow from the RBA. The loan I suggested is so wildly in your favour that the banks won't even entertain it because they get nothing out of it. 5% and even 8-10% on a home are so wildly low because of how stupidly good they are as assets.
>>693631924Yeah this is probably the most australian thing you could have done to contribute to the aussie thread.
>>693632181There is no loan. What you suggested is a DEBT subject to interest rate adjustments by the RBA.
>>693632108See? I told you you wouldn't make an argument. Do you even know why you're responding to me anymore? What did you disagree with? Do you even remember?
>>693632081Correct
>>693632081>Anti-union>Pro-banking and RBA retardation>Privatised the shit out of everything>Love devaluing local labour markets>Entire term will just consist of appointing executives from their university (deakin/UC) instead of the rich uni (uni melb/ANU)It's the same party anon, one just pretends to cry about the boats and useless fucking small business. If the nats actually were smart they would have dissolved the coalition yonks ago.
>Renting Boomer parents selling grandma's house because they "just want it to be over with"How's your inheritance holding up bros? No doubt mine will be spent on a holiday to Europe and then wasted on exorbitant aged care costs
>>693625474i bought 5 years ago and mine has almost doubled in value. and that's just the council valuation for rates which i understand they always slightly undervalue to avoid pissing people off
>>693618415Ty the Tasmanian Tiger
>>693632248Anon I've already laid out my argument. You were the one who devolved into nonsense and demanded I admit i'm wrong without saying anything besides arbitrary green text.
>>693631523>Same thing in Canada.Is your labour market fucked with pajeets too? fuck man, they don't even speak english over here I fucking hate them. they've fucking decimated our country
>>693632617>Anon I've already laid out my argument.Then what are you responding to?
>>693632503The only hope for young people is either>their parents don't waste their inheritance, so the son or daughter gets money/a propertyor>the parent/s die before wasting it all, and you still get somethingThat may or may not have happened to the anon replying to you. It's not certain because I'm still waiting on the money.
>>693632620Yes, 27 million people and we got a million pajeets last year (not counting non-resident students who will never leave).
>>693618773>They only exist near the coastI have 10k sheep and i'm the desert.
>>693632689>I have 10k sheepWow. You must be wealthy, then. Do you ever visit the city and spend it?
>>693632503Anon, if your inheritance will be gone from a single euro holiday. You never had one. Boomers are getting so much from appreciating values that they can afford 8 months of trips yearly and barely make a dent.
>>693632423>>693632307You deserve your chains. At this point, might as well just let China have ya
>>693632771No anon, the only house my parents own is the one they inherited and are about to sell.
>>693632783>China boogieman>The "leftist" party has spent even more money on defence than the "right" who use them as boogie men>Meanwhile still our largest trading partner and are going to takeover at any momentPlease do just let them have us
>>693632809>the only house my parents own is the one they inherited and are about to sell.If that's true then the only chance is your parent or parents party too hard and they can't blow your inheritance. I'm pretty sure my dad did a James Gandolfini. Look up how he died if you don't know.
>>693632809Jesus yeah you got the short stick, that's ok I never even had one. My single mum is the one who asks me for money lmao.
>>693618415Ahem.
>>693632880This is what I meant by James Gandolfini.https://nypost.com/2013/06/21/sopranos-star-james-gandolfini-guzzled-at-least-eight-drinks-during-his-final-meal-source/Basically, the guy ate and drank as much as he could, and eventually had a heart attack.
>>693631994Ah I get what you mean. How high skill and low skill professions are defined is a fucking sham. A degree in communications in Jakarta institute is more valued than a linesman with years of experience, or any highly trained and qualified trademan, according to the property guzzling politicans.
>>693618415And do what? It's a noguns authoritarian shithole. All you'd do in the game is kneel before politicians and police before getting arrested for wrongthink.
>>693632783If china invaded I would instantly betray australia and help them in any way possible.
>>693632503>paternal grandmother wanted to cut me into a nice chunk but that fell through because she didn't have poa>maternal grandparents are probably gonna through everything via retirement homes or in home care>mom has a bit of liquid>dad is one the highest functioning alcoholics/drug addicts to have existed and either has absolutely nothing or a giant pile of money hidden somewhere>no help and work for everything ive gotten while seeing every other 20-35 year old in the families doing great because they got huge step up in lifei hate my life so fucking much its unreal
>>693633475skin colour?
>>693618817It's illegal here so don't look at me.
>>693632783Liberalism is the most anti conservative force that has ever existed.
>>693633492Blue eyed white man
>>693620651Fucking hell, looking up what the word 'wog' means then seeing you bring up italians made me kek
>>693633490>dad is one the highest functioning alcoholics/drug addicts to have existed and either has absolutely nothing or a giant pile of money hidden somewhereI hope for your sake he has money stashed. I'm this anon: >>693632990My dad had money because he sold his house, and I'm guessing that's why he passed not long after, lol. Nobody wants to be old anyway.
>>693633492Purple
>>693633492Whiter than you.
>>693621158Just do it anyway. Multigenerational homes are the norm everywhere else and were here up till the 1950s.
>>693633604Italians are wogs.
>>693633490>maternal grandparents are probably gonna through everything via retirement homes or in home carefortunately this will never be me. i'll happily drink myself to death before i consent to being put in a home. why do boomers find value in sacrificing their children's inheritance so jeets can wipe their ass while they wither away for their final 10 years? it's such an undignified way to go out, not to mention a genuine waste of the wealth you spent years scraping together from your efforts as a wagie
>>693618415Path of Exile
>>693633736>it's such an undignified way to go outIt is. People who love until they're too old to move around are just afraid of dying, and it's not about wasting money. I'm not afraid at all, being a poor person. I'll likely last as long as my dad did, and then I'll be happily gone. I didn't have much fun in this place. I was poor most of my life, and I spent my time on 4chan.
>>693633796People who live until*
>>693633796>I didn't have much fun in this place. I was poor most of my life, and I spent my time on 4chan.Gunna get this on my tombstone
>>693629574>Inheritance tax targets those who are receiving large sums over 100-200kSo basically anyone trying to leave a house to their kids is turbo fucked because that's 1/10th of the average family home.
>>693633796>I'm not afraid at all, being a poor personi've been decently fortunate in life and all signs point to that only improving for me, and yet i'm not afraid of my mortality and won't be engaging in elderly life extension copes. it's not a money thing, most people are just cowards. keep it real nigga, hope things get better for you
>>693633847I'm completely serious. Anyone who's poor knows the feeling. You don't get to do anything as a poor person, and you're kind of just keeping yourself alive. That's why I hope everyone has some kind of inheritance or gets lucky in another way. Being poor is like forced NPC mode.
https://www.giantbomb.com/mount-panorama-circuit/3035-4110/games/
>>693633916I know you're serious and so am I. I got sick of wagey life so I am on centrelink now. Literally same chances of ever owning my own home (zero) but now I don't have to lose 50 hours a week working for kikes who hate me
>>693623912I am not an expert but I'm sure with enough tons of dynamite you could build a channel in 2 years max.
>>693619562>produces basically nothing
>need 170k just to have the privilege of paying 5k a month for 30 years>i only earn 1k a week>after expenses, being as frugal as possible, i could save 25k a year>it will take me 7 years to get this money together>meanwhile the houses would probably have gone up meaning i need a few extra years ontopYay...?
>>693633916If you were too stupid to get money that's your fault.
>>693630386Yeah a million dollars is jack shit these days. Your idea of what money is worth is stuck in the 1960s. They used to say if you had 10k you were at escape velocity, now that figure is 100k.
>>693633972>I got sick of wagey life so I am on centrelink now.Are you? I don't even get Centrelink because I couldn't be fucked doing what they asked. That means at this moment, I have less money than you. I know a thing or two about the struggle.
Because the United Sates has a practical monopoly on publishing.
>>693619651I googled it and it reckons we're 28th in the world for steel production so yeah
>>693634063They need to make sure everything's got their gay brainwashing instead of everyone else's gay brainwashing
>>693634057Yeah but I have a history of clinical depression so they don't make me do anything. Literally zero responsibilities because I might kill myself. I'm like everyone's goth girlfriend from highschool.
>>693622369There goes a fat, dumb american lying again.
>>693634127>I have a history of clinical depression so they don't make me do anything. Literally zero responsibilities because I might kill myselfLucky you. I'm depressed, but I don't even want to meet with them so they can find out. I don't want to speak anyone anymore, and I'm just waiting around to die now. I sleep whenever possible just to pass the time.
>>693619562Because of the United States.
>>693633625>I hope for your sakewe are talking about a nigger jew in all but skin color that made in the ball park of 5 mill in 12 years not even including my stepmom who was around most of that time that made a shitpile too that foreclosed on his house in 2011. A 150k house built in 2003 while they were making that money. When I was 18 he dropped me off at a friends house without having said anything to said friends parents about me living there, I had to broach that a few weeks before. He said he'd give me 1k for graduation. He showed up with 100 bucks and along with my aunt blocked my grandmother from putting me on the will. Your offhand comment has more concern for me than he ever did. >>693633736I have to assume its something to do with living through a great time and still having it good in this time of shit for most people. It's weird seeing your formerly 350 lb, 6' 10 brick shit house of a grandad drop half that weight and spending his days face down on the floor fact checking random things said by other people with a "nuh uh" or "didn't happen". He brought a lot of it on himself though spending a lot of his life sitting there watching tv, my grandma will probably make it to her 90's decently intact physically and mentally if he doesnt drag her down
>>693634197>sleep whenever possible just to pass the timeBeen there. I don't get enough neetbux to afford rent + food + depression meds which is funny but a bit of a bummer because if they give you downers you can just take a few of them and it zonks you out for like 12+ hours, allowing you to speedrun expiration by natural causes.They're clever though they never give you enough to kill yourself (it would take like 10k pills or more to suicide).
>>693634197Basically, if I was given a million dollars, I would probably continue to do nothing. I would just order food, probably smoke cigarettes, and then eventually be dead. That may actually happen one day. >>693634258>Your offhand comment has more concern for me than he ever did.It has concern because this anon never had shit. I went to public school (it was complete garbage) and I never got to do anything in life. That means I hope everyone like me gets something before they die. Having nothing means you don't even exist, like I don't exist.
>>693621119Sure, the whole bushranger period is basically the australian RDR.
>>693634336>probably smoke cigarettesright now that is more affordable than it has been for about 15 years or so. our recently imported criminal underclass is selling black market durries in every CBD convenience store in the country. apparently it has put a significant dent in government revenue because obviously people are just buying the illegal darts with no excise paid on them
>>693634462>apparently it has put a significant dent in government revenue because obviously people are just buying the illegal darts with no excise paid on themThat shit happens at my local convenience store. They sell ciggies that are half the price. Good for anyone who's serious about smoking, I guess. I just buy Winfield because it's 1 pack of that or 2 packs of the cheap shit. What's the difference. If I smoke the two packs, I'll still be out, so I just buy Winfield.
>>693634535buy the import marlboros, they're actually better than the official ones with the cuck packets and they're half the price. they are price gouging the vapes though since the government banned them. it is currently cheaper to smoke than vape in this country. i wish clown world wasn't real
>>693634829>buy the import marlborosThis is what I buy if I'm on a budget. You can get a carton for _half_ the price of Winfield. Really good value, to be honest.
>>693634829>>693634889Where do you buy shit like this? Just any rando asian grocer / corner shop likely to have em?
>>693634913You won't find that shit at the supermarket, and you need to find a place that sells cigarettes. The one near me has it, and you can buy a whole carton for $160 or something. When Winfield 40s still existed, that would be two 40 packs.
>>693634889yeah the south east asian lady in the leb shop offered me some of those but i havent tried them yet. how to they compare against marlboros, winnies or stuyvies for example, in terms of taste?>>693634913literally any convenience store in the CBD near you and plenty of suburban tobacconists are in on it too
>>693629574You've never heard of a discretionary trust have you?
>>693634952I meant to say a place that sells cigarettes and isn't a franchise. The franchise ones may not have it either.
>>693635056>how to they compare against marlboros, winnies or stuyvies for example, in terms of taste?They taste fine, but strength-wise it's>better than nicotine gum>weaker than winfieldSo that's the trade for paying half. I've smoked tons so I can measure strength by smoking it.
>>693629792>An Inheritance tax fundamentally only effects people who aren't rich enough to afford expensive accounts who know all the loopholes to not pay it.Australians are proving what bootlicking scum they are "jUsT tAx It MoRe". They are the reason this country is a shithole.
>>693634017Don't worry, Banks have different lending criteria for the 1,000s of pajeets per week we're importing, so they're already ahead of you in getting a house. Don't you love the diversity?
>>693618415>Why are there no games set in Australia?newest fake monster hunter is definitely australia>everything is brown because it's a desert >all wildlife is dangerous>jews and inbreds
>>693634010the only image itt low quality enough to load on australian internet
>>693635193N-not particularly...I wish the entire country was homogenous in religion, ethnicity and values.
>>693618415my game is set in australia
>>693635418Australian internet used to be much worse. I pirated Oblivion when it came out and it took me a week. The internet is much better now, and if you want fast internet, try the middle of the night; that's the best time to download shit. >>693635450>I wish the entire country was homogenous in ethnicityLol, based. The only good thing about diversity is the food, but it's pretty shit otherwise. Australia seems like a really relaxed country, but it's probably number 1 when it comes to silent racism. Everyone clearly hates the people that aren't their race, but nobody is saying anything. I can't see it ending well at all. I look forward to dying and diversity not being my problem, though.
>>693623057Oy vey what about muh poor heckin aborino sacred lands goy. Don't you know that 6 million abos were killed by far right white supremacists in 1788.
>>693618415ty1 2 and 3 does.
>>693633012Yeah pretty much. The thing is tho that those linesman are paid a fuckload more but they indoctrinate you in high school that university is the only pathway. Then you get slapped with a huge amount of debt and a useless degree.That would be fine in a 'tough shit' scenario but...>Government debt>Doesn't follow any of the normal rules>Due to it being an 'investment' from the state it can never be classified as a negative debt>This means your feminist theory degree can never be set as a loss even if you are bankrupt>Will always follow inflationary patterns>Often given to a retarded 16 year old who wouldn't even qualify for a credit cardThe country hates you and wants you to be a serf.
>>693633856It isn't a tax for EVERYTHING over 100-200k anon. It is a tax on a scale above that. So what would likely happen is your kid would get your house but would sell their apartment/property and move into yours or sell the house you leave them. They still receive a huge portion, just not everything.
>>693619017crack heads and eshays
>>693634017Anon you shouldn't earn 1k a week. These days shitkicker WFH jobs are like 95k a year.t. shitkicker WFH who earns 110k a year and works 3 hours a day.
>>693627268>They would need to reforest the whole fucking continent again before they could start looking at turning it into heartlandsAnnnnd why don't we do this like China has been?
>>693636857Because it's still a prison colony except the prisoners are convinced they have a say what the wardens do to them
>>693628498>>get obviously fucked over be politicians decade after decadeyep that's us.
>>693636856I have no qualifications and I'm stuck in a renttrap because of poor parents
>>693634029My idea of money is that it is essentially worthless, 100k is nothing. What you need is property and ideally no mortgage.
>>693635060You've never heard of s.100a have you? The ATO is huge now anon. Your lebo trust scam doesn't work anymore.
>>693631845>The people who pay overwhelming amounts of tax in australia are younger and lower class. The middle class claims everything and most of our tax (which as you covered in your first paragraph goes to how bullshit our resources system is.I work for the ATO. That's complete horseshit.
So if there was an Aussie game. It would be a sims colony game where every advisor is a lazy cunt with an agenda right?
>>693628498>Australians are docile and submissive peopleThis is very true, which is why I'm so blackpilled by the state of things. If things are getting worse (and they are), then it means the people in charge of this country don't even care about the population. There are good people in this country; how do they not care? I'm sure they'll care eventually when everyone is a shitskin, but the two digit IQ fucks in charge of Australia are so shortsighted. Even if rich people care about no one, they should care about themselves. When they meet diversity, they'll understand what everyone was complaining about.
>>693628498sounds like american republicans
>>693634017You just need to cut back on those subscriptions and avo toast you greedy millennial. Back in my day I didn't have either of those things and I sacrificed by working hard and saving for my property that was only 3-4x my annual salary. Never mind that Mrs Boomer didn't work back then either so no second income to help raise our family. Also never mind that the 1+ acre block I bought I subsequently subdivided so now I have two properties. You're just greedy and want a mansion for nothing.
>>693637310This is what boomers actually believe.
>>693637212Imagine being offered a million dollars, but the deal is you have to live in Africa. That's the future for every rich person. They'll have money, but what will they even do with it? Just hide, I guess. Hide with their tiny fucking brains and think long and hard about how they reached that point. It's like being owner of 4chan in 2024.>heh, i have the rights to this public toilet.
>>693637310>>693637339Take solace in the fact they're all going to be heavily abused by brownskinned aged care workers. For the next 40 years we're going to be laughing our asses off watching these people be brutalized and wondering why young australians aren't lifting a finger to save them.
>>693618415coz its empty aside from the billions of pajeets and chinks in apartment blocks and copy pasted pop up estates
>>693636856>These days shitkicker WFH jobs are like 95k a year.Would you mind showing me all these wonderful jobs that pay you for doing 3 hours of work? Because I ain't seeing them.
>>693636986I was like that, move into a sharehouse. I lived in a sharehouse and went to tafe. Moved around a bit. Being able to move is probably only reason I have climbed from being homeless to supporting my single mum. One of the big helps was that if you take the train, luggage isn't a big deal at all. I moved from QLD to Canberra on the train and it was quite easy.
>>693619036you'd be very wrong about that anon, it's jam packed in the liveable areas, if you want to live in the country best hope you have a job out there doing something obscure
>>693618415The Mad Max game
>>693637393Well the 3 hours of work requires some effort in automation. Depends on what pathway you are on but you can get plenty of office jobs with boomers who can't even format an excel spreadsheet. Then you just setup some powerquery's and shit if you want to get technical run it through chatgpt. Whole thing is easy as.That being said it will never beat being a tradie. While those guys have to work, it is much healthier. Become a boilermaker or a sparky if you can.
>>693637380>its empty aside from the billions of pajeets and chinks in apartment blocksThat's the future, and not right now. The country is just headed to that point. You have to wonder why anyone would want to be in charge of that country. You can't even guess what the government is thinking.
>>693632721faggot only visits to fuck bogan whores to change up from petrol huffers
>>693637438I already share accommodation with my single mum.
>>693633916Retard I grew up poor and I still consider getting the name brand instead of black and gold splurgingThe internet is free endless entertainment, this is literally just "let me guess, you need more" shit
>>693637150Of course a public servant like you knows nothing. The stats show at 25-45 male low/middle income pay the majority of the tax while not using any services. Where as middle/upper people pay a larger share of tax they also minimise the shit out of it and retirees are cashed up as fuck, don't pay any tax and use a shitload of services.Then when you take into account bracket creep and higher mortality rates in anyone who was born post 1985 has is and always will be getting fucked.This is why the fake workers 'work' at the ATO and all your managers consult out to get the real information. Just like the policy heads don't implement half the shit they get shown because the minister knows it will be used against them during the election. Fuck the mere whisper of negative gearing was in the news cycle for 2-3 weeks and it was over nothing.
>>693637573Ahh better off cutting the cord in that case anon. If your mum can't afford a place, there are heaps of government housing spots for women. Then you are given the option to make something for yourself and you won't have the negative aura that comes from living with your parent as an adult.
>>693638235Nah, I can't abandon her. Fuck the stigma, if a girl cares about me living with my mother, she's not the one.
>>693638171I'd like to see proof of this because every day I see what income is made and how much tax is paid for dozens and dozens of people day after day after day and what I consistently see is the more money you make the more fucked you are by taxes. Also, the more you make the harder the ATO is going to come down on you.
Fuck this gay cunt tree. Someone should take all our politicians hostage and demand change. And then when the judge asks why they should just say I was only having a laugh mate.
>>693638663>Someone should take all our politicians hostage and demand changeThat's a really dumb suggestion, buddy. There's ways to protest a garbage country without landing yourself in jail. You can just not contribute. Someone said they quit being a wagie and went on Centrelink because they were poor either way, and that's how you protest. If nothing changes, then at least you weren't part of their machine, and they can't make slaves of dead people, which we all become eventually. >don't have kids>don't contributeThat's the best way to vote, if you're not happy.
>>693637518>boilermaker>healthierHuffing welding fumes all day is healthy now?
>>693638887>welding>fumesit's not 1750 anymore lad
>>693638842already doin it sarg. On DSP and leeching like a mofo. rent is 440 a fortnite and paid by wageys.
>>693625307Still smarter than jeets
>>693638842>Someone said they quit being a wagie and went on Centrelink because they were poor either wayUnless something has changed recently they don't let you just go on Centrelink and stay on it indefinitely. Also, Centrelink pays well below minimum wage. You're way poorer on Centrelink than having a shit job that pays the bare minimum.
>>693619017We have to have special fuel for the car.
>>693636801>at. So what would likely happen is your kid would get your house but would sell their apartment/property and move into yours or sell the house you leave them. They still receive a huge portion, just not everything.fuck off and die
>>693638984Yeah, great. I'm glad you have passive income. Nobody can say "fuck you" to society without a bit of money coming in. I've felt the same way my whole life>do nothing>notice nobody cares>continue doing nothingI'm in my 30s now, and I'm fine with what happened. To suffer society, you need to be a part of it, which I'm not. I spent my life on the internet, and the real world must be total fucking shit, because my website was flooded with the people I'm trying to avoid.
>>693618415>Australia has a massive basin with fertile land the size of France and Germany combined.What does that have to do with it being a good setting for games?
>>693628691as if Labor is much better>how do we solve this insane housing crisis>increase demand by importing hundreds of thousands of jeets each year and just build like 50k more legoland houses of the course of 4 years that’ll work I’m sureboth major parties are fuckwits
>>693639163He's a pro immigration shill
>>693639189>>increase demand by importing hundreds of thousands of jeetsYou know that was ScoMo right?
>>693638416Then you would notice all those people above 130k who are negative gearing and realising that their properties are increasing in value better than pretty much any fund whilst offsetting any tax they pay. So a good chunk of their tax is just going straight into what would for most accounts be regarded as the best savings account imaginable.
>>693620798completely fucked
>>693630386>An inheritance tax closes so many of those loopholes.It doesn't, the way you close loopholes is rounding the people who exploit them up and killing them. Doesn't matter what your system of rules is, if there is a dedicated group of people putting their effort into breaking it they will continue to break it.
>>693639293>whilst offsetting any tax they payNope.
>>693639365The mistake people make is a lot of things they call "loopholes" are actually things that were deliberately put there and put there for a reason. The idea the tax system is riddled with "loopholes" that allow people to cheat their way out of paying taxes is a myth. What there actually is is a lot of very specific scenarios that allow you to claim deductions or offsets or whatever and if it doesn't apply then you just pay the fucking tax.
>>693638887>making 70 an hour>full ppe so no fumes or issues, wear a fucking cooling vest if you get hot>get paid from station to site>Also paid for toolboxes, planning and debriefs (which take ages cause project managers love the sound of their own voice)>Regular smokos>Regular chats>Generally chill>Plenty of FIFO jobs>Got mates who work for 3-5 months then just take the rest of the year offHonestly I feel silly not going it especially when you get tethered to a desk regularly.
>>693618415>isopod still doesnt have a release datelazy fucks
>>693639290>both major parties are fuckwitslearn2read nigger
>>693639132lmao, get a job you fucking leech
>>693639745nta. NO
>>693639389You must get the retard piles, They are missing out on 8-25k in tax deductions. Not to mention all the other shit, the system is completely skewed to those who earn more.
>>693638926>>693639627I know 2 blokes who went to become boilermakers and both fucking hated it. I know a bunch of guys who are just welders who aren't even qualified boilermakers and they all hate it too.I dunno where you're getting your info but I'm going to trust the 10+ dudes I know IRL who work in that field.
>>693638984Where the hell do you live that rent is only 220 a week?
>>693639745also nta, dance for shekelstein, bitch
>>693639745Get back in your cage, wagie. I want an increase on my newstart payments.Back to work tomorrow morning, there's a good goy.
>>693639848>They are missing out on 8-25k in tax deductionsYou have to actually be eligible for it. It's not like there's all these blanket deductions that are available as long as your income is over a certain amount. It doesn't work that way at all.You sound like one of those idiots who thinks you can dodge liability if you just make your business a company. I always love explaining DPNs to those retards.
>>693639745i tried that but people just laughed at me when i told them i do deliveries
>>693639581Anon economics is a social science. There are no 'myths' there are just socially acceptable ideas. Tax loophole definitely exist. A politician can implement shit tax loopholes that benefit him and his friends, there is nothing stopping that.
>>693639581>but would sell their apartment/propertyThey wouldn't have one because they'd be rentoids.
>>693640076That's not a loophole. That's the law. Tax law is generally very specific and if that specific thing doesn't apply to you then that's all there is to it. A single politician can't implement any shitty tax laws. Because it's law it has to be passed by parliament.
>>693640024You not knowing anything about negative gearing makes you sound like the most dunning–kruger ass public servant.
>>693639921That's fair man, you don't have to take advice from random people on the internet. Do whatever makes you happy. Even retards like >>693640020 are happy with no fucking money, so some people will put up with anything.
>>693639745>have something paid for and taxed be taxed TWICEfuck off and die hypocrite leech
>>693640246You say that but I'm looking at some potentially massive tax deductions soon and the advice on the ATO website is unclear as fuck.
>>693640313Negative gearing is a specific thing they have enabled. It's not a "loophole". It's also not a "get out of paying taxes free" card.
>>693640447>the advice on the ATO website is unclear as fuckI wouldn't recommend calling the ATO about that. Chances are you'll just be told to get an accountant.
>>693640246>That's the lawLoopholes are part of laws retard
>>693640246Ahhh it sounds like you have autism and have to take everything literally. So normally people would see something like a research tax offset of a poker machine company where they claim the cost of 'research' on the development of a new poker machine as a loophole or 'a crock of shit'.In cases where incredibly high earners are claiming an entire retainer of accountants to minimise their tax as much as possible. We would call this a loophole or 'a crock of shit'.You understand the pattern here? Autistic people tend to be good with pattern recognition, so you should understand that.
>>693639985I just checked the rent for my suburb (1 bedroom), and the average is $320. 220 is possible if you're living in an extension of someone's house. That would be my guess as to how someone is paying that.
>>693640387>employer gets taxed for your paycheck>get taxed yourself for paycheck>both parties taxed again if overtime>pay taxes when buying anything>pay taxes when selling anything>pay a fee once a year for the privilege of paying the taxes lost from waste because the government is a bunch of niggers>why are people dropping out of society
>>693640387Anon you can't even string a sentence together, they should be putting you in a labour camp. You don't need money, you should be stitching together wallets for food and thankful for it.
>>693640705fuck off and die
>>693640618>So normally people would see something like a research tax offset of a poker machine company where they claim the cost of 'research' on the development of a new poker machine as a loophole or 'a crock of shit'.You can't just label something as "research" and claim an offset. I've actually dealt with a few companies recently bitching and moaning about their R&D tax offset being denied.
>>693640454Correct it isn't a 'get out of paying taxes free' card. It is a 'throw half your tax into one of the most stable assets' card. Some would regard the ability to negate half your tax as a bit of a loophole, despite the legalities.
>>693618415You'd reckon you could make a Mr. Inbetween style game. Australians talk all funny so if the gameplay is neat it'll sell well.
>>693640787Get a job lmao, you aren't entitled to shit. You will own nothing a be thankful.
>>693640873fuck off and die
>>693640357You have no idea how delighted I am with this result
>>693640950It sounds like it doesn't take much to entertain you bro. I'm glad and honestly jealous.
>>6936399854 hours south of sydney community housing
>>693623057And now you've destroyed most of the mining infrastructure and killed the economy for good
>>693641042We're both shitposting on /v/ mate if we were difficult to entertain we'd be elsewhere
>>693640832What you're calling a "loophole" is literally how it works for other forms of income and yet nobody considers it some grave injustice there. Do you think, for example, if someone has two jobs with one being a WFH job they shouldn't be allowed to apply their WFH deduction against the income from their other job?
>>693640827Yeah I said it before you deal with the retard pile. It sounds like none of these cunts have accountants. As with any tax loophole there are requirements but some of these loopholes are stupid in how vague their definitions are.
>>693641052>>693641052>And now you've destroyed most of the mining infrastructure and killed the economy for good
>>693641052Good. To paraphrase the jew from independence day If we wreck australia bad enough maybe they won't wanna come here anymore.
>>693641254>but some of these loopholes are stupid in how vague their definitions areNot really. And you know what it comes down to then anyway? Whatever the random civil servant handling your case decides. These are no friends to big evil corporations. And then you get a short time period in which you can object (and nobody likes to overturn a previous decision) and then you have to go to court which is very expensive.
>>693641239I think the WFH deduction is negligible as fuck. Even those random as fuck entitlements like "work bags" and how ever many other random ones that exist are benign. The real issue is when you are offsetting your tax in ways that allow you to substantially generate wealth over others or from others.So this is why negative gearing is shit, because australia's personal wealth revolves around housing. Giving people who own multiple or make money from it incentives to earn more from it is the dumbest shit possible.Same as the "research" tax for poker machine makers. Their entire business revolves around making poker machines and exploitative (fun for some sure) market. They don't deserve an incentive to cut their tax to get more people to gamble, just like any other vice.I'd have a completely different view if it was for a medical company unless it was about how to make their drug more addictive or some shit.This is why accountants are the biggest faggots in all of government. They are too autistic to understand morality and that is why politicians LOVE them because they just count the beans and nod their head.
>>693618415Dinkum>>693625492The Bluey game is shit, don't buy it expecting the quality of the show>>693630718>its just bland the only reason i watched it is because my nephew was watching it and is the most bland cartoon i've ever seen. is this what modern cartoons are? its fucking boring for a kids show so i dont understand how adults like itAre you a parent? That's who half the appeal is aimed at.People also like it because it's the only kids' show currently in production that focuses on happy nuclear families and Australian culture. Everything else on Aus kids' TV at the moment is random garbage/nogged/woke/, especially the stuff we get secondhand from the UK and Canada (Shaun the Sheep is good though)
>>693641578lmao this is where the bean counter rot really sets in. The vagueness of the law needs to court to set precedent and it is 'too expensive' except in the case where a company with actual money will hire and firm which also probably hire EY and/or Deloitte (guess where the ATO exec wants to work when he quits and where his kid works btw).Then they go to court, judge calls it against the ATO and taxpayers find themselves with another bill. Except that doesn't matter because the taxpayers don't pay all that much in comparison to all the mineral wealth taxes which are still 1/10th (probably much more) of what they should be.
>>693618415In the late 80s I played some mad max based game set in Australia where you controlled a convoy or warband of vehicles with weapons on them and had to roam the wastes in search of food, fuel and water. I don't remember anything else, I can't even call what it looked like to mind.
>>693630786Rich people aren't crabs pulling their competitors down you retard. Rich people are what's outside of the bucket.
>>693641901>In the late 80sSo it was shit? that's all we needed to know
>>693642052Yes retard, the rich people aren't the crabs. The crabs are the middle and lower class who get baited into thinking they will make it.
>>693630359i heard one of the presidents wanted to build a sick-ass canal straight through the country which would have brought tons of money and jobs and created tons of new fertile land but some losers decided he wasn't allowed to do that bc it could put some species of lizard at risk
>>693643914>presidentsprime ministers
>>693625492is this the Bluey thread? i'm on smoko>>693627046no it doesn'tthere are stranger things
