Is it just nostalgia or was vanilla wow as magical as it is in my memories?
>>693912918>Is it just nostalgia or was vanilla wow as magical as it is in my memories?it's an online game made before internet went to shit on 2007, everything aligned perfectly, and it's not happening again.
It WAS. Isn't anymore.
Go back to your containment
It was magical. The days when people could say faggot in chat without getting banned, game files weren't mined and everything figured out before patches even drop, all of the zones were new and fresh to you, every server felt like an actual community, people weren't all hiding in their discords, and people had fun doing everything the game had to offer, not just rushing to end game.
>>693912918it was a good game then and also information was much harder to come by. people didnt study games like they do now either.if you play it now this is just sad. its not a fun game now.
>>693912918It is time to move on anon
>>693912918https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giyar1ymbaI
>>693912918I played every WoW expansion up to Legion, but I never even touched vanilla.Classic is over and I hear private servers are either shit or minmaxed to hell and back (or both). Is the single player project a decent way to experience the game?
>>693913487why dont you just say a different word if you want to say faggot that badly? insisting on playing the same card since 2004 and having zero adaptability to the ebb and flow of the times is indicative of low intelligence regardless of your politics
>>693913815No. I want to say faggot
>>693912918It was back when the internet was still sort of newish and mostly white. The community was amazing, and can never be replicated again.
>>693913487>we will never go back to a pre reddit, pre social media internet
It was magical, but only because social media hadn't been invented yet so a lot of the draw to the game was logging into a living breathing world and communicating with other real human beings in itnow that novelty has worn off, and the game has been solved and minmaxed to deathit's fun but just not the same
>>693913487>this icon has been replaced with some negroid in the retail clientunsurprising, given the current state of blizzard
>>693913695Playing WoW single-player is like buying a burger then only eating the buns. The single player content in the game is barebones and repetitive and gets boring as fuck really fast. The meat of the game is dungeons, raids and PvP.
>>693913082>>693913487/threadgaming is dead, gatekeep your next hobby betterwomen and faggots are fucking locust
Even to this day, I can only hear the meme as "LEEEROOOOY NEGAAANS" instead of "Jenkins"It's like that one Yanny/Laurel meme
>>693912918it's also the first time i saw corporate america carve up a product for mass appeal like they did with burning crusade and reducing raid size to 25, bringing in cross server BGs, etc... killed the vanilla social community on each servercorpo suit fucks should all die
>>693912918Blizzard employees are really mad right now.
>>693913815the ebb and flow of the times is that FAGGOTS have ruined culture in modern times cause they aren't bullied like the FAGGOTS they are and always will beSTUPID used to be quiet now it rejoices
>>693912918Get help.
>>693912918the internet had not been ruined yet by social media and gay shit so yes it was pretty based
>>693915793we just need to encourage developers to provide private server as a feature for multiplayer games - then it will all fall into place
>>693918498people already forgot about stop killing games
>>693918408its not faggots, its women
>>693912918A mixture of both I imagine. You probably don't remember all the tedious shit or you didn't care at the time. But the memories you made presumably with homies are real. Unfortunately even if vanilla WoW came out in 2024 the culture's shifted and MMOs aren't the same anymore. Most people are AFK watching shit on their other monitor or are playing 20 clients at once with automation software
>>693918325the raid size thing was a bummer. sure it could be a nightmare to create and deal with a 40 man party but it was just so much more epic
>>693918472Stop being poor, or farm the gold in game, and have others buy it for you via wow tokens.
i've been playing this:https://github.com/celguar/spp-classics-cmangosfor about a month and, yes, its still pretty magical.especially being able to just say "fuck you game" and use gm commands when bullshit occurs.
>>693912918Speaking as someone who didn't play much of it until 2019 (I played a bit from 2004 to 2008, but not on my own account), it actually is a very good game.Classic WoW also still attracts a pretty fair amount of friendly, like-minded players, but the culture is obviously nothing like it was 20 years ago. I'd say it definitely was as magical as you remember it, but the magic isn't really possible to recapture anymore, at least not fully. It's still a fun game.Personally, I think if a developer today took a really good look at worked in this game and tried to make something that actually iterated upon it substantially that they could have a hit on their hands. Seems like nobody wants to make an MMO anymore that isn't either a more streamlined version of this game (for the worse) or more of an ARPG than an MMORPG.
>>693918673ragnaros the first time was probably a once in a lifetime gaming experience
>>693919093not as a tank. you're basically just getting teabagged by a giant swirling cock the entire fight
>>693918673also i was there for a server first cthun - that fight was awesome
>>693918850the only remote chance is Star Citizen
>>693918673Yeah trying to get 40 goddamn people together with different schedules some of them being teens or adults with jobs was hard.
>>693919145>the eye aggros while you're preparing>entire raid wiped instantly
>>693912918being online was still a novelty and talking to people in anything other than an irc chat room was really cool so the social bit was never a big problembut now it's as big of a problem if not bigger than things like game mechanics or update schedulesit really was a unique game in a unique time
>>693919202the addiction level everyone had for the game made that easier than you think
>>693919271unless you got trapped on a server full of casuals
>>693913695What >>693916629 said but it's STILL better than playing with actual ""people"" who still play retail/pservers. No matter how shit modern WoW is, the playerbase will always be even worse somehow.
>>693916629>>693913695just set xp/gold/drop rates to a level where you aren't required to do every "kill 15 rats" quest and you can limit yourself to the long storyline quests. as far as raids and dungeons go, the bots are pretty close to the competence of players. for better and worse. but its really nice to know that if the bots fuck up, its your fault, rather than them just being irrevocably shit.
>>693919271You can be heavily engaged in sometihng and be pragmatic enough to realize you have other obligations. If you're a teenager, mommy and daddy aren't going to let you miss school to play a game. If you're an adult you can take off but then you miss pay unless its a sick or personal or vacation day. And most people would use those for real reasons. If you were a neet or a troglodyte from some third-world hellhole it was easy, but most people playing in 2004-2007 weren't neets.
I'm rooting for that anon in the gamedev threads who wants to make a standalone WoW battlegrounds-style game. Sounds like fun.
>guild gave up on naxx40 because expansion soon>guild gave up on sunwell because expansion sooni didn't come back for wrath. didn't really care about wrath anyway. arthas was always gay
>>693912918It was pretty amazing until they fucked everything up
>>693920189>715 killing blows>437 deaths>3555 honorable killsHoly fucking Jesus
>>693919808it wouldn't work without all the "world" fuckery.
>>693912918It was just as magical as you remember. It was also a different time. And that time has passed.
Funny how dead /wowg/ is today.
>>693920598I’m not sure I agree but don’t think you’re necessarily wrong. It would probably need an actual MMO world to really draw people in, even if it was effectively just a huge lobby for the main game mode.
>>693912918Both.Turtle Wow still has some of that charm.
>>693920585In a day, that doesn't seem too extreme. Look at the bottom left.
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>>693919698yeah but if you were a top 5 guild on the server you had a line of people waiting to join the raid
>>693921835>top 5 guild on the serverSo minmax faggots who ruined the game beyond recognition?
>>693921084Not an argument.
>>693913082qrd on what happened in 2007 to make the internet shit? yes I'm a zoomerfag
>>693922618iphonefacebooktumblrnormies starting to get interested in internetetc.
>>693922618youtube becoming massivesocial media started to take offiphones4chan became known around the internetvidya streaming in its infancy
>>693922618web 2.0 and the iphone. everyone and their mother to start using the internet. before that, it was just White men who were invested enough to have their own computers at home, so the internet was a paradise full of like-minded people. it was exclusively White culture up until 2007.
>>693912918Nostalgia. It's not bad by any means but OG Vanilla was primarily a result of the internet at the time.It was never particularly difficult. Addons existed at the time. Guides, ways of immediately figuring out what to do in quests, and you could easily glide through leveling even back then. The people who were online, let alone playing an MMO were simply a different type of people. The internet itself was still far different as well so people engaged with it differently unlike now where everything is heavily sanitized, moderated and controlled.
>>693912918it was pretty magical, i remember skipping school to buy physical with my friends and playing through the whole weekend in my friends basement, it was so awesome just discovering new things and leveling up together
>>693922751Also Portal, Mass Effect, Uncharted and Modern Warfare all being released in 2007.
>>693916780I love that they don't even try to imitate or capture a similar mood with the updated picture. Even if they wanted to use a purple haired tranny, they could have given it some personality besides "look straight forward at the camera and smile."It's unintentionally telling people that they are both retarded and have zero creativity.
>>693919698If I had been anywhere else than college doing a measly 20-25 hours of classes per week and never doing homework and doing project on the last possible day, I would not have been able to play World of Warcraft, if I had a job I would have been fired and the first non-summer job I had was when I quit WoW. And now that I have known WoW-addiction I have developed resistance to any other addiction.
>>693922618>what happened in 2007see >>693922881Having internet wasn't common, was almost exclusively middle class or above white people (and Japanese) and for a long time, most children did not have their own computer and would be using a family computer.
>>693920941Murdering niggas in AV for 34 hours is definitely extreme.
>>693912918It actually was that magical. You can't go back though. All the fun has been optimized out of games. There is no more magic or mystery or discovery. People datamine shit now before it's even out. Even if people didn't datamine shit, streamers and reviewers and whoever else get the game weeks or months earlier than everyone else to put out guides on how to optimize the game. Shit's just not how it used to be anymore.Plus, most people's computers sucked back then. Internet kinda sucked too. The internet also hadn't been ruined by zoomers and third worlders yet. Realm Forums will never be a thing again. Discord exists. Etc.
>>693913082fpbp>>693916780Is retarded though. Gain media literary.
>>69392330434hr AV isn't anything special for actual Vanilla
>>693912918It's not nostalgia and yes it was magical. But it was magical because it came out in 2005.
>>693920189>1 day, 10 hoursThey really don't make 'em like they use to...
>>693916780Holy fuck I think that might be my ex wife, have a link to where I can see this?
>>693912918It was an incredibly well made game. The zone design and music alone would have made it a 10/10.
>>693920835>sign up for turtlewow>get all my information stolensuch charm
>>693923791Personally being in there for all 34 hours and racking up 3500 kills is pretty special.
>>693923940No clue what you are talking about.Have your tried not being tech-illiterate?
>>693923993Nice try russian slut.
>>693922618Before 2007 you needed a computer to access the internet for the most part, which filtered a lot of normies. Once the iPhone came along it opened the gates to every single normie.Once the normies arrive, what was once good turns into shit.
>>693924046Better inject that ethanol against those russian hackers trumptard.
>>693912918To Everquest and Ultima fags, WoW was probably the death of the MMO genre.
it's been said a thousand times but it had less to do with WoW as a game eand more like the general zeitgeist of internet culture at the timepeople were eager to interact and interacting in this way was very novelif you played both in 2004 and classic in 2019, classic was absolutely nothing like playing it back in 2004 and it has everything to do with the way people wereif you play WoW today it's barely even an MMO at this point, it's more like a 3D diablo with a subscription feehave a draebabe
>>693912918magical is the best way to describe itbut please move on, for your own sake
>>693918734It's okay. Better than I ever expected a single-player self-hosted server to be.
>>693915793>pre redditpre Obama
>>693924128Easily broken.
Overwatch is better
>>693920189>First Warsong Gulch was magical>First Arathi Basin was magical>First Alterac Valley was magical>Implying Wintergrasp>Implying Isle of Conquest>Implying Ashran
>>693924180dwarves, humans, night elves, orcs, tauren, trolls, forsaken are the only races that should exist everything else is meme shit
>>693926662yeah people say thati don't really want to play a WoW without the tbc and cata races though
>>693924180No, it’s still about wow as a game. I’d put it at 60/40 game/white-internet. Maybe even 70/30, as furries played a huge part of the decline of World of Warcraft, by being the biggest paypigs of the internet until they were replaced by (and/or became) trannies.
>>693912918It was just nostalgia since it happened in every MMO
>>693925403Can you actually chat with the bots? Is this some AI assisted fuckery?
>>693926752why?
The game itself was and still is incredibly good and worth playing every once in a while. It's the community that has changed, and while there are some good aspects of the community, a majority of it is negative or unfriendly to anybody other than the most hardcore, creditcard swiping autists.
>>693927569because I like them and they fit, goblins in particular should have been there from the beginningyeah I guess if I had to I could just deal with playing a human or an undead forever but I don't really want to
>>693913082fpbp
>>693913636kino...........
>>693912918It's as magical. I played hardcore warrior recently and leading successful raids as tank where everyone can die was so much fun.
>>693927719>they fitjust because they were mentioned doesn't mean they should exist or be playable races (look at draenei or pandas and their 1 reference in warcraft 3), based on lore gnomes were almost wiped out after gnomergan was lost so them being a playable race when they are supposed to be a rare sight mostly common in dun morogh makes no sense. Worgen were the first furfag push on the game and whatever came later was even worse. Though sure goblins/ogres could have been a playable race considering their influence
>>693926752Burning crusade I understand but cataclysm’s were pure furfag races. But either way the single player projects are up to wrath and cataclysm is next.
>>693928523goblins are a furfag race?
>>693912918Being one of the first people to find & defeat ragnaros was pretty magical. Whoever did the early boss encounters was very good at their job. It was like something you had never seen before. Go from the typical slay orcs quest or whatever to a hidden fire elemental deep in a mountain that would one-shot you and figuring out how to defeat it was great fun. The death of open world PvP sucked though. They needed to provide an incentive to it (maybe gold transfer on death), but also a lot of casuals don't want to be involved in PvP in any way (because they suck at it), so you end up in this situation where you either ban it and keep your casual playerbase (the sheep) or you allow it and lose the causals and end up with only wolves. WoW basically went the former direction with arena pvp and it got gay.
>>693913487>game files weren't mined Exploring was awesome. I fucking turned my character into a gandalf lookalike and explored areas that wouldn't be released for years. I wish they hadn't patched out the flying bug so quickly though. That would've been super useful. >>693913516yeah, guides kind of ruined gaming
>>693912918I have replayed many tines over the years it in private servers and classic, and it's always been magical. The game is still great in spite of the playerbase becoming dogshit
>>693928523Goblins shouldve been in the horde from the get go, since they were in it before. BElves never made much sense but at least had something which cant be said for:Allies getting Space Goats and Werewolves was fucking retarded and lazy, the former still makes no sense.
>>693928664Yeah.
>>693923368Black Desert actually combatted this by having stats and such hidden, and it was never datamined. Even damage logs weren't exportable, so if you wanted to compare two equal level weapons, for example, you had to use gut instinct or manually log every hit. And since skills hit for like 8 - 15 hits apiece, and it was a fast paced game, this wasn't too feasible (I'm sure some autist would've done it eventually if it was WoW levels of popular).
>>693927134Kinda, but it isn't GPT or LLM shenanigans AFAIK.Their responses are canned.They are, however, about as good and coherent as players were back then.
I remember playing as a kid and doing dungeons as a tank but I didn't even know what tanking was, all I knew was I was guy in armor with a weapon so i'm gonna hit shit and I was the shittiest tank in existencefun times
>>693926662Night elves should’ve been exterminated or joined illidan after hyjal, fuck the cow people. Reducing Warcraft to two factions was a huge mistake lorewise.
>>693924180I played vanilla in 2018 on a private server and no, the game itself was perfected, it was amazing at what it did.
>>693918472I still dont understand why people are so mad about this when you have recolors of other mounts that cost more than 90$
>>693933880>the game itself was perfectedWhat is like to have no standards?
Everything has become shit since 2005 and you cannot deny. Name it, and I will tell you how it is shit.
>>693934397Name a game that was more polished at launch if you're so great.
>>693934403Haruhi came out in 2006
>>693934489Endless Eight filtered me
>>693915793WOW is a social media, retard.
>>693913815>why dont you just say a different word if you want to say faggot that badlyread this sentence again
>>693928338>Worgen were the first furfag pushTauren were a launch race.
Vanilla WoW has a great feeling of community that MMOs since just don't have any probably never will have again. And without the feeling of community it makes more sense to just play a single player game.
>>693912918Pre streaming and social media (or very limited, non-centralized social media at least) was better.
>>693924138I was an UOfag and I love vanilla WoW to death.
>>693932826>They are, however, about as good and coherent as players were back then.Which is also true for cases when they need to move out of aoe effects. The bots play the classes/roles perfectly but if there’s something else happening they’re incompetent and need to be ordered. So the single player projects are basically just being a GM with extra steps that actually matter
>>693912918it was ludo. it made my uninstall ICQ because I socialized in wow exclusively.
>>693913082all anyone needs to know
replaying classic wow made me realize it was genuinely just magical the world was simple, immersive and rewardinggetting to max level felt great, and getting full gear felt amazing too many jews got into gaming and had to overoptimize the shit out of everything to milk the cashcows, thus killing the magic
>>693912918I never played vanilla (runescape fag), Nost when it was alive and then ascension, then actual WoW and then season of discovery.Vanilla > Modern WoW. No debate, no argument. Its a fact.
>>693913636normalfag slop made for normalfags>>693927839>using that wordsee
It was like nothing else before or since. There was no game with a ‘shared world’ that was so immersive, cohesive, massive and easy to access. Social media didn’t exist, so meeting people online was a new and exciting thing, and it being done as you explored a whole world and discovered secrets and went on random adventures. Something like that can only come about again if there is some new breakthrough in immersive technology that can be made massively accessible.
>>693912918I had a lot of fun in Classic 'cause my friends finally fucking played with me after trying to get them into Pservers for years. Classic itself was okay. Some ways better some ways worse than Pservers. I enjoy Vanilla and get the itch to go back every couple years, so it's definitely not just nostalgia for me. Still the best WoW has ever been imhotbqhwyfamalamadingdong.
>>693938890Yeah, but more interactivity and intelligence wouldn't be amiss.It would be kinda cool to have fun/good bots to play with too.
>>693941507This pretty much. The pservers before classic still had some remnant of the original mmo culture from vanilla. Classic never had that spirit, not even on the first day. But it was its own exciting thing, and the build is good.
>>693912918Vanilla was just better, flying undeniably ruined the game and turned it into nothing but flying to and from chores.
>>693913815Because the weird anti-science religious nuts want to ban words with no science backing that it does anything. I just want to be free from their oppression.
