Sega is delisting all Genesis and most Dreamcast games off of Steam and consoles on December 6th. Sonic Adventure DX is the only one unaffected.https://support.sega.com/hc/en-gb/articles/29776767664145-SEGA-Classics-FAQ
I've got Sega Bass Fishing and the version that's inside the Yakuza games I'm good
>>693927401>delisting the old collection so they can sell a new oneugh
>>693927401>>693927980>>693928005Just use Flycast
>>693927401>there have been a million Steam sales>somehow, still never ended up buying Nights into Dreams>now I never willOh well. At least I have Jet Set.
this is why I pirate everything from this dogshit company.
>>693927401I’m pretty sure everyone has this everytime it goes on sale
>>693928005Hopefully it will be better quality than the last, as long as they don't go full Nintendo Switch Online and make it a service.
>>693928248Reminder that Yuji Naka for sabotaging the Sonic X-treme team by not letting them use the NiGHTS engineReminder that SA1 and SA2 were built to take full advantage of the Dreamcast hardware. The palette-based "Lantern" lighting engine from Sonic Adventure was ahead of its time. Iizuka wanting something transparent and liquid since the technology now allowed it, the team came up with Chaos. They had to drop it to hit SA2 60fps on Dreamcast and SADX 60fps on GC.Reminder that Sega threw away the Sonic Adventure 1/2 engine made in Sega Katana, an SDK for the Dreamcast and gave us Renderware garbage for Heroes and Shadow because Sony demanded that Sonic has to run on PS2's emotion engineReminder that SonicNextGen was built for the Xbox 360, rushed for holiday release, and then SEGA wanted to port it to PS3's CELL and WiiReminder that Unleashed and Generations were built exclusively for the Xbox 360 and were kinoReminder that Sonic 4 and Episode 2 flopped so hard that everyone forgot about itReminder that Sega screwed themselves by making 3 mandatory sonic games on the Wii UReminder that the developers created Sonic Boom with an engine incompatible with Wii U then botched the portReminder that Sonic Mania was made by Sonic fans as a love letter to 90s Sonic that grabs the most fun parts of Sonic's gameplay into his level design, most of the frustrating moments of the original classic games can't be found here, and Sega of Japan hated it and gave us SuperStarsReminder Sonic Colors Ultimate was outsourced garbageReminder vanilla SADX PC and that Sonic modders spent over 10 years fixing the PC port for freeReminder that Unleashed and Black Knight were the last Sonic games written by Japanese writersReminder that Shadow is Iizuka's favorite Sonic Character (to the point where he wears an iced Shadow Medallion) and wanted Sonic X airing next to DBZReminder Ian Flynn only knows how to write overly self-referential stuff
>>693927401>off of
>>693928297> by not letting them use the NiGHTS engineBased, they had no right to use his engine.>Sega threw away the Sonic Adventure 1/2 engine made in Sega KatanaYou mean Sammy, SEGA was dead by then./
>>693928353
>>693928297Battle for Angel Island was great
>>693928297>Reminder that Unleashed and Black Knight were the last Sonic games written by Japanese writersNo that was Sonic Forces.
Already own most of the games. Not getting Crazy Taxi without the original OST, and I've heard Space Channel has horrible delay like the PS2 port.
>>693928259Going on Game Pass to promote the Dreamcast edition consoles
>>693928445https://www.sega60th.com/registerjust takes me to https://www.sega.com/I don't even know where I'm supposed to be entering my email address.
>>693927401So should I get this or do you think they'll put them on sale closer to delist?
>>693928608>Dreamcast edition consoles????What?
>>693928005If that’s their plan then thank God. The current Genesis collection sucks ass. M2 handled a lot of Genesis game rereleases so Sega should just have them make a full collection
>>693927401So is Columns/Columns 3 worth picking up?
>>693928954>>693928952>implying xbox isn't dreamcast 2>implying nintendo isn't king in japan
>>693929091Nintendo is king in Japan and released the last real console (Wii U ), who said otherwise.But like SEGA now are post-home console.OG Xbox was Dreamcast 2 but 360 divorced itself from Dreamcast heritage.
>>693929025Just get the genesis Collection which has both the physical editions are avaibale everywhere for like twenty bucks
>>693928954Some special edition Series consoles are going to be released that have Dreamcast branding for the 25th anniversary. It's just going to be a decal probably but some Sega games will be in Game Pass for a while.
>>693929204>tfw SA1 and SA2 will never get modern DX12 ports based on original Dreamcast codebase
>Fighting Vipers isn’t mentioned Weird, that and Virtual On: OT are the only classic Sega games on the 360 that aren’t being taken down.
>>693928445>>693928846Alright, I even tried with the Wayback Machine, and I see now how I'm supposed to acquire Nights, but it doesn't work. I do eventually get to the localhost:3000 thing, but correcting the URL takes me back to the sega website that the original link takes me to. They probably took it down like TODAY, if people are commenting that they got it on the 2nd.
>>693929187>Should I spend $2?>No, spend $20 for a disk of a system you don't own instead.Thanks for the advice.
>>693929352yeah I guess they finally wised up very recently
>De-listing Jet Set Radio.
>>693928120the steam port has wonky controls so you're better off emulating the saturn version, or really even the PS2 one since that's what the PS360 version is based on anyway.
>>693927401and nothing of value was lost
>>693929260Sammy does not care for their SEGA properties.It has been 20 years since SEGA diead.Move on.
>>693929428Here's "proof" that I know what I'm talking about and it isn't working. RIP. Thanks for the advice though. It almost worked. Probably would have worked a day or two ago.
>>693929310pretty sure everything else listed is multiplat so they probably just legit forgot about them. hopefully for this delisting and not just for putting them on the notice.
>>693927401unless this goes on sale for like $5 i don't care.
>>693927401Dont worry bros, they're remaking each one into a mobile only gacha game with ads!
>>693927401Jesus fucking christ they are really SCRUBBING their library. Makes that point Nerrel made about Sega vs. Nintendo on preservation age very, very poorly now. Just another justification that piracy is morally right.
>>693927401Just DOWNLOAD A FUCKING ROM, i own physical copies of half of those and i still just play on emulator all the time
>Just recently tell my friends they can check these games out on steam>This almost indisputably means a rerelease with DenuvoSega damn it saw Sega Of Europe off of you already damn it, they're fucking gangrenous at this point.
>>693930525Cool, faggot. No one asked
>>693928297>Reminder that the developers created Sonic Boom with an engine incompatible with Wii U then botched the portThe engine was utterly incompatible on the Wii u that they had to call Crytek so they could make a whole modification to CryEngine so Sonic Boom is actually running on a unique kind of CryEngine
>>693930525i did the inverse and burned them to physical dics to play on my dreamcast
>>693930603Also motherfucker I can't even buy these for my friends because they're in the new bundle system
Genesis, whatever, but the Dreamcast games were native ports. What the hell?
>>693927980Sadly, you can't rip that out like VF5 and start it by itself while deleting the Yakuuzer files.>>693927401I'll probably pick up Mean Bean Machine (the only Genesis collection game I don't have, weirdly, from the Amazon sale in 2013) and Crazy Taxi (which can be fixed with mods) I guess.
>>693928120Nigga, they literally gave it away if you gave them a throwaway e-mail to send the code to. Your fault for not paying attention.
I feel like one of the bigger losses nobody's talking about is Sonic the Fighters. That actually had some unique shit in it (namely a functional Honey, Metal Sonic and I think Eggman) and was already getting forgotten to time due to being stuck on PS3 and 360.
>>693932691That's in Lost Judgement at least.
>>693932806oh, never played that. is it at least the updated version and not a straight arcade emulation?
>>693928074>emutranny This isn't about playing old games; it's about being able to pay for legacy content. Besides, the Steam versions of SADX and SA2 were definitive due to mod support, retard.
I tried starting Sonic 4 on Steam since I never played it and got it in a bundle forever ago and forgot about it. Is there a reason the game just refuses to launch?
>>693929175>divorced itself from Dreamcast heritage.nigger, the Sega handouts fucking flopped and failed to attract a Japanese audience.
>>693932984IIRC the launcher relies on (your local installation of) Flash for some godforsaken reason and you need to download an alt launcher to run the game.
>>693927401anything better from getting the steam ports over ripping the games and burning them to disc?
>>693927401>no PSOBB Offlinewhere is it sega
>>693933470Only the Dreamcast stuff.
>>693933615Right here my man.https://www.myabandonware.com/game/phantasy-star-online-blue-burst-co3
>>693933470Modding, HD (Although this causes a few minor issues in SADX and Sega Bass Fishing IIRC), SADX itself doesn't exist for the dreamcast, so if you want mission mode it's still the best option. NiGHTs comes with a bunch of extra shit Jet Set Radio has some bonus unlockable content, leaderboards and more playable characters.I forget but I think maybe? Space Channel 5 Part 2 on steam has extra features, but I could be wrong.
>>693927401shit so why didn't they put it that collection at $1? I saw it being price at 7 during the sale and decided to wait longer
>>693932847don't remember but you definitely can't play online like you could on 360 version
>>693927401>Crazy Taxiis now>Eccentric Taxii suppose
>>693927401since this is for two separate consoles and affects all platforms I'm going to assume they're doing new collections ahead of the revives they teased at TGA. it doesn't make sense to take down the remaining legacy games right before a wave of reboots hits the market.
>>693933689It's not the same, i want an official PSOBB offline and(god forgive me for writing this) give SEGA money for it, hoping that it would get through their shit filled skull that there are people out there that still care about the GAME part of PSOthanks, i had some loose files around but i couldn't get it to run, maybe this one will work
>>693934227retard
>no ps3 titles so sony is gonna close that store soon?
>>693934235tell that to Rockstar removing all of the old GTA games from Steam
>>693934347sega literally changed>crazyto>eccentricin one line in the newest sonic gameyou absolute faggot
>>693934583you're comparing a minor script change in localization to retitling an entire 20 year old IP, dumbass.
>>693934583Crazy is offensive to loonies.
>>693934571that's different, they were remakes/remasters of the same titles (literally intended to be replaced), this new stuff is banking on fans of the old games.
>>693934295SEGA is too far gone at this point for a rerelease; there are also some mods on pioneer2.net which might interest you.
>>693935036I mean the Dreamcast collection ports were pretty crusty, and at least so far, every time they've done this it's preceded enhanced remakes/remasters.So it's possible if not probable that Sega's planning on releasing a new "Sega Classics" (Something that neither describes the Dreamcast Collection nor the Genesis collection) featuring improved versions of both.IIRC the fullscreen mode on Genesis Classics has been broken for literal years.
>>693934583Eccentric Taxi?
>>693932847I’m pretty sure none of the arcade games in Yakuza use the updated versions
>>693927401Fuck thats a lot of games to delist, buying them all is over 100 bux even on keysites
>>693930605I asked.
>forcing me to buy sonic the fighters now so I have the definitive version before they take it down and inevitably replace it with a shittier versionfuck you sega, fuck you
>>693929520Wtf are you talking about? That faggot deleted his post
>>693936659I just said fuck it and bought the Dreamcast bundle off steam because even with the discounts on keysites, the service fees just brought it back up around the Steam price.
>>693937075>2011 + 13>admitting to being a newfagNights into Dreams was available for free from apparently like 2021 all the way until as late as Nov 2nd of this month. Unfortunately, I suppose with the announcement of the delisting of the games, you can no longer "cheat" the game for free. They've taken the site down completely. Literally like 1 or 2 days too late.
>>693927401Wait how about Adventure 2?
>>693937143What about mega drive classics and the countless gamesFuck i wish these were all on gog and being pulled on gog, that would make it an easy decision to just buy all of it
>>693936659and that's not even counting the games they quietly delisted on xbox over the years
>>693937478Sonic Adventure DX and Sonic Adventure 2 (battle) seemingly aren't getting messed with (for now).
>>693930614Don't forget the entire Boom issue was just the higher ups somehow making ALL of the mistakes they made during the development of 06, INCLUDING reminding the developers at the last minute the game had to be a Nintendo release, while also being blindsighted by said Nintendo console being weaker than expected
>>693929187Don't the Steam releases outright allow you to just copy the roms? because they're all just rom files in the instal directory?
>>693928297>Are those heckin' ruins? Reminds of of Angel Island, I bet Knuckles would love to treasure hunt in thereGo eat a dildo covered in shit Ian.
>>693937490>What about mega drive classics and the countless gamesI'm not interested in those, so I didn't buy them.
Any good games besides Alien Soldier?
>>693937630Yes, and that was like 90% of why I always told people to pick it up on Steam.
>>693937701it's not a simple rom?
>>693937701Bonanza bros fucks if you have friends.Also Shining Force is literally the only TRPG I don't think blows cock
>>693937742it is
>>693927401>tfw have all of dreamcast gamesHonestly is it even worth having the rest of the Sega Genesis games on my Steam account?
>>693937843only if you want to play them yourselfcan't even make the argument of Steam sharing them since they're apparently ending that soon
Do I get everything if I buy dreamcast collection and mega drive collection? Or is something missing?
>>693938003I think the only thing "missing" from the dreamcast collection is the Battle DLC for Sonic Adventure 2Genesis classics has been missing the sonic vidya since Origins came out, but otherwise you should? Be getting everything
>>693938003TECHNICALLY you'll be forever cucked out of the sonic genesis games, because those got delisted with the release of the most recent collectionYou can only get OG generations in a bubdle
>>693937926>since they're apparently ending that soonIt's already been replaced by Steam families, which is the same exact thing except you can only share your games with people living in the same country as you.
>>693938287But you CAN share games without a super convoluted offline setup.
>>693938076Ty>>693938157Wtf that makes me not wanna buy anything
>>693938339Yeah, but my Argentinian friend can no longer share his 10k game library he paid $50 for with me in America.
>>693938157>>693938382may as well just get the roms, is that eye thing still around?
>>693938157wait they removed sonic 1 and 2 for steam release? it was already cucked that there was no sonic 3 there
>>693938453Sonic 1 2 AND 3 (And CD 2011) were all pulled at the same time before Origins came out.
>>693938397So just move to Argentina then
>>693938453The classic Sonic games are only available through Origins now, the original releases on Steam have all been delisted
>>693927401This is such a weird thing to do, and the timing of December 6 has me convinced that they're going to announce a gigantic classic Sega compilation with all those games and more at the Game Awards or something.They didn't delist those existing ports of the Genesis Sonic games just to replace them with nothing, after all.
>>693938453sonic origins, delisted the 2011 CD port for the same reason
>>693938432What eye thing? I have full romsets but i would like legal copies as well
>>693938613Where'd you get them, Archive?
>>693928297Reminder that anyone who obsessiveseeths this much about a single IP, never bathes/showers, brushes teeth, wipes ass, or otherwise engages in any form of personal hygeine.They also fuck tree knots while pretending the tree is eggman.
Steam is....dying
>>693928005>>693928991A lot of these ports sucked, if M2 did a line of Dreamcast games that would be wonderful. Also spend the fucking $7 and license Offspring again for CT.
>>693938660https://www.1377x.to/search/1g1r/1/There maybe. Or in the /vr/ thread
>>693938553ew no
>>693932583now that this is mentioned does anyone have a zip of the ripped VF5?
>>693938732The new sonic 1 2 3 ports were full of bugs
>>693937563>(for now).they will be when they make a sonic adventure origins collection
>>693938732Apparently M2 is doing a lot of the Yakuza/Like a Dragon arcade things, they did the Genesis Mini stuff, and beyond. If they got M2 to basically do one gigantic Sega Collection this time around instead of whatever the mess that old collection was, I won't complain. Especially if their already-existing Arcade ports get pulled into the mix, like Virtua Fighter 2, Virtua Racing and Sonic the Fighters.
>>693938918That is what I was implying, yes.
>>693939031>all these games will be playable exclusive on virtual consoles within Yakuza 9/Judgment 3Crafty Sega.
I really, really like the Castlevania Advance and Dominus collections. Has most of the features you could want, with a clean, streamlined presentation. I agree M2 re-doing these in a similar fashion would be nice.
>>693939031M2's great for emulation, they need to let them have a go at dreamcast emulation
>>693939031For me the only thing I would hope for is a really schnazzy UI that shows they cared, and maybe no denuvo.I want something with as much hope and humanity as the Sonic Mega Collection menu.
>>693927401I wish if they make a new Genesis/Mega Drive collection again, they make it like the PS3/Xbox360 where you can play the arcade counterparts of the genesis games if availableI mean playing the genesis version is nice and all, but if i can play the arcade version of the genesis game, that would be miles better
>>693939196There is fuckload of stuff to do with SA ports. For most part community fixed of backported those.Really doubt that anyone can fix whole shitfest from PC ports.
>>693939343I'd settle for arcade versions available in general.
>>693927401The Workshops are still staying up right? Those are so convenient.
>>693939435Yeah, the only thing that's going is being able to buy them, workshop should still be there regardless unless sega decides to close it later.
>>693939295>I want something with as much hope and humanity as the Sonic Mega Collection menu.we will never see that level of soul (also see sonic gems collection) from a game collection again in our lifetimes
>>693939480Guess I should buy the roms just for the convenience factor since there's no working Workshop downloader.
>>693939295Actually you know what.No denuvo period.Fuck re-rereleases with that cancer in it.
>>693939295>Sonic Mega Collectionevery time you mention it i melancholy youhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOUUS6JIRQ0
>>693927401Damn, couldn't they at least wait until after the winter sale?
>the Sonic roms are the only $5 ones
I just want all sega games on gog
>>693928120Nights into Dreams isn't actually good at all. People just want to like it because it's one of the only Saturn games of any note that isn't just an arcade port.
>>693939435Oh shit, the workshops aren't per rom but just if you own any single rom. I already own it so I can still use it, nice.
>>693939801this always immediately plays in my head whenever sonic mega collection is brought uphats off to composer tasked with making a song for a sonic game collection and coming back with this beautiful masterpiece, dude totally could have phoned it in and no one would've blamed him
>>693939921>Nights into Dreams isn't actually good at all.I like it
>>693939801fuck take me backhttps://youtu.be/HD4UY7xHHlg
When are they porting the real SA1?
Can I just pirate the roms and put them in the Collection if I own it on Steam, or is it some weird repackaged format that I have to pirate instead?
>>693927401>>693928005If they do a new Dreamcast compilation, they're totally censoring Rouge The Bat in Sonic Adventure 2, they already censored her in that Generations remake I mean her boobs actually bounce in SA2 when she walks/jumps/runs
Why are SEGA so bad at porting? They even used to have entire department dedicated to it but their ports are always broken.
>>693928297Reminder that you need to go get a job finally
>>693940061Get ready for port of a port of a port from a port of a port.
Are there any real benefits to buying these on steam when emulation exists
>>693939921https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKjpIe6IQvsThe music is good.
>>693940103Rouge the navel
>>693929187Bruh, that collection sucks ass on the Switch. There's button input lag and I'm just in disbelief why companies can't properly port low powered things like this game.
>>693940226A native port runs better
>>693940226They're PC versions, rather than DC versions.
>>693940061Never, at least the Gamecube port looks way better than the shit they did for the PC port >>693940103>>693940250Socierty is collapsing
>>693940226you get teh comfy ui of being in a 90s home
>>693940042Man. I watched All Dogs go to Heaven a lot as a kid. Totally forgot about that movie.
>>693927401Why don't they ever rerelease Saturn games? Shitga has no excuse after the Cotton compilation shown them it was doable.
>>693927401NEW CONSOLE INCOMING!
>>693927401If they're making a new Dreamcast collection I hope they port Time Stalkers, since they already ported LandStalker in the Genesis collection https://youtu.be/ROKhBnhTFUE?si=dSO5pVAnxOdLzvCT
>>693940598NiGHTs is right there silly, as for the other ones?I couldn't answer that.I wanna play Burning Rangers!
>>693940248Sega has a habit of making terrible games with 10/10 music. See: every 3D Sonic.
>>693940598>>693940682Didn't you read the interview they did when SEGA released the Mega Drive Mini 2? they literally said "we can't port the Saturn Games or make a Saturn Mini because it is too hard to emulate">>693940250That outfit was the only reason to play the multiplayer mode
>>693940462The girl from that movie was my digital crush for so long. It broke my heart to discover what happened to her VA.
>>693940778Ok but NiGHTs is there.Burning Rangers now.
>>693927401Does anyone have any idea why they're doing this?
>>693940807Bruh... what happened?
>>693940841My guess would be so that they can launch some Sega Online subscription service where for just $10 a month, you can experience all the Genesis and Dreamcast classics on the device of your choice
>>693934347Hey Hey Hey it's Retard Tax-AyLet's go for a ride
>>693927401>another delistingThis is the all-digital future you wanted.
>>693940924>another company subscription>when they are ALREADY part of the nso subscriptionyeah I wouldn't put it past sega to pull something this retarded
>>693940842Not that anon, but the girl who played ducky in land before time was murdered by her dad
>>693940980yu h yuh yuh yuh yuh
>>693941057
>>693941049Oh, I knew about that one. I didn't know that Ducky and the All Dogs go to Heaven girl were the same girl. Still, sad. >googlesDamn, I also didn't know that both Land Before Time and All Dogs go to Heaven were released after she already got killed.
>>693941186Are they? I have no idea. I just always think about that shit.
>>693933320java, actually, and it ONLY needs it for input configuration.
The fact that Steam even allows games to be delisted is complete fucking bullshit.
>>693942289I mean licensing is retarded, it's not really feasible for a game to NEVER be able to be delisted.You still keep games you've been sold however.
>>693942345The only reason why you would delist anything is so you can sell an inferior product like Rockstar.
>>693928297>Reminder that Yuji Naka for sabotaging the Sonic X-treme team by not letting them use the NiGHTS engineI believe that this was an error in communication. Naka claims that Nights has no engine and was made in straight c++
>>693942369No, licensing issues are actually extremely common. Plus things like companies dissolving and re-emerging like TellTale.
>>693941001At least they gave us a warning this time. Most of the time they just pull them out of the blue
https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/10143/SEGA_Mega_Drive_and_Genesis_Classics/https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/14082/Dreamcast_Collection/Are these all of the listed games being delisted?
>>693942515Yes, minus SADX in the DC collection. Also they already removed mainline Sonic games from the Genesis collection after Sonic Origins came out. So you can never own the full collection.
>>693942515yes, except sonic adventure (which is part of dreamcast colection)
>>693942552SA2 is also in the Dreamcast collection (sans battle)
>>693927401>Taking Jet Set Radio and NIGHTS off of SteamWhat the fuck? For what purpose? I don’t even have a Steam account but part of me wants to make one just to ensure I can play two of my favorite games some day.
>>693942750All of the games will be back in a new compilation, but with Denuvo attached, and who knows what other bad changes like what happened with Sonic Origins
>>693927401>the only versions of jsr and crazy taxi that'll be playable in the future are the shitty f2p cash grabs "remakes"This company is ran by retards.
>>693942750Nights been giveaway for free for 3 years straight, how come you didn't get it?
>>693942515THis is what they will delist at December 6th at 11:59pm PST.Titles to be delisted on SteamAlex Kidd in the Enchanted CastleAlien SoldierAlien StormAltered BeastBeyond OasisBio-Hazard BattleBonanza BrosColumnsColumns IIIComix ZoneCrack DownCrazy TaxiDecap AttackDr. Robotnik’s Mean Bean MachineDreamcast Collection BundleDynamite HeaddyEcco Jr.Ecco the DolphinEcco: The Tides of TimeESWAT: City Under SiegeEternal ChampionsFatal LabyrinthFlickyGalaxy Force IIGain GroundGolden AxeGolden Axe IIGolden Axe IIIGunstar HeroesJet Set RadioKid ChameleonLandstalker: The Treasures of King NoleLight CrusaderMega Drive and Genesis Classic BundleNiGHTS into DreamsPhantasy Star IIPhantasy Star III: Generations of DoomPhantasy Star IV: The End of the MillenniumRistarSEGA Bass FishingShadow DancerShining ForceShining Force IIShining in the DarknessShinobi III: Return of the Ninja MasterSonic 3D BlastSonic SpinblllSpace Channel 5: Part 2Space Harrier IIStreets of RageStreets of Rage 2Streets of Rage 3Super Thunder BladeSword of VermilionThe Revenge of ShinobiToeJam & EarlToeJam & Earl in Panic on FunkotonVectorManVectorMan 2Virtua Fighter 2Wonder Boy in Monster WorldWonder Boy III: Monster LairThe upcoming Autumn Sale is from Nov 27 - Dec 4. This is probably the best opportunity to get these on discounthttps://store.steampowered.com/bundle/10143/SEGA_Mega_Drive_and_Genesis_Classics/
>>693927401>From the company that brought you Hyenas comes more great business decisions!
>>693943136oh, I got all that several years ago
>>693943136And what titles are being delisted on console?
