"No one cared who I was until I put on the mask."Is Ceroba a big girl?Do you think the characters would like roast chicken?
Ceroba would like chicken because she's a fox
>>694154701what about martlet?
>>694155736seeds, fruit and small critters
>>694153241I can fix her...
wtf someone already made a thread 30 mins before i DID... GOD FUCKING DAMMNIT.Im just gonna post what I posted there, here.:So some people say chujin was prideful and egotistical, but I dont think thats his flaws. Instead I think chujin had very low self esteem;For example:I used to think these lines:"the program was buggy but I know I couldhave ironed it out with a few more iterations""why am I punished for trying to take our struggle seriously!"I feel as if im the only one who hasnt forgotten or chosen to live in ignorance""I told ceroba i was retiring, I cant let her THINK LESS OF ME""Prove I can save monsterkind...another way"I used to believe this displayed chujins pride and egoism. But now I think it just displays his utter lack of self esteem.For we know before this point:-Chujin had a u tried engineering award-chujin worked in a extremely toxic work enviornment (mr screen)-chujin father disagreed and did not support his sons career-chujin failed his axis demonstrations even though asgore gave him multiple tries.This type of enviornment doesnt promote arrogrance and pride. This type of enviornment promotes insecurity and lack of self esteem.So when chujin was ranting about being punished for being the only serious one. Ranting that everyone else was not serious or ignorant. Portraying himself as a tragic engineer who could have succeeded if given more time. It was merely his insecurities revealing themself.For this rant wasnt born from his pride and ego blinding him. This rant was instead born from his low self esteem and insecurities, making him not accept the tragic truth. The truth that hes a failure.So when chujin
>>694157030>So when chujindid you cut off your post?
>>694157397its a sentence fragment that I didnt delete. Ignore it, theres nothing connected to it.
>>694157030I still think there was some arrogance in how he told he knew the solution to everything
>>694153241nice thread opener OP>>694157030chujin was still pretty accomplished since he did build axis and maybe a few of the other robots tooit's just that monsterkind just didn't value his work
Birdbrain is for hug
so that new UT purple with chinese kanako just announced its cancelledadd one more to the pile boys, sad cuz I was kinda looking forward to it
>>694158981Ah but you see anon, the arrogrance was a expression of his low self esteem.For example, from an objective pov, the expirements made chujin looked bad. It showed him to be an unexpirenced engineer who completely failed with the axis testing. Even though he was given multiple tries to prove himself.But chujin due to his low self esteem refuses to accept that. So he instead creates a counter narrative. Suggesting that it wasnt because of his incompetence that made him fail. But rather because he was the only serious one while others like asgore were ignorant or purposely ignorant. And that because of this he can or will save monster kind.Notice how hes placing all of the blame outside of him. Notice how hes placing himself as the tragic victim who didnt deserve to be punished. Notice how he makes himself look good so he doesnt look bad.And thats what the solution thing was. Its him imagining himself being this great savior. Because if he doesnt then he has to face the truth. That he was an incompetent engineer who was awarded the you tried award.
>>694162262What was its name?
Kamalarune has been cancelled
>>694153241UUUUTBD by the way
>>694162497UT reflectionsit had pretty good art, and I was looking forward for more monster gf games but I guess it just wasn't meant to be
>>694162662Probably for the best. I don't think any of those Kamala will still be funny once it would've been finished.
>>694160493>chujin was still pretty accomplished since he did build axis and maybe a few of the other robots tooit's just that monsterkind just didn't value his workI mean his rant happened after he got fired. And probably before he succesfully made axis.And before he succesfully made axis we do know that he was awarded the u tried award. Which suggests he wasnt exactly a great employee.I think that tape where he rants was when his insecurities and low self esteem just imploded, lol. Especially since the guy got fired right before.
>>694162262>>694162804>I won't be posting a document with the story and cast>Before you have any ideas of reviving this fangame, I do not wish for it to be brought back without my explicit permission. What a bitchAlso>Posts asking for programmers 5 hours before cancelling the project I wonder if he's doing this for attention
>>694162273He was right though. He was the only one taking it seriously.
>>694163465>Posts asking for programmers 5 hours before cancelling the projectTBD wasn't enough?
>>694163465another one bites the dust, now it's only wildfire and that one cyan soul fangame with the wolf left standing, right?
>>694162804Which one had the cute Jackelope girl?
>>694163759there are a lot of smaller ones but they didn't do anything noteworthy imo>>694164106wildfire
>>694163706>TbdTo be determined?
>>694163759There's Naranja, which has a playable combat prototype out right now. Its pretty cool. There's also a couple other projects made by anons from /v/, but they don't have anything playable yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWKQiZVBtu4
>>694164656>single pixel cleavageamazingbut the sprite lacks the navel
>>694164656I should really play Shut Up and Jam Gaiden.
godot mod status
Oldentale anon here. I'm sorry to say I still don't have anything to show you, but things are looking hopeful. I've almost got that dev PC setup, shouldn't take much longer now. And I've ordered a bunch of books on art and programming which are just starting to arrive. Once they're all here I'm gonna knuckle down, unplug the internet, and force myself to read through them with no distractions. From there it won't be long until I have something to show you guys besides rough sketches.
>>694166268godotanon has been MIA for a few months now
>>694168110NOOO. I need the ending mod.
>>694164405im not that far off from being able to put out the initial tech demo, but the factorio brainworm has hit so i made literally zero progress this week.i will have something soon™ for this week's thread. working on a mockup for what i want the battle UI to look like since it'll be somewhat different than base DR.three core reasons for why:>combat itselfthere will be a little more focus on combat with DRY(2) than base DR, with things like the justice system. so the UI should reflect that.>battle selectionseach character will have two separate action menus, cole has an ACT menu and a SOUL menu (being for the justice system) and monsters have separate menus for offensive spells and support spells.>four party membersthings will be designed around having up to four party members, but base DR's battle system is made for three party members. combined with having an additional action menu to account for there just wont be enough space for all of it.
>>694169250>four party memberscan you even fit 4 or more bars into the screen without covering the battle arena or making the screen size wide by default? how would that even work in the pause menu when using items to see character quips?that's what I was thinking about when I thought about making a 5 party member deltarune system, making the default screensize be widescreen instead of 4:3 would allow to fit more stuff in, dunno why toby picked 4:3 for UT/DR anyway
I hope one of you has a working DRY build before Episode 3 comes out.
>>694169430>Dunno why toby picked 4:3 for UT/DR anywayNta, but it was because he was mimicking SNES RPGs, which were all 4:3. >that's what I was thinking about when I thought about making a 5 party member deltarune system, For?
at this rate the first dry build will come out in 2026
>>694169962>Episode 3Anon, you've got your vaporwares confused.
>>694170161it'll line up with chapter 3's release date then
>>694170116it was an idea I was brainstorming for a deltarune fangame with a party of 5, but I don't have free time to work on it so I've just been writing down the ideas I've had so that maybe someday I could do it, but don't expect it anytime soon, or ever
>>694168265I think he was actually in the last thread>>694168110
>>694172820hope restored
>>694169430base deltarune? no. its all designed for three party members, four is just too much. the preview bar on the bottom of the pause menu needs some light tweaks for compression, but within the menus themselves you can barely fit enough.so instead my idea is to have one party member bar on the left side, then directly to the right of that smaller preview bars that just have their face icon and a shorter health bar. the preview bar will be grayed out when its not that character's turn and highlighted when it is. this'll also solve the problem of four party members being too much for the text box, since i can instead use the previews for selection with things like healing items or here's a quick mockup of what im thinking of, using base DR as a foundation.thoughts?it'll obviously be a little more polished in the actual game, butfor now this is just for opinions.
>>694169962Episode 3 will probably be coming sooner than that, lol.t. DRY spriter
>>694157030>Chujin's father disagreed and did not support his son's careerWhen was this?
>>694173754would the item pause menu also work like this?
>>694174146pacifist steamworks.One of the lines says chujins dad disagreed and was against chujins career choice (robots)
>>694175115Do you have to use the talk option while Ceroba is a companion?
>>694175556yup 4:43https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-pXpY-gBAY&t=592sthere was even a family split
>>694174553the pause menu is surprisingly ok as is with four party members, just enough room to squeeze in a fourth without being too cramped.the only major change is compressing the preview bar. but even then it can stay structured similarly. (if you dont want to use it as an excuse to do something else, of course.)also at some point i fucked up layering so the soul doesnt show up on the pause menu, will need to fix that when i do the last bits and pieces for everything.
>>694175738>"a rift grew between families"Wait, that doesn't sound like a father-son dispute. That sounds like it's referring to two different families. Am I reading this wrong, or is that referring to the Dreemurrs and the Ketsukanes? So Chujin's family were close to the royals personally, and his dad lived long enough to see the establishment of the Steamworks?
>>694178270actually looking at it your interpetation seems better. It does sound like the dreemurs and ketsakunes knew each other.but I assume chujin siding with the dreemurs expansion and progress must have caused some conflict between father and son.
>>694179962Yeah, you're right on that point. Interesting trivia.
>>694181179indeed its a very interesting fact.
>>694175738I never bothered with the talk button. Is that why Ceroba said that Clover doesn't talk much in my playthrough?
>>694160493>>694163629You could be smart AND have low self-esteem if everyone keeps telling you your work is stupidI agree with the frustrated OP here>>694162804OhThis is the one that had anons here suggest that it should be it's own thingI'm sure the dev heard enough of that as well, it would track with him asking for programmers the very same dayHope everyone who asked for that is happy, I'm not.
>>694183498The problem with the Talk option is it's wildly inconsistent. I tried it in new rooms and got nothing but stock responses telling me to move on, so I thought the writers were tapped out. So I missed later rooms with conversations so big you can only read them if you hit Talk three fucking times. No indication.I guess I should have just mechanically exhausted every possible option but the main theme of Undertale is not doing that
>>694184141They should have mapped it and other menu options into the keyboard. I don't see the point in limiting everything to the 2 main buttons.>the main theme of Undertale is not doing thatFirst, the game very blatantly baits you into doing that, even Mettaton has the "the game you must check everything twice" line.Second, barely anyone gives a shit about themes, UT Yellow is an example of that.
>>694184380>barely anyone gives a shit about themes, UT Yellow is an example of that.Undertale Yellow was more about exploring the in-universe story.
>>694184470most fangames are more interested in the setting rather than the themes, doubt any of those kids trying to make a fangame can write well to handle meta stuff right, its either trash or just copy similar beats UT already did (yellow falls for that too for a good chunk of it)
>>694184470>>694185545The truth is that most Undertale fans came in because they liked the characters, the music, the jokes, the challenge of the battles or maybe even the spooky edgy moments, not because they wanted to see a meta deconstruction of video games.I think I have a nice idea for a fan game focused on the meta stuff, too bad I can't code.
What should the pink bear's name be?
If a literal child can develop a mask that gives monsters, boss monster powers.Then why did the monsters lose the monster human war so badly
>>694188816Monsters are retarded.
>>694188856>kanako just suddenly made it one day, as a kids project. >kanako hasnt gone into advanced schooling Shes still capable of making a mask, even with a elementary school education.>kanako has the mentality and body of a child. Yet she stil made the mask>there was nothing suggesting kanako struggled making the mask. If anything it seems like a kids art and crafts project.my fucking god if masks are this easily made then the monsters shouldnt have lost.
>>694188816>develop a maskYou make it sound like Kanako put more scientific rigor in making a wooden mask than Chujin put into his injection...which is funny, to be clear.
>>694189168kanako:-is a literal child-succesfully made a mask that give monsters boss magicchujin-is an adult scientist-completely failed at his injection to give monsters boss monster abilities and etc-ends up dying due to his expirementsKanako > chujin
>>694189281 (me)okay ive been thinking about it more, and its just gets funnier the more I think about it.Chujin wants to create a serum that gives monsters boss monster abilities and shit. The dude spends multiple fucking months trying to figure it out. And then he ends up killing himself in the process and also falling down his daughter.kanako meanwhile manages to create a solution, by pure fucking accident. She creates a mask that does give monsters boss monster abilities and shit. And she does this in a few weeks or days. So while chujin was spending all that time in the basement, trying to create his syringe. His daughter managed to create a succesful one right in his house. Without him fucking knowing about it.lmao
Very tempted to go on porn commissioning spree.Suggestions?
>>694190517It's in poor taste to speak ill of the recently deceased. I don't think commissioning porn of the recently deceased is better, but it's your money.
>>694189118It's probably just a normal mask that happens to remind Ceroba of her daughter, making her emotional.
>>694191551THEN WHY DOES SHE HAVE A MAGICAL GIRL TRANSFORMATION, WHEN SHE WEARS ITwhat explains that?
>>694191649Anime is real
>>694191649It makes her so emotional that she has a magical girl transformation. It might even just be her hair splitting into nine strands to look like nine tails instead of actually growing nine tails. Ceroba runs on tard strength.
>>694191772then why does she not have a magical girl transformation in her genocide battle?Shouldnt she be very emotional after seeing starlo die?
>>694191870Obviously, her daughter means more to her than her friend. Also, the pacifist fight is premeditated, while the justice route fight is just her running at Clover, which is why it is so much easier.
>>694191963her daughter means more, but her friend still means a lot to her. Especially since its her childhood friend who is one of the few close relationships she has left.She should still be feeling very angry. (unless somehow the emotional limit that causes magical girl transformation is very high. Which is hmm)
>>694192187But in the pacifist route, she had time to build up emotion and premeditate attacking Clover.
>>694194364true....she did......
>>694184141>but the main theme of Undertale is not doing thatIts not about not doing that, its about exploring the implications of that and where it leads. Its entirely up to you whether you want to go there.
>no UTY rep in Queen of /v/
>>694185545>>694186693It sucks being one of the few fans who likes the series because of how meta it is. You can't really have proper discussion with the rest of the fanbase because they just don't get the core theme of the work which drives everything inside the setting.
>>694195208there would have been one if these threads hadn't been purged of cerobafags and replaced by martletfags
>>694188816The mask itself is just a peice of wood, its the emotional weight it hopds for Ceroba that gives her power. Monsters are beings controlled by emotion. That's why murderous intent is what decides how much damage you do to them.
>>694190517Do her mother instead.
>>694194364But in pacifist those emotions are counteracted by the fact she doesnt want to hurt clover. (as seen by how she cried when she launched an attack against clover first stage)In genocide its just pure raw hate against clover
>>694195582yeah but the issue is she should have had a magical transformation in genocide, if thats the case.She was pretty emotional there too but she doesnt have that transformation
>>694196256But it's still weaker than her premeditated attack against pacifist Clover.
>>694196326Maybe her resolve was weaker in genocide, perhaps because she was secretly afraid. Or maybe its just an oversight by the devs.
>>694196398I need to check this, again, Excuse me
>>694196446>oversight by the devsor maybe the mask isnt just plain wood..... Myabe theres something special about it.> resolve was weaker in genocide, pshe seems really mad in genocide. very mad after seeing starlo killed. I dont think she would have a weaker resolve.
>>694196460I meant that her emotions are weaker, so her battle is easier, not her attacks.
>>694196585I was gonna check the overall pacifist genocide battles and compare and contrast.
wait a minute...I figured it out...It suddenly clicked...This is an undyne the undying situation isnt it....ceroba pulled a undyne...
>>694196760Yeah, I kinda figured that was obvious.
>>694197187well undyne didnt have a wear mask and then have immediate transformation after, so it wasnt clear.
>>694196760Ceroba pulled an Undyne but without the dying part to Un- so the mask she treats as a last resort feels like it either has a lost step of context sitting on the cutting room floor or they just decided that her putting on the mask and then having a transformations sequence would be "fucking sick" and stopped thinking about it.
>>694197410this
>>694190275>>694190381I prefer bluebird
I've read Return to Form. Kanako and Clover's interactions are very heartfelt. Also, as if I needed more reasons to hate Alphys
>>694196535>I dont think she would have a weaker resolveIt's just a difference in perspective. She already lost her family, losing a friend is just more pain to add to her grief. In the pacifist route, she's so close to getting just a part of her family back, which must feel infinitely more frustrating with it being threatened to be taken away.again.
>>694197794>she's so close to getting just a part of her family backthis isnt true. ceroba wasnt seeking to revive kanako. This is just a collective fandom misremembering of the events.i would explain more and respond to things you said further but I gotta sleep. Its very late for m.e
>>694195128Sure. That gives it more meaning than being driven on rails to a conclusion. I'm just saying the game encourages you to at least think about how you're treating the cast, so I do. I don't act like a total spastic picking fruitless options because I never know if it's a rare occasion the game actually keeps track.I guess that's just me being dumb, because from a meta perspective no dev locks content behind checks like that. But if there's anything I don't want to reduce to cold, calculating metagaming, it's games like this. I love that post game scene in UT where you can erase your progress and go again and Flowey looks you right in the eye and says something like>I know you can. I know that better than anyone.>But please don't.
>>694198261Feels a bit silly to not even say what she wanted to do instead of revive kanako, because otherwise all that setup about Kanako being in Alphys' lab, and Ceroba wanting to take you there, is just pointless filler (Martlet specifically pointed out Ceroba avoided The Lab after the fact to throw off the trail for her pursuers)
>>694198353>because from a meta perspective no dev locks content behind checks like that. I've seen it happen quite a lot, particularly in meta games. Undertale does it too. From fun little interactions like the one you posted here, to half of the game's endings.
>>694188816Because the masked monster still lost to a child with no murderous intent.
>>694188816Determination. It means that any amount of power a monster has can be negated by you wanting to win more than they do.
>>694198591I occasionally see true endings you only get by exhausting 100% of the content but I'm struggling to think of any where the point is NOT to do that. Undertale is the closest counterexample I can think of, where getting the worst possible outcome prevents you from ever getting the best (without save hacking). But even that can't be achieved without explicitly and tirelessly aiming for it.
>>694190517Surprise me
>>694190381why is she so smug
>>694199107Pony Island has something like that, kinda.
>>694183518>Hope everyone who asked for that is happy, I'm not.I am
>>694190517This guy >>694191306 is right, you should do a porn commision of the llama girl instead she has been deceased for some months nowBut I'm not sure what it could be about
>>694191963>which is why it is so much easier.Her genocide fight is harder, not only that her stats in that battle are much higher than those of the pacifist fight
>>694202780He should comm her discovering the wonderful world of human men.
>>694190517id say to hold off on commissioning NSFW of her, the dev may have other plans involving chink kanako.if you go on a commission spree NOW you risk the artist being weirded out and not using her, which would also lead to less porn in the future if the artist does something.
>>694153241FLATroba or...
>>694203714...MILKmart?
>>694203714>>694203759for me its lardanako
>>694203714Cerooba.
>>694203759Mart, since she canonically has the larger chest
>>694203759milkmart sounds like a name for a supermarket
>>694204205See you in three days, anon.
>>694162262So how many projects do you guys think will survive to release a demo? because neither UTG nor this purple game had one
>>694205310wildfire at LEAST had a demo, so that has to count for something right
>>694205310most games die in conceptual/idea stage because many are started by artists with no programming experience, or dont know how hard gamedev actually is
>>694205914are Wildfire and Naranja really the only fangames from the post UTY era that have released anything playable?
>>694206295does underswap count? also when did overtale release again? before or after yellow?
>>694206295Well, there's also Deltatraveler, but we don't like to talk about that one.
>>694206462you mean outertale? cuz that came out after yellow
>>694206295>>694206462>>694206515I should have specied "UTY inspired" fangames and not fangames in general, I know about TS!Underswapr but i meant all those new soul prequel fangames that have been anounced
>>694206529The space one, yeah.
>>694205918also programmers would rather work on an original game that they could sell rather than spend potentially years on a fangame that might not go anywhere, and sometimes dealing with artists can be really annoying when most of them are kids/teens
>>694206642yeah, it came after yellow but it wasnt as popular because its just a retelling of undertale (and its even more boring)
>>694206462>overtalethat was actually the name of a fangame that was in development back in like 2017, it wanted to be much bigger than Undertale with new mechanics and voice acting includedit was cancelled like a year after being anounced
>>694206623To be fair, its only been a year since UTY was released. That's much time for game development.
>>694153241if you guys don't mind I'm going to shill the Undertale Naranja Prototype again in case anyone missed it in the previous threadNot much changes have been made compared to my last /vrpg/ update, these last few days I focused on fixing the controls of the Android port, they should be better now, as always all the feedback is apreciatedThanks for reading my blog post, here are the linkshttps://litter.catbox.moe/26j6r6.rar (Windows)https://litter.catbox.moe/j010n1.rar (Linux)https://litter.catbox.moe/7w6myl.rar (Android)
>>694207449The Android version has definitely improved, though the controls for walking and moving between options are weird. Did you make the dpad invisible and put it on top of the joystick? Because that's what if feels like. Also, sometimes the menu selector in the battles keeps moving to the left and won't stop even after I let go of the button. Pressing it again makes it stop, but its weird nonetheless.
>>694208481>Did you make the dpad invisible and put it on top of the joystick?no, there is only the joystick now, but it might still need some tuning to stop all the weird interactions>sometimes the menu selector in the battles keeps moving to the left and won't stop even after I let go of the buttonThat might be caused by the "limiter" that I put on the scroll speed of the battle options, maybe I should remove it on the mobile version
>>694202780fluffy...
>>694190517if you are still accepting suggestions you could make a comission of flat Ceroba sucking on Martlet's milkersChijun spining on his grave on the background included
>>694190517Shortstack Mooch
>>694210185she is dead anon, we are going to see an entire graveyard of fluffy girls soon if these fangames keep getting cancelled
>>694195208The fuck you're talking about? Martlet is in the nominations.
>>694212381what other fluffy girls? just luna and silver (wolf girl from one of the cyan games) are left, and silver doesnt even have an in game sprite yet
>>694213061Shit, if we're counting fluffy girls who don't even have sprites yet I've got one. A few if you just mean furry monster girls in general.
>>694190517zenith martlet of any kind
>>694213601but can you date her?
>>694213913>>694213601this guy is making an Undertale game where you play as a monster pre war, so it might not be what you are looking for
>>694213913Dunno yet. If you can it'll be like the dates in Undertale, being sort of a one off thing.
>>694162262It never fails to amaze me how basically 99% of undertale fan-games never get past the announcement stage before being dumpsterd. Just goes to show you that you should make something playable first before even thinking of advertising it.
>>694214074Yeah, romance isn't really the focus here.
>>694213061there is another green undertale fangame in development, it had one antrho charcter but I'm not sure if its a girl or not
>>694215373the one with the otter girl that looked like a human with a button nose?
>>694215928I have no ideaI can't find images of the other UTG fangame
>>694216340this one I mean
>>694216558that doesnt look like an otter at all. it just looks like human susie
>>694216558They barely even tried to make her an otter.
So is Undertale Yellow still good to play for someone who only saw one ending of the OG many years ago and still hasn't been spoiled on the others?
Which fangame had the moth boy in it?
>>694216886yes, but i think you should finish undertale maybe. it could be interesting to see someone play uty first and then ut instead of the other way around though
>>694213061DR offshot instead of soul prequel, but pic related looks promising.
>>694216886If that "one ending" is the neutral one then yeah, but also you should definitely finish Undertale for real.
>>694216558That creature looks like an squirrel to me>>694216745>Human susieAnon that thing doesn't look like susie at all
>>694217015It was a different purple fan game I think? Or a blue one
poker night at the honeydew resortfund it
>>694218752>squirrel>no tailI dunno chief>>694217015it's one of the new green ones, "cooking with kindness" is the name
>>694219586the players are>Martlet>Papyrus>Spamton>Heavy TF2
>>694219586ace is theremooch is there too and will try to cheat
>>694219714replace the cringe bird with an incredibly drunk ceroba
>>694219714what would their tf2 items be
>>694219808Much as I like the bird, Mooch would fit better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKq7AhueSXY>UTY had a canceled underwater sectionI guess this is why Moray and her parents are a thing?
>>694224415I kinda want to see what UTY would be like without the cut content, there are a lot of areas that are dead ends for seemingly no reason also with saving kanako segment because that was clearly cut no matter what the devs say on streams
>>694225719I don't think cutting out content is bad, we are seeing right now how hard it is to finish a fan game, and also how long Deltarune is taking.Though, there are some bits I really wanted to see, like Kanako.
>>694167852Godspeed, you're doing what everyone here is too weak to do.
How much faith do you have in him being a well written or at least cool antagonist?
>>694227365Who?
>>694228556Wildfire's main antagonist.
>>694227365I have faith in the wildfire team but I guess we will see when they release the next demo next year>>694228556I think its the antagonist of wildfire, based on a scrapped toby design from the artbook or so I heard
>>694227364There are like five other fangame devs who frequent these threads, of which I'm the one with the least to show.
>>694228687>>694228725this guy looks really out of place next to Undertale characters.
>>694219607The beak/proboscis thing kinda ruins his designs, he would look better without it
>>694224415Didn't Undertale have an underwater area planned too?
>>694228687This battle sprite is one of the best I've seen
>>694228749We have/had>Hardmode anon (said something about wanting to finish the first area before the 1 year anniversary)>Dryanon1 (who is making his own original game now)>Dryanon2 (who already posted in this thread)>Naranjanon (who also posted in this thread)>Fnfanon (who made decent progress but hasn't posted much due to being busy with college)>Godotanon (has been MIA for a while)>Oldentale anon (you)We could count the wilfire guy too, I think
>>694203027>Her genocide fight is harderNo it isn't. It's far easier.>her stats in that battle are much higher than those of the pacifist fightThat's why I clarified here: >>694196585
>>694190517Anything that involves Zenith Martlet, aka the bird shown in this image is guaranteed to be a winner.
>>694190517>>694202780Chinese Kanako and the llama are down alreadyWho is next? The bun or the wolf?
>>694230572Forgot to mention but there is that one guy making a Martlet dating sim, he posted an sprite in the previous thread
>>694219607Ceroba doesn't have a tail either, does that mean that she isn't a fox?
>>694232076Things are going on slowly right now, but soon I'll have more time to work on it.
>>694227178Kanako was important to the plot, so they could have made a much simpler area to just wrap up the plot quickly. Kanako could just have been kept in a different room or on a different floor, like how Martlet was able to quickly sneak in and grab the steroids without noticing anything else.
>>694231786That's actually a good take on Zenith martlet's design, the artist did a good job drawing her here.
>>694232390My only fear is that we'd lose the beautiful scenery they made for New Home if the game ended on the true lab.
Partners Anon again. I finally finished chapter 6: https://pastebin.com/FhTikiyRI'm pretty happy with this draft, but for some reason my entire browser would crash when I tried to copy paste it into QuillBot for a grammar check. My word processor started to crash too, so I gave up for now. At least it didn't crash everything when I used Pastebin, for whatever reason.
>>694201004Well when you turn into a more powerful form that kicks a lot of ass, makes you more attractive, and happens to give you a bigger bust size, yeah I'd probably be smug to.
>Martlet dating sim
>>694232207no it just means she is stupid (which is canon and confirmed by the devs)
>>694227178Nothing's wrong with cutting content, however when you cut content you should also remove all the stuff associated with it as well. Other you get a Kanako situation, where you have all these unresolved plot elements that was clearly meant to go somehow but they couldn't be bothered to actually finish it.
>Martlet not being turned into dust
>>694233028this, would rather they have removed any mention of kanako than having the storyline just end abrutelyceroba's motivation could be to just validate chujin instead, not as strong/emotional but with good writing it could have worked
>>694190381Seeing images like this, it's no wonder Zenith Martlet is regarded as the most attractive character in Undertale Yellow.
>>694232217Take your time. The birb is worth the wait.
>>694232791You can just admit to being a faggot, anon.
>Birdbitch's opinion
>>694190483He literally did figure it out, problem was the SOUL that would've allowed him to accomplish his goal, had no desire in allowing itself be absorbed by him so their souls could fuse into one.It's for that very reason why in his tapes he was adamant that a human with a pure soul had to used.
>>694232707i really really liked this chapter. i found it interesting the parallels between martlets green attack a few chapters back and clover trying to do his green attack. i cant wait for the next chapter
>>694233743This reminds me of a fic where Ceroba actually succeeds in getting Clover's soul and revives Kanako with it.Only problem the author of the story made Clover such a bitch, with no backbone whatsoever.And the author also can't take criticism when people point out how out of character for Clover, and that their narrative with how things work in regards to soul fusion isn't correct.
>>694234408clover is a bitch so that sounds based to me
>>694233743>He literally did figure it out, problem was the SOUL that would've allowed him to accomplish his goal, had no desire in allowing itself be absorbed by him so their souls could fuse into one.I was talking about this. He was stuck at a roadblock (needed a pure soul) that prevented his serum progress.Meanwhile kanakos mask, if it does power up monsters, doesnt have that roadblock. And was proven to work as seen with ceroba.
>>694234506No he isn't.
>>694234408Wasn't that fic "Consequences of My Actions" by SexyLinoleum on A03It starts of promising then it becomes clear the author wants to just make Clover submissive and weak with no means to do anything about what's happening, when UT makes it very clear Kanako shouldn't have that level of control over Clover or just a human soul in general.
>>694235390>>694234408daily reminder theres a better fic with this concept.
>>694234849he is, little cowboy bitch
>>694235463what's it called
>>694198432I need to look up the lines.But im pretty sure ceroba accepts that her daughter is basically dead.and that getting the soul was to make her death worth something.desu I need to reinvestigate this..
>>694234408>>694235390why did you reply to yourself
>>694235686iirc she already accepted she is dead and just wants clovers soul for chujins boss monster plan
>>694235390What's surprising to me is that it took 17 chapters for someone to finally call them out, and for others to join in.Which tells me, either it wasn't on the radar until someone picked it up.Or people were losing their patience because the story wasn't getting to the point, in a way that made sense.
>>694235775yeah this.
>>694235686Weird how it's never acknowledged what happens after Kanako is freed from the lab in the UT pacifist ending
>>694235825yeah very weird. Makes ya think
>>694235775If that was the case why go to the truelab with Clover? It seems to me, you she knew Kanako was in a deathlike state, but was going to use Clover's soul to bring her back, and continue Chujin's work.The writing's pretty much on the wall.
>>694235539Cope.
>>694235775that's only after the pacifist fight where the devs brush the kanako plot under the rug, the entire thing feels like was scrapped late in development
>>694235463Example?If your going to say there's a better fic, I would assume you would have mentioned them in the same sentence.
>>694236049its just ESLs who misinterpreted the pacifist ending
>>694236229>>694235635wait a minute....ITS THE SAME FIC. I THOUGHT IT WAS DIFFERENT.FUCK, MY FAVORITE FIC WITH THIS CONCEPT TURNED INTO CRAPFUCK FUCK FUCK
>>694235775Do you guys think Chujin's research actually could have succeeded if he had a pure soul? We never actually get to see if Ceroba could truly finish the serum with Clover's pure soul. All we have to support that is Chujin's word, and clearly he isn't a perfect source when it comes to soul science.
>>694236337anon, do you know what that means?start grabbing a pen and get to writing
>>694236670If I must write a good fic with this concept, then I shall do it.
>>694236607if he did get to absorb a human soul in the first place which was needed to create the extract for the final serum, the plot of UT couldn't happen, because he could leave the barrier and get more souls easily>>694236337ouch
>>694236729i believe in you anon
>>694236607The Axis we see is functional even if he is a goofy guy.I guess the serum was some soul goop with traces of determination.Chujin was probably very close to finding out about DT, but didn't have the resources Gaster and Alphys had.
>>694236868>he could leave the barrier and get more souls easilyHe was worried that monsterkind would be destroyed even if the barrier was broken. His plan was about creating an army of super soldier boss monsters with the serum.
>>694236607chujin was a mediocore engineer who got a u tried award.Theres also nothing suggesting he had a background in soul science. All he has is a background in is engineering or carpenting.Chujin also displays remarkable incompetence by testing on himself. Even though he knew sicence was a dangerous game.Also his only succes was axis. however the thing is axis isnt that impressive, when you notice how theres preexisting ai. (mr screen. vender machine). And those ai seem as complex as axis.So desu I wouldnt trust chujins judgement.
>>694237009he'd just act like a proper kitsune and trick travellers on the mountain before stealing their soulsthough I get he was a coward, but even so the fact he had working robots that could (and did) kill a human is enough to snap canon in half, since if monsters had tech to make robots (mettaton is a fake robot), then as soon as they are able to send one beyond the barrier they could attack humanity with an army of robots and as soon as a single monster can absorb a human soul, the entire tide of war can change
>>694237208Getting out of the barrier with a single soul to harvest the others was a plot contrivance even in the original Undertale.
>>694236607For one the soul in question had to be pure.Secondly the soul had to allow themselves to be absorbed.Thirdly the serum could only be created from a boss monster soul fused with human soul.Finally knew how to create it properly because he used himself as test subject when he tried to absorb and fuse integrity's soul with his own.He likely would have succeeded, then again, he wouldn't have a reason to kill a human with a pure soul, as they wouldn't be a threat to him or his family.Although he already had plans to protect Monsterkind, The Snowdin incident was his main motivation to create the serum in the first place.
is axis even that impressive when compared to other robots (guardener, mr screen, etc)
>>694237208>they could attack humanity with an army of robotsAnd immediately get destroyed by humans, whether by adults being more murderous than children, or just by artillery, rifles, and other modern technology. Clover manages to justice blast Axis.
>>694237615axis was the only robot who actually, you know, killed a human
>>694237724and then get easily killed by the next one (clover). If the player wanted to kill axis....
>>694237661the justice blast is soul magic which only very few humans have, and sure modern humanity has weapons to attack them but all the monsters have to do is act sneaky until they get enough souls to have a single god like monster, that and an army of robots would cause humanity to lose (but if we go with toby using old RPG tropes, it means a "hero" would raise from humanity to fight the new "monster lord")
>>694237829 (not that anon)>the justice blast is soul magic which only very few humans havethis is an assumption. For all we know a lot of justice soul humans have this ability.
>>694237829Asriel with the equivalent of 7 souls still loses to Frisk, who is just a very determined child.
>>694238196 (not that anon)but asriel lost because frisk reminded them of chara.The situation would be different if it was a different human.
>>694237786The player doesn't even influence Clover to do that. That do that of their own volition.In fact a lot of what Clover does in the vengeance route is unprompted. It's for that reason Martlet is shown to be the monster that influences them the most, considering Clover spares her twice unprompted, and actively goes out of their way to find a reason that justifies killing her, when they did no such thing for the other monsters they encountered.
>>694238196asriel is a dumb kid and toby confirmed frisk only survived because of the player's determination, and the player is pretty much an eldritch being in the tobyverse
>>694238196Asriel/Flowey was an imbecile who liked to toy with his enemies instead of dealing a quick fatal blow.
>>694238292Im talking about pacifist. Clover can kill axis in pacifist, if the player wants that.
>>694237497>Secondly the soul had to allow themselves to be absorbed.Nta, but doesn't that heavily contradict the original Undertal? Since every single monster was trying to steal your soul and even thos who would've known if it couldn't work were acting as though it would. If it really was like that then how could those seven souls have been used for anything at all?
>>694238468my headcanon is that since flowey is souless he could easily control the souls, that and the souls had been stimuli deprived for who knows how many yearsfrisk needed to ACT to "wake them up" to help him, but in the end the souls chose to rebel against him and flowey couldn't do muchand chara supposely had more control than asriel when they were fused but asriel still was able to stop chara from unleashing their power on the village
I don't think trying to powerscale Toby's works is going to lead anywhere since it is clearly the kind of story where things happen for the sake of a cool moment.
>>694238623Yet everyone else, including Toriel and Asgore (who would know how it works) acted like you could just take a soul and absorb it against its will.
>>694237829>the justice blast is soul magic which HEADCANON
>>694238916I think that as long as the monster's willpower is stronger than the human's they have control, like with the chara and asriel thing, but toby wont ever confirm it and it seems DR soul rules are different so we will likely never see it or get an explanation>>694238986all of UTY is headcanon though
>>694238468It's kind of explained that most of the monsters you encounter were simply greeting you in their own unique way, that just so happens to involve throwing deadly projectiles at you.The only monsters you encounter that genuine tries to get your soul, is Undyne, because of her dedication to freeing monsterkind, and Asgore who was just collecting human souls like pennies.Mettaton was more interested in entertainment. Alphys didn't even try. The thought never once crossed Toriels mind. Papyrus is literally the only monster in the underground that can't/won't kill you because he's to nice. And Sans was keeping a promise.
chujins plan is going to completely fail if it turns out humans havent forgotten about the monsters.Imagine an army of robots leaving the mountain and then immediately getting carpet bombed.
>>694238815The only powerscaling that's really established in Undertale is (You) > average human > Asgore > monsters. Everything thing else is at best inferred and usually complete assumption.
>>694239064Asriel literally tells you control was split between him and Chara, so there's no who's stronger, it's more mutual agreement, otherwise Chara would have never been in control of the body at any point, nor would Asriel be resisting Chara when they wanted to defend themselves.From the way I see it, as long as both parties don't have a conflict of interest, there won't be issues with how the body is controlled between them.
>>694239108Mettaton and Muffet want Frisk dead. Mettaton so that he could go to the surface and become an entertainer, while Muffer because she was offered money for it.
>>694239108>It's kind of explained that most of the monsters you encounter were simply greeting you in their own unique way, It never says that in the game.
>>694239406So then how did the monsters ever plan to defeat humanity or even unseal the barrier? I'm sure the souls of all those people they murdered would be more than a little hesitant to help their murderers.
>>694239595(not that anon)Maybe human souls lose their will over time. It would explain how flowey was able to control the souls, for a while.
>>694239698this, I think if a soul spends too long in the jar they become sensory depraved and act as just living batteries, unless someone is able to reach in and call to them
>>694239809>I think if a soul spends too long in the jar they become sensory depraved and act as just living batteriesrip clover
>>694239867another reason why the timescale of UTY doesn't fit
>>694239916true, would a year be enough for a soul to get sensory depraved and become a living battery.
>>694239064I think its probably that you have to psychologically beat the soul into submission, and that Chujin was just extremely weak. Trying to siphon off part of his soul while attempting to absorb a human one probably didn't help either. At least that's how I think it works in UTY. In base UT, I think killing a human requires breaking their will, since they can just load game if they die. Once you've do that their soul won't fight back anyways.
>>694239424The only monster that's genuinely trying to get Frisk's soul is Undyne. Muffets fight can literally be skipped entirely if you have the right item. Plus Muffet admits at the end of her fight, that she made a mistake, and her actions were from a misunderstanding.And Mettaton throughout all his encounters is always messing about, and making things as entertaining as possible for his audience.
>>694240398Mettaton had to be convinced by his fans to stay.And you're forgetting Mad Dummy.
>>694239698I don't think a soul loses their will at all. In fact I'm pretty sure it's always there.I think the defining factor is determination. As long as your the most determined you can pretty much accomplish whatever you set your mind to.Which includes but not limited to: Cheating death. Surviving the end of the world.Making dreams materialise into reality.Refusing your own broken soul.Saving other lost souls.Restoring one's empathy.You get the idea.
>>694240995(well when you think about it will and determination are very con-)but yeah, though cant I still say they lose their determination over time. I think getting stuck in a jar and being sensory deprived, wouldnt be good for their determination.
>>694240092From Flowey's account, he was the only one that could save and load, until Frisk came along and took control.The previous humans activities is pretty much unknown to is, but from what was told to us in UT, they pretty much wondered the underground and ended up getting killed at some point.
>>694241559flowey very likely only came to be after the 6th human had fallen, it isn't confirmed explicitly but its the only thing that makes logical sense since he says in UT he never got asgore to show him where he stored the souls, and you really think he would just sit by while a human was strolling in the underground?
>>694239431It doesn't but there is a book in snowdin (I think?) that says something along the lines of "humans will never understand what it feels like to receive a bullet pattern letter since they can't use magic", wich implies that bullet patterns are a form of greeting between monsters
>>694241559From an outside observer that's also what the player quitting after dying in UT would look like. It really feels like the game is implying that all the other human got worn down and gave up eventually.
>>694241957That doesn't mean every and their mother trying to kill you were actually just being friendly.
we dont know much about the outside worldthe outside world could be many things. I will simply it to two extreme points.1. the world has forgotten magic and soul power. The outside world is just like normal humanity.Chujins plan can work here2. The world hasnt forgotten magic and soul power. Humanity is a techno magic civilizationchujins plan will fail badly.,
>>694242979we know based on the pacifist credits and it looks pretty similar to the normal modern worlddeltarune could count too
>>694242979Here's a third extreme, it doesn't exist. At least not beyond the ending screen and credits. Everything about the game is canon, including the files. And you can check the files. Aside from those two previously mentioned exceptions its not there.
>>694243104but looking like a normal world doesnt necessarily prove its normal humanity.It could be a harry potter thing where the magic is hidden.OrIt could be a final fantasy versus thing where the world looks like a normal urban city and etc. But theres still fantasy elements.(FUCK YOU SQUARE ENIX GIVE ME BACK VERSUS 13)>>694243157the undertale is truly just a game option. its all just a game...I like it due to how meta undertale is.
>>694243157Going with that logic there never existed a world before the war or even before frisk fell, the world ends as soon as you close the game
>>694243762In a way it does. Personally I think Undertale exists purely within the suspension of disbelief. It only exists as far as you believe it. Just like the dark worlds do in Deltarune. Those things happened, but they also didn't happen. Depending on where you view them from. To the characters within the world, they're real. To us, mere concepts.
>>694231786I like the look of this Zartlet.
>>694244348(not that anon)this is so meta I like it.
>>694234408>>694235797>>694236337Why is it whenever someone decides to write a fic using this concept they always fuck it up because they keep trying make Ceroba and in this case Kanako, untouchable powerful boss bitches.And then when these authors get called out on there bullshit they get salty about it?This fic is supposed to about Ceroba suffering consequences about her actions, and she's barely suffered any consequences.
>>694244994>make Ceroba and in this case Kanako, untouchable powerful boss bitches.sounds based to me
>>694244550I'm more into buff zenith Martlet but I can enjoy a thick Zartlet too
>>694244994because foxfags are biased towards foxes, no matter how much they try to hide it
>>694242827Most of the random monster were probably only greeting you tho, the only ones that actually attack you are the minibosses, main bosses and the mercenaries from the core
>>694245419yeah, they should be completely unbiased birdcucks instead as seen in this based general
>>694243157>>694243762>>694244572I don't like this and I hate that this is probably where tobias will steer deltarune towards
>>694246391That's where we were from the start. You just didn't see it. And you can choose to not seevit if you don't like it. Its all fiction after all, you can imagine whatever you want.
>>694246391I mean, the alarm clock dialogue does imply that there is a world outside of the game, doesn't it?Unless you want to belive that the world depicted in the alarm clock only exists within the context of those dialogue boxes
>>694246859It doesn't imply it any more than dialogue in the game or the credits do.
>>694246994But its new official content that implies the existance of something beyond the base game, unless you want to think that the alarm clock is a separate "world" from base UT and the stuff in the alarm clock doesn't exist at all
>>694242979How about this: Undertale is like a theater play, and the characters are just actors.Want proof?>In the naming screen, several characters acknowledge the player and the menu if you try to use their names.>In the end of Hard Mode, Toriel acknowledges that it is a story and talks to the creator himself about it.>In the final screen, Toriel and Flowey even talk to each other.It's all just a show for you.
>>694248059I hate that theres evidence for this...
>>694248059The battle screen also ties into this with how all the monsters are in black and white, all animated like puppets. It's all shadows being cast on a wall, characters puppeted for your entertainment.
>>694246391The reaction over how Deltarune ends has the potential to be a Phantom Menace tier meltdown.
>>694248059UNDERTALE WAS KRIS CHILDHOOD PLAYEVERYONE WAS ACTINGKRIS WAS ACTING LIKE FRISKTORIEL WAS ACTING LIKE THE QUEENASGORE WAS ACTING LIKE THE KINGSANS WAS SANSETC ETC
>>694248513BUT THEN WHO WAS FLOWER?
>>694248959ASRIEL VOICE ACTING A SOCK PUPPET.
>>694246391DRYanon2 here, i have a contingency for that.ive got contingencies for everything.there is not a single curveball toby can throw that i havent planned for.ideally the game will take place directly in the world of deltarune, but worst case scenario the game will be "canonically derived" from the events of deltarune.>>694245419i am biased towards the foxes, but in my own setting i made them balanced even if they are the pet race
>>694249070Which scenarios have you prepared for?
>>694248513>SANS WAS SANSOne small issue, Sans just moved into Hometown
>>694247754It doesn't matter what implies its existence. We can check ourselves and see that its not there. So from our perspective, the suface world doesn't exist.
>>694248059>It's all just a show for you.It is, its just a video game instead of a play.
>>694249384darn it.
>>694249070>i am biased towards the foxes, but in my own setting i made them balanced even if they are the pet racerespect for knowing your biases
>>694249070>, i have a contingency for that.ive got contingencies for everything.there is not a single curveball toby can throw that i havent planned for.What if Toby himself states on screen that all your characters (which he lists by name) are all gay transbians in every possible universe and timeline? What then, huh?
I wonder how deltarune fandevs will plan for the noelle is trans scenario.
>>694249804Not him but Toby isn't the author of DRY2 or even UTY so his opinion in this matter is just a headcanon
>>694230572For what it's worth, I'm still here too. The guy who wanted to make a template/framework project for Godot so that people could more easily start on their fangames without having to recreate the tedious parts like the dialogue system or the basic combat stuff. Though I haven't had much progress, but I do have functioning choice dialogue now. It's not very...automated, I found that the best way to give the user freedom in this case was to simply let them manually position the choices every time. They do have a "default" position but it might look weird depending on the amount of text and choices.
>>694249890That will never happen but the Deltatraveler devs are already anticipating it, I have no proofs but neither do I have doubts about this
>>694248513>Kris was acting like FriskWrong. Kris was acting as Flowey, wanting his best friend (Asriel) to keep playing with him, because everyone else (hometown) had become so boring. It was one giant venting session between two brothers.
>>694249070is there actual animosity between Cerobafags and Martletfags or its it just standard waifu shitposting?
>>694250139YOU ARE TELLING ME KRIS WAS BOTH FRISK AND FLOWEYHOLY SHIT
>>694250057sad thing is I can believe this.
>>694249890They have a stockpile of pipe bombs prepackaged in boxes addressed to Toby's house.
>>694250002I got lazy with my implementation of dialogue choices in Naranja and I made it so you can only have 2 choices at a time, their positions are automated but if I needed to give the player more choices I would probably do it like you did and have it be manual when you have more than 2 choicesWorking with the limitations of Undertale's dialogue box is a real pain in the ass most of the time, setting up the dialogue system so it looks right took me almost as much time as making the new FIGHT mechanics
>>694250057They've already got the entire Susie x Noelle futa scene scripted and animated.
>>694250417That's exactly what I'm here for. My goal is to get all that bullshit out of the way.
>>694250148There is some guy that comes every thread to complain about "bird cucks" but I think it's just a schizo from /utg/ that hates Berdly and ended up here.I'm guilty of being a Martletfag while also mocking Ceroba a lot, but for the latter is due to my frustration with how she was handled in the game, not because of waifufaggotry.
>>694250941i don't care about berdley and i don't go to /utg/, i just fucking hate what these threads became after spring
>>694250514Its going to be unskippable and be an integral part of the plot too, in fact the scene takes the majority of that chapter's playtime
>>694250941Im different.I make fun of ceroba because shes my favorite character.If she wasnt then I wouldnt be interested with her, at all.Which is why I dont think about martlet at all. Shes nothing to me.
>>694249237everything that could "reasonably" be a twist thats not just an ass pullfrom simple rules like if monsters work the same as humans or not to the game being a gaster simulation or even the case of the world just not existing.right now im operating off a baseline assumption of:>all rules are the same as they are in undertale with the exception of magic being taboo. there is no current direct evidence that breaks this>continuing on the above, magic IS possible in the light world. see: the creation of dark fountains (no current plans to use this outside of making fountains. just nice to have as a rule if plans do change)>the world of deltarune exists with no meta fuckery about it>darkners are formed off the memories and ideas surrounding their light world object.>darkners dont have a soul, instead being fueled purely by the fountain. >they are, however, capable of absorbing a lightner soul to become free from the fountain. (spamton made an attempt and flowey is a form of darkner)i have backup plans for if any of these are proven wrong, but it seems to be the safest bet at the moment
>>694250002>>694250417the way I set it up in DRY1 was that there are always 4 text objects inside the textbox at all times that you can then assign 4 choices in a text command (by typing '>prompt,A,B,C,D' where the letters are the string id of the dialogue line it gets the text from, you can leave the slot blank with no text to skip that choice, so you can use just the left and up slots for example by leaving the right and down ones empty)you can also assign a separated command that takes the string target which is what dialogue is called after a choice is made (as '>redirect,A,B,C,D'), or leave it blank and the textbox will close itself after a choice is selected, but the last selected choice is saved as an int so it can be used in events or other places
>>694251129sadge>>694251273In my case, the injection scene mindbroke me that much. I can't stop wondering what the hell where they thinking with that scene.I genuinely wish Ceroba was a better character.
>>694251675same I have problems with the injection, ending, and the amount of ceroba focused bias.I still like her a lot but these flaws are very apperant.
>>694251301>the world of deltarune exists with no meta fuckery about itI suppose that's fine since UTY ignored most of UT's meta elements, but that is almost certainly not the case in Deltarune. That game's all about metafiction.
>>694251773(me) also I feel like the devs should have added more to her character. In game she has a suprisingly lack of character outside the whole chujin plot thing.Like what habits does the roba have?
>>694245328I agree. Why have one kind, when you can have both.
>>694251301I doubt the first 3 ones will stand against the next revelations, specially the third one.>flowey is a form of darknerThis is a theory that I like, though I'm expecting something along the line of "Flowey is a failed darkner" in the same vein that Alphys's experiments are generally worse attempts at what Gaster was probably trying to do. As in, Flowey has no feelings but Darkners do.
>>694251773I find it a shame because her design is gorgeous.
>>694252020roba's design is kinda boring, without the snoot she is just an anime girlI prefer aged up kanako instead
>>694251579I'm assuming that you built your dialogue system from scratch, right?Both me (naranjanon) and the Godot template anon are using the dialogue system 2 asset as a base for the dialogue system
>>694252072I like the kemono thing going on with her.I actually checked if there is an anime with anthro magical girls like Ceroba or Mew Mew, but I didn't find anything like that.
>>694251895She is canonically stupid, besides that she doesn't seem to have any hobbies or aspirations
>>694252119yes I built my own system that parses a txt file and stores it all in a dictionary using string keys, as well as custom commands for controlling entity animations, portraits and other things, I don't know what the godot dialogue addon works
>>694251909ANON I CAN SEE HER AREOLAS YOU DIDN'T CENSOR IT ENOUGH
>>694245328these set of images unironically made me like martlet and the game even more. i really wish sig made some like these again
>>694251909You missed one
>>694251675>twitch streamer bullshityet again another fucking cancerous newfag transplant
>>694252203she ends up just being a tool of the plot. Just the tragic mom character and thats about it. Nothing really elseIts really fucking sad the devs made it her that way. Instead of having a expanded character like alphys undyne or etc. Shes just what her role is and thats about it....>>694252020this, roba has a very great design
>>694250941so we just got our own schizo. wonderful
>>694252494the fuck are you talking about?
Are there any other fangames worth playing? Either full or just single battles like Red?
>>694251579>there are always 4 text objects inside the textbox at all timesSame here, they're all hidden but when a choice appears they are unhidden in proportion to the amount of choices. So if 2 options appear, Left and Right will be unhidden. If 3 options appear, Down will also be unhidden. Though those are just their names, as I said, I set this up such that the user can manually set the position of each button before displaying the choices. So Down doesn't actually have to be down, it can be somewhere else on the screen. Maybe I'll rename them to reflect that and just name them Response1, Response2, etc.
>>694252424I miss Sig
>>694252606Oh yeah, and the Empty button. It's there to house the soul when the choices are first displayed, you know, like Deltarune does it. It just plops the soul in the middle of the box. Once you move onto another button, it listens to its own focus_exited signal and hides itself so it can't be selected again.
>>694252545remember the cerobaschizo? i wonder if its the same guy
>>694252569scampton the great is pretty good but dont look at how the team handled the rest of deltarune if you don't want to die from cringea different snowgrave is good toocoincidentally both of those are spamton centered
>>694252569"Scampton the great" is one of the best single battle fangames out there even if it comes from a pretty autistic AUAs for full fangames, I think only UTY and fucking OUTERTALE of all things have full fangames
>>694252725he didnt go anywhere though, he uploaded a new chapter of return to form last week
Wildfire Vendor https://files.catbox.moe/lnjig0.mp3
>>694252804there's UT2 revenge of the robots (shitpost RPGmaker game) and overtime (TF2 repaint)
>>694252774>>694252804>>694252569"Underfell one hell of a show" is also really cool and was made by the same guy that made a different snowgrave
how to get impregnante manlet ending?
>>694252870>vendori like it, but its too upbeat and "active" for a shop theme.
>>694253075maybe its an enemy that is a vendor? but you're kinda right, maybe if it was slowed down a bit
>>694252863Hoorya!
>>694253132enemy vending machine - on demand battles
>>694253231oh fuck, if thats what it is, then its good
ceroba is the knight
>>694252870Reminds me of the Duclare Shateau music from Deus Ex.
>>694173803>Epistle 3 fangame>Shows Ravenholm in teaser?
post your CRACK SHIPS
>>694252203She used to go to the gym too, I think thats the only "hobby" Ceroba ever had
>>694252753can't you just set the soul position directly instead of needing a node + signal for it?
>>694245328Having both is always the right answer.
>>694254108Mo and Mooch trying to scam each other
>>694254585Yeah that's much better.Censored but still hot.
>>694252217>I don't know what the godot dialogue addon worksIt does a lot of things, it works using these ".dialogue" resources wich are pretty much .txt files that have their own editor and get parsed when you save them, they divide all dialogue into tittles and a => END marker, by putting all the relevant dialogue betwen the tittle and the END markers you can have a single resource with a ton of dialogue for an specific scene or an specific character, these resources have lots of options and functions built into the editor like tags than can change the text speed mid dialogue or call functions at specific points, set variables, do else if conditionals in the resource itself among many other thingsThe plugin really does a ton of heavy lifting for you and gives you enough room to add new functions with a bit of work, like adding dialogue portraits or "voices" for the text typing with specific tags
>>694254585I like the different ways both artists drew Zenith Martlet here
>>694254421Yeah I guess, but I figured it was easier to use a button since the whole focus mode thing Godot has handles going from one button to another automatically. Like, I don't have to code anything, I just put a button in the middle of 4 other buttons, focus that middle button, and now Godot knows that if I press left it should focus the button on the left.
So is this one of those weird schizo things with chara and 50 different sans or something different?
>>694254108Delta Ceroba X Delta Asgore (if Chujin is dead)I think it would be funny since UT Ceroba hates Asgore so much and Delta Ceroba would be an extremely devoted wife to Asgore, specially when compared to Toriel
>>694254751>>694254889I guess I'm old fashioned, I prefer to code everything myself if I can, I just really use godot instead of a framework because coding a rendering engine/memory management is too much work and I can't be assed to spend so much time on that one a project that maybe won't get finished
>>694254585So one Zenith Martlet has big breasts and is flustered.The other Zenith Martlet has big breasts and knows how to use them.
>>694254968Almost entirely different. The only characters from UT proper are Toriel, Asgore, and Flowey, with both Toriel and Asgore only showing up at the very beginning and very end respectively.
>>694254968Belive it or not, this fangame makes ZERO mention of Sans or Chara, most of its cast is original, it was a breath of fresh air for the Undertale fandom and its the reason why people are still talking about it today and inspired so many fangames
>>694254998cerogore.....deltarune cerogore....this...this can work..
>>694254968Something different, it's almost entirely original characters save for like 4 of them.
>>694254968Nah it's actually mostly avoided ALL of that cancer because as a project it started before tertiaries started making up tons and tons of functionally incompatible fanfiction.It mostly plays the 'You play as Justice Man' straight aside from Flowey being there (Flowey initially was more popular than Sans/Chara in secondary media)
>>694190381>Zartlet is now almost always depicted as muscularSignirsol's really rubbed off on them, huh?
>>694206806Is that skeleton named Jokerman?
>>694190381I just realized this artist drew the bikini on Zenith Martlet, the same way this artist did >>694231786
>>694255073I can undestrand wanting to code everything by yourself if you are experienced enough, since it gives you absolute control on what you can do with the system, but for someone like me that started game dev like 10 months ago a plugin like this is a godsend, I don't use many plugins in my project anyways since I still prefer to learn and code everything by myself but there is no way I could have made a system as complex as the dialogue system from the plugin, at least not in a reasonable amount of time, I already learned a metric ton of things while developing the Naranja prototype anways
UT yellow is arguably a better game than the original Untertale and more technically impressive too. The fact it's free is almost a crime
>>694255253we need more chubby zartlet STAT
>>694255253Looks like a mix of Signirsol and the other artist the drew a lot of Zartlet, considering Zartlet isn't show to be to muscular here, and she seems more curvy to.
>>694255589No.
>>694255554It's more technically impressive but there are various weak spot compared to Undertale.
>>694255589NoWe need more chubby Martlet and more amazonian Zartlet
>>694255713>>694255795cowards. you just dont see the vision because im p sure theres no chubby zartlet art
>>694255657She is muscular in that pic tho, you can see it in her arms and her abs, she just isn't bodybuilder tier like in the signirsol drawings
I wish there was more crossover art of Undertale Yellow and Deltarune, or maybe that's just me wanting anything new out of either.
>>694255931maybe if DRY ever comes out
>>694255931just a few more months anon
>>694255931we need more berdly and mart art.
>>694255885Why would the super soldier serum mean to resurect fallen down monster and turn normal monsters into powerful being still kept Martlet as chubby?It makes sense that she becomes muscular when powering upChubby Martlet is hot and cute tho, I won't deny that
>>694256124>Why would the super soldier serum mean to resurect fallen down monster and turn normal monsters into powerful being still kept Martlet as chubby?what if the serum distributed part of her goopiness to body fat? idk man its just art, it can do anything
>>694255927Signirsol draws Zartlet with a lot more muscle, admittedly a but to much desu. I like the way this artist and the other drew her, and nice blend of muscle but also keeping her body attractive.What's funny is Sig has drawn Zartlet like this once, and it was for a ref for his fic as shown in the attached image.Honest I think he should draw Zartlet more with this kind of body type. It works for her.
>>694256538I also agree sig should Zenith Martlet's body more like this.
>>694255885Well you thought wrong.https://files.catbox.moe/imn04h.png
>>694256538Nah he draws her with the perfect amount of muscle and thickness>>694256747>I also agree sig should Zenith Martlet's body more like this.
>>694256538>picpoor fucking Kanako
>>694256538Too much muscle is bad, of course being to skinny is also bad. I like when Zenith Martlet isn't shown to have a huge build.I'm sure Signirsol must of been aware of this, which is why he drew her in this way for his fic.
>>694257371more like poor clover since he is shorter than kanako
>>694257506And he's a lizard monster, and not a bird monster.
>>694236729I wish you the best of luck my friend.
>>694257506>>694257618no no no I got finished reading Return to Form a few days ago.
>>694236337You should read the comment section on chapter 17, it's actually hilarious seeing the author unable to comprehend that they not right about everything, and that people actually disagree with them, instead of just agreeing with everything they do or say.
>>694256965eh... this is preggo not chubby, but thanks
>>694253714Demo for testing the game mechanics is a snowy Ravenholm, dunno why but probably a side-story like what Ep.4 was gonna do. Main game is still obviously Antarctica.
we have had enough of the ceroba criticism.Its now time to talk about starlo ah-hemstarlo literally tried to kill a child because of his ego. At least ceroba did it for the greater good. Starlos reasoning can just be summed up to:reeeeeeee
>>694258354ah, did you see how sig drew amalkanako yet then?
>>694260545Starlo has autism, Ceroba is just stupid.Don't care though, still love 'em.
>>694252870What kind of character would this track belong to?
>>694260545>Starlo literally tried to kill a child because of his ego.Exactly. He drags Clover around on his LARP while blocking the exit.>for the greater goodNot really.
>>694260545First, Starlo got called out for his bullshit.Second, he wanted to give the soul to Asgore to help him break the barrier. You may think it was a flawed plan, but most monsters were waiting for that moment and he was trying to help to achieve freedom for everyone.
>>694260545At least Starlo realizes by himself that he is a retardWich kinda sucks because none of the ACTS you do during the fight matter
>>694261302I think thats a flaw with the act system in general (at least in UTY and other fangames), you kinda just have to wait/survive until the monster is done attacking rather than it being an active part in interacting with the monster, and then there is the issue that the ACTs are all scripted (sure maybe for bosses it can be but regular monsters could help to have some randomization like SMT negotiations)DR suffers from the issue where if you want to solve a fight non lethally you have to spam the same ACT over and over, and the boss is still balanced where you have to go through most of its attack cycle anyway
>>694261302>none of the ACTS you do during the fight matterOne of my few complaints about UTY is that there are no neat pacifist ways to solve fights, they're all just waiting it out.Compared to Undertale, where the only fights you have to wait out are Papyrus and Muffet. Undyne you wait a little, then run away from, Toriel you MERCY a bunch, and MTT has his cool ratings thing.
>>694260551Yeah I saw. Amazing that the story turns Alphys from irresponsible to irredeemable.
>>694261302How many pacifist boss fights require some creative use of acts other than Decibat?All the others I can remember are very basic stuff like shaking Dalv's hand at the end or insulting Martlet, again at the end.
>>694261526I don't like how Deltarune turned the act system into a pretty much reskinned attack button for some enemies and bosses but at least there are acts with minigames and other interesting interactions, like some of the acts in the main/secret boss fights wich give you buffs
>>694261819having ACTs change the monster behavior or have more minigames where you have to succeed (the royal guard fight is the only one I can remember doing that) would be cool but I understand it is a lot more work to implement
The thread is going to end soon so I will post my spicy take about martlet. Not now but very soon.
>>694262256What do you mwan by spicy take? A drawing or a greentext?
>>694262590spicy take as in im going to say something so controversial about martlet, that its going to piss off some people.
>>694262704Say it now you coward
>>694262873i will soon.
Martlet is objectively the most boring character in the game. At least with others they have an impact on the player. Such as cerobas tragic syringe and kill child tardation. Chujins tragic downfall and subsequent causation of a lot of negative shit. Starlos larping copium and desire to kill a child due to his ego.Mart, mart doesnt have anything comparable to this for most of the game. Shes just the generic oh Im a happy kind loving monster who is derpy. Which tbf is nice but also very boring.The only exception to this is martlets genocide battle. But thats only the ending of only one route.
>>694263814that wasn't a spicy take at all though
>>694263979damnit, I need to add more spices. Back to the drawing board
>>694263814Martlet is a grunt. Even if she is a happy, kind, loving, derpy monster, she is a soldier, and she does have the magic steroids on every route.
>>694263814>Martlet is objectively the most boring character in the gameNotice how you didn't even remember Dalv exists lmao
>>694263814this is 100% correct
>>694258429Okay wow, from the looks things this was first time someone actually said something that went against narrative and they couldn't take it.The previous chapters literally just have people saying how amazing it all is, without really much feedback.Funny how when someone does just that, the author's immediately against them and saying they're wrong.
>>694264189true dalv is just completely forgettable. You know what martlet is the second most boring major character in the game. Dalv is the first.>>694264056her being a solider and having those magic steroids, do give her some interesting traits. But other than that shes just boring to me.
Alternate ending to genocidehttps://litter.catbox.moe/4o87qs.pnghttps://litter.catbox.moe/c34btc.png
>>694266228wheres the third part
>>694266607There's a third part? Where?
>>694266883no, im saying there SHOULD be one, but alas
>>694256538is he still the only one to bother with actual talons and not some weird hybrid or just the lazy route of human feet
>>694264691I'm never changing your mind so, what I can say is:I like that she isn't involved in something crazy before the game starts. She has the quiet, simple life that the canon characters in Deltarune have.
>>694270206I guess this is just a personal preference thing.
Can someone edit this image, to make it so armin is ceroba and eren is clover.(context: ceroba knows about the genocide)
>>694239431>It never says that in the game.Librarby says monsters communicate with magic and they literally send birthday cards to one another in "bullet pattern" (aka attacks).A lot of the "attacks" they send out also clearly aren't attacks meant to harm you more than they're just the monster fucking around, like that one insect that just starts dancing when he's alone on the field or Aaron whose attack go faster the more he physically flexes until he hits his limit, or that one fireball with ropes that moves faster the more excited he is and so on.
>>694270740And this is why El Bailador is the most Toby-esque character in UTY
>>694270945bailador should have had more presence through the mines, he kinda just shows up out of nowhere then fucks off
Finished all the routes last night, genocide was last. Thanks to anons telling me what items to save, i beat her in two tries without realizing i could dodge from the beginning of the fight. I heard they added the Endure heal on 2nd phase in a later update, which I had to spam every turn to survive. Must've been insane to fight her without it. Great game. Sex with Clover
>>694271637>Sex with Cloverthat's reserved for kanako onlyspeaking of her, what did you think of her dropped plotline?
>>694271727Never heard of it. What would it have been? What would Pacifist route have been without Ceroba's motivation?
>>694271606that's not too far from how UT handles its mid bosses
>>694271892it's just heavily implied that hotland and true lab were supposed to be part of the game where you then went to save kanako, but the devs cuz it at the last second (even if they pretend they didnt)there is still some data about hotland encounters, kanako theme's motiff in hotland's theme (which you usually don't listen since you stay in the area for 30 seconds) and playable kanako datainstead the devs brushed it under the rug with the totally phoned in martlet line of "ceroba clearly went to the city instead of the lab to juke us!" or "oh well I'll look into kanako" after you beat ceroba, the mask's powers are also never explainedat least sig and dryanon are giving us more kanako content
>>694227365He looks like THAT???
>>694272141 (not that anon)>there is still some data about hotland encounters, kanako theme's motiff in hotland's theme (which you usually don't listen since you stay in the area for 30 seconds) and playable kanako datasource. where are these files and info specifically located
>>694272303the hotland encounter data is mostly a tracker for enemies killed there but you never encounter any enemies in that area, playable kanako is a debug setting if you toggle the debug menu onthe kanako motiff you can listen at 1:45 here https://youtu.be/vP4sadVtFfs?t=101
>>694271606>he kinda just shows up out of nowhere then fucks offVery based of him.
>>694272525things like playable kanakos can be excused away as usual debug features. Other games I believe have simmilar things like that.kanako motiff could just be a reference.hotland ecounter data however, now thats something.Its very odd they have that when you dont encounter enemies there.
>>694272784>kanako motiff could just be a reference.seeing as the justice motiff comes right after I think it was meant to be a reminder of you going through hotland with ceroba to save her, but that's just wishful thinking on my part and wanting more kanako stuff cuz she was done pretty dirty by the devs
>>694272784(NTA) Consider that Kanako is the one plotline that gets hinted since the Dark Ruins. It gets hinted again in the dunes and explained in the wild east but it doesn't really go anywhere.
>>694272937yeah it could just be wishful thinking.Though the fact theres encounter data is sus.Is there any other hard evidence that suggests kanako section was cut?
>>694273047well is there any other data that suggests kanako was cut.(though it is very sus that the kanako plotline gets forshadowed a lot but goes nowhere)
>>694272784>>694273093also only kanako has debug option to replace the player character, no other character has it, which is weird when she shows up only in one cutscene, maybe she would have been a follower otherwise? I'd like to believe it was something more thoughthat reminds me of godotanon, who was making an entire fangame to include a new pacifist ending focused on kanako, but he has been missing for a few months now>Is there any other hard evidence that suggests kanako section was cut?that's about it with hard evidence and the rest is speculation based on how the plotline just ends out of nowhere and how phoned in martlet's justifications for ceroba going to new home are
>>694273315Shes the only debug character....Now that is very interesting. And it is true martlets justification comes out of nowhere. Kanakos plotline doesnt get resolved. And the mask powers dont get explained...hmmAlso didnt someone mention before an important dev left. Which lead to the hotlands section being cut.(also godot anon is still here)
>>694273562>(also godot anon is still here)where?
>>694274332a few threads back. I need to look for it.
Can someone post the cowboy image with the wild west east?
>>694274562I don't remember that one, what characters were in it?
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>>694269187There's literally been another artist shown in this thread that also draws Martlet with her actual bird anatomy and not human features.
>>694269187There's also the artist who drew Martlet here.>>694231786
we are nearing the end limit.any last minute topics ya wanna talk about it.
>>694279070Who's the artist, or is it a drawanon?
>>694279237Same artist who drew this https://x.com/mihaildava/status/1832797033784344795
>>694279070Nice to see more people commission artists to draw Zenith Martlet more.Hopefully it happens more often.
What do you think Clover's favorite type of firework could be?
>>694279404Agreed, Zenith Martlet or even just ordinary Martlet need to be drawn by artists a lot more.
The final conversation will be about martlet, how ironic.>>694280440 (nta)we do need more character representation. Ceroba is just everywhere. Fucking everywhere.
>>694203245Fine, I'll give KnightYume a year, but if she(?) does nothing tangible with Mei by that point, the fluffy child is going to get way more than mere headpats.
obese DRY kanako struggling to keep up with cole in dark worlds.
>>694190517>>694203245In this regard I can see why people suggested commission Martlet or Zenith Martlet, since she's already quite popular and several people have been commissioning art of her, which have been popular especially in Zenith Martlet's case.This fan project was recently put to rest, so I wouldn't recommend commissioning art of the characters that would have been in the cancelled game.
could mo be a good parental figure for clover
>>694280661Same with fics. Most of them are Ceroba adopting Clover fics, and tend to follow the same narrative pattern. Funny how the few fics that focus on Clover and Martlet's relationship, tend to be the good ones.
>>694281270>e Ceroba adopting Clover fics, and tend to follow the same narrative pattern.the fandom really is addicted to the momroba shit>focus on Clover and Martlet's relationshipCan you recommend me some.Im curious.
>>694281142He would be completely unprepared for it and either have to make a number of objectively beneficial but highly disruptive and uncomfortable lifestyle changes, or the struggle of keeping twice the people fed and cared for would crush him and he'd have to let someone else take care of Clover while he scrambles to get out of his debts alone.All that to say, imo he's better off as a "ethically questionable but generally chill guy I know" to Clover.
>>694281331There's a recent fic on A03 called "Partners" the writer also frequents these friends.There's "Return to Form" by SignirsolThere's "A Change In Perspective" also written by Signirsol.There's "Fallen out of Trouble" as well.I'm sure there's more but these are the one's from the top of my head.
>>694281481that would be a great idea for a fic and au desu. I want to read that.also fair enough. Hes better as that chill strange guy figure.>>694281556thank you anon. I will check these out
>>694190517>>694280756Make a commission of instant loss, Martlet turnd into zenith martlet and talks about how she is toing to make Clover pay, next panel is her getting mating pressed and begging for help
>>694280803you can ignore the post but not the idea.fatty kanako insisting that she's fit enough to go on dark world adventures while exhausted after a short one.
the better question is would ceroba let kanako become obese.
>>694282327she's a retard so probably.chujin would either be too busy sperging out about his job or about cole to notice depending on if its UTY or DRY
>>694282650kanako convinces ceroba to let her eat fast food, chips, and cookies every day.Chujin is too absent to stop this.
>>694283064>doesnt die from the serum because she's simply too fat for the needle to reach her soul
>>694283201>dies from diabetes instead. The syringe was just a cover story.
>>694283361monsters are made of magic, they cant suffer our illnesses.that absolute unit is going to be a pain in flowey's neck because she can simply lay on clover to stop him from leaving
>>694281270>>694281331kill yourselves shartletfags
>>694280661>wei need you to blow your brains out niglet faggot
if i met martlet in real life i would happily blow her fucking head off with a shotgun
>>694283420>that absolute unit is going to be a pain in flowey's neck because she can simply lay on clover to stop him from leavingthat is a very horrific and disturbing image, ngl. Very disturbing.
i'm installing extremely powerful radiocommunications towers all over the underground to drive martlet insane and hopefully fry her brain and kill her painfully
i'll rip the radar dish out of a battleship, power it on and point it right at martlet's cabin
>>694283851dont worry, after a year or two kanako will have rubbed off on clover enough that she can no longer completely cover him
>>694283420>>694283851though it does give me a idea.What if clover just uses kanako as a giant dodgeball.Whenever a monster shows up, clover just throws kanako at them lmao.
i'll make kentucky fried martlet
>>694284085>kanako will have rubbed off on clover enough that she can no longer completely cover himoh god
i will torture pacifist martlet by killing clover in front of her then reloading over and over until she's left a broken, near fallen down messthen i'll finish clover off and give his soul to ceroba
i will play duck hunt with martlet except she's the duck and i fire sidewinders at her
i will go into undertale yellow and force thousands of happy momroba scenarios on which martlet dies embarrassing and comedic deaths in the background into happening and i will livestream every single one of them to this general
martlet is a decent character
Why are Cerobafags seething so much?
after doing all of these and showing the graphic results of martlet's many awful and completely deserved fates to this general, i will have victory sex with ceroba
martlet > ceroba
>>694284419that's what happens when you martletfags turn these threads into a reddit refugee general
redditors like ceroba though.
>>694284508I'm not even a Martletfag. Kill yourself.
>>694284508unalive yourself.
>>694284548you come here from reddit to cry about ceroba getting more attention than martlet, you belong on reddit
>>694284609Martlet doesnt interest me tho
>>694284598>unaliveliteral 14 year olds posting in this general
