>I can’t buy cartoon cp, this is a threat to democracy!!!Okay unc, go back to making phone games
yep this. as far as im concerned the less power i have the better. im having a blast regardless
>>694361757Yes sister!~ I hate owning stuff, glad to have Mastercard dictate what I think too!
>credit card companies want to findom mefuck my tiny little trans pecker just got hard as FUCK unf fuck
>>694361757you're outright lying and making a dishonest argument. Why do you hate the truth?
>>694361809Corporations having a say in everything you can or can't do with your own money and time is a return to form!
>>694361963>>694361979>>694361809It’s not censorship because it’s not the government doing itIf it bothers you make your own credit card company
>>694362052>make your own credit card company >entire family gets blacklisted from every bank and has to leave the country
>>694362414Well, it doesn't help that Andrew Torba is a fucking retard on top of it all
>>694361757Why can't they just trick the system by using credit cards to buy funbucks on the site which then can be exchanged for adult games like Steam does?
>>694362052Major corporations or governments, same results.
Those same companies have stakes in porn sites, they're literally trying to drive competition out of business under the guise of playing morality police
>>694361757>cartoon cpIs it cartoon or is it cp? You can't piggyback on real children in your crusade against drawings, schizo-kun.
>>694361809People unironically believe this.
>>694363061And their vote is worth the same as yours. More, in many cases.
>>694361757>If they have control over the clearing house, they can even use it to control speech in other countries.
Shit bait thread.
>>694363049>Yaoi and Yuri have faggots in their community>Furries have dog fuckers in their community>Loli doesn't have pedophiles in their community for some reason.Hmm...
>>694362414>create your own bank>get invaded and murdered
>>694361757>made an entire thread with a strawman argumentwew lad cya
I actually watched this guy's video, and he explained the situation quite well (if true)processors blanket banning content was the lazy and ezmodo solution, instead of negotiating with the individual sites to simply ban certain countries from access, and not even a per-title basisbothering to peruse the individual "goods" per-storefront was already the same amount of effort
>>694363490Actually they do and they often get in fights over it
>>694363490Funny thing is that their is probably a lot of overlap with these communities.
>>694361757I always knew he was a dlsite enjoyer. That said he is completely fucking right. Every other country on the planet should push back again payment processors
>>694362052>If it bothers you make your own credit card companyThis entire thing is happening mostly because the Japanese DID make their own credit card company and they DID try to expand it worldwide before encountering heavy jewfare you motherfucking slimy kike zionist israelite
>>694362052>If it bothers you make your own credit card companyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JCB_(credit_card_company)>CB USA stopped issuing JCB cards in the American market on January 8, 2018, and closed all current consumer credit card accounts on April 30, 2018.They did and got hit by the jews missiles.
>>694361757The FTC actually launched an antitrust case against Visa which is cool inb4 it gets killed
>>694362823if there was a DLsite kinda "funbux" solution on Steam, it's very likely that they'd be less de-bankable for hosting even innocent shit
>>694362052shameless kike
>>694362603You lost. Your opinion doesn’t even matter.
>>694363490>just says things that have little backing
>>694363713Seeing 2 DEI hires made me freaking KEK
>>694361757OP is a registered sex offender
>>694363490you realise ur making an execption here right
>>694362414qrd?
>>694363490>Yaoi and Yuro have pedophiles in their community>Furries have pedophiles in their community>Lolicons have pedophiles in their communitystatistically the latter has the fewest
https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/2016/2017_child_abuse_arrests
>Fanbox = Still accept major credit cards>Dlsite/ci-en = buy Dl Points from "For Books" and "Point Market">Fantia = Tora coins with Bitcash from Seagm. These are absolute assfucks of paywall service though, think hard if you want to buy from them.Anything else should have Proxy buyers that can handle the credit card issue for you.
>>694363061>leftists>people
>>694364515lol
decentralized currency was the answer but it was invaded by jews and grifters
>>694363490True, obviously so, and this makes them seethe because they hate what they are.>>694364515Ridiculous cope. We know what you are.
>>694361757Why do you people make and respond to threads like this?All of you are more than likely on the same page about how you feel about this situation and are just making low effort straw man arguments in a robotic cycle to each other.
Are there any unbiased weebs in here?Is Enjo Kosai still a thing in Japan? I know it's illegal nowadays, but we know that doesn't really mean much.
>>694364261You don't even have a point, stop acting like a woman.
>>694363490>jacking off to hentai of 2 men fucking makes you gay>but please no sir jacking off to lolicon doesn't make me a chomowhy are they like this lol
>>694365083Because loli also includes Hebes which are normal to be attracted to.
>>694364895You've ever had an argument in the shower you always win? It's like that.
I hated Mastercard and Visa long before this censorship debacle. They are literal leeches on the entire system. They represent everything wrong with the current capitalist system where market dominance leads to stagnancy and price gouging while the government does nothing.
>>694361757nobody cares retarded shill
>>694362052>It’s not censorship because it’s not the government doing it
>>694364895Because this is the thread for me to say "virtual cp" and get a lot of angry replies
>>694365181Shill for what?
>>694365017Calling someone a retard isn't an argument either tho.
thread needs more loli
Would you prefer they go for real?
>>694363490>>694365083The point is that if you call the cops and they arrive and see that you called them to protect drawings, you can get fined for calling them for frivolous reasons.That's why you have to resort to this type of shifty, fuckery of talking about who consumes what type of product to paint stuff by association via implication, because your argument doesn't have legs to stand on. Then you throw hissy fits because the law doesn't bend to your self righteous masturbatory catharsis of larping as an online vigilante. You don't actually care about real children getting abused and raped, you care about getting your virtue signal social media gooner fix for the day.That's why you're a clown and why people laugh at you.
>>694363713doesn't stop me from importing "books" from "generic online retailer". hell, i even brought some in myself from my last trip to nipland.
>>694365762how do you slip it past customs?
>>694365738You ever notice how these people never bring up non-con/rape? I think it's interesting to wonder why that is.
>>694365738>you can get fined for calling them for frivolous reasonsLOL
>>694365083>erm actually I am a lolicon and not a pedophile because I am only attracted to anime kids>NOOO DON'T CALL SUBARU/KAZUMA A PEDOPHILE EVEN THOUGH HE IS ATTRACTED TO REAL (to him) CHILDREN
That's a new strawman
I wonder if any newfags actually believe the people arguing in this thread are actually "people" and not just one guy arguing with himself to bump his shitty thread
>>694366127There's a secret way to post without bumping.
>>694363713Australians are such buckbroken faggots. Who’s worse off: Australia or Canada?
>>694365703They already do though...>>694365738>South KoreaWho cares?>That's why you have to resort to this type of shifty, fuckery of talking about who consumes what type of product to paint stuff by association via implicationThe Furry community has a shit ton of dog fuckers, it's like every day when a furry gets outed as a dog fucker. So the same should be true for loli and other degen shit.>You don't actually care about real children getting abused and raped, you care about getting your virtue signal social media gooner fix for the day.\Why do you think people are attacking lolicon? It's because loli is a slippery slope like every other degen shit.>If you fap to gay porn then you are a faggot>If you fap to loli then you are a ________Its not a hard concept to understand.
>>694366051Since when was Subaru a lolicon? I thought people just call him that to poke at the fact he always has little girls in his group by happenstance.
>>694366184Strange he's not doing it.
>>694366204This anon jerks off to rape doujins but it's okay because the girls like it in the end.
>>694365849when they ask you if you have anything to declare you say "no" and then you just walk out. but if you're worried about a random check you can just get fake book covers and bundle them in with sfw books so when they skim over they don't bother looking deeper.
>>694366258I don't look at doujin.
>>694365972It's probably just because they know that's one of the most common fetishes but most people are obviously not rapists. They also get mad when you remind them that their same logic has been unsuccessfully applied to violent video games.>>694366192Is Canada even that bad? From everything I've seen Australia is even worse than the UK with this shit while Canada only seems to be a little worse than the US.
>>694366289Suuure you don't *wink*
Coomer shitskins hanging from the lamp posts :3
>>694366208the TL for the 3rd(?) episode of the current season had a character call him a "Little Girl user" and pro-loli twittards had a meltie over this
>>694366342I really don't. I haven't looked at that shit since high school, which was damn near 20 years ago.
>>694366304As many problems as Canada has, banning media isn't one of them. Though I could see that changing if the next elections don't go right.
>>694366390>pro loli>twitterLEL
Wouldn't it be funny if some deranged mass shooter targeted credit card and payment processor executives instead of niggers in Walmart for a change?
>>694363490what kind of retarded reasoning is this? stop selling call of duty since apparently it creates a massive ammount of potential shooters and it is much easier to get a hold of a gun than loli in the states anyways
>>694365762should be arrested for bad taste
>>694366412It's okay anon, this is anonymous. We know.
>>694366304>Is Canada even that bad?some anon got arrested and publicly branded as sex offender for importing one of those torso shaped fleshlights
the same argument over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
>>694366473i can believe him, i used to only look at solo/ecchi stuff until i got to a certain age
>>694361757wasn't this the same thing that was happening in the 30's?
>>694366465why do you like drawn porn of children if you're not a pedophile
>>694366565the same threads over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. i swear to fucking god there was a thread like this like an hour ago...
>>694361757Who are „They“?
>>694361757OP is a kike and on the deportation list for the trains
>>694366565>>694366623Because >>694366618 really needs to be posted.
>>694366623There was. Made by the same people. Using the exact same gotcha images. And the exact same taking points.
>>694366618you're completely right, I'm also apparently a deranged mass murderer because I watched the Texas chainsaw massacre once
>>694366618I don't, I like drawn porn of fictional characters.
Pedostuff is not allowed. Draw hags with huge breasts
>>694366565New fag zoomers don't know how to not eat bait.
>>694366423ok, the "pro-loli" part of twitter
>>694366559I remember that, and it was entirely based on the packaging tooguy purchased 2, but cancucks ignored the Lolinco one because the fictional character printed on the packaging was determined to obviously be of marriageable age
>>694366907>ignore the obvious loli because she's in a wedding dressWow. Canuck customs, eh.
But Only fans is fine rightHmmm
>>694366907>always put lolis in wedding dressesNoted.
xhe's right
>>694367052Why does everyone forget about hebes? JCs are just going ignored these days.
>>694362052You lost.
>>694367052love how every fucking loli moral debate online is just two retards calling eachother trannies or pedophiles
>>694366461Why would federal agents groom someone to shoot a payment processor executive?
>>694362052>It’s not censorship because it’s not the government doing itWhere did this dumb meme come from anyway?
>>694367119even beyond JCs, JK and even JD is also labelled "pedophilia" to certain groups
>>694362052I'm not Jewish so I am unable to do so
>>694367408What are JCs, JK and JD
>>694362052Yeah the government has nothing to do with it - it's just that those payment providers are literally run by former government officials and they all just somehow tend to follow the current directive - which is censorship in favor of progressive policies.>The UN says Japan needs to change and get rid of ecchi/hentai as well as "problmematic" and "sexist" stereotypes>at the same time payment providers start blocking sites which sell such materialNothing to see here folks.
>>694365136You... argue in the shower?Like, with what? I'm assuming not another person, from way you said this, so yourself? The shampoo?How does this go down for you? Do you brutalize your soap after you're done winning the argument? What happens?
>>694367385Lefties arguing that free speech doesn't apply to social media platforms suppressing right wing opinions because the companies are private.
>>694366019more than fined, you will end ip in prison for misuse of emergency services, a felony offense
>>694367627>when the NPC encounters someone that has an inner voice
>>694367703>when the schizo realizes that other voice in his head yelling and arguing with him, is something other people don't have
>>694367627Debating with yourself is a common method of thinking, don't tell me you're one of those without an internal monologue. People often use "in the shower" to refer to a period of higher inner thought since you're deprived of other intellectual stimuli
If you watch any kinda of porn you're probably a pedo too just saying
>>694361757Reminder japan should adopt Monero to get away from american puritanism
>>694363490Wow, it's almost as if the specific fetish doesn't matter and the problem it's people that want to satisfy their sexual urges regardless of the cost to others.You could even be REALLY bold and say that if you magically removed all those fetishes from people who actually go to engage in sexual acts with animals or children you would still get a rapist.That would be crazy, right?
>>694367803>Bro is admitting he doesn't have an inner voiceHOLY SHIT!!! I'm not even that other anon but I feel sorry for you. I bet life is like a dog or something for you just doing anything and everything without a thought following your instinct.
>>694367556Japanese slang for females of their education systemJoshi-Chuugakusei (女子中学生) would be the middle school equivalent, Joshi-Kousei (女子高生) high school, and J-Daigakusei (女子大学生) for college/universityreplacing the J with D in all cases gets the male, "Danshi" (男子) equivalent
>>694367825A monologue by definition is not an argument, hence the prefix "mono" meaning "singular".Anon didn't say he was deliberating or pondering, He specificly said he was having arguments he always won, implying someone or something else was losing.
tranime faggots want you to believe that masturbating to drawn men isn't gay, that masturbating to drawn animals isn't zoophilia, and that masturbating to drawn children isn't pedophilia.
>>694361757This sucks, but it's easily avoided.>Make adult game>Remove adult content for game>Sell game>Release (non official) patch that restores adult content>Profit
>>694368032hi soiteen
>>694367982>HOLY SHIT!!! I'm not even that other anonSure buddy.I'll ask ur mum when she shows up for her daily to be sure though.
>>694368008So, paedophile, paedophile and normal person. Got it
>>694368023What an extremely stupid post. You should have read it before hitting "Post".
>>694368032Furries have human proportions, tho.
>>694362052Bait or retardCall it
>>694368107>Seething so hard he resorts to shitty mom jokesKEK!
>>694368023Yes you imagine an opposing viewpoint and flip between two trains of thought It's very embarrassing that you're pretending to not understand this, even more so if you genuinely don't
>>694366907I ordered this loli hole and broke it with my fat dickgod I love being american
>>694368008You forgot JS>>694368141Hebe and Ephebo.
>Cartoon>CPjust kill yourself now please you utter retard
>>694363575Just create your own empire that can fend off the west. Might is right.
>>694368305If you have porn of an anime child, what does that make it?
>>694364465Some goyim FAFO
>>694368330Anime child porn. depicted child porn.
>>694368330Based
>>694368371Exactly, it's a kind of CP. It's drawn CP. It's legal, it's ethical, but it's still a kind of CP.
>>694368141well, exactly, that's what I was trying to sayhere you have JK getting labelled as "paedophile" to certain group, and instances of middle-age men dating even JD females frequently get labelled as also pedophiles to certain groupsit's become meaningless to me
>>694368330The box says she is 1000 years old
>>694361757Why did you say something which he didn't say to get attention from people on /v/?
>>694366019Maybe in your shithole that doesn't happen.>>694365972In this day and age nobody is a saint. Usually when you see people like this virtue signaling, they have other shit in the closet or metaphorical or sometimes even literal bodies buried under the floor boards.>>694366204>Why do you think people are attacking lolicon? It's because loli is a slippery slopeSorry for the late answer, i was doing something else.You have to make up your minds whether fictional shit deviates attraction or reinforces it. If with one half of your mouths you bitch about how video game women create unrealistic standards of beauty, meaning that they discourage men from interacting with real women while with the other you claim that lolishit makes people want to rape real children, you have a discrepancy in your logic which needs to be fixed first before you go any further.The discrepancy means you have to choose between media influences the individual or reinforces what is already there, because it sprung from the individual. Currently you're in the former camp, which means that you actually agree that lolishit content makes real children safer because it offers a change for attraction cues for the type of people who would normally go for the real thing, because you also think that fictional women influence beauty standards. (personal opinion: they don't, beauty standards are there regardless of whether video game women exist or not, just like Arnold became the sex symbol even if women didn't know they liked huge V tapers)The latter camp is of the opinion that a pedophile will be a pedophile, no matter what type of stimuli, real or fictional, you put in front of them. They will still be attracted to the real thing regardless of what entertainment you put in front of them, which means that drawn children have no real impact on people who aren't pedophiles because it isn't in their nature to be attracted to children because they're not mentally ill.
>>694361757this thread sucks but here's some info for you retards>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Center_on_Sexual_Exploitation>Formerly known as Morality in Media>In the early months of 2020, the National Center on Sexual Exploitation led a group of NGOs from around a dozen countries internationally in a grassroots public advocacy effort in hopes of pressuring payment processing companies to recognize the allegations of abuse and criminality being levied by groups like NCOSE against pornography websites and cut ties with them>Once affiliated with the Christian Coalition, MIM would state that it "strongly upholds traditional family values and Judeo-Christian precepts"it's just more christfag whining
>>694368330>"Oh, it's not a child, it's just a short, flat chested anime woman">"See, here it says that all characters are 18+ of age, so there is no problem"I don't think most realize the implications of calling a drawing CP, mainly that it trivialize actual CP (that is, involving real children), to the point that I'm convinced it's an actual psyop by actual child molesters.
>>694368575Words have meaning retard. If you tried to tell someone you're not gay because you only fap to drawings of anime men fucking each other in the ass, do you think anyone would believe you?
>>694362603>>694362414I grew up with Torba. He wasn't always an idiot. He got brainwashed into becoming a christian white supremacist.
Is this dumb shit going to be resolved and all goes back to normal or are we stuck with this shit until the and of our lifetimes?
>>694368618There is a reason that they changed to using the term "CASM", which hinges on there being real children abused.
>muh CP boogeyman being used to homogenize and censor content AGAIN and the herd sees nothing wrong with thisclown world
Why do anti-lolifags always end up being actual sex offenders?You’d think they be all for perverted shit rather than raving against it.
>>694368852>CSAM
>>694368618Men have, you know, a dick, which makes it far more clear cut (and even then there are futas to consider, are you gay if you fap to futa fucking each others?)Meanwhile what distinguish a drawn child from a short, flat chested woman is often largely academic, especially for certain artsyles.Meanwhile actual CP has a very simple definition: the person involved was a minor, so it's CP. It doesn't matter that they "looked adult", it doesn't matter that they were a day before becoming 18, it's still CP.This is far more clean cut and, most importantly, less abusable.
>>694368895People with something to hide tend to attack others to throw people off their own trail.
>>694368852Doesn't change the fact that fapping to an anime child makes someone a pedophile.Same for someone who faps to gay anime porn, it makes you gay. >>694368910Anon there's plenty of doujinshi that is explicitly about children. The famous meme example would be Quizlax or Shadman.
>>694368852>abusedwhen will people stop with this meme this so-called abuse is highly exaggerated
>>694368695I grew up with this poster and he was always an idiot and a gay
>>694368809Those same censoring billionaires have been raping children since world war 1. Nothing will ever change.
>>694368946>>694368895You're trying to deflect off the fact you're a pedophile to masturbates to drawn child porn. Sane, normal, Trump voting people see you as that. We are simply telling you how it is, this isn't an argument.
>>694361757how do i build a credit card company? I'll give the consumer the power they want (for an exorbitant apr) because it's what's right (for me and my financial legacy that is)
>>694368895They can't tolerate people with the same fetish actually getting to engage with it in a manner that is compatible with society, especially since for them it probably isn't enough compared to the real thing
>>694362052I think a few people in africa and the middle east tried that. you get the USAF at your front door, apparently
>>694368551>judeo-
>>694369028You cant because the moment an alternative shows up it gets hammered downBanks are also incentivized to blacklist you
>>694369079founded by catholic priests btw
>>694368895child hating has been a good smoke screen for these type of people for a whilesee: Jimmy Saville
>>694368402"Child pornography" is a legal term though, visual depiction of sexually explicit conduct involving a minor (someone under 18). Fictional characters cannot be "minors" because fictional characters cannot have a legal age, they're not real people. There's no such thing as "drawn CP".
What I don’t understand is why there’s a rush to ban 2D cp.Surely it’s better to have pedos live out their fantasies in a way that doesn’t harm actual children rather than leaving them with no outlet but to go and rape children?
>>694368973>>694369024
>>694369024>Sane, normal, Trump voting peopleInteresting that you think it's a Democrat vs Republican thing when a bunch of left wing outlets (VICE, BBC) all think loli is also CP.
I hate pedos, but you are retarded OP, Yoko Taro is right here, not you and your group of trannies
>>694369151Are you jewish? Jews like to manipulate common sense terms like this. Everyone knows what a child is, drawn or real, and everyone knows what porn is.If you fap to pornographic drawings of children you are a pedophile. It's that simple. Like I said, we're not arguing. I'm just telling you what is true. >>694369221It's not a democrat versus republican thing, but democrats are so delusional that they'd probably actually try to justify masturbating to anime children like you are.
>>694369028>how do i build a credit card company?You don't, unless you want to end up like the austrian funny moustache guy. You need real power to wield fiat currency and make it do your bidding, look at what russia/china had to do to stand up to western power. You need a dynasty, a lot of people who will die for you and standing armies. It's a real 4x strategy game with no quick load.
>>694366559What if I think all pedos including lolicons should be hung and castrated in the streets? America should do something like this, execute all pedos importing pedoshit and the world would be better.
>>694361757
>>694368973>or Shadman.I only recall him making a non-nude shitpost meant to piss off Keemstar.
Yea, this anon >>694369258 is obviously just shitposting for (You)s.
>>694369171Because who do you think the billionaires who own mastercard companies are? They rape real children, anon. Whatever the virtue signaling they have been trying to pull is just a way to make their sickness less noticeable.
>>694369258>It's not a democrat versus republican thing, but anyways let me make it a democrat versus republican thing.
>>694369283He's drawn lots of explicitly underaged porn. I remember his drawings of the Pokemon toddler eevee girl being posted here for example. >>694369306>>694369350You are a pedophile if you masturbate to children, drawn or real.
>>694369278You wouldn't make a dent in the amount of child rape and abuse cases that happen because 90% of them are by people who are not pedos psychologically.
>>694369171why do so many people have this extremist retarded take thinking that the next choice is to go outside? i don't think pedos are that social too, and it's hard to find kids outside today anywaysthe next obvious step would be the real thingplus there's no actual evidence viewing cp causes this chain of events, it's all media retardbabble
>>694369258I just told you what is true too, these specific terminologies which you are attempting to brand cartoons as are legal terminologies with specific definitions which don't apply to them. Use different terminology if you don't want to be called out for your misuse of it.
>>694369278If you kill all pedo then 90% of corporations and government will be lost, anon. Don't be so reckless.
>>694369224Well I hate pedros
>>694364989Prostitution and human trafficking is a thing everywhere retard-kun, so yeah I guess.
>>694369428 You are masturbating to drawings of children. You are a pedophile. If you masturbated to drawings of men you'd be gay. If you masturbated to drawings of animals you'd be a zoophile. No amount of mind games is going to change this very simple fact.
>>694369442They aren't actually pedos, they are sadists that enjoy abusing their power. They do it to all ages.
>>694369368That's a neat way of dodging the fact you contradicted yourself in a previous post because you have left vs right brainrot.
It is insane how onlyfans and pornhub is allowed to go buckwild
>>694369504Is this D cup having girl a child?
>>694362052This nigga believes in "crony" capitalism
>>694369507There is no contradiction. If you masturbate to drawings of children you are a pedophile. The fact you are so triggered by that statement says a lot btw. At least own up to it like the Blue Archive guy.
>>694369505They are pedo. Epstein list. Diddy list. And so on.
>>694368551>it's just more christfag whining>Judeo-ChristianYou missed the Judeo part.
>>694369551>actual kids can't have boobstypical gacha retard mindset
>>694369556I masterbate to gore drawing of adult anime women. Good stuff.
>>694369564That's for blackmail and to show power over others.At best they have tendencies but even that is hard to say.
>>694369514It's called whore economic protectionism. Just watch porn, chud, stop looking at them drawings/video games.The Roman empire fell when the matrons became courtesans.
>>694369551I don't know, is she supposed to be a child? >>694369632Which means you are a connoisseur of goru, "gore" in English.
>>694369612Anon, where do you live where kids have D cup tits? And no, teens are not kids.
>>694369514Visa and Mastercard cut off Pornhub a couple years ago.
>another sharty threadwao
>>694369634Jesus christ anon, you are defending real pedo just because those pedo says this anime drawing is bad. Wake up.
>>694361757It's not just loli you fucking mouthbreather. All the content being banned by credit card companies is 100% legal in both countries BTW.Credit card companies are also going after:-Rape-Rough sex (anything that looks non-con)-Tentacles/monsters/furries/beasts-Hypnotism (because non-con) even if consensual-Violent material if sex is present. The sex can be vanilla and consensual but the presence of other violent material in the same product will get it censored.And much much more. You're a fucking moron. If you've been following what's been happening on Patreon to various artists you know how backwards these policies are.
>>694369556>japanese definition doesn't matter >「ロリコン」とは、幼女や少女に対して恋愛感情を抱く人物を意味する表現である。
>>694369667>I don't know,You should know, you said you can tell drawn children.
>>694369258Everyone I've seen advocating for not restricting what art people can draw and sell has been a centrist or a conservative of some description, because those are the people who generally believe in the absolute nature of the US constitution.It only makes sense to restrict such content if you believe the purpose of the law is to control other people's morality and beliefs, rather than to prevent harm.And that is in fact the purpose of the law. Causing harm to real children cannot be allowed, and creating a demand for causing that harm also cannot be allowed. That is the justification for anti-CSEM laws.There is zero harm in allowing fictional content to be sold and distributed freely regardless of how you may feel about it morally.
>>694361757Why does 2B have such perfect kissable lips?
>>694369634>posts attacking drawings>posts defending bankers, politicians and corporationsOh boy I wonder which demographic is behind these posts !
>>694369743I did? You should quote me directly, pedo. >>694369754Who said anything about restricting anything? You are such a fucking kike.
You didn't miss out on Nier R3in, right?
(C)artoon (P)ornAll hentai is CP retards.
>>694369717No. I'm telling you about factual psychology. They aren't attracted to children, they are attracted to power and control, I.E Sadists.
>>694369556Are you really such an amnesic retard that you've forgotten about >>694369258 where you pretended you weren't trying to turn this into a two-party political shitfest?
>>694369683>what is macromastia
>>694368550>If with one half of your mouths you bitch about how video game women create unrealistic standards of beauty, This has nothing to do with loli or anything. I don't know why lolitards like bring up the most random shit ever to justify loli.>meaning that they discourage men from interacting with real women Again this is random but there is some proof in this seeing how retards on this site are turbo virgins and they use goofy meme terms like 3DPD unironically.>other you claim that lolishit makes people want to rape real childrenYep, it these there is proof of this just by looking at other degenerates like furries.>You actually agree that lolishit content makes real children saferI don't agree to anything and loli doesn't make kids safer.> because it offers a change for attraction cues for the type of people who would normally go for the real thingWhen something is normalized people will start to be comfortable with that thing and then they will seek it out that's why furries rape their pets and why loli might rape a child or sibling.>They will still be attracted to the real thing regardless of what entertainment you put in front of them, which means that drawn children have no real impact on people who aren't pedophiles because it isn't in their nature to be attracted to childrenIf go out of your way to fap to depicted child porn (loli) then you are a pedophile or a closed pedophile (which is still a pedophile). Like many have said in this very thread if you look at gay porn exclusively then you are gay.
>>694369728Not only artists, game developers, writers, fuckers making videos on youtube and streamers, there is a reason they have to censor a laundry list of terms when posting even on their personal twitter accounts, the internet has become a souless and sanitized corpo hellscape and we have not even seen the worst of it yet.
>>694369812What does that post have to do with anything? Are you going to tell me because your ambiguous example exists that there are no pornographic images of drawn children? Don't be stupid. Like I keep saying, you masturbate to drawn children? You're a pedophile. I'm going to guess you're the same kind of faggot who thinks fapping to traps isn't gay.
>>694369775I'm defending drawings though. And I'm not defending those groups. I'm simply explaining shit that should be common knowledge but none of you that parrot psych terms actually know about them.
>>694368809small chance of new burger government regulations next year (though it only sounds like protecting Crypto)or the Japanese get together to painstakingly read through the laws of each country, outright block them from storefronts, then approach the payment processors with all their work to void them of legal repercussion from said countries
>>694369817>what is this uncommon disorderYou know you're doing the same thing as the trannies when they bring up chromosome disorders.
>>694369859>Yep, it these there is proof of this just by looking at other degenerates>When something is normalized people will start to be comfortable with that thing and then they will seek it out that's why furries rape their pets and why loli might rape a child or sibling.
>>694361757Payment processors and by extension corporations in general shouldn't be the arbiters or morality or what constitutes appropriate media.
>>694361757>Banking sector boomers deciding what people are allowed to do is good, actuallyRetard alert, people themselves should decide what their hard earned money can be spent on and no one else.None of these companies have a problem with you buying cigarettes, alcohol, jewish porn industry subscriptions, stock market diamond mining scam companies or the worst one which is letting clearly drunk people spend thousands on slot machines online.No none of that gets removed, its just crypto (one form of gambling) and smaller adult content creator circles that get fucked for no reason when morally speaking both of these are several times less exploitative and bad than the infinite loss generation machines known as casinos and bet takers.Yoko Taro remains a king.
>>694369650>Just watch porn, chudI would if Pornhub wasn't blocked in my state, guy. Living in Indiana is suffering sometimes.
>>694369913No really, are you an amnesiac?
I love Yoko Taro slopNot knowing how the plot will go to shit is so fun
>>694361757YokoTaro: {{((((((((THEY))))))))))}}
>>694370063Your ambiguous example doesn't "contradict" anything I said. It is an ambiguous example. There's plenty of drawn child porn that is explicitly child porn. Again, Quizlax and Shadman are two perfect examples of this. Even if that didn't exist however, you still get your rocks off to drawings of children. You're a pedophile. This isn't an argument, you can keep trying to justify it, but the facts are the facts.
Can't wait for the Yoko Taro and Kanye collab.
>>694369113Jesuits are just jews under a different hat
>>694369960your whole argument is that "kids can't have boobs at all", even if it is uncommon it's still a thing that happensand that's not mentioning the more obvious earlier onset of puberty which ends up in very early breast growth too
>>694369781This is a thread discussing the arbitrary denial of payment processing services for artists and purchasers of content which is not illegal. They shouldn't be doing that. They didn't used to.The truth is that regardless of whether you believe that engaging with such content makes a person a pedophile, if there is no criminal aspect, it doesn't matter from a legal perspective and the content and the freedom of conscience to engage with it are both constitutionally protected in the United States.If someone is not actually harming children or creating demand for children to be put to harm, what exactly is the purpose of complaining?I have no stake in this as a consumer of this material. I am not one. But I do fully support the rights of the people who are, because their rights being abridged is a basis on which more people's rights can also be abridged on similar logic, and I absolutely cannot support that.
>>694369171Because there is a chance of escalation. like ALL softcore verison of real porn.>Lolis will eventually will become a pedophile>Furries will eventually will become a animal fucker
>>694362052Post nose.
okay man fuck it i'll get a JCB card, i like japan anyway and jewish payment processors can get fucked>"JCB cards are not available in your region, would you be interested in american express?"AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHTHEY RIGGED EVERYTHING HOW THE FUCK DID GOVERNMENTS LET THIS HAPPEN
>>694370203The thread can be about that, all I ever said is that drawn child porn is child porn, and that fapping to drawings of children makes you a pedophile.It's really that simple.
>>694370213see >>694369962
>>694361757based yoko taro
i don't get what ironics are so scared of, there's nothing wrong with being a pedodid too much mediababble do this to their mindsets?
>>694361757And you'll never GUESS who's behind it!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHVJjKp-4Ms
>>694370197>men can be women even it if's uncommon, it's still a thing that happens
>>694370062based Hoosier friend
>>694370161>if I repeat that this anon is a pedophile enough times is bound to become trueModern day psychiatry already says you are wrong so idk why this other retard anon keeps giving you (you's) but I will give you one instead so you can go back to your christcuck cult before trump fails to protect your children from trooning out (again),
>>694370213>leaves out rape>leaves out "jailbait" because it's the most common real porn tag So you really do believe that all women want to be raped.
>>694369859>but there is some proof in this seeing how retards on this site are turbo virgins and they use goofy meme terms like 3DPD unironically.The only thing that can be conclusively pointed to as a deterrent for guys to chase after women is the landscape for dating becoming complete shit. After e-dating exploding, so did women's expatiations of men as well as the number of guys not in a relationship. Lewd media predates that shit by decades.
>too stubborn to admit his point is flawedi have such a bad habit of putting up with disingenuous retards every day
>>694369962>Facebook imageReally?
>>694370336'sup, my nig.
Why are you so afraid of >>>/pol/?
>>694370237Since you're actively engaging a website that actively distributes such material I guess that'd make you an honorary pedophile then.
>>694370358>Modern day psychiatryIt is funny how they quote and dick ride the DSM until you point out that the DSM-V makes a distinction for drawings/cartoons/fantasy.
>>694370358Again, if you masturbate to drawings of men, you're a faggot, if you masturbate to drawings of children you're a pedophile. You don't get to choose how other people judge you anon, your actions speak for themselves. At least if you were fapping to someone like Asuka you could argue it's not obviously a child. >>694370483No, I'm not here for tranime slop.
>>694370161No, seriously, why are you this awful at following a reply chain?
>>694370404>WhataboutthismYeah, about those other shitty things?
>>694370457>recognizes the familiar filename (says more about him) as a way to not prove evidencehow can i tell that you're insecure about your beliefs
>>694370549>if you masturbate to drawings of children you're a pedophile.Psychology says no. You can't use the word pedophile if you can't agree with the people who give the term the meaning.
>>694362052>If it bothers you make your own credit card company...and then got stopped by the government
>>694369728>all that How come they're not going for violent video games yet? is it because there's lobby groups for those but not for niche fetish shit? It all goes back to the money, i don't know why people think this is related to anything else. These same payment services probably facilitate the selling of terabytes of CP daily, a ton of really expensive sofas and chairs and whatnot get sold every day.>>694369859>This has nothing to do with loli or anythingIt has to do with the mechanism you claim exists, aka slippery slope.>this is random but there is some proof in this seeing how retards on this site are turbo virgins and they use goofy meme terms like 3DPD unironicallyAnd femcels use terms like scrotes unironically, so let's ban and burn books because the femcels surely flicked their beans to 50 shades and we can't have that much freedom because of a couple of retards.>Yep, it these there is proof of this just by looking at other degenerates like furriesFurries are zoophiles to begin with, that's why they dress like animals. There's no proof that you can make somebody want to fuck a horse if you dress them up as a horse for long enough periods of time.>I don't agree to anything and loli doesn't make kids safer.Well then you're in the other camp and believe that media doesn't affect people because showing drawn images of naked children doesn't make normal people want to have sex with them. You can't have it both ways, either media affects people so you can steer sexual attraction via changing arousal cues or you cannot. If you can't, then the slippery slope you talk about is a fallacy, which it is>When something is normalized people will start to be comfortable Okay, then explain why people aren't gunning each other in the streets right now? Call of Duty and CStrike are very popular.>If go out of your wayNon sequitur, we are talking about slippery slope not pedophiles, you forgot your argument and we're going back to worthless virtue signaling.
>>694367385probably because it's a fucking absurdity
>>694370549Does that mean you are gay if you jerk off to straight porn? Alot of instances it has sweaty mascular man with big cock.
>>694370584It's not "whatabouttism" when you're saying ALL things do X.I don't see women out begging to be raped.I don't see every man and woman out fucking jailbait at alarming rates that match the viewership of the media.
>>694370213There's very little evidence that that happens. Most of the people who get pointed to in both cases are people who were already having abusive fantasies before they found those communities and continued to be dysfunctional people going forward. The overwhelming majority of both communities reject these people and do not want them sharing their websites and events.Every sexual abuser of animals who gets caught doing unconscionable things to animals has displayed a long history of harmful behavior to animals predating their sexual crimes. And real pederasts who get caught are much more likely to actively disparage loli or shotacon content than they are to partake of it.And in any case, it doesn't matter because we're not policing character. If someone has intense gripping fantasies of harming children and never acts on them, that's just as acceptable as never having them at all. It's the acts which are criminal and punishable. This isn't Minority Report and we're not going to hold crimes that probably aren't even going to be committed against people. That's not how things work in the United States.
>>694370596pedophile literally just means "child love" and is distinct from the globohomo-funded "disorder"
>>694370579Why are you getting upset by the statement "fapping to drawings of children makes you a pedophile"?To most people that isn't a controversial statement, it's just obvious. Like saying water is wet. >>694370596>psychology Replication crisis shows that they are wrong more than half the time. They'd actually be more accurate if they just made random guesses. Of course you need "psychology" to justify homosexuality as well. >>694370640If you're getting off to the guy, yeah you're gay. Most guys self insert, or at least try to imagine how good it feels.
>>694370687And both are not about drawings and things that are not real.
This is either a underage b& soiteen or a really autistic femoid.
>>694368973My point is that there is no clear cut definition of what counts as a "child" when it's just a drawing, since you can find countless "grey areas" and is therefore left largely to the flawed judgement of those that apply the laws (leading for example to the "it's not a child if it's in a wedding dress" thing from earlier).This makes any law about them either unenforceable or incredibly abusable.
>>694370720Lmao self insert. If you watch yuri or lesbian porn, you are a tranny, got it.
>>694370549You're actively engaging with a website that actively distributes such material. It does not matter if you're here for it or not, you're downright endorsing it by participating with the community. If you consider what I am posting to be of such material as one of the worst offenses a human can make, then why are you here participating in it?
>>694370720>Replication crisis shows that they are wrong more than half the time.You can't dick ride them when want to label things pedophilia and then decide to give them the middle finger when they say shit you don't want.
>>694369505>they're just sadistsThis is the argument of the future
>>694370796You can fuck something without having a real attraction to it.
>>694370720>Why are you getting upset by the statement "fapping to drawings of children makes you a pedophile"?Nothing in my posts ever complained about that. I just pointed out you straight up don't even understand what the reply chain you're trying snipe some replies into is about. You're a bonafide schizo, man.
>>694370753And you are a pedophile, you get off to drawings of children. There isn't an argument here, I am simply repeating fact and you seethe when I do for some reason. >>694370758So? There's plenty of examples of characters who are explicitly children, defined by the artist to be children, drawn to evoke the essence of a child. And a subset of those drawings are pornographic. You fap to those, hence you're a pedophile. >>694370790You're free to think that, it doesn't change the fat you masturbate to drawn children. >>694370792Where did I ever dick ride that failed "science"? Psychology is trash. Pedophiles have existed thousands of years before psychology was even a word in the dictionary. >>694370837You don't need to complain about it. You are reply to me incessantly even though I am just making the same statement over and over. You treat this like it is an argument when I am just rephrasing exactly what I said the last 20 posts in a row.
>>694370729please tell what those drawings are based off of (hint: look at the amount of artists who have traced real child models)please tell me the origins of the phrase (hint: from real ass child model magazines)please tell me how the phrase loli and lolicon is still used today (hint: for real ass idols)the problem is that you think there's something bad about this and that results in this cope
>>694370790I always wonder why straight up creepy stuff like Cuties or Lolita novel got made and are legal. It was never about children, no one actually care about children. This looks more like a cultural invasion, forcing to Jap to live and think the way they don't want to. The only result of this shitshow is in-land banks and transaction service grow bigger meanwhile Paypal and other Burger services got mopped.
>>694369505You aren't completely wrong, but that is like saying anyione that doesn't have a rape fetish can't be a rapist.
>>694362052>It’s not censorship because it’s not the government doing itAmerican Moment>>694367385Burgers that believe their retarded Free Speech system is the system that the rest of the world uses
What an insightful thread about video games.
>>694361757>hehe, fuck the diddlers amirite>suddenly every ghibli movie counts as cp according to visa since they depict children, oops>NOOO NOT LIKE THAT
>>694370914>You are reply to me Proof read your posts more
>>694361757>uncgo back
>>694370964>This looks more like a cultural invasionMental Colonization basically
>>694370964>It was never about childrenthey're beginning to know
>>694370964Netflix is forcing Japanese studios to massively censor themselves, even adult cleavage is banned, then they turn around and make Big Mouth where they show a 12 year old’s vaginaRules for thee but not for heebs
>>694370753Or it's a real pedophile. That's usually how this goes.>>694369505>>694370836>>694370796Their feelings don't matter and shouldn't. What matters is whether harm is caused. If they harm a child in a sexual manner, they are pederasts regardless of why they're doing it, in addition to being sexual abusers of adults in that case.Promoting the portrayal of the law as though it polices intent rather than actions is how they try to absolve themselves in a moral sense of wrongdoing in a wide range of cases and levels of severity.I would suggest that this mindset is what has induced a significant number of powerful people into behaving in markedly antisocial ways.
>>694371040do you often get mad at your own imagination?
>>694371041Why? I'm literally just rephrashing the same statement over and over. I'm putting minimal effort into this. All I need to do is write "Masturbating to drawn children makes you a pedophile" and you ironic lolicons keep replying to me with unhinged mental gymnastics.Do what >>694370948 said and own up to it. You're on 4chan. You could have just posted "yes" to my statemetnt with a chad face and you'd have won. But instead you keep trying to go "WELL ACKSHULLY" and explain how pixels on a screen aren't really children so it's not pedo or something.
>>694371081No one is talking about law.
>>694371141Shalom
>>694370914>So? There's plenty of examples of characters who are explicitly children, defined by the artist to be children, drawn to evoke the essence of a child.>"Oh, you honor, yes, in the original material this character is a child, but my doujin happens after a time skip where they remained looking the exact same."Again, I'm trying to explain to you that this is a flawed argument
>>694361757>sarcastic OPIt's OK. I know you have no self-esteem but you can start a normal thread. Nobody will get mad at you.
>>694370914>Where did I ever dick ride that failed "science"? Psychology is trash. Pedophiles have existed thousands of years before psychology was even a word in the dictionary.And it didn't mean what you are using it for now.
>>694371245It's not an argument, it's a statement. If you fap to children, even drawn children, you are a pedophile. There isn't anything to argue here. The sky is blue, water is wet, men and women make babies.
>>694371081>If they harm a child in a sexual manner, they are pederasts regardless>Etymology: Borrowed from French pédéraste, from Ancient Greek παιδεραστής (paiderastḗs, “lover of boys”)??? i don't get it
>>694370914>you're free to think thatReally limp wristed of you who think what I am posting is CP but refuse to engage with my question as to why you're actively participating in a website that freely distributes such material. Unless you think CP isn't a big deal and not one of the worst sins a human can commit, right?
>>694370948Anyone can draw a woman got beheaded. That does not mean you become a freak for watching such drawing, retard. Or the artist had to watch snuff film to get the reference. Human mind is a dark place.
>>694371283Psychology is when you come up with arbitrary definitions for vague sets of behaviors and make it a codified diagnosis that you can now apply to someone to get insurance money.
>>694370948>>694371154>>694371292
>>694371335You're not even posting loli. Not sure what your images have to do with anything I'm saying.Being attracted to children, even as drawings, makes you a pedo.Being attracted to men, even as drawings, makes you a faggot.
>>694371292So does that mean Nabokov is a pedo?
>>694371074They're shifting to a paradigm where content is policed for intent rather than for its intrinsic qualities, because it makes people who make prolific use of jargon and post-hoc justifications (themselves) unassailable. And it keeps the people they want to exploit (minorities) from believing in a common standard of polite and responsible civil conduct for mutual benefit and peership.>>694371189There's no point in having a discussion about this that doesn't involve the law.>>694371307There's a formal distinction between the inclination and the act itself, and those are the words they chose to project that distinction.
I love watching pedophiles try to justify themselves
>>694371398No, because Lolita is pubescent. That's hebephilia.
>>694366304didn't the canadian government freeze the bank accounts of protesting rail road workers?
>>694371336>the artist had to watch snuff film to get the referencethe problem here is that japan had very easy access to child porn until a decade ago
>>694371398you cant be this fucking stupid, I refuse to believe that you're that fucking dumb, sorry.
>>694371385Is this a child?
>>694371434Dolores is 12 years old aka a kid.
>>694371494>Hebephilia is the strong, persistent sexual interest by adults in pubescent children who are in early adolescence, typically ages 11–14He's correct.
>>694371480>breastsWhat part of "pre-pubescent" do you not understand? >>694371494Many kids are also in puberty. In fact most kids are in puberty.
>>694371475The entire book is literally a rambling made by the pedo protagonist, especially on how much he enjoys doing it to a child.
>>69437149412 year old is preteen agethough i still consider it a child because it's in my age range personally
>>694363049rape doesn't go reported in japan nor do sexual offences against children
>>694371542yes and the author literally wanted you to hate them you mouth breathing retard
>>694366204>So the same should be true for loli and other degen shit.I like rape manga from pov of the rapist and roleplayed rape with my gf.I would never rape anyone for real, real rapists should be lined against the wall.
>>694371468And Toriko's author is a pedo. Yet he draws shounen full of muscular men. Or Rurounin Kenshi's author trying to have sex with a 14 years old.
>>694371582stop trying to justify pedophilia
>>694371540Oh, so is this one?
>>694371398He literally put loli in the title
>>694371336Yes if you constantly look at and jerk off to it.
>>694371385>not even posting loli>Jack the Ripper>not a loli>still avoiding Why are you actively participating in a CP website, pedo-kun?
>>694363490Would you rather have pedophiles lusting over cartoon children (no one got hurt in the making of these) while consuming cartoon porn or lusting over real children and cheese pizza (real children get hurt in the making of it)? That's what i thought
>>694371475Seething is not a valid argument.
>>694371621Yes, that age unknown hag is a prepubescent child. Therefore finding it erotic is pedophilic .>>694371690You aren't a pedophile, you don't find prepubescence arousing, as evidenced by your posts.
>>694371576Ah yes, you are supposed to hate it even though the author describe it in a conventional sexual way and you are supposed to look at this story from the protagonist' POV.
For me, it's ロリ巨乳
>>694371690Nigga, Loli is banned on this site outside of a few select boards. The website's own creator said "fuck you" to you freaks.
>>694371780And is this 3 year old a child?
>>694371821No, that is a pubescent female.
>>694362052STFU idiotic rat
>>694371591what fucking point is this? you can still do all of that and have children as another interestthere are exclusive and non-exclusive pedos>>694371760>(real children get hurt in the making of itonce again, stop with this meme, most of it is self-made by the childare they self-harming if that's the case? stop using distorted phrases
>>694371760What? Loli creates pedophiles though. Weird argument.
>>694371806>Nigga, Loli is banned on this site outside of a few select boards.Loli PORN. Read the site rule you're tying to cite.
>>694371797>>694371773>pedophiles are retardedIm shocked
>>694365762Impeccable taste anonI just have mine shipped from japan
>>694371864No it doesn't.
>>694368695>He got brainwashed into becoming a christian white supremacist.What's wrong and where's the brainwash in that, communist? You are just a fucking hateful racist idiot
it's ok to fap to drawings.
this is why you should've gotten into crypto
>>694371834>>694371780So what about females that have gone through puberty but still look childlike?
>>694371884>the twintails one10/10 kino
>>694371879If you're projecting your made up headcanon onto this book, then how about just projecting your hallucinations onto all other lolicon stuff? All lolicon authors secretly want you to hate the protags. Done, no more need for your sperging, right?
>>694363490Retard
>>694371919They aren't prepubescent. You can tell, even with women who have penal gland disorders that make their puberty weak.
>>694371965>You can tell,There's a JAV chick I could post that you can't tell.
>>694371834What about this then?
>>694371879>Durrhurr 2D drawing bad>But a novel with 3 times the degeneracy goodYou fags literally just trying to throw shit at people and hope no one finds out about your own dark side.
>>694371965>penal gland
>>694371821No, that is a woman who is a fictional race that ages really fast.
>>694371806>Loli is banned on this site hahahahaahahhaah 4chudsDOTorg is a loli website retard.
>>694371619how is that justifying pedophilia? he's simply stating he isn't a rapist, just enjoys the fantasy of it.
>>694372013Child bearing hips, pubescent. >>694372024Thanks Freud
>>694371872lmao, hat is a flat out lie
now that i've been enlightened, it's so funny to see how much mental gymnastics i was doing when i had this ironic mindset, just posting random shit designs and hoping they stick
>>694370358he's right, drawings or not, it turns you on, you are a pedophile and need to die ASAP
>>694372093Now you are free anon. You can fap without the anxiety.
>>694371919I have seen some people online argue that anyone that decide to be their boyfriend is a pedo.Apparently these women don't deserve love.
>>694371872What does that have to do with what I said?>>694372027No rebuttal.
Nu-lrd and his "ironics" is getting old
>>694372119Seeing men gets beaten and tortured turns me on.
It's a good thing that japanese are becoming more aware of how the west is trying to infiltrate and control their artistic output. I wouldn't want japan to become just as creatively dead and in this weird state of neurotic self-censorship that we are in.
>>694372131>What does that have to do with what I said?Because it shows that loli itself isn't banned site wide. Only porn. That's not what you were trying to say was the case.
>>694363490Yuri only appeals to straight men. Lesbians are a myth.
>>694371571>they're just a shithole country with institutionalized rape, there's no fucking way they have lower rapes than we do!>he cannot imagine a country more civilized than his ownIs this what they call western chauvinism? Yes bruv, they have lower rape statistics because all that shit goes into the fiction instead of reality. You thought that because you don't have open air stores which sell porn on the street that you're somehow better or more civilized. WIth one half of a mouth you claim you're better while with the other you bitch about high rates of pedophilia in the church and school system, when you don't conveniently forget those that is. You're the shithole now, not even in russia do they jail people for shitposting on social media as much as in the UK where it's like thousands per year.I'm sort of juggling the premise that this is just projection on part of women who don't cool off after they orgasm and only get more and more horny. Dudes just cum and then they don't care about it for the next week or two or three. Women just keep going with back to back orgasms.
if you capitalize every word in a sentence you are a faggot
>>694361757ENTER
>>694372209The japanese are cuckolds. They bow to wokeness, import pajeets and give their women power
Rules for Radicals. A leftist will always accuse you of what it is guilty of.
>>694372229>that imageI wanna add this one too.
>>694365129No it doesn't do you know what a fucking loli is?
>>694371780>over the age of 10 is not a loliI didn't expect you to be such a cunnysseur. I kneel.
>>694372290Because of your influence.
>>694372210>Literally making shit upYeah, loli threads don't get deleted if you make a loli thread on here. yeah... let's ignore all gachaslop loli threads that have been deleted by the mods and jannies.
>>694371806actually, this entire website was founded because a certain forum wouldn't let people discuss anime and including loli/l/ was removed because he didn't have to power to moderate it alone, unlike the current situation of several alphabet agencies living in the neighborhood of /b/
>>694372181Is that why you are /here/?
>>694372304Do you?
>>694362414Gab censors all porn.
>>694361757I want to let you know that I've spent at least $2k on what you call cartoon cp.
>>694372317>gachaslopOf course you're a schizo.
>>694364989I was in Japan a few months back and Okubo park was surrounded by young girls waiting for custom.I watched a man in his 70s walk into a 7/11 with a girl wearing a school uniform, buy two bottles of water, and head straight to a love hotel for some quality grandad-grandaughter bonding time.If I wasn't with my girlfriend, I might have been her round 2.
This thread is probably going to be pruned soon but-How is loli different than any other particularly "inherently harmful" fetish?Compare it to rape/snuff/guro/whatever.Its pretty widely surmised that rape is one of most common fetishes. Yet, this doesn't inspire the vast majority (likely 99.9999%) with the fetish to rape or go get raped. In fact, if such a thing were to occur in real life, they would be traumatized by how much they disliked it. So clearly, there is a strong disconnect between fantasy and reality. I find it hard to believe that this fetish for loli is especially different in terms of causing IRL harm.
>>694362052>If it bothers you make your own credit card company
>>694372445You're right but people let their feelings for "icky!" things take over any logic.
>>694365129it's normal to find preadolescents attractive too, and healthy since kids need self-esteem for their appearance
>>694364595how about SubStar?
>>694371571Sung saar please do the gookful
>>694372330No, he deleted /l/ because he got tired of appealing to lolicucks. There is an image of it somewhere. Now noticed how the loli website deleted a loli board and never brought it back?
>>694369191Thats a woman.
>>694364989Idk probably irl its still around but the series stopped in the 2000s or somethingNo im not talking about ben 10
>>694372560He deleted it because people would post real child porn there and he got tired of dealing with it on /l/ and /b/.
Loli is important, for the simple reason of filtering out a certain type of personality. You're seeing them in this thread.
Daily reminder to bully shartyteens for being stupid niggers who can't tell the difference between fiction and reality
>>694371591>And Toriko's author is a pedo.Is he? I thought his issue was trying to have sex with a proustite that lied about her age?
>>694365762>off model
you dont get to dictate japanese culture and media if you're white, sorry. Your puritan localizer garbage isnt welcome on this site
>>694369930>expecting trump to ever follow through his words
>>694372663What does 'puritan' mean?
>>694372634>shartyCasual reminderhttps://files.catbox.moe/6iulko.mp4
>>694362052This is the same argument as you still having gun rights when literally every private business including your apartment landlord doesn't allow guns on their property.If private businesses are allowed to take away your right to something, then it's not a right anymore, it's a privilege doled out at their leisure.And that is unconstitutional.
>>694371571imagine the unreported rapes in western countries
To own debit/credit card, in most cases, you need to be adult already. Why companies want to prevent me from being honest customer and paying for my porn? Honest question.
Cardless society is exactly what they want for this reason.First its the porn, then the music, then films, books, and lastly its the food.
>>694359083Woah, why is this loli thread up???
>>694372698Based Gen ALPHA dabbing on the millennials and zoomers
>>694372445only smart post ITT
>>694362823>Why can't they just trick the system by using credit cards to buy funbucks on the site which then can be exchanged for adult games like Steam does?They do, but it's still a huge blow to their bottom line. Also, major storefronts are starting to not let you buy funbux with Visa or Mastercard because they're leaning on the stores now.By the way, this is about more than cunny drawings. AV company homepages with online stores are saying they can't conduct Visa/Mastercard transactions either. There's a specific agenda to fuck with adult material made and sold in Japan.
If I write "fuck children up the ass", is that written CP?
>>694372704Umm sir this is a wendys
>>694361757>IF YOU DRAW SOMETHING YOU GO TO JAILok mohamad
>>694372620If true that just tells you something about lolicons.>>694372727DoA threads get deleted all the time.>>694372445Rapeshit is bad but comparing it to loli which something that is has more depth than rape is stupid in my opinion. Loli isn't an action like rape is, it's a likeness.
>>694361757>uncWtf is this
>>694372295>the japanese figured out western imperialism is using think of the children and women to worm their way into creating a beachhead inside their cultureYeah, they've been trying with CRT and wokeshit as well. Same with the yasuke shit trying to create the myth of japanese having slavery.
>>694372647The problem is how actually did it. If he just bought some CDs then it is whatever, but doing the deed to a kid then said " i-i-i dun know she was underaged" sounds like a huge copout.
>>694361757You shortsighted dumb nigger.>Card companies learn they can cut people off buying things>Countries and banks trying to move away from cash entirely>Card companies lock down whatever retailer they dont like on "totally legitimate" concerns from trannies on twitter>People cant buy food because the super market had a dirty magazine on the shelves
>>694372946>If true that just tells you something about lolicons.Has nothing to do with lolicons. People will post CP wherever they think they can get away with it. Like Twatter>isn't an action like rapeYou're retarded.
>>694373025I always find this whole Yasuke shit to be suspicious as fuck. Is this nigga even real?
>>694372445>How is loli different than any other particularly "inherently harmful" fetish?My pet theory is that loli for the most part is just projection of the need/want to have children for lonely men. In non-feminist countries or countries in which feminism isn't heavily sponsored, women of age actually fantasize about having sons. So while you have actual pedophiles who are attracted to children, most of the audience is made out of men who use the media as a form of surrogate children. The digital equivalent of furbabies for women.
Is loli hentai as bad as cp?No. Loli hentai is better.I've seen both
>>694373072>wherever they think they can get away with itor they can just use it as a weapon to spite and potentially take down any non mainstream website, which actual law enforcement do too
>>694373025I don’t think attempts for the west to infiltrate Japan will ever work because Japan’s culture itself is having an influence on the younger western generation.Not to mention that Japanese artists/creators are completely aware of the attempts to infiltrate and are quick to shut them down before they get a foothold.
>>694373172That's a very good point.
>>694373072There is no "real CP" on 4chan or twitter. Real child porn is like a super premiun illegal product that only the most wealthy millionaire have access to.
>>694364465The entire US banking system has blacklisted the Gab owner and his entire extended family and descendants into perpetuityHe and his family LITERALLY cannot use the ENTIRE banking system ANYWHERE in the US.It was a massive show of force and example-making that honestly deserved a more violent response than anything else in this political shitshow of a decade. They can just make it literally impossible for you to exist in this country, extralegally and no one batted an eyelash.
>>694373114>I always find this whole Yasuke shit to be suspicious as fuck. Is this nigga even real?He was real, and basically a mascot/slave to a warlord who thought animal-looking people were fucking hilarious.But all the other bullshit about him was cooked up by some jewish professor who wanted to sell his Yasuke fanfic book, wrote most of the Yasuke wikipedia article himself too.
>>694373156i like both
>>694373029Teenagers lying about their age to guys that are trying to get in their pants is a bit more common than you would think.
>>694373202lolI remember seeing a guy on b post a photo of i assume his daughters pussy
>>694373143Lets be real, loli only appealing is because it is anime. Alot of " incel " wank to anime drawing of 40 years old women but actual 40 years old women repulse them.
>>694373114He's real. Documents of him and was with Nobunaga, but everything more graceful than that is literal fiction. The most pervading evidence of all the shit Yasuke "did" was from a non asian(?) author who got exposed to making everything up. It was a huge scandal.
>>694363490A real lolicon would murder the fuck out of an actual 3DPD kiddy diddler.
>>694373303>Lets be real, loli only appealing is because it is anime.Yeah, neoteny thing is real, like puppies.
>>694373294>Believing anything on 4chanActual tourist. I'm trans btw.
>>694361757Why Does He Talk Like This?
>>694373308>>694373248Don't forget he was trying to claim that Japan was somehow part of the transatlantic african slave trade. So they could do more of >>694373025
>>694373114Yes, he was real. Nobunaga bought a black slave off the Portuguese because he’d never seen a black person before, so he made him one of his retainers as a status symbol. He wasn’t a samurai per say, but he was armed, so that’s where the romanticised depiction of him comes from.
>>694373253after looking through a lot of stuff it made me realise that camera quality, angles and lighting matter a lot
>>694372445Same logic as a million murders in video games being fine but a nipple slip is too much and gets censored
>>694373269Honestly, this is why America is backwards with its belief that 18 should be the age of consent. Literally every European country has its age of consent below 18 to account for teen horniness.
>>694373368no, real lolicons would certainly be those "diddlers" if there wasn't the massive stigma and taboos therestop lying to yourself
>>694373385It's an article title
>>694373383the post didnt say anything but its pretty clear from the photo that it was someone very young
>>694367052Anyone who says this type of shit needs to submit to a deep hard drive scan. Prove your virtue, because everyone fucking knows sodomites like troons and fags are the biggest pedos/kiddy fiddlers around.
>>694373574Or, you know, the law. You really think a basement dweller is some kind of criminal mastermind, or willing to go to jail for life when he could just sit in the basement jacking to 2D?
>>694373567>with its belief that 18 should be the age of consent.Most stats are at 16 and 17
>>694373202cp is pretty easy to find if you know what to look for, its just hard to initially figure out what you need to searchit is true that 4chan doesnt really have much, twitter idk
>>694373665he could be sitting there jacking off to 3d
>>694373574I think at most, they would just pursue committed relationships with younger girls.They wouldn’t be like the degenerate celebs that run child sex rings and murder the children after they’re done with them.
>>694373728>I think at most, they would just pursue committed relationships with younger girls.You're about to get intense seethe over this
>>694373720Then he wouldn't be a "real lolicon" now would he.
>>694370161>Quizlax and ShadmanQuizlax never drew cp, some idiot claimed to had use his h-manga as inspiration to commit the rape he clearly already was planning which discouraged Quizlax from making anymore stories like that.Only 3 of the loli images shadman drew would count as illegal because he based those on real girls. loli hillary didn't get him in trouble because that clearly was based on present day hillary made smaller and those 3 images isn't what caused him to go jail, he got a C&D over the x-23 pic, the keemstar's daughter one was literally just a safe for work pic with keem and his daughter wearing maga hats.
>>694373675True, but culturally speaking, there’s a massive push to make aging anyone under 18 frowned upon, and the Overton window keeps moving to the point that some people now consider a 40 year old dating a 20 year old pedophilia.This mindset is starting to take hold in some places in Europe too, albeit not to the same extent.
>>694373728>they would just pursue committed relationships with younger girlsi feel like every man wants to do thisit's why some men ask for girls ages if they think they're too young, they are attracted and want to be in a relationship (that's the nuance) with young girls but can't because of laws ad stuff, has a rather negative consequence
>>694361757How can I get JCB card in EU?
>>694373819That idiocy is coming from the same people who love to age up luz and amity or miorine and suletta because they clearly want to see their loli asses scissor. They're hypocrites simply.
>>694361757At least DLsite bypassed this problem.
>>694371013>Europe>Australia >Free Speech My fucking sides.
>>694372228>Yuri only appeals to straight menWho is going to tell him?
>>694373775i don't think he'd care as long as he gets his nut off
>>694373794>Quizlax never drew cp, some idiot claimed to had use his h-manga as inspirationYou're confusing him with Gomenasai, and the H-manga was Geiger Counter (which was just something that parents should have been teaching their kids about already, not to open the door for any strangers that their parents didn't tell them about before hand.)
>>694369728>Violent material if sex is presentFar cry 3?
My experience is as follows,>lolicon material is extremely easy to avoid>many lolicons get attached to these fictional characters out of circumstance and aren't turned on by the ages>lolicons who get turned on by age are basically pedos waiting to cross over to 3D, but this isn't guaranteed>a lot of antis are actual closet pedos or are connected to and protecting closet pedos>most antis have grown out of weebshit and should move on with their lives>lolicon, no matter how you cut it, are just drawings and aren't CSAM>certifiable pedos wouldn't be able to self-medicate with drawn smut anyway>payment processors are currently realizing a decades-old campaign to fuck with adult material made in Japan for cutting into the profits of the jewish-owned pornography industry (Japan's entertainment too, but they have a growing stake in that)>OP is a lard-ass and a fag
>>694373825The worst part is that the AoC is 14-16 in most places in the world, yet if a man and a girl that young get into a fully consenting relationship, the man is demonised and the girl is seen as a victim despite neither of them doing anything illegal.The pedo moral panic is hitting levels that are beyond parody.
>>694373248>But all the other bullshit about him was cooked up by some jewish professor who wanted to sell his Yasuke fanfic book, wrote most of the Yasuke wikipedia article himself too.iirc he got expelled or fired from the Japanese university for making up history and damaging the image of Japan? There were shows on TV in Japan talking about this guy making the whole thing up.
I've been whacking it to loli porn for nearly 20 years now and I've never spanked the monkey to CP though
>>694361757Aw yeah, japan is finally going extinct, legally too!
>twitter screencap threadwhy is /v/ like this
>>694369758Go away with your vidya, we're discussing /pol/shit here!
>>694373979>unironically uses globohomo-funded phrase "CSAM"disregarded
>>694374007The bizarre thing is how he got away with it for so long. Did none of the other professors actually cross-reference and check the validity of his sources?
>>694374075How is globohomo? It's less vague so people can't roll drawings and stories into it.
>>694374018youre not missing out on much except the initial shock factor imo, hentai is better
>>694374114globohomo for immediately thinking all cp is abuse anyways despite that not being the case most of the time, and those one off cases being greatly exaggeratedsee >>694371853
>>694374107He made TWO books. One he released in Japan was a what if book that said he was just speculating. The one he released in the West he instead said that everything was 100% Factual. The nips never had a reason to check his Western book.
>>694373579You can literally crop random porn films and won't be able to tell. Unlike dick, early 20s vagina doesn't have obvious aging signs.
>>694374169You have a very big hill to fight up to get people to understand what you're trying to get them to understand. It doesn't matter the term used since the whole thing is stigmatized so heavily.
>>694374181i dont think ill be able to convince you but ill tell you this, the appearance of a vagina is different between a child and an adult
>>694362052>just make your own bankkek, are you 12? that nigger Obama invaded 2 countries that refused to bend to central bankand those were countries, if you do that as a private citizen they can do what ever, kill you, jail you for life, confiscate your possessions etc
I come from a big family and have seen little girls naked frequently from changing diapers to kids running around the house or yard naked. It doesn't faze me.Real-life children don't have b-cup breasts or hourglass hips. Most characters I've seen presented as typical lolicon designs do. For that reason, I consider lolicon characters no different than otherwise genetically-blessed midgets playing the part of preteen love interests.Plus, probably 80% of love interests in weebshit are 17 at the oldest drawn like adult supermodels. This doesn't turn people into ephebos or here's or whatever the nomenclature is for that.Pic unrelated. Or maybe related, since Japan has low sex crime stats because they're mostly Japanese (for now).
>>694374258yeah, it's very much not worth it, since people are notoriously stubborn to having an open mind here, even if i were to begin posting sources/evidencei've learned this from other boards too
>>694374007>single-handedly made ubisoft kill themselves>rewarded by getting expelledkinda rude
>>694373882Nope, the (((payment processors))) got wise and blocked the dlpoints stuff as well
>>694374298japan probably under reports sexual crimeperverts on public transport are a part of the culture there
>>694374425>perverts on public transport are a part of the culture therePeople overstate this. And they cite women's only cars on trains but the thing is that it's easier to chalk it up to the governments there being more proactive about nipping things in the bud.
>>694373202...Its very, very easy and free to access on any kind of alt-web source-Darknet (so Tor, I2P, freenet), E2E encrypted chat (Matrix, Signal, etc), even IRC and Usenet channels all have free and high-speed "hubs" of content that get repeatedly shut down and replaced within a day.The reality is that the vast majority of such content is posted "altruistically," in the hopes of growing a platform such that other content will be posted for free, or simply shared without expectation of being repaid. While there is some "rare" content that is hoarded or traded around carefully, its not the norm. Semi-related, most content nowadays is "self-shot" by the child without any prompting of an adult.If you ever are wondering how to frame someone for having this stuff, just know that its unfortunately quite easy to find - and with a little knowledge of digital forensics its also quite easy to make it appear "legitimate" (i.e. not planted) This is why I tend to be skeptical when people get busted with large collections - if they're not hosting a site, there's next to no benefit to downloading anything at all since its all easy to find online. And frankly, most site hosts have enough op-sec that, even if their servers are seized, theres nothing implicating them. The recent takedown operations are good evidence of this - all the sites that were taken down have replacements already, and the few arrests made don't appear to have been anyone close to the "heads of the hydra" so to speak.
>>694373025>webmgod damn is this what's going on in the world? i'm not much into politics but how do they justify themselves? "original sins" sounds like a pretty anti-fairness and anti-justice concept.
>>694361757>I love bigtech deciding what I can and cannot buy
>>694361757America fought a war for independence over tea. Do not underestimate the international coomer.
>>694374553Yes. And it is.
>>694373247wow, im shocked i didnt notice this. First i hear of it too... those kikes are wild.
>>694362052>>694374286https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABdF7dyUIcc
>>694374553>but how do they justify themselves?If you corner them they will admit it's social darwinism might makes right. They just do what they can get away with so that they may survive because they're parasites. The child predator/rapist is mighty when alone with a child or woman but when they're in cuffs being sentenced to life behind bars, they suddenly are taken over by tears and they shrink back. Everybody looks human, it's just that some aren't, and they walk among us daily.
>>694363490>no correlation between what fiction people consume and their daily lives>"aha! See this guy who plays GTA also committed crime! that means GTA causes crime!"in b4 the classic 'uh fantasy sex isn't the same as fantasy violence' retard
>>694362052If monopolies censor it's effectively no different, and that vast majority of people are going to go with whatever is biggest no matter what, this is especially true for the flow of information and if you have a monopoly on that then any free marketplace of ideas you have is one that's shot in the foot, so it would be noble not to censor it, and it's hated for good reason.
>>694374648ehe, now they begin to realize that the Tiananmen Square massacre was china telling the ((())) to fuck off.
>>694363490>Yaoi and Yuri have faggots in their communityWhat? Yaoi is consumed exclusively by straight women. Yuri is 90% straight men and 10% "bi" women.
>>694375014Anon he's clearly mentally retarded. Trying to explain a fujoshi would make his brain explode.
>>694362052>companies having literally more power than governments at this point is le good because its not the government (companies control the goverment too lol)
>>694361757The point is to not give them a foot in the door. Imagine if The Woke™ suddenly decided that you cannot depict LGBT, disabled, ethnic, or female characters as villains? Not "We will scream and shit our pants" but "We will literally prevent you from selling the product".
>>694375014>>694375067He's using a small subset of people to say the whole thing is like that. The same shit that faggots do with games and anime when they want to say they are for trannies even though they make up the smallest number because there is only 0.1% of them in the entire world's population.
>>694373946Law & Order SVU breaks several of those too, and that's broadcast on US television.
>>694362052They killed Gadaffi and destroyed three Arab nations because he wanted to stop using petrodollar and recreate the gold standard.
>>694374283>the appearance of a vagina is different between a child and an adultYou seems to be strangely knowledgable in this shit. Care to explain, hmm?
>>694374512>the governments there being more proactive about nipping things in the budJapanese courts have 99% rates for locking up people. I've been keeping up with the South Korean situation with this Johnny Somali thing and it looks like he'll be spending years behind bars in there due to how the laws function there. It's literally another world and in South Korea you have to prove your innocence instead of the cops having to prove you guilty.So Japan having lower counts of sex crimes make sense, because once you're in the system, you have lower chances of getting out.
>>694375368yeah ive seen cp, and its not really all that great other than the first time shock factormaybe if it was legal and there was full on professional production then it would be better but for now it sucks and i dont care about it reallyloli hentai though is kind of good provided the art is good, do i think it should go away and be made illegal, no because i like it
>>694372445It really is amazing how people will play killing simulators without a second thought because "it's not real" but then will chimp out if someone likes watching naughty drawings because they're "literally children".
>>694375528what the fuck
>>694375423>So Japan having lower counts of sex crimes make sense, because once you're in the system, you have lower chances of getting out.That's true.Meanwhile in most western countries most criminals get out within a short amount of time served. Like the Rotherham grooming gangs. And repeat offenders are high. I guess people just assume that Japan is the same way when it's like you said instead.
>>694375423I think Japanese media usually overstate the crimes, like how many people still bringing up Junko Furuta tragedy and act like Japan is the most dangerous place on earth. I live in South East Asia region and i trust me, "Junko Furuta" happens around here more than you can ever imagined. Everywhere on earth, there are unseen and disturbing evils no one dare to find because it might put their life in danger.
>>694375583why are you surprised retard, did you not see the whole thread
>>694372445it is harmless. Every psychologist to study this comes to the same conclusion. There's literally research papers finding how harmless all sexual fiction is.
>>694375528>full on professional productionthis shit sucks most of the time, homemade is always better just for the sovl imo
>>694375528>Hates lolicon drawings>Watches real children getting raped and abusedHonestly it is not even a surprise anymore.
>>694375636Reproducible studies too, to add before someone brings up the reproduction crisis.
>>694375295I hate the jews
>>694375583nta but sometimes images of naked children are posted on the boards and they're usually cleaned up really quickly by the mods which is good but they're unnerving because it's clearly a child who has been taught to behave in an adult manner. I don't know how the cops who go over this shit when they lock up these freaks go home to their children without getting scarred.
>>694375740>>hates loilcon drawingsaverage ironic iq in play>>Watches real children getting raped and abusedaverage disingenuous herd mentality in play
>>694375816Don't care. You watch real child porn.
>>694375789>it's clearly a child who has been taught to behave in an adult mannerI wonder how that happens. Surely not Television and Movies and Video Games...
>>694375789Yeah it is the same as how 2D gore can be a fetish but actual gore makes you lose sleep.
>>694375789>it's clearly a child who has been taught to behave in an adult mannerthis is a bad thing for some reason? i don't think kids should stay as kids, that will make for some bad growing up>>694375853go back to twitter with these posts and get your bot likes you single celled organism sheep faggot
>>694375895I mean that it's a 5 year old who has been taught to pose like a model by her pimps, that's what makes it unnerving. 5 year olds don't play gta and they don't jack off to bayonetta spreading her legs for the camera.
>>694375583i like your reaction but why are you surprised. also there are non pedophilic reasons also like if you have a daughter or family>>694375726homemade hand shaky cam sucks ass, unless youre talking about pro amateur>>694375740learn to read, also >>694375816 is not me
>>694361757Either outlaw something or don't. What's the point of a credit card if you can't use it to buy things?What a fucking stupid slippery slope.
>>694375636I wouldn't necessarily disagree because I think anything in the realm of fantasy (from drawings to roleplay) is fine, but the psychologists are one of the least reliable sources possible, they're equivalent to lawyers and cops, just reinforcing what is already socially acceptable.
>>694375949>5 year olds don't play gtalol>they don't jack off LOL
some of you people will be surprised to learn that children are not the asexual angels the media suggests them to be lol
>>694375895During my school days back in early 2010s, alot of brats in my class suddenly boasting about their boobs and started using lipstick. Kids, teens and what in between normally curious about feminity, sexual aspect and can be derailed into degeneracy without proper education. This is why alot of people take advantage of these brats because even themselves don't aware of the wrong and exploitation they are being lured into.
>>694375945>this is a bad thing for some reason?Ye, because stealing away children's innocence fucks with their brains in the long term and makes for maladjusted adults. That's why you leave them alone for their own bodies and brains to develop at their own pace. If you look at people as both past and present selves, you begin to look at children as future people instead of only children. If you look at them like that, you cannot justify treating them in a way in which their adult selves wouldn't want to be treated. It's like taking advantage of a passed out woman. Just because she can't fight back doesn't mean you can rape her.
>>694375949>I mean that it's a 5 year old who has been taught to pose like a model by her pimps, that's what makes it unnervingYou're assuming that when the more obvious answer is her mom or dad give her a phone to watch youtube on and she ends up seeing ass shaking music videos. Hell, she probably sees them when her parents watch them because they don't give a shit what their child sees when it comes to that.I worked in a daycare and heard so many kids saying "bussin" because they got it from the music their parents listen to. It's short for busting a nut, it's sexual shit but the parents don't care.
>>694375740>>694375816also the impostor does have a point. it depends on the age range, younger ones probably dont really know whats going on, the older ones probably do, but theres also older ones who do it for the money consensually
>>694371760>no one got hurtdebatable, some artists clearly trace real life kids, those are a tad concerning
>>694362052Who do you think controls your government?
>>694376078>because stealing away children's innocencehate to say it, but "innocence" is just made upkids on farms grow up knowing all about how life is created and it doesn't fuck them up
>>694376117The kid tracing thingy is more like a fear mongering and ragebaiting. Majority of japs use 3D model. It is more flexible and can actually emulate a child by downscaling the female body model.
>>694376063Didn't read the thread but I can personally vouch for this. As someone who was a child, I and many of my friends have tried to peek at teachers' underwear as early as 1st grade.
>>694376078>stealing away children's innocence fucks with their brains-1 for "stealing innocence" but this only occurs in careless situations which have been greatly exaggerated in mainstream depictions. sexual play is also just another way to express love too, and kids also need physical attention a lot more than you think
>>694376117>some artists clearly trace real life kids, those are a tad concerning>oh no, they traced a legal image!it's not concerning at all
>>694376063Anything an adult asks of a child has an inherent element of coercion, that's why it's not allowed.
>>694376265some artists draw quite realistic and they probably do use actual stuff as reference material
>>694376063I mean, I witnessed 6th grade children smoking lmao. Lets not forget how nasty they can be when bullying someone.
>>694376331They don't need to use "actual stuff", there are legal reference books.
>>694376063i as a child also had a fascination with boobs from a very young age
>>694376160Enlighten us
>>694376306kids are mostly little shits that won't even listen to be yelled at to clean up after themselves
100% of the time, its crappy parents' fault.
>>694376448>being yelled
>>694376374>Lets not forget how nasty they can be when bullying someone.funnily enough, this is a result of the so-called "innocence" that people continue to protect
>>694376205>hate to say it, but "innocence" is just made upIt's like giving hard foods to babies who can't chew properly yet. I know that psychologists are slowly creeping up on almost saying that child abuse isn't that bad because the environment dictates how the child registers events that happen to them but some ideas are so idiotic that only an intellectual is capable of believing and thinking them up.The point is that everything has it's own time and place when it must happen, and children aren't ready for that type of content because their brains don't fully develop until much later. The point of shielding children from this type of content is because they don't have the capacity to see the whole spectrum of repercussions and thus cannot fully consent.>>694376258>sexual play is also just another way to express love too,"Love" doesn't exist, sorry. Only copulation exists, because homosexuals and lesbians can also have children despite their "sexual orientations" which are also made up shite don't matter for shit when a spermatozoa meets an ova. "Love" is made up shit and a mating strategy of men who don't have enough appeal to women, so they promise their whole attention to a woman as a means to create value that's missing because they're not superior genetic specimens. That's where "love" came from. You can call "love" the genetic interest which guides protective behaviors of parents but anything else is stretching it for anyone who isn't retarded.
>>694376512People look back at childhood with rose tinted glasses and only remember the good times.They forget about everything else.
>>694376567>It's like giving hard foods to babies who can't chew properly yet.It's nothing like that. You're simply trying to protect your own innocence.
>>694376331>some artists draw quite realistic and they probably do use actual stuff as reference materialWhat kind of dumb logic is this? Artists draw shits that are not real all the time. Do you think Junji Ito had to find photo of a woman with regenerative power when he was designing Tomie?
>>694376448If you have to scream and yell at a child you're doing it wrong.
>>694376636Not all kids are the same. They are little people, not little computers that just need the right inputs.
>>694376567>the "fully developed brain" memebrains keep developed past 18 and 25 by the wayalso if we're going to do this based on brain development, women have lesser developed lobes than men so we shouldn't be fucking them eithersex and consent are not that complex to understand too
>>694376630>It's nothing like thatIt is because for example boys who have sex early with much older women, such as the female pedophiles that currently litter the school system say after growing up that they wished they hadn't had sex with those teachers and that they lost something of themselves for doing so. So grown people regret their early sexual experiences.>>694376723>brains keep developed past 18 and 25 by the wayPrefrontal cortex is fully developed by 25, that's why 15 year olds having sex at that age isn't criminal but a 15 year old with a 25+ year old is.>women have lesser developed lobes than men so we shouldn't be fucking them eitherBut they are fully developed for their gender, so it still counts as full development.
>>694361757>2b>cartoon cpthe fuck wat you mean
>>694376807>say after growing up that they wished they hadn't hadThey say what society expects them to say. When you're told something is bad by everyone, you bow and go along with it.
>>694376723I hate this shit so much and zoomers are fully on it, they unironically consider themselves children until 25, that's why the other "pedo with 21yo girl" meme exists.
>>694376714When i was a teen, i remember getting hard as fuck when girls in my class started to have puberty and their tits getting more visible. People nowadays are using "stay away from kids" as a demoralization to dunk on the opposite political side they hate. No one really care about kids and kids are not gonna grow up normally.
>>694376807>isn't criminal but a 15 year old with a 25+ year old isMarriage is still legal and sex in marriage is legal
>>694376878It's crazy that 13 year olds used to run their own shit but now we're at the point where a 23 year old thinks they need an adult to help them with things. Anything to give the government more control.
>>694376807>fully developed for their genderdoesn't matter, you're still taking advantage of less intelligence minds by this logicplus the sources that said this only had an age range from 4 to 26, nothing above, and the complete development ranges a lot too, not one set age
How does the brain development group rationalize the couple from Sneedville, TN? They married when the girl was like 9 and had a long and happy marriage and the girl turned woman never said anything bad about it.
>>694362052You're such a fucking retard so I choose to believe you're instead just malicious because that would be less disappointing.
It's been a pleasure discussing this with you gentlemen. I'll see you all in another unrelated thread
>>694377237see you later, thanks for atleast being bareable and slightly more civilised than the average channer arguing
>>694376858>They say what society expects them to sayI don't think they give a fuck about society because society also says that a boy having sex with an older woman is fucking awesome. If they had fun and didn't regret it, they wouldn't be feeling remorseful.>>694376892>Marriage is still legal and sex in marriage is legalYes but marriage can only happen in certain circumstances of both sides meeting the right age requirements. The point of waiting until later is to properly give both sides enough time for their brains to fully realize their genetic and mental potential in the interest of enabling them to make the best choice for themselves instead of being herded like animals into the breeding barn as they do in other cultures.The point is quality over quantity, otherwise you cannot have a society with running water and electricity. The sexual development being postponed is directly responsible for technological advancement. It's also eugenic because you're not just handing over young women left and right to any Tom Dick and Harry and by giving the women choice you're also selecting for the male population instead of only one way. The point is that things are the way they are for a reason, and it has more to do with selection instead of cockblocking.>>694377117>doesn't matter,It does matter unless you're suggesting that women should just be herded into breeding barns or something, which is a hot scenario for a doujin but makes for poor long term social policy.>the sources that said this only had an age range from 4 to 26, nothing above, and the complete development ranges a lot tooYes but goodluck having children with older women. People keep forgetting sex is about reproduction first and anything else second or never.
>>694377564>I don't think they give a fuck about society because society also says that a boy having sex with an older woman is fucking awesomeThey don't really. Most of the time people still treat it the same as a girl having sex with an older man. The only time there is a distinction is when someone is making a joke of it. >Yes but marriage can only happen in certain circumstances of both sides meeting the right age requirementsNope, only need parental consent or to be emancipated.>The point isThey are this way because hags were tired of men leaving them for younger girls.Also see >>694377158
>>694377564>People keep forgetting sex is about reproduction first and anything else second or never.And lastly, sex is about pair bonding and THEN reproduction. You don't have to start making babies ASAP.
It's also the reason why marriages don't last anymore, people ruin their pair bonding ability by waiting for so long and having so many relationships because it's what society expects a "normal" person to do.
>>694377713>Most of the time people still treat it the same as a girl having sex with an older manI mean i can pretend you're right if you want.>Nope, only need parental consent or to be emancipated.Okay but we're talking about western societies here, aren't we?>They are this way because hags were tired of men leaving them for younger girls.I don't even disagree with this take because it makes sense however brain development has a much bigger say in it. >Also see >>694377158I've seen the image going around, i can't say anything about it really. It made sense in that time period before women decided that it was preferable to end up alone drinking wine and taking care of cats so i guess it's like a circular thing that comes back when all the crazy cat ladies die off in large enough numbers?>>694377765>sex is about pair bonding and THEN reproduction.Women pairbond through sex but men don't.
>>694376205Fucking die.
>>694378092>pretendI don't have to, it's how it is. Boy still get treated like victims.>Okay but we're talking about western societies here, aren't we?I'm talking about the USofA.>brain developmentWasn't even thought of when this shit was originally done. It's finding a problem to justify a solution made years ago.>that time periodIt wasn't even 100 years ago.>men don't