Why did they draw her like that?
>>694949009>>>/vg/
>>694949009one issue with yellow was having some monsters that are "human but-", like dalv and the flower girls and I guess red (though she is supposed to be a puppet apparently)?
>>694949009anyone tried the new mod yet? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6miSAmtq9gwaiting until someone gives it a try before I try myself
>>694950270what does it change?
>>694951592the trailer shows it but according to the video description:>New sprites, animations and music>Followers can now ACT and provide new buffs in combat>Dalv can now accompany Clover on their journey through Snowdin>You can talk to him in every room for his thoughts, just like with Martlet and Ceroba in the base game>Martlet can also go with Clover through the Dunes from the very start, complete with brand new dialogue and interactions>Hang out with Dalv and Martlet before completing your journey, just like with Papyrus, Undyne and Alphys in Undertale>Huh? Starlo and Axis? Well, maybe next update, ok?>Ok, well, Axis DOES have some new stuff; sorry Starlo fans!>Brand new dialogue in existing scenes>Some bugs fixed that were left from the base game>A new FUN value event>And…>A new secret boss…?seems it might get new content later, just hoping they do kanako closure
>>694954821what's that supposed to mean?
Do you guys think Clover's suicide would have been more well received if it was for the sake of saving Kanako?And for a gut punch, what if in the geno route, Clover took Kanako's soul to pass the barrier instead of Asgore's?
>>694956648>Do you guys think Clover's suicide would have been more well received if it was for the sake of saving Kanako?yes, that's what I wanted anyway even if it isnt "canon", doesn't matter since the entire game is already non canon anyway, they could still have the "go to asgore" ending and have their cake and eat it too, too bad the fandom is thirsty for "pacifist MUST be the golden ending">spoileryes for reasons above
>>694957140How would you feel if flowey was removed from the story?
>>694959331while it would suck to miss out on his interactions since for once he was written well, I think it would be better for the story in the long run because the devs wouldnt be stuck on a single specific series of events since flowey would reset otherwisewhile on it should have made the game happen years before UT instead of just one year earlier, and cut any mentions of alphys, undyne or other UT chars, it really does feel everything is time crunched, like if the steamworks stopped due to the core, it implies the core was built VERY recently when it has signs of decay that would be there for years, the steamworks also show way more signs of decay which makes sense since its older, but not if it was abandoned in such a short termclearly the devs just wrote the story as teens one day and never once thought about changing it (as shown in the later streams when they talk about the plot)I'd rather the devs never have mentioned the timeframe and leave it open to interpretation
>>694959979It would hurt to loose Flowey, but there are probably more improvements to the story overall with him and the other UT characters.They could have the Asgore ending be the neutral one, and pacifist could possibly even break canon like geno already does.
>>694960313yes, and avoids the plot holes flowey's very existence causesa reason why many people avoid UTY is because of those plot holes though honestly I prefer it that way so the fanbase can remain small and not grow to the unmanageable monster UT/DR fandom at large is, no wonder toby rarely posts outside newsletter time anymore
>>694961308I personally don't see the point in getting hang up with plot holes in relation to the canon, it's a fan work anyway.>no wonder toby rarely posts outside newsletter timeroast chicken
>>694961763some people are really anal about canonicity, I know a guy that refuses to play any mod/fangames of anything just because its not endorsed/created by the original creator even if some of those are objectively better than the base game (pokemon, minecraft, etc)
I guess yesterday's autosage killed the morale for UTY fans, plus it's also monday now
>>694963875that and most discussion has dried upwe can only hope the anniversary has something from the devs, or more people try the new mod that came out
>>694954821Sexy.
>>694962179>a guy that refuses to play any mod/fangames of anything just because its not endorsed/created by the original creatorIf you ask me, that's very retarded and autistic(in a bad way.)
>>694965040I doubt they are going back to the game, they really seem they went "let's just get done with this" after the Steamworks.
>>694961763>roast chickenthat was just to attract people to his bluesky account
>>694968912I meant more a q&a or something to at least explain their thought process behind some of the narrative choices
One thing I noticed is that you can feel the devs maturing (both in personality and artistically) as the game goes on>Dark Ruins isn't particularly impressive, follows UT a lot and the antagonist is a brooding loner guy>Snowdin is a very pretty take on the UT original, the antagonist is a young woman struggling with her job>Dunes isn't perfect, but is very well done and the antagonist is a guy dealing with his fantasies vs growing up>Steamworks is amazing and original, clearly was a more original idea by the devs, and the story has an angle of coming to terms with the past specially if Ceroba is aroundThe endings are technically impressive, but clearly show that they were defined early on in development.
>>694971178dunes still feel lackluster, specially oasis townit's been said many times but I think they should have spread the encounter with the feisty five across the dunes instead of all at once in the wild east
>>694949009oh hey look its the monster that made me feel really fucking guilty about doing geno
>>694963875>>694965040>yesterday's thread going well>suddenly, autosage>this thread is dead as fucking shityou dont hate the jannies enough
>>694973284for me it was the teacup bull
DRYanon2 here, trying out stuff for the preview barswhich of these would you say looks better?or should i try something else.
>>694977489the vertical one with 2 sets of numbers look too busyI think the horizontal one is better, you can already infer the hp percentage from the bar
>>694977489top looks better, bottom is less confusing. If you made top a fraction (Hp/Max Hp) it would be less confusing.
>>694978612I think the less numbers you have in the UI the betteralso keeping the bar horizontal will keep it consistent with the big one
>>694977489Definitely bottom. I don't think we need to see everyone's exact Max HP at all times but if we did, the number shouldn't be as prominent as current HP
>>694979928I the contrast with the big bar is what makes it look good.
>>694949279To be fair Undertale had Undyne and she looks pretty much as human as StarloDalv is indeed "too human" tho, wich is a shame for a main cast character
>>694981915undyne has the crooked tooth fangs and she is really thin outside the armor, and she is the most human like of the cast (after papyrus I guess)sure starlo has a star shaped head but a common complaint people had was that the silhouette of most UTY main monsters were too similar to each other (and too general anthro shaped), compared to UT where toriel is a fridge and asgore is fuck huge, alphys is miniscule and mettaton has noodle limbsthe minor monsters were fine though
>>694982959I see the problem (the characters are all a bit "A" shaped, in that that start broad on the bottom and get thinner uniformly as they go up) but I don't see a good solution. Starlo design really is made by that poncho, Martlet's design fits her too perfectly to change, and I don't know how to fix Ceroba without making her too similar to Toriel. That Dalv you showed is an improvement though.
>>694949009>Why did they create an appealing character design instead of multiheaded lovecraftian nightmare crossed with a household object?
>>694984640No you're supposed to say>I wanna fuck the plant lady
I just realized that what made Mettaton so impressive (and what differentiated him from Axis) is that he's a robot with a soul. That implies that robots on their aren't that impressive, and that they probably already exist. Which fits a lot better with UTY's depiction of things.
>>694984640Hearing you describe it that way makes me prefer the second one.
>>694982959This pic made me notice how Martlet and Ceroba have boots, when in Undertale Toriel and Alphys are barefoot, maybe thats another detail that makes them look even more anthropomorphic
>>694977489What this guy said >>694978612The current layout looks clutered with the max and current hp, if you made the numbers smaller and look like fractions maybe it could look better
>>694982959Have you forgotten about her already anon?
>>694959979Haha what if one of her eyes was yellow in this pic
>>694986346I wasn't supposed to reply to that one post
>>694949009Like what?
>>694984772mettaton isn't an actual robot, he is literally a metal suit piloted by a ghost, no different than a doll like the mew mew dollalphys is a fraud>>694986191probably can't make them smaller without breaking pixel perfect-ness
>>694986346Her game is cancelled so yeah
>>694987228Okay, what about this girl then?
I can’t believe how much I let this stupid game hijack my brain for half a year, now I just halfway resent it, these threads, and myself for being so mentally ill. Remember to touch grass and not be a retarded shut in your whole life.
>>694987025I know that. I'm just saying why everyone makes such a big deal about him. They think he's a robot with a soul.As an a side note. I think the reason Asgore was so interested in a robot with a soul is because it could cross the barrier. It takes a human and a monster soul to cross the barrier. If a robot with a soul were to take a human's soul, it could cross the barrier. Meanwhile, a normal robot like Axis couldn't cross the barrier even with a human soul.
>>694987792>Remember to touch grass and not be a retarded shut in your whole life.I can do one of those things, but I'm already locked in to the other one.
>>694977685>>694978612>>694979928>>694980636>>694981160i think what i'll do is go with the bottom and then have max HP show when you go to heal a character. the bottom is just more simplistic, makes it easier to read.do have a few other ideas i might mess with though, have to think about them for a moment. next post will have a few other examples.>>694986191id do fractions but visual clarity is the big thing. on top of that im working with very limited space, pretty much cant make these wider.no plans for five party members at the moment, but im leaving the space for it just incase.
>>694987025>probably can't make them smaller without breaking pixel perfect-nessYou would have to use a different font then, but I guess that could look weird depending on how different it is from the font used on main bar numbers
>>694987918you can do vertical fractions, you know.
>>694987918>no plans for five party members at the moment, but im leaving the space for it just incase.I noticed that there is no darkner party member in DRY2, maybe you could have a really climatic moment where a darkner joins your party for the duration of a single boss fight, you could even give the darkner their own unique buttons just like how humans have soul/act buttons and the monsters have the offensive/defensive magic buttons, the darkner could have a different type of magic buttons
>>694987792>I can’t believe how much I let this stupid game hijack my brain for half a year, now I just halfway resent it, these threads, and myself for being so mentally ill. >Remember to touch grass and not be a retarded shut in your whole life.This game hijacked my brain so hard it got me into game dev, now I'm making an Undertale fangame and I don't have any intention of stopping until it's fully made
>>694987792I can't believe it either. But I love the feel.>>694988516It's a bit funny, isn't it? how games (and gamedevs) can inspire people to become a gamedev too. I'm thinking of getting into gamedev as well.I wish you good luck with your fangame and your projects!
>>694987792don't forget anon, you're here foreverthe longest thing i've ever written was like 5k words and now here i am approaching 150k and it's a fanfic for this fucking fangame
>>694987591>>694986346Who will be the next one to join the pile of dead fluffy girls? I'm betting on that wolf from the cyan fangame
>>694987792Remember to eat the bugs, dumb newfag.
>>694950270i played this, only got to the dalv part but it was fun, its really high quality from what ive seen
>>694986346hope the creator is actually making an original game rather than leaving her to die, I need my fluffy monster gfs
any of these look better? should i mix two of them?>>694988079i know, trying something like that with the 4th one here. the divider bar is the health bar. not exactly a hit id say.
>>694990178>I need my fluffy monster gfsWatch as the first fully finished prequel fangame has a monster BF
>>694990213Have you tried putting the health bar to the right of the numbers? The health bar could work as a divider for the other bars tooIn any case I'd say that the third one, with the grey numbers looks the best, the one with the health bar as the divider is intersting but the health bar would be too small to actually see
>>694990595as long as they're fluffy, I don't have issues with ralsei
>>694990792i'll be adding proper dividers built into the bar once i figure out what it should actually look like.last one i can think of is this, cutting the HP bar entirely and just having HP numbers.
>>694990213Health bar as the divider is bad. Its too hard to see.
>>694990595Please no, we have enough gay shit as is.
>>694991486What about using the desing with the grey numbers and also the hp bar as the divider? Can you make the bar a bit taller to make it easier to see?
>>694991652>Please no, we have enough gay shit as is.Its too late anon, I'm already making my fangame, it won't be a main point of the plot but there will be implications with an anthro monster boyI flipped a coin to decide if the romantic interest should be a boy or a girl, you were pretty close to having another fluffy gf
>>694992147>anotherNigger, we don't even have one.
>>694992312>Nigger, we don't even have one.There are various fangames with fluffy gfs, or at least there were, now its only that cyan fangame and wildfire left I think
>>694992530If they ever get made.
>>694992635Have some faith anon, just because two already died it doesn't mean that those will die tooAfter all, there were so many being made at the same time that atleast one of the has to be finished right?
>>694987812ok for starters isn't it a BOSS monster soul + a human soul to cross the barrier?and putting that aside, what difference would that make from any other monster also crossing the barrier with a human soul, asgore is NOT interested in taking revenge, that's a core aspect of his character, a robot with special capabilities to make the war come faster would not interest him, just terrify him. the only reason he kept the war declaration was to keep the monsters pooling them souls, if he called it off there was a chance a disgruntled citizen would try and take matters into his own hans
>>694993194I suppose instead of whining at other people I should probably be the change I want to see and just get back to work.
>>694993663>isn't it a BOSS monster soul + a human soul to cross the barrier?only due to the fact regular monster souls dissipate instantly when they die, but if they could survive they could be absorbedso if a regular monster did absorb a human soul they could leave
>>694993663>ok for starters isn't it a BOSS monster soul + a human soul to cross the barrier?I'm watching a play through right now, and Alphys just says a monster soul. Its just that the only monster soul you can take is a boss monster's.>asgore is NOT interested in taking revengeHe's just keeping up appearances to keep people happy. So he's constantly turning down offers for help with killing humans because "they aren't good enough", while really he just doesn't want help. Then when someone does show up with something that is undeniably good enough, he's forced to accept it to keep up appearances. The irony being that Alphys didn't want to kill humans either, and just did it because she thought that's what Asgore wanted.
>>694949009My wife.
>>694990595there is a green fangame with a moth boy
>>694996226Which one?
>>694996226Not a fan of his proboscis/beak thing but he looks cute
>>694996454cooking with kindness
Ive been thinking about it a lot. Chujin had "pride" and "ego" but it was more of a self defense reaction. A reaction based on his low self esteem.Imagine you are a chujin ketsekune. You have a loving family, a mansion, and a well paying job. It looks like you have a good life.But looking beyond this superficial view of your life, the cracks emerge.Your father disagreed with your beliefs in progress. And thus probably disagreed with your decision to become a steamwork employee. For your father unlike you never appreciated progress. There was a reason after all why the ketsekunes and dreemurs drifted apart when the steamworks opened. The steamworks which was a symbol of progress.Welp it doesnt matter as long as your achieving your dreams. But it turns out that the job you worked in is hellish. Things like mr screen turn your work environment in a heavily stressful and pressuring place. And things like the you tried award shows that your efforts ended up being mediocre.But all is not yet lost. There is the axis projects. And your superior still believes you are intelligent.Then your axis projects fail. Fail to the point that it burns down the kings garden. Your king, the great ruler of your land, then rejects you. And then your steamworks employers eventually terminate your jobSo now you are jobless. You have spent all your money building that mansion so now there will be financial issues. Your father probably didnt support your career. Your previous efforts before axis ended up being mediocre (you tried award). Your own employers end up firing you. And your own king rejects you.
>>694996892 (part 2)So now you are in your basement. Alone with your thoughts and emotions. Creating grand narratives that you were a victim. That you were being punished for treating things seriously. Taking away the blame from yourself and putting it on others. Not because you are prideful but because your self esteem has gotten so low that you create these grand narratives as a cope.Which is why you refuse to tell ceroba that you lost your job. Because shes one of the few that still believes in you.
>>694996628>female human x monster boyI'm actually ok with this. Still prefer male human x female monster, but this is good too.Also, does this game have a female dev?
>>694996628>Unique gameplay style>unique characters>unique premise>charming art styleMan, this game looks really cool.>You and I both know this game can only have one ending. The question is what you do before that happens.DAMN IT!
>>694956648>Justice route Clover>Taking a child's soul instead of a murderer's soulIf anything, he should still be using at least a fraction of his soul to heal Kanako because she is also a victim of the monsters and not saving her would not be just.
>>694997529He'd kill her and take her soul as an act of mercy. He puts her out of her misery, and finds a way to bring at least some peace to her by letting her soul see the surface.
>>694990178mondealy is there if you want undertale-inspired-hmofa
>>694998004>mondealysoulless
>>694987792I mostly just hate the industry for the fact that the only two good games in the past two years were Pizza Tower and Undertale Yellow.
how do I defeat the big birb
>>694994240i still don't get what would be special about a robot that can cross the barrier if any other monster can do it, the only reason they haven't was because asgore told them to wait for the seven so they could destroy the barrier for everyone
>>694998004I've played it, was fine and all but it was too short. development between not susie and not kris happens too fast, game is very linear too, and the division between the underground and surface arent explored in much detail, in the end it left me wanting more but there just wasn't anything left, which is funnily similar complaints I have to everhood which was an UT likedeer girl should have been an option>>694998248brothership was good
>>694998470Mettaton is indestructible in his base form.
>>694988315>when the darkner's turn arrives, you can only choose between a couple of attacks>you actually get to control the patterns you throw at the enemy soul which tries to evade themSound like too much effort for a single fight but it would be undeniably KINO
>>694998248I liked nine sols, despite it feeling weird at times
>>694998313you mean zartlet?you must endure
>>694998313slam your head against the wall until it works
>>694998842if it was that open and shut, you would actually see monsters pressing for mettaton to go already, especially those who don't like him around (BURGERPANTS)the main reason mettaton is a big deal is because he's a starhell when his fight comes, the way he reveals his plan of taking the human soul and going to the surface, it's like no one had ever discussed it before. most likely because all monsters are so focused on asgore's plan that they won't entertain a gamble with a (maybe) indestructible robot that would setback total monster freedom
>>695000864mettaton says himself he doesnt really want to exterminate humanity though, he just wants to leave underground so he can have more fans than however many monsters are left in the underground
>>694997671No, because the entire point of his mission is to find and later to avenge children. It makes no sense for him to kill a child. It would make more sense for him to give up a fraction of his soul (and health and power) instead.
>>695001471Kanako is a drippy puddle of sadness by the time he gets to her. He's already killed her one remaining parent, along with everyone else he knows lives in the Underground. At that point it would be more cruel to leave her as is than to kill her.Also how do you give someone a piece of your soul? Since when are souls divisible?
>>695001471kanako would hate him after she learns what he did though
>>695001990What's she gonna do? Die again?
>>695002101falling down isn't dying
>>695002101depends if getting a human soul "cures" amalgamationor if kanako is actually amalgamated or if her state is something else, though if we go with "canon" she is the spoon even if I hate the idea of thatif she is amalgamated she is pretty much immortal
>>694996939so can anyone comment on my analysis or was it tldr.
>>695001824She'd still be alive.12,500 monster souls have equal power to one human soul. When Asriel fell apart, the monsters got their souls back.
>>694996892>>694996939>>695003046you forgot the actual reason for the axis project, integrity attacking kanako (and dalv was there too)when the project was shelved he felt like he was betrayed by monsterkind and tried to find a way to fight against the human menace by himself and that (literally) consumed his life
>>695003262thats part of the reason, but it doesnt debunk what I said.He could still feel betrayed alongside having low self esteem. The two dont really contradict each other. The events that I mentioned could have caused feelings of betrayel and low self esteem
El bailador genocide fight being gatekept if you clean off the dunes before encountering him sucks ass. It's one of the few sad moments they got right and you can't experience it if you play the game correctly? What the fuck?
>>695003638I think that it's a good thing.
>>695003153>She'd still be alive.There are fates worse than death, and she's suffering one. Geno Clover would view killing Kanako like putting down a suffering animal.>12,500 monster souls have equal power to one human soul. When Asriel fell apart, the monsters got their souls back.I don't see what that has to do with sub-dividing souls. That's 12,500 souls being taken and then returned. Not one soul being divided into 12.500 pieces.
>>695002784She looks like one of the arrancars from Bleach
>>695004169If Clover heals her, then she's just alone. That's nothing compared to Clover somehow going against the entire reason for his mission.Souls can increase in power and can be extracted and stored, so why can't part of a soul be broken off? Also the steroids were made with part of Integrity's soul.
>>695003153>>695004169>>695004423since 12500 monster souls (probably a bit more honestly) equals about a human soul, clover could actually unironically give her 1/1000th of his soul and still be fine while she does a full recovery
>>695001260yeah but once again, when mettaton betrays alphys he makes it look like taking the human soul and going to the surface wasn't even in the cards, no matter what he actually wanted or planned to do once he got thereso asgore can't be specially interested on mettaton's war capabilities not only because he's a softy but because no monster even suggested it, so he can't even pretend to be interested since there's no pressure there
>>695004792Exactly.
>>695004423>If Clover heals her, then she's just aloneIF, that's a big if. We have no idea if this would work. Even if it does work, she's a small child trapped in a desolate world. She'll die anyways. All he's doing is making it quick.>Souls can increase in power and can be extracted and stored,so why can't part of a soul be broken off?Animals can grow and be put in pens, but if you cut one in half, it'll die.>Also the steroids were made with part of Integrity's soul.Its made from determination extracted from the soul. And did you forget that's what did this in the first place? Sticking her with more determination is only going to make her worse.
>>695004896will never understand the autism people have over yellow (to the point of claiming it's even better than undertale and deltarune)
>>695004792How do you give someone 1/1000th of a soul. Souls aren't pieces of food you can divide into arbitrary percentages. They're living things.And how do you know one monster souls worth of power would fix her? How do you know it wouldn't take a whole human soul's worth to fix it?
>>695001824>along with everyone else he knows lives in the Underground.>>695004423>Clover heals her, then she's just aloneNigga this isn't undertale genocide, Clover spares Mo for a reason. He's not cleaning house like Frisk.
>>695005074Ok? I don't see what that has to do with the topic at hand.
>>695005113Ok, fair enough. She still has no one to take care of her.
>>695003638Why did they do that to begin with?
>>695005108>How do you give someone 1/1000th of a soulit would be very painful
>>695005108>How do you give someone 1/1000th of a soulwith a lot of determinationthis also causes clover to overpower flowey and prevent him from resetting>And how do you know one monster souls worth of power would fix her? How do you know it wouldn't take a whole human soul's worth to fix it?we don't but I wanted to see it happen anyway, the devs already broke canon anyway, they could just do it and give the people what they wanted
>>695003262Though I am planning to make another version of it. I will account for what you typed in version 3.
>>694950270Where mobile port
>>695005517If we're doing wish fulfillment then do it in the good ending. Justice Clover putting Kanako down like she's Old Yeller is thematically relevant and fits excellently with the narrative.
>>695003638UTY has a problem with bosses not showing up if you finish the kill count. I think Napstablook was the only time that happened, but fighting him in geno doesn't even change anything.
>>695005074UTY mostly gets what the fans actually care about even if the execution isn't perfect.It also put way more effort into aspects UT ignored, like the graphics.
>>695005846>UTY has a problem with bosses not showing up if you finish the kill count.Imagine if Toby did that shit with Papyrus.
I think I should be honest to myself.One of the reasons I dislike Ceroba (and Chujin to a lesser extent) is that they are like a kind of people I hate in real life.
>>695006307Elaborate
>>695004896>IF, that's a big if. We have no idea if this would work.We have no idea if it won't work, either.>she's a small child trapped in a desolate world. She'll die anyways. All he's doing is making it quick.Clover isn't killing every monster. He is only attacking those that don't remove themselves from the battles. He doesn't try to enter the storage containing Starlo's family, nor does he try to force Guardener out, nor does he even let the player direct him away from his mission.>Animals can grow and be put in pensSouls are not animals.>Its made from determination extracted from the soul.No, it's made with part of her soul. That's why Ceroba wanted a pure soul to heal Kanako. Both pacifist route and justice route Clover have pure souls, just in different ways. If it was just determination, then Kanako wouldn't just fall down immediately.>>695005695No it isn't. Undertale's genocide route can't be justified because Frisk is just doing it for the lols. Undertale Yellow's justice route is done because Clover wants to find and later avenge the murdered children. It doesn't make thematic sense for Clover to murder a child.
>>695006307so projection, got it
people talk about faggots wanting pacifist to always be the golden ending but i find fags desperate to justify epic genoslide murder spree routes far worse
>>695006528They're the kind of conformist normal fags who care way too much about life. I tried looking up a word for that but I can't find anything.They're boring, idealistic driven, and feel superior over others who aren't.>>695006814Yes, you're correct. I'm a 20-somethings loser discussing a silly pixel game late at night. I'm a Starlo at life in the end.
>>695007120if chujin and to a lesser extent ceroba were conformist then none of the events on yellow relating them would have happened
>Undyne after the Undyne vs Martlet comichttps://files.catbox.moe/vie1qk.png
>>695006726>It doesn't make thematic sense for Clover to murder a child.Clover wouldn't view it as murder. Hence the Old Yeller analogy. As far as he's concerned she's practically dead already, he's just putting an end to her suffering. Justice is all about Clover forcing himself to make painful choices and do fucked up things because he thinks they're the right thing to do. Putting down a child turned abomination is perfectly in line with that.>No, it's made with part of her soulIs there anything that actually says that in the game?>then Kanako wouldn't just fall down immediatelyShe's a small child, she got hit with a much larger dose equivalent to her size than the monsters in Alphys's lab did. Plus we see from Zartlet that Chujin's serum acts a lot faster than Alphys's. Plus there's the fact that the determination was directed towards killing her specifically.>Souls are not animals.A soul is the culmination of your being, it is very much alive. Living things die when you cut them to pieces.
>>695007291I said it was hard to find the correct words. They are rebellious compared to the average silliness of the monsters, but if they were real people they would be that kind of stuck up strict parents who want to shove their children into medicine or law college.
>>695006870>Game that explores a different element of Undertale's story (the monsters murdering human children)>Player character explicitly shows restraint even on the most violent route, unlike Undertale's genocide route>Retard seethes about this
>>695007120> I tried looking up a word for that but I can't find anything.self-righteous?
>>695007120>>695007415yeah, you're definitively projecting, but not in the way you think you are.
this argument of clover not killing a child is kinda moot when you can kill the 3 kids in snowdin that form a totemhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l44iDxGlFo8
>>695007440There is more than just that.>>695007467If you're thinking about parent issues, mine aren't like that, though I know some people who are.If it's something else, please say it.
>>695007546nah, i'm saying you're a failed normalfag
>>695007379>Putting down a child turned abomination is perfectly in line with that.Not if there was an alternative. If Kanako was an adult, then he might have just shot her like he does to the malfunctioning Steamworks robots, but Kanako is a child. It doesn't fit for Clover to murder a child.>Is there anything that actually says that in the game?I haven't played in a while, so I can't remember an exact quote.>She's a small child, she got hit with a much larger dose equivalent to her size than the monsters in Alphys's lab did.The serum works differently. It isn't just determination.>A soul is the culmination of your being, it is very much alive. Living things die when you cut them to pieces.You can donate blood and graft bits of you elsewhere without dying.
>>695007642And what that's supposed to be?
>>695007531>you laugh at tachrist, thats so cruel that its actually out of character.lategame geno clover would do this but not early game.
>>695007776>You can donate blood and graft bits of you elsewhere without dying.Try doing that with a brain. The soul is not some simple organ like blood or bone. It's an incredibly important and complex thing. And who's gonna perform the soul grafting? How does he know he won't die? Can't implement justice if he's dead.>Not if there was an alternativeHow would even know that, and if some monster did tell him why would he believe them. Why would he think they aren't lying or believe it would work?>It doesn't fit for Clover to murder a child.as I said previously, not murder.>The serum works differently. It isn't just determination.You have no proof of that.
>>694949045Wtf undetale is like 10 years old no fucking way there's still vh threads about it that's wild
>>695008456In that entire decade nothing was ever as good. Unironically.
>>695008345To add to this, why would he even view Kanako as child? Some horrific half melted monster approaches me I'd assume it was just a mindless abomination. If I learn that it used to be a child until somebody turned it into this, I'd pity it, and assume it wants nothing more than to die, or at least would if it still had the capacity to think.I wouldn't assume that taking out my soul and somehow breaking a piece off of it would cure her and also not kill me.
>>694950270Finished this earlier tonight. I appreciate the added Dalv characterisation since they give him some proper closure this time around.Also during neutral you can ignore Martlet in the UG Apartments and go straight to New Home
BIG HOT TAKE but Monster designs that are just "animal person" are the weakest designs from Undertale I wanna see weird shit like oh fuck idk talking ovens or candy monsters or someshit, the Monster enemies you fight in both Classic undertale and Yellow are just better then ceroba or some other shit
>>695008731was there anything new with 'nako?
>>695008345>Try doing that with a brain.You can't put a brain in a jar and have it still be alive. You're just being retarded now.>who's gonna perform the soul grafting?Clover.>How would even know thatHe sees a child that's clearly been experimented on and messed up, and decides that it's an injustice that he needs to correct. How did Clover know that he could justice blast Axis when nobody told him?>as I said previously, not murder.Yes it is.>You have no proof of that.The monsters degraded into unkillable amalgamates, while even Undyne The Undying wasn't the same as Zenith Martlet.>>695008517Clover's check allows him to see a monster's true stats, and he can even see into Ceroba, Martlet, and Flowey's pasts in their battles.
>>694949009I am once more treating this as a general Undertale/Deltarune fangames thread.Revival's Underfell released a devlog some hours ago and progress seems to be slow since one of the developers is in a bad financial spot. TC!Underfell is supposedly close to finishing the ruins but it's been 2 months since the last devlog and the Discord is used mostly by dumbass minors bringing little interesting discussion. Anyway, how would you like Underfell be handled and written, ideally?
>>695008943>Clover.He's gonna take his own soul out and perform surgery on it? It would be more plausible if he just domed himself in front of her so she could take his soul.>You can't put a brain in a jar and have it still be alive. You're just being retarded now.I just don't buy that you can sub divide souls. The idea sound impossible on the face of it.>The monsters degraded into unkillable amalgamates, while even Undyne The Undying wasn't the same as Zenith Martlet.Could've been a difference in the monsters. The amalgams were already dying and didn't really know what was going on. Martlet knew full well what she was doing and wanted nothing more than to stop Clover. It was Martlet's will to live and kill Clover that made her transform, just like it was Kanako's weak will that made her get melted.
>>695008863more like retarded twitter contrarian take
was ceroba martlet and starlo knowing about the genocide. And then viewing clovers sacrifice as a means of human extermination, intentional.I refuse to believe the devs didnt notice the genoicde plothole.
>>695009219Either as a 2edgy4u parody or as a tragedy with no edginess. Either was, none of this "sadistic evil sans" or "monsters go crazy from being upset" shit. Have it be like a series of escalating catastrophes caused the Underground to go full Mad Max and now everyone is panicking and doing what they can to survive. Maybe someone like has taken over and implemented some kind of martial law near the capital, but everywhere else its anarchy. And everyone trying to kill you is doing it out of desperation, not out of craziness or whatever.
>>695009338>He's gonna take his own soul out and perform surgery on it?He took his own soul out at the end of the pacifist route right before letting Ceroba take it, and at the end of the justice route to stop Asgore's trident and justice blast Asgore.>I just don't buy that you can sub divide souls. The idea sound impossible on the face of it.That's your interpretation.>Could've been a difference in the monsters. The amalgams were already dying and didn't really know what was going on. Martlet knew full well what she was doing and wanted nothing more than to stop Clover.And Undyne? Even the dying monsters got up and were fine initially, then started melting.
>>695010341>He took his own soul out at the end of the pacifist route right before letting Ceroba take it, and at the end of the justice route to stop Asgore's trident and justice blast Asgore.I can accept taking his soul out, its the performing surgery on it while its out part that I'm caught up on.>And Undyne?She probably would've had a zartlet style transformation if you gave her a dt injection right then.
>>694949009>>694994980reminder that the plant children are for hugs, not fugs.
>>694950270>>695008731What's the excuse for Dalv not sticking around? I'd like it if he tried to get reacquainted with Snowdin life facing his anxiety/fears but the stress made him go back mid-journey.
>>695005487YOU'RE A BIG GAY
>>695008863>talking ovens or candy monsters or someshitI don't like monsters based on objects since thats the gimmick of darkners, I know that there were some in Undertale but still>the Monster enemies you fight in both Classic undertale and Yellow are just better then ceroba or some other shitCeroba is mostly liked for her design, if she were an ugly or wacky monster instead much less people would try to defend her
>>695012131>Ceroba is mostly liked for her design, if she were an ugly or wacky monster instead much less people would try to defend her(not that anon)but its also because ceroba is the most "interesting" of the cast.dalv is just non existant, martlet is just kinda boring and starlos plot is minor compared to cerobas shit.For better or worse ceroba was the main attraction in uty.
>>695007334Undyne doesn't wear a bra?
>>694997024>Also, does this game have a female dev?That would have been funny, but no, the lead dev is a non binary guy who has written gay Undertale fanfiction before
>>695012193>but its also because ceroba is the most "interesting" of the cast.Ceroba has the most inconsistent personality among the main cast and what little personality is shown is very boring, not only that we know nothing about Ceroba's interests outside her family, we don't know if she has any hobbies or anything
>>695007334Undyne fails.Martlet and Clover win.Clover gets a much needed hug from Martlet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSAKZKbZKr4
>>695012475that is true but what ceroba has dark tragic backstory that the game mainly focuses on. Meanwhile dalv just gets forgotten. And starlos plot really doesnt end up being important. He even gets cucked in genocide because the devs thought hurr durr we needed another ceroba fight here.Martlet is the only other one that has some level of importance. But she doesnt have the dark tragic backstory which appeals to a lot of people. Shes just normal.I agree with you that ceroba doesnt really have a personality. And I think its unfair that she gets too much attention. But at the same time the narrative clearly focuses on her.
the birdcucks are here
the schizo is here
>>695012851I wish they atleast tried to explain why Ceroba was so fucking powerful, its not only her stats but also her moveset wich is superior to pretty much every monster in base UT (not counting Sans)
>>695013304Ceroba says that she used to go to the gym.
>>695013304Residual determination from all the boss monster sperm she ingested
>>695013304The pacifist final boss should have had a shit tier moveset and stats, you're right.
>>695013304>>695013375Gym and theres also some strange things about the ketsekunes (that mask)I wish the game explored these things more. Like the steamworks optional texts mentions that the ketsekunes and dreemurs had connections with each other.That is honestly very fucking interesting, And perhaps if the game had more development we could have explored that.But instead the game just ends at the roof.
>>695013304The answer is simple. Bullshit writing. Favouritism. And because the devs likely thought it would make people like her more.
I would happily throw the average type of retard that posts on these threads off a fucking roof.
Theres certain plotlines that dont get explored. The mask is one and the ketsekunes connnection to the dreemurs is the other.What could these plot elements have been? Would they have been explored in true lab?
>>695013580The plot would've been more interesting if Chujin was the same age as Asgore. Then he would've had first hand experience of the war to justify his hatred of humans and would've been able to have much more interesting interactions with Asgore. Chujin is a boss monster, yet the devs don't leverage it at all.
>>695014106You have a good point there anon. If chujin was a boss monster then that wold have lead to interesting things.A over 500 year old fox monster would have had a very interesting history with a over 500 year old goat monster.Of course theres now a plot issue aka why doesnt asgore mention chujin in ut proper. But still having this asgore and chujin being the only few boss monster dynamic, now thats a interesting situation.
>>695014347>If chujin was a boss monster then that wold have lead to interesting things.If chujin was a boss monster the same age as asgoregoddamnit im staying up too long.,
>>695014347>Of course theres now a plot issue aka why doesnt asgore mention chujin in ut proper.Asgore never mentions Gerson in UT either despite knowing him since the war, I don't see how this is an issue
>>695014749fair point.
>>695013375>>695013580The gym doesn't explain why Ceroba has stuff like a shield that can casually deflect attacks from beings like axis, has attacks that reduce max hp or can turn the battle box into a hitbox, thats high tier magic compared to what most monsters doAlso this implies that any monster that goes to the gym is Ceroba tier in terms of power
>>695014347I'm just imaging Chujin approaching Asgore as more of an equal. Sure, Asgore is the king, but he's not utterly beyond like he is to the rest of the monsters. Chujin probably could do a lot of the things Asgore can do if he really set his mind to it. Sure he probably wouldn't be able to match him, but he'd be in the same ballpark. As opposed to regular monsters, of whom even the most powerful and well trained, Undyne couldn't even touch him. And then of course there's the more psychological sense as well. Asgore is old, very old, he's seen a lot, done a lot, but so has Chujin. To him he's not a timeless immortal, he's just a guy. A guy who's shared a lot of common experiences.I'm imagining Chujin trying to reason with him by bringing up things that only the two of them would understand. Like how much better life on the surface is, or the slow decay of life underground which they've witnessed, or just how badly they got beaten by the humans. Or hell, even something as simple as fear for his child's life. That's something Asgore is painfully familiar with.>over 500 yearI'm thinking its way longer than that if they both were old enough to have been born on the surface.
>>695014859Maybe Ceroba is just naturally strong.
>>695014859>>695015036headcanon time.fox monsters are naturally this strong. Which is why the ketsekune family was connected to the dreemurs.Simply because fox monsters are very powerful monsters.
>>695015148But Ceroba is a coyote
brutally killing clover while martlet is asleep then framing her for it and gaslighting her into thinking she really did it
>>695015297She's a distant relative of Wile E Coyote and has toon force.
>>695015148Ceroba could just be a freak of nature who doesn't realize her own strength.
>>695014982>To him he's not a timeless immortal, he's just a guy. A guy who's shared a lot of common experiences.This is very beautiful in a way. Chujin being the only one who could truly view asgore as what he is, just a old monster.I..I like this a lot>I'm imagining Chujin trying to reason with him by bringing up things that only the two of them would understand. Like how much better life on the surface is, or the slow decay of life underground which they've witnessed, or just how badly they got beaten by the humans. Or hell, even something as simple as fear for his child's life. That's something Asgore is painfully familiar with.Im imagining it now and it has a lot of potential anon. One immortal appealing to another with a connection that only these two have (ignore toriel) Talking about things and expirences that no other person has expirenced. Being burden by the endless contiuation of time which they are a passenger of and they cant get off (well unless they had a child but eh)I love this scenario anon. Now excsue me as I steal it for a fanfic and dont credit you.>I'm thinking its way longer than that if they both were old enough to have been born on the surface.fair.
>>695015297>>695015541schizo theory time.Ceroba is also a boss monster. And she doesnt know it.
>>695013726Fucking thank you.
>>695013726>>695015690I'm trans by the way.
>>695015661She's not a Boss monster. The way she dies, pretty much confirms that. She's just a strong monster.
>>695015784well then Im out of ideas.
>>695015661Chujin is actually a normal monster and Ceroba is the boss monster, but by some mistake they have it backwards.
>>695015592>I love this scenario anon. Now excsue me as I steal it for a fanfic and dont credit you.you better post it on the vrpg thread so I can read it.
>>695015826Ceroba's soul doesn't persist after death, like Asgore's or Toriel's, she just turns into dust once she dies like any other monster. She's just an above average monster, but she's not a boss monster.
>>695015826it all makes sense now.>>695015784>>695015967okay how about this. She has some degree of boss monster genetics. But she mainly has normal monster genetics.As a result shes a strong monster. But she isnt really a boss monster.>>695015880I will think about it.
>>695015661Ceroba is actually Chujin's cousin
>>695015967Ceroba was actually leeching away Chujin's soul power every time they had sex (this is an ability kitsune have) without realizing it, and that's the real reason he was so weak while she is so strong.
>>695016105Chujin is actually from Alabama, the Japanese stuff is just because he's a weeb.
>>695016105sweet home alabama.
>>695016094At best you could say Ceroba is like Undyne. She's not as powerful as a boss monster, but is still exceptionally strong.
>>695016298>ceroba is like undyneyeah this makes sense. This is the right answer
so the ketsekune mansion probably isnt going to be moved to the surface.Does this mean chujin wasted all his money for nothing, building that house.
>>695010341>>695010454To throw my unsolicited hat in the ring in this conversation: Justice-Clover is an unleashed, rabid dog compared to all of his other iterations. His behavior throughout the route, particularly when interacting with Martlet, make it clear that he is a whole different beast.When he encounters Martlet outside Snowdin, she explicitly says that she doesn't want to fight; she's trying to help him evacuate because she's mistaken him for a monster (and the instinct to help doesn't even go away if she's corrected). Clover MUST throw the first attack to proceed. Outside the Wild East, Martlet doesn't enter a FIGHT at all and is fully aware of what Clover is and what he's doing. All she does is (poorly) try to talk him down. Clover draws his gun on her in response. When he enters the town, he doesn't even give the player a chance not to attack Starlo. In the Steamworks, Flowey correctly points out that he's wandering aimlessly looking for robots to fight, despite them giving him no advantages and having nothing to do with the missing humans. And at the end of the line, he purposely delays visiting Asgore to confront Martlet again. Not because he hates her, as she deduces, but to tie up loose ends.When he comes down from that rooftop, whatever code or mission he fell down with is gone. It's a facade that he uses to be judge, jury, and executioner based only on what he feels is right at the time. All that's left is the will to survive and the indistinct, boiling rage left over from dozens of lost timelines.So, to answer the question: what would he do if he met Kanako? It's hard to imagine him doing anything positive; he actively represses any lingering sympathy for Martlet and monsterkind as a whole during the Zenith fight. But beyond that, I don't know. Maybe he'd ignore her. Maybe he'd go for a mercy kill. Maybe a very non-mercy kill. But Justice-Clover is primarily one thing: unfettered, by the rules of his world and the rules he once gave himself.
>>695016535Chujin was probably planning to have lots of children with Ceroba. He could move his family to the surface.
monster human war theorist herequick summary of my beliefs:monster humnan war doesnt make any sense. THere should have been some humans living with the monsters. Some of these humans would have given their souls to the monsters. And monsters would have won.Ending that summary, uty makes this problem a lot worse. Uty intro implies that the monster human war happened during medievial times. Which gives humans and monsters a lot of time to establish relations. And gives a lot of time for humans to live in monster lands.And yet we dont see any humans siding with the monsters. Even though the centuraries of monster human srelations should have lead to numerous humans settling in the monster nation.how unusual.
>>695017141He uses his children as free labor to build a new mansion on the surface
>>695017141But chujin is dead. So that means no children and no surface family
>>695016094...Am I the only one who still feels awkward talking about monster genetics? It's just weird thinking about fantasy creatures who are not made of flesh and bone in terms of gene inheritance and Punnett squares. There's nothing egregiously wrong with it, but it feels almost like talking about midichlorians again.
>>695017218Where does it imply medieval times?
>>695017453https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=the introasgore is wearing medieval style armor. This implies its set during medieval times.
>>695017498https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNs2HfB9M_gthis is the right link.
>>695017028Clover only attacks the monsters that attack him. He doesn't attack monsters that remove themselves from battle. As soon as Martlet ends the first fight, so does Clover. He only draws his gun on Martlet after she suggests that the human children deserved it. He then lowers his gun. He makes no attempt to attack Starlo's family, Dina, or Guardener. He goes from LV 12 to LV 19 when he realises that he is facing a child murderer. In New Home, all of the monsters have evacuated, apart from Martlet. Justice route Clover is very much violent, but not a rabid dog.
>>695017450you are not the only one. I am absolutely fucking confused why they introduced monster genetics.I tend to just ignore the feeling and accept that uty did this weird decision. But still I understand where you are coming from anon, it was a incredibly strange decision.
>>694949009qrd on this game? i finished undertale and i liked it, though i'm kinda skeptic on trying similar fanmade games due to the retardation of the fanbase
>>695017450Nothing wrong with magic biology, provided it actually is magic and not just renamed science. Like the systems would be fundamentally different, even if their most surface level layers appear similar. Like there's no genes and alleles, but instead some complex collection of thoughts and feelings getting shuffled around to create a new monster based on the emotions of its parents, the phase of the moon, and the currents of ambient magic in the air. Monster children being conceived by the passion of the act rather than any sperm or egg, Stuff like that.
>>695017809Yeah and I dont disagree with that. But uty doesnt do this. Instead uty directly mentions GENES.Which is weird.
>>695017674It's a good game, but the endings are rushed.
>>695016535That's just the nature of moving out, I think. Asgore certainly isn't going to be moving his castle brick by brick to the surface. If they want to move to the surface, all of the monsters will have to leave their homes, and many other things, behind.>>695017219>Chujin flooding the world with his progeny, all certified craftsmen and meh engineers from the age of 12One shudders to imagine.
>>695017809All magic is science we can't understand
>>695017498>>695017547Is that Asgore? That doesn't look like his armor, I can't see any horns, and he doesn't have the trident. That might be a different monster. If it is it could just be a monster that whose body looks like armor, such as night knight.That aside, only the monsters here look medieval. The humans in the 2016 version look bronze age, possibly stone age, while the release ones look like iron age or late bronze age to me.
>>695018000>That's just the nature of moving out, I think. Asgore certainly isn't going to be moving his castle brick by brick to the surface. If they want to move to the surface, all of the monsters will have to leave their homes, and many other things, behind.True but it still reflects chujins pointless in the end dreams. Chujin built that mansion as a house for his large family and maybe even clan. Now that mansion is going to be abandoned and left to rot. A testament that chujin died and never achieved his dream of having a large family.really depressing desu.
>>695017671Mixed races is a common trope in fantasy. When a human and a elf have a kid in dnd that makes a half elf. Or you go back to mythology and you get all the varying degrees of demigod.
>>695018168Well the monster is leading from the front. Is huge compared to the rest. And is directly facing the poncho human.Things that reflect asgores position in the original ut intro.But yeah theres some strange oddities.Also your other stuff is true. I need to reevaluate some stuff.
>>695018040Yeah, but its different science. Its like comparing Newtonian physics to Hawking's physics. There probably is some underlying component beneath all magic, but its also probably nothing like atoms.
>>695017851Maybe its a loan word the monsters adopted from humans to describe a similar phenomena.
>>695018448that could be possible. that could have happened.good point
>>695018482I imagine its not what the devs intended, but it fits and helps fix an oversight on their part. Sort of like making Ceroba a coyote because she's not very fox like.
>>695018327I always figured that monster civilization was much older than human civilization, so the monsters were more advanced than humans.
>>695018659that fits with skywatchers author of dont bear the weight of the world alone interpertation.Monsters had magic cheat codes and thus could have developed civilization earlier. Humans meanwhile are creatures of physical matter and thus suffer from the worst aspects of the environment.Which would explain why monster kind survived so long on the surface until finally humanity catched up.>>695018603yeah this. It fixes a lot.
>>694992530If Wildfire gets cancelled do we string the devs up and beat them with sticks?
>>695019459No.
>>695019459Im planning to do that to godotanon.
>>695019459Yes, and then we beat Naranja anon if he doesn't finish his game
>>695015541>Ceroba could just be a freak of nature who doesn't realize her own strength.Would explain why Ceroba is several orders of magnitude stronger than Undyne in game and yet she thinks she would have no chance against herCeroba constantly downplays her own strength because she doesn't have battle experience, but in reality she doesn't need it because Ceroba is built different
>anon discovers tard strength
>>695017450I talked about this before, I like to think that monster "genes" are actually memetic, meaning that the physical characteristics of the monster depend on the thoughts of the parents of the monster and not on actual genetics
>>695011981that kinda does happen midway but he comes back
>>695017674>i'm kinda skeptic on trying similar fanmade games due to the retardation of the fanbaseDon't worry this game doesn't feature any of the usual retardation/cringe of the fandom, it still has some writting issues but they are unrelated to the Undertale fandom
>>695019459>>695021929How many of the orange fangames there were anounced are still in development?
>>695016535>Does this mean chujin wasted all his money for nothing, building that house.Chujin wanted to have a lot of children but got cold feet after realizing that Ceroba is retarded and didn't want to run the risk of filling the underground with retarded foxes
>>695015592>This is very beautiful in a way. Chujin being the only one who could truly view asgore as what he is, just a old monster.I mean, Gerson is just as old as Asgore, he might not be immortal but he is still a war veteran with hundreds of years just like Asgore
I want to work on my hard mode mod but I don’t have access to my computer for at least another week. I doubt I’m releasing before the anniversary.
>>695017547Clover looks so weird in the first intro
>>695024370there's nothing stopping me, im just lazy. havent even touched the UI since yesterday and ive been up all night.anyways might as well ask again now that there's a completely different group of people here, which of these looks better? my personal preference is on 4 or 5 but i wanna know what you guys think.
>>695026249I think I’d do better assisting somebody else making a fan game than making my own things. I’m a problem solver, but making a game requires creating problems that the player needs to solve. The most fun I’ve had is coming up with bullet pattern ideas and figuring out how to implement them.
Ceroba's big fat fluffy tail....oh wait.>>6950262494.The readability is better.
desu i find the morality of some ending defenders to be horrificsome of them say the ending is justified because cerova gave clover a choice. and that clover cant get convinced to not suicide anywaybut if we apply that logic to real life its horrific. are these ending defenders saying that if they encounter a ten year old kid anf this kid stubbornly wants to suicide then its okay. its okay because its their choice
>>694988315>>694998951i do have plans for short term darkner party members, but darkners in general are under wraps since thats where a majority of the new characters are.i have one that im really struggling to find a good name for and not a single friend has been able to help me, but if i explain him it'll ruin the whole point of his character.good idea on the second one though, stealing that for a secret boss.>>695026575if you're talking about puzzles, may i suggest working backwards?create a problem by throwing a few random elements into the scene, think about how you'd want a puzzle with those elements to be solved, then connect the dots.
i miss return to form...
You.What’s the most autistic thing you’ve done related to Undertale Yellow?
>>695026575>The most fun I’ve had is coming up with bullet pattern ideas and figuring out how to implement them.Funnily enough coming up with bullet patterns was one of the hardest things for me, especially when you also have to make them thematically appropiate, you can't give every single monster random bullets and lasers, but it was still fun
>>695028085>What’s the most autistic thing you’ve done related to Undertale Yellow?Stop playing videogames for months and start learning gamedev in my free time because of how much I liked UTY
>>695028085talked with a martlet chatbot in character.ai for a couple of hours
>>695028085Make a couple sprites for this fucking guy >>695026249
>>694982959The Martlet redesign looks terrible
>>695029357Most redesigns make Martlet shorter and wider and give her an armor or glasses (for some reason)
>>695028085>put Ceroba, Martlet and Chujin in Rimworld>brainstormed a food chain/restaurant AU with Clover being the new business in town and could run everyone out with his Genosliders or help everyone's failing businesses.>Mixed my Sanic autism with UTY and drew a Mobian Ceroba.
>>695027435thanks for your great and needful post sir
>>695029689its because she is part of the royal guard, she even confirms she has a set of armor but left it in snowdinalso people just want to give her a different bodyshape to add more body diversity to the main cast, and her official art has her a bit chubby
>and her official art has her a bit chubbyit does? she looks pretty thin to me
>>695028085Pic related.
>>695031605this one, it isnt much but there is a bit
>>695028085made a fangame that later was upgraded to an original game (still in progress)
>DRY>"c'mon dad! why wont you trust cole?">"ive already told you young lady, humans just cannot be trusted">"why not">"they can just change their entire personality over night">"thats stupi-">both of them look out the window, cole is walking down the street with a traditional japanese outfit instead of his usual cowboy stuff>"im sure there's a good explanation">"no sweetie this is exactly what i mean. just like that he's completely different!">"well maybe i like him even more now!"
>>695012131If you don't like monsters based off objects then you def won't like the Tsundere plane
>>695034123>If you don't like monsters based off objects then you def won't like the Tsundere planeThats was one of the monsters I was thinking on when I said that there are monster based on objects, it just makes darkerners less special if monsters can look like inanimate objects too
Monster based Monster...
>>695034783>>695012131I think monsters based on objects was before toby was sure he was going to make deltarune at all, remember UT was mostly a test to see if he could make a game before going ahead with DRI don't think there are many monsters in DR based on objects anymore and the new monsters are pretty much almost all furries anyway>>695034856what are skeletons, though that said I could see monsters based on actual IRL monsters mythos and in universe could be where those mythos originated from
>>695034856>Monster based Monster...so things like slimes, beholders mimics and other stuff that only exists on rpg games?
>>695035059would you say that a rock monster counts as a monster based off an object? or would that fall on the "elemental" category like fire or water monsters?
>>695035428in UT's case it counts as object because the only rock monster is a literal rock that speaksif it was more like pic related that would be closer to an elemental
>>695033068why would clover/cole do this?
>>695008456Well there's also Deltarune which is currently in development.
All of you should feel bad for giving this trite garbage any attention at all.
>>695008456the threads are sustained by pure raw autism and schizophrenia nowdon't go in if you don't want to lose your sanity
>>695032139I don't get it
>>695040201Watch Space Ghost.
>>695041241man I haven't watched that in literally over a decadehere's the thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVMPL56mdGgdon't like how it implies clover doesnt really love kanako though
>>695015304cool down flowey
>>695033515Cute can of coke
>>695043523Cute paw feet, but also>Sparkledog
>>695028085Seethe for months about the true pacifist ending.
>>695043662people like to give UT character hair streaks colored like their soul, and kanako gets blue streaks since integrityalso that kanako is from an AU that made clover black because its a self insert of the artists' boyfriend or something
Gyaru Ceroba and Harajuku Kanako..
>>695044382This artists give Clover and Kanako so many details they look jarring
>>695044864that's actually fanart of that AU, here's the actual artist's art
>>695028085Created the Mart-Rot pictures, the ones where it starts off listing "side effects" before the POV becomes Mart-rotten.
>>695028085this picture
>>695046030>Chujin watching his wife get ningen'd and creating a bastard AxisHow would he react beyond the grave?
>>695024357I think Asgore is older than Gerson
>>695046030>I could take five Clovers at once.>Heh, in a battle? Ceroba, in a battle, right?
>>695044382He looks more Mexican than black
>>695047449that's not the AU I was referring to, this is
>>695047615What's with the horns?
>>695047615>Kanako, I'm already a demon...
>>695048124supposely clover was disguised as a monster for so long using plastic horns that they got fused to his skull after a magic accident or somethingalso if clover is supposed to be the artist's boyfriend's self insert, does that mean kanako is the artist's self insert?
>>695047615>>695048124He found Brimstone
How would you modify the pacifist ending? I can't think of how to make it all fit together.>Have Clover go to the True Lab in the pacifist ending>Clover sacrifices himself to save KanakoHard mode options:>The mansion visit still happens in some way>The Ceroba fight still happens at New Home>This ending has to fit with canon, this includes no one being aware of the Amalgamates.
>>695028085Reconstruct Ketsukane Estate in Minecraft vanilla. It's not done yet, but most of it is finished.
>>695048326>>The Ceroba fight still happens at New Homeafter the fight ceroba convinces clover to go with her to the lab (and he is DETERMINED enough after hearing about kanako's sitaution to override flowey, flowey prob complains like a little bitch when that happens). you still have the option to continue with the regular ending instead of automatically suiciding>>This ending has to fit with canon, this includes no one being aware of the Amalgamates.have kanako be isolated on her own wing/floor of the lab due to being a boss monster, maybe retcon her being the spoon since that's stupid, the other doors/floors are locked and the party doesn't dwell on it much after leaving the lab (they don't meet alphys at all)after saving her, make her try to convince clover to not go to asgore (make the scene extra sad and add some shipping fuel maybe) but you proceed to asgore anyway and have the end be like flawed pacifist but at least kanako and ceroba are reunited
>>695048458Pics?Sounds neat.You should get a tamed fox and name it Ceroba and just have it sit in the main foyer.
>>695045549Dammit, their designs got even more complicated since the last time I saw themAlso, did we really need that shot of Clover's exposed back showing his tattoos/weird vines things?
>>695048326After the Ceroba fight, instead of committing suicide, Clover goes to the Lab to heal Kanako, is confronted by Flowey, and tells Flowey that he is going to Asgore immediately afterwards.Kanako could just have been kept in a different room or on a different floor, like how Martlet was able to quickly sneak in and grab the steroids without noticing anything else.After healing Kanako, Clover goes to Asgore and loses in an unwinnable battle (not just not being able to attack or act).
>>695043523>>695048272This Kanako has bigger milkers than Martlet
>>695048272>Gets hit with dark magic and turns into a black guy>But also now with horns like a demon for some reason.What did the author mean by this?
>>695049678Tumblr is unironically more racist than 4chan.
>>695049678he was already black from the start according to the artist, just the horns got fused with magic of course all comments on the post explaining why had people saying things like "well I think clover is better as black anyway">>695049525you should see post pregnancy kanako by signirsol
>>695028085i made a list of headcanon voices for some of the characters>Ceroba - Mel from Arcane (doesn't really make sense to me now that i think about it, because Mel kind of has a british accent and Ceroba has a lot of asian imagery to her)>Starlo - Engineer from TF2>Martlet - Webby from Ducktales>Axis - Cupid from FOP>Chujin - Viktor from Arcanei have a lot more for the other characters.
>>695050573I'd rather see her during it, personally.
>>695048326I can't think of anything on how to fix the Kanako plotline so think of this post as a way to slighty improve the ending>The mansion visit still happens in some wayThey go to the mansion like how it happens in the base game>The Ceroba fight still happens at New HomeCeroba goes to New Home to the same spot wih the tree where you fight her, she knows there is no point in hiding and that Clover/Starlo will soon find her, the tree was planted by Chujin soon after he started dating Ceroba, the ketsukane family used to visit it often and now Ceroba is there to think about her choices one last time before the final encounter>This ending has to fit with canon, this includes no one being aware of the Amalgamates.After the battle everything happems as normal but Clover doesn't instantly think about killing himself, instead the battle with Ceroba drew the atention of the royal guards and Asgore himself, Clover's friends are ready to defend him no matter what but seeing as they have no chance winning against the entire royal guard and Asgore, Clover decides to give his soul without a fight in order to not risk losing his friends
>>695050823she is pregnant with 2nd child in the pic so yes her tits are bigger than clover's head
I have a question for the fangame devs in here. How do you go about writing a section of your game? Do you already have some gameplay elements and art done before you start scripting? Or do you do the writing first?
>>695050925where can I find this kino?
>>695051040I usually write the base beats for the main story then split those into smaller chunks and then even smaller ones (where it is just "x happens, then party goes to y and does x") and then figure out how to write for that segment only at the time>>695051125look for signirsol on e6 or similar sites
Betrayed and trapped.
>>695050804For me:>Ceroba: Palutena from Kid Icarus Uprising>Starlo: Adventure Core from Portal 2>Martlet: Starfire from Teen Titans>Axis: Dalek from Doctor Who (minus the screaming since Axis can't use exclamation marks)>Guardener: Cybermen from Doctor Who
>>695051040>I have a question for the fangame devs in here. How do you go about writing a section of your game? Do you already have some gameplay elements and art done before you start scripting? Or do you do the writing first?I have an extremely vague idea of how things should go (MC goes to place, encounters boss, they fight), develop the rest of scene gameplay elements and then suffer writting dialogue and making the cutscenesThat was my experience with the intro of the Naranja prototype battle, it was a complete mess, but at least I got more experience now and I understand that the initial idea shouldn't be as vague and I really shouldn't start making the story itself as I develop the game, but rather have more stuff planned, its fine to write dialogue as the last part but you really should have a more clear idea of how the section goes before you actually develop anything
>>695049089Later, mostly designing it in creative before going for survival
>>695048326Saving Kanako would fix half the problem, because as it stands Clover's sacrifice accomplished jack shit. His effect on UT's outcome was roughly as positive as the murder ballerina's. Giving him a small personal victory would offset that.The other half is that Martlet and company should never, ever have supported Clover's self-destruction. It's a sudden attack of pragmatism in stark contrast to Toby's monsters, who are idealistic at heart. They almost always try to do the right thing, even when they're stupid and wrong. Even murderous Undyne won't sacrifice a single monster kid to achieve her goals. Alphys or Papyrus won't kill you even if you try. This is why monsters get collectively steamrolled by a small child--they don't have it in them.Especially Ceroba. The one thing she should have learned from her personal tragedy is that it's ugly, tragic, and wrong when a child has to be a hero. If Martlet and Starlo were 100% against Clover's suicide, she should be 200%. She's been there. The ultimate ironic punishment for her crimes would be to come to her senses just in time to lose another child
>>695054017What if Clover was alone with her?
>>695050163I think that artist is from twitter/reddit and not tumblr
Can of Pepsi
>>695051503>Starlo: Adventure Core from Portal 2Very good
>>695054017I think thats why most people suggest that clover goes to asgore anyway even after saving kanako, that's probably the entire issue and maybe after cerober fight clover could just go to asgore anyway despite what the trio thinks against it rather than he just sacrificing his soul, feels like the devs just wanted to do it for shock value when you think about it>Axis can't use exclamation marksis that actually a thing?
>>6950558692nd part was meant for >>695051503
>>695049525Does she? Martlet's still look bigger desu.And don't even get me started on Zenith Martlet.
>>695050804>>695051503My only head canon for the voices in UTY is that Martlet has a british accent, and that seems to be a common headcanon in the fandom
>BritishMakes sense, Martlet canonically loves having sex with little kids.
>>695054421Not giving Martlet and Starlo a chance for closure and to say goodbye would have been pretty cruel. The problem is he was right there in front of them perfectly fine and they let him go. Clover tried to save Starlo's soul while he was still fucking shooting him! They didn't even try.Honestly, that would have been a better final boss sequence. Some Core disaster spells the end of monsterkind if they don't get a 6th human soul then and there. What would Clover's real friends say?>Don't worry about us, pardner, here's your chance to skedaddle on out of here>Yeah, we'll be fine! Are you all packed for the surface? We'll miss you!>What are you saying?>You can't be serious.>...>We won't let you.There's your final Ceroba fight. That's where a grieving mother would pull out all the stops.>No. Never again.
>>695055869>>695056513There's a joke about how he cannot use exclamation points, but is apparently confused because he still has question marks.There's another joke where he reduces his power to turn on night vision, reducing the width of his textbox, and forcing him to speak in smaller sentences.
>>695057139Look, I'm gonna go against many people here but I don't think a downer/bitter sweet ending is something bad. I get it wasn't handled well, but not everything has to end perfectly like UT did.
>>695057436the main issue is its too jarring and makes martlet, ceroba and starlo feel out of charactertruly written by high schoolers and never got a 2nd pass
>>695057436I just described an ending where Clover still dies and even has to fight off Martlet and Starlo for the right to do it. It's just an ending where they care about him and his sacrifice mattered
>>695050163Twitter is multiplied by 1000
>>695057139>I'm going to prevent you from committing suicide by killing youI would post that one image of attempting to stop a suicide by pointing a gun at the guy, but I don't have it and I don't know what movie it's from.
>>695058091they could just fight him until he gets incapacitated like papyrus does
>>695058091It would require giving them a Papyrus style finisher to kick him out at 1 HP. But that in itself would have advantages; it would drive home how much all of them care that Clover keeps driving forward and they keep stopping him. Plus, dialogue variations depending on how many times you've lost like Asgore or Sans.Also the entire sequence would be the ultimate snub for Flowey, who has nothing to reset and can't understand any of their motivations
>>694949009so is this mod more or less pozzed than actual Deltarune
>>695059154there is only one they/them in the entire game and all couples are heterosexual
>>695059154It’s Undertale if Toby Fox wasn’t a literal faggot but more boring.
>>695059154Unironically more straight than Undertale
>>695056714>Martlet's still look bigger desuProve it
>>695059637Who's the they/them? Axis?
One half of it is finished, and also restructured
>>695062521Moray, though Clover also goes by they
>>695062521
>>695062521no, Moray
>>695062667Clover's gender is up to interpretation acording to the main dev
>>695054017>Especially Ceroba. The one thing she should have learned from her personal tragedy is that it's ugly, tragic, and wrong when a child has to be a hero. If Martlet and Starlo were 100% against Clover's suicide, she should be 200%. She's been there. The ultimate ironic punishment for her crimes would be to come to her senses just in time to lose another childits worse when you account that she directly reexperienced her TRAUMA.Like in the final boss we appeal to her memories. She remembers what caused this mess in the first place.The kanako shit would have been emotionally raw again. She would not have been a mental state that would have supported clovers suicide.And yet immediately after remembering, shes the prime supporter of the suicide. Like WTF
>>695024357>>695046502And gerson cant fully understand asgore either. Gerson despite his longevity is still aging. Asgore meanwhile is still the same.
>>695064382He is still the closest to someone who should understand Asgore (not counting Toriel)Whats odd about Gerson is that it seems that he only aged recently since he retired when Undyne became a royal guard wich can't have happened that long agoEither that or Gerson was still captain while being extremely old
>>695062318Zenith Martlet is regarded as the most attractive character for a reason.
>>695065391>He is still the closest to someone who should understand Asgore (not counting Toriel)true but still not to the level of hypothetical immortal chujin.Which makes hypothetical immortal chujin and asgore dynamic fascinating. Since he is the only one that would fully understand asgore. Despite their obvious differences (ignore toriel)I really need to make that fanfic>Either that or Gerson was still captain while being extremely old>mfw the captain of the royal guard was a senior citizen.
>>695065536I might be the only Martletfag who doesn't care that much about Zartlet.
>>695063926that's only because the fandom would eat them alive otherwise, but everyone (sane) knows clover is male, and the devs slip flowey calling him "king" in justice routealso the cowboy hat description in UT implies that justice was male
>>695065992>the devs slip flowey calling him "king" in justice routedidnt clover get angry about that?
>>695065992The description has a heavier implication that Frisk is a male, or at the very least wants to be one.
>>695066115You're overthinking it. Cowboys = manly. Wearing cowboy hat = manly = grow beard. It's a simple joke.
>>695066040clover has no reaction instead a streamer instead got flustered and went "k-king can be gender neutral chat!"
>>695065536I much prefer regular Martlet, she's got a big cuteness aspect
>>695066240I think they had a reaction.Let me recheck the scene.
>>695066215Cowboys are gay as hell though
>>695065536>is regarded as the most attractive character for a reason.Maybe on planet retard.
>>6950662401:57:00clover does reacthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai5hzSRDYrQ
>>695066876that's more clover being annoying at flowey's tone in general rather than specifically at being called king
>>695067096true but its still left to interpretation.could be a mixture of both.
>>695066335>Cowboys are gay as hell thoughThere is nothing more manly than having sex with men
>>694991652>enoughstraggots are insufferable, there's 0 gay shit anywhere>>694992147based, make him cute
>>695065992>that's only because the fandom would eat them alive otherwiseI don't think so, there are some fangames anounced that have human main characters with a defined gender, but they all are girls as far as I know
>>695068108>straggots are insufferable, there's 0 gay shit anywhereHe probably means all the lesbians, trans, pronouns and other "queer" stuff, when it comes to actual male/male relationships in Undertale/Deltarune I think the only canon one is the royal guards on hotlands, and thats mostly used for "no homo" jokes, meanwhile there is 3 to 4 confirmed lesbians in the main cast
>>695068596>tranniesnot part of the LGB>the restmemes written in just to say they're in, no western game would dare to make the main character outright gay
if chujin plan suceeded:-robot and boss monster army emerges.-robot and boss monster army attacks humans-robot and boss monster army get immediately bombared by missles, artillery, and air bombardment.-robot and boss monster army dies before getting a human soulwas chujin stupid?
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>>695065693Its not unheard of. High ranking military officials are often old as shit. Most of what they do is command, which greatly benefits from experience.
>>695070109ah thats right. Gerson could have been in such a position.
>>695068108Ralsei making a pass at me every five minutes, Mettaton being turbo gay, and all of the waifus being gay for each other is more than enough gay shit.
martlet:-is warned not to bring clover to delusional fox mom-is warned because delusional fox mom needs that soul-could have easily hidden clover and let starlo defuse the situation-could have hidden clover and ceroba would have difficulty finding them-starlo wasnt in any danger so clover wasnt needed there.-still decides to bring clover to cerobais martlet stupid?
>>695036430>"now kanako its important to understand that-">"nah im going to see why">chujin sighs as kanako walks outside>"COLE! what the hell!">cole looks at kanako with a questioning look>"you're supposed to be a cowboy">"oooh right. the kimono looked comfortable.">...>...>"thats it?">"yeah.">...>...>"sweetie id like to remind you that this doesnt change the fact that he still changed his mind on something 'defined' overni-">"OH MY GOD DAD JUST SHUT UP!"
>>695071160The underground's water is contaminated with lead
>>695071928>the underground is teufort
>>695072212>the underground only works 'normally' because of "its magic, i aint gotta explain shit"
>>695070109But Undyne talked about Gerson personally beating evil monstersHe wasn't just a commander
>>695072595(not that anon)he could have gotten a increasingly non combat role as he aged.In his youth he was a foot soldier. In his elderly age he was just a bueacratic commander.
>>695071160Martlet couldn't figure out the cup guys where a gang.It's true, it's one of her TALKs in the way to the mansion.
>>695066420By other way around newfag
>>695073028WhatI was aware that she thought chujins file on her, was somehow based on a different monster called martlet.But I didnt know this. Wow she really is dumb.
>>695070469>Ralsei making a pass at me every five minutesOnly happens if you chose to make a move on him>Mettaton being turbo gayA male celebrity that acts in a very flamboyant way? Thats an overused trope, besides Mettaton has a crush on Alphys so he can't be that gay>and all of the waifus being gay for each otherI can't argue with this, Toby likes yuri way too much
>>694950270So obviously this adds an asgore fight going by the ending. Now the question is which route did they add it to?
>>695073598neutral, an anon that played it earlier said you can ignore martlet at the apartments and just go to new home
>>695073557yuri is shit and dumb straggot fan service in most of these gamesthe girls get together as a way to fetishize lesbos and canonize softcore porn instead of as actual charactersthis is why side character yuri is more common than side character fags
>>695073506https://youtu.be/-q_bHORzdTM?t=603here it is
>>695073427Good morning saar.
>>695074156>investigate snowdin gang>knows this gang was harrasing people>find the cups who harassed people. And labled themselves as a gang>couldn't figure out that this was obviously a gang>finally figures out they were gang.>still doesnt realize they are the snowdin gang. And thinks they are friends with the snowdin gangwow shes genuinely stupid.
>>695062686I will fuck the they/them out of her
Where is the next Return to Form, Sig?I need it.
>>695075774>HerThey could be a him you know
>>695076085Moray goes by Fin/Gill
>>695075953>imgnumber one mother award
>>695074159wallmart aisle cleanout sussy
I still think Asgore defeating Clover should have been in the true pacifist ending aswell as the aborted one. It makes no sense hes such a depressed sadsack in UT if the last soul he got before Frisk is delivered to him by doordash withouth context
>>695075953>>695076480
>>695077319lol. saved
>>695074820Still smarter than roba
>>695077119Your already low IQ mind has been completely melted by too much Xitter and Pisscord usage. Stick to those places instead of posting here again.
what are the chance toby will get the characters of yellow in deltarune? maybe toby might interact with the saner people of the fandom to make it work
>>695078954>saner peopletoby should choose me. I have great ideas. Such as making ceroba the knight
>>695078954>what are the chance toby will get the characters of yellow in deltarune?0that would rip apart the floodgates of tons of fanworks trying to woo "toby senpai" not to mention the legal headache, you should never acknowledge fanwork if you ever made it, because that comes with a ton of legal baggage
>>6950789541% And only if he has a massive change of sensibilities. Deltarune is his thing. I predict He may throw in some lines vaguely alluding to creating art that inspires art, in reference to Yellow and the ludicrous number of other fanworks UT inspired.
>>6950789540%There is a good reason why devs don't usually interact with their fanbaseJust ask Scott Cawthon
>>695078954not only would it open the flood gates of extremely low quality trash pushed out for a chance at recognition from tobybut it'd also paint an unnecessary target on the backs of the UTY dev team. we all know how this fandom works, the jealousy would lead to much worse things happening.
>>695079165he already opened the floodgates by hiring fangame creators who are currently working on deltarune>you should never acknowledge fanwork if you ever made it, because that comes with a ton of legal baggagecawthon did it just fine, only one fangame had to be cleaned up and they were ready to goto be clear i'm against toby making uty canon but neither of these arguments are valid
The knight is revealed in deltarune. It turns out to be ceroba.How would you react?
>>695079676I could finally drop this shit saga that has taken an entire decade of my life
I feel like adding more stuff to the booru.Post Signirsol's drawings and I'll check if they are or not already there. Use catbox if it's nsfw.
>>695079426>pick up some big name fangame makers to help make their stuff official>one flirts with children and the other picks fights with them on twitterYes, I think Toby is a little savvier than that.Though he did hire the author of Undertale RED to work on Deltarune.
>>695079787just check e6, pretty much all of his drawings are there
>>695079787Which booru?
>>695079676>so wait you knew about the roaring this whole time?>yes>and why were you opening fountains?>to create a paradise of course.>i want you to think carefully about how those two things might not work out together>... i dont follow.>. . .>c'mon kris, lets ditch this dumbass.
>>695079854Sometimes I am too lazy to check there. The truth is that it is more convenient for me because I can just click "Archive Image MD5" to find the oldest source for the booru. :v>>695079874vidya pics
>>695079919>i want you to think carefully about how those two things might not work out together>... i dont follow.kek
>>695079854Probably not the boob sandwich one though, after the rule change.
Yee haw
>>695080172>abominable intelligence.get this tech heresy out of my sight
>>694950270i finished the mod. i fucking loved it, it makes uty a better game with all the new stuff. it also has implied momlet
>>695080159>after the rule change.I will forever be mad, so much good art lost, and now people are abusing it to delete anything that looks slighty young, the main victim being Kris pics even when he doesn't look like a child at all in those pics
which is bettermomlet or momroba?
>>695080457Stardad
>>695080457Momlet
>>695080457the mod convinced me momlet is the way to go
>>695080457ceroba shouldn't be allowed near children ever againmomlet also gives room for potential kanaclover without it feeling too weird>>695080747>>695080370did it have any new kanako content?
>>695080843nope, no kanako from what ive seen and i did the 3 endings
>>695072595He might be incredibly spry for is age.
>>695080843>ceroba shouldn't be allowed near children ever again>momlet also gives room for potential kanaclover without it feeling too weirdIf Ceroba isn't allowed near children, then who will take care of Kanako for Kanaclover to happen?
>>695077230Do you think they told Asgore "we just found this lying around"? No, they said here lies the rootin'est, tootin'est hero there ever was. Learning that a human child quietly up and died for their ancestral sins would have absolutely destroyed Asgore. It's one thing to put down a confused and violent creature covered in the dusty remains of your people before they can tear your heart out. But a child who not only refused to raise a hand against you, but would even spare you the pain of killing him?
>>695080457momroba because redemption stories are far more interesting than martlet cardboardbut this is the two digit iq birdfag general so why even bother
>>695074135>yuri is shit and dumb straggot fan service in most of these gamesDon't you pin that shit on us. Yurifagging is another form of cuckshit, which is the gayest thing imaginable. Even getting fucked up the ass is less gay than cuckshit.
>>695080971starlo or dina
>>695080457Momroba.
>>695078954The most you'd possibly get is a passing reference so subtle you'd probably never even realize it was a reference.
>>695080537>>695080620>>695080747>>695080843>>695081110>>695081248I personally support momroba because I find the concept of mother whose life utterly collapsed. And then being redeemed by the human she was told to fear and use as a tool. Well I find it fascinating. But at the same time, roba has proven to be dangerous towards children. She injected her daughter and tried to kill clover. Martlets only issue meanwhile is incompetence.So yeah for me I find momroba more interesting. But i find momlet to be better for clover.
>>695080457Martlet the bird mum
>>695079676I would laugh so hard I'd die of oxygen deprivation.
>>695080457MomoverClover becomes his own mother.
>>695080457Momroba. Anything other than the bluebird Mary Sue.
>>695079787There's a booru?
>>694987792I'm glad you realize you have a problem. ts!underswap is a much better game than yellow
>>695081090>Learning that a human child quietly up and died for their ancestral sins would have absolutely destroyed AsgoreFun fact. Asgore probably thought clover knew about the genocide plan. So from asgores pov a human willingly sacrificed themselves, in order to exterminate their own kind.interesting.
>>695080457Momlet, definately momlet
>>694949009where's undertail
>>695082403you're right. i need more martlet porn NOW
i wish ceroba would groom me
>>695080457momroba every day
>>695082489With her beak, right?
>>695082626dumb smelly birdfag
>>695082502Pictured here: Anon, his wife Ceroba, and their daughter Kanako 2.
why does uty not mention the genocide of humanity plan? In ut proper, most monsters associated freedom with the destruction of humanity. Uty meanwhile conveniently doesnt mention this. Or at least no monster mentions this to clover.Did the devs do this on purpose to make the pacifist ending secretly dark? Or was this a developer oversight?
>>695082972the devs literally didn't think about it
>>695080457momroba
>>695082972The devs are secondaries, why do you think we never get to the true lab?
>>695083847I find that really hard to believe. The whole destruction of humanity was referenced multiple times in ut. It was a very major element of uts plotline. For them to just not acknowledge or think about it during utys development, is really fucking weird. Which makes me wonder if this was intetional. And that the pacifist ending was meant to be superficial beautiful. But when you analyse it deeper its just horrific.Or maybe they just rushed the ending. Theres a reason why we didnt get true lab >>695084098
>>695082972>>695084367they probably just wrote themselves into a corner.clover's whole thing is justice, on geno this sways to "for the fallen humans" and on pacifist to "for the sealed monsters"him learning that asgore plans to genocide the surface would make the pacifist ending impossible.
>>695084562>they probably just wrote themselves into a corner.>would make the pacifist ending impossible.yeah that could be true. Though that just ends up creating a situation where starlo martlet and ceroba know about the genocide plans. Dont know asgore wouldnt do it, which means they believe asgore would do it. And thus starlo martlet and ceroba agreed with clovers suicide even though they thought it would lead to the destruction of humanity.The devs basically wrote themselves into a corner. But did it in a way which turns the ending very fucking dark.
>>695082972>>695085039I remember that Martlet talks about visiting Clover once the barrier goes down, but I forgot when that happens. Does she mention something about a war there?
>>695085224I dont recall either.But I would find it odd that martlet doesnt know about the genocide plans. Shes a member of the royal guard.Also a lot of monsters knew about the genocide plan. It wasnt like it was a secret. Even monsters like catty and bratty knew
>>695082403glands undertail
>>695085224>I remember that Martlet talks about visiting Clover once the barrier goes down, but I forgot when that happens.I'm pretty sure she mentions that on the rooftop either in pacifist or in one of the nuetral speeches
oh god. Could it be that martlet just didnt connect the dots. Did martlet just not understand how clovers sacrifice could be connected to the destruction of humanity. Did martlet fail to see the bigger picture.I can fucking imagine it due to how kinda stupid she is. She fails to realize things. Did martlets stupidity make her look good LOL(though even if we excuse martlet that still doesnt excuse ceroba and starlo. Those two had to know and understand the implications.)
>>695069832He only had one tail.
>>695071160Yes.
>>6950789540%. There is too much risk of "Notice me, senpai"-type works being made if he does that. Also the Undertale fandom is crazy.
>>695069832he also was doing all of his testing on himself, granted there aren't many boss monsters, just that any self respecting person (much less a father that wants a large family) would inject and extract random shit in and out of their body for the name of their science experiment.
>>695067096>low caps>shitty grammarLet me guess, you are ESL and barely 18?
>>695080457Momlet not even a question
>>694949009i dunno, i dont play fangames
>>695086408He even admitted that science was a dangerous game. And that he was worried that negative effects would happen.He purposely expiremented on himself even when he knew the risks. Which really says a lot about chujin.
>>695085506I checked, she says it on the pacifist rooftop, and doesn't mention Asgore's plan at all.Damn, that's dumb of her.I guess the devs got blinded by the hindsight that Asgore's plan never goes forward in UT, though Chujin wanted to attack humanity so it's not like they weren't aware of it.
>>695086701>>695086408I said this a few times already but chujin just should've gone all in into robots instead of dabbling into soul biochemistry, fits his character better. He wasn't a scientist, just a carpenter that somehow managed to make robots.
>>695086878his axis model did work. He could have built on top of that instead of pursuing a field (biochemistry) he had no experience with.But instead chujtard decided to self expirement on himself. And pursue a field that he never studied before.Chujin really was special
kanako, but obese
>>695087075Axis did its function which was kill a human, even if all prototypes before him failed. He just had to keep trying.
Thread is almost at bump limit so I'm gonna say now:It's kind of shocking how more plot holes show up the more we look into UTY, but to the dev's defense, you can do the same with UT.
>>695087151exactly. he had the key to sucess there. But instead he abandoned it.He could have pursued it further and made something good. He could have created an actual anti human bot that alphys failed to create. But instead he decided to pursue soul science instead.
>>695087180that happens to any story if you start to look at it too much for so longthough baffling none of the devs caught that in the 7 years it took to make the game
>>695087180>UTY, but to the dev's defense, you can do the same with UT.and uty absorbs the same problems ut has. For example the monster human war doesnt make sense at all. And uty keeps the same problematic background. (which tbf makes sense since uty is a prequel to ut. But still the monster human war just doesnt make any sense)
>>695087385>>695087180I hope DRYanon doesn't mess up
>>695087180A thing to consider is that the fangame started as an idea that wasn't even fully written that was worked on with the spare time of a few people, I imagine they realized that the game doesn't have a coherent story pre-Ceroba and scrambled to make one in the last couple years
>>695087449I hope so too.
>>695087326I do think that some stories are more hard proofed against it, though they are usually the simpler ones.>>695087385I'm mostly annoyed by the "monster soul+human soul to pass the barrier" rule that causes a bunch of holes in the story.UTY fixes some of UT's issues while also making others worse.
>>695087512The most important thing I think is that DRY has good character interactions, fun fights and good music. The story itself should be good, but its not the highest priority I think
>>695087642fair enough
>>695086878>>695087075>>695087254>>695087151Lets say he does go all in on robots. How does it inevitably go wrong?Personally, I'm thinking he sees what beat him for the royal scientist position and thinks "A robot with a soul, huh? I'll show them a robot with a soul." Then builds a robot powered by Integrity's soul, and it does exactly what you'd expect a killer robot powered by a sadistic murderer's soul to do, and turns on him.
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>>695087693>Personally, I'm thinking he sees what beat him for the royal scientist position and thinks "A robot with a soul, huh? I'll show them a robot with a soul." Then builds a robot powered by Integrity's soul, and it does exactly what you'd expect a killer robot powered by a sadistic murderer's soul to do, and turns on him.That would be very interesting. Chujin creates a frankenstein abomination that ends up killing him.Chujin is dr frankenstein and the integrity robot is chujins frankensteins monster.>>695087624>I'm mostly annoyed by the "monster soul+human soul to pass the barrier" rule that causes a bunch of holes in the story.UTY fixes some of UT's issues while also making others worse.Explain this in the next thread. Im curious
>>695087870I was thinking more like Gero in dbz, but that works too. I'm just imagining the whole "I am your master and you will do what I say!" interaction, but with Chujin and mechategrity.
surprising that this thread had a minimal amount of roba
>>695088039>"I am your master and you will do what I sayoh yeah thats a good comparison. I can imagine that. Would fit very well.
>>695088117birdcuck central
>>695087449>>695087512trust me, plotholes are my MAIN attention to detail point. even if toby makes it impossible to have a fangame within the same universe then i already have my own bullshit planned to make the game "canonically derived" from deltarune.i cant think of anything i wouldnt be able to write around.anyways i thought about it a bit more and decided that this one is what i'll go with for the preview bars of the battle UI, i'll mess with the color of the max HP (gray text) a little bit to see if i can find something more fitting.
>>695087870>next threadThat's gonna be in like 5 days.But it's basically how no monster realises that Asgore could absorb a single soul, cross the barrier and harvest the remaining ones, except for Toriel, but that breaks some things about her.There is also things like how no one set up actual traps to catch humans.
>>695088234no HP bar?
>>695088128Now I'm thinking about mechategrity. This violent psycho being given a super powerful mechanical body. This would make a really good AU,Also, imagine if Chujin found some way to survive being killed by preserving his soul. So he's still alive, but only as a soul in a jar connected to a computer.
>>695088325for the main part of the info bar.
>>695088279>There is also things like how no one set up actual traps to catch humans.thats what the puzzles are supposed to be, its just that the monsters are incompetent
>>695088234>no health barsoulless
>>695087870>Chujin creates a frankenstein abominationI get the appeal, but you guys keep coming up with ideas that are just doing something very similar to what UT did.Either this making Chujin closer to Alphys or the Ketsukanes in general being a stand-in for the Dreemurrs.
>>695088365put his soul in an axis body like pic here >>695086878
>>695088279I will remind you in five days since the thread is going to die soon.>But it's basically how no monster realises that Asgore could absorb a single soul, cross the barrier and harvest the remaining ones, except for Toriel, but that breaks some things about her.wait....is this true. I need to replay ut because thats a plothole I didnt notice. If thats true then its extremely odd no one else noticed it.>There is also things like how no one set up actual traps to catch humans.monsters set up traps. The better question is why do monsters not set up effective and deadly traps.
>>695088325>>695088427alright fine i'll go with this one.
>>695088387Why didn't Flowey make a net to catch anyone falling down that hole?
>>695088489That's fair. I still prefer the vertical hp, but I'll take that too.
>>695088460>If thats true then its extremely odd no one else noticed it.it's true and people noticed this flaw really early on in UT's life, it just goes out of character for toriel since she didnt want to kill any humans, unless she meant for asgore to harvest souls from dying humans or something>>695088489maybe you can use the gray and white numbers with a vertical bar on the right side?
>>695088460>why do monsters not set up effective and deadly trapsThe true answer is that UT was about how silly certain video game tropes are.
>>695087385UTY is about exploring the fact that the monsters did murder several children. They just rushed the endings.
>>695088612yes and that's why deltarune will suck because it will probably shift to meta stuff about RPG tropes rather than an actual self contained story
>>695088549>>695088567i mean, im still not the biggest fan of this one.
>>695088451Chujin is already Alphys 2 in the base game. He does everything she does, he's just worse at it. >Killer robot>Soul research>DT injection that kills youbesides I'm just having fun here. The concept of Chujin making more killer robots is cool.
>>695088365>computer soul jar chujin>superpowerful and pyscho mechaintegrityI would like to see it. Especially how mechaintegrity would affect the underground.Like Im curious how exactly the underground would change in response to this killer robot.Also the ceroba + computer chujin drama would be very interesting.
>>695088454He builds that one while he's a soul in a jar.
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>>695088885why did the devs can kanako?
>>695088567>it's true and people noticed this flaw really early on in UT's lifedamn, thats so fucking weird then. I need to replay undertale so to examine what you are saying.like how the fuck would only asgore and toriel know. strange.
>>695088718>Also the ceroba + computer chujin drama would be very interesting.I imagine the dynamic being like a gender swapped Karen and Plankton
>>695088927> gender swapped Karen and Planktonkek
>>695088715Axis was the whole murder bot thing that Alphys made up being played straight, and the soul research he did went in a quite different direction (and it was Ceroba who did the actual fuck up).But I do agree that the concept is cool.
>>695088692Like I said, I'll take the horizontal bar too. I just don't want there to be no bar.
>>695088912They forgor
need me some more DRY kanako
>>695088885what's the pink bear's name?
>>695088997>spoilerHe fucked up by killing himself and leaving his retarded wife alone with his daughter and the monster melting serum
Despite everything, we had a nice thread, anons.The janny can shove that autosage up his ass.
>>695089063Marley
>>695089013in any case its one of these three.i'll post it in the /vrpg/ thread since this one's about to die.
last post is for ceroba
>>695089375no its for them
>>695089415nah
>>695089432yes
>>695089509i dont think so
>>695089545no u
roba
>>695089625its all of them
