Did you use spirit ashes? Be honest.
The game was clearly designed around them, so yes.
>>695493669Is there a reason for why I shouldn't?
No.but I didn't beat the game
>>695493669Yes, when I realized I wasn't having fun.Not even spirit ashes could make the DLC bosses bearable though.
i used to mimic tear and beat the game.
Getting to a new bossfight>boss feels fun to fightWon't use spirit ashes, I want him all to myself>boss feels like a slog or just feels like a waste of my timeOh Tiche, come here my darling
No, I dislike summons. I also play MH catless.
No, I'm not a bitch.
>>695493741It makes the game a lot easier. In previous games, summoning was like an optional easy mode, instead of normal difficulty settings.However, in Elden Ring it seems that many bosses and even some areas are built on the presumption that you'll summon either other people or spirits to help you fight. So now, instead of not summoning being normal mode, it is the hard mode.
>>695493669Yeah but I can't find any good ones. I used the stupid jellyfish until I found the gang of greatshield zombies.
>>695493921>stupid jellyfish Fuck you! It is not stupid!
>>695493864>Singleplayer>No cat>Just you and the monsterPeak, and I getcha completely.
>>695493896It only makes the game easier if you don’t suck, honestly. If you can’t take full advantage of it you deal with unpredictable boss aggression and a hefty HP boost you gotta chew through.
>>695493972Okay he did proc bleed on bosses and tanked some hits, he's chill
>>695493896>In previous games, summoning was like an optional easy mode, instead of normal difficulty settings.Actually it was for jollg cooperation, because playing games with your friends is fun. Not this weird difficulty wank all you soulsfags obsess over.
No, and if you did I hope you had fun playing your first Souls game!
>>695493669No, i don't find them fun
>>695494162It was both. People used to complain a lot about there not being difficulty options in the Souls games, and they responding by saying that's what summoning is for. Nobody is obsessing over difficulty, that's just the truth of the matter. Summoning makes it easier, but of course you should play however is fun for ya.But yeah, jolly cooperation is very good too.
>>695494136>heAnon hasn't found out yet
>>695493669Only Deenh because he actually feels balanced. If he gets hit he dies in two seconds like a wet paper bag but he has a way of avoiding attacks that keeps him alive for a surprising amount of time and even if he dies he still provides benefit after his death with the buff. Fighting Malenia with Deenh is something else, the way he manages to avoid her attacks and the way he encourages you to juggle aggro with him makes the fight have this awesome pace that you don't get from any other playstyle.
>did you use a game mechanic
>>695494652I find that when I replay Elden Ring I usually summon NPCs whereas on my first playthrough I didn't. It seriously just makes the game more fun to have a buddy with you, especially if they have some sort of thematic story tie-in like Nepheli. Fun>challenge.
>>695493669The spirit ashes were cool but I was retarded when I tried to make a build around it by buffing/healing them on a Faith build. In 2022 I adored using the small pack of wolves, Lhutel, Ancestral Warrior and the cute Soldjars during my first playthrough
>>695494825No use arguing about it, it's subjective. For some people, the challenge is the fun part, but clearly not everyone feels the same way. Personally I used summons when it fit well like you're talking about, or just when I thought it would be cool. No reason to take a hardline stance on it one way or the other, unless you're playing in a competition or something with rules like that.
>>695493669Nope. Margit and most bosses after Rennala took me a bunch of tries. Malenia legit took me 2 days, mostly because I couldn't reliably survive her waterfowl until I found a video that explained it.Same for the DLC, most bosses took me pretty long.
>>695493669Iam glad that's the only piece of armor that shows some skinthats how how you filter ff14 players and the like that wants a built in barbie dressup sim in their dark fantasy games
>>695493669Yes. Tiche beat the game, not me.
>>695495663"final fantasy XIV is dark fantasy"
>>695493669Fuck yeah I do.I did it the "proper" way my first playthrough, then after that I started using them. Sending a pack of wolves after a boss is great and makes my Beastmaster roleplay actually feel legit. Makes me wish you could summon them anywhere in the world instead of just around spirit stones or whatever they are.Summoner builds in general would have a lot of potential in a From game where ganks are a common hazard and would be an interesting option to level the playing field. I would sure like it more than rehashed Weapon Arts and whatnot
Yes, no fucks given, but I do wish that they boosted boss health like player summons. As I got better at the game I barely use them in the base game outside of gank bosses and whenever it's allowed outside of boss fights. DLC bosses remain fucking impossible for me solo though.
>>695493669Of my four playthroughs, I had the most fun with them. Second playthrough I used all of them at least once, dying a few times just to try out different ones. By third one was only undead summons and was by far my favourite run as a necromancer
>>695493669yeahyou find new ashes fucking everywhere how could you not use them?
>>695494960I guess it's because like I said I already played the game solo before. I already know I have the capacity to beat bosses with no help so I don't feel any need to prove that to myself in future playthroughs. I never use player summons though, only the NPCs.
>>695495663I think you're just making up scenarios in your head, I don't think there were ever any complaints or any problem with the armor design not revealing enough skin. Everyone knows that the armor is all designed to be lore friendly and fit the style. People aren't going to be filtered by that because they don't go to Elden Ring to play dress-up and coom. Weirdo.
>>695493669Not until Malenia and I still haven't beaten her.
does this game have tiddies mods yet
>>695493669her arms are too small5/10
>>695493669Yeah
>>695496567it's like you're agreeing with him but still wanted to be a cunt about it
The only times I ever use them is for the Twin Gargolyes and the Godskin DuoHate those cunts and the sooner I am done with them the better
Only for the duo bosses back before they got giga nerfed. I used character summons all the time though because I liked fighting with characters.
>>695493669Yes. Forcing yourself to do it by yourself because of made-up gamer cred is turbohomo
>>695493669nope and I have taunter's tongue on at all timescan't git gud without stepping over a few (both own and invader) corpses
>>695493669Yeah but only the zombie ones because they're cool
>>695496027Mimic tear doing Gower's Ring cosplay?
>>695493669nolol
No. I tried making a character for only using spirit ashes and it wasn't very fun and the early shard bosses are basically designed to roadblock this playstyle
I wish Radahn had like triple the HP so summoning didn't completely castrate him
>>695493669Nah. For the most part. One time I did use them was when I was doing the Miquela fan club fight but that felt like it was supposed to be a big dumb chaotic brawl so might as well throw in an ash on top of your allies too.
>>695493669Yeah I did.
>>695495663uhhhhh
>>695493669I used ashes and summons every chance I got. I didn't even use mimic tear because my build was shit. I used tiche to carry me without even putting together a thoughtful build.
I love my dragongirl waifuYes shes uselessI dont care
>>695495663Non-existent problem
>>695493669Of course I did, you autists can cry all you like, but at least I managed to 100% in ~70 hours.
>>695501051No, I was saying like the other anon said. It's a non-existent problem. They're a schizo.
>>695493669Marionette Archers, I will never forget how you leave every enemy with 30 arrows sticking out of their model
>>695493669Depends on my RP. I always do my first run as Lonely Claymore Guy and change it up in subsequent playthroughs. Spirit ashes in ER simply means I have access to more RP-defining abilities, so beastmaster, necromancer, paladin leading his fellow knights, etc.
I've beaten every boss solo at least once except PCR phase 2. I use spirit ashes to get through the ones I don't like more quickly, which is most of the base game ones.
>>695493669I take Latenna + one melee ash that fits my build's theme, on each of my builds. Love Latenna.
>>695493669yeah, of course I did. I was using magic and having another unit take some attention for a brief moment made sense.
I feel like spirit ashes would have been much more well received if the summoning bell was somehow it's own class of weapon, where you had to build into being a summoner somehow, instead of it just being a basic NPC spawner.
>>695493669Of course I did. They were in the game, so I used them to experience all the content.>but muh challengeI did a no ashes run and a run for each attribute as a focus. Having shit defenses from low str and end is unironically harder than having no ashes.
>>695493669Spirit Ashes should be like yokai cores from Nioh 2.
>>695493669You really don't need to, a good bleed build cheeses most enemies.
>>695506336Can Latenna canonically shit on her own?
>>695508947Albinauric legs fade and become incapable of supporting their bodies. I don't think they're paralyzed from the waist down.At the same time though, they might not even eat food.
First run I uses the mimic for Eden beast, but since I have gone through all the bosses, including the DLC with my trusty DMGS, shotgun style is very fun
>>695509154I see
>>695496027Is thiollier being a huge ripped guy a parody of something specific
>>695509154They drink water, as indicated by the well in their village, so they likely eat as well.
>>695493669Yes, I also used summons and magic laser to instakill all the bosses. I beat the spinning girl boss that everyone whined at by spamming the frost stomp and it was super easy, it only took me one try. After that, I abused the instakill bug to murder people in invasions over and over until I got bored.
>>695513560Based victory-by-any-means poster
>>695513560>fight world's best swordsman>never let them use their swordGG no re ez
>>695513560This is the true way to play
>>695514052It just makes senseIf miyazaki let me take potshots at Malenia with a 50-cal sniper rifle, then i would.
>>695513560good for you, but you a gay nigga
>>695509214Sorry, Ranni. I had to ditch your sword and go back to pumping Vig, End, Str, so I could use the Solitude Set.
>>695493669How bad do you guys think most Elden Ring characters smell?
>>695493669Absolutely, it's really funny watching entire dungeons bounce off the greatshield gang
>>695493703you didnt beat the game
>>695493669Only in certain fights where they lock you in with more than 1 enemy. At that point if you are not summoning you are just kicking yourself in the balls for no reason.
Instead of each weapon only being able to equip one Ash of War, I really wish they behaved like spell slots instead with weapons as the Catalyst. You see NPCs using move sets of all different Ash of Wars and you only get one. Would else get rid of the annoyance of having to swap your shield on and off to use parry or your weapon ash of war.
>>695493669No I'm too lazy to talk to the spirit ash lady to get them upgraded.Me just endure and bonk with grafted blade.
>>695493669Oh my god nepheli is so fucking pretty dude
>>695515790The game is fine the way it is. Why do you need an even bigger crutch? You just suck. Stop trying to ruin our series. It's not for you.
>>695516180You know nothing stops people from doing this in game, already just in a far more tedious and less immersive manner, right? In fact it's the current meta for PVP. So I'm not sure what game you're trying to defend but it's not Elden Ring.
>>695516180>>695516279In fact what's suggested would actually make it harder since it would supposedly be limited by spell slots as opposed to just how many weapons you can carry with different ashes of war.
>>695493669There should have been an achievement for not using them.
>>695493669No but I dual wield UGS' with a great shield on my back so to each their own.
>>695516279>You know nothing stops people from doing this in game, already just in a far more tedious and less immersive manner, right?They can fuck off, too.>>695516549>giving people more access to broken Ashes makes it harder somehow!No.
>>695517070Yes. Because everyone already does what you're saying is a skill issue and limiting powerful Ashes of War to spell slots instead of just having an extra weapon would mean you can stack less of them on a single character, particularly in early/mid levels when spell slots are still limited. You're not very intelligent, are you?
>>695493669Only the giant rats because they cost nothing to summon and are funny.
>>695493669NoBut I always summon NPCs
>>695517416ER gives you a fuckton of spell slots. Letting Ashes operate like spell slots would give you a lot of ashes for basically free. Carrying extra weapons for extra ashes at least comes with the drawback of extra equip weight. So fuck off, your idea would make it worse.
>>695493669Did anyone actually give her the potion? Seems really fucked up, hypnosis is hot but identity erasure is too far.
>>695493669Yes but never Mimic cause that’s just boring. For me it was Marionette Soliders, Lhutel and my Jewish nigga Taylew.
>>695518130No, Dung Eater is the better puppet and Nepheli gives you a Smitty Slab now
>>695493669not as much as I want, I usually totally forget they exist.
>>695517982No. You're dumb.
>>695518667>I realized my shit idea was shit and don't want to admit it because it hurts my fee-feesDie
>beat the game without using summons once to prove to myself i can>use them for every other playthroughyou know, i wish you could summon more than one spirit at a time and sit back and try to keep them alive through buffs and heals. i really like the idea of a "summoner" build. might be interesting to have a stat that increases your summoning abilities, you know, something to actually invest in. but i doubt we'd ever get something like that in the sequel we know will eventually happen. summons have to stay as a sort really easy investment like das1 pyromancy for some people now i imagine. but then, who knows.
>somebody mentions summoner builds once>now half the proceeding replies are "anons" talking like they all have this cool idea for a summoner, beastmaster, necromancer, etc buildYou're all fucking botsDead internet theory
>>695519574as an android, i can say i'm a big yuna fan. i guess a flesh shitter like you wouldn't get it.
>>695515196The end credits said otherwise.
>>695511939That may be just for washing. The wooden Albinauric containment devices used for "Albinauric Alarm systems" indicate they can probably survive for inhuman amounts of time.Though to be fair, with a setting like Elden Ring where death is broken it's hard to tell if anyone needs to eat.
>>695493669No spirits ashes or summons, beat the game + DLC.Only bitches use spirit ashes on their first playthrough
>>695511939you can't eat from a well idiot.
>>695493669Of course, I fucking do. The game isn't entitled to me respecting it by adhering to some "cod ofe honor"
>>695508947>>695509154She's a spirit
>>695521528You can if there's fish in it
>>695521917He didn't say spirit ash Latenna, he said Latenna.
>>695493669I prefer to summon players but folks should. ER bosses are not like O&S or the Demon prince where the devs actually gave a fuck. I had way more fun doing a "all NPC must survive the boss fights" run in ds2 and 3 than soloing the bosses in ER dlc.
>>695493669I don't even know how to use them. I got the gist that there some kind of animal summon, but I just want to hit enemies with my sword
