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>tfw you play Xenoblade and enjoy your time well spent and you understand the hype
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You could easily decapitate one of them while they're doing this facial expression.
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>>696634635
Tfw you get asked to find 7 Enigmatic Spockets and you already had 6 but the wiki is down
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I 100%'d 2 and 3 but 1 was just too tedious in the postgame, especially area 51 or whatever the fuck that town was called as well as unlocking everyones hidden skill trees.
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>>696637589
Colony 69
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xenoblade 2 is the best in the series
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Am I the only one who imagines Z watching 2 Girls 1 Cup on repeat off-screen in his theatre?
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>>696637589
Somehow despite being objectively bad, the sidequests didn't really bother me in 1.
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>>696637937
You just click click click through and then they turn themselves in automatically
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>>696636757
Just pull up the archive.
It's dumb that google removed the cache for sites, but I'm guessing they stored a lot.
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>>696637618
>Colony 69
Kek. Never noticed this before.
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>>696638223
Exactly. Even though it wasn't really worthwhile content, it was at least pretty frictionless to check things off the list.
I played FFXVI recently for a stark reminder of how bad it can actually get.
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>>696634635
>tfw someone likes something you don't like so you have to take a fat shit on their face.
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>>696638467
It's just Colony 6
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>>696637937
Sidequests in 1 and 3 are pretty inoffensive in that you can just do them as you play normally and they'll complete themselves, 2 is the complete opposote in that the sidequests are really intrusive and force you to veer off the mainquest constantly.
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>>696637937
Honestly a lot of 2's sidequest were more annoying. They wouldn't tell you the steps in them so you'd just keep going and going and going and I'd be like "Can this quest just end already?" but the Nopon decided I'm a useful idiot.
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>>696637589
I 100% 1 twice (emulator and switch).
Did a fuckload of things in X but not all of it, I'd say 75%
Beat 2's final boss and put it away and refused to touch it again.
Beat 3 and most of its content+superbosses but didn't 100% all sidequests, just most.
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>>696638938
I mean there are only 2 colonies in the game: 6 and 9. 69
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>>696639024
Apparently you can get a house in 3 but I've never done that quest. I did most of them, though. 3's superbosses were really cool, I'm glad they gave the ultimate one a cutscene and unique track.
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>>696639052
Getting a house in 3 sounds fun, I'll probably keep pecking away at the sidequests and eventually do them all. 3's combat is messy as hell but it's fun.
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>>696639104
I think 2 had the best combat potential, it takes a very long time for it to shine. Overall, though, 3's was better since you get a lot of mechanics earlier on and there's less of a grind involved.
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This is your XB4 party
>>696639168
If only Takahashi wasn't retarded and allowed to use an expert mode in your first playthrough so you could actually earn class point in the late game.
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>>696639304
I was actually pissed when I realized I couldn't go down levels in the party menu. I ended up just switching on and off of normal and hard for most of the game, I did basically all story stuff on hard since I was so overleveled for it.
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What about X? How much survey rate did you have in X before you stopped playing it? I remember having around 90% Mira
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>>696639052
>Apparently you can get a house in 3 but I've never done that quest
I don't remember any such quest? Maybe that was DLC?
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>>696639407
I don't remember, but I do know I got the Ares 90. This was back in 2016.
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>>696639489
I think it was in the City, you got keys to a house.
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>>696639304
Yeah XB3's biggest issue was the CP. I like job systems and all but you could not ever settle with a comfortable party or you'll be wasting CP.
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>>696639504
>Ares 90
I’m worried that NSO online paywall will disrupt the flow of X especially the endgame, everyone was supposed to be able to get reward tickets with online to get the Ares 90 right after finishing the story, except online features being paywalled now means that Ares 90 is also paywalled unless they add offline reward tickets or change the mat requirements
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>>696634635
I bought 2 because I am a coomer and I like pretty lights and soon realized that it was something much more than that

Also xenogears, Xenosaga1-2-3, Baten Kaitos 1-2
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>>696637589
>100%'d the megaman pirate power
>1 was just too tedious
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>>696634635
1>3>X>2
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>>696643816
Holy mother of garbage tastes, it goes
2 > X > 3 > 1
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>>696640224
>I’m worried that NSO online paywall will disrupt the flow of X especially the endgame
Let's be honest, regardless of NSO more people are probably going to be playing than they were on the Wii U making it a non issue.
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Shame they dropped turn-based combat for low quality mmo tier hack and slash
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Xenoblade 1 and 2 are good. 3 is shit.
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1 = 2 > 3
3 is not bad by any means, it just didn't stay in my mind for long and a 7 party member combat is a mess when you can only control one.
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>>696634635
3 is not clicking with me, idk why.
I enjoyed 2 and X a lot.
X is fun to explore
2 is more linear and feels like a Tales game, which is fun in its own way.
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>>696637937
I just didn't read the flavour text of side quests in 1, i clicked through them and they were completed somewhere on the background afterward.
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>>696645128
>3 is not bad by any means
Yes it is.
>>696645269
>3 is not clicking with me, idk why.
Because it just sucks.
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>>696643816
I'd just swap 2 and X. All are good, though.
1 > 3 > 2 > X

I wonder what QoL and story improvements (if any) will XBXDE bring.
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>>696645269
First map I liked in 3 was Erythia Sea, more than 40 hours in, it just lacks the adventurous feel the other games brings, still a good game tho.
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>>696634635
Ok marketer
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This is unironically me
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>>696647463
>two year old game with no new content on the horizon
>marketer
Explain your reasoning.
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>>696647424
>still a good game tho.
Nah.
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>>696647701
>>696645798
>>696644975
every thread lmao
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>>696647838
Seethe lmao
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>2025 Xenoblade X Remaster
>2026 next big Takahashi probably Xenoblade game as well
Yep, feels good being a MonolithCHAD
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What were they thinking?
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What should have XC3 done differently so that Sena's characterization wouldn't be so underwhelming?
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>>696648864
I didn't like the reliance on Shania later in the game
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>>696635118
>t. Dirk
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>>696637718
If only I had the skill to make it real....
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>>696639573
So I wasn't the only one that was rotating classes like a madman to optimize the CP shit. In a way I hated it but it was fun trying to beat enemies with the most random classes I had.
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>>696634635
1 and 2 are great. 3 and X are garbage.
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>>696648864
One thing at least was make her ascension quest be tied with Segiri's character. Ghondor and Shania's stories didn't need Sena anyway.
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>>696648485
They were thinking KINO.
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>>696648485
Yeah, Idk what they were thinking when they saw that Ethel's costume gives titties to male characters.
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>>696650310
This.

You can cry about it being broken but chain attacks and even ouroboros were already broken as fuck.
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I feel like ATK L7 + capable hands is overrated. Like yeah, its good for farming, but I feel like they are a waste of skill slot on UMs.
I found my self using DEF L7 more.
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>>696645269
>2 is more linear and feels like a Tales game
Xenoblade 2 haters are out of full force today
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The Queen of Agnus
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>>696650796
More like the Queen of Clavicle.
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>>696637618
Just wait until you see THIS!
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>>696643816
For me, its 3>1>2. I have yet to play X.
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>>696643816
X > 1 > 2 > 3
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On the topic of Xenoblade, here’s a very rare music track: Piano X3’s unused alternate take
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s0Jtbyb2po
It’s a version of PianoX3 (Sylvalum) found in X’s files that sounds slightly different from the final PianoX3
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Will it ever be leaked?
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>>696639168
3s combat is better than 1s but it shares the problem where nothing you do in the fight really matters besides not dying until the chain attack is ready
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>>696643816
3>X>Future Redeemed>1>Torna>>>2>Future connected
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>>696653846
Who knows, maybe they'll recycle some ideas.
At least, they know their limits and k ow how to avoid scope creeping.
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>>696638747
>I played FFXVI recently for a stark reminder of how bad it can actually get.

and yet XVI has more gameplay than XV
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>>696654372
What dles it have to do with sidequests?
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xenoblade 3 ruined the series
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What will people who hate sidequests and side content think about XCX if playing for the first time…?
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Call Lao a retard and a schizo but I always liked how elegantly and succinctly he refuted redditma's "ackshually according to the soience humans are 99.999999% the same at a genetic level, chud" stupidity
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>>696655984
I'll say 2. Not because its bad, quite the opposite.
But it brought people who think that the whole xeno-series is a ecchi show.
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Biggest problem with XB3 is that the entire cast largely has the same backstory and circumstances without doing anything truly crazy with their backstories outside of Noah and Mio.

>child soldier
>child soldier
>child soldier
>child soldier
>child soldier
>child soldier

Yeah their individual experiences in the war slightly differ, but for the most part it's "child soldier experienced tragedy in a war" be it losing an war buddy or a commander or something.

Meanwhile XB1 and XB2's casts were way more diverse and fun

>an inventor
>his childhood girlfriend
>his bro who has his back
>his cool-ass father-in-law
>no personality boob mcgee
>a fluffball who's actually a middle-aged deadbeat dad
>the princess of an advanced magical civilization

or
>a bluecollar salvager
>anthropomorphized super computer relayer with huge tits
>a welsh catgirl
>a wise talking cat
>a geeky fluffball inventor
>cute and funny loli robot who gradually grows into a woman through later upgrades
>huge big mercenary leader
>the strongest swordswoman of a military empire
>quite and collected fire lady
>chuuni prince who's actually the smartest guy in the group
>his dorky sidekick girl who goes along with his antics
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>>696656301
>ecchi show
There's more ecchi in X and hell even the armor in 1 could get more lewder than anything in 2
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>>696648864
Her ascension quest needed to be about her of course. I think Sigiri's quest partially fixed it though.
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>>696656651
>no personality boob mcgee
poor sharla
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>>696656651
I disagree. Everyone having the same backstory made them more tight knit and made their evolutions more entertaining.
Besides, all of mindsets are differents, which gave us a lot of rich interactions not only among themselves, but with the world they lives in.
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Been going through Xenogears lately. One thing that really surprised me when playing it is how well done the cutscenes are, I've never seen anyone mention this when talking about Xenogears but they really have a cinematic quality to them that I feel is lost in the Blade games. Crazy that this game came out in the 90s.
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>>696656005
I assume they'll hate it or be confused when they beat the game in 20 hours while everyone else is taking 200+
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>>696657023
The main quest is that short?
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>>696657007
I agree with you on gears but disagree on blade. Look at any scene that isn't a low tier one with stock animations and tell me which jrpgs out there nowadays have better cinematography
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They should have reworked 3 entirely and made it fun to play. Also they shouldn't have had any of the weird looking black and mild folk in it
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>>696657023
You can speedrun the game yeah, but he main story survey requirements are meant to make you explore and immerse yourself in the world more, speedrunning the story goes against that and it’d be difficult for new players to speedrun the survey requirements in the first place
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>>696637589
2 is the most tedious one to 100%, it's not even close
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>>696649467
I mean, the game encourage to play this way .They even had the annoying "pls switch classes" notification lmao.
Sadly, it just highlight how imbalanced the classes are role wise.
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3 was an underwhelming experience on my first playthrough, but it grew on me. I probably like it better than 1 and 2 nowadays.
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>>696656960
>which gave us a lot of rich interactions
no
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>>696634635
>MIO, IT'S FEE-LEENGS
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>both were subconcious in the forest when MC met them for the first time
>both belonged to advanced civilization and tried to hide it
>both become a party leader for some time
>both are crucified
Why does Melia have more Elly's traits than I expected? Is that just Takahashi recycling his own ideas?
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*Is the only character with fully modelled panties in your way.*
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>>696634635
Honestly my only gripe with 3 was that feeling of urgency for the first chunk of the game
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>>696658035
>Lora
>Sena (even visible in the game)
Mionewbros....
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Which Xenoblade waifu you love most?
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>>696643816
Based objectively correct opinion
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>>696658131
I typed game, not games. Also, you can't really peek on Sena.
Meanwhile, Mio is free real estate.
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>>696656651
This is ironic considering that 3's party has the best chemistry in the series while 2's has none whatsoever
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>>696658442
They had chemistry, but it weaken from Vandham onward.
Man, I wish he survived...
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>>696656005
Its sad to think that people are going to skip all the fun of the sidequests just to get the new endings. You'll need to not browse here for AGES if you like to take your time and do them as you go like a normal person.
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=DjaRcwfosag
Have you managed to do a 1.8 billion damage chain attack in XC3?
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>>696658442
>3's party has the best chemistry in the series
None of them do besides Noah and Mio
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>>696658243
You can peek at top part of Sena's panties
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>>696658442
>3's party has the best chemistry
Noah and Eunie don't even have a real conversation and they are supposed to be childhood friends
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>>696658650
>Party's level is 99
>Enemy's level is like 40ich
Lmao, I am supposed to be impressed?
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>>696658831
Why are agnian women so lewd and cute!?
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>>696659101
They smell like shit in exchange.
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>>696648864
Actually fucking lewd her. Majorly a fault of the costume system of 3 but she got so little lewds. Her swimsuit was silly and the only good thing on her was the robot girls leotard but everyone got that. She had a nice body but it was always clothed and lame. Her Ouroboros form is lewder then she is its not fair.
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>>696658604
This is why I think the new story is gonna be a seperate thing just like Future Connected; while the game’s structure would allow for new content to be inserted into the main game, a lot of things like your choices so far, what quests you’ve completed and which alien races are present, and survey hexes for new content could make that difficult, making the new story seperate allows people to play it from the start without having to do the massive main game first
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Talking about remaster of X, do people really think that Black Knight is Malos/Logos?
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When will they stop killing muscle bound guys called Vandham?
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>>696659283
I don't think that'll really work in X. Unless they decided to do a large time skip between the normal ending and the new stuff it'll be weird, how will they give you a party to work with? It'd just be the same crew but already leveled or maybe even under leveled?
X feels like its extra story will take place immediately after
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>>696659283
The Nintendo winter magazine pretty much spelled out that the "additions" are a new story
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>>696659402
Pretty sure its completely out the window now that we heard a voice line for them and in both JP and EN it was someone entirely different. People are still trying to pull a "but A wasn't the same as Alvis but still was!" but I think that's just grasping at straws.
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The problem of 3 is that it leaves too many questions because Takahashi didn't want to spoil a future game and it's better to leave relationships between old characters to fanbase fanfictions.
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>>696659437
Lao and Black Knight (real name Eddy)'s excellent Mira adventure
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>>696656960
I do love that scene where they're reintroducing themselves to each other and they're talking about all of their small personal differences because it's all they could've had. Like Eunie talking about fortune clovers.
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>>696659437
Completely isolate the new story, with the only party members being Lao, the Black Knight and maybe 2 extra characters (like Kino and Nene), with only vague references to the state of NLA due to how much of it is shaped through sidequests; the extra characters could belong to other xeno races to fulfill the demands of having them playable, and they could have unique playstyles and arts due to it being separate from the main game
The only issue is that there isn’t any kind of unused map or cut content (like Bionis’ Shoulder) they could reuse for a new story
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>>696660123
>Like Eunie talking about fortune clovers.
Literally who the fuck cares.
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>>696660067
? So where's the problem?
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>>696660309
They do because it's all they have when they're all child soldiers. That was the interesting part.
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>>696660185
X has TONS of cut content, what you mean is leftover content that was left on the disk which wasn't viable due to the size of the game
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>>696660403
>That was the interesting part.
It's not interesting
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>>696660315
>t it leaves too many questions
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>>696660185
But X is an open map, any areas you can access in the new story would have to be accessible in the old one. Like they can't go to a new content if you couldn't see it in the base one. I guess having it in both would be a cool way for new content though.
If they just reused the same map but did a few new characters exclusive to a special story mode that'd just suck.
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>>696660123
https://youtube.com/watch?v=kV5znni1Loc
Did you know that there are several unused voice lines for Eunie for that introduction scene where she introduces several of her other arts as her signature move instead of Healing Ring like the final version?
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>>696660518
But that's not a problem?
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>>696660608
Various cut location names do exist within the files of X (original Japanese version only) but we don’t know how far these were developed, if at all
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>>696643816
X>3>1>2
People who have 2 first either had 2 as the first Xenoblade game they played or are looking at 2 with rose tinted glasses. I did a replay recently and the QoL is so fucking bad.
>field skills where you just have to pause the whole game, equip the shitter blades with the correct skills, then use it, then swap back to your actual loadout
>gatcha in a fucking singleplayer game
>time gated merc missions (Ursulas quest in particular) where you have to wait real life hours like a degenerate mobile game
>affinity chart
>slow as shit move speed in combat
The characters are very strong but moment to moment gameplay wise it's pure tedium
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>>696660886
>time gated merc missions (Ursulas quest in particular)
This one by far was the stupidest.
Imagine getting a character you like in a game and the only way to make them stronger is to lock yourself out from using them repeatedly for hours and hours.
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>>696660886
A lot of people don’t realize that Ursula’s quest exists because of the affinity chart mechanics and that her lessons are the shortest merc missions in the game and are meant for you to slowly progress the charts of blades throughout the game
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I will never understand how can anyone say XC3 is the best one. By far the worst level design and OST in the series. The story was very uninspired with a lame ending and the combat was better than XC1´s but worse than XC2´s. Even the characters were subpar except for Noah and Mio and i don't even care that much for them. The game doesn't even have proper towns!

Anyways: 2>1>X>3
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>>696660857
Its not that I doubt that they have stuff to use, its how it'll be implemented which would be odd to me to do a a separate story like the other games. A new area wouldn't make sense to be exclusive to a new mode if you can explore the whole map. Unless its like a new dimension or something. I just can't see how they'd make a separate story mode work instead of just making Chapter 13
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>>696661182
Noah and Mio are boring too.
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so 1=x=2=3 is illegal?
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>>696661339
NO YOU HAVE TO ARGUE!1
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>>696661182
>By far the worst level design and OST
>OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8Y-37ybYiM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHlt9dVAwvs
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>>696661182
>Worst OST
You can say many things about Xenoblade 3 but that's just false
https://youtu.be/SrfPn2hMuAk
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>>696661182
Didn't play 2 and X, but I thought Xenoblade 3 was leagues better than Xenoblade 1. I fucking hated Xenoblade 1, the plot felt too 'videogamey' for lack of a better word. Like it felt like an obvious 'let's go from point A to point B and do X, and then let's go to point C' and the characters all felt very lifeless. Xenoblade 3 had a way better cast, and I liked how it was focused a lot more on exploration and sidequests. The sidequests in Xenoblade 1 sucked ass.
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>>696661203
>A new area wouldn't make sense to be exclusive to a new mode if you can explore the whole map.
I seriously doubt the new story will be too long, 10 hours for clear 20 for 100% at the absolute most, in that case stuffing all of Mira in it would feel unnecessary
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>>696661462
>Xenoblade 3 had a way better cast
Lol. Lmao even.
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>>696661093
You can't progress the charts of blades with an actual design and story throughout the game if you don't get lucky and roll them first.
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I started replaying through the series to prep for XBX:DE. Just finished XB1 and had a pretty good time with it, although trying to get some of the Colony 6 materials made me want to kill myself. The ending cutscene with Fiora walking around Colony 9 and seeing everyone happy might be my favorite end scene out of all of the games
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>>696661203
The game progression is already tied around the existing 12 chapters, with sidequests and affinity missions unlocking after every chapter. By the time Ch 12 is done, all sidequests become accessible and everything you need to get 100% survey can be done. If they added Ch 13+, would it feel out of place if there was no new side content at all unlocked by the new chapter(s)? If they added new side content with the new chapter(s), then either they couldn’t count for survey or the entire hex grid and survey requirements would have to be overhauled to account for the new stuff, which I think is more effort than what’s needed for a port
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Everyone knows the new story is going to be sequelbait for a future game anyway.
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>>696661756
>they couldn’t count for survey
They did that with H.B and the other DLC characters. I can't imagine it'd be hard to add an extra node just for chapter 13 somewhere that doesn't go to progression.
Or even better let it and let the total survey rate go above 100%.
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>>696661462
>sidequests in Xenoblade 1 sucked ass
I actually liked Xenoblade 1 sidequests over 2 and 3. 1 and X had quests where you could actually fuck up permanently and get bad ends for which made them more memorable.
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>>696657007
Blade games are still good, but Gears was on another level
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>>696661964
1 quests suffer from representation despite having funny or interesting plot.
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>>696661892
I wonder how much of X’s original DLC was planned since HB, Boze, Alexa and Yelv already exist in the world and on the affinity chart, while connecting naturally to other characters in the world on the chart, and they also show up in the credits; unlike XC3’s Ino and Masha who are isolated in the affinity chart
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>>696657985
>Ellie is symbolic of Mary
>Japanese say Melia as Meria/Maria
I'd call it more of an homage
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>>696634635
Glad you enjoyed it, anon
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/v/ and reddit are the only places where you'll find people that actually like 1 and 3
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>>696637589
I 100% all numbered Xenoblades and their DLCs, but gave up at like 98% survey rate in X because FUCK grinding for augs.
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>>696634635
Don't worry about the future, it's all right.
>>696658169
Eunie
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>>696637618
Don't forget, Colony 6 is built on the Bionis' crotch and they're literally mining its balls.
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>>696665365
Huh??? I don't remember having to grind augs for 100%
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>>696665575
I couldn't beat Telethia and Pharsis with my build so I had to grind.
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>>696639573
>Yeah XB3's biggest issue was the CP
Nintendo would never
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>>696639573
>you'll be wasting CP
You a psycho
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>>696658169
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THINK YOU CAN TAKE ME?
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3 is shit. It’s “amazing standalone story” shouldn’t need a bunch of addendums and bullet points attached to every other game Takahashi has ever made in order to make it work. Also you can’t make a game whining about Japan not having enough kids while also trying to appeal to XC2’s basic bitch fanbase who just want more escapism and stuff to masturbate to.
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>>696663035
>unlike XC3’s Ino and Masha who are isolated in the affinity chart
I wish they had more content...
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Will there be any band-aid for online exclusive mats and the stuff you need them for to craft in X DE considering that in addition to being unavailable offline meaning that once online servers die they become unobtainable forever, NSO means that they are paywalled on top of that?
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>>696650796
The Queen of Minge
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>>696658169
Sexna
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>>696656710
And yet none of the characters in Xenogears, Xenosaga or any of the Xenoblade games look as bad as Dahlia.
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>>696658835
Dunban and Fiora are siblings and they speak 10 lines to each other at most.
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>>696660662
If you like garbage writing like Kingdom Hearts or modern Final Fantasy games, sure.
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>>696670776
So 1 and 3's parties are equally shit? Kek
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>>696670170
lol no, enjoy your endless grind.
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>>696658835
I mean, that not really a 3 problem. For example, Morag and Zeke stop being characters after their arcs is over.
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>>696671942
Noah and Mio are the only characters in 3 who matter and who have a character arc
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>>696671132
>>696672581
Stfu cunt
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>>696634635
3 was kino and Mio is the best
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>>696672772
Seethe and cope retard
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>>696672860
t.Noah
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>>696671903
Here it comes, the endless fight…
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>>696673062
Takahashi won. You lost.
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>>696661438
Yeah Moebius Battle is great, doesn't really diminish anon's point about the overall OST being weak.
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>>696670776
The difference is that 1 has hearts to hearts like every other Xenoblade until 3 which inexplicably decided to remove them
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>>696673310
Won what? 3 is shit and has mostly been forgotten.
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>>696673310
Go back to sucking Noah's dick.
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>>696671942
>Morag and Zeke stop being characters after their arcs is over.
And yet they continue to be human beings with their own thoughts who continue to have conversations with each other apart from the MC until the very last chapter, while the party in 3 just nod along to whatever Noah says after chapter 5
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>>696673625
>SLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURP *pop*
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>>696673719
Not an argument
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>>696673337
>hearts to hearts
3 still has them, but they are now integrated into the story.

https://youtu.be/ZuQaMHdlpSg?si=ck7LJiAq_isSe77A&t=141
https://youtu.be/cnOuhhspEtc?si=CIJXGx4D7M-zBeXf&t=139
https://youtu.be/qxLLOd_Sx7s?si=oZcNHdNv7j_bFTGS&t=31
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>>696674595
Clearly not since Noah and Eunie never have a meaningful conversation
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>>696674595
>but they are now integrated into the story.
This is the biggest and most embarrassing cope from 3fags. Like no game before 3 had conversations during the main story.
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>>696674845
?
https://youtu.be/xq3H5tG8-Vc?si=G29VcFZmYvj99R9E&t=82

>>696674976
I mean yeah, but I'm pretty sure the other games didn't have as many character moments as 3 during the main story.
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>>696675692
>the other games didn't have as many character moments as 3 during the main story.
Proof?
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>>696644641
2 is forever tainted by the gacha mechanic and skill checks that forces you to change your party setup.
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>>696643816
This sounds about right. In my opinion, it would be:

XBC >> X >>> 3 >>>>> 2

I loved XBC, it was the first RPG I played after ME1 that made me feel like RPGs were still a relevant genre. Great plot, great gameplay, graphics surprisingly good for the Wii, and a perfect soundtrack. X was almost as good in the size of the world and I'm a sucker for Sawano soundtracks, but the plot was a bit wonky and the gameplay needed more work. 3 was just okay to me, and 2 was a fucking nightmare. The story got better later on but I absolutely hated the gameplay every second of it.
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>The winds blow hard in December
>X DE doesn’t release in December
>No news yet
>Zero effort port DKCR HD is cockblocking the marketing and news
Just make me awake
Oh please tell me
Why must we face these hard times?
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>>696662206
If Square ever remakes Xenogears I hope they at least get Saga back as a writer and director
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>>696650312
The one that gives males gigantic ass was also funny.
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>>696676206
I don't have any problem with the ranking but what kind of fucking faggot cares about "relevancy" of something? Just play the shit you enjoy you pedantic sperg.
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>>696656206
>ayylma: souls aren't real, sweetie
>lao: fuck you they are, fuck you and literally fuck everything
based chudao not taking any gaslightning from space jew / humanfurry elma
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>>696658835
I guess you didn't make it to chapter 1
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I’m still worried I’ll wake up and find that the announcement of XCX DE and the weeks after that have all been an elaborate dream and I was just dreaming about a port/remake I’ve really wanted, the only other game I’ve had dreams about a remake was PMD Explorers
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>>696675692
>>696677979
Noah and Eunie exchanging a couple of lines before Lanz barges into the scene doesn't count as a meaningful conversation let alone makes up for multiple lost hearts to hearts that would have existed in previous games
And even if I accepted that it was somehow an equivalent exchange why would I think that it was a good thing to remove optional content related to affinity systems for even more bloated cutscenes, to make the game even less of a game
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>>696678360
In my original vision I planned Eunie to fuck Lanz and Noah during the bath scene. Then during ouroboros merging Mio would see this memory, get jealous and fuck Noah at a camp to make Eunie hear their moans
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>>696678720
die coomer
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>>696678783
Boy, did you join the wrong fanbase.
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>>696678720
sounds like something takahackshi would do just to force love triangle drama
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Xenoblade 3 story was unnecessary
>2 stated the merge was gonna happen, Klaus said it would happen and everything was gonna be good
>3 says "uhh well actually when it happens earth will blow up because positive and negative energy" out of nowhere
>Entire premise is to avoid this
>Create giant computer ark of Noah (for the 4th time in the franchise Takahashi) to upload everyone's souls into it and make clone bodies after the world merges
>The ark was going to be there floating anyway
Why didn't they simply get inside the ark themselves?
>W-well you see!
Also why leave the ark there in the middle of the explosion? With the technology they had it was easier to make a spaceship and leave earth while the merge happened
>W-w-well chud, they didn't know zed was gonna stop time
Yet they had enough time to make a super giant size ark to store souls into a cloud?
>You chud! How dare you question Takahashi!
>Villain comes out of nowhere, can stop time and have Uber powers out of nowhere because "well people in the cloud didn't want to die and they wished for time to stop, so it happened"
>Z had the idea to make people go to war instead of letting them live eternally because?
>Nopon are off the cycle because?
W-well chud, we have good villains!
>N is Jin 2.0 without anything that makes jin good
>They got so lazy with him they didn't even change his powers, just removed the ice, he really is jin 2.0 with the katana, temper and speed powers
>Other consuls were wasted potential
>X, an important story consul gets killed in a side quest, wondered where she was in the final dungeon
>Kevesi arts are 30 CD without a way to lower it on upgrade
>7 members is unbalanced screen clog
>World is flat and boring compared to it's predecessors
>Still no run button
>Still no moving attacks
3 is dogshit and I'm tired of pretending it's not, I even asked 2 forgiveness after playing 3
Only the dlc was good
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So, why did everyone forgot about punctuation?
This ESL wouldn't dare to lecture on another anon's english, but damn isn't it disturbing.
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>>696679000
anything past 1 was unnecessary
2 trying to tie into the first game was always dumb
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>>696650796
The queen of anus
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>>696679000
Based trips
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>>696678360
I feel like a lot of the fanbase wants the story to be fed to them on a silver platter via the cutscenes; see the malding over Torna community or X survey requirements, which is why I’m worried about the current Switch fanbase’s reception to X DE because the meat of X is not in the story cutscenes
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>>696676534
Our times will comes, just hang in there.
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>>696679461
Xfags will gladly admit that X's core story is shit, because the meat of the game is in the exploration
3fags will fight to the death to defend their garbage story because 3's exploration is shit, so they cannot fall back on it

We are not the same.
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>>696679461
>tfw "check out this massive plant" couldn't have existed in 3
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>>696679735
>"We", somehow treating the entire X base as your army.
>Missing 2/3 of your punctuations.
You are the saarest faggot I have ever seen.
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>>696679461
>Torna community
shit padding
>X survey requirements
you just need to do some basic exploration to get them and the game is all about exploration
hell, simply going a bit out of your way during main story quests to explore may mean you get these naturally
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>>696680384
>Missing 2/3 of your punctuations.
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>>696637638
Okay I'll do it, here's your (you)
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>>696680462
Yeah yeah, go back to your discord. I am sure whoever count as "We" will comfort you LMAO.
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Absolutely malding
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>>696656651
Based and true.
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>>696677586
Nice Senass.
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>>696680437
>basic exploration
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/701151-xenoblade-chronicles-x?search=Survey
https://www.google.com/search?q=xenoblade+x+survey+requirement+site:www.reddit.com&sca_esv=64a609d90a359d40&rlz=1CDGOYI_enHK644HK644&hl=en-GB&prmd=niv&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwigm7HbgJmKAxVpR2wGHV3ZMGwQrQJ6BAgbEAo&biw=430&bih=745&dpr=3
Yes irlt’s true and I had no problems with the survey requirements myself, but look at how many people got filtered by them and started complaining, we have to expect a fresh wave of this
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>>696679382
Alexandra not only has the best class, she also has the best butt!
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XC3's party is just too boring to be memorable. That's why no one has 3's party as their favorites.
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>>696680958
Let them be filtered by X.
3's story was still shit.
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3bros, it seem like our superiority is causing controversy.
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>>696681431
2 is still the best selling game in the series. Cope.
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>>696681131
I need X to do well and sell at least as much as the other Switch Xenoblades, we can’t have people getting filtered by it
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>>696681464
And 2 has the worst metacritic score, so it is objectively the worst one.
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>>696681480
>muh sales
You're a fan of things for all the wrong reasons.
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>>696681712
>metacritic
lmao
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>>696681740
>sales
lmao
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>>696681464
Twilight also sold well, is it the best film of all time?
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>>696637638
>Xenoblade Chronicles X is the best in the series
Ftfy
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>>696681719
No, it’s just that X is my favorite Xenoblade and I really want a sequel, but for that to happen X DE needs to sell well to prove that we want more like it
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>>696681464
CoD fan detected
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>>696681778
You wish 3 could match 2's sales.
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>>696681791
The capcom remaster practice? Did it ever worked?
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>>696681791
I guarantee you the sequel was already greenlit and in development otherwise XDE wouldn't be happening
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>>696681827
Cope bitch
>>696681880
>Did it ever worked?
Good morning saar
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>>696681791
Boy, you don't want your niche title to become something that the company just expects to be a 'smash success' going forward.
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>>696681867
only you care about that, i'm not a nintendo investor
sales dont matter, otherwise i would think nu-pokemon are the best jrpgs ever
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>>696681909
I am no indian hon hon hon.....
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>>696682193
Honest fuckin' truth, right here.
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>>696681867
Nah.
All that matters is Monolith getting funding for more Xeno.
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>>696681907
>>696682029
Does it sound desperate that I might want to buy multiple copies as well as get X DE both physically and digitally to show support for it?
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>>696676534
Don't worry about the future, it's alright.
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>>696658442
>3's party has the best chemistry in the series
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>>696676884
What I am saying is that it was the first RPG that I played that I felt was worth really playing through and enjoying in its entirety. Relevant, as in worthy of attention. What did you think I meant?
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>>696681712
Ah yes metacritic, where TLOU2 has perfect scores. Definitely a trustworthy source right there
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I hope they keep the 6 party members size. Its too much fun.
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>>696683014
I hope not, 3-4 is better.
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>>696682029
Xenoblade is way too autistic and complicated to ever be a smash hit, especially after the first game. There may be some other reasons, but that's the big and important one.
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>>696682789
I mean, if sales count as an adequate assessment of a game's quality, then reviews should count too.
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>>696683089
>IGN totally matters guys!!!
LOL
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>>696683079
No! Six!
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Does anyone have the webm or original video of the pokemon letsplayer shitting on xenoblade, plays XBC ironically to shit on it harder but is emotional by the final credits of the dlc?
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>>696683149
Explain how
>good sales = good game
but
>good reviews =/= good game

and while I agree, it's funny you imply IGN doesn't matter, since they gave XB2 a higher score than XB3.
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>>696658169
I love Mio the most because she's arguably the best Heroine ever
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Why’d Sakurai choose to add Corrin from FE Fates to Smash 4 DLC instead of Elma when XCX needed the promotion more, XCX had been released by then while FE Fates hadn’t and XCX was the better game?
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>>696683538
>she's arguably the best Heroine ever
Lol. Lmao even.
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>>696683508
XC2 has continued selling for years while XC3 dropped off a cliff immediately.
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>>696683651
Bro, even the baby think you are cringe.
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>>696683790
>even the baby think you are cringe.
Good morning saar!
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>>696683661
>Mio's final smash
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>Make the cutest hero SS tier
Based devs
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>>696683293
6 is a clusterfuck. 3-4 is optimal.
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Why does every XC3 thread feel so forced?
If the IP counter was still here there'd be like 20 posters here.
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>>696683962
That's not Segiri
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>>696639573
>XB3's biggest issue was the CP
damn i didnt know monolith were cunnychads
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>>696683973
>6 is a clusterfuck
This is why its so fun! Embrace chaos!
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>>696683962
mashiro sexo
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>>696683014
Changes in 3 that need to become series mainstays:
>Full party out at all times, avoids tedious party juggling (looking at you X)
>Water combat
>Dash button for quick repositioning
>Party setup saves (would be tremendous in an eventual 2DE)
>Revives tied to healers instead of party gauge, makes healing classes actually worth using
>Ability to switch PC mid-fight
>Beneficiary AoEs (Defender auras, healers circles, etc.), I feel like there's lots of untapped potential in those that could be further explored in a new entry
Also I'm still waiting for Xenoblade to introduce a gambit system. Maybe as a Soul Voices overhaul.
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>>696683083
Why can’t JRPGs not named Pokemon be huge hits? How did Persona 5 manage to break that trend and Xenoblade couldn’t?
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>>696684185
3 was the most cunny game
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>>696684384
>>Full party out at all times
Stopped reading there. Kys
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>>696684384
>eventual 2DE
2 isn't getting a DE, fuck off with this stupid meme already
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>>696684384
>Ability to switch PC mid-fight
This is such a huge one, I'm surprised it wasn't introduced as far back as X.
Maybe they thought it would be too OP, dunno.
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>>696684384
>>Revives tied to healers instead of party gauge, makes healing classes actually worth using
No and if anything this should be the first thing to go, fuck healers, nothing in 3 feels worse than losing a fight because healers died to some random aoe and now there is literally nothing you can do
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>>696639573
I'm baffled that no localizer or big hat at Nintendo of America has tought of telling the Japanese to stop using that as an abreviation for anything.
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How do I grind Child Points
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>>696684681
Why wouldn't there be eventually? There's nothing Nintendo loves more than cheap remasters with high profit margins
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>>696634635
feels nice loving all of the games, warts and all. can't wait for what comes next.
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>>696684681
>2 isn't getting a DE
Just like X amirite?
2 isn't even my favorite, but at this point it would be weird for Monolith to not at least do a re-release for its 10th anniversary.
I'm curious why you think it won't happen.
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>>696682609
>What did you think I meant?
Certainly not that because Relevancy has absolutely fuckall to do with being "worthy of attention".
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>>696684881
It's not a common abreviation outside of the context of internet degenerates. Take a break from 4chan and you'll notice no one normal calls it that.
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>>696684384
Imagine if in DE they tied reviving to Sharla because "it would make her worth using". Yes, and it would also make the game much more unfun.
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What do you think is the best way they could make the gamepad map of X work with one screen? Just make it a seperate menu? It’ll kind of hurt to not be able to seamlessly use the probe system while in the overworld
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>>696685084
>>696685116
Switch 2 can play Switch games, so 2 isn't getting a DE.
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>>696685429
>Wii U shitpad
>seamlessly
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>>696685210
Good thing 3 isn't 1.
>>696684718
Skill issue.
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>>696685678
>NOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO USE THIS SPECIFIC CLASS OTHERWISE YOUR TEAM CAN'T PERFORM BASIC GAME FUNCTIONS
It's objectively shit design. Kys healercuck.
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>>696685527
That hasn't stopped Nintendo before, they rereleased Gamecube games on Wii, like Mario Power Tennis. They rereleased Wii games on Wii U, like Twilight Princess. They rereleased ds games on 3ds, like Bowser's Inside Story.
But who says it'll be on Switch 2 in the first place? Will nothing for Nintendo ever change after the Switch 2?
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>>696685830
But they can? The games gives you one or two items that let a non healer revives other characters?
Again, skill issue.
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>>696685903
>they rereleased Gamecube games on Wii,
Hmmm yeah I wonder why that could be??? Maybe because Wii had a different control scheme that enhanced the original game???? Fucking retard
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=zb8QpABNTPM
One more thing about X, will they remove the “offline” icon or let you turn it off? The offline icon is permanently stuck o the screen while you’re offline no matter what, even through cutscenes; this XCX trailer demonstrates it best because the “offline” icon is there in literally all the shots in the trailer and it looks terrible
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>>696685925
>ummm but in the lategame you can obtain an item that bandaids this garbage design as long as you are willing to sacrifice equipment slots
Again, it's shit design. Nobody ever complained about using resources (team gauge/TP) to revive teammates in previous games, it was trying to fix something that wasn't broken. And ironically healers in 3 needed this ludicrous buff the least since they are already very strong, just look at shit like signifer. If anything it should have been given to tanks, almost universally bad in 3, if it was about balance.
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>>696684681
Is this the new cope from the "X isn't getting a DE" crowd?
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For me, it's Shania. She has the same voice as Momoka Sakurai from im@s.
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>>696683573
Because Sakurai’s a tasteless faggot when it comes to Nintendo’s own games. This is self-evident.
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>>696686348
X was stuck on Wii U. Switch 2 can play Switch games. It isn't the same situation at all
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>>696686586
I like XC2, but I’m still a little sore that there was an entire Smash presentation where Sakurai talked about how he played XC2 and was impressed by it while he’s never said anything about XCX and XCX is represented in Smash only by spirits, with not even one music track
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>>696686319
Brother, Eunie come with a Ouroboros art that revive everyone for free, the one tank class that can nearly max out the guard rate and the one class that is the basis of a meme build.
Also, if your tanks don't aggros, then sorry you are just shit at the game. You litteraly all of the tools to make them work, including swapping characters mid battle, but if you are too stupid for that then there is nothing to be done.
In other words, skill issue.
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>>696686483
very kissable forehead
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>>696686793
>Eunie come with
>if your tanks don't aggros
>You litteraly all of the tools
Good morning saar! Please do the needful
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Shania is the worst girl in the entire series.
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>>696634635
I recognize that face..
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>>696687021
t. ghondor
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>>696687021
Shania is bad, but Ghondor is even worse
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I Ghondor is bad, why does she gives you one of the best class?
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>>696687152
Shania fans pretending that Ghondor hates Shania is the stupidest shit. She literally complimented Shania's art.
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>696687128
dragonball spics really think dragonball invented smiling now.
what is wrong with these subhumans?
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>>696686793
>Eunie come with a Ouroboros art that revive everyone for free
More bandaid shit, this one still locking what should be a basic game function (one that, again, nobody ever complained about) to one character when it should be a universal basic mechanic.
>Also, if your tanks don't aggros, then sorry you are just shit at the game. You litteraly all of the tools to make them work, including swapping characters mid battle, but if you are too stupid for that then there is nothing to be done.
I don't use tanks unless I'm bored because there is no reason to in 3. You can stack defense on your healers and be unkillable in most encounters. A seraph spamming dodge arts is better than any of the tanks in the game, being better at bith generating aggro and surviving. There are powerful accessories and skills in the game that reward you for having no tanks in your team.
All the tank classes are objectively shit except for lone exile which is just barely decent enough to hold aggro for reasonable periods of time while surviving if you equip it right, and being simple enough that the AI can do it as well. Tank Lucky Seven if the worst by a significant margin. Tank Soul Hacker is the worst. Tank comps are the worst in the roguelike mode. Nikol is the worst party member in FR, Shulk would be second worst if he didn't have good utility.
>skill issue
I have beaten everything the game has to offer on hard mode, including the roguelike mode with most classes.
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Was Reyn that broken in XC1 to the point where tanks got nerfed for the rest of the entire series?
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>>696688237
Face tanking was always shit, Reyn wasn't considered good for his tanking but because of Magnum Berserk Sword Drive and topplelocking.
Dodge tanks, on the other hand, have consistently been great throughout the series.
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>>696688237
No Reyn wasn't all that good. Dunban was stupidly good, to the point where xenoblade 3's only decent dodge tank is Mio's class.
A properly set up Dunban is virtually unkillable.
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>>696687927
>Protector’s Pride: Boosts arts recharge speed by 50% when a tank isn’t the current target
>Intended use: Used on tanks to recharge their arts faster and get aggro back faster
>Actual most efficient use: Run zero tanks in the party so that the skill is always active and greatly increases DPS and evasion
This was a clear sign of the consistently poor gameplay design of tanks in this series
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>>696688715
Mio's class wishes it was Dunban. It can't generate aggro for shit due to its low damage. Lone Exile is the Dunban class, appropriately enough since it has blossom dance as talent art.
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>>696684718
Theres an item that allows no healers to revive.
At least one character should always have it if both healers go down.
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>>696687927
But there is no problem with who tanks works? If anything, its the Attackers who does obscene amount of damages?
For example, Rex and Shulk can be built to have about the same ATK stats, but due to Rex being built to augment his attack power via his crits, so he will always get aggroed in the end, and the lack of job system make it impossible to tune them.
And tanks are good in the base game too, even Guardian Commanders can get some measure of utility by using Resonant Flag to pass the Awakening Buff.
It actually did work on Ceratina of all thing.
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>>696634635
I'd like to play Xenoblade 3 but I refuse to buy a switch
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>>696648485
They were thinking I'LL TEAR IT ALL DOWN
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>>696689071
emul8
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>>696683573
Sakurai is a known fan of Fire Emblem.
He even openly said that he has used his relationship with Nintendo and//or Smash Creator to get Fire Emblem games before the release date.
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I can't wait for waifufags to finally actually play Xenoblade X instead of waiting for it to come to switch.
Anyone trying to tell you the story is shit is a gaslighting fag who should be ignored. X is the closest we'll ever get to Gears insanity but with even more Macross influence. The whole story is short but pure fucking kino and you'll be sad when it's over(though it seems like there'll be new story?)
There are actual cool-looking non-human aliens and they have insane-looking mecha as well. Everything about X is fucking hype.
https://youtu.be/pQtIVce8rvk?si=PLRLkgu8Pm3uY863
Sawano OST is just the cherry on top of this true mecha anime OVA tier kino.
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>>696685096
same
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>>696688556
Hugo is good in Torna. It was a bit lazy but they realized that for a face tank to be good it needs consistent access to something that guarantees aggro without having to turn the character into a pseudo DPS. So Hugo just needs to sacrifice some health and then boom, every enemy in the vicinity is aiming at him.
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>>696689259
How?
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>>696685136
Yes it does, please don't make me split hairs and devolve into defining the word relevancy as it pertains to videogaming at large.
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I would love them to had some positional value to Tanking. For example, block tank taking the hit for an ally, or a evasion tank causing an enemy to hit another.
I am sure its possible.
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>>696689773
I don't think the story is shit, but there's barely any of it.
When interesting things finally start happening, the game just ends.
It's like if XC1 ended at Prison Island.
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>>696689848
That's more of a symptom of his talent art only costing HP and having no cooldown. Lora's is also really good for the same reason.
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>>696684384
>Full part at all times
Like >>696684635 said, that's a retarded take, it makes combat a complete clusterfuck
3 party members is all you need, even in X 4 felt like too much
>Water combat
Agreed
>Dash button
Shit tier opinion, X already had the run button, I legit cussed out when 3 introduced such an outdated mechanic when it's predecessor had a run button
>Party setup saves
I guess
>Revive tied to healers
No, free revives are good but if they get randomly killed them you're out of luck
>Switch
I'm surprised that hasn't been the case since 1
Beneficiary AOE
Meh, it makes everything look to clogged but I guess it wouldn't be bad
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>>696688556
>Dodge tanks, on the other hand, have consistently been great throughout the series.
That's mostly because there is no drawback to dodging. For example, attack that always hit the target.
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>>696690348
Like I said it was lazy but it did work. The main problem face tanks have in Xenoblade is they simply don't generate enough aggro to be useful. Which is why historically the best tanks in the series are actually DPS who happen to be good enough at surviving (Dunban, Damage Reyn, Ghostwalker, Chroma katanas, Any good DPS class in 3 with three dodge arts, etc)
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>>696686483
based taste, for me it’s when she voiced pic related
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Guys, Elma has to actually be a Ghost, the evidence has been right in front of us the whole time
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>>696690459
Running in X and dashing in 3 serve different purposes.
X world scale is huge to fit in the mechs, so they added running to not hurt on foot traversal and exploration.
The numbered XB games don't have pilotable mechs, so those don't need running because the game worlds are designed around only on foot traversal.

Dashing in 3 is a QoL feature that allows quick reposition mid battle, but you aren't meant to dash outside of battle.
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>>696634635
Xenoblade is shit. Imagine being this easy to please.
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>>696691423
Alright, give us your favorite RPG.
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>>696688949
>Lone Exile is the Dunban class
And it has shit agility but decent block so you can sort of mix them but it never reaches Dunban or Mio levels of dodge.
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>>696687927
>You can stack defense on your healers and be unkillable in most encounters
Also in case someone missed this, there's another big reason why the reviving system in 3 is bad design. It's not just that it makes healers quasi-mandatory, but also that by allowing the player to have access to infinite revives (since there is no resource cost associated with it) it inherently lessens the value of tanks even more. Tanks are supposed to protect their allies while being hard to kill themselves, but what value does that hold when you can have a bunch of healers outfitted to revive each other as fast as possible (there are even skills that reward them for dying by instantly resetting the cooldowns of the WHOLE TEAM) pulling up KO'd teammates instantly and infinitely? It doesn't matter how much the enemy kills you, there is no penalty for reviving. This is why the gem that speeds up reviving is broken. This is why the best build for Nikol, nominal tank, in FR is turning him into a pseudo healer who just runs around doing nothing but reviving over and over. It's retarded.
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>>696691098
GHOST WALKER
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Thread reeks of /vg/ faggots.
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I kinda wish stats did more that one thing, or combined to give you bonus.
Like Dex + Agi = Double Hit or Counter.
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>>696692587
>since there is no resource cost associated with it
Reviving in 3 isn't instant like in the other games, though.
While a healer is reviving it is technically out of commission too. At best you switch to it, use all cooldowns and then go revive, but doing that also means the teammate that died stays dead for longer.
Point is, reviving isn't free.
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>>696660857
Origin? X really was Xenoblade 10 after all.
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>>696692104
Yeah okay but natural dodge just so happens to be shit in 3. Do you want the Dunban stereotype or the Dunban effective result?
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>>696660857
i hope they bring back undecided 3
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>>696693093
Revive speed up gem trivializes this downside, having multiple healers trivializes it even further.
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Xenoblade 2 is the best
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>all this gameplay discussion
if only a certain someone were here to see this... conveniently he's never around for gameplay discussion
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>>696693473
>xenogears import
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>>696693597
Sealed too

Also sorry, I forgot one
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>>696693371
It's still good because it has long artes and you can have that ability to dodge things during arte usage so if you're using the tank it's very good, but I'm just bitching because it always dies at least once per superboss.
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Why does only Noah and Mio get to be together after the end of 3?
It'd be like if in 2's ending Rex abandoned everyone else to go be with Pyra and Mythra.
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>>696693804
It'll presumably be everyone since the people of the City are destined to be reborn, Noah's just the first.
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>>696693804
Everyone gets to be together, play Future Redeemed.
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>>696693804
main character privilege?
but the worlds merge, so we can assume everyone gets to meet their soulmate again
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>>696693925
>>696694226
We don't know if anyone from the main party will meet again aside from Noah and Mio.
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>>696690151
Personally I think there's a lot of great story in XBX that has drastic implications on the setting and state of the world the characters are living in. They just don't make 80% of it explicitly marked as mandatory.

I don't get why people don't act like that's part of the story of the game where you're discovering new cultures and trying to integrate them all into one living space and having conflict you need to resolve as a result. It'd be like writing off everything between trying to go to the world tree in XB2 and ending up in Uraya, all the way to actually being in the world tree as not being part of XB2's story.
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>>696694259
>we can assume everyone gets to meet their soulmate again
Based on what?
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>>696693925
>defiance of destiny is core tenant in the first story
>a set destiny is now required for the third story's end to work
Next games in the series need significant separation from all of this, because this was retarded as fuck.
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>>696694451
The first game literally uses the line "seize our destiny" at the end.
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>>696694315
>noah hearing mio's flute and disappearing
>where we belong and future awaits lyrics
>the literal shot of the two worlds merging at the end of FR
>hopium™
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>>696694289
People didn’t like it because you had to go out of your way to get the worldbuilding and cool moments rather than it just being handed to you on a straight path through the story and cutscenes
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Finished 1 the other day and fucked up by not doing all of the sidequests before Mechonis gets locked before PONR. Other than that I had a really fantastic time. Also made Xenoblade 2's early combat feel a lot better since I wasn't a fan of it on release and put a pause on it for years.
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>>696694796
>>noah hearing mio's flute and disappearing
Yeah I already said Noah and Mio will meet again. We don't know about the others
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>>696695180
>We don't know about the others
why not? What's your reasoning?
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>>696694315
>Based on what?
You just have to Hope.
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>>696660886
I care little about "QoL" because I'm not a zoomershit. It's by far the best in every category that matters.
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>>696695368
>I care little about "QoL"
Then you're a biased retard.
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>>696695246
Noah is the only one who disappears at the end.
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>>696695270
I doubt we'll ever know for sure because 3's cast isn't likely to return.
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>>696695270
>filename
I can't wait to see her an Celica with unfucked faces.
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>>696695460
Not biased since I feel that way about every game. Keep crying. Modern AAA is full of "QoL" you should love them.
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>>696695889
H-He's fast!
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>>696695889
Are Heroes playable at all with minor modding? I imagine they would have most animations and moves needed. Even in 2, Blades apparently had unused animations and dialogue that imply you could actually play as them.
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>>696695460
cope and seethe troon
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Would you like main X2 story to follow something like the scrapped protagonist cut from the first game or stick with the create a character?

I think it would be funny to keep the custom character for side content but for the set main story character to occasionally hear about their wacky exploits.
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>>696696603
I don't like self-insert protagonists so I'd prefer someone written into the story, especially since Xeno always has very good protagonists.

I want a new female heroine. We haven't gotten one as a solo lead since Saga, though Lora, Elma, and Mio could also be considered ones to a certain extent.
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X could really use some QoL updates. Playing it yesterday, I realized that later games felt more satisfying to play. X has a lot going for it that those later games don't, but I would make a bunch of smaller changes to make dealing with it easier.

Doesn't help that the X datamine is incredibly rudimentary.
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>>696696859
>solo lead
>Mio
Retard
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>>696687927
>Shulk would be second worst if he didn't have good utility.
I'm curious what makes you value Shulk over at least one other party member after ranting so much about tanks? I admit I played future redeemed on easy because I wanted to rush through the plot, i've only always heard people complain about how bad Shulk is there
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>>696697242
I worded the sentence poorly, I was just referring to them as female leads overall despite them being mostly overshadowed by their male counterparts and in Elma's case having to share the spotlight with Cross
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>>696695889
Ha-hayai!
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>>696696603
Cross answers in sidequests are funny, but it's jarring to see them just standing there mute in cutscenes.
If they do bring Cross back, make them a fully fledged character. Games like Saints Row manage to have multiple VAs for the main character without making them a mute.

>>696696859
>I want a new female heroine
Yeah, I wouldn't mind if they just dropped Cross altogether and made Elma the protagonist.
Maybe make Cross exclusive to only online content if they bring that back too.
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>>696697085
Xeno Series Wiki does incorporate stuff from the datamine, especially for enemy pages
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>>696698493
It's nowhere near complete enough for my liking. The actual datamines have the information, but nothing is cross-referenced because that requires people to actually do it themselves.

Whoever was dealing with the Google doc for 3 using the datamine did a pretty great job.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1_a2F1ka3xvUKHvtmo5TzqLLAtZd7GQrOLvuoDUzN_Go/htmlview#
I particularly like how he has every Affinity Chart change ordered chronologically while noting which changes are missable. If I go back to do NG+, I'll use this as a reference.

2's datamine is also incredibly useful, particularly the event condition page. Once you realize how it's organized, you can see exactly what changes and unlocks every single time something happens. You view this cutscene in chapter 4, and these four characters have new starred dialogue, a character appears in this area, some characters get new pop-up dialogue in these locations, etc. and some of it is only visible for a short time frame. I want something like that for X. I want to collect all the golden info bubbles. I want to know when and how every character's dialogue updates. I want to do everything as it becomes available.
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>>696697283
Shulk in FR isn't as completely terrible as some people say, I think some people just can't help but compare him to Rex (strongest character in FR) and that inevitably makes him come up short but he's nowhere near as terrible as his son. For starters he can reasonably function as a tank, even on hard, for most of the campaign thanks to monado rage forcing taunt on enemies, up until Prison Island it's reasonable enough to land it on enemies, after that it gets more shaky because lol debuffs in 3 and the N boss fight and anything stronger than him is a complete no go.
But really, the reason he's decent is because he arguably has the best fusion art in the game: monado armor + slit edge grants armor veil to the whole party, this shit really makes your life a whole lot easier on hard mode and should be spammed whenever it's up. Monado purge + anything will remove all buffs from the enemy, removing buffs is not considered a debuff and will always work (funny how things can be good when they are allowed to work, Monolith), obviously this is more situational but very useful when you need it, especially against the double mech superboss on hard who get a really bullshit regeneration buff which will heal them up for tons if you aren't paying attention.
I would say he's better than Nikol for obvious reasons, but other than the obvious I would also say he's better than A, A just has really underwhelming arts and fusion arts, especially in the lategame she really won't be doing much of anything, her talent art is her only good art but you can only use it once or twice per fight and sometimes the AI wastes it completely. Her passives focus on damage dealing instead of supporting which is a complete waste because she will never be dealing significant damage past the early game. Lategame her main use is being a revive bot and dying to refresh the cooldowns of the party.
If you ask me, for Future Redeemed in general:
Rex > Matthew = Glimmer > Shulk > A > Nikol
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>>696699620
2's condition page for reference
https://xenoblade.github.io/xb2/bdat/common/FLD_ConditionList.html

This has everything, like when character dialogue updates. You can use this to see that before the NG+ update, practically nothing but a medal and title screen changed upon beating the main story, meaning nothing was truly "post-game" in 2. The superbosses would unlock after the cutscene where you entered the FLOS. And not only that, but you can view all the corresponding dialogue in the game by finding the equivalent text file names, though it would have been far more convenient if the listed text files just directly linked to that file instead of naming it. And by adding _jp after xb2 in the URL, you can view the pages from the Japanese games, so I've been able to easily reference the Japanese dialogue and point out localized lines or answer questions here. None of the other datamined games have their Japanese pages. Every game is available in 8 languages now (X will get Traditional/Simplified Chinese and Korean next year), so where are the pages for those other languages? The cross-referencing for one language would apply to all of them.

And there's even a page for all post-battle dialogue.
https://xenoblade.github.io/xb2/bdat/common/Vo_WinSp.html
Lacks any cross-referencing, but I know what all these numbers mean. Imagine all the voice lines linked to the corresponding audio files so you can hear all that dialogue, being able to switch between Japanese and English. And I even think of taking the graphics files from the respective games to stylize all these tables, just stuff like using the same fonts for text, transparency, etc. You could make an amazing application that would be the ultimate resource for every Xenoblade game.
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>>696694289
Having to go out of your way for the narrative is kinda completely against JRPG design as a whole, people don't expect sidequests to actually matter
Fuck if anything is a complete 180 from Xeno 1 having sidequests being meaningless little things that only exist to gatekeep you out of the late game skill trees
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>>696695127
I belive you can still get Melia's trees, she has pretty low requirements compared to the rest of the party members.
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>>696634635
I've been on a JRPG binge the past year but Xenoblade still holds a special place in my heart
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>>696702257
X can be its own thing, I never saw why it and the numbered games couldn't co-exist. Like I understand people who were worn down by Mario during the Wii U era because Mario getting closer and closer to NSMB while cutting out the creativity of the 3D games had been a trend for years. People were happy for Odyssey because nothing in Mario had really inspired whimsy since 2007.
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>Still untopped except by Nia nightly
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>>696695889
The Shulk Railgun
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>>696695889
Shulk on his way to Melia's bedroom (He missed the turn and he fell out of life as a result)
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>>696707920
They look like they'll all die single and unloved.
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Melia's daughter
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>>696703762
It can be its own thing but that doesn't mean the main story chapters have to be bad.
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>>696708320
ok
but who is the father
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>>696634635
Don't care. I'm never buying another Xenoblade game after how Melia was treated in 3.
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>>696708481
Left to get milk and got beat up by some street punk
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>>696702257
I guess, but it being really openly sci-fi just makes me feel like people didn't even try to give it a shot on that side. Mass Effect as a series had finished their trilogy for years by this point, and 2 stayed at the high point of popularity for that series as a game that was almost entirely recruitment/affinity missions for your crew. Xenoblade X does it and people act like there's no story, it's weird.

Personally I felt like it captured the spirit of my ideal Star Trek Deep Space 9 video game. Frontier outpost of tons of species slowly living together, tons of slice of life, with an underlying current of conflict against another race that pops up frequently as the A plot.
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What are some (non-Xeno) games like Xenoblade 2? I played it last December and want that whimsical adventure atmosphere again.
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>>696708829
Baten Kaitos Origin is explicitly very similar to Xenoblade 2. It's made by Monolith Soft, original was released on Gamecube but it got a modern HD remaster bundled with the first Baten Kaitos on the Switch + PC.

A ton of systems will be really familiar because they got invented for the game, along with general design and settings. Like even the back-of-the-box setup for the game is a 15 year old protagonist with an ancient guardian taking oddjobs to provide for his orphanage, taking place on a cloud sea and delving into the mysteries of the world and what happened in ancient history.

It uses really great looking prerendered backgrounds and fixed camera angles, and has music by Motoi Sakuraba. Real good stuff.
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>>696709271
It also has the same (jp) battle announcer
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>>696708829
Xenogears and Chrono Cross have a similar battle system to each other, and they both have the opposing element weakness thing too
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>>696708416
X's story is fine
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>>696709271
I remember the HD remasters getting a lot of shit when they came out. Is GC emulation the way to go with these games?
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>>696634635
I have spent over 3000 hours on Xenoblade 1, 2, and 3. I really like it here, in the endless now.
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>>696710535
This but add 600 hours on X (soon to be 800 when XDE comes out).
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>>696710661
not canon
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>>696711006
it is canon
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>>696710661
SMOLDERED
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nodusfm
blobcg
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>>696710661
They have such awful chemistry together but the game forces them together so much which is a shame because individually they have a lot of potential. Most misused characters in the game by far. Nobody even mentions or talks about them they're so forgotten.
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Takahashi has no idea how to write romance. Fei and Elly only work because of their histories.
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>>696711240
Nope, not canon
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>>696708829
Final Fantasy V.
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>>696696094
They can’t dash and there is something else they can’t do (I don’t remember what exactly). But you can play as them by editing save file.
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>>696685096
Fucking word.
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>>696709271
1st Baten Kaitos was unexpectedly good. Didn’t it become more popular because it stuck on GC?
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>>696713427
>Tfw can't find an acoustic guitar cover of Bringer of Chaos Ultimate
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>>696712238
It definitely got some notoriety from being GC exclusive and not getting a remaster until Switch, but I think its also on Steam as well? Games look and run great on Switch. Definitely worth playing.
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Delicious brown Xenogirls!
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>>696714013
Gerudo girls!
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>>696714013
Melianin........
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>>696714072
Gyaru girls too!
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why are Xenofags always so desperate for attention?
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>>696714013
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>>696714290
This white ass punk isn't my queen!
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>>696714013
Can someone swap the skin and hair colours of these cuties?
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>>696634635
i didnt beat 3
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>>696714572
Say no more, senpai!
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>>696715548
Not.... expected, but thank you for the effort
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>>696715548
Is it still racist for a man with dark skin to do blackface? Hmm...
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>>696715548
>>696714206
We finally found Mythra's daughter guys!
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>>696634635
That scene was great.
>How do you respond without sounding mad
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Xenoblade 3 hero quests were half the hero just kicking your 6 jobber squad's ass until they join or half them wanting you to like set up a production plant or something.
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>>696704614
Pyra being a head taller than Xenoblade 2 Rex is funny.
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>>696711649
They reunited post reincarnation. That is literal proof of being soul mates.
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>>696716258
Mythra's daughter being a Gyaru makes a lot of sense.
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>>696711465
People talk about Ethel alone because at least she spends some time by herself with the gang. The one with the issue is Cammuravi. Such a great design wasted on nothing, I'd rather had him 100% dead instead.
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>>696716718
Your 6 man team of veteran ouroboros stone boosted super soldiers getting 1v6'd will never not be funny. Just give teach an ouroboros stone, He doesn't even need interlink he'd take down ever moebius short of M with just the stand shit.
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>>696716965
the kid isn't canon
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Xenoblade x Crypt of the Necrodancer
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>>696717549
Dunban would never. Shulk however...
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I want to tease Fifi's body
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>>696717549
not canon
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>>696717803
Vanea's ro-thot holes are for Dunban's use
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>>696717885
not canon
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>>696717770
My little demon!
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>>696717770
>>696718192
I 100% bet that Fiona is a toe-curling back-scratching squirter
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Colony Mu was the cunny colony. Consul I was a cunny lifer.
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I want to play XB1 for the first time, am I fine to emulate the switch version or is it missing something from the original? dont want to deal with the potato faces of the original if I dont have to.
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Mio for Smash bros
>>696718395
Based
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>>696717549
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>>696715548
Could you uh... make her dark skinned and black haired like Taion normally is, and him white skinned and brown haired like Eunie normally is?
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>>696643816
X>1>3>2
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>>696718524
MIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>696718507
If you can emulate, go for it. The definitive edition is really good, I've played the original and DE.

For party composition, Reyn should have Sharla on him most times. If you have Dunban as your tank instead, you don't need a healer other than Shulk's occasional light heal if you build him right.
You're going to get a fuckload of EXP randomly completing sidequests so feel free to open up expert mode and decrease your levels some if the game is getting too easy for you.
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>>696718590
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>>696718507
It's not missing anything from the original and even adds a new epilogue. It adds some quality of life stuff and fixes a few glitches from the Wii game.

The main difference is that some of the lighting is changed in places just due to it being a different engine. Some people prefer the older lighting. Obviously the models of the characters were changed, most assets were remade from scratch. There is some minor things like the tree physics are slightly different (leaves/branches don't sway as much as they did on the Wii), but that's pretty minor/nitpicky territory. I'd recommend DE personally but I know a guy who is a stickler for the original release. Both are fine.
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>>696718636
XBX DE is gonna be so kino. Looking forward to playing with you anons
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>>696718507
>is it missing something from the original?
On the contrary, it's the same game, but with more content and an extra epilogue. One of the few good remasters out there.
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Next game should have fujo bait so we can see some fujo bate
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>>696719248
You already had Fujo bait in 3. Joran and Lanz.
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cutest ship desu
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i kinda forgot i owned this game
i got to the part where your fat retard friend kills himself or whatever near the end
is it worth finishing? i thought the part where n realized he was cucked by himself to be kino
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>>696720385
>i thought the part where n realized he was cucked by himself to be kino
that's the peak of the game, it's a slow roll downhill from there onward
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Limit reached. Goodbye folks! Have a nice day!
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>>696721104
I want to eat Pyra's red pubes
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I need catgirl pussy on my face
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>>696722169
This, but CAT girl, not "cat" girl.
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>>696693772
Holy based Batman.
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Zeon Caca.
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nick fuggers



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