So... game consoles are now 500 times more powerfull... and yet the only real diference between PS3 and PS5 pro is texture resolution and better shaders?That also could be done in the PS3?
Graphics have hit a point of diminishing returns while at the same time costing more time and money than ever. Photorealistic graphics are capable on current hardware but they're not viable at the moment the the industry is abandoning proprietary engines in favor of UE5 with premade assets and everything and ultimately halting down their performance and optimization
>>696922353Welcome to diminishing returns. Crysis looks better than most PC games, its from like 2007.
>>696922353You got tray racing, what else do you want?
>>696923073Something that doesn't kill my framerate just to recreate the wet roads effect from like 2014.
>>696923073that devs use raymarching instead of raytracing.
>>696923073>"Don't you guys all have phones?"
>>696923073>you got something that kills performance and manages to look worse aside from puddle reflections, what else do you want?something that is not dogshit
>>696922353First off, right looks a lot better than left or middle. There's an argument to be made they they've messed up the emotional side of the scene- she looks a lot less scared and a lot more fierce- but purely from a realtime technical art perspective, they're worlds apart.If you don't agree on that then we won't agree on anything else.Second, that's a tricky game to make this comparison with.TLOU remastered was just a simple port of the PS3 game. There was never any suggestion that it was even trying to get the most out of the PS4.And the "Part 1" remake would absolutely have been possible on PS4. Pic related is TLOU2 on a base PS4.TLOU2 looks drastically better than TLOU1, so I'd actually say there was a huge jump from "best graphics achievable on a PS3" to "best graphics achievable on a PS4".As for the PS5, I'd say the AVERAGE PS5 game looks a lot better than the average PS4 game, but at the high end there hasn't really been a jump yet. I'd argue there's no PS5 game that looks better than TLOU2.But the best-looking games always come towards the end of a generation, so we won't really be able to judge that until the PS6 is nearly out.
>>696924010is this leddit pasta?
>>696924010Kys nigger. They all look the same with minimal differences. Consider Quake released merely 3 years after doom and stfu.
>>696924010>you need to look closely at a 4K screen to see the diference in pixelslmao retard.
>>696922905Goddamn, it's been 17 years, the same distance between these two:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_3PybFX7Xkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2edaDpLsS0
>>696924208I won't compare it to doom vs quake, but it's still a huge jump.>>696924356No, you definitely don't need 4K. 1080p is more than enough to appreciate TLOU2 (and the part 1 remake) vs the original.I actually think higher resolutions, and even framerates, can be a bit counterproductive for games like this. TLOU2 at 1080p30 with its default heavy film grain looks outstanding and has a similar vibe to 16mm film. If you play it on PS5 you can change it to 4K60 with no film grain, but I'm not sure it actually looks better overall. It's sharper but that also means you can see the limitations more clearly.
>>696925370laughing at how ugly that literal kike propaganda it is can hardly be called "appreciating"
>>696922353Why they change her expression
>>696922353
>>696925528Because she looked scared in the old version, and in the Current Year™ that's problematic.
Is the one on the right actually the resolution it is on PS5? I'd imagine you would just notice the raw different from how less blurry the resolution would look. Though the cutscenes on PS3 TLOU rendered with higher resolution, and better quality models, than ones found in regular gameplay. ND always does that
>>696925370No, it's not. Quake vs doom is a jump in term of having actual 3d graphics, smooth movement with jumping and free mouselook, better audio and more complex levels with verticality to them. Again, merely 3 years.The same graphics but slightly different is not a "jump" in the slightest.
>>696922353the thing with getting closer and closer enough to realistic-looking, is once you're pretty close even if you have exponentionally more verts and several times higher texture resolution, you won't see the difference in most things unless you take a fucking microscope up to it. this was always gonna happen that realistic stuff will all just.. look realistic, successfully. so really what the scene begs for are people who are creative enough to make non-realistic settings and designs and chars.
reminder
>>696922353why the fuck are her eyes bigger in the remaster than both the original and remaster^2
>>696922353she's getting uglier with every new iteration.
>>696922353>worse facial expressions>worse lighting>worse textures on her jacket and hairThe collapse of Naughty Dog can be traced back to Hennig's firing>>696922670>abandoning proprietary enginesGot it in one, game dev is so fucking cheap that anyone intelligent and driven enough to maximize current hardware isn't working in the industry. We're far past the days when devs actually understood the tools they were using to make games
>>696925845Have you played TLOU1 (not "part 1") and TLOU2? It's difficult to believe that you have. The latter is far beyond anything that could have been done on PS3, in basically every way and at all times.
>>696927164oh wow, le grass has some more detail, amazingsome sign is readable if you squint to read the pixels, truly groundbreaking territory heremeanwhile the gameplay still has less depth than RE1 on the PS1
>>696927865So you haven't. I recommend them both if you get the chance.
>>696927943i see nothing you can't do with baked in textures and a few god rays pngshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im0t1XPzzCs
>>696922353I feel like the reason snoy has been pushing graphical fidelity over art direction is because they know they can't retain whatever talent they have, but they can always push how much skin pores or tree leaves in the background to sell their consoles. In actuality the consumer couldn't notice jack shit past a certain point yet their game development cost ballooned thanks to this mindset
>>696922353In PS3 era they had power deficiency so they had to compensate with god tier coding.In PS5 era they have power excess so they're compensating shit tier coding with raw power.
>>696927943>I recomme..no one asked
>>696922353>the PS3 one still looks betterthe absolute state of the gayming industry
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>>696922353>compares consoles for graphical leaps>consoles can't even do 4k
>>696922353We don't see any graphical improvements exactly because consoles are garage. Not hard to be 500 times more powerful when you start with a wet turd. Graphical improvement is hindered by every game being multiplat to maximize profits.
We never needed better graphics than the PS3 or even the PS2 with higher resolution on emulators
>>696926065Not defending modern slop but no one was getting 60fps at 1080 on crysis in 2007
>>696922353TLOU ran like absolute dogshit dipping as low as 15FPS on PS3
>>696922353If you think graphics haven’t improved you’re not paying attention or playing new games, probably both knowing this place.
>>696927164Oh wow ps3 graphics 2.0Clearly the same thing as the difference between half life and half life 2
>>696928806>>696928230
>>696922353>no improvements>posts a screenshot of a big improvement in the same gameHow can one OP own himself this much?
>>696929220Where's the "big improvement"?
>>696922353It actually looks worse and she got angry for no reason now
>>696922353Game one the left ran at 640p capped at 30 fps with drops down to 15Also path tracing is the big new advancements but retards are shitting on ot becauae they cant afford the hardware required
>>696926065Crysis 1 ran at 30fps 1680x1050 if you had top of the line hardware costing 2000 dollars in todays money
>>696929614The entire thing. The hair looks better, the skin texture and light mapping. The eyes look 100x more real. The model clearly has more polys/detail. Can't see it in the SS but it also animates a lot better.
>>696922905well if diminishing returns, why don't they stop trying to push for MOAR POLYGONZ and instead focus on making 4K and 60fps as base?
>>696930260you can make the left looks like the right with fucking shaders, lmao.
>>696922353why are you lying though?
>>696928159this. I'm glad the PS4 was also underpowered so that devs had to make games look good on underpowered hardware which meant that they had to optimize the games better, which is why have games like RDR2 being able to run at 4K60 with just a 2060.
>>696924010According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way that a bee should be able to fly. Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground. The bee, of course, flies anyways. Because bees don't care what humans think is impossible.
>>696930426Prove it
>>696930057and today it still looks better than anything on the market right now while using modern budget hardware
>>696930495pic related is a low poly model.
>>696922353But the lighting is slightly more realistic. Surely, this is worth losing 75% of your FPS for.
>>696922353jeez maybe people shouldn't buy themoh wait they do! Guess that's what people want
>>696930584But it doesn't though. It gets absolutely shat on by a CoD game from 2016 that was made for consoles.
>>696923073ray tracing is fucking dogshitI'm so tired of devs and publishers relying on just making everything hyper-photorealistic instead of even trying to go for a decent artstyle that looks remotely interesting, if you want hyperrealism you can literally take a walk outside. Okami graphically mogs most AAA games that release today and it's not close
>>696930658Yes, I can tell lmao
>>696930759?
>>696929828>Game one the left ran at 640p capped at 30 fps with drops down to 15The game also used different, higher quality models for cutscenes on PS3. If you zoom-in on a character during actual gameplay, it looks way worse.The PS4 port uses those higher quality models for gameplay too.
>>696930260https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99wMESQG9Jsno the fuck it does not and certainly not worth paying another 70 dollarydoos for
>>696931079>another 70 dollarydoos for800 plus the game itself
>>696930260It's PS3 graphics 1.5, mate.
>>696931079>posts a video proving me rightlmao you fucking retard did you even watch it?
>>696922670Someone post the diminishing returns pic with the beethoven statue
>>696931273>proving me rightif you're a mongoloid and think "LOOK AT ALL THE FOG AND REALISTIC LIGHTING COVERING THE SHIT OUT OF EVERYTHING BUT 0.2 FASTER CUTSCENES AND YOU CAN SEE THE PORES ON ELLIE'S FACE" is better surecertainly not worth the asking price for what is essentially the exact same game except any form of intentional artistic design is stripped from it for the sake of being more 'realistic' when it was completely unnecessary and actively detracts from the game's visuals
>>696930918oh fuck, guess op was wrong
>>696922353Where did the snow/frost in her hair and on her clothes go in the PS5 version?
>>696922353Not only are the graphics barely improved, but the whole selling point of the new console is that you get to buy the same game over and over with barely improved graphics.
>>696931079Its not for you, its for people who never played it. They just upped the graphics a little so they can have an excuse for selling a 10 year old game at 70 bux instead of 25
>>696931570It doesn't matter what your shit opinion is and whether you think it's worth it. The fact is the remake looks so much fucking better there is no argument. You're literally fucking blind, and retarded.
>>696930428genuinely no better than 13 on PC all static crap. cutscenes ware better still nowhere near CG quality of 13
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>>696933149lmao I just can't take you seriously
>>696922353show me a game that looks better than this please do not respond without a ss of a game looking better
>>696931354It always catches retards here
>>696933537you better.
>>696923748>looks worseBut but but that fag from Digital Foundry said it looks more realistic and therefore better! How dare you
>>69693366113 looked great at the time, but there is no way in hell that it even comes close to looking as good as 16. Even you don't believe that.
>>6969300578800 gt costed the equiv of a current amd gpu though but a little less. More if you got ultra which was not needed. Difference is you got true resolution instead of fake shit like today.
>>696930761"4k"
>>696933786It does except for cutscenes unless you want to count 13's CG.
>>69693378616 looks flat as fuck in comparison. Art direction > all
>>696933864"yes"
>>696928984Let it be known all of these people can never be trusted (and should never have been) again
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>>696922670it's honestly insane how the 3060 can't handle anything being released, it's one of the most popular cards alongside the 1060/2060 and yet they make games for graphics card and CPU's that don't exist yet, it's worse than crysis because at least i could play that at a lower resolution/low settings and those settings actually meant something>turn down graphics of modern game>looks essentially the same and you don't get any performance gainsor what usually happens>make the game look like utter trash because you don't give a SINGLE SHIT about how it looks on low settings and just fuck all the textures to lowest while not actually optimizing it so not only does it look like low budget trash that can't even be discerned, it's also only running an extra 5 frames
>>696933907Lmao you're a fucking idiot
DUDE REALISTIC GRAPHICS
>>696934124Wow look at all that grey, you've completely changed my mind. I hope you accept my concession
>DUDE, GAME IS BETTER BECAUSE IS MORE REALISTICFFXII looks better than most current realistic graphical garbage.
>>696934236with the way modern day is going who fucking cares about graphics? you literally can't see shit unless you're doing 4k and even then the hardware can't keep upvisual clarity is at an all time low, just look at the garbage foliage in Stalker 2. yeah it looks pretty but who fucking cares when all i remember it doing is being a pain in my ass when bandits spawn on top of me and i can't see shit
>>696934359>it's supposed to be neon green and red inside a hurricane
>>696928061>i see nothingThe only thing you said that is true.
>>696925492Kys nigger cuck, in Part I when in Lincoln you go intoa church and you can't shot shit either.Drink more propaganda you useless brainrot puppet.
>>696922670pic related is what finally killed U5 for me>low fidelity graphics inspired by recent boomer shooter revival>but cant get over 50 FPS in a 5 year old GPU(gtx 1650)>apply the same engine tweaks as those STALKER 2 mods>FPS soars to 90mandatory gaytracing is a fucking meme
>>696934650yes, that would be kino
>>696933276That looks like shit
>>696927164>Have you played [game]lmao you must be lost anon
>>696934094>2060>3060Those cards wish they were the equivalent to the 1060. The 1080 Ti absolutely mogs both of those scams.
>>696935196yeah the 1060 3gb held on for so fucking long it's insane, it's still working to this day and i usually just play indie games or stellaris so it's not even a big deal
This is exactly what I and many others predicted. investing in higher and higher graphical fidelity for every new generation eventually reaches a breaking point where you spend billions to get very minimal, almost imperceptible improvements.People always shit on them for being behind the times, but I honestly feel like Nintendos strategy is the best. If their switch successor does have similar power to a PS4 pro as rumored, and nintendo can still keep the price of their hardware relatively down, it would seemingly be a classic tortoise and the hare story. Slow and steady wins the race.
>>696934828yeah, it's so they can try and force consumers to buy new cards even if it isn't a graphically impressive game, it's hardware built now, you LITERALLY don't have the hardware to run some of these games because developers are being bribed to essentially only allow newer cards to 'function well'>game still runs like shit on newest hardware
>>696935420also nintendo console is much cheaper than the competition.a lot of people simply are poor.
>>696933587Better than Indy?
>>696935465>developers are being bribed to essentially only allow newer cards to 'function well'this is a 10 dollar indie game that barely made any traction, i dont think the developers are being bribed by anyone for any reason
>>696935641>>696935465samefagging here. buuuut that makes a lot of sense for big AAA companies though
>>696935641>developers are also lazy cunts who play with framegen, upscaling, with insane input delay and stutters only to turn around and say>'yeah, this runs great'
Watching a character from behind while they walk around in a photorealistic world is so immersive, it's just like being in a movie theater. amirate gaymers?
>>696922353poorfag general?
>>6969353291060 3 gb was more like a 1050ti desu1060 6 gb still is good today though
>>696935493you are also forgetting a switch doesn't overlap with a PC as hard as "PiS5 exclusive! *Also on PC" doesespecially if you like JP games and have a brain, which means you are boycotting valve whenever possible and instead opted to buy everything from the JP switch eshop to not give westoids money
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>>696935985I swear I'm absolutely sick of third person games, specially if they're over the shoulder. Just the fact that a game is first person immediately makes it better for me nowadays.I hate batman combat, I hate open world collectathon bullshit, I hate third person over the shoulder aiming.
>>696936272based
>>696936272But it's so immersive. You get to watch someone play a game, like how you watch your favorite streamer play something. I actually hate 3rd person shit too of course, it's the opposite of immersive. Imagine how many first person immersive sims these fucking studios could be making with these gwafix instead of interactive movies.
all I need
>>696933614But it's true about diminishing returns, everything looks the same and the only difference is trivial shit like lighting.
It’s a pre-rendered cutscene on the PS3
>>696924010>right looks alot betterright didnt try to make ellie look like a screenrant thumbnail, thats it.
>>696934992>these are the people screaming about MODERN DEVS DON'T KNOW HOW TO ART DIRECTION and WHERE ARE MY SATURATED COLORS REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>696935493ExactlyNintendo keeps their cost down by staying behind in power, instead riding on the strength of their IPs. But the gap is closing because companies like sony are paying too much money only to move forward a mere few inches. Meanwhile, nintendo has been quite consistently not paying as much moving forward slowly but steadily and now the gap may be beginning to close
>>696935420Hell if it is comparable to the PS4 then Nintendo games will look better than most of the stuff on the PS5/XSX.
GRAFFIX were a mistakeCrysis was a mistakeWe could have stopped at 2005 and focused the rest of advancements on physics, simulation, AI, world and level design, interactions. Instead its just a race to the bottom of GRAFFIX and fog. Ray and path tracing counts but are way too costly for performance right now and will remain so for many more years.
>>696934992>purple rockswhat
>>696935420>>696935493>>696936104>Nintendo aims to hit the largest demo possible and continuously provide value in its consoles with exclusivity and price locking in order to maintain the power of your investment>fags online bitch that this is anti-consoooomer somehowNintendo is worth holding up on a pedestal, anyone who says otherwise is a faggot who doesnt even play games.If you have anything other than PC+Nintendo I dont want you or your wife's son talking to me or my actual son.
>>696935420That's a dumb argument because MH Rise runs at 30 FPS on Switch and 120 FPS on PS5. Capcom didn't "spend billions to get very minimal, almost imperceptible improvements", it's the same exact game just at a higher resolution and framerate.If developers want to bankrupt themselves chasing better graphics, that's on them. But a faster machine is ALWAYS better.
>>696937312Ironically enough crysis was more stylized and had far more recognizable locales than any modern gaym.AAA games these days look worse than videos taken with dogshit phones, blur and smearing included.
>>696937448today i will remind them
>>696937312meanwhile i played 3 path traced games on a 3 year old graphics card
>>696923073Ray tracing is the modern version of blast processing
>>696937579>he has only played 3 games in 3 yearsgrim
>>696936742Everything looks the same for dogshit megascan games because they use the same database and basemeshes. You'd be a fool to think it was for any other reason
>>696937506>Ironically enough crysis was more stylized and had far more recognizable locales than any modern gaym.Ah yes the unforgettable locales of generic tropical forest #1, generic tropical forest #2, generic beach and generic gook military base. Truly the apex of mankind's creative potential.
>>696937579im surprised there's games that have it aside from nvidiatechdemo 2077
>>696922353well there is one difference. last of "them" is now SMUDGED AF
>>696937741Not many games have path tracing
>>696922353The TAA of us
>>696936687looks really bad
>>696937506insane cope
>>696922353bait or retardation?
>>696922353Now tell people TLoU had pre-rendered cutscenes.
>>696923073An Ellie gf for Christmas.
>>696938501>900 usd to replay the same game with bigger resolution
>>696938501the only real upgrade is the middle one being 60 fpsreminder there's basically no game on the PiS5 that actually runs at 60 fps 4k native, it's all upsacaling goyslop
>>696922353The eyes are vastly improved.
>>696938709No shit a 500 eurodollars console can't outperform a 1500 eurodollars GPU.If you want 4k upscaling is your only choice.
OG and remaster have pre-rendered cutscenes. Part I is fully rendered, so optional costumes and mods appear on them.
>>696938501I love how they look similar despite this
>>696938980Did Part 1 change the ending to fit Cuckmann's version?
>>696938875or devs could just optimize their gameswhen shit looks like ps3 games ran on the ps4 they have no excuse to not take just as little performance requirements
>>696922353you are either blind, retarded, underage, or all of the above. 15 years is a stretch. past 5 years maybe
>>696934815why neil replaced the church for a synagogue and added holocaust propaganda (i didn't happened)
>>696937561Those were the days
How about we talk about how our social culture has become so deadlock stagnated from all the identitarian bullshit the only stuff that sells are remakes of remakes. Everyone wants safe already known product rather than taking a risk of a new experience, and all the big budget shit is either this rehash of rehashes or its (((intentionally))) infested with commie cult trash.And it's so bad you, yes you, have been psyop'd into insulting anything that is new and different.Graphics? Thats the least fucking concern. A $1500 PC that could play Doom 640x480 60fps couldn't handle Counter Strike 1.5 AT ALL. A $1500 PC that could play counter strike 800x600 60 couldnt handle Half Life 2 AT ALL.Your $1500 build from 2019 can't handle path tracing AT ALL.But here's the fun part:Your $1500 PC from 2019 can still play ALL GAMES made up til now. >oh wah but it gotta be low vram settings and whateverShut up. We didn't have this kind of gaming luxury in the 90s and computers that could play top end games of the year were horribly horribly fucking outdated just 3 years later. And they cost equivalently a hell of a lot more, barring super enthusiast $500+ CPUs and $1200+ GPUs of today.The graphics dont fucking matter.The real problem is way broader and runs way deeper than your love or hate nonsense about shiny shadow texture detail.
>update game>suddenly microstutters every 4 seconds>have to fucking set textures to very low despite having a flawless computerfucking hate graphics, medevs need to make their games RUN better
>>696939129low quality, static jpegs can only do so much
>>696922353Graphics have stagnated, but not because of the lack of features. It's because of the abundance of completely useless features. Plenty of PS1/PS2 era games had pre-rendered backgrounds that looked better than real time in-engine scenery. It seems that we're just finding more complicated ways to do the same thing. Reflections are now a lot more complex than they were 15 years ago yet only dogs can hear the difference. Lighting is also more complex, but often times it's even inferior to older games with static lighting. Just look at the numerous remasters/remakes of old games with botched lighting for instance. So that's why games can look like shit and run like shit now. For this game specifically (TLOU1), the biggest improvements in the remake are the far more expressive face models (as highlighted by the stark difference in expression between the three Ellies here), and the animations being a bit more fluid. That's literally it. Most of the remake's improvements only matter in motion. That being said, while TLOU is not a perfect game, this is a relatively faithful and well done remake. There are plenty of games with larger graphical leaps between that of the OG and the remake (say for instance RE4 and Silent Hill 2) where the new and improved lighting makes everything look different but not always better. So really, the only reason an image comparison like this can even make this point is because it's with a faithful remake like TLOU Pt.1. If it was made with any other remake, it would show that modern graphics are often an objective downgrade rather than a sidegrade.
>>696939965>Your $1500 build from 2019 can't handle path tracing AT ALL.i like how the goyim are starting to move the goalposts to path tracing now that AMD got over yet another crippleworks feature (raytracing)mind you this is despite the fact a $1500 build TODAY can't handle path tracing at all either, you NEED a 4090 to run path tracing on trannypunk 2077 at 60 fps and even then you still need all the goyscaling and fake frame bullshit to make it happen
>there hasn't been any graphical improvements in 15 yea-
>>696940258every game with AMDs software raytracing looks like dogshit
>>696933802 The 8800gt was a cut down 8800GTX which itself was a step below the Ultra. The gt pretty much replaced the GTS cards. If I remember correctly the 8800gt was 199 at launch.
>>696940695>Looks 10% better>Takes 3x the graphics power and cheating with fake frames and fake resolution
>>696940939you can run cod on a toaster anon
>>696940778so does any game with path tracing due to the DLSS smearing, what's your point?
>>696924010yOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. tELL THEM!! It's always a good pay off to spend 500 million dollars for irrelevant face scanning that improves the game marginally .
>>696940695>>696928230
>>696939129wow the same picture but better quality looks better? holy shit wow
>>696941410wow 1% increase in fidelity holy shit wow
To be fair, TLOU1 cut-scenes were pre-rendered. The remake is real-time.
>>696941543so what?
>>696938501why is the one on the right with blurred jacket?
>>696940258See this is exactly what I was talking about.Your automatic response is calling me a fucking good goy.You've been psyop'd you dumb nigger. You aren't thinking independantly or logically.
>>696940258>ou NEED a 4090 to run path tracing on trannypunk 2077 at 60 fpsfunny thing is, it's a a bad game that isn't worth time, let alone money.
>4chan shits and pisses at frame gen DLSS calling it smudgy and shitty despite it looking slightly worse than native >turns around and claims graphical updates from the past 15 years all look the same despite clear differences and slight upgrades don't count ?
>>696941949shitpost noted
Why are people here so proud of being unable to see an obvious and clear difference in technical quality. Sure, I know it's not as big as the switch to 3D in the 90s, or the leaps made in the 00s, but this whole "they look literally the same" is a kind of hyperbole that borders on genuine retardation
>>696941305looks like shit
>>696924010This anon is right but people are still mad about TLOU part 1 because Joel looks slightly less chad and Ellie's cheeks look slightly more chubby, that's all there is to it.
>>696942081>clear differences>you need to put images one besides the other to see the differencesretard
>>696922353I still can't believe there are no mods to have the remastered models on Part 1. I want to play it on PC after having played it on PS3 at 14fps, but her new look is so ass.
>>696942428did someone cover gotham in lava?
>>696942203They don't look the same, but on the same token, past the PS4 remake having a solid 60 FPS frame-rate, it's not worth mentioning how "realistic" and amazing this game looks when it's just the same boring ass directionless hyper-realistic third-person over the shoulder game we've had for almost a decade now.It's like going from Quake to Half-Life/Quake 2 in terms of graphics but instead of happening once, it became the industry norm for 2 generations.
>>696938501You forgot to write that the two on the left are not real-time they are pre-rendered cutscenes.The one on the right is real-time.>>696941745Because it uses actual depth of field as its in a cutscene.
>>696942935You're completely tasteless. The new model not only looks a thousand times better it also gets the original performance 10 times more accurately.
>>696937448I've played games you don't even know exist and I don't give a shit about Nintendo.
>>696928230>filenameit hasn't even been a decade yet
Post apocalyptic society and everyone has perfect teeth and shiny hair.I did a survival week once and we looked like cave men.
>>696942797>Ellie's cheeks look slightly more chubbyThis is bad how
>>696941656It means the ones on the left are fake graphics, where the remake is in-engine.
>>696933587Dishonored 2. Game released 8 years ago which runs maxed out on 1060 in 1080p60fps. Cope.
>>696943238>The new model not only looks a thousand times betterbig if true
>>696943997everything is too bright, no real shadowing
>>696922353She became hot in TLOU2 and the remake
>>696936272As someone who hasn't bought a lot of new games (because they're so often shit) I'm still as excited for GOOD third person shooters as I ever was. First person shooters already had it's heyday in the 90s. Really good third person shooters are still very rare, but that doesn't mean you have to play the lame ones.
I’m not even mad that notable improvements in graphics have became slow and rare, it was always inevitable that at some point even small improvements become hard to achieve, but it’s the performance side that irks me. System requirements keep rising for very small improvements, and games like Starfield, Dragon’s Dogma 2 or Jedi Survivor run like shit without really having anything to show for it.>>696943238IMO the biggest differences aren’t even in the character models but in environments. ND clearly did everything they could to make the models look as good as possible on PS3, but even they couldn’t pull off *that* much environmental detail with that hardware.
>>696939560Unironically kys, you dumb cuck. You have no use in criticize modern videogames wrongdoing.
>>696922353And yet the environment still look fake as ever.
>System Requirements>Processor: Core i5-7500 / Ryzen 5 1600>Memory: 12 GB RAM>Graphics: GTX 1060 / RX 580 - 6GB VRAM
>>696924010>a lot betteryoure fucking retarded and have no pattern recognition whatsoever LMAO
>>696945412valve is just built different
>>696944541Not true, Ellie was never a pure hot tomboy sexo. Trust /v/ nintendomania trannies and pc toaster cucks.
>>696938194Is that just a random spot in a map? Looks pretty bad (not fidelity-wise, though I'd expect last gen to be able to do that) just color- and clutter-wise.
>>696946017lol cope
>>696922670More like PS5 adidas eddititon
>>696946165That one looks better (somewhat). Could you answer the question. Is the first pic just a random spot? Because it's really bad if it's supposed to be one of the Ratchet & Clank initial level views.
today i will remind them
>>696943290>I've played games you don't even know existfemboy simulator on steam going to win you any points, faggot.
>>696946558look mom I posted the 20 year old stale bait
>>696946558the person who made this stupid fucking image is a genius, it will never die
>>696946558>now 10x hardly doesbrother, now 10x makes everything worse because you need more power to render something that looks exactly the same when you arent autistically examining the model.
>>696946387Show a game in the same style that looks better
>>696946781R&C 1 and most of 2
>>696946558What about lighting, texture quality and level of detail, anon?
>>696946846LMAO i was gonna add, dont come at me with your shitty looking PS2 games, retarded boomer.
>>696946934Higher fidelity, but still doesnt look good as the witcher 3, but to be fair I dont know how a european country side isnt going to totally mog a shitty american desert.
>>696947027Keep coping then. Have you figured out whether that first pic is one of those first views, yet? By you're lack of an answer I'm gonna have to assume it made you a little embarrassed, because it is meant to be that.It's fine. You're anonymous here. No one will know you thought that was a good example.
>>696947234Yeah, there's nothing about the style of Witcher 3 that stands out. It's just conveniently European.
>>696945630>"different"selective hiring and privately owned
>>696946558
>>696947297LMAO you dont get an answer because you know it looks good and absolutely shits on your nostalgia crap. just a massive cope from a poorfag favelamonkeynostalgic boomer retards are so fucking funny thinking their crap ever looked good
>>696947532Its literally color. American landscapes up north have great color, but the buildings are always bland or neo-modern dead-tech bullshit, where europeans enjoy liberal use of color in their architecture and environment. If a game uses a natural aesthetic instead of brown'n'bloom middle ages dirtcore, its going to look comfy as fuck.
>>696947234>but still doesnt look good as the witcher 3Witcher 3 looked like shit even in 2015
Obviously every nintendo negro who praise old TLOU over TLOU Part I never played it...not to mention never played it in 4k.Sometimes /v/ truly need to be gassed.
>>696949308keep trying
>>696949390Get gassed, cuck. Keep playing Mario #456 and Zelda #345 on your useless low res 10 years old tablet.
>>696949308>nintendo negro who praise old TLOUWhy are you niggers pretending anyone with a switch gives a fuck about your playstation cope game?Tlou is insanely generic "babbys first daughteru" and gets mogged by lisa, its ff7 all over again.
>>696949308>omg something that isn't gameplaywhy do sony bronies are impressed by cuscenes?
>>696922353The one on the left and middle is pre-rendered while the one on the right is rendered in game.Right?I just think it’s a loss of perspective that’s the issue.
>>696922353>the only real diference between PS3 and PS5 pro is texture resolution and better shaders?And to notice that you have to zoom footage in 10 times and slow it down lmao
>>696925528left = cautiously scaredright = STRONK WOMYN AM ANGERY
>>696922353Because all modern games are stil being made for the ps4 or similar relics.
>>696947762the irony of this mocking parody is that it's also just true, and the reason why so much modern "pixelshit" just looks like ass unless they stick to at most the 16-bit aesthetic from the snes or the spriteworks of the PS1
>>696943238Can you post a picture of what you're talking about?
>>696922353This piece of shit kike ousted all of the people (non-Jews) from Naughty Dog that made The Last of Us great, then he completely destroyed the series.I can hardly wait for Naughty Dog's next game to flop so that Sony can shut down that woke shithole studio.
>>696949787>>696949960
>>696946729this is genuinely so cute they should make a mode where you can play the game like this all the time
Well I'm pretty sure developers are hitting the wall when it comes to detail. There's no way the PS6 will not be 4k 60fps minimum. Path tracing is the next big jump.
>>696922353Wrong. You are to unintellegent too understand the technical details that go into making the fine details in the last image that make it look overall better than the first two. Those techniques would not be possible on ps3.
>>696954627>uhm aktchually the graphical improvements are so good only phds understand them
>>696954627I dont give a shit if the code is more bloated, lmao.
>>696922353The big truth is that even if hardware can render better visuals. Our hardware has already improved far beyond the point where the limiting factor has shifted hard towards being artist skill and not hardware limitations. You could have a computer with limitless hardware power, but that wouldn't give you infinite visual quality. Because the artists can ultimately only do the best their skills are capable of. So stronger hardware only helps to a point. And we're past that point.
>>696943238top is better, that's the joke right?
>>696949787>Why are you niggers pretending anyone with a switch gives a fuck about your playstation cope game?Because that's where all the sony ponies fled to and one of the reasons the nintendo fanbase is annoying as fuck these days.
>>696956423you're just uncultured with shit taste.
>>696922353Why are anti graphics fags always so delusional? No, PS2 and PS3 games did not look as good as new games, you really need to wake up and smell that coffee.
>>696959725>Game looks like a cheap animated movie>wow, that's impressiveThat screenshot doesnt look good, it looks like a cheap animated movie made by thirdl worlders.
>>696959725Pic rel does in fact look like a PS3 game tho.
>>696959725>graphic fidelity/movie game at the cost of gameplaykill yourself
>>696930260very cool. now compare an NES game to a PS1 game.
>>696959725that looks NUTTY>>696960680no it does not it looks 100 times better
>>696938754This is largely a material and or artist issue that could be done on the last gen. We haven't moved forward.
>>696922353I wish, graphics have actually gone backwards.
>>696926442>>worse facial expressions>>worse lighting>>worse textures on her jacket and hairNot only are you blind, you are stupid as fuck. I need to stop coming here
>>696959725>graphics fags brag about how amazing a game looks>look at their screenshots>it's just brownBrown is not a creative color. It is the color of shit and niggers. Now stop being such a worthless bitch.
Need a meme version of this
>>696961294post ur nipple
>>696923073>tray racingkek. I'll have to remember that one
>>696961205No, he's right.>Scene takes place during the winter>it's been snowing and she's been hunting>PS3 and PS4 version - she's got snow on her jacket and hair>PS5 version - FRESHLY BOUGHT WALMART JACKET ONLY $49.99
>>696961387Why are you a faggot?
>>696922353Don't worry about it. Just get excited for the next product and then the next after that...
>>696961615why is ur nipple brown? It is the color of shit and niggers
>>696923073I want 2008 era physics and world interacitons.
>>696933276That looks kinda nice.
>>696928590I was, with my 9800gx2.
>>696934094Just stop being poor
>>696923073Stutter (shader, traversal, etc), blurry smeared TAA, bloated install sizes, to name a few.
>>696961745Poor graphicsfag thinking that because someone insulted his "TOTALLY A PROPER GAME" brown coated shit-stain walking sim with ugly women that person must be a third worlder. I'm white, you however are not which is why my brown comment hurt you so much.
>>696960993this looks better off presentation and style alone lolalso readability
>>696961978>he thinks money will save himlollmao evenwith a side serving of kek
>>696939258Optimization isn't magic.
>>696930490A schizo once wrote that ufo's and bees are remarkably similar because of the way they both manage to zip around the air. Supposedly, as tesla famously wrote, it's all about frequencies. Bees emit a certain frequency when they fly. That frequency makes them able to fly and zip around in the air.
>>696962141its ur nipple thats brown not mine
>>696946558Yeah, but the sixty triangle model looks way better, though. Sure, it's not super noticeable in the beginning, but if you zoom in a bit and really look, then it's super easy to spot the differences. And let's face it, you all want grafx to progress, even though you often state otherwise. I have seen it million times on here how you shit on new games that "look like crap" and how there should be a baseline for how modern games should look like and such, so you're all not a lick better than everyone else when it comes to these things.
>>696959725hmmmmm
Honestly if anything, devs should realize A.) Most of the normal population into vidya that actually plays on PC usually is either running laptops or PCs that are from 2017-2020 at best and aren't all built to be beefy gayman rigs for the sake of e-peen, and B.) no one besides giga autists on mongolian basket weaving forums and tech forums is going to have a Joker Moment just because a few files were compressed a bit and don't look like muh silky smooth experience if it means the game ends up not bloating up to 5 terabytes of fucking storage because devs don't understand that most of us don't run the same dev set-up as they do making the fucking games.
>>696963102>better reflections than even path tracingmodern games are a fucking embarrassment
>>696963473there is no reflections
>>696962193>better readabilitylmaoooo awwwhh are there too many details for your old eyes? dont know where to go? :(
>>696963473theres literally not a single object being accurately reflected lmao>>696963102looks old af, especially with that crappy bloom
>>696928230I watched a letsplay of it lately by some guy who played it for the first time and he couldn't believe the game was 9 years old in terms of graphics. Kept questioning if this was a remake or what.
>>696922353some guys are beating off to this goblin huh
>>696964364what detail? you just posted a landscape of nondescript brown blobs
Fuck I wish part 2 was good. I remember being so hyped for it. Everything is fucking shit these days
>>696960851>GRAPHICS HAVENT IMPROVED IN THE LAST 15 YEARS THERE HASNT BEEN ANY GRAPHICS IMPROVEMENTS WHY ARE WE STAGNATING WHY ARENT GRAPHICS GETTING BETTER???*posts image of a new game that blows the fuck out of any game from 15 years ago*>UHHMMMM WHAT ABOUT THE GAMEPLAY THE GAMEPLAY ISNT AS GOOD I DONT LIKE THE GAMEPLAY IN THAT GAME YES I KNOW THE TOPIC IS ABOUT GRAPHICS BUT UHHHH THIS DOESNT COUNT BECAUSE I DONT LIKE THE GAMEPLAYevery. fucking. time.whats the point of making or even entering graphics threads when you're just moving goalposts like this as soon as you get btfo'd?
>>696964364>>696964529Where's the gameplay?Or is this yet another "game" you can play the youtube port of and lose nothing of value aside from your time?
>>696964832its almost like people want real games instead of tech demos wrapped inside kike propaganda movies or something
Post pictures of Assassin's Creed II o IV and tell me how they look remotely better than RDR2 or AC Odyssey/Valhalla. People thinking 2010~13 games look better than 2017~2020 are delusional. It's true that graphics didn't improve much since 2020, tho.
>>696922353Ellie was so cute. Why did they ruin her?
>>696964667Well anon, you see, there's that funny thing called a 'sunset'.
>>696964849see >>696964832OP literally whines about graphics not getting better, as soon as you get BTFOd you move goalposts to >WHAT ABOUT LE GAMEPLAYthis is a graphics thread, you autist
>>696928230Wow
>>696964943Do you not read the OP? Do you not realize what kind of thread you're in? OP is talking about graphics stagnating and not getting better in 15 years. OF COURSE WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT GRAPHICS.
>>6969285902x8800GT. Cope.
>>696922353>pre-rendered cutscenes>linear gameTsushima is a whole different universe in comparison, early 10's looked bad in general, especially open world games. Naughty Dog games since Unchartedb just looked better than the rest of the industry. Mediocre gameplay tho.
>>696943238Top is so much better its not even funny.
>>696965129Men should never use the word cute or any variations of the word cute.
>>696965463in fairness the only last of us title that has pre-rendered cutscenes is the original release of the first game on ps3, the ps4 remaster and every version of Part II all have in-engine cutscenes
>>696965602whats better about it ? the blur ?
>>696965290its mid
>>696965646Yes
>>696965608True, just say ellie was a fuckable cut of meat
>>696965835what do u think now ?
>>696966091Top still mogs.
>>696965835>>696966528Based
>>696955450This is very true.Improving hardware can enable some really cool new stuff, such as raytracing in Cyberpunk 2077 or Control, and something like Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020/2024 wouldn’t have been possible on 7th gen consoles no matter what, but these are outliers. Often in practice, the demand for increased detail just leads to outsourcing work to Pajeets, and even if the games technically are more sophisticated graphically, I’d much rather have a game with PS4 tech and good artstyle than today’s tech with bland phoned in artstyle and outsourced Pajeet-tier models.Generally, good looking games made in early 10’s still look great with not much to nitpick regarding tech, as long as you run them with modern resolutions. When you go older than that with 3D graphics, you start seeing more technical compromises, which honestly don’t bother me too much, but they’re still there if you try to examine the games critically, even something as Advanced as Crysis has stuff you could nitpick about like low detail distant LoDs and blocky environmental models, even though its lighting system is still confusingly good despite being 17 years old.
>>696965129Cuz bitches aren't allowed to be scared and human, in general, they have to be strong and fierce and defiant.
>>696923073GAMES NIGGA
>>696968768sovl
>>696922353GRAPHICS?! You think I have time to care about graphics right now?!?!?
>>696964667I've been playing Space Marine II at 4k with a 1080ti and it looks pretty fucking sharp. Just don't play NuSlop™®©℠
>>696934094Just don't set textures to low man.
>>696969894kek
>>696922353we had photoreal games 30 years ago kid.
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>>696969894I thought 1971 was the change
