Just beat this game and loved it. Is it worth playing the Xenosaga and Xenoblade games?
no
>>696958798gears was his most ambitious game by far, which is why they ran out of money halfway through and had to just tell you in text what they imagined the game would be like.the rest are slower and simpler for the most part but they're similar.
Try XS1. If you don't like it, try XBC1. If you don't like either, then welcome to the club.
>>696958798Yes they are all good
>>696958798If you are looking for more Xenogears no, both Xenosaga and Xenoblade have their issues, Xenosaga is a wordy as fuck extremely linear RPG where Xenoblade is open world slop that plays itself, so choose your poisonI think Xenosaga is at least a bit more interesting just because KOS-MOS is in it
Yea as they're better games than Xenogears
>>696959064I played and beat XBC1 many many years ago and remember enjoying it enough, though it had nowhere near as many religious, philosophical and sci-fi themes as gears, which I really love
>>696958798Xenosaga was a tough sell for me but it ended up being worth it. The trick of it is, the series leans more into Tokusatsu stuff like Kamen rider than anime both in visual style and in humor.Also, highly recommend playing chrono Cross before Xenoblade 2
>>696958798> Is it worth playing the Xenosaga and Xenoblade games?yes but xenosaga as a whole isn't as good as gears. Blade's story isn't as good either but the gameplay (both combat and exploration) are better
>>696958798You may like them. You may not. I, personally, did not get onboard with the Xenosaga or Xenoblade series. I got through two Saga games and tried one Blade game. It's not quite the same, but there are plenty of XG fans who have enjoyed them.
>>696959332this is such fucking kino
>>696958798I’d say play the xenoblade games first (in order) X isn’t really connected to anything but you can play it last if you want. If you like them then play Saga
>>696958926I would say saga was more ambitious than gears desu>>696959252those don't kick in until the second game
>>696959252Xenoblade still has the same themes but isn’t in your face like Gears and Saga is
>>696958798No. Xenogears is the apex of JRPGs.It's not perfect or even finished but it's still the best.
>>696959332>Tfw the church raped the orphans before shipping them off to Solaris to be slaves and/or get turned into flesh eating abominations in constant pain
>>696958798Yes>>696959195Well Xenoblade also has kos-mos, that doesn't mean much.
>>696959195kos-mos is the least interesting major party member in xenosaga
They are all good games but they never ever come close to scratching the same itch. Saga 3 and the DLC of Blade 3 come close, but none of them will ever satisfy you know that Xenogears has had its way with you. You'll be able to enjoy them for sure, they're good games, but they're nothing like Gears in terms of scale or storytelling. Gears>Future Redeemed>Saga 3>Blade 1>Torna>Blade 3> Blade X>Saga 2>Blade 2>Saga 1>Future ConnectedI want to emphasize, they are all great, flawed games and good experiences. You will have fun if you stick it out start to finish with them. I wouldn't advise going straight into Saga 1 and forcing yourself through the Saga series and doing the same with Blade.My recommendation, now that you've played Gears, is to go Saga 3, Blade 3, Blade X, Blade 1, Future Connected, Torna, Saga 1, Blade 2, Saga 2, and Future Redeemed. Yes, this is schizophrenic, but it also delivers the most thematic density of narratives and the best payoff to prepare you for future titles. By the time you're ready to play X you'll be able to play the definitive edition.
Am I the only one who actually liked Disc 2? I loved how dark the story got and I even found the way it was broken down into little mini-episodes helped the story pacing a lot. At that point I was so on board with the story that I didn't miss a bunch of running around on the world map.
>>696959851No, I feel the same way. The story, setting, and world were the strongest points to the point I would have enjoyed it as a visual novel boss rush.
>>696959605They're just orphans.No one will miss them.
>XenothreadRemember that optional dungeon where the reward is Citan's best person-sized sword, and the only thing you get to use it for is walking out of the optional dungeon?
>>696959851no, stuff happens too quickly but gears isn't known for its gameplay, a lot of the best story stuff happens in disc 2
>>696959846So the saga games aren't direct sequels to one another? You'd have me play Saga 3 then jump to 1 and finally 2?
>>696960024They are direct sequels but 3 is the absolute best one and there are enough ass pulls that the payoffs actually work better in reverse.
>>696960024no don't listen to that guy, saga 1 and 2 are necessary for 3's story (actually so are pied piper/missing year). Blade can be played in whatever order except for blade 3's DLC which needs blade 1/2 to be completed first otherwise some of the scenes will sound like complete gibberish
>>696959851By the time I reached disc2 I already understood the flow of the game. When they tell you what happens I could perfectly envision how it would have went down if they let us play those sections. Honestly it works and didn't disappoint, if a bit abrupt at times
>stealth rec threadOk I'll just ask, XS and XBC didn't scratch the itch Xenogears itch for me, so what does? Is there a good long JRPG like Xenogears that has a lot of really heavy philosophical and psychological themes?
>>696959392I think they're about even.Saga got more of his shit in the actual games, like all the crazy pseudo-science, but gears' perfect works book showed how much he had in mind for that IP as well, and it was a lot.
Literally the only disappointing thing for me in Xenogears was the fact that Krelian didn't have a dick
>>696960253>stealthThe OP is literally asking for recommendations, how is that stealth
>>696959846The best, definitive order would be to play the whole series jumping game to game by chapters.
>>696959851As a kid and as an adult, I saw disc 2 as an extended ending cutscene with a boss fight here and there. It worked just fine for me as the story was the central experience of the game. I still got 40-80 hours of a playthrough, so it didn't feel like the game was half-finished either. I imagine if disc 2 was "complete", it would have ended up being a 75 hours long game at minimum.
>>696960426best order story-wise is saga 1 (or saga 1+2 on DS)--> pied piper --> saga 2 --> missing years --> saga 3at this point either play xenogears or blade afterblade 1 --> blade 2 (stop right after chapter 7 ends and finish torna before finishing blade 2) --> future connected --> Either base xenoblade 3 or future redeemed Xenoblade X can go wherever
>>696960253Welcome to the post-xenogears hellscapeThe only game I can think of is Drag-on Dragoon, though it's not a JRPG and doesn't have the same heavy religious, philosophical or psychological themes as Gears, just the edge. It gave me the same feeling while playing it. Pure dread
>>696960758You'd want X to go alongside Saga, maybe after Saga 1 for the sake of the radio
>>696960253>Is there a good long JRPG like Xenogears that has a lot of really heavy philosophical and psychological themes?No.
>>696960853even with radio it's not clear where it stands
>>696960253Nothing quite like Xenogears, but it got close for me.
>whatdoesgodneedwithastarship was last updated April 8, 2012Feels bad man
How the fuck is Xenogears so one of a kind?
>>696960812>Welcome to the post-xenogears hellscapeIt doesn't feel good.
>>696962120This dude should have gotten more screentimeFunniest motherfucker I've ever seen!
>>696960253Seraphic Blue
>>696958798https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_sl8GwoJEYThis song is stuck in my head it's so good
>>696958798You pretty much have to try Xenosaga, since there are a lot of similarities, intentionally. Whether you love it as much is another matter.
>>696958798Xenosaga - absolutely. It's just a shame the DS version, with it's optimal version of 1+2, isn't translated. Definitely play 1, watch the cutscenes of 2, then play 3.
>>696958798Yes they are all kino sequels that carry the same feel
>>696961376It just is.
>>696962120You never know who might come back to say hi.
>>696960853Saga and X are practically opposites of each other Saga humanity is completely alone in the universe X FUCK IT! We're going full star trek!
>>696958798No. That's the best one.And even it is a gigantic mess.The other games (saga/blade) really double down on the cutesy shounen anime brainrot and fuzzy wuzzy talking animals.
>>696958798Xenosaga 1 and 3 are decent, I had real trouble playing 2. The whole series really suffers from originally being intended as a 6(?) entry story but was cut down to 3 games so they had to wrap a lot of shit up really quickly, and things that should have had more time to simmer just kind of get thrown at you and resolved without you ever really giving a shit about them. First game has a fucking wicked card game though.
>>696958926They finished Xenogears 1 it was supposed to end at that Solaris fight.when they learned they weren't getting a sequel, they chose to fit as much of their plans into the game as they could before the deadline.
>>696958798Xenosaga, yes.Xenoblade, no.
>>696965795Xenoblade X is worth playing, as it's based on the early parts of Gears' backstory when humans had to leave earth. It's also the only good open world game.
>>696965704They determined it could not get a sequel before release? What if it had been a huge hit?
>>696966016They left square for a reason
>>696965157I love that someone at Monolith, maybe Takahashi himself, has a pirate/sailing fetish.
>>696965704>>696966016No, they were given the option to end at Solaris and Takahashi decided to keep pressing forward. The sequel was canned (even after it had some preliminary work done) when it sold 900k copies instead of over a million.
>>696965986I played it. It wasn't worth it.
>>696966426I did, and it was worth it.
>>696965986Key secret to enjoying this game is to ignore Irina and Gwin as much as humanly possible. I don't know why they introduce you to these two first, every other character you meat after is so much more fun to have in the party, and Irina especially is so fucking insufferable stick in the mud, you might get the wrong idea and avoid extra party members altogether.
>>696967042Isn't the story locked behind a certain amount of affinity with them though? I remember completely ignoring them and then getting to a point a needed gwin affinity to continue and being forced to go do random bullshit with him in my party to grind affinity to continue
>>696960253unironically this>>696962323also other rpgm that aren't really that similar but still recommend>the way (very unique setting, has a sort of shamanic dream vibe to it)>demon legacy (if you like grahf and id's edginess and badassery you'll love this, also the grammar evolving from TGT-tier at the start to average esl fanfic level is hilarious)
>>696960253I think the philosophy and psychology in Gears is really overblown as much of it is flavor text. The interesting elements are entirely in the backstory, characters and setting.Maybe Killer 7? Drowned God? I'm thinking more schizo-core games though.
>>696966360That makes more sense. Glad they pushed the ending in there then at least.
>>696967580thankfully only at like 40% affinity and by the time that mission comes up, and I think certain characters get affinity up faster than others. How you respond to soulsvoice commands probably helps it. too.
>>696958798Xenogears is my favorite jrpg, and while the xenoblade and xenosga games are decent, they don't hit the same highs or give the same impact on the player that Xenogears does. Honestly, I'd suggest playing Ar Tonelico if you haven't. Or you can try out Xenoblade Chronicles 1 and see if you like it.
Calling xenogears a game is stretching it, especially disc 2
>>696968614I dunno. One of the things people bitch most about is the platforming sections.
>>696968614Figuring your way through those last few dungeons takes longer than all the storytelling.
>>696960253Persona 2:Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment
Bladebabby who just went through Gears and Saga, I think if Xenogears was "complete" it would've easily eclipsed the rest of the metaseries. However, it's still really good as is. If you asked which I prefer between Gears and Blade it would change depending on the day. I think Saga lost me in the second half of two and I couldn't get back into it for 3 aside from the Miltia arc, but I probably missed something anyway. Either way, even the second worst game in the series is still better than a lot of others so I'd say I enjoyed Takahashi's ride thus far
>>696960253Black Souls
>>696959851i would say the vast majority of people who enjoy Xenogears like disk 2 the best. It's where the game does what it does best.
>>6969655852 requires you to buff up even on normal enemy fights to not do shit damage, which filters most people. And enemy resists are extremely important so if you're using any of the 3 characters who can't get element buffs on the wrong enemy again your damage will be shit. Even if you know what you're doing you can take 3 minutes for regular encounters by the end of the game so they still aren't particularly fast.
>>696960269>何を言おうと言い訳になるだけだから>Whatever I say will just be an excuseWhat did she mean by this?
