>that anon who constantly daydreams about making his "dream game" despite having zero art skills or talentThis isn't you, is it?
the cube keeps staring at memocking me
>>698173132Nah, I got decent enough art skills, I just have no clue about coding and I am shit at socializing so I can't rope in other people to handle the shit I can't do in a game project.
I’m a chronic procrastinator. On the off chance I do start something and become productive, I end up taking a break, usually after working myself to the bone, and the break never ends.
>>698173132Nah i have the skills and talent but no ideas whatsoeverAnd no>do X but with Y is not a proper idea
>>698173132I made an ugly robot man this summer and then i got filtered by animating, i think i'll try again soon since it was actually pretty fun and i have a new game idea>>698173406i kneel, mogs me in both 2d art and 3d
>can't draw>can't animate>can't modellife is so dogshit and unfair
>>698173132I learned to code, what a fucking mistake that was.
>>698173464Same. How to break away from this cycle?
>>698173681>got a degree in CS only for AI to blow up and make me irrelevantI am such a fucking moron
Just start by making a silly lil character and practice. Everyone has to start somewhere.
i want someone to be my own personal chat gpt for blender. like i ask them how to do something and then they answer and i say thanks and that's how i'll learn blender
>>698173132My art and animation skills will come together on their own, I don't know dick about numbers and button presses.I can do walkcycles and certain actions, where do I start learning to program the animations to button-presses?
>>698174012Blender Secrets is my immediate go-to when I need to know how to do something with modeling or sculpting. Pierre Picaut has great videos for rigging and animation
>>698173624Neat low poly dude. Fingers and arms could use a bit more geometry in them unless you intend them to be those hoof/claw things.
which is harder, mastering the art or the game engine?
>>698174148just pick a game engineyour options are unity, unreal, and godot
>>698174338game engine
>>698173132I'm not terrible at making props but I suck at making characters, I get too autistic about it
>>698173132I'm making police station, it was supposed to be a prop in armory
i did a bunch of Blender tutorials 13 years agothen when i got to college i lost all interest in being disciplined and haven't recovered
>>698174338the art
>>698173132Actually I have a game I want to make but I'm not sure it is feasible until humans grow an additional hand.
I'm learning 3d now because I want to make a walking sim/waifu game. Miside was pretty much what i envisioned but way more. I still want to have even a quarter of the interactivity in it but at a much smaller scope. On the flipside i can draw/anime in 2d and have had a ton of success in my old animations so I hope that will give me enough ability to make appealing enough things.
>>698174338you can get to a usable level of coding ability within a couple weeks, especially with how easy engines make it these daysgetting a usable level in art skill takes 6 months to a year, bare minimuim
>>698173132>This isn't you, is it?nopeI'm creative, I have passion, and I have talentmy life, however, is a living hell, so I'm not making any games
>>698173132>Steals a picture that's been used multiple times>"Durrrrr y u no use da blender liek me durrrrr!!!"Come back when you've actually modeled something, poser.
>>698173132i'm not autistic enough for blender but once i'm confident enough in my art (currently on the level of getting an aneurysm because the i can't make a box not look like it's from a birds eye view like in the "how to learn to draw in 30 days" book shows) or music (i have a fruity loops crack) i WILL make my dream homoerotic platformer/brawler/bullet hell
>>698173132I just mod existing games to do what I want.
>>698175568shut the fuck up autist
>Read up on a lot of technical topics about engine development>Never actually even try to make a simple engine
>>698175650Struck a nerve, didn't I?
>>698175568I used to think you were chill but you're kind of an asshole for no reason and your models look like shovelware from the 90s instead of something good from the 90s
>>698175376>>698174923thats a relief since I have a good headway in art.I still don't know how to animate stuff though, how hard will that be?
>>698175715you got links?i kinda wanna do things from the ground up
>>698173132I sometimes think about it but I also know that anything I would want to make would be very niche and so it would purely have to be for the fun of making it and not for any hopes of profitand making a game is a lot of work and playing games is much more fun so it will never happen. Still fun to think about sometimes.
Listen up, peasants: this is now a Fygoon thread! You would be wise to join me.
>>698175263>I'm learning 3d now because I want to make a walking sim/waifu game. Miside was pretty much what i envisioned but way more.That's funny, I too started learning Blender after playing MiSide. The character animations and little details in that game are just too good, so I want more, and I want to make them myself.
>>698173132I'm the ideas and lore guy. The world builder.I just need some artistic minions to see my vision through.
>>698175754I'm an asshole for calling out OP for being a poser for making an inflammatory comment while making nothing original? If he was an actual modeler like >>698173406, >>698173624, or >>698174012, among many others, then I wouldn't be shitting on him.
>>698175956Based. Cappie really did it for me.
>>698173406already better than concord
>>698173132>that anon who constantly daydreams about making his "dream game" despite having zero art skills or talentI don't have skills or talent, but I am not letting that stop me.
>>698176016Yup, she is pure soul.
>>698176004>I'm the ideas and lore guy. The world builder.Ok that's pretty cool...>I just need some artistic minions to see my vision through.LMAO with that attitude you're gonna get a total workforce of 0 people. Here, out of pity, may I present to you my Temu Alibaba ReBoot robots.
>>698176013nigga your models look like roblox
:)
>>698176191based
>>698176242Now let's see what you made, then.Go on, don't be shy, unless you have nothing to show.
>>698176013You're an asshole because you're an annoying faggot, and global 6 10 and 13 /v/ 1 2 3 4
can any drawfags let me know if their drawing skills transfered over to their 3d skills?
>>698173132behold the power of blender
>>698173896>Everyone has to start somewhere.That is a good mindset to have. Also digging the monster.
>>698173406Deja vu I feel like I saw this dude in a trailer on an xbox 360 demo disc back in the day for something that looked like warframe.
>>698173406nice grineer ripoff
>>698176318Meaningless. Post your work
>>698176362Ok I understood the first part but then you had a stroke at the last bit, could you repeat that last part again?
>>698176565it's porn lol. i'm not getting banned for that.
The Fygoon faggot hasn't improved after multiple years of Blender. The entire mid-90s esque artstyle is one giant cope.Let that be a blackpill.
>>698176675catbox link
>>698176394Absolutely. You won't be able to texture clothes/characters/items if you don't understand lighting/ao/etc from just normal drawing.
>>698176675You could catbox it, you no-model-having goober.
stop replying to the closet scalie
>>698176708>>698176750I have been expecting you all, my loyal whelps.
>>698176675Now you have to post it
>>698176640He's a wannabe janny.No need to engage further. Nothing is lower in life than the wannabe hallmonitor, not even the hallmonitor himself.
>always wanted to make my own rooty tooty 2.5d boomer shooter>tfw already pretty good at art>tfw already have a grasp of c# coding>tfw already got a working map and movement system in unityIT'S ALL COMING TOGETHER BROS.
>spend years learning how to play an instrument>ultimately realize songwriting is more important than virtuosity>spend years learning how to draw>ultimately realize it's more important for the writing to be good than the art>spend years learning ___________ to make games>ultimately realize that ___________ is more important
>>698176553Kinda reaching with that accusation, dontcha think?
>>698176640>>698176013I saw you in a couple threads and I agree with that anonI thought you were chill but you're kinda annoying
>get stuck on opengl and collision
>>698176071Not a high bar to beat desu.
>>698176918Word? Wow, that's even lamer than what I was expecting. Fygoon Platoon, do we even consider this insignificant win a win?
>>698173132I wish there was some sort of medicine I could take to stop thinking about this shit
>>698177107who and what?
>>698177045What can I say? I'm a very opinionated person.
>>698173645Start grinding
>>698173132I can't get past the design stage. Too many ideas, not enough focus or drive.
>>698174338Art is extremely subjective, code isn't.So I'd say art.
>>698177040Nice Spider Tank rip-off.
>>698175568>>698176350>>698176640>>698177270Cool artstyle, reminds me of Ecstatica
>>698176538You could be thinking of Dark Sector. Warframe is basically a sequel to it.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_SectorNever played it myself so I dunno how closely it resembles warframe.The actual inspiration for the design of the Dragoon in this picture>>698173406 is more of a combiantion of various elements from shit like the exosuits from Ghost in the Shell and other Shirow's works, Tau stealth suits from warhammer 40k, along with general evolution of the original concept I had for them way back when I first started working on this autistic worldbuilding project. My first versions of the design were these things. Over time I decided to make them bulkier and more and more clearly being biotechnological exosuits rather than the more buglike things they started out as.
With Shadow Raiders now in this thread, check this Blokk I modeled.
>>698176394The only reason my models ever look somewhat passable is because the textures are okay.
>>698173132I know a bit of coding but my free time is eaten up by streaming. I think next year I'll try to set aside time regularly to finally work on a game with a friend of mine I've done a game jam with in the past.
>>698173645That's how everyone starts off. Do a little bit every day and you will improve.
>>698177539Thank you, thank you, though at the time when I first made my art style I was not aware of Ecstatica.Once I learned, however, I decided to model one of my human characters in that style, so here's the Lieutenant based on the Ecstatica style.
>>698176394you wont be able to draw references for your modeling if you can't draw
How can I use Python in Blender? I know you can, I just don't know how it would be helpful.
>>698177753For reference, this is the Lieutenant in my own modeling style. I want to fix the face but since he's not a part of the Fygooniverse I'll do it later.
>open up blender project>looks like shit>make no progress>get demoralized and depressed>close blender>spiral until next day>open up blender>repeat
>>698173406Ignore seething talentless haters, this looks sick bro.
>>698177665I like it, good job. I can't texture very good so I just do whatever.>>698177954This. I've been following this guy since I can remember seeing him post and I like his work and I hope he gets a team together to make an RTS game with the characters.
>>698176394To a degree for me, yes. I found out that my years of trying to draw complex shapes from different perspectives gave me a decently intuitive understanding of modeling in 3d programs once I had learned how to use the tools themselves. The original reason I started to learn 3d modelling tools was both curiosity as well as the notion that it would be easier to model complex shapes in a 3d modelling software than rake my brains over drawing those shapes over and over again in 2d.The twist was that ultimately, at least for me, drawing was actually way more convinient and the only thing I really got out of learning to use 3d modelling softwares was the satisfaction of learning as well as the opportunity to see some of my designs as a 3d model. For my actual drawing hobby, 3d modelling is not that useful.
>>6981766402nd half of his post was dedicated to sucking janny dick, but yeah you're an asshole anon, shame too cause i think some of your renders look pretty neat
>>698177807automate routines, especially attribute-related ones
>>698178305>a person on 4channel is an asshole
>>698173132Regardless if there is scientific proof or not, certain people are just born with natural artistic skills. Those who aren't are left to suffer for years for either minimal or decent outcome in artistic ability, or become so stunted in growth that they become delusional like the Fygoon nigger.A man cannot become an artist by having Loomis thrown at him, and a man cannot become a 3d artist by having Udemy Blender courses thrown at him.If you're drawings look like blocky MSPaint chicken scratch, and your 3D models look like incomprehensible blobs, just give up. It's over.
>>698173132i also have no friends so i can't even ask anyone for help
>>698173645You are a big picture thinker like me. "Why waste time grinding on this mundane hobby for minimal gains?" It's a good question and your brain is having a hard time coming to peace with it. We save energy trying to make the biggest impact moves and end up paralyzed by inaction. It's not laziness. I understand this sounds like cope to the drones in this thread
>>698173132noi'm the guy that needs to learn to program
>>698173889Nah, CyberSec bros gonna be eating good when the thirdie code diaper gets thrown into the AI shitfan.
>>698178305>But yeah you're an assholeOk.>>698178769No he means computer science, not cybersecurity. Cybersecurity is safe for now.
>>698176394Absolutely. You'll be a better 3D artist as you improve your drawing skills.
>>698177665How the hell do you do textures like that?
>>698177954Thanks. I'm way more of a hater of the shit I make than any random anon could be so I don't really mind it lel.>>698178057> I've been following this guy since I can remember seeing him post and I like his work and I hope he gets a team together to make an RTS game with the characters.You can find most of the finished/half finished stuff I have drawn for this setting over the years on my barely maintained deviant art account. https://www.deviantart.com/screeble/gallery/62271545/mundus-carnisThough there is a lot of shit I never get around uploading out of various reasons, usually just me being unhappy with the drawing or it being unfinished and me losing interest in working on it further, like this one for example.As for finding a team, my crippling social anxiety combined with my racial debuff of being an autistic Finn makes the prospect of that rather difficult. If I am lucky, I might be able to rope other people into making a demo project with the shit I draw as it's basis next spring, due to me attending a course about 3d modelling for vidya, but we'll see if that even happens.
>Finally manage to get the multi-threading operating like I wanted for performance AND without the graphics glitching like crazy from messing with the GPU buffers in multi-threading>game still fucking dip under 40FPS in big battles despite having done nothing but optimization this monthREEEEEEEEEEEEE>>698173132>the cube>I still have to find a reliable source of good low-poly sexy girls models, or learn blender mysefl....REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>698173132Its not my fault, i fell for the amd meme. Once the 50s drops im never looking back
>>698179218Dude, I don't see why you have such crippling social anxiety, your art looks fantastic; also, don't ever use your race as a reason to belittle yourself or see it as a "debuff". You have something genuinely special and I want to see you actually do something with your work and not let it languish in the back of your mind like I did for almost a decade before finally taking up arms. Listen: in a world dominated by "indie devs" on Twitter making the exact same slop for attention and not out of passion, you will have the upper hand because you have something UNIQUE.Seize the day.
I started learning Blender and Godot this January and while coding is a total pain, modelling and texturing is whole lot of fun. What progress i made this year is my main character, few NPC's and handful of random assets. On the coding side i made a 3d character controller and a state machine.
jiggle physics are funI haven't worked on this in like 2 months after releasing a shitty version that I ended up deleting
>>698179860Mental issues are what they are, and even if I can see that there is no real rationality for my anxiety etc, I can't rationalize away the feelings themselves. My remarks about my ethnicity were more or less just a joke though.When it comes to pushing this "project" forwards, I am trying to create a series of infographics that depicts the various factions of the setting and their weapon's technology like picture related, however the pace of it is glacial atm due to my tendency towards procrasitnation between my spouts of productivity. For anything more complex than just drawings or individual 3d models here and there, I'd actually need the help of other people though.
>>698180514Goblin sex?
>>698180653I feel you, man. I thought I could knock out bits of my own Zmeian Compendium while I bash my head against the wall over making cutscenes in my game but, as it turns out, thinking up the histories of a fictional world opens up a can of worms I am not at all prepared to handle.Worse yet, the Zmeian Compendium encompasses all of the diverse islands of the Zmeian Archipelago and not just Frydar Island, otherwise it would have simply been called The Frydarian Compendium.You still got this, though. Believe in yourself as I believe in you, and on the off chance that you fail, always pick yourself back up and keep marching proud.
>>698181042Thanks m8, I appreciate the sentiment.
>>698181107I give credit when it is due, and I see heart in your creation. It definitely trumps all of the uncreative Twitter shit I keep seeing these /v/ furfags spam ad nauseam.Keep it up, dude.
>>698181034*slime ball
>>698173406there has to be a chat room somewhere or forum where like minded people can meet and create a game together.
>>698181616You could go to a community college or university and take programming and art classes. You'll find tons of ambitious people like yourself.
fuck bros, i´m gonna have to learn zbrush. my computer shits itself when the sculpt hits 7 digits...
>>698173132Pro tip. Low poly modeling is relatively easy to make passable. You can even use ai to make reference images to make it even simpler.
>>698181337Thanks, I will, and same to you m8.Atm I am sketching out a bunch of designs for a faction that is supposed to be aesthetically explicitly female, and running up to the issue of not being that good at drawing women. Lack of practice on my part mostly, that's what one gets for not being motivated to draw by the desire to draw hot chicks, and instead being motivated by the desire to draw cool monsters and weird scifi shit lel.>>698181616/vg/ at least has the amateur gamedev general threads. Haven't posted in them myself desu mostly because I barely use /vg/.
>>698182831Sketch in question.
haven't worked on this creature in a bit, wanted to try and redo her hair to be a bit more detailed last time i opened the file.
>>698182831Don't bother using /agdg/, it's a hellscape there and almost everyone there will crab you. Wait until the /v/ gamedev threads show up, now THAT is where you will find some actual support.>>698183092Digging the sketch, they look pretty feminine to me.
>>698183102>>698180514>>698180070Shortstack kino
>>698183092your sketches seem familiar. are you in a certain porn artist turned proompter discord?
>>698173132I'm both learning to draw and code at the same time. Drawing feels like pain because I don't understand how to do perspective and I can't eye proportions worth shit. Coding is actually way easier to wrap my head around.
Don't wanna throw my life away modeling characters.
>>698183525there's no pursuit in life that you couldn't argue is throwing it away
>>698183259Like I said, I haven't actually posted in the /agdg/ threads, I just know that they exist. On 4chan, the crab mindset seems to grow prelevalent whenever a creative subject matter becomes firmly enough established topic or is the the primary topic of the board at hand. /ic/ being a perfect example of the above.Regarding the sketches, I'm still trying to find the overall aesthetic I want for the faction. Lore wise they are a fertility cult that is responsible for enabling majority of the denizen of the setting (who are borderline infertile mutants) to reproduce, and I want to somehow convey their worship of femininity and motherhood to come across in their designs. >>698183416Nope. Ive never drawn porn, I've always been too prudish for that (to my own detriment, at least with the designs I'm working on atm). Nor does learning ai prompting interest me as I find drawing more engaging and interesting than trying to get an "ai" to depict what I envision.
>>698173559Literally just make clones of simple games like platformers or puzzlers or something. If you do actually want to make something then having no projects is a great way to waste the talent you claim to have
>>698173132I'm working on it.>>698178580>just give up. It's over.No.
>>698173132Things I have to learn/do to make my game:>Learn Graphics Programming & Game Engine Development because I'm too autistic to use Unity/UE.>Learn 3D modelling. I'm okay to create 2D assets.>Have an actually good idea for a new game.>Have a good story ready to go.I have a decent chunk of these things, but my ambition keeps running away from me. I think I'm gonna have to dial things back considerably.
>>698183525learn how to model clothes then and make the easiest money of your life selling assets or even selling mods
>>698181452I love it. Did you use shape keys for this?
>>698173132no instead i get too overwhelmed and anxious to ever finish anything. in the 5 months ive spent learning how to model with zero serious art background, this is the one model ive finished while being satisfied. nothing like hyping yourself up to make something for an hour just to barely accomplish anything in 2 hours.
>>698173132No.
>>698181864i never bothered with learning to sculpt because my PC is the cheapest shit ever. i just learned to do box modeling
Currently making a game using AI assets.I'm not shoving something out for a quick buck, I'm actually putting effort into everything else. I just have zero artistic talent despite close to a decade of practice and live paycheck to paycheck so I can't pay someone. I'm worried people will call my game slop simply because it uses AI despite my hard work, but I genuinely don't know what alternative I have at this point.
>>698173132It is me. The problem is while I know I could make a game if I wanted to, I don't want to make a game. I want to play games. I want to enjoy them. Making a hobby into a job is a surefire way to make yourself hate the hobby. And if I make my own dream game - that means I already know everyrhing that can happen in it, so there won't be any wonder of discovery because I'm the one who made everything and therefore I know exactly how everything can play out.
>>698173132I see these threads every day and Im wondering if people actually think you make games in blender now.
>>698175568Gay retard.
>>698186740yeahmy process is just drawing the eyes with curves and then converting them into meshes
>>698173132Stop projecting
>>698181616Not really, you have to take charge and direct something using examples from your own art or code even if it's subpar, or fall in line and be directed by someone else. You need a brainless code monkey to code for you and do little else, otherwise ideas will clash. There needs to be a very clear director/ideas guy who understands and makes clear exactly what artstyle/story/theme/gameplay they're shooting for. Although it is possible to have multiple directors such as an art director. The point is, you need the ideas guys leading the ones doing the actual brunt of the work otherwise it's just going to be a bunch of artists and coders swinging their dicks around making a mess with no identity.
>have all the skills to make a 3d game except for the audio>don't give a fuck about games any more and the passion is gone
>>698181616You'd think here would be a good place, but it's surprisingly hard to find someone willing to work on an h-game with me.
>>698176743I wish I could make 3D models like thisI tried learning blender for 4 months and gave up
>>698173406>>698183092I'm getting some heavy Keith Thompson vibes from this. Which is also where other anons are seeing Warframe/Dark Sector stuff since he's a long time artist for those devs.
>>698187730>4 monthsJust keep doing it, you'll get there.
>>698173464You lost interest. Curious. What is your birthday?
r8
>>698178580Behold, the "greatest" the Fygoon haters have to offer: nodevs who tell others to give up like them.You are beneath me.
>>698188310Would hire you to work on assets in my imaginary studio for my imaginary game.
>>698173132I can do art, Im learning c++/programming right now, learning to do some things from scratch (not the rendering part, i use raylib for that), encapsulation/oop.Having trouble with c++ maps and vectors.
>>698188768>nodevsbold coming from a nigger who hasn't touched a single engine despite years of shilling your shit on /v/
I've quit a lot of projects because of scope creep and demoralization regarding art and music. And coding. So yeah, definitely just daydreaming for now. I still have a creative outlet with writing, but I'd love to actually finish a game at some point.
>>698188937Ahem:https://nrasko.itch.io/the-frydarian-taleYour move now, retard.
Now that I have nae nae'd on that loser, what shall we do now?
>>698189791>>698188768>>698183259Are the limbs on your models segmented? I always assumed that they were but it just might be your weird art style
>>698190025They actually are.Open this picture if you dare, for even a single peek is enough to drive most mad.
>>698178681how do i get over this paralyzatio due to thinking too much? is it just shutting off this brain and going balls deep and having fun?
>>698173464Same. I was on a particularly good go of it earlier this month but now I've done basically nothing for like 3 weeks. It's really difficult to work on a schedule when it's all self-regulated, I'm really trying but every workplace and educational facility you ever go to training you to work under someone else who gives you tasks, deadlines, etc. that direct your actions make it really difficult to unlearn that mindset and do it all yourself. I feel like I'd get at least double the work done if someone else told me to do it, but the fact that nobody's making me do this but myself creates this mental block where I can't help but allow myself to put it off and that's hard to get over.
>>698178580I drew this in MSPaint using pencil and random brushes as a yet unreleased Atlyss shitpost. I have no experience. Do I have talent?
I wish I had enough money to just pay artists and programmers to make the game I want
>>698190156AAAAAAAAA SEX!! SEX!
>>698189017Bro, stop shitposting and actually make this shit look like not shit
>>698190394That's an old screenshot, I've been working on the lighting in my game to look more like the renders.
>>698184104this person in particular didnt draw porn, just concept art and autistic rants about his warhammer ripoff setting. anyways i checked his stuff and it seems different
>>698190546Then stop linking the page as an "own" when it looks like shit
>>698190730It's still more than what you have. Let's see your work, then.
I will make a good game despite my lack of artistic skills!
>>698173132i forgot how to dream
>>698173132art and programming are easy, music is impossible, and it takes good music for a game to truly ascend.
>>698190803Making Roblox worlds is not "having something"
>>698175568when you first started posting i thought you were a good willed aspiring dev, now anytime someone shows a slight bit of criticism you go full damage control, this place has changed you terribly.
>dont use agdg its a shithole>Fail to mention that hes one of the reasons why the general is shitFygoon why are you so much worse than a nigger?Anons cant make gamedev threads or art threads without you spreading your asshole out of nowhereJust look how much diarrhea is in this thread. If cris is bad then you are 10x worse you russian nigger
>>698190849is that a semen meter
>>698190156you're a lying sack of shitnice tits though
>>698187730post your last project
2025 will be the year
>>698173132I can draw, I have decent social skills, and I already have some story, worldbuilding, and characters so I can kind of write too I guess.
>>698191430piss
>>698191245Bocchi mind broke him. I don't know what it was but something about the pink haired anime girl caused a switch flip in his head and go onto a autistic melty
>open project file>untouched base and 200 pics scattered around the viewport
>>698191553Nigga how am I lying? It's Atlyss related and I made it in Paint and this is the first time I'm showing it to someone.
>>698191430bladder
Yeah. I can handle everything else, but visual art skills are either pure torture to engage in or completely impossible to learn.
>Be doing pretty well with game dev recently, just finished my 3rd game which did a lot better than I expected.>Think about trying to make some music since I usually just use royalty free/public domain songs. Already know how to play several instruments in real life so how hard can it be?>End up wasting an entire week trying out various software only to find out that they're paywall bullshit (Either through buying the program or the instruments needed to make music), require me to jump through tons of hoops to use (Ex. account signups, downloading 10 different programs/plugins), just exist to manipulate existing music samples and the composing part was clearly an afterthought, or too limited to make what I want.Anons please help me out I'm getting frustrated at this. What's a straightforward music program where I can make something like Maplestory/Ragnarok Online music?Ex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZls16rQ7QoI'm clearly far more retarded than I thought when it comes to this. I just want to compose music as if I was writing music sheets, not fiddling with the controls to an airplane to warble some samples I have to pay for.
>>698179218alien cat cute
>>698192073I am intrigued
>>698186769nice work. i too finished my model but never added shading and bones to it. keep it up
>>698190156OwO
>>698192153>I just want to compose music as if I was writing music sheets, not fiddling with the controls to an airplane to warble some samples I have to pay for.That is unfortunately how music production goes.What I do is put my music down in finale and then export the midi into Reaper where I use my VSTs to make it sound right. As for samples, I only use Garritan's stuff and Roland's (discontinued) SoundCanvas, so good luck finding something!>>698192280You play as a magical girl (or boy) and go around town helping people, in which you get scored at the end of summer. The magical transformation's power is drawn from the bladder, which is why the player has to manage it.
>>698173132I've learned a decent amount of UE, basic 3d modeling and texturing and can produce catchy tunes. Still a long way to go, it's a lot of work. Making assets is the fun part imo, working out every little detail of a game is tough
>>698192153There's Guitar Pro? That's a tabulature based music maker for guitar, but I'm sure you can import other instruments on it. Look into the export options when you have the time.
>>698177031>ultimately realize it's more important for the writing to be good than the artPure bullshit. If your game is good enough you don't even need good art. But art is way more important than writing
>>698177107Maybe don't enginedev? If you really want to, fine. Otherwise make a game in an engine and down the line think about modding an engine or making your own
>>698192765Writing can save art, gameplay can save writing
>>698192885And hot bitches can save your game. through dick, unity.
>tfw great at modeling but horrible at texturingI really want to make Resident Evil 4 style characters but the texture art is just so far above what I can do, as a non-drawfag. I can model perfectly but the texturing is so hard for me, I just cannot draw, add shirt wrinkles, do skin or faces, I have no idea how to improve. I've learned the fundamentals but everything just comes out shit.
>>698192153The DAW doesn't matter for emulating a type of music, the synth does. You can often find what synths classic games used and then find vsts that emulate them, or get a good wavetable synth like serum, pigments or vital. Then learn synthesis, syntorial (costs money) or sound on sound's big red button series are good resources. But also if you find out what synths old games you're seeking to emulate used the vst copies of those synths might have patches of the instruments you're looking for.
>>698192885You can make a game with no writing or next to no writing though. Art is usually important, and gameplay is the most important unless the art and writing are really special.
>>698192392i never bother with shading because i feel like i end up worrying more about getting them right than learning what im doing wrong with modeling. i have a few basic ones that i put on just make sure it looks close enough to what i want
>>698193052Maybe try learning fine art. There's a ton of resources for it and the skills transfer over. If you have a community college nearby there's cheap classes available. Online there's an insane amount of resources paid and otherwise. Another idea is to keep trying at it, consult references and try to represent what you see in them. Then take your final versions and seek critiques online.
>>698178580>rage comic monk poster tells people to give up on their dreamsFigures. Never give up, anons. Even if you think your art looks like shit, keep at it and you will improve.
>>698191245>>698191059>No responses to both of theseShows that he only ever goes for replies he knows he can win against
I was told last gamedev thread how shit my hands were, so I redid them.Pretty much took the universal human topology just to be safe.now I'll just tweak a few more things and be done with hands for a while.
>>698193560That's what I'm saying, gameplay will save you no matter what, and if you can't afford/make the greatest art in the world then having great writing will help players get immersed anyway. Writing isn't all about story, even a skeleton plot can be saved if players memorize all the enemy lines because they're fun.Well, not today I suppose, since movies are all the rage and the writing/gameplay usually suck.
>>698192153>not fiddling with the controls to an airplane to warble some samples I have to pay for.You can find good synths that are free or cheap these days, but a lot of good ones do cost money. And you're going to have to tweak things unless you like how a patch sounds and are fine with no variance. Writing music would be the same way, if you wanted a violin to use a tremolo technique or play staccato you would have to write that in the sheet music. The key is to write the music first and leave most of the tweaking for later parts of the production. You can find programs that will allow you to just score things but often they're going to sound very stiff
Is it really wise to start in the deep end and making your assets from scratch? Wouldn't it be better to just make something with finished assets first?
>>698174148do us all a favor and just add a line between the legs
I'm JUST starting out modelling. Are body parts supposed to clip into each other or should it be one continuous topology? I was looking at some psx models and they just jam the limbs into the torso.
>>698173406For me it's the opposite, I can only do programming, the art and music I just can't do.
>>698194734Yes. Get RPG Maker and use a majority of those assets while making some of your own. Then go from there.
>>698194764Are you wanting to make a PSX looking game?
>>698194734if i was starting from zero i would do that.or something like crow country was probably made with very minimal technical skill, only they did make it very aesthetic for the limitations.
>>698194407Nice improvement. I think the left is fine honestly, it's just lower poly than the right.>>698194430That's fair, I like the idea of setting the mood with visuals and keeping the writing to a minimum. That way there's some setting, but it allows he player to imagine things about the world. Something as simple as "Zanzibart, please forgive me" is what I'm talking about
>>698194734Asset creation comes dead last and takes up a ton of dev time. Use whatever you can find/throw together to get a prototype up and running and worry about the specifics later (knows nothing about gamedev)
Art comes alright to me, but I will NEVER understand coding no matter how hard I try. It may as well be satanic black magic. I just don't understand anything about it.
>>698194896I'm just making some models for fun but I do enjoy that level of detail atm
>>698194734I think most people woukd suggest just making project games first but it really depends on what you want to do. If your game idea is simple but involves more detailed art then I can understand starting with art. Imo you should start with what you're most interested in because that's going to help you build the habit of working on things which you can transfer to other areas
>>698191635I deleted everything out of rageI could never make anything even remotely humanoid, let alone appealing
>>698194951Coding is easy. It's literally just math and logic. Hell, you can just copy and paste code.Art is complete bullshit and a way more valuable asset.
>>698194927>Something as simple as "Zanzibart, please forgive me" is what I'm talking aboutYeah that kind of thing definitely works as well, but the trick is really selling how badly the character wants to be forgiven by Zanzibart.
>>698194951It's a series of instructions that handle possibilities. Like imagine 10 people circling a memo amongst themselves, one of them keeps track of what the user is doing, writes it on the memo and the memo gets passed down to whoever's responsibility it isz who then goes and tells their sub-circle of subordinates to handle it before passing the memo on to the next guyIt's a web of memo circles
>>698195018The problem with that level of detail is that it relies entirely on textures. So great practice for painting, not so great practice for modeling.
>>698195145There's plenty of videos of people modeling anime characters in blender. Just follow those step by step, then try to repeat the steps with as use of the tutorial as possible. Trying to do things like that from scratch isn't going to work well most of the time
>>698194927thank you, I about burned out on that, even in 2d I hated hands lolthats just the same model with the smooth modifier on. I kinda want to go with the chunky look though, it looks kinda Virtua Fighter-y
>>698195329Figures, figures. Still though I'm curious about the collision
>>698194951It's instructions and directions in a new language. Maybe try some programming games or scratch out. There's a ton of programming games where you give directions to an npc, I think that's a good way to get started if regular programming lessons don't make sense
I have a baseline understanding of using Blender just from fapping to stuff imported from XNALara/Models-Resource. My latest monstrosity was futa Samus fucking a giant loaf of TF2 bread which I deleted out of shame during post-nut clarity.
>>698195145>I could never make anything even remotely humanoid,That's concerning. Try this, it worked for me as a complete beginner https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Use9T2IX1XE&pp=ygUabG93IHBvbHkgYmxlbmRlciBjaGFyYWN0ZXI%3D
>>698194951Just keep at it. At some point it will all click for you
YOU FUCKING RETARDED NIGGERS NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU CAN ONLY PROGRESS VIA HARD WORK AND TIME SPENT ON THE TASK. BUT YOU LEARN FASTER IF YOU KNOW HOW YOU ACTUALLY LEARN.
>>698176394im doing that shit rn, I think 99% of it is in the proportions, I think you could get away with skipping perspective/rendering. but I find it helps especially when a face looks off but you can't tell why.tldr; not essential but comes in handy
>>698195393How so?
>>698195364The only thing I can notice is maybe the digit lengths are slightly off or the end knuckles being too large. But if you're going for a stylized look it's fine. It's always worth improving, but unless you're trying to develop a high poly realism style I think what you've done looks good and you could use it for a game easily
>>698173132fuck you OP i'm trying at least
>make dream game>can't actually enjoy playing it because I made it
>throw together some junk 6th gen ass humanoid model>psh, low poly is easy, it's just cylinders and cuboids>see this again and remember how sophisticated it can be >get demotivated Gotta get a grip
>>698194734it probably depends on what youre making. if youre just learning to make scenes/levels then sure you can probably use premade assets to block stuff out. if you want to make character models then you can also use premade models to sort of layer over as an outline.
i can't do anything
>>698195667Like I said, is it bad form for models to have internal clipping or should the surface be a completely smooth continuous thing?
>>698195230I think a lot of that is in the visual art. The lighting and color of the scene. The gesture and animation of the character. The voice actor's emotion if you have one. The room is dimly lit, the character hunched over illuminated by a beam of light, forlorn expression sadly lets out "Zanzibart... Mommas coming home"
>>698195880No one can, until they can
>>698173132i have a game idea, is vampire survivor but white blodd cells batling viruses, parasites, germs, etc. i will call it "battle for OPs mom's vagina"
Art cannot be learned. At least, not at my age.
One word: plasticsTwo words: Strip Balatro
>>698195880Just remain aware. If you seek your weakness and inability to act it can help you develop a force that enables you to act.
>>698173132No. I'm actually quite good at programming and while I'm not good at art or music, I am "good enough" at both of them. My game is about 4 years in, though, so it's certainly taking a long time and I don't know if it'll even be good when it's done. But I'm glad I'm at least doing it instead of just thinking about it.
>>698173132Probably sounds stupid but lately I can't get the idea of making an animated music videos out of my head. Similar to the ones in Project Diva: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpYkz5WU1VgIs Blender a good option for that? Is it better suited for other types of animation or something?
>>698196113See your*
>>698196130What is it? Solo deal?
>tfw no slave codemonkey to execute your ideas
>>698196270Yeah. Grand strategy game.I'm currently in the middle of working on the factory / pop generation process. Rather than fucking around with gigantic text files manually (as one might when modding a Paradox game) I'm setting it up so that there are parameters that can be set for cultures and world tiles that will then be used to automatically regenerate factories and pops, in order to make it more flexible as changes are introduced or settings are altered. I despise random worlds (mine is fictional, but hand-crafted) but I think strictly guided procedural generation is not a bad thing.
I just wish I could make something that looked visually appealing and not garbage
>>698195884It depends entirely on you and what you are going for with the look of the game. It will work, weight painting each "piece" to the skeleton and having no fingers, but it is bad form depending on what kind of look you are going for.
i remember trying to draw the halo screen in first person, with hands holding those plasma pistol things, and i showed my mom and she laughed and then scowled and asked if i was trying to draw penises
>>698175568Looks kino!
>>698196674If you learn to enjoy he process of making things and can still criticize your work then you will improve.
I know that you have to practice at things to get better, but I genuinely cannot get past the part where you make complete pieces of shit. When I make something that looks like shit it's fucking embarrassing and I want to stop.
>>698176242Definitely the kind of model you'd see if it were made back in the game's early years, which isn't a bad thing
>>698196895I started modelling recently, tried to make something on my own, got mad at the foot for coming out wonky after spending too long on it and gave up immediately Gotta go back and try again using the mirror tool this time
>>698196895You really have to just get into it and not think of what you made it. It is hard at first. I started drawing a year ago and I did feel embarassed at first. I took a drawing class and by the end of it felt very confident about my abilities and had several people in the class impressed by what I was making. You have to try to get into a flow state like when you're deep in a game. If you have to judge your work then also make sure you see what you did do well with if no matter how small
>>698194834>>698194902>>698194939>>698195048>>698195779My friends who went to become a game dev always tells me I have a better understanding of things than 90% of the people he works with despite me having 0 technical skills or experience, and I just never got around to it, but I think maybe I should try since I do get turned on by thinking about game mechanics and level design and shit weekly. Thanks for reading my blog. Where do I start?
>>698196458>Procrastinate until AI tech advances to codemonkey slave levels then I'll become the next Kojima - waiting room
>>698197274You should look up what Devs do for a game jamEvery successful game has a developer behind it whose made like 20 jank ass games no one cares about, so you gotta start snall
>>698173132After I get my software engineer degree, I will start again to do 3D models. In the art side I only know how to do some hard surface modeling with UV unwrapping, in the programming side I know enough to make a game that can sell well (like, polished complex game systems that are fun to use)
>>698197274Like I said start with what interests you. Sounds like you might like writing game design docsor prototyping game mechanics and systems in an engine like unreal or unity
>>698197381i think the only plausible strategy nowadays is to make cool art that reflects some of your ideas to lure codemonkeys and pray for them to work for free like you until the game is made
I become unusually productive when horny and trying to create new ways to make room material, it's how I became proficient in several pieces of editing software. Hoping to channel that into learning modelling.
>>698196458>>698197560codemonkeys are insane, be prepared
>>698197612>roomout of curiosity, how does this picture make you feel
>>698190151NTA but what else are you going to do? Doom scroll some more?
>>698173132I can animate but I think that's the worst skill to have if there's just one guy on the project. I hate modeling so much bros
>>698173132I'm working on basic aimations, props, and characters for now, but it can be really hard to find the motivation to work on things. Escpecially when I can be a bit wishy washy on designs.
>>698173132I just play my dream game in my headI can add any mechanics I want. It is the most complex game in existence.
>>698198129do you have any exemple in mind?
>>698194939This is how I game dev (also knows nothing about game dev)
>>698173132I realized relatively early on that having dreams was pointless, so no.
>>698199124Only personal experience
FYTROON LOOKS LIKE THAT?!??!!
>>698199763No fucking way lmao
>>698199763nigga looking mighty zesty with his little suit and tie
>>698199763What race is it?
>>698173132No, I don't have the creativity to make a game. Really it's the biggest thing holding me back, I know I could learn a bunch of skills if i had a reason to,.
>>698173406make a game on roblox unironically
>>698177342>code isn't.hello yandere dev
>>698200151>I know I could learn a bunch of skills if i had a reason toinsane cope
>>698176675>hurr>durr>hurrdurr im so superior>doesn't post worktranny
>>698199763Took your dumbass long enough to find me.
>>698200895Are you going to finally respond to other posts, muttboy?
>>698200078fly goon
>>698200957He's only going to respond to negative ones, damn shame.
>>698200957Indeed I will, but first let's see your beautifully chiseled jawline, flowing blond hair, and, most importantly, your finest suit.
>>698199763I kneel, king.
Before I continue, let me just say a few things first...>>698201156Man, stop kneeling. You're a king too.>>698196814Appreciate you.
>>698173132I want to make a game eventually; But, whenever I go to start, I wonder if there's something else that I could be doing with my life, so I never finish anything. I can't figure out what my priorities are.
>>698199763and how do you know that's him
>get job at game studio>it sucksKeep your hobbies as hobbies.>I-It'll be different for me! I'll get a job at From Software and learn Japanese and-Yeah yeah. Just go make iOS apps for $100,000.
>>698173132no. I don't even have dreams anymore.
>>698173132I WISH I COULD GO BACK IN TIME AND PUNCH MY PAST SELF FOR NEVER LEARNING SHIT PAST ACADEMICSFUCK
>>698202337because he has his full name on his itch.io page>>698200895i didnt even know you existed until 3 gamedev threads ago, well done making shite no one wants to play for almost 10 years
fygoon why are you so small???
the fygoon kneels to the BWC
>>698203184>>698203231>>698203328Oh wow, you found my public pictures, I'm quaking in my boots...NOT! Unlike you fat neckbeards, I'm proud of who I am and of my achievements.
>>698203598Shut up faggoon
>all art skills and talent>zero motivationsuck my dick and maybe i cook something up
>>698194407Is this not the same hand with the subdivision modifier being applied? Either way, both look great depending on the art style you're going for. That shit is hard as fuck, good work.
>>698203598you might as well put a tripcode on well you're at it
>brother has a masters in comp sci>even played around with unreal engine>he doesn't like indie games and thus has no drive to make his own game
>>698203598What are you trying to do by acting like this in every single gamedev thread? Do you really think people will come to like you and want to play your game?
>>698203760You have no power over me, you fat basement goblin. The world is my oyster and you're .>>698203868First of all, "while", not "well". Second of all, I don't know how to nor do I intend to learn.
>>698203976thanks sorry.you might as well put a tripcode on while you're at it
>>698203964Agdg review bombed his game and he has been even a perpetual melty every since
>>698203976*and you're allowed in it by my will alone.>>698203964Uh, yeah? Ever since I did that move everyone's been focusing their attention on me and my game.In fact, ever since I did this epic move, I got PAID.
>>698173132My dream game is an action JRPG based on Fire Emblem Three Houses/Hopes where I dreamed up a full three Act storyline involving a true final boss in the end. I listen to some tracks and can choreograph certain boss fights, I thought of how certain supports and scenarios would happen, and new character interactions. My expectations of it are so high, it’s like beyond the scale of a Xenoblade game. Maybe I should do a fanfiction, and learn 3D modeling and make image stills of it like a visual/light novel.
>>698204076Appreciate you for listening to my criticism, however my point still stands.>>698204079Your "review bomb" did nothing.Seethe.
>>698203761I'm in a similar boat, and if you're serious it might make us the most contemptable motherfuckers in this thread. Exponentially worse than that autistic fella posting his lizards everywhere. Talent that rots away without ever having been used is a lot worse than believing in a talent that never existed in the first place.
>>698173132Did this Pyramid Head lately for 3d printing
>>698204186Fytroon, I have downloaded your zesty game and will play it later today. Well done.
>>698173132>have amateur music and programming skill, but otherwise do this>just now coming to terms with the fact i don't actually want to make it and just have fun dreaming about it>will probably do something really basic and small, if ever, with excess ambition completely out the window so it stays realistic>have modest but steady lifestyle nowadays so, with the dream now dead, now completely fucking lost because the monotony and aging into stagnation has become unbearableThe fuck do I do now? Is it really okay to just take it easy and play vidya?
>>698204186It certainly did something faggoon.
>>698204262Heres my limitus test for you; When you imagine quitting entirely are you relieved? or dissapointed? If you're relieved that's your 'soul' giving you permission to walk away and be a normie. If you're dissapointed it means some part of you isn't ready to give up and rot away yet. Even if you tried, you'd find no fulfillment in it.
>>698204194Look I know you're trying and failing to roast me, but what does it take for you to be motivated? If you have the acumen to create something wonderful why don't you use it? I'm sure you have something you want to show the world that is uniquely yours.>>698204258Another Fygoon Platoon W, though I must say it isn't as "zesty" as you wish it to be. For a "zesty" (and by that I mean completely fucking homosexual) game, please refer to Atlyss.>>698204293Still living in the past, I see.
>>698204498Refer to that platformer with the gay dog for zestiness.
>>698204568Even better example LMAOOOOO!!!And he calls it an alien!
>>698204498nah fygoon is pretty sexy and possibly homoesexual. its aight i like that zesty nigga
>>698203328>nikolay raskovskiyShit, I thought he was Mexican. Rusniggers really aren't white.
>>698204683>fygoon is pretty sexyDebatable.>possibly homoesexualYou're going to be disappointed with what I have in store for the sequel.
>>698173132i'm trying to learn bros
>>698173132What are you talking about? To make games all you need is a good idea.
>>698204776Proud of you.
>>698204719Part Mexican, part Russian, all AMERICAN.I'll tell you how it all works in my New York Times bestselling memoir.
>>698204438Tough question, can't tell what I'm really feeling. I've been part of a game dev cycle before so having some familiarity with the weight of devving makes the idea of going "fuck that" feel kinda nice. On the other hand, I've brainstormed this idea for years, to the extent I don't even want to pillage its elements for a lesser project. Maybe part of me ultimately feels it's time I should ultimately spend somewhere else, even though the project has really become a reflection of my ideals and wants and letting that go feels like I'm just being lazy or choosing insignificance.Maybe I'll refocus and see if there's another idea or even hobby that could fill that void, and if it can't, then I'll know for sure whether or not this game needs to happen.
>>698173132Nope.avi
I've been wanting to get into gamedev for the last two years but I just can't find the energy or the focus for it after my 8h work days.How do you even find the time for it?Between work and chores and housework I just have maybe one or two hours of free time a day.I fill up that void by writing music whenever I can but at this pace my game won't be finished in 200 years.I haven't even written a character class yet.
I do know how to code and make 16bit pixel art. I just don't have the time and money to make it a career option.
>>698205504just do it niger
>>698173132>All I have is my OC setting>No distinct plots in mind, and my writing skills are garbage>That's ok, I have one idea floating in my head that requires no story whatsoever!>No skill in art, but a surface enough level of theory to understand I'd need to be extremely careful about art design to make the game functional while somehow having the art skills of a grade school child>No skill in programming, took classes and only passed because I got carried by group projects>No skill in video games, but I understand just enough to know the inherent issues that I think I need to solve with my ideas since I have autism and cannot commit to tried and true structures of defining characters >Don't even know if my setting is good because I have nobody to bounce it off of properly, everyone I regularly interact with is too intimidated by my sheer autistic aura to ever give me the time of day on it.>Don't even get me started on sound design, nobody lets me pick music for anything because I've already proven myself to have shit taste.>Even if I actually put a game together it's a multiplayer focused idea, so I'd have to host servers, which costs money I don't have to have something running 24/7.At least its fun in my head...
>>698173132I've never really had an idea for a great video game but I'd really like to spend some time making an amateur soundtrack just for fun.
>>698173132this was the last thing i modeled but i decided i didnt want to make the game anymore (its really boring and unrewarding to make a game)
well fygoon I played your game and died twice to falling in lava instakills being sent 3-4 minutes back everytime, there is probably something good in there if you worked on it more but the first level's environments are way too big and empty and the controls/general gameplay don't do alot
>>698173132I was thinking to make my own Touhou 1 but better and Sonicshit using Clickteam Fusion 2.5 dev edition since it seems to be the "complete" version. >it's after Chaotix>takes place on Isolated Island>demons chill in since Eggman "accidentally" cracked a portal>cockroach oc btfo demons>some SaTAMshit like Naugus>some concept art shit like ThirteenSomething like that
>>698173132No but i occasionally like to dabble in some 3d modeling for funbut im just making cars.very on and off process for meIve been making this car since 2018/19>>698188310they look pretty niceseem functional
>>698206221Are you the guy that made that nolgorb game?
>>698208601yeah
>>698173132I'm one of the lucky ones whose dream game already came out
>>698173132No, I'm just waiting for AI to get even better, so I can skip all this boring shit and actually make the game I want, without wasting time.
>>698208919What's your dream game?
>>698209030Meet n Fuck Kingdom, Steve.
What a passive-aggressive narcissistic cunt
what's better for a fairly simple 3D game (on-rail shooter, fairly low poly count for most things), Unity or Unreal?
>>698173464Hey, I don't remember writing this post.
>This isn't you, is it?Not at all. Working on multiple titles, released one on Steam, and always learning new skills. Picked up 3D in the last two months as well. Turns out I have a natural knack for 3D animation. I'm still new to 3D but enjoy the work.>>698173406Have an email address to share? Would like to potentially team up, especially if you do modeling but not so much rigging and animation.
>>698190180Junji Ito is joining Kentaro Miura in the "why the fuck do anime studio hate me so much?" category.
>>698204776That's a really cute mouse anon.I think you'll be successful! Even if you just stick to doing the art portion. I think you completely understand the purpose of pixel art and you did a phenomenal job. I think I'll save that mouse to my PC because I like it so much.
>>698210640I started with Unity for 12 months, use Unreal for a 3D game. It's just best practices. Not being a Unity hater for Unreal is just built for what you want to do. Unity is absolutely not and you will need 50 add ons to match Unreal's built in utility. t. someone who worked on their dream game for a year in Unity before switching to Unreal. Low poly, not realistic, I've realized it's literally just built for devving in comparison. I wasted thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours on unity plugins before I realized Unreal has this all built in and there's no reason to waste anymore on Unity. Just do not bother, it's such a hunk of shit that you would need 12 months to even realize how much of a hunk of shit it is compared to UE5. People will probably say otherwise/use godot but for what you're looking for you want UE5. Trust me, do NOT waste the time on this other shit. Plus if you want to do game dev as a living, everyone uses UE5 now, so the knowledge is a good skill to have. t. drunk professional and amateur UE5 gamedev.
>>698192153Mario Paint Composer>>698212121NTA but very considerate advice. My team and I use Unity and Godot for 2D and are thinking of sliding into 3D. We will most likely stick with Godot so far but your advice is something I'll keep in mind.
>>698173132I've been learning to draw on and off over the years but most days I feel too much trepidation to start something, much less finish it. Back in high school, one of my art teachers told me perfectionism s holding me back and lately a friend (himself an artist) told me that I shouldn't "grind" at art because that turns it into a chore.
>>698196458>tfw no slave artfag to make your executed ideas not look like shit
>>698173132UVs make me want to kill myself
>>698212334If you are considering sliding into 3D, then you probably know enough to know the things I'm talking about here. UMotionPro- built in to UnrealEasy Save- built into UnrealThe entire concept of sockets- built into UnrealCloth/Hair/Fabric physics deformation- built into UnrealPost-Processing that can natively understand and read Depth + Normal Maps- built into Unreal.My dream project is a classic survival horror game. The entire process of making the game in Unity and then in Godot was a nightmare, porting to and integrating into UE5 was such a dream it's hard to even overstate. UE5 was built for 3D games and has the most money behind it for a reason. I really recommend not fucking around with other shit. I learned my lesson after a bit more than a year, I really recommend it. Not even to mention the more attractive revenue share package. Basically, it's better in all ways, business wise and technical. Not a UE shill, just really burnt over my wasted months on other engines in comparison. It was like constantly cramming things in my ass sideways to make anything work on Unity or Godot, UE5 they work exactly as I would expect. This mostly only goes for 3D projects, but damn. It's been such a dream. t. again drunk UE5 dev.
>>698204776>normal mou-sex 5
>>698196458use visual scripting then
>>698199763>Actually finish the game>Get 1,000 reviews>Have grounds to debunk anything said by anonsThis could have been avoided...
>>698212386I also spent years grinding boxes and naked old men. My art skills improved a lot more when I started drawing things I like and porn meant for anons on 4chan. (If you just draw for yourself you might not push yourself to make it as good as possible, I got a huge ego so it physically hurts me to post imperfect drawings for others to see, but it's a necessary pain.)
>Sell 600 copies>Less than 25 reviewsKuyashi...
One of my good friends died recently, but I'm still working throughout Christmas to push another update before the end of the year!
>>698214645>One of my good friends died recentlyDamn RIP, looking forward to your updates.
>>698174638Are you making Die Hard: With A Vengeance: The Game.
>>698212121thanks anon
>>698214814Die hard?
>>698215085>Die hard?With a Vengeance... The one that isn't a Christmas movie.
>>698204719That's a hohol last namePlease don't lump this mystery meat faggot with us honest russians
I generated these models from AI using some 1996 era CG promo art from the original Tomb Raider. The outcome isn't exactly great. But I have been trying to remake Lara's Croft original 1996 promo render model. This is not a bad starting point.
>>698173132yeah you got me
>>698173132I've basically given up on 3D after trying it for 2 years. pic related is the majority of my work it all goes back to being able to draw, no matter how hard you try to avoid it. low poly or even mid poly requires decent texture work, which means hand-painting textures, since you can only do so much with using photo sourced textures (try finding me textures for stuff that doesn't exist, and no AI is not a solution)I really can't be bothered learning to draw just for some low poly shit, so it's over
>>698204205looks cool anon
>>698208846is that part of the slam dingo game? or is this a another project?
i'm in the very beginnings of game development. i'm sure at some point i'll get into more complex tasks like 3d modeling and painting.
>>698216038I like your work anon. You should keep going. You can use already existing textures and just photoshop them into new textures. No drawing required
>>698173132Let's see...>ArtDecent at best>MusicHaven't composed anything>CodingLittle experience>3D ModelingStill don't know how to use program
>>698216038i think it has charm.
I've been depressionmaxxing hard this year. I think I need like adderall or something.
any 3D level design courses, videos or tips?I hit a wall, I thought it would be easier to make levels for my little puzzle game but it's no Portal.
>>698216175I've tried but it's just a crapsoot. texturing basic objects is easy enough, but when it comes to characters it's a nightmarehow do I make a texture for a goblin's face, or a zombified goblin, or fucking anything more complex than just a default human? I can't find textures for any of that stuff, even if I do try and photoshop my way into it. at some point it requires drawing ability
>>698192153>What's a straightforward music programLMMS. It's very sequencer-like, just like this song
NTA but where do you even get started with music?Just randomly mash notes together? What do you need to learn?
>>698216658https://openedsource.medium.com/kish%C5%8Dtenketsu-hakoniwa-dd5a568da169https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtUG_blZ7isi know of a better video about this but it´s in spicspeech though. Alternatively just copy levels from games and mods, you´d be surprised how many metroidvanias are just rearranged frankensteins of others if youre autistic enough
>>698216038This is better than most game art I've seen on 4chins>low poly or even mid poly requires decent texture workGradient textures can do a lot of heavy lifting.
>>698216676You can learn specifically the art skills you need just for your texturing. i.e. you won't need to learn perspective for example or proportions foreshortening when drawing textures compared to traditional artists, meaning you can get it done faster than it takes to learn drawing from scratch.But I feel you, I too gave up 3D because I felt that my lack of drawing skills was holding my modeling back. Now I'm just doing pixel art.
>>698217519Not that anon but could you expand on gradient textures? What are you referring to? t. Trying to improve my mid poly texturing.
>>698173132I'm not a good artist at all, I've always focused on programming (not good at that either to be fair). But even I can do something like this.Honestly, 3D art isn't that hard if you understand the software, use references and know a few basic techniques. If I can do it anyone can. (If you ask me, making textures is a lot harder)
Does Blender have the worst interface of all time?
>>698217947I like it in general, except some parts like the vertex group lists and similar and the animation but they should be improving that next year.
>>698217947Yes. Blender is probably the worst piece of software I've ever used. If you want to see something funny, take a look at it's list of shortcuts. That shit is so long they ran out of short combinations to use, and some of them you got to hold shit like alt+shift+control+tab+a+b+c+d+e+f+h, like who the fuck even has that many fingers?
>>698217460thanks anon, and yeah i copied some parts of levels from other games but it's not easy to stick them together with mine and make them work. I'll need to play more games for that>i know of a better video about this but it´s in spicspeech thoughoh please link it
The game I'm working on is such a good idea I'll be open about it.Imagine DotA but a singleplayer RPG designed to be beaten in an hour. If you've played Angel Arena or a lot of that cool singleplayer adventure map that shipped with War3 you probably have a good idea of what I'm going for. Closer to whatever that map was called fuck I loved that shit.
>>698217841probably referring to this. you just make the gradients in photoshop (would recommend taking a color palette from Lospec), use Project from View after pressing 1 or 3 on the numpad and then stretch it out to fit. requires zero knowledge of UV unwrapping or anything and looks a bit better than entirely flat colors if you wanted a certain part of a mesh to look like it has a highlight, like a bevelled edge or a chip in some wood, then you'd move the UV of that face up to the highest part of the gradient I think the application is limited though, since it limits you to sort of cartoony aesthetics. it's what I did in the top-right of >>698216038 with the treehttps://youtu.be/EIxwWGj28_s?si=inN2h1GW44EPVpsm
I don't know if I have talent. But I can still try to make my game.
Is there any mouse on the market that has a middle button that doesn't break in like 3 months? Such a thing would be great for 3D modeling.
>>698173132NoI have the skill and talents but I don't dream anymore
>>698217275
Can someone with knowledge in here please tell me how to fix zero faces, thin faces and overhang faces without ruining a model?I made a bunch of basic models for my game and was happy with them, but then heard about zero faces and thought I should check. Apparently all my models have them, and there are no helpful tutorials out there.
>>698215512>honest russianskek
>>698216676just take a human skin texture and photoshop it
>>698217275can you not go to /mu/'s music production threads and read their OP paste or /g/'s digital music production OP paste?>>>/g/dmp>>>/mu/prod
>>698219219>/prod/ forgot to put resource links in their OPthey're reatards, don't mind them. check the archives.
>>698215512>with us honest russiansDon't you have a meatgrinder to go get blown up in for Daddy Putin?
put 'zero faces blender' in YT or something, jesus christ anon please use your fucking brainno i'm not linking it.you need to be using your own brain to solve these problems. holy fuck.
>>698219496for >>698218758
>>698217867the issue only arises when you're an realism and skill obsessed artist like me so i'm never satisfied which is frustrating, that said i put 3D aside to learn game dev and just focused on 2D
>blender has no real-time vertex color lighting fucking why? it's the most primitive and simple type of lighting to exist, and it's already built into it somewhere since you can bake lights into vertex colors I don't wanna have to import my shit into Godot all the time, and I probably can't take as decent screenshots in Godot either
>>698218367>Imagine DotA but a singleplayer RPG designed to be beaten in an hour. If you've played Angel Arena or a lot of that cool singleplayer adventure map that shipped with War3 you probably have a good idea of what I'm going for. Closer to whatever that map was called fuck I loved that shit.Yeah I know exactly what you're talking about, but I don't think you're going to finish it. It was possible in Warcraft 3 only because of the sheer amount of assets that game had that you could use. It would take you years to make something on a similar scope.
i still refuse to believe that the astartes animated video was made by just one guy
>tfw scared to update blender since I might have to reinstall all of my add-ons, including ones that require a key like Quad Remesher
>>698199763Yakuza looking mofo
>>698214645My condolences bro...I don't really care about your game but I hope you will finish it. Marry Christmas!
>>698214645Oh hey, you were the medabots lewd game guy right?
>>698216658here you go anonhttps://youtu.be/AKeUZVikPV8?si=pHjoosMbpZ5zoYJzhttps://youtu.be/QBAM27YbKZg?si=R1MxeZNcUTWyjgSyhttps://youtu.be/CkHGuHd9BgU?si=AlXtwAHLfhasTdz-https://youtu.be/R75g3elj7y4?si=FLqZl_9m9XIrXuWNhttps://youtu.be/09r1B9cVEQY?si=YSL-twxaoZSZsZ5Jhttps://gdcvault.com/play/1023581/Action-Games-Without-Borders-Making
>know the basics of ue5 (blueprints and copying shit from guides)>can make music>like fps gameshow hard would it be to make a generic room/arena based boomer shooter like ultrakill/serious sam that's really basic and with dynamic soundtrack handling like doom eternal like just a basic prototype of a corridor leading to an arena, door closes and some waves spawn and then you fight a big guy and the music amps up, could you do that in less than a month from scratch if you had to learn everything like the custom script for a sound engine to alter what track it plays depending on the context if you've NEVER made anything resembling a game
>>698216038What are you talking about? Your models look awesome! Not every lowpoly model needs a texture! If you like making them then don't stop!
>>698215512>honest russiansNice oxymoron bro
Any animator here? What's the best way to learn and practice as a beginner?
>>698173406>I am shit at socializing so I can't rope in other people to handle the shit I can't do in a game project.Fiverr my dude. Pay people to do the work.
>>698220023just watch this videohttps://youtu.be/-GyDjoyBQ3o?si=MFIeS3S89DevMuDvthen just learn more about Unreal's modelling mode
>>698220216mapping is like 1% of the work
>>698220337in AAA games, yes, but not in basic low budget games like ultrakill and serious sam
I can model, rig and animate good enough for the shitty indie fake ps1 style gamesshit at texturing.my biggest enemy is my laziness.
>>698219995Bedabots!
>>698220421mapping at a basic level is literally just putting legos together, but i meant for someone with no prior experience, the systems are 99% of the work because there are things you can't just look up and copy from others, or if you can just look up a guide but it doesn't feel the way you imagined you are left to experimentation and fumbling around
>>698217947Zbrush exists.
>>698176214>>698176350holy based
>>698173132how can make look like pokemon from village computer, sir?
>>698176860bro did you make these?kino as fuck please make a game NOW!!!!
>>698220780every creative work is like that. Your initial concept won't translate 100% in the final game.
>>698220693Any tips for designing robots similar to medabots?
>>698218287https://youtu.be/1W1OEdDIFgs?si=QzebaAz-WvGkOmuVdude is kind of a grifter but he does say some useful things every once in a while
>>698221031Neck yourself.
>>698221543that's not english
>>698220009>>698221543kek thanks guys, while watching these I came up with an idea and I'm no longer stuck
>>698219373Did you know that the overwhelming majority of the Russian population, even if you count only men, are not currently serving in their country's military?
>>698222346read the posts
>tfw constantly falling into "4chan and music" dopamine hole that I can't get out ofpls help me
>>698215512>UKRAINE IS AN ARTIFICIAL COUNTRY. THIS IS OUR LAND>D-DON'T LUMP US TOGETHER WITH PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON THAT LAND! WE'RE JUST HONEST RUSSIANS!
>>698204194i waste my talent on things very few people get to enjoy. i like doing things to make people happy but don't want the spotlight. i just want..little bit of attention. just enough to make me feel like what i do is worth it, like i'm needed, but of course, because i avoid attention i remain invisible. such is life
>>698174338Mastering the ass backwards retarded programs used to create the art and interact with the game engine
>>698212530>>698196458tfw no slave ideafag to come up with great ideas for me to execute :(
>>698222547good luck with the level design anon
>>698196458>>698212530>>698224849
>>698173132No such thing as talent
Wrong thread, whoops.
>>698225497You're right, collabs are gay.
>>698175846
>>698221046Already working on something, check it out:https://nrasko.itch.io/the-frydarian-tale
>>698226590>That webmLol you shouldn't have.
>>698173132>This isn't you, is it?It absolutely is. Maybe not so much the 0 skill part, but the more I spend daydreaming about cool ideas the less I actually put them on paper. I don't know if I'm just afraid of failing my expectations or just sheer laziness, but it sucks.Hell, I don't even think I'm that bad at art. I made some good progress a year ago, but this year has been a real slump.Picrel is the last thing I drew months ago.
>>698176394Like others have mentioned- with video game models it's 70% about textures.
>>698227658yeah. being an artlet sucks
>>698173132It is me, though I do have some art skills just not enough to make any of the things I dream of yet.
>>698227809How to texture paint in blender?
>>698173132>that anon who constantly daydreamsyes, that's me, with a lot of things. chasing my dreams, getting a partner, creating a family, getting a proper job.I need my mind occupied while wageslaving for Mr shekelberg and I'm too lazy and cowardly to actually do the things I dream about doing.Merry Christmas anons
>>698227058Kino facemask design.
>>698175568fygoon looks hot and I want to fuck him
>>698228286https://youtu.be/fsLO1F5x7yM?si=yOZiCv_D5rZn1SCf&t=896
>>698228825Whoa, calm down there, Laura.
wonder how long it'd take to learn to make pixel art at this level as a total drawlet. pic related is unused Alien Soldier sprites
>>698228743Thanks. I just put helmets on my figures if I want more than an egg. Faces are hard.
>>698228286Ive heard good things about a plugin called UCUpaint. If you've got a cracked copy of photoshop laying about I'd also advise looking into Blenders super duper secret technique; "Quick Edit" it basically takes a picture of the model and shunts it off to your image editor of choice. You paint over the top and punt it back into Blender again. Noone knows its there but it works great.
>>698227058It's... not afraid?
>>698229327wasn't Alien Solider made by one guy?
>>698229841he tried it that way yeah, but had to bring on more people towards the end
>>698229327the trick is to start simple and keep adding details until it looks good
I'm definitely working on mine, but I'm taking a break for a few days for christmas. I'm gonna make a cool platformer with combat like Terraria's and a focus on delving into dungeons and coming out with phat lewt and new spellsLast thing I got working was projectiles picking an appropriate target to bounce to in a given range and using a given priority behaviour (most health, least health, closest, furthest, or just completely random)
>>698173132That's me!Whether I think I'll ever actually manage to finish the project and release my game is an entire different subject.
>>698205158bless me with the knowledge of how you get non shitty spikey anime hair. ive tried random selection a sphere and thats the closest i got
>>698223554just replace the 4chan with literally anything else. i usually put on some drum and bass mix or something when working on blender
One day I'll start learning I promise.
>>698229082I fucking hate this reddit faggot
My dream game was like sims but in first person on source engine
>>698181616>chat room somewhere or forumonly slackers approach projects like thisworking people who get things done meet others at universities or other social environments
>>698234140with dark messiah combat
>>698233157I browse 4chan and listen to music at same time, either I get stuck trying to work on art
>>698227058The problem is that assets and concepts are two different things. You can make cool concepts like your pic but it's not useful in a videogame unless it's somehow made into an asset.I know these talented people that are really good at assets, so I gave them concepts for assets I would need along with the code overview and justification for their existence. Keep in mind I intentionally did my concepts with low details just so I could get a good example of their artistic impressions.I would recommend collaborating with someone so you can get both conceptual and artistic work done as long as someone is also able to get a functional codebase working. Of course you need to figure out what kind of things you actually wanna make/conceptualize and what things the other person should do.
>>698173132>that anon who constantly daydreams about making his "dream game"I'm gonna go ahead and slap a NDA on myself since I had sound designers and modelers working on this, but when I was working on this game revolving around minigames, I would daydream about it at my part time job, then come home to perfectly implement what I daydream in a minigame.I'm not working on it anymore due to the team wanting me to pick it back up on another engine at a later date but now I daydream about the project I'm currently working on, but due to the nature of the game mechanics, it's a lot more technical than it is about being creative. I honestly love thinking about making stuff but I'm only ever happy about it if I'm actually working on it, as I am a big realist.
>>698200152Kill yourself
I tried making a simple Unity game over the last couple of years, but I have no background with 3d art - I’m a programmer. Got bored a few weeks back and started making a game in Roblox studio and it’s nearly complete. I just used assets from the market place. Despite this, handling art takes by far the most time in game development for me. Usually when I code, I can have something written and ready to test and debug in 10 minutes. You get a lot of progress going very quickly that you can actually interact with. It’s rewarding.I can spend two days setting up art assets and have not done a single thing to actually progress my game. It’s annoying.
>>698173406Cool designs. Anon's games are the best games.
how2get better at pixel art?
>>698237546do more pixel art
>>698237546Just hire an Indonesian.
>>698199763you look like the side character of a modern rpg whose geeky but actually pretty strong.
>always been shit at art since early childhood>good at coding and okay at mathi can always code the groundwork for my game like the boilerplate and shit, but then i always quit at the graphics part. not only that but i need to know how to compose tracks to make music for my game.. how do some indies fill all these bases? they're like gods to me
>>698238504they usually look for free shit online or ask others on forums for help. dont beat yourself up use your strengths and resources
>>698237546>take 32-64 size color palettes from Lospec >work at low resolutions, 8x8 or 16x16 >replicate the style from games you like. retro consoles like NES, SNES etc are easiest >use Spriters Resource to find sprites from the games you want to study >consider getting Aseprite if you don't have it already, it's specifically designed for pixel art and used by most people that make it also learn to drawhere are some good resources: https://www.youtube.com/@BJGpixel/videoshttps://www.slynyrd.com/pixelblog-cataloguehttps://www.derekyu.com/makegames/pixelart.htmlhttps://www.spriters-resource.com/
>>698238504People who can't draw either go into 3D or just learn pixel art.Pixelart is relatively easy, just overdone to death.
>>698215512You people are like fucking Indians where if one gets caught being a retard they immediately say it was actually a Pakistani/Bangladeshi. Kill all Rusniggers. Please bring me this, Santa.
>>698173132I am completely talentless and a failure artistically, but I will not stop till the fucker is finished.
>>698197560nigger im not saying programming is easy but with all the resources nowadays and gpt literally some rural 80iq jeets can make a gamebarrier of entry is non existant
>>698238756>>698239054i guess trying to put the focus on something other than my game's art would be correct, but i always feel like i'm coping when i say "well if the gameplay is good enough these minimalist graphics are fine". an artist i've been following for a while has started making a game recently and it looks really good. graphically and gameplay-wise. can't help but feel a bit worthless in comparison still gonna try to practice sometimes
>>698239879i think i know what artist your talking about but even he gets advice from others. its not a one man show
>>698240062well, that's probably true. i just hope i can get somewhat close to his level. maybe one day i'll post my game here and we can all playtest it or something. i can dream
>>698238951Funnily enough, I had already come across all of those. But I guess starting over won't hurt. I'll go from the very beginning again.
>>698173132FUCKHow did you know?
>>698173298Delete it. Fuck him.
