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Is /v/ hyped for Genshin's next Archon?
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>>698305796
No. He bike, costume, role in story and gameplay is not good.
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>>698305796
Remember when Genshin was a medieval fantasy game?
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>>698305796
no
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>>698307226
That's the bike from Akira.
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>>698305796
A little bit, I'm more hyped for Citlali
Her 2 minute video mogged Mauvika's short animation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmmfXWOvSU0
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hands off the hat!
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>>698305796
>>698307226
>Remember when Genshin was a medieval fantasy game?
Sorry, chud, THIS is the new Genshin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KxK37KN7Hk
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>>698305796
I'll roll her c0 but I'm more interesting in clitlali
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>>698307612
the favela hooker should get as much hate as mavuika
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>>698305796
looks like I was right to jump ship after sumeru
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>>698307226
>Remember when Genshin was a medieval fantasy game?
Nope
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>>698307226
It hasnt been since the floating fortress in liyue
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>>698307921
the jade chamber floats with the help of magic crystals lol
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>>698307856
Holy science! A stone and wood golem! This must have been made by such an advanced civilization.
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>>698307958
And the bike is powered by magic not jet fuel
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>>698307226
>muh fantasy game
there was hints to all of this stuff from day one. the main character is a space traveler for crying out loud.
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>>698305796
Yes
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>>698305796
I am pretty hype. Natlan character's traversal abilities revitalized my love for the game and I'm excited to build Mavuika's team
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>>698308140
With the bike it's really a matter of aesthetic clash, all of Natlan is a gross clash with Genshin's previous style since it's so modern. The degree of clash varies from the sort of alright drill that the geo midge rides around in, to the kinda ugly roller blades the hooker wears, to the super clash that is the modrn as fuck looking motorbike. Just compare Citlali's mothod of transportation to BikerArchon's, one is a fantastical magic carpet and the other I'll see on the street if I drive for a bit.

Skipping BikerArchon, Rolling for Citlali.
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>>698305796
If she didn't fight with the bike like its some kind of centaur maybe, but that looks retarded to me
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>>698308410
Goalpost status
[x] moved
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>>698305796
>>698307226
I love women in their mid-30s.
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>>698308410
This

It's really bad in Natlan because you have shit straight out of our world and the lore behind it is just "Xilolen made it lol"
Compare that to Fontaine where even "modern" tech is covered in a steampunk/gearpunk aesthetic and has 500 years of in universe development
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>>698305796
I look forward riding sick donuts over my enemies, yes.
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>>698308791
That was my first post in the thread dumb nigger.

>>698308819
Exactly, the Fontaine shit, the ancient tech shit from before Fontaine, all that shit is advanced but fits more because it doesn't look exactly like something at my local Suzuki dealer. I'm fine with BikerArchon riding something, but this ain't it. It doesn't help that her outfit looks out of place, her move set looks silly, and her personality is nowhere to be seen. Easiest skip of my life.
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>>698309004
>It doesn't help that her outfit looks out of place
To elaborate on this point, she's wearing fucking road leathers in a country with no pathed roads in a setting where she's the only motor bike enthusiast, lmao. She'd fit a fucking racing game more than Genshin.
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>nooooo muh realism, muh lore accuracy
yawn
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The NightSoul aesthetic in general was retarded enough for me that I just turn my brain off for anything else.
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>>698309301
It's about aesthetic consistency you tasteless nigger. Natlan has been a serious step down from all other regions in that regard
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Oh hey I know this fag, he’s the WuWa shill. At least post Rover’s armpits and sideboob if you’re going to samefag in this thread dude.
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>>698307226
Do they even have paved roads for somebody to ride a motorbike on?
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>>698309762
Not in Natlan lmfao
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>>698308410
People who are not getting your point are just being childish, you couldn't have made it clearer
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>>698305796
People still play Genshin in 2024, after Wuthering Waves mogged the shit out of it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Pz-GNuozWY&t=3s
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Hi, it's Mavuika with Slap Chop

You’re going to be in a great mood all day, because you’re going be slapping your troubles away with the Slap Chop. Now, look here’s a potato. One slap you got big chunks for stew, two slaps home fries in a second. And, look at this when you add a mushroom: the more you do it, the finer it gets you don’t have to switch any blades.

Now, you love salad -- you hate making it. You know you hate making salads -- that’s why you don’t have any salad in your diet. Watch this one slap... salad! I love Pizza too, but once in a while get the veggies in, at least throw it on top of the pizza.

You’re going to change your eating habits. Soup, Coleslaw, stuff we want, 5 seconds. 4 or 5 seconds, it's done. This thing, this tuna looks boring. Stop having a boring tuna, stop having a boring life. Add this tuna putting it in like this now you’re going to have a nice, tuna, salad. Look at this you’re going to have an exciting life now.

Look here’s a hard boiled egg. One chop, you add the pickle; you add the green onion. And what you can do is mix things together add the ham and you’re going to love this. You don’t have time to make breakfast, breakfast to go.

You’re going to love my nuts. Watch this: almonds, walnuts. Comes with a cover so you can do everything in the cover. Alright, or you can do it on the board, whatever you like. So easy, one finger, if I can do it with one finger you guys can do it with your whole hand. Kids can do it. You know what they charge at the ice cream store? A dollar for toppings at the ice cream store. Add a couple cookies if you want. So, you can make it for 10 cents. Stop throwing your money away. You know not only nuts what about fruit? Put a mango, look at that isn’t that beautiful on your ice cream.
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>>698305796
Fuck no and her reveal made me quit the game again.
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Nope, not at all.

You think I am still hyped about Archons, when Skirk (lorewise) is already above them in fighting power?
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>>698305796
>ANOTHER on field pyro DPS
fuck no
I'm never replacing Hu Tao
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>>698307856
That one makes sense since they ripped off the concept of ancient tech from zelda
Now they try to make their own "original" take with >>698307226 and it ends up making the game bleed players lmao
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I don't care about Genshin but I will masturbate to this new Himeko. Most likely a lot.
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>>698310462
Honkai powerlevel faggotry is the gayest thing to happen to Genshin
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>>698309847
Merry Christmas reasonable anon.
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>>698310540
Ruin Golem already mogged Zelda tech but still fit with the Khaenri'ah aesthetic
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All I wanted was for him to be the strongest, for him to be a cool antagonist and for him to be playable.

And I've got absolutely nothing.
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>>698310634
Merry christmas anon, thank you
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>>698305796
Why does a magical fantasy land have a character that rides around in a motorcycle.
It's weird because in Zenless Zone Zero, you have a character who is a leader of a biker gang, you know someone who would make sense to ride a motorcycle into battle, but instead she wields a standard sword and shield something a gladiator (Natlan's world) wields into battle.
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>>698308140
It looks pretty much like a sci fi bike. Comapre it to this golem >>698307856
if the bike looked more magical/fantasy styled people wouldn't have that big a problem with it
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>>698309915
>generic 3D shit vs cell shaded anime style
Are you retarded or just pretending?
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technology is okay if it gets a magic filter
the motorbike looks like your regular ducati, therefore its not okay
the same goes for the dj turntable
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>>698310617
It was bound to happen, but not sure about the timing though.

Archons were nothing but chess pieces for the folks of Celestia.
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>>698308140
>add pic related to a fantasy game
>"akshully it's powered by magic and not gas"
Fuck you.
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>>698311090
It's more of how it was introduced that rubs me the wrong way
>yeah this nation ending calamity is actually my master's pet, I'm just here to fetch it"
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>>698311156
Genhsin's writing has always been mediocre to bad, I had no faith that they'd handle major stake elevation well since even good authors struggle with that. I'm honestly looking forward to just how retarded everything is going to get with the powerlevels skyrocketing past Archon soon enough.
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>>698307226
nope
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>>698311538
>magic dolls (trope seen many times in fantasy) are the same as a fucking motorbike
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>>698311595
>error...
>rebooting...
yeah, sounds very magical to me
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>>698307226
Half of Inazuma is just modern Japan. It has everything from plastic cups to robots. But it gets a pass just because.
Also people are going to shit themselves when the fact dragons were a spacefaring civilization is brought into the main story.
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>>698310540
>it ends up making the game bleed players lmao
Source?
No, schizo calculations based on unverifiable numbers on some fourth party website isn't a source.
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>>698312415
Not that anon, but if you truly haven't noticed that the game is in decline, there's something very wrong with you
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>>698309847
Lol, people who don't get his point actually play the game and pay attention or actually understand what aesthetic and style ACTUALLY is.
>MuH BiKe dOnT fIT
Looks identical in design to every single ancient dragon item, automation, and whatever else introduced in the entire region. In fact looks identical in style to all Unified civilization items just more angular.
>CHASCA GUN DONT FIT
Literally just the Fontianian "sniper" scaled up. Take Chevreuse's rifle scale by x5 and power by a vision and phlogiston then paint it. WOW so unprecedented and lore breaking.
I'd go more, but if you already could get this you either A.Dont play the game or B.Lack the most basic of critical thinking skills to even think and rationalize what you see
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>>698312415
You realize revenue isn't the only source of popularity right?
The game literally used to print fanart(and before the AIslop era) because everyone was playing it, now is getting jackshit
And don't get me started with the fact their trailers can't even reach 10m views anymore
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>>698312572
not reading all that but you're essentially proving his point
>you don't play the game!!!
this is a child throwing a tantrum
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>>698312265
>Half of Inazuma is just modern Japan
One faggot no one rolled for with a cup of boba and the Archon and her puppets is not "half of Inazuma".
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thieving bitch
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>>698309762
I wonder what those magical sky bridges that they made a poignant point of showing and explaining in 5.0 that connect all over NATLAN are for. Good thing they didn't show in the 5.3 trailer Mavuika riding on them across the sky like phlogiston layline highway they've always been surpassing the need conventional roads. I can't tell if people here don't play or just don't think.
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>>698307226
I don't mind people disliking this, but if you hate mavuika's bike you better hate stuff like Scara's fucking Mecha
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>>698312697
>Educate someone on something they're misinformed on
>Umm ackshulay this is child like behavior
>Also I'm not reading all that
The idea of calling any behavior childish with that response equivalent of plugging your ears going lalala is PALPABLE levels of irony. Please grow up.
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Bike aside, she has no personality.
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>>698314002
that's every genshin character
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>>698313451
you didn't educate anyone, you gave your opinion and nobody took it seriously kek
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>>698314085
*that's every woman
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>>698307226
>they have digital cameras with filters, sentient humanoid puppets, androids and even real tamagotchis, mechas, a giant megazord god, literal Google glass full of information, a giant shotgun and many Cloud Retainer inventions
>a motorcycle is the immersion break

heh... I find more strange that there are no horses in Teyvat but there is a robo centaur
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>>698305796
220 rolls is enough for both but I will start with granny
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>>698305796
She made me quit the game. I had even pre-farmed all her mats and had a good obsidian codex set for her. Finding out she's only good with other Natlan chars I don't care about was the nail in the coffin.
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>>698314763
>is enough for both
enjoy losing 2 50/50 in a row lol
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im here for granny
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>>698314763
>220 rolls is enough for both
not in the worst case scenario it isn't
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>>698307226
>Remember when Genshin was a medieval fantasy game?
Remember when we helped fight off a giant hydra in not-China by protecting ballistae that were blasting it with lasers from not-Russians that included dudes with sniper rifles and Space Marine style jet powered fists?
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>>698314863
Jokes on you I already lost 2 while getting both Mualani and Xilonen. The mathematical odds of losing another 50/50 is close to impossible. (Yes I know cope mode engaged)
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I currently have ~180 wishes
I want both
I hope I win at least one coinflip, I'm willing to pay up to $100
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>>698314570
>many Cloud Retainer inventions
>a motorcycle is the immersion break
Not to mention one of her inventions was an actual motorcycle
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>>698315048
mathematical odds don't mean shit, i've lost 8 coinflips in a row
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>>698315468
Cloud Retainers inventions all went through a magic/fantasy filter. The motorbike didn't.
Its THAT simple
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>>698310540
>ripped off the concept of ancient tech from zelda
You ignorant fuck
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>>698315048
You should read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy

You can't factor in your previous bets in this scenario, they do not change the likelihood of future outcomes since they already happened.
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>>698307226
The game is set in the same fucking cosmology as Honkai Impact and HSR, with a bunch of stuff well before the motorbike being high tech/magitech. You should have expected this.
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>>698315586
>Cloud Retainers inventions all went through a magic/fantasy filter. The motorbike didn't.
The motorbike powered with Nightsoul energy and phlogiston?
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>>698315764
See >>698311102
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>>698315764
>The motorbike powered with Nightsoul energy and phlogiston?
Looks too modern/silly/unfitting as is repeated over and over yet ignored for some reason.
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Why does /v/ hate biker girls so much?
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Wait, If I select one of the 2 featured weapons from the weapon banner and I get the other featured one instead, does it count as losing the 75/25 and therefore I'll get a fate point to guarantee the selected weapon for the next pity?
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>>698312697
>closes his ears
>acts like a literal child by not reading what's posted in front of him
>thinks he 'won' the argument
All schizos should have their families and pets gaped in front of them.
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>>698315871
>Why does /v/ hate biker girls so much?
Inferior taste.
I, for one, love my biker wine aunt.
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>>698315952
if you select x and get y (or a standard banner weapon)
the next time you get a weapon its guaranteed to be the one you choose, as long as the banner is still on
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>>698315871
I don't even mind the bike, I just really don't like how extremely restrictive her kit is.
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>>698316009
>and pets gaped
Now that's an odd place to go.
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Is her off field pyro application gonna be enough to replace Thoma in my Wrio Burnmelt team?
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You antibikers might be able to defend ruin sentinels, but not the fucking heat seeking missiles they shoot.
You also ignore 2 regions ago having fucking Internet Wikipedia Headphones.
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>>698316235
>melt
no
>burnmelt
yes
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If the bike looked like this, would you still cry about it?
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>>698316248
You think these schizos actually play the fucking game? They just get all their talking points from Twitter or YouTube video-essayists.
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>>698316346
She should have ridden a dragon or a phoenix or some shit, her design is fucking awful from the base concept of "Biker". I'd take the leaked Spaniard Bullfighter Pyro Archon over this shit.
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>>698307226
I don't mind her having the bike but I hate that all her important attacks use it. Shit looks goofy.
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>>698316278
I'll compare the numbers since Thoma's C6 does increase my damage a bit.
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>>698293253
Dragons didn't evolve into humans, it's a delusion from the gay dragon.
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>>698316653
the damage output will probably be increased anyways because she's very strong, much stronger
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>>698316725
Didnt they "devolve" into saurians, same as the hilichurl curse?
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>>698316725
>Dragons didn't evolve into humans,
At least some did, we learned that in Enkanomiya
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>>698307226
My problem is the motorcycle is too close to our motorcycles. If it was a futuristic hoverbike that looked like the robots in Natlan it would make more sense. As it is it sounds like it has an internal combustion engine while nothing else in Teyvat has one.
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>>698315696
>Muh honkai
Noone cares about their multiverse crap. Genshin was a medieval/early renaissance fantasy with sone anachronistic stuff but now suddenly there are bikes and sound mixers. Even Chascas gun is ok because the fatui had guns from the start, but the motorcycle had zero precedent.
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>>698316873
Natlan theme is a mix of old cultures (pre columbine America and several other shitholes) with a urban theme (grafittis, break dancing, surfing...)
Its the region thing, there is not much point into thinking about lore

But if we get anal about it we can read about how Natlan phlogiston is a way to "democratize" or free elemental powered tech that was exclusive to archons/adepti in other regions (Fontaine mechs were powered by energy created by the archon)
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>>698310462
I'd say Skirk is about the power level of a Dragon Sovereign (Neuvillette), who himself is above an Archon.

She's tied with the strongest playable character (in lore) in the game, but still a level beneath Surtalogi.
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>>698317125
>Even Chascas gun is ok because the fatui had guns from the start
No, you see, they've got rudimentary guns so that means it'd be fine to put in something like a P90 or perhaps a M1 Abrams since they also have canons as you can see in Navia's Q.
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>>698310772
At least the cope you get now is that he's weakened because he's immortal, but got goofed on by Pierro and Dainsleif, so he's a weak, rotten skelly. In his peak, he was probably very strong, stronger than even the Archons.
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>>698317125
>but the motorcycle had zero precedent.
sure it did
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>>698314247
>Opinion
>Objective facts backed by the game
Yeah you must be a twitter troon or something of the equivalent mental adjacency
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>>698317658
If it was made by CR do you think it would look as out of place as this does?
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>>698317708
You're wasting your time talking to people who will blindly defend any slop
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>>698317708
Yes, it would practically identical, but you'd hand wave it away by saying
>Oh Chinese magic did it so it's aesthetically sound and fits the theme"
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>>698317884
>Yes, it would practically identical
If the designer was a shitty retard like you maybe.
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>>698317932
Well at least weve almost gotten you on track to realizing that the creative team and lead designer has been the same in every single region since 1.0
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>>698317708
>but it doesn't count!
ok
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>>698317708
>If it was made by CR do you think it would look as out of place as this does?
The only difference is that it would be in her colors with maybe a wing motif on the sides.
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>>698318072
No single person is responsible for every design in Genshin, there is a whole team of people designing shit, and some shit gets okayed that shouldn't. You can like the ugly design but I sure as shit won't I don't care if there is a precedent for it or not.

>>698318192
That's not what I was implying at all retard, it could be fine if the design wasn't shit was the implication.
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The only good bike-related content mihomo put out was a boss

I hope we fucking murder lucius for it.
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>>698317125
>Noone cares about their multiverse crap
If you pretend to give a fuck about the game, you should, or you can keep looking like an idiot.
>Genshin was a medieval/early renaissance fantasy with sone anachronistic stuff but
Beyond retarded to ignore the lore and setting of the entire universe which contains everything from honkai to star rail to genshin and then autistically focus on only one bubble in the whole universe and shit your pants on the yak herding forum about it.
Yes, dumbass, the fucking genshin bubble thingy was muh medieval kinooooooo but both twins came from fucking space and in the first few seconds of the game which you never played shit like picrelated is happening. If you had played the game you're shitposting about you would have already known that.

Moreover, in the last patch the fucking sky breaks and you see destroyed planets, so the whole genshin world is part of a high tech simulation of sorts, with other characters remarking years ago in the story that the sky is fake.

tl;dr eat shit and die
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>>698309915
This image always makes me chuckle
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>>698317101
>Natlan has to be primitive and the game can NEVER have tech resembling our world
Why
>Because their brown and uhhh
Love this argument. Can't wait until they have us go deeper into the hyper advanced civilization Natlans built on top of and has influced their tech and aesthetic since before humans could even talk and introduce the dragon races Void Shuttles IE: spaceships.
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>>698309915
wuwa mogs itself with its retarded designs. how the fuck do those stupid hair rings stay in place? huh?
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>>698317708
It would probably look like a bird instead of a dragon, but yeah, something like that. Right down to using “Adeptal Energy” or whatever in place of Phlogiston too.
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imagine if mavuika rode a dragon instead of a 2025 bugatti tourbillon motorbike
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>>698315871
I don't hate bike girls, I just don't care about them, but I do feel that it looks stupid in genshin.
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>>698307226
I was hoping natlan was gonna be more modern, but like in a wild west cowboy way not a fucking 'heres a leftover character from zenless/star rail' way.
genuinely looks retarded for the game she's in
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>>698318736
Okay now we have clunky DRAGON vehicle combat. What changed ?
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>>698318332
>That's not what I was implying at all retard,
>the motorycycle has no precedent
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>>698318653
I wish it looked more like a dragon, I wouldn't hate it so much if it didn't scream modern bike so hard. It's so god damn ugly, can't wait to be out of Natlan, the nature parts are nice but the culture design sf sometimes awful.

>>698318819
My eyes are less offended and I might consider rolling for her, perhaps you can just have the dragon do simultaneous attacks instead of her flinging it around like she does with her retarded bike.
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>>698318884
Of course you're a retard that doesn't understand that this is a conversation with more than two people in it, that wasn't my post you stupid fucking nigger, this is an open conversation with numerous people in it.
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>>698318889
>have the dragon do simultaneous attacks instead of her flinging it around like she does with her retarded bike.
That's a wonderful point, actually. Her doing all that stupid shit with the bike is ridiculous
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>>698315684
You n00bs seriously think you need literal 90 rolls to get a golden star? Math? Kiss my ass. Gambling is about piercing the god of rng right in the heart and knowing how to do it. You are talking to a motherfucker who pulled off getting 5 5* in a row back to back including weapons without a single skyward spook. Git gud
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>>698319057
Go home Citlali, you're drunk.
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>>698319034
>Her doing all that stupid shit with the bike is ridiculous
I started fucking laughing when I first saw her attack string leak, so fucking silly it's crazy. Clown fucking Archon.
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>>698309915
As of present, Wuwa has 23 characters. Of those only 1 is an "animal person", being Lingyang. There's an AI, a few "elves", but the rest are normal.

Genshin has quite a lot of "animal people", of both genders. They might go or not go into heat sometimes, so by this point Genshin is superior.
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>>698318791
You can see the bleeding from each game slowly coming in. Fontaine's Remeria for no reason resembled Penacony just because. In HSR Penacony's 2.7 had too much ZZZ aesthetic. Now Natlan has way too much ZZZ in it too. Hell even the character demos if youve paided any attention have the SAME KALEIDOSCOPIC EYE RAPE transitions. Started with Sparkle and has been in all, but one trailer where they couldn't fit it.
I've seen no one at all address it but there is some serious overlap in some part of the creative team. I'm going to assume it's a either a creative lead tasked with managing multiple teams from different games bundling the aesthetic, or it's too little artist being pulled from project to project to met deadlines and not being able to code switch from their previous work. It's becoming a problem will probably only get worse the games or more content for those games the push out.
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>>698319269
Yeah, I would be less offended if she actually used her sword instead. Keep the stupid bike just for mobility
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>>698319407
Tbf probably they assumed we would be getting Diluc 2 in that case?
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>>698319407
I'll say it the bike should've been her E it spins around doing sentient off field damage and her ULTIMATE should have been her going super saiyan punching shit, like dehya but not with the Genshin brown character level of power.
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>>698317373
the argument doesn't even make sense because no bike from our world looks or functions like hers.
people don't think about it, but instead of meaning "it looks like a bike from our world" they should mean "it looks like a bike from our world's anime". otherwise it's like saying that one purple spike throwing gun from the halo franchise looks like "from our world"
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>>698310540
holy SHIT how much of a fucking uncultured swine do you have to be to believe this in any way shape or form? There is NOTHING original in BOTW artistic wise. NOTHING AT ALL.
READ MORE BOOKS
WATCH MORE MOVIES
KNOW MORE PEOPLE
PLAY MORE GAMES
gdi, the smartphone generation ladies and gents
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Here's another thing...
>most (if not all) Mavuika teams require Bennett
Hoyoslurpers, your response?
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>>698319869
My response is merry christmas enjoy a day off doomcel
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>>698319869
I don’t really use Bennett anyways so that sounds like a (You) problem.
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>>698319869
>your response
Oh wow Genshin Impact has a meta like every other game in existence ? Cool, I won't be doing that.
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>god of war (natlan)
>attacks with her bike instead
i don't care about it being in exploration, i just wish it didn't exist in combat animations. it legit looks like some looney tunes shit
she punches a hole in the sky and we get some bike comedy routine instead
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>>698319869
I have yet to level Benny beyond like 40 and never use him in anything.
I have no intentions of leveling Bennett. He will continue to rot on my roster with an Aquila Favonia (level 1) equipped. You don't need him. He is not required to do any content in the game, not even Spiral unless you're doing some turbopoorfag setup and even then.. it's only a few Primos, just skip it you FOMO'd retard.
>Okay, but what are you gonna run her on
Overload with Chevvy, Raiden, and Ororon.
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>>698320058
Yeah, quite disappointing. I might just end up using her as a Mualani support.
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>>698320058
It's only dumb because it cheapens her as a character.
Even if she summons the bike, the bike is fundamentally the character.
She should've been a puncher like Wriothesley who summons 2 giant gauntlets to beat shit up with and they just have jets on them she can use for mobility.
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>>698319598
Alright let's see

E (press) : Bike ON ITS OWN runs niggas over applying off field PYRO and at the of it's duration burnout doughnut

E(hold) : You ride bike yourself running niggas over and applying pyro. This is mainly for NATLAN travel mechanics and the other gimmicks not very practical play style but there none the less .

Q: Super Saiyan mode. You punch shit and apply 1u of pyro PER HIT with NO ICD on any hit. It's not overpowered she's the fucking pyro archon this should be her baseline.

Normal Attacks: Beautiful and master crafted animation that ooze style and personality. Make sure no part of her kit uses her normal attacks and they're always a DPS lost in the best case scenario.

Passive : Something Something Nightsoul something Natlan Units.

Thoughts ? Opinions ? Peer review? Additive Additions ?
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>her biggest display of power is her PUNCHING the sky
>inexplicably her kit revolves entirely around some bike
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I told you fags this shit was going downhill when Xilonen's trailer was her playing DJ
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>give archon her own weapon
>you won't even see it since she attack with her bike instead
also it's insane how arle got way more love than pyro archon. she got the most unique weapon, animations, some extra abilities like charged attack turning into flying, the BEST animated short so far AND she's top tier dps
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>>698319395
I think it's more a case of them wanting similar themes across their games
A ton of the people I know who play one of their three big gachas also play one, if not both, of the remaining two. They probably want their core players to remain inside their own self-contained gaming ecosystem
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>>698320673
Xilonen is one of the best units in the game, both in utility and SEXO appeal
I dont see your point
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>>698320704
arlecchino's visual effects completely mog mavuika
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>>698320838
she's meta and looks like a whore but she's a dj rollerblade blackssmith
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>>698320851
her visuals mog every character in the game, it's honestly weird how much love she got
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I think it won't hurt to gather some votes here as well.
Godspeed.
https://strawpoll.com/GPgVYV6Jkna
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>>698320909
>she's meta and looks like a whore BUT...
>Im not gay BUT...
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>>698320916
In general, Harbingers get more love than other characters for some reason. Probably because they are literally more present in the story at times than Archons.
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>>698320838
Bro that dj shit has no place in her character
Not a single line of dialog implies she's a party girl or anything similar, quite the opposite in fact
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>>698320704
>Weapon literally has a special bonus effect when wielded by the Archon
>While on-field, she's never using it
This is fucking tragic.
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>>698321062
Don Sombrero is garbage and only fujotards still use him or Childe
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>>698321062
not really, both childe and wanderer are mediocre characters at best
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>>698321234
regardless of your personal feelings, you must be aware that they're popular, yes?
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>>698321294
Compared to who?
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>>698307226
Remember autonomous missile-launching robots?
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>>698321294
Only among freaks
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>>698321338
>>698321402
it is what it is
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>>698321062
Childe got gangbanged by 4 different hydro dps characters already and scara got powercrept by chasca tho.
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The only thing that matters to mihomo is chink's opinion. They loved chasca's flying revolver and love mavuika's bike. They don't care how much westerners seethe about muh immersion!
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>>698305796
>>698307226
Is it just me or have Genshin character designs become super dull?
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>>698321294
what is your point? compared to arle they got waay less love, so it's not like all harbringers get special treatment. where are their animation shorts or unique weapon types?
i said mediocre as in gameplay, childe was (and still is) memed on release and wanderer is a joke
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>>698321136
>>698321234

>Don Sombrero is garbage
Not really. He's quite good in-fact. But I meant the love and effort put into the character, not necessarily their viability, but overall.
>Signora
One of the first major "enemies" we meet in the entire game and continues to be an annoying bitch through a 2nd region too.
>Childe
Has multiple events where he hangs out with us and is overall a major focal point in Liyue on top of Fontaine. He may very well be someone's self-insert. Also given a unique mechanic that hadn't been in any character's kit before. Him being bad is a different issue from him being treated special.
>Wanderer
Is a major focal point in 2 regions and gets featured regularly in events. Also given a unique mechanic that hadn't been in any character's kit before. Also the poster child of fujos, so there's a good reason to keep bringing him back.
>Doc
A huge dickhead that everyone wants to beat up, has fucked with people across Sumeru and Fontaine and probably elsewhere, has tons of weird superpowers and could very well be someone's self-insert.
>Arle
Is a major focal point all throughout Fontaine and has a specialized kit that uses mechanics little/not seen before, with the whole "can't heal + wants Bond + Ult is a full heal (only on Neuv)" thing. Has one of the highest-effort side quests in the game in my opinion.
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>>698321669
all the harbingers released are popular characters, what part are you not getting?
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>>698305796
No, I wanted her to be a very strong support. Also the bike, and the fact that she attacks with it, is ridiculous and doesn't fit the game at all.
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>>698305796
>OMG she's a human who ascended to godhood!!!
>and she has a family!!! and a little sister1!!!
>except Zhongli also did and he's a 6000 year old dragon
There isn't really much they can do or are doing with Mavuika's character. And the short was the worst so far because the only thing it did well was provide background lore for the 6 heroes of Natlan. It was cute seeing Hine cope with her sister becoming a deity but otherwise it was just Mavuika getting motivated twice, first when Tupac died carrying her to the throne and then again when she hallucinated Hine. It's just retreading old ground.
>>698307612
Natlan is Genshin's midlife crisis. It's the devs embracing their inner 5 year old to keep the game fresh and relevant. Dawei is buying the expensive racecar and getting a comb-over with this nation. Honestly I don't mind because it would probably bore more people and they would burn out if they took a different approach.
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>>698321727
>all the harbingers released are popular characters
As was said already, compared to who? Arle I can see as popular, but Cheld and Wanderer? No.
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>>698310540
>they ripped off the concept of ancient tech from zelda
LMAO
god nu-Zelda fans are so fucking dumb and ignorant, it's actually mind-boggling
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>>698321816
And as I said, it is what it is. However you feel about those two in particular won't change anything
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>>698321701
Arle got rewritten from crazed psycho
villain linked to Andre black magic experiments to khaenrian dindunuffin who isnt even related to Fontaine
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>>698321727
but i never mentioned popularity you illiterate nigger, you did it first. i was saying they got less attention than arle (a fact) and you barged in with
>BBUT T-THEY'RE P-POPULAR!!
are you autistic by any chance and don't know how to follow a conversation?
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>>698321882
I accept your concession.
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These fuckers are not going to make Capitano playable.
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>>698305796
I'll get her but that's it. I opposed the shitposters for a long time but it's true, the bike fucks it all up and there is no good solution.

They could connect Teyvat to the honkai world with some esoteric nonsense and make her a spiritual echo of Himeko or so, which would explain the idea of a modern day vehicle. But that would only please Honkertards and not the vast "Genshin only" majority.

And that still wouldn't help the awkward combat animations.
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>>698321882
You've yet to prove they are popular at all you dumb faggot, all you're doing is saying "they're popular" but when you look at their sales it seems the opposite is true compared to say any fucking Archon. How else would you measure this nebulous "popularity"?
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>>698321945
People should have expected as much after what happened to Signora.
Mihoyo is lame.
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>>698321915
You don't even know what you're talking about
Look right here >>698321062
>In general, Harbingers get more love than other characters for some reason
>In general, Harbingers get more love than other characters for some reason
>In general, Harbingers get more love than other characters for some reason
>In general, Harbingers get more love than other characters for some reason
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>>698321701
>>698321891
doc is also going to get a rewrite since we can't get playable evil characters
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>>698321891
Yeah Arlecchino and Sigewinne are egregiously blatant rewrites it's baffling.
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>>698322015
compared to arle, no they don't.
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>>698320668
Damn nothing ? Back to the drawing board I guess
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>>698322123
I simply do not care if you like one more than the other
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>>698322026
Probably yeah.
He has committed an untold number of atrocities though. To hand-wave all that away would be pretty damn wild.
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>>698322225
i'll repeat
>where are their animation shorts
>where are their unique weapon types
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fellas whats the site to track pity
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>>698322334
>that wasnt me, that was my evil future clone
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>dps
I thought she was supposed to be bennet but better?
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>>698322376
https://paimon.moe/wish
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>>698322334
He got clones so it's easier to get away with it.
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>>698320668
It would be better than what she has.
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>>698322430
>He got clones
Literally all of whom functioned off of his will.
And all of whom have now been nuked out of existence while an evil main remains.
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>>698322180
Hold E you ride a dragon, press E and your normals get infused so you can use your kino normal string to main DPS, but if you swap off the character you swap to gets a consecutive attack ring like Raiden's E or some shit. Just make her animations kino and her being Diluc 2.0 is fine, better than this shit.
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>>698322026
I don't think so.
Doc split himself into an indeterminate number of clones. It should have been obvious to anyone with a brain that the playable version of him was going to be one of the 'good' clones.
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>>698322412
she's worse than both bennett and xiangling
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>>698322412
bennett and xiangling still reign over pyro, mavuika is just arle +10% extra dps
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>>698322545
And a better artifact set.
So more like +50%.
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>>698322510
>>698322180
>normals get infused
Furthermore it has 100% uptime and the E ring is Dragon simultaneous attack flavored for style points.
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Mavuika powercreeps XL in all but like 2 teams
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>>698322634
>Mavuika
Doesn't matter, we're all skipping her.
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Genshin's designs really fell off hard, all the original ones were super memorable, but whenever I see new characters now 90% of them look super forgettable. Arlecc and Furina looked good at least
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>>698322679
Speak for yourself, fag
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>>698322813
By "we" I of course meant humans with taste, subhuman shit eaters like you are obviously not included.
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>>698322634
XL's burst hits many times and applies Pyro EVERY SINGLE TIME.
Mavuika's requires at least 1 other Natlan character to build up fast enough and people ain't using Kachina or Ororon and a fair few people skipped a lot of other Natlan characters for Mavuika.
Her Skill as a support effect also only attacks once every 2 seconds.
Overall, besides the buff itself, she's not very good as a support.
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>>698322612
Now we're talking. Do you guys think if you got China to cause enough of a shit storm they'd remake her kit ?
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>>698322909
God I wish they would, her character is also a problem though so I'd still skip her. At this point it'd be like false advertising to change her so much so there is no hope of that.
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>>698322909
No because Hoyo is lazy. She'd have to sell in the triple digits of profit or less for them to even consider buffing her, let alone remaking her entire kit, lmao.
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Been explorin'.
Fun stuff.
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>>698322992
Yeah, I'm pipe dreaming here :(
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>>698322909
Chinks only caused a shitstorm over zhong cause he was the china archon. Nobody cared as venti got nerfed into the ground in inazuma
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Not really, I have enough pyro dps characters
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compared to furina i'm seeing maybe 30% of the archon hype.
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>>698323119
But people here will pretend she's like the others
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>>698323119
Uhhh bro your #standwithmavuika and animated short.
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>>698322742
I like Clorinde's look
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Mavuika is good don't let shitposters make you think otherwise
the big problem is that natlan came and went and yet fucking >B is still the king of pyro
like shit, they could have dialed down a bit on mavuika's damage and just given her some edge over >B
the other problem is that even mavuika's best team STILL uses >B
at this rate we will NEVER get rid of this fucking dipshit
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>>698322742
Mona was peak nothing can ever come close
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>>698323218
>animated short.
god this one was so bad, it didn't even need to be animated. they had a chance to paint her as a god of war and animate her fighting, but opted for some bullshit bike riding instead?
she even gets carried by a no-name NPC
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>>698323358
Just don't use Bennett if you hate him so much.
I’ve never understood this obsession with finding a replacement for him when there are so many sources of buffing damage in this game besides one twink, and even then you can clear the Abyss/IT with minimal buffs at all, much less his. Same goes for Xiangling too; I think she’s an ugly womanlet and barely touch her because of it; and have yet to struggle with any of the game’s content. You fags still use them due to metafaggotry-induced Stockholm Syndrome, not out of necessity.
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>>698323463
its a 20 minute nothing burger my good
I can't believe people actually watched the whole thing
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>>698323358
I hope snez's gimmick is characters with usable delusions and we get someone to replace benny
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the fact mavuika is just another pyro dps is ridculous. we wanted bennett + xiangling combination 5* to free up teams.

All this AND she needs natlan characters to shine. Absolute bullshit. My c6 hu tao and lyney wipe the fucking floor with anything she could do for me. even my c2 arle is leagues beyond her.
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>>698323645
>she's great because she's the top meta
>b-but you don't need to use meta options with her if you don't want to!
Can you pick one? You're contradicting yourself
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>>698323661
You missed the point. It showed Natlan has roads. Even if they're only inside the Archons head .
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>>698323406
For me it's Mona, Lisa, and Witch Klee for the big hat witches gang with impeccable style. With a special guest appearance from Fischl since she's also a top tier 1.0 design.
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>>698322742
Fontaine designs were all great, and so were Inazuma designs. Sumeru and Natlan suck though. Probably the same B-team making those
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>>698323463
It barely even felt like it was animated with all those stills.
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>>698323723
>the charged attack spam...
the pyro on field dps...
>the 11% crit rate claymore...
the out of place motorbike...
>the awful playstyle...
the bennett dependency...
>the poor pyro app...
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>>698305796
>like her design
>look forward to her, even if I already have Alre
>attacks using the bike instead of weapons and fist
>still needs Bennett
>needs Natlan characters, of which I didn't like any so far enough to get
Incredibly disappointing. Might be the first archon I won't get. All she needed to be was be a 5star Bennett upgrade and buff nightsoul for Natlan chars outside of the area, that's it.
WTF were they thinking?
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>>698320704
Do you have actual brain damage? She has 2 fucking modes like furina, one where she attacks with the claymore and one where she uses the bike. They literally showed it the other day at the reveal program and I think there's even a seperate video on the main channel.
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>>698323895
How bad is her pyro application anyway?
>Muh 2s
But like, is her off-field application cooldown 2 seconds or 2.5 seconds? Cause it'd be miserable if it was 2.5s.
And her on-field attacks icd?
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>niggers want powercreep
Fuck off bennet was a mistake yelan was another mistake
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>>698323929
yeah and one's a total dps loss
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>>698323895
Pretty sure you get a free permanent 40% from her relics so she is automatically at 50% all the time
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>>698323989
she applies pyro every 2 seconds for 12 seconds (less if you don't trigger nightsoul bursts)
and then there's a 10 second cooldown that you have to wait
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>>698323761
I understand your whole M.O. is to be a pedantic sniveling faggot because farming for (You)s is the closest thing to getting genuine human affection in your life, but my post was about Bennett (and to a lesser extent, Xiangling) and the obsession people have with needing them to be replaced or powercrept when they are hardly a necessity in the first place. It quite literally had nothing to do with Mavuika in particular because it’s a shitty stigma all buffers and Pyro units are forced to be subject to.
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>>698324051
you only get those 40% if you use her on field
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>>698323992
no one mentioned powercreep you dumb gorilla nigger, copy/paste bennett kit and give it to a cute girl instead and i'll be happy. hell you can even make it a little bit worse
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>>698307226
>Replies actually attempting to justify a motorcycle

It's so over...
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>>698323992
Bennet is forever the best character in the game I wonder do they wish they could remake him.
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>>698324067
>and then
Her skill cooldown is 15s. Why would I have to wait 10s after 12s have passed?
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>>698324195
people here will defend bennett to justify mavuika being shitty lol
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Caesar King from ZZZ is less futuristic than Mavuika.
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>>698323645
>Just don't use Bennett if you hate him so much.
of course i don't use him faggot
do you realize the problem with your thought process here? i can choose not to use him, but the game mechanics, enemy strength, abyss rotations, existing and future character kits, etc will ALL continue to be limited or designed around him
he warps the gameplay just by existing, i wouldn't give a shit if it were a big tiddy mommy i could use and enjoy, but because he's a faggot (just like you) i end up forced not to use him, but also pay the price of the distortions he creates in gameplay
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>>698324274
the thing is that they saw ZZZ and HSR being more successful and decided to make genshin look/feel more like those games
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>>698324207
of course, they could split his kit into 3 differetn characters
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>people unironically think mavuika will be bad when each archon other than venti is a near game changer
Am I in a /vg/ genshin thread? Those niggers love to doom post about all new characters
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>>698324274
did you just mention my wife?
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>>698324408
You're just making shit up, everyone is aware that she's strong. They amped up her damage to make up for the shit kit and bad design choices
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>>698324408
Dps fall off see raiden
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>>698324408
Venti is also great, he's just bad versus individual huge foes.
Kazuha is the real Anemo Archon.
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>>698324408
who is "people"? she'll be the best dps in the game, doesn't change a thing about her playstyle, requirements, awful animations and general design.
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>>698324410
my king's thighhighs...
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>>698324408
remember when furina was in beta that everyone was saying she would suck and was a total skip since she had high ER requirements and had very limited teambuilding possibilities?
i remember
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>>698324543
Raiden is still amazing though?
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>>698305796
ZZZ stole all the sauce from Mihoyo. Genshin is so bland and soulless in comparison.
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>>698324635
She's next on my todo list after Mavuika.
I lost my 50/50 on her to Diluc, so she's on the backburner now.
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>>698324635
too ugly to roll
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>>698324704
good luck waiting 1 year for a rerun
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>>698324543
>raiden
>dps
nigga dunno about you but i use raiden a lot because her team energy recharge during burst opens up a bunch of possibilities and gives me lots of flexibility when it comes to building teams and farming artifacts
for instance she allows me to use eula and furina in the same team without worrying about doing cope stuff like using ER sands
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>>698324543
Bait or fucking retarded
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>>698324750
That's fine. I am in no hurry.
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>>698324342
Probably not exactly that, but I suspect they did tap some of the ZZZ artists for designing parts of Natlan's aesthetic.
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>>698324631
>>698324792
>>698324819
Cope seethe
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>>698324339
>pay the price of the distortions he creates in gameplay
Those don’t exist, much like Bennett’s figurative cock you can’t seem to hop off of. There is not a single piece of content that necessitates him, and the only reason you believe otherwise is because you are unequivocally dogshit at a game made for 14 year-olds and think the devs are forcing your hand when you deal 300K in a single rotation against a 1 million HP boss instead of 400K against the same enemy had you been using Bennett instead. I’m sorry you got gaslit by spreadsheet loving theorycrafting faggots, but that doesn’t mean that the game magically becomes unplayable because of muh DPS loss. And if it did, you’d be playing on a private server with perfect artifact rolls and triple-crowned C6R5 units instead of crying here about how a single character makes piss-easy endgame content even easier for shitters.
Now take you (You) and hang yourself from the rafters, as a kindly peace of advise from me to the worthless /v/ermin you are.
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>>698324643
somewhat but it's also quite a fuck-up
If she just were a super sajayin with fire and a huge sword and huge tits (like what we've already seen) with a kit that is a semi-on field Bennet alternative the hype would be far greater
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>B (a passing grade) is bad
>Usage = viability
>Can't even make an argument, so just spews random buzzwords and multi-replies
Lol. I better not catch anyone replying to this retard.
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>>698325130
So this proves harbniggers aren't popular?
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>>698325130
i skipped most of natlan but how come xilonen is so high? what makes her so good? i remember when she was announced everyone was very lukewarm about her
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>>698324597
The difference is that if Furina was bad I'd still have rolled for her, if Mavuika is the best unit in the game I still won't roll for her.

t. Day one Furina and Siggy owner, no regrets
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>>698325498
She's one of the best supports in the game, even before release everyone was saying Kazuha 2.0, she also happens to be a fine healer ontop of a huge DPS increase.
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>>698325130
Are we saying Xiangling is bad now?
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>>698325278
I accept your concussion.
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>>698325646
She's a Kazuha sidegrade where you replace CC with healing
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>>698307226
>Remember when Genshin was a medieval fantasy game?
here's a little thing that like 99% of players never noticed but the one who's actually sending you mails is not Paimon but an artificial intelligence, and someone already mention Katheryne being an computer
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>>698325683
Yes, a sidegrade is indeed in the same tier.
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>>698305796
>great sword user

auto trash.
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>>698325683
not being a male is an auto-upgrade
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>>698325683
Just like how kazuha is a sucrose sidegrade, right?
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>>698325646
but how does a geo character become a top tier support? i hear she heals but does she buff elemental damage a lot universally or what?
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>>698325990
She gives elemental Penetration to elements she influences.
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>>698326027
i'd give her elemental penetration into her pussy if you catch my drift
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>>698325824
Needs Live, Laugh, Love signs everywhere to compliment the Chelds.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/diJR5x3l0Og

>>698325990
She's doing the Navia thing where she has built in synergy with non-geo, she Shreds everything but Anemo which is still hard as fuck to come by so she is great just for that, but then she also heals very well, and she can hold the new artifact set Cinder City, which is fucking great.
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>>698325990
She has VV shred as part of her kit + 40% elem bonus thanks to cinder city. Not to mention over the top heals, high up time (50% more than kazuha) and low on field time
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xilonen doesn't even look good
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>>698327237
I've got a prostitution fetish, so while she's a bit dull as a character, she speaks to me on a primal level. I hope she'll join Mona as a prostitution doujin queen.
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>>698327693
I wish she looked just a bit more like a blacksmith and a tiny bit less like a brazilian prostitute
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>Female birthdays go unnoticed
>Meanwhile this shit
why did genshin attract such a gigantic normalfag playerbase of homos, fujos and other twitter normies?
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>>698328494
Fujos and yumes are insane
captcha AAAA
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>>698328494
Anime is getting heavily associated with faggotry + women are into bad boys
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>>698328494
But that guy will try to convince you Arlecchino is the only popular harbinger because she got an animation short
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>>698328494
Along as you have males you'll have fujos see every shonen
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>>698328314
They went all over the place with her skill set, really felt like they had no idea what to do with her. Blacksmith, DJ, Roller Skater, Sleepy Girl, wish they had just focused more on one particular thing, but I do like her whorish design despite it also feeling a bit out of place. All of Natlan could take a hint from Sumeru when it comes to tribal designs that mesh a bit more with the setting. A shame my beloved Candace sucks, her design ahs just the right amount of slutty yet setting fitting.
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so is this the closest we're going to get to himeko or should i still hold
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>>698328783
hodl until Celestia, Natlan coin is going to PLUMMET once we leave and all their transversal shit becomes worthless.
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>>698328662
I don't mind her whorish clothes, but I feel like she looks like a irl hoe instead of a fantasy game char, they could have made her clothes more "costumey". And her kit too, instead of a DJ turntable for her burst, it could be an anvil
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>>698328865
oh i wont use her. i just want my himeko to sit in my house and look pretty
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>>698328783
not a chance
you will only get a bronya knockoff in 2 years
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>>698305796
Not really. Too much bike.
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>>698328924
>but I feel like she looks like a irl hoe instead of a fantasy game char
Yep, I agree, their designers are floundering.
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>>698307226
they made this fan animation reality fucking kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J7G1oc1vME
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>>698329239
natlan is more like a fanfic at this point
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>does nothing
>wins
Chudden Shogun won.
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>>698330194
I don't quite get that drawing
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>>698330338
That's sara speaking not ei
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>>698325498
>i remember when she was announced everyone was very lukewarm about her
where the fuck do you retards hang out?

>>698325683
she's an extreme upgrade
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>>698330601
Kazuha's insane AoE and element application disagrees.
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>>698330737
No it doesn't. I haven't used him since I got her and he was in my party 24/7 since he came out.
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>>698330768
You're such a liar, you're saying you don't use Xilonen on one side and Kazuha on the other?
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>>698330768
i use them together and it's pretty great
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>>698330861
nta I quit genshin but is hyperbloom not super op anymore
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>>698328494
Chinks rented a whole mall for best girl. The fujos are just trying to top that
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>>698331484
Nope, dendro fell off super hard in Natlan (it started in Fontiane)
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Playing 4 Gatchas simultaneously even as a NEET is tiresome.

Feeling really burnt out. If I were entertaining, and not a communication brainlet, I should have started twitch/yt streaming.
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>>698331557
>dendro fell off
Fuck you, Emilie is good.
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>>698331895
I'm sure the 5 people who rolled her (myself included) think that
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>>698325498
Xilonen is a second Kazuha that also stacks fully with kazuha and actually does even more than kazuha if you get C2+ heck c4 is deceptively strong.
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>>698331965
The only major downside is she has 0 good F2P (non-event-locked) weapons.
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>>698332147
I gave her calamity queller
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I will brick myself by rolling Citlali.
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>>698332316
I don't think she will be a brick, she can use cinder scroll and that's enough
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>>698332274
>5*
>Also only been available 2 times (gonna be on Chronicle)
I mean I guess, sure, but that's not a very F2P friendly weapon.
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>>698328494
They had a full year of nothing but male characters that ended up bleeding their revenue.
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>>698332374
I'm not debating your point, I'm adding to it. I might roll Shenhe though... but then I'll give her Arlecchino's or Xiao's spear
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>>698305796
I might throw a few pulls her way if I get lucky with the sex granny, but I am not hyped for her at all, especially after Furina and Nahida.
As a character she is as bland as Raiden and when it comes to her kit she does not do much for me either as I already have like a dozen other pyro on field dps units
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>>698328494
Men spend more on the game itself while women spend more on merch and free advertising.
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>>698305796
Guys I only have 16k Primos saved up and really want Mavuika, her Weapon, and maybe even her C1... What can I do to crash farm Primos? I finished Natlan, is it worh to full farm fontaine? I only have about 20% exploration there.
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>>698333353
Obviously
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>>698333539
How many primos could I expect? I only did the main story of Fontaine and around 20% of exploration, I dont even have enough rep to forge the compass...
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>>698307226
Was it ever? In Mondstadt's domains, we had laser modules and anti-grav devices. In Inazuma, we had human-like androids. In Sumeru, there's a ton of evidence that shows that King Deshret's ancient civilization was actually a futuristic cyber paradise.
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>>698333723
Like 100 wishes I guess if there's the entirety of Fontaine missing
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>>698305796
I'll roll for Citlali and try getting Mavuika if I have any primos left
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>I'm sorry, Chime. I might have to go all out, just this once.
What did Coya mean by this?
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>>698333353
Chests and activities that give chests (puzzles, time trials etc) and oculus of whatever region you havejt explored yet. If you have done you weekly reputation and have enough to get a chest compass blueprint for that region then rush it. Since the compass shows nearby chest and activities, but the range is limited to you still have to move around.

If you have enough characters and have your teapot in high level you can buy blueprints from the teapot bird that give you "gift sets". The way they work is that you can press "view details" in the teapot menu and it shows what characters like the specific set. If you build it, place it and put the character in your teapot they will go to the set and you can talk to them and get 20 primos once per character and per set. So if lets say you have 3 sets that amber likes thats 60 primos total just from her

Do the events that give around 400 primos, the current one is the "wargame" one.

Claim the codes, you can google them, thre are permanent ones and limited time ones that are usually shown on developer streams.

If you have a good team and have abyss and the teather unlock do both.

Do character story quests (the ones you get with keys from doing 2 sets of daily quests) they give 60 each but take waaaaay too long even skipping dialogue.
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>>698333865
I'm tempted to do that, but I already farmed Mavuika's boss mats, while it will take some time to farm Citlali's
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>>698332464
>might roll Shenhe
Dont
She is Eula tier bait, one of the few times when rolling with your dick is not advised
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>>698305796
I have enougj to at least get a pity. But the only synergy i have with her is mualiani. Which is fine since my f2p mualani does a lot. What i want to know is whats better, going for C1 or C0R1
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>>698305796
I will probably pull, but they are doing everything they can to anti-hype her between her boring characterization, gmod-tier bike attacks, and lame anime short. They'd better do a really good job turning her around in the AQ finale or else I'll be pulling purely for gameplay reasons which is fucking gay.
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>>698334242
idc, i'm just a collector
but mavuika and citlali will be my priorities
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>>698333865
>I'll roll for Citlali and try getting Mavuika if I have any primos left
mavuika banner is first though
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>>698305796
Gotten every other archon so I guess may c0 I dunno why I havent cared tgis little about an archon since raiden.
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>>698334362
They are simultaneous iirc
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>>698334362
woke up from a coma? they will be side by side, already been announced
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Is 50/50 really 50/50? I feel like I lose way too often. I know a 50/50 probability doesn't actually guarantee that I'll win 50% of my coinflips, but this is honestly too much.
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>>698308340
Erm, as a trans woman this is problematic.
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>>698334449
1. impossible to know, but generally considered to be the case
2. they implemented a new system where you're guaranteed to win a coinflip after a few fails, basically losing twice means the next onwe is a win
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make sure to visit citlali's teaser place in game
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Is that little home surrounded by graffiti at the very southern edge of the Night-Wind territory supposed to be Citlali's house?
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>>698331882
Gachas are jobs. I am hoyo wage slave with HI3, Star rail, ZZZ, and Genshin. I also play Yugioh master duel.
I have my real job and 5 other jobs when I get home. At least I don't whale.
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>>698335552
Maybe its her "office"
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>>698335038
Where is Citlali's house?
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>>698335613
I do half my gacha-ing at work anyway. I have long hours but also a ton of downtime where I have nothing to do because a good portion of my time is to just be on standby in case something goes wrong. It pays good but if I didn't have something to do I might just die of boredom.
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>>698335681
https://www.reddit.com/r/CitlaliMains/comments/1gxu4th/i_think_i_found_citlalis_house/
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>>698334528
>they implemented a new system where you're guaranteed to win a coinflip after a few fails, basically losing twice means the next onwe is a win
where have they ever mentioned that? i only remember them advertising 55/45 as an actual feature when it's always been there but they just made an animation for it. and if they did implement such a feature, why is it not in star rail too? i've lost way more than 2 coinflips in a row there
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>>698335867
>55/45
that was a misinterpretation
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>>698305796
No, genshin is just a steaming pile of garbage nowadays. Maybe it always was, but that motorcycle bullshit... come on. It's like they discovered that their player vase eats everything up regardless of how shit it is and then they fired everyone and replaced them with ai to save money.
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>>698335952
what do you mean? it's been there from the start. the game rolls a 50/50 between the featured 5* and a spook then if it's a spook it rolls again among every standard 5* and the featured one. it's neat, but they advertised it on stream like some kind of new thing, when it actually wasn't. it's like if they suddenly started advertising soft pity as a new feature. but they can't do that because despite never being mentioned anywhere in the game, everyone already knows it exists
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>>698336330
if you lose the coinflip twice
then you will have a 75% chance to win the next coinflip
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>>698336635
ok, and if you lose it a third time, does it become 100%?
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>>698336710
yes
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>>698336710
no it's a 0.5 x 0.9 chance of losing the coinflip.
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>>698336782
that text is purposefully confusing and doesn't get the point straight
its
50/50 > 50/50 > 75/25 > 100
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>>698336909
But they literally state it's 55% probability? I don't understand
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>>698334098
koko love
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>>698337005
nobody does, but after that system was put into action, people started to notice that it wasn't adding up so they made research and arrived at that conclusion, so far its been 100% accurate (in the sense that no one has been able to prove it isn't). my own experience indicates its true
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>>698337005
Just search "consolidated probability"
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>>698307226
The bike is so retarded, I understand this is the gimmick of her region, but seriously wtf is wrong with hoyoslop? I can't take natlan seriously...also her old design is way fucking cooler
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>>698337168
I've seen capturing radiance back-to-back in a whale pull session if that means anything.
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>>698305796
No, I dont like her. Weird bike gameplay (most likely kit as well) and boring cinematic. That's all you need to know before judging a character. Natlan isnt a good-creative setting either.
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>>698338156
link? from my understanding that should be impossible
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>>698336782
>>698336909
wait am i retarded? wasn't this always the case?
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>>698338393
not at all
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>>698338435
so wait you can lose your second 50/50?
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>>698338598
its literally what >>698336909 said
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>>698338615
Oh wait, this makes so much sense, I am retarded, the radiance is a bad luck protection for the 50/50, this has nothing to do with the guaranteed, that's why I was confused and retarded.
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>>698338925
its just a measure to prevent you from losing the coinflip too many times in a row
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I don't play this shit but heard nothing but issue after issue with the newest part from every fucking side. What went wrong?
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>>698339197
yeah i get it, that's cool
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I already pulled for C2 Xilonen.

I will do some pulls on Citlali banner, if I lose 50-50, then I will save the guarantee.
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>>698336782
didn't the statistics prove this to be bullshit, it was expected to be 55% but you instead got like 51-53%
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>>698339302
>new country has less content than usual
>map is ass
>people forever begging for an off field pyro and not getting it IN THE FUCKING PYRO COUNTRY
>Retarded travel gimmick poorly balanced and forcing the god character to attack with a bike
>new travel gimmick is just recycled old gimmicks with an extra stamina bar you can only use in the country in question
>terrible release pipeline
>shit writers in charge again
A lot of small shit that is ruining the overall experience for an otherwise good concept.
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>>698307226
Isn't Natlan bugerland? They ruin everything, all will be saved by based not-russia, trust the plan
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>>698340280
Isn't this shit supposed to be an African mezo Spanish mix?
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>>698339895
Also not enough brown people and males so twitter is melting down
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>>698340362
It's basically just the entire Americas and South Africa rolled into a single soup. It has cowboys in it, so it has references to the American Wild West.
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>use shinobu
>she brings herself to low hp by using her skill
>says MACHINASAI threateningly as if it's the enemy's fault
Gets me every time.
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>>698340769
she's literally unusable without c6
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>>698340769
I only use kuki for my freminet team
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>>698340769
TFW I still don't have Kuki after playing for a year and a half.
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>>698305796
Why can't Genshin make a single good male character? Why do all their males look like this?
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>>698341683
Wild guess, but maybe you're not the target audience
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>>698341683
They are made for women and women have shit taste.
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>when granny is a better character than the archon
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>>698340478
They are still seething? Man Sumeru took like a week for twitter to get over it.
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>>698342021
She's literally the best character of Natlan
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>>698342021
she's literally me
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>>698342021
Shame they made her a shielder. You know, a character type that isn't actually allowed to be good because John Lee is too good at it.
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>>698342760
but her shielding is negligible, her thing is buffing pyro/cryo + cinder scroll
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>>698343143
Xilonen buffs Pyro, Cryo, and also Hydro, Geo, and Electro more than she does (36% at level 10 instead of a fixed 20%) and can use Cinder Scroll just as well.
The only upside (besides Shield) is Citlali has the same movement tech as Ororon, super jump, which is very fun.
So the only thing she actually really has going for her is the shield, which is directly inferior to John Lee.
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>>698343461
citlali shield is also worse than layla's and diona's
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>>698343461
Citlali enables melt, which is better than crystallize
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>>698334092
>the current one is the "wargame" one.
I hated this event
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>>698343625
There's no fucking way it's worse than Layla's.
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>>698343720
layla has the second strongest shield in the game
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>>698339895
literally nothing this guy said is true
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>>698343720
i think citlali has 12k shield max
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>>698343963
Is her EM scaling THAT bad?
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>>698343461
Citlali meta wise is like Shenhe, someone that is completely replaceable by a multitude of characters but only fits in a few teams. And her shield is not really relevant.
You roll because she's cute and can do that super jump.
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>>698343953
>t. Mihoyo employee
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I think I'll do 10 pull on Mavuika and Citlali's banners alternately and let fate decide who I get first
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>>698344007
instead of doing one thing well, she's a mediocre shielder and buffer. she's just a cute granny, not a must-have character by any means
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Stopped playing when main quests started being unvoiced in English. With the Pyro archon's disappointing kit leaving nothing to wish for, I'm not coming back til Snezhnaya.
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>>698344453
You can thank the drama queen English VA's for that.
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>>698344453
actually same I can't be bothered to do the story anymore because of it
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>>698344453
>English
Good riddance.
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>>698344453
Only 2 characters in the main quests are unvoiced. 3 if you count the one time Kachina's VA was in the hospital
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>>698308296
>space traveler
>add a new region with a new character
>MC still stuck without the ability to travel through time
lazy fuck writing that isn't gonna ever finish.
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So this guy isn't the same as the silhouette hat guy? The silhouette is Ifa a character that has only been mentioned. This guy's model is NPC skeleton and not playable right because he looks unique?
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>>698344972
no?
ifa is going to look different and a cartoon version of him is already in the game
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>>698308296
Give up the motorcycle is terrible. Everything else before it had precedent, even the flying gun. The motorcycle was pulled out of their ass.
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>>698343668
It's autochess for retards. The previous one at least had you play the traveller while the enemies were attacking.
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>>698344657
They're running out of good references. Sheznaya will be variations on bears and vodka. And there will be dashcam footage somehow.
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>>698346256
>vodka
Borscht better be the best healing item.
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>>698344972
Genshin finally figured out hot to dress their NPCs better
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What stats does Mavuika want? I assume no ER%, but does she want Pyro% or Atk%?
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>>698346068
>fontaine has unicycle enemies
>someone a year later gluing two of them together is somehow farfetched
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>>698305796
Yes. I am going for C0R1 Mauvika and C0 Citlali. I've been saving my primosperm for this day.
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>>698347587
Were you disappointed by their kits?
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>>698341718
>>Wild guess, but maybe you're not the target audience
Who is then? Gay pedophiles?
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>>698347616
For Mavuika, yes, since she didn't powercreep neither Bennett nor Xiangling. Still rolling because she makes my sex dick and my kino dick hard.
Citlali's paper-thin shield is disappointing, but the rest of her kit is fine with me. I will play her either in Arlecchino teams (I never ran any survivability with her anyway) or Mavuika teams (glued to Xilonen the healer).
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>>698347772
I still have no idea how to use Xilonen as a healer.
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>>698305796
I saw the gameplay and instantly decided on never pulling for her. All the gems plus more is gonna be all for Skirk.
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>>698347772
Yeah that's reasonable, I feel similarly
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>>698347485
>atk sand
>goblet depends on what team you're using but generally atk->pyro
>crit dmg circlet
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>>698347831
This might be a challenging subject, but I'll try my best to explain how to use Xilonen as a healer.
Press Q to activate the Elemental Burst's heal-over-time effect to the active character.
Swap to the active character.
Wait until the heal-over-time effect triggers upon its set intervals, thus healing the active character.
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>>698309762
no
it makes literally no sense, especially since people in her country live in mud huts
even her trailer was retarded and had her drive on some desert in a dream, which is another retarded thing since its like a dream bike, but its real, or something
lets be real, they just added it since they are desperate, no thought into it went at any stage
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>>698347485
The literal exact same artifacts as Arlecchino, but on the Natlan set and less overall Crit Rate because you get a ton of it from the Natlan set.
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>>698347989
See, you're leaving quite a bit out. In order for her to heal, she needs source samples. But the game is ass at explaining what those are, where they come from, and how to maintain them.
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>>698347485
she is built for the captain's curse rotted dick
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>>698348184
That's not the most retarded thing in her animated short. The dreaming Mavuika, who is currently somewhere 50-500 years in the past at the time of dreaming, imagined riding a motorcycle that was built in the present by Xilonen.
Xilonen is such an engineering genius that she managed to D-mail the image of the motorcycle into Mavuika's sleeping brain.
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>>698313262
why?
sumeru has actual academia that researches long lost robotic tech, which has a specific look to it inspired by zelda games, that looks nothing like a fucking racing bike
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>>698307226
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>>698347989
lol.
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>>698348360
You need to have at least 2 members in your party whose elements are Hydro, Pyro, Cryo or Electro and repeats are allowed. Then, her Q will heal.
Also, despite what the description says, you don't need to have used her E to activate the healing. You can just press Q, and it will start healing right away.
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>>698348360
nta but
>atleast 2 different pyro/hydro/electro/cryo elements in team-> heal mode
>1 or less pyro/hydro/electro/cryo ->dps mode
so if you're running 3 geo/anemo she's a dps otherwise she's healing.
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>>698348405
>curse rotted dick
he is literally me
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>>698347485
ATK/Pyro/Crit
EM/Pyro/Crit is more optimal if running in reaction-based teams with Bennett, but it makes her less flexible (such as in IT). The choice is up to you.
CD% > CR% (until capped) > EM (if applicable) > ATK%
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>>698314570
all the things you mention seem like things any civilization would develop, a racing bike is a fucking retarded useless toy for dumb goys to get distracted with
it serves 0 purpose, cant transport goods, extremely uncomfortable to sit in, 1 person, hilariously dangerous to use, is completely useless without roads and inferior to floating devices they have in every way

a fucking motorbike is useless fucking vehicle in our world, there isnt a person who dosnt hate bike fags, yet alone in genshin world
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>>698347671
>Gay pedophile
In America they call those women>>698348427
>built in the present by Xilonen
Annnnd stopped reading. Always funny when biketards out themselves as not knowing a single thing they're talking about . Could be aesthetic, lore, or simply taste they out themselves every single time.
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>>698348868
I only roll for hags, so she's not going to be with Bennett.
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>>698348726
I want to watch.
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>>698348427
The bike is old, Xilonen modified it so it can fly
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>>698349015
Friggen Lemurian artifacts.
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>>698349146
So we can safely assume that the revenue drop for Sumeru and Fontaine was significant, right?
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>>698348873
Gay pedo freak.
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>>698349146
Not saying leakers aren't fanfiction attention-seeking whores, but there's a chance that Dahlia will be a 4* like Mika.
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>>698349230
Not exactly, current characters are still selling less
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>>698349423
That's because 1) gacha entropy and 2) loss of interest from the previous (male) banners.
If males made the numbers Hoyo wanted, we'd still be seeing them. Instead, all we've had is Kinich. So we can safely say that Hoyo themselves consider male 5*s to be "not worth it."
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>>698349516
both males and females are selling poorly in comparison to the previous versions, people are just quitting genshin
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>>698349590
Yes, but my point is that males would be selling even worse, which is why they're not being sold anymore.
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>>698315048
I'm on my 5th "50/50" loss in a row, anon
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>>698348427
>Xilonen is such an engineering genius that she managed to D-mail the image of the motorcycle into Mavuika's sleeping brain.

just turn your brain off broo
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>>698349624
no, you're not getting it, newer characters are selling relatively "poorly" regardless of their genders
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>>698349705
Now compare Kinich to Xilonen or Mualani.
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>>698349738
>he's in between them
sounds very ordinary, but what point did you try to make?
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>>698307226
ancient technology has existed since day 1 of genshin, early talk of fontaine mentioned it being very advanced with films, robotics, firearms, and CAMERAS
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>>698349902
At this point, I'm soundly convinced you're a homosexual trying to say "b-b-but all banners are down, even if males are down way more."
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b-bwos.......... I couldn't decide on who to pull.........................
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>>698349678
Don't roll in bulk
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>>698349945
you're not convinced, you're confused
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>>698310540
Truth NVKE
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>>698349996
Forgot my bweh
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>>698349996
post your roster
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>>698349998
No, I've already stated the facts. They just make you mad, so you keep going "b-b-but what about [x]," as if I give a shit.
If males sold, we'd be getting more, not less.
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>>698349146
it really just took one more or less direct competitor to come out for the chinks to start doing shit after like 4 years of sitting on their asses
>4 years of monopoly on anime open world game market
>do jackshit
>wuwa comes out
>within less than a year resin cap is upgraded,
>bosses respawn immediately
>now there's a way around doing dailies with encounter points
>artifact transmuter becomes a thing
>you now get bonus primos for doing quests in the patch they come out
>new characters come with all sorts of movement gimmicks to compensate for the outdated stamina system
>domains now don't spawn you all the way to the back when farming
>faster character/weapon leveling screens
>more (you) pandering than ever before
>homo banners are changed for waifu banners
>artifact inventory increases, autolock features, etc
Some stuff has been asked for since 1.0 but the chink never bothered until he felt threatened
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>>698350147
i'm not the one who sounds mad
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>>698350148
>>more (you) pandering than ever before
>>homo banners are changed for waifu banners
I would say these are more because of Snowbreak than Wuthering Waves, but it's definitely because these methods are proven to make money.
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Does Mavuika add anything to a Kinich burgeon team or am I stuck using Thoma forever?
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>>698349015
Sauce on that? People are assuming that Xilonen built the bike because she built everything else.
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>>698305796
Yes
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>>698350075
I forgot my UID and not on my computer. Needless to say I have mostly everyone except the male characters and most of Nutlan characters (only the shark girl).
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>>698350245
i can't remember where i saw it but it's an artifact passed down from previous pyro archons
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>>698350217
Buddy, you're the one who got angry when the words "So we can safely assume that the revenue drop for Sumeru and Fontaine was significant, right?" were typed.
Your random deflections are unnecessary, unless you're a mad wittle babby, angy he can't suck boy dick.
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>>698350232
she adds more damage and enough pyro app
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>>698350148
actually most of the added things were data mined or announced years ago
the problem isnt the lazy chink, but incompetent lead devs who refuse to push changes onto prod builds
if you know anything about game development, especially in live service, changes to balance or main systems arent done due to it having to go through leads and testers, so devs make new shit, it lands on some fork build of the game, and dies there or gets implemented when some faggot moves a ticket from one column to another

those problems start and end at the same people who are behind the rewrites, incoherent plot direction, the shitty bike being added and most males being fags
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>>698350354
at the end of the day, you will never change the fact that both males and females are flopping
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>>698350310
Looks like it's literally in her skill description. Somehow everyone glossed over this. So she already had it when she entombed herself in primal fire.
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>>698350549
>so mad, that "lower sales" is now "flopping"
Once again: if female banners were "flopping," Hoyo would have stopped making them.
You know, like male banners?
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>>698350302
if you got Arlecchino or Hu Tao and want stronger teams roll Citlali
If you don't care about meta and just want to roll for fun/exploration roll Mavuika



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