What videogames have canon futa in them?
>>698357561futa without vag > futa with vaggirls with boovies and curvy hips are nice, but vaginas are icky and weird
>>698357561In the Papa Nier version, it's obvious she wants to be submissive and girly for Nier
half life
>>698357657If the '''futanari;'''' lacks a vag then its no futa, you dumbarse cum slurping faggot.Futas/herms require both.
I want to be girly and submissive for Kaine!
>>698357561Futa =/= male or femaleAs it is depicted 99+% of the time, they are almost entirely female, with the sole exception of being able to breed with 100% femalesThey are not trannies, and are arguably more straight to enjoy than make on female That said, futa with balls, or futa on male/ male in futa is pretty much full blown gay
>>698357657>futa without vagthat's called tranny, retard
>>698357904>>698358073A penis that intersects with a vag is unable to be erect because the keratin fibers that anchor it to the pelvis would be absent due to the existence of the gaping female flesh hole where those same fibers would be anchored to the pelvisa real life herm's dick would be floppy and loose even if it engorged with erectile blood during arousal because it is not anchored to the pelvis
>>698358368where does the "transition" occur?
Niggers I don't care about what's gay or what's not or whatever. I just like hot girls with big tits, wide hips and massive cocksSimple asIt's gay? Okay it's gay then I don't care
>>698358445You're applying real world aspects to a fictional fap genre.Futa aren't real, they're solely for fun. So go on and enjoy being technically correct while I'll continue to watch 99% females dick down 100% females.
>>698358575but girl meat holes kinda are icky tho
>>698358575its only gay if she tops otherwise its super straightsource: thug nigga law
>>698358445I bet you complain when dragons don't have 6 limps too, you fucking nerd
>>698357657thisballs are like boobs of the penis
>>698358756If a dragon has 6 limps, even copper-level adventurers from the local guild should be able to slay it.
reminder:>futanaria girl with both a penis and a vagina>shemale/new-halfa man whose had operations to look like a girl>dickgirla futanari without a vagina>futanari without ballsengorged clit retarded shit
kaine....
>>698359279And all are gay.
>>698359279I don't care about all that, I just want dick (female)
>>698359513hmm nyo
>>698359279A dickgirl, shemale and new-half are all the same shit, just different names used over time.>engorged clit retarded shitNo, see the comment about dragons, you dumb fuck
Why does /v/ have so much trouble understanding the meaning of words?
>>698357904are we gonna play degrees of gayness? lolif fucking a guy is 100% gay, fucking a femboy is 75% gay, and fucking a futanari with a pussy is 100% straight, how gay is fucking a femboy who grows a pussy and breasts but retains their cock despite being biologically male? would that be gayer than a biologically female futanari who woke up to find her pussy replaced by a cock?
bible black antagonists were futanari, sorry. I don't care about westernshit terms because they're gay and stupid
kaine no balls or balls
>>698359817I'm not speaking japanese dudethe word means whatever we based posters want
>>698359817classing troon revisionism shit where they try to shoehorn themselves into something acceptable
Don't care + would slobber.Where do I go after Replicant and Automata? I want the rest of the director's wild rides.
>>698359901>are we gonna play degrees of gayness?No, words have meaning, you fuck, futanari literally means two halfs, as in hermaphrodite two halfs.
>>698359513
>>698359817you know, generally, infographs are meant to sum up a topic with images and a few brief sentences. this is a very verbose and clunky read.
>>698359743They're not the same and more terms have surfaced for people who want specifics. Dickgirl is just used as an umbrella term for people like >>698359540 who don't care about said specifics.
>>698360176Yes, we call those people gay, anon, keep it simple.
>>698360109not in english
>>698360109one half still has to come first and present predominately because we're a gender dimorphic species. either it looks like a boy and has tits and a pussy to go with its cock, or it looks like a girl and has a cock and balls to go with it's tits and pussy - and i wanna know which is gayer and why. let's get super granular.
>>698359817shemale > cuntboythis is not up for dispute
>>698360089Emulate the Drakengards. Try and see if you can still play Nier Reincarnation. You might want to look for an actual guide for all the crossmedia content. Books, audio dramas, plays, animu.Or just find an autistic enough youtuber who explains everything yokotaro related.Good luck
>>698360254>having sex with a woman>gay
>>698359817put the female symbol on the futanari's body and it's correct
>>698360385based on that one /d/ fetish poll cuntboy is pretty much exclusively a tranny fetish
>>698360357Futanari are always drawn as women so I don't get what you are getting at.
>>698360412Futanari technically can also refer to men with both genitals but only faggots in /d/ draw shit like that.
>>698360357Looking like a woman is all that matters. Even if they're basically a trap and present as a guy, if you fuck them in the pussy and make them cum like a girl it's still 100% straight.
>>698357689it's the same fucking script
>>698360443how gay is fucking a femboy who grows a pussy and breasts but retains their cock despite being biologically male effectively becoming a futanari? and would that be gayer than a biological female who woke up to find her pussy replaced by a cock?>>698360636ohhhhh, okay, i see where i guess i get lost. i'm not courting a futanari to fuck her, i'm courting a futanari to get fucked. her pussy isn't even a top 3 concern in my head. plus no menstrual cycle would be a HUGE win. lol
>>698360636Imagine stroking that ticklish little bulge with the pad of your finger until Crimvael is a blushing, quivering mess.
what does kaine gain as a character by having a penis
>>698361713play the game
futa isnt real anons. you need to get a long term relationship and have passionate emotional sex with a woman... PLEASE stop fapping and do this.
>>698361713Nier's bussy
>>698361713It's to feel human when she stroked in front of that nun with her veiny mass
>>698361826I will not create more human entities to feed to your jewish banker wars
>>698361826>passionate emotional sex with a womanThat is also not real
>>698361713Something to grab onto while she rides your dick
>>698361713backstory
>>698361826But women don't have dicks that can shoot ropes of cum all over their bed while I plow them from behind
>>698361173>getting fucked by a futa>choking on futa cock>fucking a futa in the ass and giving her a reacharoundNot gay, you're literally having sex with a woman>fucking a futa (male)Still not gay as long as he's cute
>>698361826Women avoid me like I'm some kind of infection and I try to be a normal nice person but I'm just ugly.
>>698361968>But women don't have dicksglad you figured it out!
>>698361713the cause of being an outcast? an explanation to her vulgar language and rotten personality? The game explains more
>>698361713A penis
>>698361994that manga/anime was a hell of a ride
>>698361713makes pp hard
>>698359540I need more Crim
Is futa on female gay, or just a weird way of something being straight?
>>698357657
>>698362162it's like watching lesbian porn as a straight male technically gay but they're female so it's ok
>>698361826why? so they can grow up and realize they'll never have super powers, slay a dragon, or pilot a spaceship too? and that at best they can maybe work their asses off to earn a solid salary making someone else significantly more money and maybe wrangle a half-decent girl to repeat the cycle with until we nuke ourselves back into caves over what i can only presume will be the dumbest Zionist-demon-adjacent shit imaginable? fuck that. i do not vibe with this universe enough to want progeny here.
>>698362234Balls on futa is gay and heresy! That's actually a recent thing! Back in the day it was just the dick and vag only! As god intended!
>>698359817That image is a huge cope. By its rules, a futanari can can have secondary sexual characteristics of a male, and still be considered a futa. Which doesn't make sense. You wouldn't look at a character with a beard, defined pectorals, a V taper, and then claim he's a "futanari", just because he has both sets of genitals. You'd just say that's a dude with a vagina added on.
>>698362361a futa without balls is like an angel with no wings ;-;
>>698362348>>698361892anons she can take the pill or you can agree to not have kids.
>>698360401I'll look into emulation, then. Thanks Anon.
>>698362416the balls are on the inside
Why is there this seemingly sudden flood of futatism in recent months?
>>698362479>recent monthsthis retardation has gone on for like half a decade now
Girls with penises are just men. - Mom
>>698362479well poisoning
>>698362383all you have to do is read about testosterone and estrogen and how they affect the body
>>698362420that's true and reasonable. i still wanna do this in the near future.
i hate being heterosexual and also a misogynistlike goddamn all that the women in my family had to do was not be cluster B type 2 bpd pieces of SHIT and then i wouldnt be looking at futa and thinking "hey maybe since this girl has a dick she's not a total FUCKING CUNT like every woman in my life has been"women have life on easy mode and have the fucking AUDACITY to make everyone else's life more difficultstupid fucking bitchesdumb cunts
>>698362515>half a decadeDude I've been jacking off to this stuff since like 2009.
>>698362719he's refering to the autism over what is and is not futa
Futa is gay
>>698362348Muslims shouldn't be bredding I agree, please troon out and cut your pp off like all the other incels out there. White Chads will inherit the Earth.
>>698362627Vague post. Did you accidentally reply to the wrong person?
>>698357561Fate/Grand order.
>>698362479>recent>>698360115 this image is 11 years old.
>>698362457ah, nvm. Reincarnation died on aprilhere's a cool summary, tho. Just watched it and it's pretty goodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01Ob5yezTu8You might also want to check this guy's channelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0Pt-hmfs7c
>>698359817this is mostly right. i'm so sick of trannies trying to coopt futas/dickgirls and make it about them. and then they say nobody is allowed to say futa/dickgirl anymore because it's a slur for trannies or some shit. god they're so annoying
>>698362361Balless clit dick futa has always been a weird and gross half measure for fucking cowards. Squishy bastards, even.
This is a real meeting of the minds
>>698362791do you know what those two hormones do the body during puberty?
>>698363025>and then they say nobody is allowed to say futa/dickgirl anymore because it's a slur for trannies or some shitis this like a xitter only thing? Because I havent seen that ever
>>698359817trannies say that shemale and cuntboy are slurs, though
>>698358575>Okay it's gay then I don't careGood for you anon, now if only all futa and trapfags could admit that they're gay too
>>698362479western artists who predominantly don't include vaginas have hijacked the term and this sends closeted autists into a frenzy.
>>698363184Yeah it was a xitter thing for a bit but people generally don't give a fuck
>>698362479Tranies trying to poison the term like they try with trap, so you have more people talking about what futa actually means.
>>698363117>do you know what those two hormones do the body during puberty?yeah, it gave me hair in places I didn't want and it ruined my voice
>>698362532A woman could never understand the depths of a man's heart, or penis. They have no stake in what is or isn't gay.
>>698363185they also say that they are women, so maybe don't take everything out of them as gospel
The most obnoxious fetish. Straights don't want to see it and fags don't want to see it. Yet it insists itself and floods the booru catalogs
>>698362420There is no point to relationships without children. I can satisfy all my chemical needs without detrimentally complicating my life with a biovagina.
>>698363214because it's a scam? They're intentionally leaving it out for lgbt activist reasons but still want the popularity and audience of the futanari tag
>>698363185Nobody has ever used the term "cuntboy" outside the context of people getting off to it or people being weirded out by the people who get off to it
>>698363326idk what it is about futa specifically that makes art of any girl be 3/4ths futa
>>698362383 By its rules, a futanari can can have secondary sexual characteristics of a male, and still be considered a futaCorrect, futanari basically means hermaphrodite, which can have a male or female body as base, but because it is primarily a hentai term (a FICTIONAL thing like the fucking chart say), they use a female body
>>698363339>There is no point to relationships without childrenThere is no point wiping your ass after a shit if you're just going to shit again.This is your brain.
>>698363326>Straights don't want to see it and fags don't want to see it.Who do you imagine is making and seeking it out then?Before you give the reply that I'm expecting you to, I'm going to remind you that people have been jerking off to futa since before you were born, and also you are a gigantic cocksucking tourist faggot
>>698363326>Straights don't want to see ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-A8GvUehq4
>>698363238I'm sorry that happened
>>698363478>false equivalenceI always win.
>>698358368I'm old enough to remember when trannies simply weren't a thing.
>>698363326>my personal opinion is everyone'sretard alert
>>698363362They're leaving it out because it looks awful and they simply don't care about sticking to strict definitions.
>>698363608yeah, you're brain is flawed, i agree man.thats why im saying stop fapping to futa and get a real experience with a woman.and i mean a real one not a hooker or casual sex.of course, this upsets you, because it takes actual effort on your part to achieve what im telling you, which gives the brain a pain response which you're not used too and don't want.just trust what I say and give it a shot.or just fap again tomorrow. whatever!
>>698359901>fucking a futanari with a pussy is 100% straight,It's not. >how gay is fucking a femboy who grows a pussy and breasts but retains their cock despite being biologically male? Obviously less gay than fucking a femboy. More gay than fucking a woman.>would that be gayer than a biologically female futanari who woke up to find her pussy replaced by a cock?Precision counts at this granularity, and you're better off using all japanese terms rather than this tranny shit. >>698359817 "biologically female futanari" already is ambiguous to begin with. The way I read the rest of that starts with basic two penis mathematics. EG, a man who grows a second penis vs a woman who grows a penis and then grows a second penis replacing the vagina.
>>698363862>it's not because I say soget fucked nerd lmao
I really wish there was a game like GTA/Skyrim in terms of freedom and gameplay, and its world was all females and futas.No males anywhere. Just females and futas. Not a sex game either(though there could be romance I guess), just a normal open world action RPG.
there is literally nothing gay about being fucked in the ass by a futa with a footlong cock
>>698363431Male futanari is literally not a thing, all futanari are women with dicks."erm well technically by the definition" shut the fuck up, every single person who has ever conceived of and engaged with futanari content understands that it is an exclusively female category. It is not some high minded freaky bullshit about unaesthetic mishmashed human bodies, it is appreciating the beauty of the female form and the eroticism of the dick grafted onto it. Futanari exclusively appeals to people who are attracted to women.If you imagined a person who was a hairy, bearded, muscular, smelly man by all appearances, but had a vagina instead of a penis, any person with a functioning brain and libido would be able to tell you that obviously you would have to be attracted to men to be attracted to them at all. No "straight" guy would be able to stomach fucking a man (no technicality bullshit, a manly man) just because they have a pussy between their burly hairy legs.
>>698363710I'm sure a lot of people here are very checked out in trying at all and your advice comes off as very insincere
>>698357657Futa without vag isn't futa. Futanari LITERALLY means hermaphrodite in Japanese, which means they have both sets of sexual organs. It's basically a fantasy gender (vanishingly rare mutations where they don't actually function/are sterile don't count). Like the Rebis and a lot of other mythological stuff. If they're lacking a pussy, it's a shemale or a troon.
>>698364129A dickgirl without a vagina is a fantasy gender too, you dumbass mong.It's a girl just born with a dick and balls via the magic of fantasy.You're arguing out of your ego though, be it a futa or a dickgirl or a tranny, it's all bisexual to fap to.
>>698364129>it's a shemaleFine then, I'll make the shemale sissygasm from prostate trauma.
>>698364129it used to be a slang term for trannieslol
>>698364229me first ;3
>>698363948Not because I said so. This is a common error but is well understood with futanari calculus. To simplify it for this shitposting thread, imagine two identical futanari, the only exception being penis size. One has a petite 3 cm one with a tiny bow on it an the other is a veiny Berserk sized sword to split the heavens and challenge Lu Bu in battle. The amount of gayness does not remain the same, and you can test this via Xenos size queen.>>698364035Are balls touching? This is important.
>>698364216Yeah, if she was born with the feminine traits but also a dick that's a fantasy gender, too. I wasn't discounting that. Most of this shit is fantasy genders/sexes/whatever. It's just incorrect to call her a futa if the bitch ain't got a pussy.>You're arguing out of your ego though, be it a futa or a dickgirl or a tranny, it's all bisexual to fap to.I wasn't arguing whether it's gay or straight, just getting the terminology correct because getting it wrong is how troons get away with claiming that "trap" is a slur against them.
>>698364276Okay, I'll make you sissygasm from prostate trauma first, you little himbo bimbo
>>698362420She can also lie to you and trap you with kids too. Just because these guys are horny doesn't mean they're also open to romance and nest building. No need to endanger yourself if lust is the only factor in play.
>>698364542yippie
>>698364129stop playing into the tranny agendafictional dickgirls have nothing to do with trannies
>>698363862Japanese terms like "hefemale," sure thing you fucking retard>>698364129>Futanari LITERALLY means hermaphrodite in JapaneseIt "literally" does not, it's broadly equivalent but in practice it exclusively refers to the idealized fetish fantasy of a gynotypical woman with a penis. There's plenty of variation in those parameters, most obviously the "full dick and balls above full vagina" versus "weird clit dick vagina fusion."Historically most depictions of "body of a woman but with a penis and only a penis" would be categorized as "newhalf," but that also has specific connotations of referring to (again an idealized fantasy depiction of) transsexuals rather than a natural-born or magically altered form. But this term itself has generally fallen out of favor and people just use "futa" as an umbrella category for any natural or magically altered dickgirl, regardless of the specifics of her parts. There's not fucking laws about this shit man, it's all convention, trends happen and times change.
>>698361826i would if i could
>>698364538>wears ignorance as a badgewoman behavior. Go ahead and keep backpedaling to save your dignity
>>698364667it does though
>>698357561https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=6088577
>>698364851lmao that first comment
>>698364851cock too big>artist makes anthro poniesgay as fuck
For me its messy and coleslaw2
>>698364667To slow it down for the idiots who are having problems understanding: THIS image: >>698359817 is shit made by trannies. Functionally, I find pixiv and live action porn tags to be the most reasonable way of applying the language as it's used. t. Knows otokonokos from otokonokos.
>>698364216>be it a futa or a dickgirl or a tranny, it's all bisexual to fap to.I disagree with this generalization. I've been fapping to women, cute boys and futas for a long time but I'm still repulsed by most real men and trannies. Liking both parts and both bodies doesn't mean you like them in all shapes and sizes or mixed together, I'm sure there are bifags who are totally put off by the idea of girls with dicks just like I'm put off by the idea of a man with a vagina.
Kaine has a canonl big fat black cock... but why
>>698364851it's rare when the crop is better than the full pic
Street Fighter has a high tier trap that might fit the bill. Poison is supposed to be a ladyboy, though that started as an American localization thing that became more official.
>>698364939Aya Shobon, mdf an, sulcate are your next artists to check out.
>>698365036>blackhuh?
>>698364835And carpet literally means a car that is a pet.
genuinely do not understand futa purists. do you confirm the existence of a vagoo before you start fapping to it or do you recoil in disgust when they turn around and its not there?
>>698365030I am partially wrong in saying it's just bisexual.There's are two causes for it. Bisexuality, and lack of sexual experience causing your sexuality to refocus on the one object your brain associates sexual pleasure with; your own penis.So if you're getting off to futa, you're either bisexual or a touch-starved virgin. Nothing wrong with either really.
>>698364626That's why I said "OR a troon."
>>698365173
>>698365165In japan she's a futa, in America she's apperently post-op. The director actually said in an interview once that "in japan, Poison tucks her business away"
So is anyone actually gonna answer OP's question or sperg out about the definition for the 100th time?
>>698364835>if I post my argument as an image that makes it more validA woman with a dick is already "of two kinds," especially according to straightfag hardliners who argue having a dick is the most essential quality of masculinity."Lolita complex" does not exclusively refer to men who are really into Dolores from the novel Lolita, or even girls in the roughly 12-14 year age range. Etymology is not deterministic to meaning, words can mean things that are -literally- the complete opposite of what they "should" mean. Usage and standards change over time, that's how language works. And that's all especially true when you're talking about a foreign loanword used exclusively by freaks in niche subcultures.
>>698365324>post-opruined
>>698365172>implying I dont already know all of them
>>698357657Make sense why would you want a dick if theres a vagina and viceversa
>>698364939>>698365172boytoys is the only modern good one that remains. Hopefully after the troonmenace is gone everything will normalize (highly doubtful)
>>698365165There was something some trannies got mad at, that akuma said poison smell like a man which was supposed to be a wink at the audience and then a bunch of trannies got mad that trannies don't smell like men or something and he had to change it.
>>698365262I agree only in the sense that I believe a plurality of people are bisexual in the strictest sense if they were being honest with themselvesBut if you simply accept that a man having sex with a woman is straight sex regardless of if she has a penis, then there is no contradiction
>>698365329Frieren SUCKS She always has this too-cool-for-school-bitch-face going on. I wish so much that I could see her struggle to do ANYTHING for a moment. But no, she perpetually has Steven Seagal syndrome
>>698365525touch grass kiddo
>>698365451literally who? fap more if you think that's the only good one. Hirokawa is still pumping out bangers and Kawakami Masaki slowly built up to futa elf goodness.
>>698364040Beautifully said, brother.
>>698365623Yuri's descent into being a futa cumslut is the hottest shit ever
>>698365335the topic is about genitals being present, not whatever it is you're babbling about
>>698365623Hirokawa Doujin circle is called boytoys
>>698365549Frieren is the humble definition of a mary sue, and you know it as much as me.
>>698365186yeah bicycle is literally a sexual orientation of laundrytroons are so annoying
>>698365712Why not just say Otonano Omochiya like a respectable human being? Do you call them Rice balls too?
>>698365882because nigga you already know why
>>698365708I accept your concession
>>698364040tranny fucker lmao200% gay go suck a femcock fag
>>698364040You are being trolled m8. Futanari is the most normalfag straight-adjacent fetish in existence, no one hard gay actually likes futa.
>>698366053you conceded when you ducked the topic
>>698366097femcock is troon language and not worth engaging with. They're traps, get over it
>>698366258yea and its still fag shit just like futa is fag shitthere's literally studies on this that shows that individuals that consume this kind of pornographic material are closeted or bi but lets be real bi people dont exist.
>>698365525Literaly too stupid to watch a show, the whole story is about Frieren struggling with her emotional issues
>>698366325this only applies if you're white since japan had this for decades and it didn't affect them
>>698365186and a submarine is something that goes under water.
>>698357786Did they remove the video? I cant find it anywhere
>>698366097>go 150 posts deep in a thread about dickgirls>"ur gay lmao"Straightfags are not sending their best>>698366187How is explaining that your dipshit argument about "literal Japanese meaning" which wouldn't hold up even if you were correctly interpreting the language you can't read (you're not) is retarded "dodging the topic"If you want to actually argue about something try to get your ADHD zoomer brain to focus and follow the conversation, I don't care if you're too much of a lazy phoneposting fuck to type capital letters but you're gonna have to participate if you want another (You)
>futadegenerate fucking faggot shit>futa, mother and son*unzips*
>>698366382yea sure an extremely insular society that doesnt support gay propaganda o wait a minute oooOOoO! Now I get why they like futa. fuckin retard
>>698366452Anon you need to be killed
>>698366381More like lack of emotional issues. Here, let me show you Frieren's expression in any situation.:|^That's it. That's all she does.
>>698366443You didn't explain anything real and just interpreting off your trans apologist western brain. Maybe you should stop posting from your phone and use a second monitor to look up the japanese definition
>>698366395https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zl1L0oWVoU
>>698366325>there's literally studies on thislol>but lets be real bi people dont existlmao
Why do you guys take this so seriously?
>>698366542Anon you need mommy's cummies in your tummy
>>698366561>Literally too retarded to read facial expressions.
>>698366623super majority of individuals that self report as bi form long-term relationships with male partners bi people are just sexually exploratory deviants its not that hard low iq mutt
>>698366583What do you think "the definition" isJust kidding, I don't care what you think. Go back to /pol/ and lurk for 100 years before replying to me again.
for me it's herohero tom
i like girls with big boobs and cocks that cum
>>698366802holy based god I wish the world in those doujins was reality
>>698366325>there's literally studies on this that shows that individuals that consume this kind of pornographic material are closeted or bisources: your ass. the proof of the opposite has already been posted.>>698363571
>>698366469really ignorant statement that contradicts westerners trying to coopt the tag, hilarious
>>698366728>super majority of individuals that self report as bi form long-term relationships with male partnersA super majority of those "individuals" are also women you fucking retard
for me it's hidarikiki and uno makoto
>>698366773The japanese defnition is the only true definition. Go crawl back to r*ddit and lurk 100 years before outing yourself as a tourist
>>698366848once again proving the low iq of futa faggotsYou have a repressive society AYou have a homosexual instinct B How do you formulate that this situation solves itself? Ah right you pervert the sexual order to on a pornographic level. >>698366936exactly lmao fuckin retardgay shook rn finding out theyre gay
>>698366878>minor spelling mistakepost discarded
>>698366878i asked for male-on-futa once in a futa thread because i thought the whole point was they're still women so a lot of them are gonna be into dudes, and the whole thread got mad at me and told me male-on-"female" was less straight than "female"-on-"female" or "female"-on-femaleit was then i knew that futa is not most hetero. it's not hetero at all
>>698366710Yeah man, that scene where Frieren summons a mini black hole while making the :| face was so cool.Not.Meanwhile Goku is breaking his bones to go kaioken 10 and you can feel that he's actually struggling to achieve his goals. It's based as fuck.
>>698366878>guy who invented fascism wants to talk shit to me about fixating on rods
>>698367010That's literally not how it works or else everyone in america would be gay. You're such a retard
the completely made-up futa anthropology is tied with dragon/wyvern/wyrm autism for most IQ-draining collective waste of human potential>hmm I was going to jerk off to this image, but after examining the other images in this gallery, I have determined this picture qualifies as New-Half and not a True Futanari.
>>698367142awww poor closeted gay baby cant be honest with their homosexual desires while they dream about big futa cock awww poor baby
>>698366728Nah. The vast, vast majority of bisexual people are in heterosexual relationships because>massively larger dating pool>potential to have childrenAt the most generous estimates of how many people are gay or bi, it's still like 1/10 of the total population. That means that a bi person will probably have nine heterosexual options for every single homosexual option. Most bisexual people are functionally heterosexual just because of how the world works.
>>698367061cuck
>>698367142I don't mean to get all racial on you guys but I have noticed that a lot of black anons love futa on male.
>>698367170that's literally you that can't admit you're gay lmao
>>698363631No you aren't.
>>698367151Youre going to look retarded in 2000 years when futa are real and anthropologists have to read our posts to figure out where it all started
>American children get home from Christmas parties>thread immediately nosedives with shit stirring retards
>>698367179That's actually a fair counter >>698367225im not the one defending futa fag
>>698361826based.
>>698359279Reminder:>futanariA faggot>shemale/new-halfA faggot>dickgirlA faggot>futanari without ballsA faggotDon't get it wrong, kids!
They're both futa yes.
>>698360115Futa literally means TWO. TWO SETS OF GENITALS
>>698367289I dont see any bulges you lying faggot
>>698367256you're attacking it like you're getting exposed or something. Your logic while doing it doesn't even make sense you homo
>>698362479I've always been into it. I've just been hiding my power level on blue boards. I see other people talking about it and so it makes me want to respond.
>>698367334I'm criticizing/attacking it because the level of cognitive dissonance is disgusting. The amount of rationalization required to convince yourself that it's straight is, to me, absolutely reprehensible. Just say you're gay, and I have no problem with that. But convincing yourself that you're not? Disturbing.
if you like futa, or traps, or ladyboys, or whatever, just accept that you're gay and live with it. Your life will be easier if you just own your (homo)sexuality, my dude.>n-no, but I d-don't find men hot or a-anything... just c-cocks...doesn't matter, it's all gay at the end of the day. Nothing wrong with it in current year. Just like, stop lying to yourself about not being gay and you'll be happier.
>>698367179Bisexual women like fooling around with and kissing girls but still love cock, bisexual men can admit when a guy is cute but it's really hard to be more cute and effeminate than a woman.Bisexuals who are strongly attracted to the same sex are more likely to just identify as gay.
>>698367489This passive-aggressive faggot hostility toward sexual ideas that make you uncomfortable is typically motivated by insecurity about your own repressed cocklust. faggot.
>>698367489Explain to me how futa is gay. You literally cant because youre a retarded tourist
>>698367473Your logic still doesn't make sense and you insist straight porn is gay because there's a penis in it. Just admit you're gay and take the hits from your dad
>>698367473I think the only "cognitive dissonance" here is you people trying to convince us that having sex with women is gay.
>>698367221broken bucks just be that way
>>698367568coping gay baby >>698367559another coping gay baby >>698367605another coping gay babyone day you fags will admit it and be free
>>698367284nobody cares what a 'jak poster says
>>698365623Pro futa cock...
>>698367674there you go exit the closet my son
>>698367332It's tucked
>>698367736tucked inside ur assgottem
>>698367641This thread was never meant for you but you feel you needed to police the behavior around here just because it had some dick in it. Mass replying can't cover up how gay you are, sorry
>>698367759God I wish
>>698359513based Junko poster
I NEED an amazonian futa gf
>>698367785
By the definition, a hairy roided up man with a pussy instead of a penis is balls is straight.
>>698367937>take woman>add male qualities>BUT WHICH ONE IS GAY?both
>>698367921I accept your concession lmao
>>698368095 that was an abstraction calling you a gay crybaby hahahahahahfucking god man hahahaha
>>698368063Sorry man, there's a vagina there, it's straight.
>>698367641>c-cope! denial! fag!I have been jerking off to women, traps and dickgirls for probably longer than you've been alive and I still like women as much as I always have, probably more than ever now. I have no shame in admitting this because I'm not an insecure faggot, like you.
>>698368156you are a child
>>698367921Saving and posting this image is gayer than anything anyone else posting in this thread has ever done.
>>698368168Thankyou man! this is the thing the rest of them don't understand. You're out of the closet and im proud of you for that! Good for you!
>>698363326lol don't speak for me, faggot.i'm straight and i love watching dickgirls rail women. eat shit.
>>698367937>By the definition, a hairy roided up man with a pussy instead of a penis is balls is straight.This is what straightfags actually believe
>>698368156>>698368225you go girlit's everyone else that's gay even though it's you who's hyperfocused on it
>>698368063by this logic tomboys are gay
>>698365302>he actually doesnt knowits not uncommon for genitals to be darker than the rest of your body
>>698368348You refuse to see what I'm saying. I don't hate futa or gays or trannies well maybe trannies since that's too deluded. I hate people that present ideas as if there's no spatial relationship to exterior concepts. its a tldr way of saying be honest about the shit you like and don't pretend it is what it isn't. But unfortunately you idiots can't grasp that. That hatred isnt tied purely to sexual deviancy either I have a hatred of it in all forms.
>>698368436always wondered why my dick looks like I stole it from a black guy but the rest of me is whiter than snow
>>698362781i am white.
>>698368489who asked? there's no need to write a novel explaining why you act like a faggot
>>698359817imagine putting together this autistic ass chart and you STILL put words like "shemale" on itand I see that "10" in the corner. is this from a fucking BOOK?
>>698368489You must be 18 or older to browse this website.
>>698362781white chuds are the ones transitioning because they can't get any pussy lmaoyou'll be selling your bussy in under 5 years
>>698357561I wish futa on male was more common...
>>698368436DARK SHAFT
>>698368554It needs to be done because you guys don't have nearly enough pushback so occasionally I like to remind people of what they are there is a garden but you must pay to enter it and that price is honesty
>>698363094/v/ will filll three consecutive 500+ reply threads discussing futa before it talks about video games.
>>698368931yeah nice activism, faggot
>occasionally I like to remind people of what they are
>>698369048>>698369083easy lmao
GOD I WANT TO KISS AND FROT AND HAVE LOVEY DOVEY SEX WITH A CUTE FUTA GF AND MARRY HER AND MAKE HER MY WIFE AND DRESS HER IN CUTE CLOTHES AND FRILLY DRESSES THAT ACCENTUATE HER FEMININITY THAT JUXTAPOSES WITH HER CUTE BUT DECENTLY-SIZED COCK WHEN WE HAVE SEX AND SHE'S SHY AND FLUSTERED WHEN I TAKE HER COCK IN MY MOUTH AND TEASE HER TIP WITH MY TONGUE
A haikuFuta: straight or gay The eternal argumentNot video games
>>698357657>Semantics shitters ruining the thread before it even began
People will say you are gay for wanting to suck and lick this
>>698361826Women are repulsed by me and all look at me like I’m subhuman when they pass me in the streets. I’ll keep fapping.
>>698369347where did you get this photo of me?
>>698368708i spent who knows how much time looking for high quality content for male TO futa
>>698357657This post triggers the most retarded form of autism known to man: The strict futanari definition autist.
>>698369146GOD I WANT TO GO BALLS DEEP IN CRIM'S ANGELPUSSY PULLING HIM TIGHT AND POUNDING HIS BABYMAKER TO STIMULATE HIS MASSIVE FUCKING MEAT ROD FROM THE INSIDE WHILE GIVING A REACHAROUND TO THAT TWENTY INCH CUNT DESTROYER AND SNIFFING HIS HAIR AND LICKING HIS NECK UNTIL HE CUMS WITH HIS PUSSY AND UNLOADS HIS FIRE HOSE CLAMPING DOWN AND SQUEEZING ME DRY UNTIL WE COLLAPSE IN A WET MESS OF SWEAT AND HOLY SEMEN
>>698363193why, what do you think youll gain?
>>698363085Those are fighting words
>>698368436>>698368528This is how my shit is too, but I'm also a Sicilian mutt.
>>698359817>Why does /v/ have so much trouble understanding the meaning of words?Dude, people can't even maintain the definition of "proc", which literally has its definition built in by it's initials. Programmable Random Occurrence. The keyword is Random. It refers to random events, but people use it for non-random things all the time.Proc is no different than AoE, CC, or DOT. Yet people still get it wrong. Not even acronyms are safe. Trust me, it's not a fight you can win.
>>698368708Shit's pretty common now, a decade ago I was starving, but now the niche is pretty well catered to in all fronts, games, animations, manga, and just depictions overall.
>>698358575based
>>698357561Outside of dedicated japanese/chinese adult games, probably none
Sucking big fat futa cock is NOT gay okay?ITS NOT!
>>698369965this post was made by a straight man
>>698369385sorry i didnt have a witty comeback
>>698369965im confused why it matters to you "straight" dudes so much
I don't want a futa GF, I want a futa wife!
>>698366542Come kill me, please.
>>698368436YepIm white but my dick wouldnt look out of place on an arab or indianExcept for the size, no jeet has an 8 incher
>your futa wife will never rewrite your DNA through sheer force of will by cumming inside you so many times it somehow becomes possible for her to mpreg youwhy even live bros?
>>698370837>this kills the thread
>>698357561>Spamming the exact same futa thread AGAINyou faggots are all mentally ill queers holy shit
>>698371351so mad
>>698369965I say this
>>698371351stop spewing nonsense an bring dat purddy mouf over here boi
>>698370686I want a biological female (xx) without female genitals but male genitals. I do not want a man (xy) on hormones, with makeup and fake tits.To play vidya with.And to mutually suck each others' cocks.
>>698371785sent ;)
>>698370837>mpregNo half measures, just turn me into a girl
>>698371929I mean, that's the ideal but we take what we can get
>>698357657eeww, it's the other way around, when futa gets fucked in the vag and starts furiously cumming, or when her pussy starts dripping from fucking the other chick too hard.
>>698371785Based, same, etc.
>>698357561sex with her vagina while stroking her cock
>>698372326this is the way
For me it's sloppy spit filled kisses followed be her jamming her dirty and fat cock in my mouth.
>>698357561male on futa
>>698373364male on futa on male on futa on male on futa on
Futa is NOT GAy>>698373364This is fucking gay
>implied_futanari
>love futa on female>it's all hypersized elephant dicksWhy can't there just be normal sized futa? I HATE IT!
>>698374867because it's made by men
>>698374973and that's a good thing™
>futa thread>futatards wants to be on topic>thread gets derailed by retards that could've just not clicked on the threadfucking retards man. these threads remind me of the cesspit this site has become and how many bots there are
futa is 4chan culture
>>698375518>futa thread>thread gets derailedderailed from what? it was an offtopic thread anyway
i like my girls how i like my ice cream; with nuts
>>698375631it was ontopic about futas mouthbreather
>>698375627>>698375651Based chads>>698375631Cringe virgin
>>698375673not video games
>>698375631futa threads are on-topic during 4chan holidaysdon't ask me why, I don't make the rules
>>698375746whatever, now it's derailed for sure, don't thank me
>>698375738don't you see complaining about the other ''definitely'' on topic threads like AI images to say the leastwhat are you even doing here :)
>>698375795making your life miserable
/u/ doesn't like it when you mention this, but a lot of futa artists have roots in yuri. There's a ton of yuri artists who at some point have what seems to be a /d/ awakening and start drawing on of the two girls with a penis.Anyways, here's some fap material.https://exhentai.org/g/2667849/f065d5f833/https://exhentai.org/g/2506782/d1d8f70ccb/https://exhentai.org/g/2727593/a1b31840f5/
>>698375831>he does it for free
>>698375848merry crimbus
>>698375831I'm not miserable, just extremely confused by your stupidityyou could do something fun but instead you do this
>>698375918this is fun
>>698357561Star Periphery
I just want more romantic futa like bra girl.
>>698376008the glacial content pace is torture
>girl on right is the futa romance option>you marry her>she impregnates herself>promises you can knock her up next time
>>698376008And the tread is dead. Thank you.
>>698375848>kataokasanWonder what happend to him. Was on hix fanbox for a while until he just up and deleted his account. I think he mentioned at some point something about being cautios because the ccp might get him for his stuff.
>>698376160he hasn't been here for some time, too busy jerking it to men on /gif/also the game itself isn't bad but the fact that the dev has been slowly turning into another weg scam despite saying he wouldn't is pretty funny
>>698370686Sinse when is Hina a futa?
>>698376151My wife cheated with me with my wife and now I have to raise my wife's son?
>>698376246I don't give a crap about the game or the dev, only the ceasless shilling is so tiresome.And I'm done talking about it as not to shit up the thread any further.
>>698376317>ceaseless shilling>one post in a thread about futa lol
>>698370686Gam?
The villain of SMT: DDS 1-2 is a futa voiced in English by the lady that does The Major from GITS:SAC
>>698375848my hero
futa on female > every other type of futahyperfags can kill themselves though
>>698376283Never, she just had one goof thanks to Dizzy or Rie I don't quite remember, recommending she play genital jousting. With a green screen around her crotch. Perfect prank honestly, but the idea of a ditzy futa bimbo is just as perfect.>>698376376Genital Jousting, despite what one might assume, its not hot or erotic.
futa on male (femboy) > every other type of futahyperfags can kill themselves though
>>698376452>>698376497the duality of man
/v/ - cocksucking general
>>698376754is /v/ full of girls, or y'all just gay me?
>>698376317>tired of shilling on /v/ - Videogame Advertisingsounds like a you problem retardever heard of filters?
>>698376827yes
>>698376754I literally suck cock at least once a week. I'm not joking or exaggerating.
>>698377131basedkeep it up
>>698377235already have my next appointment set up for Sunday so don't worry I'm going to
>>698376190So you know the red-head chick he draws a lot, Exusiai? He got fed up with the developers of her game treating her like shit. By that I mean she never gets story content and gets repeatedly powercreeped.So he lost motivation to draw and just peace'd out. He says he'll come back when she gets better treatment or when he finds a new series to get invested in.
>>698377335You're already hellbound, don't worry.
>GLUCK GLUCK GLUCK GLAG GLAG GLAG
>>698357561Futa Is gay and for faggots
>>698377609I'm bound for penis in my mouth
>>698377131Man cock or girl cock?
>>698377773girlcock unfortunately doesn't exist, so mancock.
>>698357657This nigga gay
>>698377675Whatever makes you happy, Destiny
>>698377930i'm not a libtard and I suck cock way better than he does
>>698377609pfft
>>698377609would you like a blowjob
>>698357561Hedon, and it's good shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNAWaXKqUL0
>>698357561looks like it's time to polish that Christmas spear!
>>698361826>long term relationship and passionate emotional sexnot all it's cracked up to be
>>698375006Women are too afraid of big cockshttps://files.catbox.moe/di89zh.mp4
>>698379593Ain't that a bitch? Lust is really a motherfucker.
>>698378690looked it up, I only see fanart so I'm assuming it's not actually a factor in-game
>>698357657i have news for youyou prefer the sexual company of men
>>698378690Damn, this music makes me want to listen to The Sword.
Casual porn threads are getting too common on /v/, and this is not just a holiday thing
>>698357904Your homosexual, faggot faggot faggot go back
>>698379697damnthat's allowed on twitch now?
>>698380997It was allowed for one day before Twitch rolled that back.
>>698380914methinks the baby boi wants some cummy wummy in their tummy ;3
>>698367326yeah. boobs (1) + dick (2) = futa :)
>>698381097technically that's a dickgirl
>>698376754>/v/ - cocksucking generalAlways has been
almost 400 posts and there's only like 1 or 2 answers to OP's question
>>698357561I like hung, submissive futas. Shame they’re so rare and the majority of “art” featuring them has them getting fucked by monsters, niggers, ugly bastards, etc.
>>698381131yeah. dickgirl=futa :)
I just fap to futa on female porn of my waifu.https://files.catbox.moe/ayj0lh.mp4
The people in these futa threads that are enraged by the fetish know that they are attracted to the hot girls, but they are angry because the hot girls have a dick
>>698381256you're thinking of trannies anon
>>698381259That poor futa is being violated! SHE IS NOT JUST FUCKMEAT! FUTA LIVES MATTER!
I'm straight and occasionally love futa so futa must be straight
>>698357657Stfu faggot
>>698357657Ejaculate yourself.
>>698381618The thinker
If futa is gay, I don't want to be straight.
>>698381489How about reversed then?https://files.catbox.moe/b0z174.mp4
So if it's gay when a man likes a woman that has a dick, then it is scientifically straight to like a man that has a vagina
>>698381474>you're thinking of tranniesthat'd be you, friendo.
>>698377919>as opposed to futanari with a pussy under her huge cock
>>698382306>no uThe average intelligence of a tranny lover.
>>698382365>im thinking of trannies>yeah you are>n-NO
>>698357561I wish futa were real
>>698382257anything besides liking a normal woman with a normal pussy is some form of degeneracy.>cuntboys and dickgirls2 sides of the same spectrum you're a degenerate and not normal
>>698382362imagine a futa using those dickmuscles to clench your dick inside her pussy.
>>698382753they are real at >>>/gif/ according to some anons this thread
>>698382753same.
>>698382753I want to get double teamed by them.
>>698382812>imagine a futa using those dickmuscles to clench your dickyou're so gay that you make the act of fucking pussy gay.impressive in a messed up way.
just come out already
>>698382753Go to Brazil you can find one that's close enough
>>698382925>josouseme & futadom
Why do futafags get so enraged when you call them out on their tranny fetish?
>>698367113Based face blind autist
>>698359902We love Bible Black around here.
>>698383115Because there's a difference between someone born a male that wants to transition vs someone born a female in every respect except they have a cock. One is real and the other is not.
>>698359902They were intersex.
>>698383371>someone born a female in every respect except they have a cockso, a tranny
>>698383115because they're attracted to futanari not trannies. that or they're closeted faggots who think futa is straight, depends on the case
>>698383371that's just a guy but with boobs
>>698383440No retard. A tranny is someone who transitions (hence the name). There's no transition here.>>698383312My first futa hentai. Some of those scenes are still hot as fuck even today.
>>698383440nta but no, a tranny is a man with tits, in that is included the build of a man, mental illness and whatnot, futas are a purely fictional thing. what you're saying is the equivalent of saying "being attracted to orcs means you're attracted to niggers" or "calling elfs a bunch of faggots means you think white people are faggots"
>>698362479>sudden
>>698383589>"being attracted to orcs means you're attracted to niggers" true and factual>"calling elfs a bunch of faggots means you think white people are faggots"This is false because elves are obviously asians but its absolutely true all asians are faggotsTherefore you love trannies and are gay
>>698383440you dumb retardin your haste to stick it to troons you give them the legitimacy they desperately craveabsolute fucking mong
>>698383656can't argue with that logic
>>698383440Not that I care either way but futanari is a fictional being with both genetalia. Trannies have neither.
>>698365165I absolutely want to drink this Poison.
>>698383656>This is false because elves are obviously asiansthey don't have small eyes and they're blonde and pure white. your explanation is pure cope because you want to confuse reality with fiction but only when it suits you
>>698383749all i'm hearing is cope go masturbate to dicks straight boy
Gaijin having futa and tentacle fetishes is total cringe.
>>698383701>>698383580everyone is calling me names, but no one can explain why I am wrong... hmm really makes me think.anyway, cock=male, end of the argument
>>698383580>A tranny is someone who transitions>>Rise and consolidation of imperial Rome>>A period of unrest and civil wars in the 1st century bce marked the *transition* of Rome from a republic to an empire.
>>698383853Rome is a tranny state?
If liking futa isn't gay, then a man who likes both men and futa but not regular women with pussy would be bisexual.
>>698383904romans were 100% faggots
>>698383789>go masturbate to dicks>straight boyyou're sending mixed messages
>>698367674This man is one with the source.
>>698383923Damn, I always had that suspicion.
>>698383934you're autistic lol
>>698383935Cody getting clapped by massive Poison futa cock is a perfect pairing
>>698363085that's what futa was before people started slapping ballsacks onto themlook at futa porn from pre-2000 and up to 2005 or so and it'll mostly be nutsack-less
>>698383904>Rome is a tranny state?they fucked boys on the side so, yeah. romans were woke and pozzed
>>698368310Wisdom.
>>698369843Poison simply cannot be resisted.
>>698383915Irrefutable.
>>698384064would drink every drop of my queen's urine
>>698367674
>>698369843>that one doujin where they rape a shota
>>698370837If she's already rewriting my DNA, just make me a girl at that point. I'm already useless like one. Reality would only get more real.
>>698383994This is why we say you can’t meme
>>698359279based I have a feeling it's japs that enjoy ball less futaas always, Japs are retarded
UR A FAGET
I want to kiss you, but your lips are venomous poison.You're poison running through my veins. Poison.And I don't wanna break these chains. Poison.
Nintendo's stance on the trans debate is clear.
>>698367228>AI stopped reading here
Futas are women.Troons will NEVER be women.
at this point I don't know who's more retardedthe people constantly engaging with a topic they don't like or the retards never engaging with the topic they do like, because they're eating bait for a living
>>698385175You can be both a futa enjoyer and also tell futafags they're gay cuz they are
>>698385241>futa enjoyer>willingly not talk about futayou gotta do better if you're gonna falseflag like that
>>698385124BASED
>>698385290first day on /v/?
If futas were real I would 100% be slamming back futa cock, I'm a giant fag for a world that doesn't exist.>>698383986Cody is canonically one of the strongest niggas in Street Fighter lore, if anyone's asshole is getting gaped it's Poison's
>>698385290
>>698357657vagina under a dick just looks wrongmore like an axe wound ironicaly
>>698357657This is a tranny falseflaging btw.
>>698385524falseflag?
>>698385684a flag that isn't true
>>698357657I don't care if this is bait or not, I just want to say full package futa is the superior choice.
>>698370837>you will never be a stay at home boywife to a futanari who loves and cherishes you
>>698385175
Why do these threads always reach bump limit?
>>698357561cannon futa
>>698375848yurifags are all troons and always have been, what's surprising about this?
/v/ WHY DO YOU BAIT?/v/ WHY ARE YOU SO GAY?WHY DO YOU HATE ALL THEM GAMES THAT YOU DON'T PLAY?
>>698382753>biggest cock topswronghttps://n2.kemono.su/data/5b/fc/5bfc42473d3a89bc230a23fbd0925acead21ab342c5d1d93be9629a746ef7bff.png
>>698387642kek
>>698376283Her name is Futanari Hina after all
>>698386425What is a boywife, wouldn't you just be a wife (male)?
>>698357657As a level 99 coomer with no hope of ever entering a relationship;Futa with a vagina just looks really weird. Vagina + Balls might be acceptable but Vagina + No Balls looks like a horror mutant.
Mental illness. So glad Trump will legalize hunting faggots like you soon.
Futa is gay, because a faggot wouldn't suddenly be considered straight if he started to jerk off to futa.
>>698365186that's not even remotely analogous
>>698383115Because the vast majority of them are bottoms coping that theyre straight, its cognitive dissonance and absolutely repulsive to deal with
>>698357561The new ciri is a futa
>>698389781>MC is a futaI will now buy your game.
>>698389485even if your schizophrenic fantasy was true, YOU would not be hunting anyone, in fact you'd be hunted for spending your time in a futa thread
Good thread see you guys next time
>>698389402>What is a boywifea wife(but male)>wouldn't you just be a wife (male)that's what i said
For me its futa on (male)
>>698389939>in fact you'd be hunted for spending your time in a futa threaddon't point out his hypocrisy or engage with him the faggot is just here to shitpost>>698390001bye
>>698389939>leftist faggots thinking they can hunt anythingYou can't even open a bottle without your soi bot, and most of you don't even own guns. You're fucked.
>>698390152Based
>>698390274terrible reading comprehensionsee you in 4 years, I bet you'll still be browsing futa threads then
>>6983905754 years from now on, you will already be deep inside a grave that uses your birth name, troon faggot.
Abdominal pregnancy 3 when
>>698390867classic.>whenjust like lisa the pointless and silksong, never ever
>>698357657fpbp
>>698390152GayMale on futa is where its at
>>698358575this>>698379868yeah, it's more like secret lore but it's canon and the game has sexy girls>>698380882I wish more non porn games had a bit of spice in them, in it's characters, I'm tired of WWW (triple woke) gaming >>698381167I think v has xenophilia in general; futas, femboys, anthros, feral cats, robots, aliens, monster girls and (monster) girls...
>>698390152BasedI would have also accepted futa on male on futa
>>698391907Where the fuck do you see canon futa confirmation in Hedon???
