this slop is PAINFULLY slowSTOP IT WITH THE FUCKING KITCHEN SCENES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>698586324Read a better visual novel, you virgin.
>play cooking VN>complain about cooking
>>698586686i already read s;g
>he fell for the fsn is good memelmao dumbass
>>698586324I await the great.
>>698586781this but unironically
>>698586324There is nothing more boring in this VN than the scene where Ilya and Rin describe the history of the Holy Grail War. By far the least interesting and most dull exposition I couldn't give less of a shit about I've experienced in a video game. I dare you to not get bored during that scene, holy fucking Christ.
>>698586686Pic unrelated
>>698586781it was good back in the day before we experienced true kamige like subahibi and muramasa
also FUCK nasu>m-m-muh le high stakes meme war that we can only do at night>go to school/waste all day cooking instead of sleeping and that get your ass kicked because you wanna sleep
>his le special attack is so deadly...it has 100% accuracy and le rewrites reality to make sure it hits......>misses anyway because his luck stat was too lowThank god this shit outed itself as garbage in the first 10 minutes and saved me a bunch of time
>>698586324The Fate route is just there to setup the setting and familiarize you with the characters.UBW is there to explore Shirou's character.HF is the climax of the story.
>>698586324>start it>1 hour of following a character's morning routine to an autistic degreeFuck me
>>698587148powerlevelfags can't stop being retarded
>sakura: "shirou let's have sex i want your cum impregnate me please">shirou: hmmm, what did she mean by that? maybe... she likes me?? no way.... that can't be... she's just a kind person like that! "ANYWAY gotta makes breakfast. sakura, wanna help me?"
>>698587179>HF is the climax of the story.it's a mess>>698587327yeah, hf is really dumb if you think about it for more than two seconds
>>698587179>HF is the climax of the story.i''m on day 10 of HF and THEY ARE COOKING. i like the high and the overall direction this route is taking but holy shit 9/10 is just filled
>>698586978It was always shit, because it was a massive let-down after tsukihime.
How bad is the retranslation?
>>698587179Heaven's Feel is so fucking good.
>>698587410Unironically, people only ever discuss what happens in the final two days.It's really really bad.
>>698587179>the intro to the story becomes the fan favourite because the love interest utterly mogs the love interests of the following routesHow did HACKsu not see this coming?>uhhh I have a great idea! let's give the readers the perfect girl in the first route and end the story by giving the readers a loose, nymphomaniac whore! I bet EVERYONE's gonna LOVE it!!!Nascuck probably.
>>698587530Tsukihime was a bigger mess as a whole than HF.>>698587686>Teme = YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE
>>698587686it's good
>>698586686SG itself is like 40 something hours. Not as long as Fate but I doubt that OP would be able to tolerate it either, VNs just aren't for him clearly.
>>698587841>>Teme = YOU FUCKING ASSHOLEthat's correct tho, you don't know japanese, stfu
>>698587801It's okay, they eventually fixed the mistake.
>>698586721I am a Master Chef, Steel is my body and fire is my blood, I have created over a thousand recipes. Unknown to Hunger nor to Ambrosia, I Have withstood pain to create many cultural arts. Yet, those hands will never hold anything So as I pray, Unlimited Sliver Ware.
>>698587940It literally means you.
>>698586721>not King Arthur brand
>>698588040no it literally doesn't
>Cold open with Shirou summoning Saber>Jumps back to introduce the setting with Rin which ends with Shirou summoning Saber>Jumps back AGAIN to revisit the same exact shit as Rin but with a more boring character to lead to the same fucking scene we've seen twice already>This takes around 8 hoursI'm not one to go on about games "respecting my time" but I could have finished Half Life, SotN, MGS, any number of games, even started and finished reading something like The Hobbit in the time it took for this bullshit to """""contextualize""""" a single fucking scene they showed in the first SECONDS that didn't need any sort of excruciatingly long build up.
>>698587912s;g is at least half the lenght while also at least twice as good
>>698586324>already thinking there's too much cookingOh boy, just wait till you get to Heaven's Feel.
>>698588082piss off, retard
>>698586721F/sn would have unironically been far better if it was just a straight cooking VN and the Holy Grail War was a cooking competition
>>698586324Every proper VN I’ve read that’s not something like Danganronpa has had terrible pacing to varying degrees. At this point when I hear that a VN is super long I assume most of it just a bunch of nothing that can be skipped, with a few good moments. The last time I had this experience was Chaos;Child. A solid 40 hours of this is pure fucking nothing. You could skip huge chunks and still come out with the same understanding of the plot and even its cast and the full breadth of their personalities.
>>698588194temeeeeeeeeeee....
>>698588224>Every proper VN I’ve read that’s not something like Danganronpa has had terrible pacing to varying degrees.Because VNs are bloated garbage that pad their stories with a ton of unnecessary shit because 9/10 VNs double as dating sims. Even FSN.
>>698588150it's not even a third as longfsn is 1758959 characters long while steins;gate is 569763
>MaHoYoWhat about this VN?I got up to this bit while waiting for any kind of cool ongoing storyline to start. Then it became clear that the VN is basically over.Is it even worth finishing or is it just hours of confirming my disillusionment ahead?
>>698588439>fsn but even more filler/cooking/nothingburgerswell, at least it's """short""", haha...
>>698586324It's really odd considering that Tsukihime was decently paced
>>698587530Tsukihime's not good either
Anyone got a webm of the game before the patchWith the falling CGs
>>698588623tsukihime also is half as long
>>698586324fate zero is the only fate media worth consuming
>>698588892i WILL read h/a, i WILL shit on it, and you CAN'T stop me
>>698586686S;G is such an overrated visual novel. I want my time back.
>>698587327kek
>>698588498thanks for confirming my suspicions, I guess...I tolerated the interminable SOL because I thought it might be a way of deepening whatever came after.seems like the only 'after' the author planned was just one big event as a fuck-you
>>698586324Isn't this game full of rape?
>>698589204i wish....
>>698589204It only happens to one character so it's okay.
you know in ubw someway mid route there's one of the school girls that disappear and reappears found in an alley a couple of days later? what's up with that, does it get explained in hf?
There should have been a Gilgamesh (female) route.
>>698588439mahoyo is only worth reading to experience the amusement park fight
>>698589373it should've been a dating sim/harem with all-female servants
>>698589204if onlyjust a lot of cock teasing sexual humiliation
>>698589467might as well wait for the 2h ufoslop movie
>>698586686you fuckers call FSN ""babys first vn"', and FSN would be my first vn
>>698589347The forgotten normie tomboy Shirou is unaware wants to fuck him.Rider gave her the succ, as shown in the HF movie.it's funny because in hollow ataraxia she's all rapey around her and it's kept vague whether it's sexual or plain old predatory for her blood
>>698587179I read the first two but couldn't be bothered to read HF
>>698586892the way that angry mango lore dump is handled is one of the worst ones i've ever seen in media.
>30+ hours of nothing>cooking, exposition dump, shirou being insufferable, and other trite shit>climatic battle is just an ass pull>"um actually it gets good after the first route">also this is the greatest vn of all time btwwhat the fuck
>>698587179>"it gets good 80 hours in bro!"
>>698586892>>698589773I have only seen the heavens' feel movie and I remember it being interesting
>>698586324>demake slop
>>698589884Should I watch it? I've only watched oath under the snow but that's prisma Illya
>>698589837>>30+ hours of nothing>>cooking, exposition dump, shirou being insufferable, and other trite shit>>climatic battle is just an ass pullthat's literally ubw
>>698589643I remember Rider asking her about her diet, she's probably concerned about her blood staying rich with nutrients
>>698589943it's literally the same game
>>698588820the Arc sex scene in the soon to be landshark'd hotel was probably the worst thing i have ever read it felt like it took 2 hours to read
when does the rape happens?
>>698590018there are 3 heaven feel movies and I enjoyed them
>>698590204there's no rape in this vn
>sex scene>readbro...
>>698586324I always skip any and all food scenes.I'll never understand why Japanese prefer talking about food to eating it. Describing taste and smell is NEVER interesting.
Let's be real.The romances and stories fall flat without the sex.
>>698590293:(
>>698590018nothe hf movies are by far the worst fsn adaptation after deen ubw
>>698590319i do not gaze away from the truth
>>698590204all the rape is off-screen.
>>698590227Ok thanks.
>Should I just watch the anime->NOOO YOU MUST PLAY THE BORING VN FROM 20 YEARS AGO!!!! YOU WILL PROBABLY HATE IT AND SHIT ON FATE FOREVER BUT YOU GOT THE TRUE EXPERIENCE!!!congrats vn fags. you are killing the series.
>>698588439Mahoyo is pretty good but its functionally SoL. Theirs maybe three fights in the whole thing and one of them is kind of bullshit.
>>698590667>>NOOO YOU MUST PLAY THE BORING VN FROM 20 YEARS AGO!!!! YOU WILL PROBABLY HATE IT AND SHIT ON FATE FOREVER BUT YOU GOT THE TRUE EXPERIENCE!!!uhm, ACTUALLY, it came out this year
>>698586324Play FGO like the rest of us, skip this boring shit
>>698589643>The forgotten normie tomboy Shirou is unaware wants to fuck him.Man I wish my school had a high jump if it's that easy to get bitches on your dick by trying it over and over until you make it
I fried the marlin filets golden-brown and made an elegant onions sauce marinade that brings out the fragrance of ginger. Tohsaka seems fond of it.
>>698590667Kill and rape yourself faggot.You WILL read the VN. You WILL like it. KILL AND RAPE YOURSELF OTHERWISE.
tbf you should read the original 04's unvoiced version
>>698586324>FSN>Saber is a complex character, very honorable but can be brutal and ruthless with her enemies>Zero by Urobutcher>Saber is so naive and whiny with her moralfagging!Jesus what a downgrade compared to the original, Zero is the Starcraft 2 of Fate
>>698588439You got tricked, Mahoyo is 99% SoL and end of century melancholy vibes featuring autistic mountainman and some autistic girls in the background
I love the SoL, I would read 100 hours of the Fate characters just fucking around. That is why Ataraxia is so fun
>>698590667>you are killing the series.good
>>698591123Fate Zero is for the grown ups. You wouldnt understand it.
>>698590756>play fgo>get in debtthanks
>>698590667don't careI'm not going to recommend someone to watch mediocre movies that ruin scenes and characters
>>698586686fippie bippie
>>698589467While I love the amusment part fight, the character moments between Aoko, Alice and Soujyoru as a whole are great and what made me stick around. The last few chapters are great as well. Especially watching Soujyoru take down Lugh
>>698586686>steins gate being good...
>>698586686>Reddit;Gate
>>698591396>>698591394>reddit/slop mid
>>698591236that's literally almost $2k debtholy shit
I'm so tired of people just copying each other about the cooking scene shit. Literally every single one of those scenes is used to present something or push the plot in some way as it's an easy excuse to get various characters together in order for them to talk. You all act as if there's no reason for them and it's talked about so much that as soon as I see someone complain about it I know I can safely disregard them as a complete fucking retard who either likely hasn't read it or read it 10 years ago and has since spent far too much time in these threads to such a degree their brain has withered away. Fuck you.
>>698586686>first post>it's the best post>it's also the best rated VN of all times I kneel
>read Murumasa expecting kamige from all the hype around it>it is just tranny / NTR where the MC whines for a million years
>>698591441ummm but where is the sword guy and his many swords??
>>698591475>>it's also the best rated VN of all timesnot anymore
>>698591334>
>>698591139when that mountain village was mentioned i thought it was a more impoverished hinamizawa. not people subsisting on berries and getting mauled by wild dogs.
>>698591441>Literally every single one of those scenes is used to present something or push the plot in some waylmao, even lol
>>698591532Yes it is, it overtook Muv Luv some time ago.
>>698591219No, Zero is for edgy teens.>MC's sidekick? she was RAPED>that chick that was strangled? she's now a VEGGIE>burger? tastes like SLAUGHTER
>>698591532?
>>698591649ThisFate/Zero's masters are all manchildren. At least in Stay Night they're teenagers.
>>698591678Literally the most overrated visual novels of all time.
Remind me why we are supposed to hate SoL again?
>>698590886The best part? He never even succeeded. You don't even have to actually make it.
>>698591441>present something or push the plotwhat pressing plot points were discussed with taiga and sakura in fate and ubw? very interesting way to push the plot forward by the way
>>698591546It's not bait
>>698591767bad SoL(FSN) is a slog to readgood SoL(FHA/Mahoyo) is fun
>>698591649>>698591731As I already said. You wouldn't understand it.
>>698591630>(((bayesian))) ratingngmi
>>698590667I read the VN and watched the anime and movies
do people still fall for this weak bait? i don't get it. you have to be stupid as shit to read a VN and complain about it being slow. go play an rpg if you want shit constantly happening.
>>698591968>implying those VNs are better than S;Gngmi
>>698591959copeseethedilate
>>698591649Good thing the fact that edgy teens have the best taste in media has been proven and vindicated a million times in history
>>698592004>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE STANDARDS!!!! SLOP JAPAN LE GOOOOOD!
>>698590667based animeGOD
>>698592042Steins;Gate isn't even a top 30 visual novel.
>>698592042>implying you can read japanese to know thatngmi
I liked Hollow Ataraxia more, probably because of the tone.
>>698591767Sorry I can't just take SoL scenes seriously when there's A FUCKING WAR GOING ON OUT THERE DUDE YOU'RE BEING HUNTED WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU PREPARED STEAMED RICE ONIONS SAUCE A MISO SOUP AND TRIED WESTERN CUISINE FOR A CHANGE
>>698592137(You)
>>698592215it had best girl and best boy
>>698591968>less than 100 votesmeme
>>698591891How about you stop being a parrot and look for yourself.
>>698591932Tsuki;Re had some amazing SoL moments toohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mOHONTRNP8
>read about Fate lorewtf are these japs smoking?
>>698592167I know they aren't better because I don't trust JOP opinions.
>>698592221this, at least f/ha is self-aware
>>698592315w**d
>>69859224260 are enough
>>698592221>he doesn't enjoy the little moments when his life is at risk and could end at any momentngmi
>>698592315it's nasu's high school d&d setting>>698592307I prefer Akiha asking Shiki if he had sexual relations with that woman.
>If I make a smug post about how I didn't read something because "it would be bad anyway" I won't look like a low IQ nigger who can't read/v/...
>>698590667VNiggas be like yooo where are the 1000 word essays in this action focused anime baka
>>698592406Kara no Kyoukai was 80% shit
>>698592004this is the bait. "all VNs are slow shit where nothing happens for 10 hours at a time" a VN like white album 2 isn't action packed but it always tries to keep your attention with relevant shit happeningsay what you want about danganronpa, but that shit is anything but slow and shit is constantly happeningfate has extended moments where nothing of value is happening, and that's a knock against it
>>698586324>fateshitread a better vn pleb
>>698591959True, I'm too old for it
>>698586324Power through it faggot. The ending is worth it.
>>698586686Steins;Gate is slop btw.
>>698592306i'm guessing you forgot as well? no problem, probably wasn't too interesting
>"VNiggas be like yooo where are the 1000 word essays in this action focused anime baka" aaaand send.
>>698592562>it gets good 80 hours in
>>698592524is this the part where you try to act like that dogshit dies irae is some work of genius?
>>698592562this is my last cope, i hope >>698587771 is correct
>>698587179I read Fate, fell in love with Saber and didn't want to do any other route after that.I also didn't get to the true end of Nier Automata. The one where you shoot the credits and get a happy end. I stopped when 9s I think got into a rocket or something. I guess I'm a sucker for bitter sweet endings, but I kinda regret not having experienced the full thing organically.
>>698592315Fate is a ripoff of Makai Tensho anyway
>>698592683Urobuchi has been telling the same story for so fucking long.
>>698592616Steins;Gate is definitely a better VN and it's just as entry level.
>>698592683You are correct and THEY will get angry over it. But you are correct.
NOTHING FUCKING HAPPENED REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>698592683i like bluebeard and ryoji but kerry's kinda gay
>>698592747Why Steins;Gate fags always act like their mid VN is better than Fate? It's not.
>>698592406damn give me that
>>698587686the usual localizer shenanigans. intent changed. character personalities changed. memes inserted. problematic content censored
>>698592587Squawk some more you retard.
>>698586686fpbp
>>698592886and it's still better than the fan one
>>698592807is that a flowchart?! jesus christ you were right the whole time!
>VNS WASTE MY FUCKING PRECIOUS TIME I CAN'T POSSIBLY SPEND MY DAYS AWAY READING WORTHLESS WALLS OF POINTLESS TEXT>sent on 4channel dot org forward slash vee
>>698593010prism illya shitters have no room to talk
>>698592732and i'd read it a thousand times over your fucking dick worms>>698592616dies irae and midmasa are the ultimate pleb filters doe?
>>698586686Oops, wrong image.
>>698592851I dropped S;G after 5 hours of reading the MC act like a retard. I had no problem finishing FSN either.
I'm playing it right now and I've been enjoying it. Though I liked the Fate route, I'm liking UBW much more so far. Especially since you get most of the world building done in the Fate route so it just glosses over shit without having to re-explain everything and get to the new story. Once I'm done with F/SN I gotta read Tsuki:Remake and Mahoyo and maybe Hollow Ataraxia or wait for the remaster.
>>698593139selfown
>>698587179Sparks Liner High is the only good thing about HF
>>698593215That, Kirei, and Nine Lives Blade Works
>>698593052But prisma is a manga.
>>698593052good job speedreading my post to prove me right
>>698592945still haven't answered my question? looks you want the last reply too, can't let you have it, sorry
>>698592807>Night - My Room: Crackthe virgin hentai scene picker vs the chad crack smoker
>>698591487?
>>698593321Yeah kirei especially I'm disappointed in myself for not mentioning him
>>698593407>(3979)lol
>>698593407this has been deboonked
>>698591487I don't remember any trannies in Muramasa. I just remember extensive sword autism and evil blond chick with the goofy ass mech form
fatefags cant stop getting dunked is there anything good to come out of their shit gacha series?
>>698593434bless himfor he allowed angra mainyu to be reborn through shirou and went on to fuck his hot albino daughter
>>698593407based
>>698592807I know what I'm doing on 11th day at night
>>698593652goku button ups detected, deploying the cartel
>>698593652Illya hentai is better than any VNslop consolewars posted ITT
>>698593139in a medium full of MCs who are retarded to the core, you dropped the one where 'only pretending to be retarded' is an actual plot point
>>698593139>filtered by redditcore quirky mc
>>698593652they used the gacha money to fund Mahoyo's thousands of CGs autistic project
>>698593172Fate route is the best route. Fight me.
>>698586686SG is much worse than FSN.
>>698593619the one reading it
>>698593975fate is the most coherent and self aware one, so no matter how mid, i respect it
>>698593880Mahoyo was years before FGO
>>698588439The real story is a joke side story in the extras that unlock when you finish the game. It takes place after the other Mahoyo VNs in the timeline that will never ever come out.
OOOOOOOOOOOO YES IT FEELS SO GOOOD SAKURAAAAAA SUCK MY blood LET ME FILL YOU TO THE BRING AAAAAAAAAAA I GONNA faint from blood loss AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH
>>698592073>even weaker baitcome on>>698592505everything is of value in fate. the story is about the characters, not the shit they do. same thing with tsukihime. i don't get how people struggle with this. you're watching them do inane shit because they all have different ways of experiencing it. just because YOU don't value it doesn't mean it's of zero value. it means you just didn't pay attention to what happened.
steins gate is impossible to read unless you've never read any anime or manga and think that all the gay pop culture references are just funny nonsense dialogue
>itt: people filtered by reading
Fate got me into tofu
fate is impossible to read without falling asleep
>>698594410To be fair you have to have a very high IQ to understand Fate Stay/Night
muramasa won
>>698594464low*
>>698594410every fate fan has been filtered by reading actual books
>>698593880>put Mahoyo on ice while Nasu writes TsukiRe and FGO>the guy you count on to script the animations and fights just leaves Type-Moon because he isn't doing anything>FGO comes out is a massive success>everything is put on ice indefinitely because Nasu and Takeuchi are focused on FGO and are getting far more money to work on FGO than anything else>leave TsukiRe is in the hands of BLACK who helped make the Mahoyo animations and is the only person at Type-Moon that can do them>BLACK also has to draw for FGO every few months
>>698594341How do people get filtered by the otaku culture references in S;G this hard? It's part of the charm.
So how many of these vn's mentioned in this thread are considered kamige in Japan?
>no you don't get it can't waste my time reading worthless shit... Ooohh is that a twitter screencap thread?
Speaking of fate how good is the dlc content in F/SR? Like its not that much but in my current situation this time of year spending the extra on dlc stuff is like weeks groceries.
>>698594759muaramasa for surefsn has been ridiculed as fake kamige for a while now
>>698594759VNs that are considered kamige stop being kamige after they are translated in english.
>>698594759Muramasa, Muv-Luv Alternative
>Extreme JP-KINO causing ironic weebs and westoids to weepMany such cases
>>698594849fsn was a kamige in 2004, and same goes for tsukihime in 2000then mla came and mogged everyone
>>698594759 VNs are outdated boomer pigslop in Japan. Western Otaku only pretend to like VNs to larp as balding oldfags
>>698594849nasu will never be able to write kamige
>>698594989tsukire part 2, trust the plan
>>698595064i fully expect nasu to fuck it up completely by cutting down on the psychological horror elements and focus on fight scenes or some shit
>kamigeare VNs games though
>>698595353Baldr Sky has pretty good mecha gameplay especially in later routes and is considered kamige.
>>698594759FGO
Illya.Nothing else matters.
>>698594765>BUT what about that other thing?? why are you criticizing my favorite thing? you must be reading that other thing then!
>>698595643>Illya route never
>>698586686sg is mid
>>698595726you would just have scrolled by that post without getting defensive if it wasn't describing your exact archetype
Lostbelt Britain…..Home…
>>698596871oh hey, there's nothing in waleslol
>>698586324Almost all VNs are slow anon.
>>698590038Shirou vs. Gilgamesh is probably the only Shirou fight that isn't a big asspull ironically.
>>698586686>F/SN continuously discussed and appreciated for 20 years>Shit;Gay cries and begs in every Fate thread for attentionSad!
>>698598669isn't that the one where archer gets revived and saves the day?
>>698598924almost like 100iq slop attract more people than 115iq slop
>>698598926Oh yeah. I forgot about that. My cope is that happens after the fight was already resolved. Gilgamesh was going to die anyway, Archer just prevent Shirou from getting dragged down with him.
>>698599235dunno, i think fate's one was less offensive since the sword/sheathe and shirou projecting excalibur was foreshadowed since the very first scene
>>698586324I love Fate, prequels/side stuff included.
>>698600674how
>>698586324hahaha I'm genuinely glad that a new generation gets to experience this
>>698593215>Sparks Liner High is the only good thing about HFMy favorite part of HFs is the progression of Shirou slowing losing his marbles more and more. The scenes where he's doing something and blanks out and finds out its been hours are great, they have such a creepy tone
>>698601243now i understand why typemoon didn't bother localizing this for so long....
>>698596871Is Giant Hole a real place?
>>698601430A lot of people don't like Sakura, but to me the appeal of their relationship is Shirou applying his total selfless unflinching devotion to her in the same way that he does for Saber in Fate or to his "ideals" in UBW. Sacrificing himself to the point that he's barely human by the end is the fascinating part, I don't really care to judge if she "deserves" it or not, all that matters is that Shirou does.
>slop route>unlimited cope route>heaven's simp route
>>698602178All kino
>>698598924>quantity vs quality I know which one I prefer.
>>698598924I love Illya!
>>698586324If you wanted good writing you wouldn't be reading a VN. VNs, LNs and webnovels are the potboilers of Japanese publishing. There's no fucking standards for prose, editors barely give a shit beyond it being able to read by the functionally literate.
>>698601507yes, if you open the image you can see the Giant Hole in front of Camelot
>>698603934Retarded EOP opinion, Nasu has great prose. Not his problem that in the 20 years of western Fate fandom's existence they haven't been able to come up with a good translation for any of his titles.
>>698586686you've angered every single contrarian zoomer on the planetthe humor in S;G is lost on them.
>>698602178dick worms route
>>698603797>quantity vs qualityThe final cope of someone who knows they don't have either
>>698592683>got banned for thisfatefags are such lame bitter trannies
>>698589204Sadly not as much as Tsukihime.
>>698603934>If you wanted good writing you wouldn't be reading a VN.
>>698604397fatefags are crybabies
>>698603934
>>698604161>Nasu has great proseMeanwhile, the prose:
>>698604545that's not nasu's prose tho
>>698604545I knew this was coming lmao. I'm surprised you have the gall to speak about prose in English when you can't read this language as indicated by the fact that you somehow missed my post was about Nasu's prose in Japanese. Kill yourself.
>>698604545mollusk bros…
>>698604508they must be upset that the only active thread they had in weeks got derailed by much better vns>>698604605malding fatetranny
>>698604525i will never know japanese
>>698604545What is this? Bait for ants?
>>698604890You can learn a good half of these as part of your usual studies. A portion of the remaining words contains fairly common kanji so there should be no problem interpreting them. There are a few words here that will be challenging to find "naturally", whatever that means, but also, it's a Nitroplus work.It's not like the native Jap readers knew all the Chinese bullshit that Butcher was dumping on them in Kikokugai.
What are the best visual novels? I have never played any.
>>698605053vocaroo
>>698605056unironically steins;gate
>>698605102You want me to vocaroo you words that you can find for yourself in a fully voiced videogame to prove that humans are indeed capable of learning words? You can mine a good half of the characters if not words outright in fucking Shin Megami Tensei. Just read eroge retard. As for the second half, stop reading eroge retard and open an actual book.
>>698605321concession accepted
>>698605056midmasa, dyes iyay and subahibi
>>698605056start from otogirisou and work your way up from there
>>698605383Fuck off back to djt and take your gay retarded djtisms along with you.You're right. It's impossible to learn Japanese. Not when you're rewatching K-On for the 27th time thinking that it's going to help you with literally anything. Never read actual media, definitely don't interact with Japanese culture, spend your late 20s thinking why you're such a fuck up that you can't even learn two-character compounds, and definitely don't attempt to improve.
>>698605560didn't read since i already accepted your concession. unless you have a vocaroo you can stfu
No sex no buy, I'll stick to the original thanks
>>698605056Play Katawa Shoujo, it's free
Not F/SN, but Nasu is not a good writer.
>>698605736nta but i'd rather read ddlc/slay the prince/coffin incest rather than shitawa midjo
>>698605794What am I supposed to be getting mad at here
>>698605794i killu myselfy desu… no kitty harmud
>>698605056
>>698586324>hates the cooking kinoThe spinoff that is solely about Emiya cooking for the cast is inarguably the best piece of fate media ever creating. Fuck off with the dumb fuck shounen battle garbage for underage retards.
>>698605056Higurashi
>>698586686That isn't a fair comparisonFart/Shart Night is a gacha ad (which is not even as popular as the korean gacha and the horse gacha)Steins; Kino, on the other hand, is the best VN from the sciADV series which is still on going
>>698606034THERE NO WAR IN THE SPIN OFF, stop defending dogshit writing
>>698605931Why would you not pick the lion
>>698606115>shitAIDS seriessteins;gate is the only thing worth touching out of all those
>>698606134Lions taste like asshole, you'll puke your guts out and then die from dehydration
>>698606116No one gives a fuck. Seiba eating delicious hambaga steaku is more important and entertaining.
>>698605056The house in Fata Morgana
>>698606134I don't know anon, I can't determine the purpose of the question or the context it was asked in from your screenshotIf I wrote off every game with a hamfisted analogy I'd be losing 50% of Japan's media output from people misapplying Schrodinger's Cat alone
>>698606404>I'd be losing 50% of Japan's media output from people misapplying Schrodinger's Cat aloneLiterally every single VN written by Kotaro Uchikoshi somehow manages to shoehorn a wall of text about Schrodinger's Cat somehow.
>>698606253Anon you're only asked to shoot one of the two, no one said anything about eating them
>>698606593>the starvation bit in the dialogue is just pointless fluff
>>698606827Even if it's not, why would you not shoot the creature that can and certainly will maul you to death if you pick the kitten
>>698605056Katawa Shoujo
>>698586324Artoria or Altria? patch for the H scenes?
>>698609149>Artoria or Altria?irrelevant, it appears literally 1 name in the whole game, you can just ignore the misspelling>patch for the H scenes?why would you do that
>>698609296Fate is inherently a series about fucking your classmate or your waifu magical familiar. That's the best and most important part.
>>698609485no it's not, fate is about cooking
>>698591441truth nuke
>>698609640Yeah, you're right.
>>698586892When I got to that part, I stopped reading it and told myself I'd pick it up later. I think that was over 10 years ago.
>>698603797how have remakes and final versions does sg have again
Kikogugai or SnU?
>>698587762Heaven's feel has the highest highs of the VN for sure.
>>698605056they are all shit unless you were 20yo in the early 2010sit was just a unique piece of culture, in a time long gone. you had to be there, and also to be at a specific point in your life. there used to be daily discussions, monthly vn adaptations, now its all gone and replaced by mobile, mobile games are to 20-something yo's the same as VNs in early 2010s were to 20yos back then.if there are any VNs around in 2024 its because of franchises that refuse to die or nostalgia.
>>698612239This is the bitter truth
>>698605056>>698612239this, only people into VNs right now are trannies or losers.
>>698612239This is the exact age I was in the 2010's reading all that kino but there's nothing that says zoomers can't go back and read them too and get the same experiences.
>>698612239this is cope, every year there's at least 1 new kamige if you aren't an eop
I will never not be mad about how ufotable fucked up the third movie. Yeah they fucked up a lot of other shit but that was definitely the worst.
>>698612936this but 2024 unironically had literally 0 kamige
>>698612612>cries about losers >on the site for autistic wizards The fringe minority of normalfags mouthing off will always be funny
>>698613015cope
>>698605056Demonbane without a shred of irony
>>698613157>(65)>(23)>(15)you already got intellectually dismantled by me earlier in the thread fuck off
>>698612985fate/zero batman prop room was one of the worst but still not as bad as nine bullet revolver and the final kirei fight in heaven's feelufotable is so good at times but then they completely shit the bed at key moments
>>698613418wait a couple of years until they reach 1k vote and then start coping about 2026 having no kamige
>>698590667Not saying the VN is good (lol, lmao even) but the anime are very bad adaptations, especially so with the Ufotable ones.
The most boring scene in the entire game is the one where Saber and Assassin are fighting in Fate.
>>698612239>Nekopara had a perfect ending with Vol. 3>Sayori and everyone at NEKO WORKs refuse to let it die>Extra was mediocre>Vol. 4 was utter garbage>Vol. 5 / After has been in development hell for god only knows how long>Will probably be shit tooC'est la vie.
>>698616287>VNS ARE DEAD>thinks nekopara is peakbro....
>>698615578that fight reeks of filler with stairs being the deciding factor. especially compared to the rider fight on the side of a skyscraper.
>>698616415It's my personal favorite slice of life series. Always has been, always will be. Should've ended a while ago, that's all I'm saying.
>>698593084If I had a dollar for every japanese piece of media that has those damn red armbands I'd be the richest man in the world
why did it take nasu so long to okay a official release?
>>698586324
>>698617175>Every single Persona game
>>698617175SO TRUE
>>698586686this but kinomasafsn isn't bad but just average
>>698616498>slice of lifeits porn my dude
>>698617890There is an entire fucking slice of life story, the porn is extra. Good lord I hate people like you.
>>698616498>It's my personal favorite slice of life seriesthis is the kind of people saying s;g is mid, LMAO
>>698618030no, its just backstory for the pornits literally just porn
>>698586324Have you tried playing this game while listening to podcast in the background and playing subway surfer on your phone at the same time?
So is Muramasa the new Dies Irae where people claim it's the true usurper of Fate for a while before it disappears back into obscurity? What compels people to do this?
>>698586986Sleep deprivation has never been a factor for loss in Fate. Ever.
>>698618936No it needs to try and fail to launch its own gacha to join the hall of Fate killers
>>698586324You get what you fucking deserve for reading/playing/watching anything with the cancer known as (((bisexual))) representation. Avoid any and all games featuring that garbage.
>>698620439Girls' Frontline is in the VA-11 Hall-A universe?
>>698620439Guys this is ironic post right?
I just like artoria for goodness' sake.
>>698620724Girls' Frontline is there because it had a crossover with VA-11 Hall-A in a more meaningful capacity than mere clothing. On its own, it has nothing as far as I know, thus it qualifies, but only because of its crossover with VA-11 Hall-A.
>>698620740forced schizophrenia
>>698586721>Let's do this, Master Chef. Do you have enough flour in stock?
>>698587912Many, many people who enjoy visual novels think Fate is too much of a slog.
>>698586686S;G is even fucking slower.It's like recommending a LotR extended edition marathon to someone who wants a quick action flick.
>>698588221Agreed.
>>698606134because it can't be helped
Which of the 4 main heroines (Saber, Rin, Sakura, Illya) would be the most stable marriage for Shirou after the war ends?
>>698621517Saber.He just has to keep feeding her and she will never leave.
>>698621517Illya's the worst choice since she's screwed due to circumstances.Saber is only useful for sex and feeding, unless she gets a job in Japan.Sakura and Rin are the better since they're basically built to be bear children, especially the used up one.
>>698620745
Play a real man's VN instead.Captcha: W4AR
>>698621517Saber can't stick around after the war, though if Shirou persists on his dream without turning rotten like Archer, he'll be able to meet her again. Rin and Sakura are the best choices. I think the most interesting end is Rin. If Shirou ends up with Sakura, all that awaits him is a mundane life of peace. I mean, yeah, peace is what all true warriors strive for and all that, but if I really believed that I wouldn't be reading chuuni VNs with laser swords and gay bulges now would I?
>start taking notes when reading before FSN so I have a chance of remembering stuff>go back and read some of them now that I'm close to finishing HF>>Fate route day 7>>oh boy here we go, another magic system lore dump...I'm fucking tired, I'm going to bedkek. I still think the pacing is fine overall, but the Fate route definitely doesn't make for the smoothest introduction. I paused HF to go back and re-read it and it's much easier the second time around
>>698621792>thinking man's fetish: the VN
>>698621792what is it
>>698615578>The archetypal European knight vs the legendary samurai with an "undefeatable" techniqueI get what you mean but this is the most fundamentally Nasu shit everIf nothing else, it sets the baseline for every other fight to improve on and they don't waste any time rehashing it in UBW or HF
>>698622925based
>>698622028The worst thing about these routes is that the split between them happens too early, so you have to see Shirou go >hmm and what is this... Holy Grail War you keep talking about?very time you start one, basically the first day of UBW and HF is just a lore dump of what you already know because Shirou doesn't know these things yet.
>>698623265>someone made a meme for my based nazi vampire demon edgelord VNthat VN was so fuckin kinothere are better onesbut it's pure power fantasy that revels in the edge and I fuckin love itchildhood friend best girl though
>>698623378>childhood friend best girl thoughJust thought about it and her route is such a wet fart compared to othersWhen the colors come out shit really starts to pick up
>>698586686Steins;Gate is dogshit dude.
>>698613157>MGQ Paradox is a VN???
>>698593084Based
>>698623273UBW has you fight Berserker with Archer immediately after the route split on Night 3HF has the Day 4 exposition play out differently because you don't ally with Tohsaka so you get Saber's perspective on things, and that night you take action against ShinjiPeople exaggerate how much exposition and downtime there is, especially in Heaven's Feel. You would think the last two days are the whole route, which in a way is understandable because that's the climax of the whole VN and blows your fucking dick off, but so much shit happens so fast in Heaven's Feel that I think people just forget about the earlier parts. UBW builds up Caster for like a week and you don't get to Archer betraying you until like Day 12, four or five days into Heaven's Feel half the Servants are fucking dead including Saber and the whole story is completely off the rails before you're even halfway done.
>>698586324Isn't it sad how the only doujins saber and the other two can get these days is ntr shit with Shinji
>UBW got a movie and a series>HF got three moviesWhen is the Fate route going to get a better adaptation than the shitty Deen show?You'd think the main route with the Saberface of the whole franchise would deserve something better.
Play heaven burns red.
>>698586324>Archer betrays the party >Shirou refuses help from lancer >Lancer starts fighting archer >Rin gets raped by shinjiWhat was archers plan here
man I despise people who REEEEEEEEso fucking much
>>698625372Only bisluts like bisluts.
>>698625321Fuck you Deen stay night is kinoZero is overrated dogshit
>>698625197Yeah, but then nothing happens for like three days until Illya's mansion and then nothing happens for like four days until the finale. HF's pacing is very start-stop, from what I remember.
>>698625405>bro I am SO lesbian lmaoNever let men write yuri
>>698625576Urobuchi wrote Madoka, and you dykes love that shite.
>>698625469>Deen stay night isFucking slop. Have some self respect.
>>698625682>slopKeep DEEN's name out of your zoomer mouthhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTijtqF89Jc
>>698592307TsukiR SOL was disappointing desu, there are a handful of good scenes I actually like (mostly from Arihiko, Mario and Ciel) but it felt like a huge step down from the original and mahoyo. I really hope Nasu steps up his game for Red Garden.
>>698590667>congrats vn fags. you are killing the series.your gacha shit is a visual novel with rock paper scissors attached
>>698586324stop crying over your censored porn game
>>698620740What makes you think that?
>>698586324>2024>people still complaining about the kitchen/cooking scenes in Fate/Stay NightI'll take this over any FGO thread though.
>>698587212>start it>1 hour of following a character's morning routine to an autistic degree
>>698591475>>698591532>>698591630>>698591678>>698591758Is Steins Gate really that good? I mean, better than Muv Luv good? Because MLA is the peak of humanity's science fiction writing.
>>698626778With that pacing? Yes easily better than Muv Luv.
>>698586324i wish you just played as rin the whole time and it was an otome game about magecraft.
>>698626867>pacingOver rated. Meanwhile, Muv Luv is like.>here, let's do a 1 hour long briefing scene where we infodump a bunch of information onto the player while epic music plays>we're only going to interrupt it with Takeru's monologue over his motivations and fears one, maybe twiceAnd yet, it's so fucking good.
>>698627128>all this elaborate lore sold to greedy gacha devs only for every attempt to crash and burnWhat a waste of a universe. Rest in peace, Muv-Luv.
mla is the most overrated slop in the history of videogames and the fact that garbage is somehow venerated made me entirely disregard the opinion of vnfags for good
>>698627539At least it's been overtaken from the top spot now.
now that the dust has settled, what are the top 3 visual novels of all time?
>>698627668>generic time travel reddit shit>poo>mexican soapmuh hecking kamige!!!!
>>698627440>sold to greedy gacha devsDid I miss something?
>>698627668Is S;G being the top VN supposed to be an improvement? That's more like a downgrade.
>>698627868There was this Muv-Luv gacha called Dimensions or some shit, basically the creator of Muv-Luv (Yoshimune Kouki) said in his discord that the fate of the franchise relied on this gacha's success.It was launched and immediately shut down a couple days after because it was a disaster: apart from obvious UI mistakes\misspellings, subpar combat and only few voiced characters, there was a game-breaking bug that allowed players to get more rolls.So it went into an eternal maintenance and then shut down for a year or two. It was launched again this year, but they pulled the plug soon after. It's over.
>>698628117Sounds like something to be glad for. Getting a taste of the gacha koolaid was the single worst thiing to happen to Fate, I don't want the same to happen to Muv Luv. The series is unironically better dead than turning into gacha.
>>698588439its like 5 minutes long you might as well finish it
>>698628217>>698628117they just crowd funded a turn based tactics game with kouki writing
>>698628419That's great and all but like, where's my Muv Luv Alternative sequel? Those unsightly things still need to be cleansed from Earth and the Solar System.
>>698626778well the issue with fate is every adaptation is dogshit. The steins gate anime is considered one of the better vn adaptations, if you're on the fence just go watch that
>>698628510it literally is (the build up to it)
>>698628743>>698628419I checked /m/'s Muv Luv general and it seems that, at this very instant, the game is 63% funded. Did it fail to reach 100% in time?
>>698628860I honestly haven't been paying attention. seems they're going to push it out anyway.
>>698629372Muv Luv was supposed to be a big deal. They did so many successful crowdfunds but then wasted so much of the cash on flops, like the gacha and the project mikhail thing that nobody liked. And more recently, the KimiNozo translation that wasn't just censored, it had entire routes and plotlines removed because they were "problematic". Hard to believe this is the company that had the lewd skintight suits in the original release.Now they can't even fund a proper Muv Luv game because they burned away so much of their good will. Sad, really.They should just make VNs again. Nice, cheap and easy, and nobody will complain.
>>698629624>this is the company thatliterally isn't
>>698587912I like reading VNs and even I burned out when reading Fate. I still haven't read Heaven's Feel to this day
>>698586324>filtered by cooking
>>698586686Kill yourself Steinstranny
>>698587212Fate really takes a certain mindset going into it.
>>698586686Holy fucking BASED
Have you ever seen the shows and wondered what's with the pacing at timesThe VN is a hundred times worseI dropped it in the rider building fight and never looked back
>>698605056Steins;Gate easily clears with the best story, pacing, characters and visual designs. Also has a great soundtrack.
>>698586324better yet there is a spin off called Today's Menu for the Emiya Family, now you can have the entire series of the kitchen!
>>698632468Kurisu is just too powerful.
>>698586324>zoomer that loves modern buzzwords can't stand a cornerstone of early internet cultureI love that you feel this way. Makes me feel good there is an eternal air-gap between the zoomer faggots that enjoy modern culture and the culture I grew up with.
>>698633835>>zoomer that loves modern buzzwords really makes you think
>>698589010Just send the d-mail bro.
>>698586686Interesting how many detractors S;G seems to have despite the lack of any critique about it ever actually coming up.
>>698589482I am erect.
>>698634748it's painfully mediocreannoying stock reddit charactersasspull endingawful "romance"entry level garbageit's the fma of anime
>>698586686based
>Still no Illya routeNot interested
>>698634748Seething retards can't read, simple as.
>>698586324Unironically filtered by your IQ, the cooking scenes are integral to the plot.
Fate stay night defeated nanohaYuri lost
>>698635290>it's the fma of animeSo it's good.
>>698588439>VN orginally written in the late 90s and released in the late 2000s>despite that it feels like a modern Marvel slop because the MC is a Mary Sue and the only male primary character is described as a dumbass at nearly every opportunity this is one of the worst VNs I've ever read, nobody would care if it weren't for the fact that Nasu wrote it
>>698640001Yeah unfortunately it's a case of "only popular because it's popular"
>>698623273the whole game should've been 1 route
>>698640001it's a product of its time
What is it about steins gate fans and being the niggers of VN discussions?
>>698645427fsn lost
>>698634748Massive trvthnvkeThey aren't even serious, it's just console war faggotry
>>698645427Pot calling the kettle a nigger
>>698646746Now I'm curious, what VN do you think I'm a fan of? Considering that it's rarely one that shows up around here I would be fairly surprised if you got it right. Don't dodge, just take a guess. Cmon.
>>698590018I think the movies general miss a lot of scenes for that I believe were important for building up emotional investment in character relationships and kind of just assumes you know the plot of HF already in that regard. If you know the plot of HF and just want to see select cool action moments from the story animated well, I'd recommend it.
why the FUCK the literaly best girl has no route, let alone being the mc bowl winner in the true ending? fuck nasu
>>698604161Ur falling for memes lol its seriously overrated by the nerds same shit with scaji ou jackson and all the rest maybe other than romeo>haven't been able to come up with a good translation for any of his titlesthe new ones are ok >>698604605Cmon dude that is some bad b8 dont fall for that>>698612239Theres some good ones that come out sometimes but yea for the most part japan moved on to vtubers and gacha its kind of gay but thats how it is>>698623056dies irae>>698633835buzzword is a buzzword so is zoomer
>>698586686FPBP
>>698628634>the issue with fate is the anime is bad>discussing the VNare you retarded?
>>698640001This isn't like Marvel slop where you'll see people telling the Hulk to stand down because She-Hulk is in the room.Unlike Shirou who is just a weak mage who gets stronger over his shounen arc, Soujuurou is literally a clueless hick thrust into a world of magic he has no business being in on top of a modern world he doesn't understand.Aoko, Alice, and the reader constantly underestimating him is what is supposed to make it feel good when he shows how surprisingly capable he is at helping them in their times of need despite him being a clueless outsider to their world.Aoko never felt the need to ask about his life on the mountain, the mystery box explaining his skills in a crisis, until the very end after saving her and Alice's asses one last time.
>>698586324what even the remaster about?
>>698586324I don't get why some Fatefags try so hard to make everyone take their shit seriously. Stay Night is just a crappy shonen loaded with tons of exposition and convoluted terminology that makes people think it is smart. It tries to be this serious battle royale, but it fails because of the juvenile tone, awful writing (gae bolg's sole existance and the way Nasu just kind of writes himself into a corner the moment its power is explained should tell you everything about him as a writer, all this reality rewriting bullshit is the equivalent of two kids playing yugioh and debating about how their cards instantly win the game or negate each other) and the fact that for like 60% of the time, the main characters are just cooking and fucking around (both figuratively and literally). Zero tries even harder to be taken seriously, but all it does is taking the more boring, pretentious and edgy aspects of SN and cranking them up to 11. The most honest fatefags are the coomers who only care about reading doujins and grinding their favorite waifus and traps in grand order
>>698654271nobody takes it seriously, but it's mid even by today's shounen standards
>>698586324lmao
