It's bloated and we need a redo
I think it's still an amazing game and not bloated to a point where it's terrible, but agreed.
>>719357883>It's bloatedwith bots
old school old school no changes. 1 acc per ipthere i saved runescape
I came to realize even if it started again I don't actually want to play Runescape. Don't much like reminiscing or talking about it either, maybe because i was bad at the game & everyone else excelled at bosses.The quests / lore was the only redeeming quality to me personally. I hear these days the bots can do boss encounters flawlessly get 10,000 + kill counts & nothing is done about it.There's been tons of implementations & power creep making oldschool grinding methods redundant. It's certainly not the 07 me and the lads would compare stats over in class. We didn't even know about clue scrolls because nobody had membership
GE ruined everything. If youre too ADHD riddled to make an attempt to trade for something instead of using an auction house this isnt the game for you. Fuck off and play Wow or FF14 instead
>>719358864It was a welcome change>Spamming the login button on full world 1 & 2>People undercutting right next to eachother>Pay for dragon bones, get big bones scam>Looking for Guthix page 1, they only have page 2 / 3 / 4>Slow ass miscommunication on established asking price>That person is already in a trade>Having to sort through a wall of text to find the needle in a haystack item you're looking forThe Grand Exchange did away with all that convoluted time-consuming nonsense
>>719359518>>People undercutting right next to eachotherthere are literally merch clans>>Pay for dragon bones, get big bones scamsorry youre too stupid to read the trade window>>Looking for Guthix page 1, they only have page 2 / 3 / 4rare things are...LE RARE???????>>Slow ass miscommunication on established asking priceoh no, bartering, how awful>>That person is already in a tradeso you cant wait 5 seconds?>>Having to sort through a wall of text to find the needle in a haystack item you're looking forcrazy how youre locked in to only trade in one area and cant walk somewhere elseoh wait, you can
>>719358864>GE ruinedopinion discarded
>>719359717excellent nonargument
>>719358864ironmeme mode ruined the game more than the ge ever did
Forcing people to actually talk and take time to trade was a filterGE completely did away with patience which means that people chased highs and focused on raising prices of things and making moneyattracted a wider audienceand now you have jews in charge because patience isn't required
>>719359758brown venezuelan hands typed this
>>719359518everything you posted is a positive and basically added value to the traded itemsGE removes the value making it simply a function of time to grind
>>719358864What ruined it for me was gravestones, RuneScape was special to me in that when someone died, usually because they were afk, other players could loot their stuff. It meant I paid attention, if only because someone who wasn't paying attention might die. Even cutting trees or fishing carried some level or risk. Now the game is either completely mindless or sweating about mechanics that were never meant to be fundamental to gameplay. I can't ever get into prayer flicking and tick manipulation.
>>719359858nah, once they started designing everything around making it convenient for irons they invalidated large swathes of the game as a consequence only troons play and defend ironshit
>>719358864stay mad
>>719360085stay zoomer
>>719360023can you provide any examples that arent "i suffered in the past so everyone else should too"?
>>719360263can you provide any examples of how it was suffering?
Please for the love of god don't play this game it will ruin your life, there are better games out there that are worth your time
>>719357883Play Ironman and bloat doesn't exist since you have to engage with all content.
>>719359886>That one poisoned guy who would run to the banker in a panic with great gear on Those fuckers were always like sub 8 HP but never died, such a tease
>>719360309there's no need to dodge like that sis
>>719360492so why are you?
Some guy i knews brother owned a party hat in original RS, apparently those things are like $20,000+ now but i don't know who'd buy 'em.
>>719358864Agreed.>>719359886Agreed.
>>719358864>>719359518>>719359717The GE helps botters, so they won't ever remove GE.
>>719360423My brother got a yellow party hat when a level 3 died while cutting magic trees. I got a Santa hat when a low level doing the The Fremennik Trials quest lagged out and got eaten by the wolf on the path back to Seers' village. I remember messaging the guy and saying I grabbed his stuff, and he could have everything back besides the hat. Good times.
>>719360523alright we can try again next thread when you're a bit older
>>719360998I accept your concession
>>719360908Literally no one benefits more from having to stand around all day selling shit than bots.
>>719358745this honestly how about instead of fisting more shit into the game go back and rework old skills or content that already exists ?? i havent seen a single person excited for sailing as a skill its going to be trash and then theyll start arbitrarily forcing sailing skill requirements in quests
>>719361317>go back and rework old skills or content that already existsThey've done both of these things multiple times
>>719358864The game would lag to the point of disconnect whenever you got close to these selling spots, like in Fally park or West Varrock Bank of people spamming, cyan:wave2: BUYING RAW LOBSTERSand having to struggle just to get their attention to buy it and have them jack the price up. The only people who say the GE is bad are either people who never engaged with trading to begin with or "merchants" who spent hours jewing it up against kids. A lot of these idiots also forget that merching clans still existed for years after the G.E. the reason it died was because people stopped dealing with greedy niggers or attempting scammers
>>719361513>and having to struggle just to get their attention to buy it and have them jack the price up.why is it that every GE fanboy is too retarded to try buying anywhere but World 2 fally or west varrock?
>>719361513You could always just post on the forums back then
> the reason [GE clans] diedOH WOW
>>719361381and they still arent done so what gives?
>>719357883it's got a redo https://github.com/LostCityRS/Server
>>719361582because there's a good chance that the items you're looking for either aren't on your world or the price is too far from what you want>just haggle broWe did, and you (((people))) would ignore us, so we took our business elsewhere.>>719361590we did, but that's barely any different from just posting it in G.E to get what you need in a timely manner
>>719361815>because there's a good chance that the items you're looking for either aren't on your world or the price is too far from what you wantOH NO, HOW COULD THIS RARE ITEM BE HARD TO OBTAIN? WHY CANT I HAVE IT IMMEDIATELY?????>so we took our business elsewhere.apparently not, because you ALWAYS bitch about w2 fally or west varrock spam
>>719361884you're an actual faggot who has to exaggerate to try and "disprove" me. You know I'm right, sweetie*kisses*
>>719357883So is the roach really the reason the game is getting ddos?
>>719362034>using logic is exaggerating
I got membership for the first time 3 weeks ago, i had great fun.Numbers go up weeeeee.
>>719361774its a cool project but realistically runescapes code is just too fucking jank, and it doesn't help that these guys are PURPOSEFULLY making it 1:1 as janky as it was originally coded for "authenticity" purposes.if the guys behind it were less autistic, it mightve had a real chance.
>>719362110I never said a rare item, I never said I wanted it immediately. And you seem to missed the remark of how much (You) would ask for knowing it wasn't worth the price. I don't want it immediately, and i don't want it in an hour after "haggling", I'd prefer somewhere in between. I know nuance scares you, but try to think logically next time.Don't respond to me ever again.
>>719362228>I don't want it immediatelythen why are you attempting to trade for it? your own logic doesnt even make sense
>>719362175and also i did play it for a few weeks. main issues is it takes too long to level stats and theres not enough incentive to go to the wilderness.
>>719357883No one really agrees with that, that's why OSRS almost died a few months after launch. You'd play it for a few months then quit.
- Remove iron-meme- Remove GE- Re-introduce trading post- Revert all content back to 2007 (where end-game is GWD)- Ban runelite and any 3rd party clients
>>719362293do you know what immediately means??? you do realize that the concept of a "reasonable" amount of time exists, yeah? that most people are fine to wait 5 minutes for something, but don't like to wait an hour?
notice how it's thirdies who hate GE?
>>719362580>that most people are fine to wait 5 minutes for somethingnot you apparently>but don't like to wait an hour?never happens. try looking for other sellers instead of standing in one place
>>719362649
>>719362649i suppose it makes sense. most of these guys probably have to haggle for food irl; it's only natural that they'd want what they're used to
>>719362293>If not instant, why trade?is like saying if you won’t pay rush shipping you should handcraft the item yourself. There’s a lot of time between prime same day and do it from scratchG.E fills that gap
>>719362649>everyone shit on bank-standing 99s since the very beginning>introduce a place to accelerate bank-standing 99s
>>719362567Ten people will be very excited to play this
GE is the equivalent of normies who have to pay indians and chinks to deliver food to their door because they are too retarded to boil water and cook their own meals.
>>719362662>looking for other sellersRight... like the Grand Exchange. Thanks for agreeing with us. :)
>>719362787i'd rather have those 10 than the 100000 bots and 20k sweat-scapers who shit and piss if they can't swap a left-click option
>>719362841no, like other players in the game. Did you know that the player character is able to MOVE instead of standing in front of a bank all day?
Nobody would stand around and sell stuff if the GE didn't exist, people would use trading discord servers.
>>719357883You can just ignore the content you don't want to do
I would play so fucking hard if they restarted again from a similar point in time as the initial restart.
>>719362743>why would I want to level up a crafting skill when I could just buy the material myself? Why interact with the game at all when I can just powerlevel to 99 from the GE?
>>719362649they can't scam with GEthey can't barter with GEthey don't value their time
>>719362909Cool, go to a private server and have at it, no one's stopping you.
>>719362939>>719362936
>>719362918Yes, just like I'm able to play the game and let my trade in G.E sit until someone sells/buys it. I'm so glad you're understanding me now. :)
>>719362970>they can't scam with GEjust how stupid are you?
>>719362968I'm not talking about in-game crafting skill, I was talking about IRL. Even then, you're still getting caught up on immediate, never ever, and reasonable time.
I think they should cut out bloat like GWD, KBD and KQ, less stuff like that and more good boss encounters like Doom.
>>719362923huge trvth nvke. anti-ge would be so much worse for this very reason – you would functionally have to chose between this or bots in fally
>>719362970>>they can't scam with GEGE actually scaled up scamming.trapping clueless retards in pyramid scheme rug-pulling
>>719362995Im glad youre not even trying to defend your point anymore because you know you have no argument :)
>>719362980It's more than everyone will be starting again and populating the same areas and talking and shit. The experience at the start of the reset was really fun. It's simply not how the game is now. Far more social, world feels far more alive.
>>719358864If GE didn't exist, then someone would simply start a third-party website or discord full of GE-adjacent plugins or something similar. Hell, i'd do it myself just to make you commit suicide.
>>719362980how do you ignore content that lets people easily afk to 99 and easily cheese achievement capes?
>>719363029in practice you can only really engage in ge-related scams through market manipulation, which requires a lot of capital (which thirdies lack, of course). obviously there are many other scamming avenues but "doubling money", swapping bones, unid herb fuckery etc. are dead in the water
>>719363170they are actively making tons more social content dude
>>719363194Doesn't World of Warcraft have that? I know Warframe has it.
>>719363194>then someone would simply start a third-party website or discord full of GE-adjacent plugins or something similarhmmm, you mean like the trading post that failed within 2 weeks because people were too lazy to use it?
>>719360023don't forget all the stealth changes they made for content creators too.
>>719363217By not doing it?
>>719363220>other scamming avenues but "doubling money", swapping bones, unid herb fuckery etc. are dead in the waterthere are literally bots spamming that in the grass outside the GE every single minute of every hour of every day
>>719363230I'm more interested in the old (and early) content. Reliving my childhood and all that.
>>719363279But it's actively ruining the game and community around me? How can i ignore that?You're just a few steps away from telling me to treat it like a single-player game
>>719363232WoW has auction houses and not only that but it has addons that streamline certain market information in real time
>>719361815>we did, but that's barely any different from just posting it in G.E to get what you need in a timely mannerPosting on the forums was absolutely different. Would you accept using the forums now as a substitute for the GE? And don't lie.
>>719363290really? in my defense, i have completely tuned out any and all messages at the ge. do people really fall for doubling money in current year?
>>719363217Where's this easy afk to 99 content?
>>719363234>People would be too lazy to use a discord for trading>But not too lazy to manually scour through ingame trades just to haggle with some scamming retard after an hour, trustKek
>earned my Agility cape by running Ape Atoll for 2-3 months>someone got their agil cape by afking Priff/rooftops>they devalued my skillcape>someone got their agil cape by climbing over a wooden fence for 1exp per 3 seconds>they devalued my skillcape
>>719363463I dont think you have any idea how the trading post even worked
>>719363416Well the very first OC release was NMZ, which was free, safe AFK experience lol.but most recently memestone crab.
>>719363364>How can i ignore that?You don't do the content. You don't have to do it. You can then stop being autistic that some other guy did something different than you and continue to play the content you like
>>719363513It's effectively the same as rock crabs
>>719363516That kind of attitude doesn't fly here
>>719363516>JUST IGNORE IT>ITS FINE>STOP COMPLAININGno you retard, it's ruining the game.
>>719363217Lol no content lets you "easily afk to 99". Even the most ridiculous, bankrolled cheese on the easiest skill to level would still be approaching just under 100 hours to max
>>719357883I NEED a Runescape 4 reboot of sorts where they rework skills to make them more meaningful without all the decades of bad decisions and the baggage both OSRS and RS3 carry
>>719363513this is the worst example you could have picked. they've had rock crabs in the game since like 06, which are marginally more tedious but functionally identical. i must agree that nmz is dogshit and stupid, though
>>719363560>X exists so it's okay to have an even better version of themnot how that works
>>719357883Ok
>>719363508I don't think you understand we live in a post-discord online environment
>>719363656It's not better it's just the same
>>719363683so you dont, thanks for confirming
>>719363656>piece of content takes 100 hours to complete while afk>piece of content that lets you complete the same goal in 90 hours gets released>"AIIIIEEEEE IT'S EASYSCAPE IM GOING INSANE!!!!!"
>OSRS is older than "old school" Runescape was when OSRS started
>>719363684it's literally better>better xp/hour>even more afk>even safermemestone defenders are unreal.Let me guess HCIM with 0 boss kc? lmao
>>719363718first off i've been playing much longer than you, second off this is not an argument faggot
>>719363394If it was done properly, with filters, sorting, and so on, then absolutely. I'm not against engaging with my fellow adventurers, but there's a point where it becomes "too much", and between the two evils of before and after G.E, I'd take G.E.The merching clans and all that still existed years after G.E was released, it still had a purpose.
>>719363801I've been playing off and on since 2004. Your argument doesnt hold water because youre complaining about an issue that didnt exist because thats not how the TP even worked
>>719363772>>>>>>>>>saferbrother they have 1 attack and 1 strength. dying to a rock crab has gotta be winning-powerball-tier rng
>>719358864Trading posts would have been a good compromise
>>719363868THEN WHY IS AN EVEN BIGGER VERSION EVEN SAFER?if anything gemstone crab should have been MORE dangerous.So why is it SAFER?
>>719363772It's not better xp per hour, it has a reduced xp rate to make it equal to other crabs. You can afk it for 10 minutes, which is exactly the same time as the npc aggression timer. They're exactly the fucking same retard.
>>719359518this is the main reason I can type as fast as I do now, thanks Runescape
>>719363918they are equally safe in practice (unless you're on a pure maybe???)
>>719363852I've been playing since 2002, people DID use the trading post when it was around, it was just a shittier, less expedient GE, and so they added the GE back, you're just retarded in every way
>>719363939>It's not better xp per hour,it quite literally is retard, that's the whole point of it being in the new area
my account is older than 85% of /v/ users...........
>>719364001>it was just a shittier, less expedient GEit did exactly what you were asking it to do, I dont see why youre poo pooing it >>719363194
i like that they made each new area independent from eachother so if you want to have like a character stay at zeah or varlamore foreverthe quests too, i like that they are unique and i can ignore them
>>719364006It has a -12.5% xp modifier
>>719364091the math still works out to HIGHER NUMBERS PER HOURTHAT ALSO CAN'T BE INTERRUPTED unlike rock crabs
I'm still enjoying OSRS and gonna play some later today.I'm currently doing Tormented Demons for my slayer task.
>>719364017My original account would be around 9000 days, likely.
>>719364220Okay show your "math"
>>719364250any synapses?
Why does anyone want this shit?
>>719364374Tamingbros... we deserved better
>>719364017>20 years>but only 6 dayseh, not that impressive, jimbo
>>719363217>how do you ignore content that lets people easily afk to 99 and easily cheese achievement capes?to be honest, anyone who considers level 99 in anything an achievement is a fucking retardi really don't think it's designed to get 99 in everything, you get rewarded for doing so but the game is so over at that point that only turbo autists would bother
>>719364042I'm not poo-pooing it, you are. Even though people DID use it, but they wanted the GE, so they got the GE. People are always going to want that next level up of convenience when it comes to avoiding micromanagement, and trading post was better than no trading post, sans the fact that it was a worse GE so they just put the GE back in.
>>719364374It's cool, it'll make the world feel bigger and more connected.
>>719364352No, dry on those and claw.
>>719364374You don't understand the game will LITERALLY die if we don't spend the next 4 years developing this shit
>>719364449sad scam game
>>719364309rock crabs are 40k / hour at bestgemstone is something like 55-60k.
>>719364417>People are always going to want that next level up of conveniencethey arent people, theyre ADHD subhumans who misunderstand one of the basic elements of an MMORPG
>>719364395>tamingi feel like that would've been thralls or hunter with extra steps
>>719364467Yeah they haven't put out any updates in years because of it
>>719364374>all the cool shit gets polled>players are too fucking stupid to want anything new and/or different despite begging for more content>everything fails>poll this>its le meme and passes barelyOSRS is full of retards, bots, and third-worlders. RS3 WILL live longer than OSRS
>>719364467>You don't understand the game will LITERALLY die if we don't spend the next 4 years developing this shityou can't just keep developing the next raid over and over
>>719364473Those are just random numbers you pulled out of your ass, combat xp rates are highly dependent on your levels and gear.
>>719364545>everything fails>99% of polls pass
>>719364478Not really an argument though, you can't force people to not want things. Maybe go play an everquest private server.
>>719364545The majority of polls pass and new content gets added regularly, are you dumb?
>>719364614>>719364674all the COOL shit failsWarding was infinitely better than whatever the fuck Sailing is going to be
>hey you guys want a skill to craft your own magic armor (the one type severely lacking in the game)?>no? ok...
>>719364706Cool shit such as?
>>719364779WARDINGI JUST FUCKING SAID
>>719364837So one thing.That doesn't sound exactly like "all the cool shit" to me.
>>719364837>>719364706>>719364727kek, warding was essentially just recycling shit
>>719364706I agree, and I think it would pass if it were to be repolled.
>>719364969it was literally just a needed extension for crafting/smithing?How you could be against it is a mystery.
>>719364912I can't remember everything that failed. I remember Posion and more Wilderness bosses. Even some quests. Warding is the one that stuck to me.
>>719364403This account was one of a few I made with a friend at school who was really into PKing so we'd spend the nights hanging around in the wilderness and attacking people.I had another account but got bored with RS sometime in ~2006 and let my other friend use that account. He promptly changed the password on my and idk what he did with the account. Fuck you Michael you faggot spic....The guy that got me into RS around 2003 is dead now. Think he ended up ODing or something, idk. His last name was Junker so him ending up as a junkie is sort of ironic.
>>719365074Poison is in the game and the only wilderness boss that has failed was a retarded one which would only appear 3 times total a day across every server.
>>719365167>NOOOO I NEED TO FARM IT 24/7 SO I CAN MAKE EPIC CLICKBAIT LOOT VIDEOSgod i hate modern osrs players
>>719365074>all the cool stuff fails>can't remember it
>>719358118spbp. I just watched a video of someone doing a rough experiment and they concluded that OSRS is at least ~40% bots lmao.
>>719365054bro it failed because it looked boring as fuck, the main contention was that it wasn't even worthwhile enough to call it a skill
>>719365212Why did you respond to me saying things which I didn't say?
>>719365167They were going to add poison to f2p with the moss giant boss, which passed, but nobody wanted to give f2p access to even a small amount of p2p content so the poison part of it failed. It took years before they reconsidered letting f2p get the drop for his staff, which also failed on the first polling.
>>719365279>boring as fuckyeah, silly osrs devs for trying to put out non-boss content
>>719365119sovlI take my statement back, fren
>>719365379Damn didn't know totems are actually a boss.
>>719365259Anyone who remembers the bot nuke understand why they can never do that again.
>>719364374I'm ok with a new skill as long as they fixed other ones. There are so many that are just fucking neglected or used as an arbitrary diary milestone or one off requirement. Herblore just started ok with some of the new potions but there's so many other possibilities to make cool potion content. Firemaking, smithing, runecrafting, thieving, fishing, and fletching all need new shit and have barely been given anything
>>719365441my mistakenon-boss content OR casualizing xp grind content*
>>719365508Also sailing isn't a boss either.
>>719365379varlamore is like 3/4 skill training
>>719365548sailing is the most blatant example of the devs manipulating polls and forcing content nobody wants
>>719365508God forbid fletching be more than fucking bankstanding
>>719365508>casualizing>in a fucking cookie clickerwhat the fuck are you talking about
>>719363194
>>719365607But it's not bossing content. Sorry seems your narrative isn't working.
>>719365663>this non-argument again
>>719365259Playing a main is a fucking joke now. Base resources are so cheap that skills like herblore and fletching are actually profitable to train. Expensive skills like construction and prayer just get cheaper and cheaper too with prayer being as low as 1gp/xp pretty often. And don't even get me started on the price of gear upgrades.
>>719365259the percentage is most likely higher and im not joking eitherMost people who play stick to one account, maybe 2 at most. But someone who is botting will run many bots at once, upwards of 8 at a time. Gold farmers aren't sticking to 1 or 2 accounts either
>>719365681devs =\= community
>>719365691what skill did they make "easier?"
>>719365663You see the typical poster on /v/ is an epic hardcore gamer unless it involves bossing, PKing, raids, playing the game or doing quests.
>>719365607They were pretty open about the fact they weren't going to keep developing content that would just fail to pass polls. At that point it was obvious they were going to just use polls to manufacture consent.
>>719365754And it's non bossing content.
>>719365716Herblore is only profitable if you like clicking grimy herbs, which is pretty shit xp/h compared to making potions which isn't profitable.
>>719365759most recently?fletching, runecrafting, general combat xp
"old school runescape" is not even old school. wake me up when we get 2d runescape back
>>719365887You cast degrime dingus.
>>719365716Eat shit, ironmeme.
>>719363639If they make a runescape 4 they have to fix the issues with the xp curve. You blow past the first 70 levels because it's mostly linear at that point and then it just slows down way too much which kills overhead room to make content. I like most of the shit the gowers did but an logarithmic xp curve was a horrible idea
>>719365898How are totems easier than bankstanding?
>>719365971Yeah but the xp rates are still shit. With all the time you're wasting you're better off just paying for the better rate and using the time elsewhere.
>>719365967you can go play highspell, they just released "Athletics"
>>719365898holy shit, those aren't hardthose are skills so braindead that the only obstacle to get 99 in all of them is your own resistance to boredomthere is literally no fucking skill to leveling up to 99 unless you abuse tick manipulation and that isn't too hard either>general combat xptraining combat is more fun than ever, unless you want to call shit like nightmare zone the pinnacle of combat training
how does every runey thread have the same retarded posts every time
>>719366051way better xp
>>719365967They should reintroduce old school pricing, I'd play again if it was $5/mo
>>719366135That doesn't answer my question.
>>719366135Highest rate for vale totems is 430k/h, highest rate for bankstanding is 900k/h
>>719366168it's less than an hour of min wage per month, you could work a week and make enough for a year. You can't possibly be this poor
OSRS would be the perfect single player experience Just release a two year old version as a single player only game to keep or the soon players happy and still reap in money from stuff like leagues and whatnot
>>719366021>>719365716i think playing a main is now the most boring shit ever, there is no resource that's expensive
>>719366269agree. always wanted a single player offline osrs
>>719366261No shit, of course nobody with Internet is that poor. I just refuse to pay $14/mo out of principle
>go into OSRS section on twitch>chats are nothing but teenage monkeys shouting at streamers to download a million plugins>they also all scoff at "main" accounts while having said million plugins as an ironman so it's basically just a main with extra stepsgame is filled with barely breathing retards who can't function without plugins telling them what to doimagine telling them most people did jad with a rune crossbow when they were 13 without funny squares vomited all over the map
>>719366042A bigger problem I think is early braindead easy quests giving way too much xp. It kills the pace of the game to the point that it makes half the content redundant in the early game
>>719366330Aside from the bots fucking up the prices, there's too many noted resource drops in the game, they all need to be removed.
>$14/mo for a java game
>>719366441so many irons also pay for services kek it's sad
>>719366330You can collect the resources yourself still. I swear every complaint people have here is because they can't comprehend just choosing how you play yourself.
>>719366442even without quests it still goes way to fast
>>719366514>You can just play way less efficiently for no reason lmaoThis isn't the great solution that you think it is
OSRS is just Runescape 2.5 at this point. If you want the "authentic" old school experience just go to one of the various private servers that have it. Nobody actually cares about "muh classic" gameplay other than millenials who cling onto their golden childhood years.
>>719366610>muh efficiencyyou're the one with a problem.
>>719365474>Firemaking, fair (fuck todt)>smithing, giants foundry >runecrafting, gotr>thieving, Varla burglary >fishing, fair>and fletching Vale Totems >all need new shit and have barely been given anythinghuh
>>719366441>iron meme elitists using tile markers, potion timer HUDs and inventory highlightersosrs players have lost the plot so fucking hardi wish jagex weren't so scared of their community and would just outright ban runelite
>>719366610Peak zoomer mindset.>I NEED to have my balls in a vice or else I might feel the temptation to go for a walk!
>>719366707Those aren't really anything more than training methods
>>719366707Those didn't add new content that meaningfully changed the skills, it just changed the way to train them, we didn't get new fires to give us perks, we didn't get armor to smith, we got 1 new combination rune literally for arc spells, no new unique items as thieving loot, no new good fish for cooking, no new darts/arrows/bolts to fletch.
>>719358163I wanted to play Star Wars Galaxies on swgemu but being a crafter or really anything doesn't matter because there's nothing to stop people from making infinite accounts and having every crafter mastered and turning the game into a forest of walmarts.Online games only work when people who have too busy lives to game much play them. Nolifers ruin online spheres and should be turned to mulch.
>>719362970>Can't scam with the GEYou can>Can't barter with the GEMerching is incredibly common through the GE, even with the taxes
literally all the posts about muh old runescape is from people that would only play the game for 5 hours and then never login again
>>719366736I actually can't believe all the shit they have plugins for, things that solve the puzzle boxes in clues, shortest path everywhere, even shit like highlighting the right boss to click instead of using your eyesthat's why I can't believe the audacity these iron faggots have to always shit on anyone when they barely are playing the game, I respect the guy fishing sharks at the fishing guild since he is actually experiencing more of the game than these click the arrow retards are
>>719363194>>719363232OSRS had one of those websites too. Every serious trade pre GE went through ZybezCurrent OSRS is the best the game has ever been in even if it's a bot infested mess
>>719367562
>>719367562>how dare you not love OSRS and have reasonable objectionswhy are you like this?
>>719368175you don't even know what the fuck old runescape is, you have an idea of it in your head but never experienced it in any meaningful way. please tell me how actual 2007scape is better than current osrs
>>719368224>you don't even know what the fuck old runescape iswhat kind of gas-lighting is this? I certainly do considering i played it for years and years lolActual RS2 players would have been floored at the concept of the modern Runelite, ironmeme, tile-marking sweatscaper who doesn't even want to talk.
>>719360413>telling /v/ to actually engage with a video gamehow new
>>719360413...just play all content?
if you havent completed one (1) kc of each of the 3 raids (chambers of xeric, theatre of blood, tombs of amascut) then you dont get to have an opinion of this game
>>>/vg/537125693 theyre talking about us
>>719369052i can't even trust posts like these because you most likely are a pl*gin user
>>719359873>GE removes the value making it simply a function of time to grindI really feel this. So I was leveling Runecraft to 99 and decided I'd just run double natties. I ran double natties for two levels once I could run them and just held the stack in my bank. What could go wrong...well the release of those stupid fucking guardian robes that devalued nearly EVERY room on the market. So now, if I want to get back into grindan' for the gp to be worth it I have to spend forty hours on the shitty robes that only trannymen asked for. And I don't want to do EHP strats like Ourtrania or whatever because EHP is fucking boring...But my whole inhibition wouldn't exist if rune values weren't pegged to something as fluid as the GE...with such a variable fluctuating so wildly only EHP matters if I'm concerned about "wasting my time".Man I wish skilling wasn't such a stupid meme. There are a billion other games I could play if I cared about combat and OSRS certainly sucks balls.
Why are tradefags so mentally ill about GE?
>>719369209>he can't even clear with plugins
>>719369186Oh boy the fucking retards that are allergic to coherent discussion with (You)'s so they can larp as ingame chat while they discuss literal tranny shit.
>>719369306I've always hating (((merching))), and GE was the most extreme QoL for it
>>71936921099% of the time rune values are incredibly static, either they're roughly on par with a non-GE shop price or they're plummeted to single digits and were never worth crafting like the basic elemental runesThe only time this sees significant change is with one or two rune types (generally blood and soul, along with a couple of the new combo runes) because they're tied to charging a staff or some sort of brand new content like how people were burning through hundreds of thousands of fire runes at Yama
OSRS is basically stuck trying to cater to each individual crowd one at a time but they each have some downsidesCombat is basic at its core and thus cant really be expanded much more than it already has without losing its identity, as such more and more bosses will be more of the same just more reliant on being more tick perfect in the actions you takeSkilling is much the same with the exception of skilling bosses adding more depth to a training methodRS3 has at least the advantage of a more diverse combat system so bossing encounters can still feel fresh and new depending on how they incorporate the system they have into the boss.Quests are still fun to do especially on release but the slog you have to do to get up to date quests is pretty brutal
>>719369359when GE first came out I thought it was the greatest update I have ever seendidn't have to waste time with scammers, could buy whatever quantity of stuff I wanted (only need 4 lobsters? too fucking bad buy 100 or no deal) and you can buy whatever purple dildo is needed for quests instead of wasting 50 mins making itthe efficiency faggot of today would have freaked out by how much time was wasted standing in falador only to scammed with bones instead of big bones
>>719370264>(only need 4 lobsters?tele to cammy and fish them>NOOOOOOO THAT TAKES 30 MORE SECONDS AHHHH MY XP MY PRECIOUS TIME ( spent playing mmos)you killed the game
>>719357883https://2004.lostcity.rs/https://vidyascape.org/Here you go if you want a more classic experience
>>719370369so just play ironman
>>719370394not the point retard.
>>719370394why not just fish the lobsters?
>>719370479im just saying a lot of anons would be happier if they just played ironman
>>719370370>2004scape>lumby bank, shrimp and mine weren't in the game>railroaded to al kharid (and thus doing prince ali early)I still don't know if adding the bank and swamp extension was good or bad
>thread about a game i actually play>full of screaming morons with the most vapid, abhorrent takes you've ever seenlmao
>>719370563I haven't given it a try but from the screenshots it looks like the RS2 that I started playing with all the weird models and such
>>719370517why should the game cater to your kind who want to skip as much of the game as possible?>>719370583there's probably a plugin to hide all the comments you don't like
>>719370370Is it possible to get a more classic runescape experience but minus the trannies?
>>719370631>why should the game cater to your kindi literally do not give a shit about trading i'm just saying a lot of anons would be happier if they played ironman
>>719370583What do you want to discuss?
>>719370663the same people that hate GE don't necessarily love ironman, your theory is heavily flawed.They want to interact with other players, not avoid them.
>>719370739>interacting with other playerslol
>>719370785yeah we know, make sure to tab back in to your grind, you could be wasting xp right now
>>719370517it's a sandbox MMO, you choose what you dowhy do you need locks on the cupboards to stop you from drinking bleach?
>>719370517They should make ironman accounts $5/mo and $14/mo to upgrade to full access
>>719370631>crying about your efficiency boogeyman unprompted againyou literally do not play this game I would wager
>>719370882unironically true
>>719370891>unpromptedit was literally prompted by an anon complaining about gathering 4 lobsters being too much for him you absolute retard
Ive spent the whole week killing hueycoatl because i needed a hide drop for a master clueit took 942 kc, hundreds of masses + hundreds of 3-5 teamsi don't even want to look at osrs right now
>>719370954i dont think you conceptually understood the post he was making, and you also didn't refute what i said... hmmm
>>719371129>i dont think you conceptually understood the post he was making1. He is too cheap to overpay for a few lobsters as a convenience tax2. he is too lazy to just go fish the four lobsters and pay nothing3. he wants immediate satisfaction with little to no effort4. he doesn't enjoy the gamei understood it fine
>>719371265Yeah I was right lmao
>>719371349you can't even directly engage with the pointsmaking snide non-responses isn't an argument, retard.
>>719369905i just dont think thats truetheres already so much content, they could just go back and forth. do something for combat, usually attached to a quest, then do something for skilling. i think its more so the min/maxxers butting heads against the casual players
bossing is the best content this game has to offer
>>719371418>teaching math to monkeysi'll pass
>>719371580i'll accept1. if the item was below 1k /ea , to quickly acquire a few of them, you simply multiply the amount by 1kSo if anon needed four lobsters he could say>buying 4 lobsters, 4kand get a trade within 30 secondsThis was an implicit practice understood by the entire playerbase (Besides you and him)
>>719371717kill yourself stupid anti-GE poster
>>719371851>OOK OOK REEEEE:)
>>719358864Yes because I sure do enjoy standing at a bank spamming SELLING 5k MAGIC LOGS all day.the GE is far from a problem. The actual problem is the lack of new (good) content
i know jagex is both running bots and selling gold
>>719371928Post on the forums with your price, leave chat open, do something else. It was so easy literal children figured it out.
all these "trading horror stories" usually never happened. you never had trouble buying or selling magic logs.
>>719371997thats not news. have you seen what the wilderness is
>>719357883Get rid of runelite and the game will get better, that crutch needs to go.
>>719372134and it was so shitty people don't want to do that and prefer to use the GE
>>719372227why will it get better, tell me
pic of me having tons of fun
>>719372336you want that dragon warhammer huh
>>719359886Yeah I hate how every new boss requires you to prayer flick and know do to do tick manipulation which if anything is harder to do while under pressure of constantly getting killed.
>>719370370i was thinking about returning to vscape but the community was so bad i hated it
>>719372396its a cool weapon to have
>>719370785Yah crazy that people want to utilize the multiplayer aspect of an MMO>>719372243And they can go fuck themselves. Sorry you can’t find instant gratification and have to actually find real buyers or sellers instead of having a magical cloud that coordinates all your trades, bitchtits
>>719372336Just buy it on the GE are you stupid?
>>719372554yes
>>719358864GE ruined the game but it also saved the gameIt's the Catch 22 of MMOs, either a game will kill itself with QoL conveniences that favor botting/boosting/RMT or it will will die because it refuses to implement those QoL conveniences
>>719359847and now GE filters scamming jewsgood riddance
Post em Ironmeme btw :^)
>>719372548seething tradie
>>719372548runescape is the most glorified single player mmo to ever exist
What would happen if they dropped another bot nuke? Is it even possible, or are the bots too sophisticated now?
>>719372670Maybe you should learn how to read a trade window instead of being scammed all the time, retard
>>719372779>ironman>not 99 firemaking le epic reddit build guideSure
>>719372792Tradie isn’t an insult. sorry you piss your pants when interacting with another human being
>>719372817jagex lies with their "its not possible, we would accidentally ban real players"The bot farms all look the same, move the same and have the same kind of names
>>719372817jagex sanction soft-botting via runelite.
>>719372873and how much osrs trading have you done recently
>>719372817Jagex wont do it cuz they make money from bots
>>719372870He might have gotten 99 str from le gemmy crab because he was afk'ing too hard for firemaking.
>>719373048Gem crab? I havent played since 2022What is it? Some autobot skills trainer so epic reddit gamers can get goodboy points instead of going to NMZ like real chads?
>>719372965I am NOT a bot. I just solve clues really fast and click highlighted tiles.
>>719373006How would I know. You think I keep a spreadsheet of my trades and sells?
>>719373154atleast gem crab is technically "dangerous", NMZ is even more casual because it's a safe mini-game
>>719372817bots are needed or the game economy would break. no ones gonna be unironically mining coal or iron ore, the bots are needed
>>719373209no, since no one trades in osrs. also, any amount would have been a better bait than "idk"
>>719373265KILL yourself
>>719373265>y-you need bots or the economy would break>y-you need immigrants to do jobs americans wouldn't dokill yourself retard>no one gonna be unironicallyTHEY WOULD IF IT WAS PROFITABLE OR JUST TO AFK AT IT YOU FUCKING RETARD
>>719373154It's just a big crab with infinite HP. Full afk for 10 minutes than it rewards the top 3 damage players a few random gems or something and changes location (you click holes and it automatically takes you to the new location).
>>719373265oh look a J-mod
>>719373265Bots don't exist in RS3 and people unironically mine that shit. Granted it's RS3 so they have like 1000+ automatic banking charges on them at any given point while doing it.
>>719373265they would if they could make money doing itthey can't make money doing it because the bots drive the price downand it's not just boring skiller stuff they do this to, there are bots for literally every activity in the game including bosses and raids. EVERYTHING is having its price driven down in comparison to bonds, the one thing bots have to buy. No one benefits from this other than jagex.
>>719373265Uh, don't ironman accounts unironically gather their own resources like coal and iron?
>>719373265its 2025 grandpabosses drop noted resources now
One of the best, and ONLY GUIDE I can find on OSRS for F2P players that's based and useful:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKC4ejoZqRAA real gem in a sea of coal.
>>719362110>redditfrogfuck off
>>719373543the wiki has optimal guides for every game mode
>>719373375lmaoBots 100% exist in rs3, they just dont really use them for skilling at all, just bossing mainlyI remember with necromancy release and the boss that dropped is for becro was being botted within the month. Made super easy with how dumbed down necro is to useI still see some bots doing rasial to this day
>>719372870you must be talking about me
>>719357883Older school Runescape
>>719373668Reading the f2p guides is just depressing. >Runecrafting >Levels 20–99: Body runes>Experience needed (20–99): 13,029,961>Pure essence or rune essence needed: 1,737,329>Body runes created: 4,335,146>№ of inventories (28 essence per inventory): 62,048
>>719373668It doesn't though. For example, there is zero reason to ever farm giant frogs.
>>719365474Sailing is also going to be a big expansion for a ton of other skills across the game with all of the new resources it's going to introduce>new types of hardwood for shipbuilding (Construction) that can also be burned or Fletched into craftable blowpipes>new ores and Mining methods used for Smithing ship hulls and a ton of new varieties of cannonballs for Sailing combat>new Fishing methods with new fish with unique effects (restore prayer/run, new combo food) and are also used for new potions>new Farming with different kind of hemp for Crafting and new Coral patches for Herblore secondaries>new Thieving methods with Pirate treasures and new kinds of stalls in the new areasThere's definitely skills that need a lot more love beyond just "make a minigame to make training it better" but they have made some small steps to make them better. I'd say some could even use a rework (Smithing and Runecraft) but I appreciate that the devs are cautious about making big fundamental game changes like that, like when they decided not to put the Zaros curses into the game even after they passed a poll.
How is sailing supposed to work exactly? whats stopping lowbies from pulling up on lunar isle out at lvl 30?
>>719371109Just bought mine off the GE for 600k lol
>>719373265>bots are needed or the game economy would breaklol
>>719375827It just wont let you dock until you do the quest. Ape Atoll is getting a dock but they refuse to let humans in until you are friends.
>>719357883This is the one of the few games I can think of where the subreddit actually holds the game, and any changes made to it, hostage. I can't think of any other game that is so cucked that reddit dictates how you design your product.
>>719373375Would automation features be an answer to the bot issue ?
>>719377517Bots are honestly based for this particular item.
>>719375763sailing is going to accidentally recreate dungeoneering and the OSRS community will praise it.
>>719379468Bots are the only reason people dont freak out about blood fury. Without bots a blood shard would cost like 30 million.
>>719358864retarded nigger wants a third party websiteyou would start complaining that the third party website makes you leave the game to find stuff
>>719358118>>719358745>>719360908bots = the game is doing well
>>719373881It's amazing that even today the absolute best Runecrafting XP in the game barely touches 100k XP/hrAnd you're hard stuck at only 60-70k/hr all the way to Level 85 because you're bottlenecked by how pouches work
>>719379263This is ultimately why I quit and every time I try to come back, I’m reminded that it’s literally a reddit gameI can’t stomach playing a game controlled by a reddit echo chamber anymore
>>719379540Genuinely how is it like Dungeoneering at allA skill which is an entirely self-contained minigame you do in one area for points and rewards could not be any more different than a skill where you freely travel all over the map for new resources and opportunities to train other skills
What's even the point of RS if you max everything? I see people just boss after that and it looks boring af.
>>719380583They should bring back dungeoneering but with a f2p version that makes the dungeons suck and constantly reminds players they can upgrade to complete certain puzzles. The rewards should also be so bad bots would never play it.
>>719380583it will create a self-contained zone where people 99 the majority of skills because jagex will add ridiculous xp / loot methods to artificially force its "fun".
>>719380741There's no point. You have to be "efficient" at bossing instead of being good at it to max out loot, so it's explicitly a time waste with gambling built in.
>>719375763You didn't need a skill for that
>>719380741bossing is actually fun and the game should offer more instances where you do it in the early game
>>719359518>convoluted time-consuming nonsensethat's the whole point of MMOs
>>719359886>ergghhh this game is too casual for me!!!>hmm, have you tried these advanced mechanics?>noooo theyre too hard!!many such cases
>>719358864agreed.it removed the social fabric of the game by making it too easy to get all materialsalso they keep casualizing the game. the new death mechanic is a joke and makes death trivial
>>719381564Get rid of gravestones, keep prayer flicking and tick manipulation? Everyone should be happy. The latter were already game mechanics if not emphasized as such
>>719380894They already put The Wilderness in the game, anon
Thoughts?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mpdt7-8HFY
>>719382558i dont knowill watch it later though
>open oldschool runescape>do content that I want to do because it's a sandbox>don't do content I don't want to do>discuss the game with my friends who do the same thingit's that easy
>>719380193whatever you say, Zhang
>oldschool botscape
>>719381919They cant get rid of gravestones because the entire reason they exist is because people ddos'd the servers to kill people and get their loot. Now they are regularly getting ddos'd because a faggot wow streamer started playing the game.They cant even host a pvp event because every single time there are people ddosing the finals.
>>719385314another 12 hours chopping magics... home
>>719386109>They cant get rid of gravestones because the entire reason they exist is because people ddos'd the servers to kill people and get their loot.I don't remember anything about that. I remember the drops on death went away because they wanted to get rid of unbalanced trades since bots were dodging detection by drop trading. They added all kinds of trade restrictions to fight bots.
>>719386512>I don't remember anything about thatgreat counter argument
>>719386778https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/trade-and-drop-changesThe news post from 2007 explaining gravestones were added to combat real-world trading.
We need a proper old school that stays old school instead of immediately ruining the game with GE>muh zybez and 3rd party websitesFuck off, revisionist zoomer
>>719386894>10 December 2007
>>719386894oldschool launched with the original 3 minute timer mechanic. In 2014 they made the timer 30 minutes because of ddos. In 2015 they bumped it to 60 minutes.
>>719357883>Tired of buying everything from bots>Switch to my ironman>Tired of competing for every resource with bots
>>719386894>counter argument with sourcemuch better
>>719387378Gravestones exist because they were programmed in 2007 to fight real world trading. They weren't new content. I can't find any source saying they recycled the assets to combat ddos attacks though, maybe you can provide one.
>>719386109>>719386894who cares about ddos?finals events? who gives a fuck about thatdon't want ddos for loot, then dont have stupidly expensive BIS gear and just put the game back to having Rune as BIS as it should be.
>>719373265bots = mass migration white replacementonly thirdies and jews support bots
>>719357883It's dead as an MMO, because it's filled with bots, 3rd world brown drones and autists who disable chat and players.
>>719387378>2014 they made the timer 30 minutes because of ddos. In 2015 they bumped it to 60 minutes.No wonder I don't remember any of that. I didn't play RS3.
>>719357883This just never captured the magic of Old School Runescape. As soon as the devs started catering to the ultra autismo three-tick poopsocker PVM and PVP maniacs, which was basically right after launch, OSRS was done.Most recently, Fantasy Life i kind of gave me that skilling grind fix I was looking for.
>>719387373Wow, just 4 days before the Alvin and the Chipmunk's movie came out. What a time to be alive.
>>719388059cos their dev team is basically intern shitters + jmods who have been there forever.deadman mode was the coolest shit they ever did, albeit a failure.
I never played it but i want some grindfest to just forget about my life. It the game good to start now?
>>719375827>i have a seal of passage>no you don't fuck off
>>719388527Yes, sailing is coming out. At first it was a joke but soon it will be real. The first new skill to OSRS.
>>719388798sailing is designed by a fat woman
>>719357883pic rel is how you redo this game
>>719372246Not them, but I could make the argument that a lot of the mechanics the game relies on are balanced with the expectation that we have things like tile markers, metronomes, etc. to make learning the core of the game easier, so the game has an entirely unrealistic learning curve for the average person using the default clients.Default client even tries to emulate features from runelite though, so clearly that will never happen. They are wrong that it would be fixed, because it's already over. Even if you get rid of the client, the overcompensating content like hallowed sepulchre still exists, fucked up true tile placement and all.
>>719357883I think the biggest problem is that people who have their maxed or semi-maxed accs run out of things to do. Especially as Jagex, THANK GOD, also focuses on updates that bring more interesting stuff to early and mid game players. There are of course more bosses for late game but to non-ironman multiyear accounts it just means you run to GE to buy the new stuff. No, I'm not going to start "hurrdurr Ironman better"(even if I think group Ironman is peak, kinda hoping for a "clan ironman" with like 20-30 player teams to simulate pre-GE OSRS better), but when endgame maxed accs have so much money, it really makes stuff way too easy to get. Just wait few weeks for prices of new stuff to go down.I honestly think that Jagex should make a new moneysink, maybe Sailing will fix that partly but there should be something more that gets rid of gold. Too much money in economy to make normal accounts interesting enough in long run.
>>719389525troonlite is really terrible. the game looks so ugly with all the bright colored lines and boxes on screen. anyone using that should be throw off rooftops.
>>719389656>I think the biggest problem is that people who have their maxed or semi-maxed accs run out of things to do.I'm maxed.I just do collection log stuff for content I feel like doing. I will never realistically complete it anyway.
Rune Armor should be smithable by LVL 60
>>719390261whats the point of getting 99 then
REWORK BREWINGMake a beer that's a high healing combo-food (so it's like you're eating and drinking at the same time, which makes much more sense than shoving another octopus in your mouth)Giving me an ale that boosts Runecrafting for fucks sake
>>719390302Smithing an untradable armor that has the highest melee defense bonuses in the game by a longshot.
>>719390560untradeables kinda defeats the point of pking tho
I had a nasty flu this week and could not leave the house, but what a week it was for me in OSRS:>hit 90 herblore>hit 98 strength>hit 95 slayer>learned how to kill Araxxor and Cerberus>spooned Araxyte Fang and venom jar at Araxxor below 100kc>won 2 bonds in a cc hide and seek event>Did my first learner raid at CoXThis game is really fun. I should head to Bandos to upgrade my ironmans gear.
>>719390698Then on death it turns back into the bars used to smith the platebody.
>>719389997OSRS makes the feeling unbearable because you aren't being occupied enough probably. I listen to audiobooks and such if what I am doing is mundane, and music if it's particularly "busy" content.It also requires, as you even described, the acknowledgement that I am "wasting time." I quite literally don't have anything else meaningful in my life. There is no competition for my time occurring. There is no opportunity cost that means anything to me.Somehow the game just gives me structure. I do stuff like farming (in-game) and I can just walk away do whatever and come back in an hour to free money. I still play new games (new to me specifically), I get sucked in for hours. Time passes in a blink and I rapidly degenerate because I am too focused. I have no reference for the time, like when I was a kid.Contrary to that, despite OSRS being a bigger waste if comparing meaningful varied experiences, OSRS is the game that saves my time. My awareness sharpens instead of diminishing. MMORPGs are exceptionally good at time-gating content, as well as making you aware of the time in general.I wasted 8 hours today blasting through kotor1 and had to have someone yank me out of my stupor to watch a movie because I was too engrossed.Most importantly (and probably the most simple reason), as long as you have an eye on the clock, you will always be aware of the time. The UI for runescape is almost entirely located in the bottom-right, next to the default location for your system clock. Simply put, your eyes are always inevitably drawn to it, making you constantly aware. Even if you don't do timegate content like birdhouses, farm runs, etc. you will inevitably glance at it. Looking at clocks is suffering, most engaging things don't give you time to do so.I've had a lot of time to think about it.
>>719373265Jagex could manipulate the price of any resource using the GE, it's not like you know who you're buying from, so they could always program in "if price goes below X, create a listing with Y amount at price X" and all the gp generated from that could go down the toilet.Same with buying items if they wanted prices to go up.
I will login to 99 sailing when it drops then logout because I only cared about skilling. I cared about quests too, but it's been a while since a really good one.
>>719390886Jagex has confirmed the GE buys certain items and deletes them from the game if they notice there are too many of them and the price is tanking too hard.
>>719390774cant equip bars tho can i
>>719364220>that also can't be interruptedyeah, that's the entire point of it, not to be better than rock crabs for xp, so that people don't need to fight for limited spots and crash others.you seem to understand the purpose of it, it isn't faster xp than if you had a perfect rock crab spot no one would fight you for, its so you don't need to fight with crashers.its actually slower xp/hr than optimal rock crabs depending on your gear and level, the lower the level you are the better crabs are, but it evens out to close enough the game (gemstone is always marginally worse)but guess why its still popular?because again, no one wants to deal with crashers.if you think its better xp/hr that means you were losing xp/hr to crashers, not gaining it from the gemstone crab.
>>719391023Smart. They can combat bots while still letting them pay for membership. Win-win, everyone is happy.
>>719367029sailing is at least adding a chunk of new things to some of those.new fish to catch that do new shitnew potions to makenew stuff to fletch (other blowpipes)new cannonballs to smith (and thiev)and that's just off the top of my headsailing is them straight up sneaking in the shit people refuse to let pass polls because of most of the playerbase being deathly afraid of adding new things but regularly adding shit from runescape, which turns out to be the most popular things, despite hating it. its truly delusional
>>719391330making new content is pointless when you have a massive game world that you could just be adding to. same problem they did with Zeah, never needed more land mass to begin with.
Should I play as an Ironman? I'll only play to get a quest cape. I don't give a fuck about 99s.
>>719391412>making new content is pointless when you have a massive game world that you could just be adding toare you functionally retarded?how are you conflating adding landmasses to content? you know that when things are added to the existing gameworld that is still new content.what are you even trying to say.also, pretty much every update before 2007 added new land, it just got slapped onto the side of the existing land, coastlines were deformed to add new shit. this happened so much they started just covering the world in black voids and filling it in.you would know this if you actually played the game then.again, how the fuck does someone conflate new content with adding a new landmass?
>>719391469nah just play with 2 accs, one to feed the other supplies.ironman is pointless, you still have to deal with bots and will only get destroyed in pvp cos u dont have fuck all supplies.
>>719391469If you're new I'd say just go normal account, you can always just not use the GE if you want to feel accomplished about a particular grind.
/ourguy/ scurrius mogs the reddit crab anywayyou do about 15% less dps to him with decent stats but he has a 42.5% xp bonus while crab has -12.5%, ie 1.62 times as much xp per damage
>>719391518fixing the coastline is fine but the total land mass even in 2004 is massive and hardly needs to be bigger. the best way to fill out the game is through added verticality (up or down), cos that adds more depth to the game.
>>719391808also the abundance of law runes ruins the game world experience because u can teleport across the map for pennies instead of engage locally with the world, use routes like boats and so on.hence why sailing is pointless as fuck, why are u gonna spend 15 minutes travelling virtually on a sail boat when u can just get to the other side of the world in 1 tick at the cost of a law rune?
>>719391808damn you really can't read at all
>>719391971get ur reading glasses on boomer
Genuine question: would expanding the server player capacity be of any benefit at all? Raising the 2000 player cap to like, let's say, 4000? Or even higher?
>>719392205The servers literally can't handle 1000 players without lagging and you want to double it?
>>719392205>>719392295there would only be twice as many bots. nobody actually plays this game.
>>719392295Obviously taking into account better servers. I’m just talking from a pure gameplay perspective not technical infrastructure.
>>719392205for sure, just imagine how much livelier the castle wars server would be with twice as many players
>>719373265This is such a bad take, even if this were 1000% true (it isn't, but let's humor this thought experiment), there is nothing stopping Jagex from programming the GE to simply spawn those low level resources out of thin air at a low but lightly-fluctuating price to achieve the same thing. Not that it actually matters like you say.
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>>719392447>>719392568ideally youd have 1 world so you dont have to go around world hopping like a spastic just to contest resources. though bots also fuck that idea over too.
>>719392205If you want to do pretty much any non-instanced content you have to find an empty world. What would increasing the server capacity even achieve?
>>719357883A redo with no pvp and no free trade. total bot genocide
>>719395390pvp is the main draw of the game besides collecting shit in ur bank, building gay ass house and doing quests.
>>719357883I maxed last year and quit. I had zero people in my friends list the entire time.
>a game like Runescape, but botting is encouraged. Complete with a built-in scripting language for the bots and a shared bank of all of your accounts. And you can of course have a main account to play on yourself, where you can walk around with all of your 1/1000 drop rate equipment you got from bottingThis is my billion dollar game idea. Thoughts? I think this will make for a very autistic game
>>719396131That would be anti-autistic. People would script most efficient script and share it, ruining the whole idea of scripting.Even as a meme idea it kinda falls flat, especially as it wouldn't give any incentive to actually play game itself. Imagine if you could just get max stack of cash when you start your first OSRS account. What's the point?
>>719396131the problem is people would just share the optimum scripts, so you'd never really get the experience of gradually mastering content like raids, cg, inferno/colo, etc. you'd just turn on the script in the meta order a bunch of times and you'd be at max poweri think allowed botting is a much better state than the limbo they have now (and will always have if they keep banning it - there will never be full detection without false positives), but you can't just allow dumping scripts on the internet for anyone to pick up and run for the rest of the game's lifespan. need either a way to lock scripts to individual accounts, or a way to degrade script performance over time. and if you're doing one of those things you're allowing non-official bots a window to compete with you again...maybe the way to do it would instead be to add difficult pvm encounters with mechanics to a completely single-player game like factorio. so running scripts from the internet would be seen as cheating like looking up a walkthrough for any single player game is, not something you have to do to catch up
>>719390753>torsoget bloodmoon
>>719393819sailing is basically dung but on the open world
>>719396131so, Runescape?watch the jmod interviews, like Mod Mat K. he literally says "but how do botters affect you personally?" and hes the same fag who banned ppl for harassing emilyispro (cancer faker and viewbotter)
>>719373265I have only seen maxed main trannies complain about that. Gathering resources being expensive would improve the new player experience thousandfold.
>>719397640cos they want their instanced bosses to drop x10,000 noted ore, very realistic u know
>>719396934Working on it but I am not gonna just grind moons until I get everything, I do the content I feel is fun on any given day and moons has been feeling boring.
>>719391469Start out as ironman and see how you like it. You can remove the ironman status at any time, but you can never turn a normal account to an ironman later.
>>719357883ITS 2011SCAPES TURN NIGGER
I got my full crystal set this week on my iron bros. I'm too scared to go to gwd to use it for the altar method though.
>>719399845>im gonna take this 9000 hour grind game...and make it take 100x longer!autistic helmies
Shit because of bots.Its not even that hard to deal with them. Just hire more people. You dont need to kill 100% of them, just make it unprofitable.
>>719399845cg is way harder than bandos
>>719399943You should try it, that dopamine rush when you get the drop is next level.
staminas were a mistakeshouldnt have zilyana be a boss you kill by just running the edge of the arena 24/7same with flick praying all the bodyguards at once with the boss like bandosyou WILL face tank everything you WILL only get 1 or 2 kills per trip and maybe get stacked out and you WONT get any hilts
I am convinced that the game gives you your best slayer tasks late at night.
>>719400119retard you don't think the grunts at Jagex don't want to do that? The investment company doesn't give a fuck about bots they just want their players numbers to look good to extract as much profit as possible before selling. Which may be soon according to the grapevine. Tackling bots hasn't mattered since the Gower brothers privately owned the company.
>>719400402swear jagex is the most passed around company on the planethavent they been sold like 3 times in the last 5 years?
>>7193578832006 version when? would be fun to not have grand exchange and no super hard content runescape was never supposed to have
>>719391909>the abundance of law runes ruins the game world experience because u can teleport across the map for pennies instead of engage locally with the world, use routes like boats and so on.You can teleport across the world for free with the Edgeville/Ardy leverThe boat from Rimmington to Ardy costs 30 coinsYou can teleport from the GE to Ardy with the Spirit Trees after a baby-tier questYou get free unlimited teleports to Ardy just by doing the Ardy diaryNot knowing how to get around the game is a knowledge issue, not an economic one. Even if Law runes were harder to get or cost 1k each like in the old days (before you played) you only need like 50 runecrafting to make them yourself.
>>719400624>and no super hard content runescape was never supposed to haveWrong Dag kings and Fight Caves were way more difficult back then with shitty internet and gear. A 2006 server would die after like 6 months because it would be boring in 2025.
>>719401068yeah pre gwd update classic was dying fasta #no changes 07 server would only be good for autistic region locked ironmen so they have less cheesy tactics to do all content
>>719401068runescape engine is not good for intense bossfights like dt2 bosses. i hate the rhytm game bosses. jad was always fair because it's a mechanically very simple boss
>>719395556>pvp is the main draw of the game
>>719401181It's fine if you don't like the gameplay but PvM is way better now than it's ever been. Sorry you just suck ass.
>>719401341the only thing i really like that they did for pvm was make it so projectiles can be flicked before they touch you instead of if you see the projectile its already too latethat shit always made me sperg as a kid
>>719401341i don't think any game has as many things to pay attention to as modern runescape bosses. you need to click multiple times in a second with 0.6 second delay on every move. it's just not fun when no mistakes are allowed
>>719359518>The Grand Exchange did away with all that convoluted time-consuming nonsenseany time put into this game irregardless of what you are doing is convoluted time-consuming nonsense
>>719401486Most content is pretty forgiving outside HMToB and facing Zuk in the Inferno. Yeah it can be sweaty but so is all end-game content in most MMO's. Players willing to git gud should be rewarded rather than appeasing shitters.
>>719401586You can say that about every video game. But standing around trying to sell shit is especially retarded. Especially now with how much gear/items are in the game vs mid 2000s.
You guys are gonna give RS3 leagues a chance right?
>>719371997THERE IS SOMETHIN WRONG WITH YOU MOD JEDCREEP MOTHAFUCKA
Just finished this. Now I'm laughing at every noob I see using a Dramen Staff, lmaooo imagine needing a staff
>>719401778yeah i really dont want to deal with item swap trade scammers for 40 minutes before i finally offload my resourcesand then people say "just use an online forum to sell your goods!"or i could just use a fucking AUCTION HOUSE AT THAT POINT NIGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>719401984Staff free fairy rings should have been a reward from Fairy Tale 3 like it was originally
>>719357883>doing rogue shit like acrobatics and thieving is still gated behind a full 10 dollar mmo feejust like when I was a kid I see. Lame.
>>719372817back in the day they quit doing bot nukes because it caused massive hits to subscription revenue
I am nearly max combat and have never got my fighter torso.
>>719400628those are fine because they only get you from A to B and vice versa. teles can be used anywhere to take you anywhere.
>>719402241fighter torso is dead content fuck that minigamejust get mixed hide
>>719402241I'm maxed as well and only got mine recently for a master clue step. Not really needed anymore otherwise with blood moon gear. Although I actually kinda enjoy Barb Assault
>>719402178you can literally just get 60 magic in half a day and fight bryopytha, get a 9m drop or just chop wood and get enough felling axe handles to buy a bond if you don't want to spend money
>>719402241I got it last week, takes like 2 hours tops, people told me it was horrible but it's fine.Watch this for defender, the rest are very easy.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSur4bZ4qvo
>>719397234wtf i didn't know mat k was based like that. one of the best gamers in the community too, his technique is unmatched
>>719401984I still feel smug knowing Lumby elite requires way more quests now to get than when I finished it when achievements first came out
>>719371997>selling goldNo shit?
2x drop rate on synapse.
what is the 150 iq take on bots?
>>719405203They will always exist even if Jagex wanted to take care of them it's an arms race and complaining about it wont do anything.
>>719405737thats the controlled narrativetruth is that jagex are behind the bots. at some point some retard had the idea that keeping bots around will sell more memberships than not. but obv reality is that is a retarded cope, and its just simply easier to have a bot-riddled shit game. because they dont have the talent to make a fun game, even if they had zero bots in the first place.
>>719406072Are the bots causing any real harm? Wiley boss bots are the only real problem
>>719402241Barb Assault is some of the most fun content in the game
>>719405737i think so too. runescape being centered around an economy makes this inevitable. i'm very curious about the theoretical impact the removal of all bots would have on the economy. what do you think it would be?some obvious effects:>short-term price increase for raw resources and low level finished goods, like dragon bones, dragonhide, essence, runes, ores, bars, etc>short-term low/med-level players beginning to take up skilling to capitalize on the price increases to make money>prices go down, but never to the same price as when bots were supplying these resources>price increases leads to supply cost increase>this makes it unprofitable for casual pvm:ers to make money from bossing, because the barrier of entry of now more expensive>higher end pvm:ers make more money because they can absorb supply price increase, continue getting drops, and increase their prices when selling the drops - coupled with the fact that they now have less competitionthis is assuming jagex doesn't increase the supply of raw resources through drops to balance out the economic impact of the removal of bots.
>>719406072Both can be true retard
>>719357883Speaking of osrs, wtf is going on with the /vg/ thread? Why's it so schizo?
>>719406337Some can be annoying when they take over non-instanced rooms so you have to pay the private instance fee. Otherwise it's not that big of a deal
>>719406624nigger how can it be an "arms race", that would imply there is any level of competence at jagex. they employ retards who end up ddosing their own players, fucking with ppls accounts, cheating themselves, doing nothing about false bans, and thats only the surface level of things that are known to have happened.
>>719370563I think they were good, it creates more player movement around lumby especially with the free home tele. Those players could then help fresh noobs find their bearings and increase new player retention
>>719407153Yeah that's why I said "even if Jagex wanted to take care of them" implying they stop underpaying compared to industry standard and understaffing in order to maintain talent retention. As it stands like you said it's easier to just scrape by without even attempting to get the situation under control
>>719406381Hard to say as botting has been an issue for so long it's difficult to envision a time without it. I think Jagex would absolutely try to keep prices of resources reasonable so mains aren't complaining about stuff like 30k prayer pots while boss uniques that were heavily botted would shoot up in price like the Voidwaker.
>>719406707That's most /vg/ threads. It's a containment board.
>>719406707>why do I have to adapt to other people in a place i don't visit!>why don't they act like I WANT them to?!
>>719406707just abandon the vgfags and come to vm, we already have a thread up but it's pretty slow>>>/vm/1417292
>>719408692Why did you make up a completely different post to respond to?
>>719409037huh? she was bitching about thread culture. oh noez i don't like it when the mean people type like that make it stop!
>>719409204You seem to project a lot.
>>719409204>thread culture>not just three mentally ill trannies that spam random inane bullshit
>>719372472same, i ended up joining 04scape because of it. the community feels a lot better but i wish it were 06scape
>>719380212depends on what you mean by bestrunners get you 400k an hour
>>719397640sexo nieve
>>719413151already stretched out by BGC (big glough cock)
>>719402470>lord shayneBased, fuck all the newer guides, this is literally all you need, defender is solved and braindead with like 5 tile markers
>>719412694Yeah I mean without cheating
>>719405737They will always exist but jagex could cut down on them massively by limiting the amount of accounts made, and using phone numbers/credit cards to validate real players
>>719408343It's literally worse than most /v/g threads>>719406707Because mods refuse to ban the 5 troons and the same amount of ironic shitposters that never contribute to anything. The problem could be solved in less than a week even if they ban evaded. All it would take is a thread specific janitor to delete obvious off topic shit and forward the poster IP to a mod to ban
>>719406707Retards start shitposting, reports do nothing, good posters leave, retards take over. It generally happened to 4chan as a whole too.
>>719414269that's not cheating
>>719380212we could be getting way more of people still did the thing back in the day where you brought essence to a guy, traded him, and he'd give you essence and nature/law runes back. It fucking sucks that blast furnace has fucking NPC dwarves instead of players even though the whole point was collaborate but jagex won't add npc runners for runecrafting that don't cost several mil per hour like they do now
