Can someone explain to me why Konami didn’t remake MGS1 that would’ve gained more from a visual upgrade than MGS3? Yes MGS3 is the most popular, but MGS1 is a close second, it’s not like Dark Souls 1 vs Dark Souls 2, for you to just go and skip it.And if they actually fell for the timeline meme, then they’re retarded lol.
metal gear solid has been a reddit series for the last 10 years and 3 is the most reddit of the five
Because they're looking to make a quick and easy buck first and foremost, so MGS3 (and SH2 before it) are the obvious first targets for remake.
>>719379217You can finish that game in hour. It is realy short.
>>719379284Did /v/ ever like it in the past? I mean as crazy as they used to like Elder Scrolls or Zelda for example.
>>719379217MGS1 sucks as a game and 3 is the only one really even worth playing.
They said it's because MGS3 is the first chronologically
>>719379287Probably even Suikoden 2 was the only going to be remastered but then they decided to do the first one too, which is why the collection took too long.
>>719379959MGS3 was a sacred cow for a long time. I don't know if that still holds true but the game was sacrosanct.
>>719380018That’s retarded, timeline doesn’t matter in MGS, Kojimbo never planned anything, he just went along with it. Venom Snake is proof of this, most retarded bullshit ever.
>>719380037I thought /v/ liked MGS1 the most.
4 is the least reddit mgs
>>719380037Only because PS2 Bronies defended it so hard. Twin Snakes for Gamecube is better, and Delta proves MGS3 was for scalies and X-Men fans. How embarrassing.
>>719380260>Twin Snakes for Gamecube is better,just no
>>719380154>70% cutscenesNo overtly Reddit. Storywise I consider MGSV to be the most Reddit, with its message “you’re le bigg boss”
>>719379217If they remade MGS1 you just know they'd force tranq bullshit into it. It's better if they leave it alone.
>>719379217They'd have to make bigger changes to the gameplay and structure to sell it to modern audiences, and the retards making shit there are too afraid try and too incompetent to do that anyway. So they went with MGS3, a game that is the most beloved and were the gameplay is close enough to modern standards that they can get away with minimal effort.
They already remade MGS1 dipshit.
>>719380803I do agree Tranq is retarded, it’s like easy mode, you kill them but it doesn’t count as killing, so you get a perfect stealth score.
A series of gray rooms in a world with less than 50 enemies showcases the PS5's graphical prowess far less than the game where you prone through lush and muddy jungles of Russia. No one knows who Snake even is anymore, Big Boss is way more popular a character now due to 5. Also the Re4 remake just happened so this game is just kinda more relevant and the graphics in the game sell a console way better than the abstract polygons in MGS 1
>>719381048Yeah and it's stuck on the fucking Gamecube. It doesn't count
>>719381296Twin Snakes sucks, be glad it's stuck on the Gamecube.
>>719379217Third person shooter gameplay doesn't work with the level design, they'd either have to stick with the overhead view and filter zoomers or make the locations unrecognizable and anger boomers. Atmosphere is also what the game rides most heavily, which is what remakes are always worst at. They'll probably try it eventually but it'll likely not do anything well and fall short of even Twin Snakes charming retardation.
>>719380260that looks disgusting. What settings/gpu?Reminds me of when I tried putting cyberpunk on psycho raytracing, frame gen and ultra performance DLSS. it's like a hallucination of a game. genuinely nauseating to play
>>719379284>reddit reddit redditKill yourself.
>>719381358>they'd either have to stick with the overhead view I hate that this is like a joke of an idea to the average gamer.
>>719379217They already remade MGS1. Same reason why the more modern Resident Evil Remakes 'started' with 2.>Yes MGS3 is the most popularProof?
>>719379217Some games should not be remade and this is one of them.
>>719381478It's medium graphics with the classic piss filter. I can barely run the game on my GPU and no RTX. There's your datamining info. I don't know why you need that info.
You spend most of the game in the codec menu. Why does that need an upgrade?
>>719382165im just curious what the context is to produce such bad visuals you autistic retard
>>719381358>Third person shooter gameplay doesn't work with the level design,MGS4 revisited the place and showed how to fix it. The levels are massively expanded but keep the same shape. The levels look pretty gorgeous.
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>>7193824562008 looks like a Black Ops 1 map.
>>719382456It would be really hard to capture that blue tint of the steel, it just blends in nicely with the ice. And without it the entire atmosphere is ruined.
>>719382456>10 years from mgs1 to 4>feels like a lifetime, massive graphical difference>10 years have passed since MGSV>feels like 3 or 4 years have passed, games basically look the same
>>719382739Bruh games don’t even look that different from PS2.
>>719382719>It would be really hard to capture that blue tint of the steelhttps://i.imgur.com/uKgxPzz.gifit's a lot easier than you might think with modern lighting gadgets, light probes and texture projection would cover most of it if you aren't directly baking lighting into the texture (which is what mgs1 did)
>>719379284>msg has been a Reddit series since I started coming here in 2016Pretty sad life you got there
>>719382915extremely fecal rebuttal, anon
>>719382839Only the best looking PS2 games will compare but even among the best I see a pretty big difference in the best PS3 to PS4 era gamesBut a lot of it is the switch in how lighting and materials/textures are handled now
>>719383002You would know all about fecal since you eat shit
>>719382263Well I don't know what your particular gripe is. /v/ has a lot of micro triggers. Something about my webm looking like it has raytracing even though I can't use raytracing?
>>719383582excuse me, but you are actually the sad life poop eaterha ha, no you!
>>719383582>>719383634Really insightful conversation
>>719383617Kek
>>719379217They did.Twin Snakes is the definitive version, beg Tendie to put it on their sub if you are too retarded to use dolphin.
>>719379217>Can someone explain to me why Konami didn’t remake MGS1 that would’ve gained more from a visual upgrade than MGS3?They had the pachislot model allready made, and they had to train the new team to make a good stealth action game, so MGS3 was a no brainer since is the best in the series.
>>719379959yes, it won out or came close to top on many of /v/'s best games ever lists
>>719380596Its just an inversion of the MGS2 ending. Raiden throws away the players dogtags at the end, becoming his own man. Venom, you, throws away his identity to become the legend.
>People seething over mgs 3 remake>When mgs 1 was just a remake of mg 2 solid snake>and mgs 2 being a remake of mgs 1
Remember when faggots were saying Delta will have some le suberverted ruse cruise amalgamation of the cut chapter from death stranding and the secret 3rd act of V that reddit failed to unlock through disarmament?
>>719379284redditors breathe air too, maybe you should consider not breathing
>>719391528Literally no one said that
>>719391609nigga is this your first month here? we even have a fucking resident tripfag that kept claiming we would all be btfod for laughing at him for the past 9 years. This was his like 8th act 3 conspiracy theory. It used to be paired with Silent Hills.
>>719379217it's an extremely short game padded with lots of backtracking. I don't see them remaking this unless they're planning to sell it for $30 or they're also doing an MGS2 remake bundled with it.
>>719379217i'm guessing they're doing it chronologically, so big boss's games are all in HD now (pw aside), next they might do pw (unlikely) or mgs1 then 2
>>719379639Blatantly false. It is short indeed but you can't beat it in an hour
Did everyone just memory holed TT?
>>719379217They did remake MGS1 it's called Twin Snakes and it sucks fucking ass and is ironically even worse than what MGS3 didAlso they want to remake the games "in order" which is also why the included Peace Walker gear in MGS3, as Peace Walker is getting the remake treatment next
>>719392141What's TT?
>>719379217Because remaking MGS1 to modern sensibilities would require an entire reworking of the entire game's mechanics and level design.Remaking MGS3 is just a matter of adding OTS aiming and replacing the graphics.
>>719379217>Can someone explain to me why Konami didn’t remake MGS1They literally fucking did, you secondary
>>719379217>MGS 3 is regarded as the best in the series and is the most popular>remaking PS2 games is much easier since almost all the work is already done>meanwhile remaking PS1 games requires making a new game from the ground up>MGS 3 is chronologically the first in the series who are we kidding, the decision to pick MGS3 is the result of cynical executives that projected it would sell the best and require the least investment
>>719379217MGS3 is more popular and chronologically goes first.
Because it's easier to slap assetts over geometry and level design that still approaches modern standards instead of remaking a game from the ground up
>>719393172Should also add that it's easier to remake i t "authentically" close to the original. Remaking MGS1 is a harder task.
>>719379217I don't want that i just want MGS4 to leave PS3 hell, port that shit to anything else.
>>719379997>MGS3>worst maps>worst bosses>worst "survival" mechanics that just bring the gameplay to a screeching halt to go menu hopping to change camo among other nauseating thingsMGS3 belongs in the trash along with MGS4 & 5. The series ended with 2.
>>719384798what do you expect? its just some kid being stupid.
>>719379217because Metal Gear Solid 3 already had the bones there and would be easier to remake, Metal Gear Solid 1 was designed to be top-down, if you wanted it to play with something more modern like first person or third person mode they would have needed to redesign all the levels to compensate
>>719393512Or just use Twin Snakes as a basline for the remake.
>>719393548Twin Snakes is literally worse in every aspect and an example of how not to do a remake
>>7193799592 and 3 were common "elitist" picks for the poser types
>>719379284underage retard
>>719380260>this entire schizopost
They remade 3 because 3 is self-contained story. 1 and 2 have lots of callbacks to earlier games. For 3 it's only that time paradox meme.
>>719392673Wrong sweaty, that was Silicon Knights, maybe you should fact check before posting
>>719380596MGS4 has more gameplay than the previous MGS games
MGS1 is too hard to remake for current Fuckonami lol. Look at how much they struggled with a 1:1 remake, they'd be lucky to even get fucking Twin Snakes quality let alone something close to the OG game.I had a thread yesterday about Metal Gear 2 and imo those are those first MSX entries need a remake the most because they show really important moments in the lore. Issue is likelihood of them getting that right is even lower than an MGS1 remake so fuck it.
>>719394491What's so hard to remake about MGS1?
>>719395791Well I would say MGS3 is a lot closer to a more modern game, especially the free cam re-releases. The thing with MGS1 is a lot of the design of Shadow Moses (the map the game takes place in) was designed very carefully with that perspective in mind and also is quite small, so a to scale model would work kind of weird if they were to keep the map but with updated mechanics and graphics. They'd have to significantly expand it.It would also need a complete rework of a lot of mechanics where it doesn't have the Twin Snakes problem where the game is too easy, it needs to have the challenge of MGS1 with the new mechanics it would provide which would require a lot of work and planning imo. Games have done stuff like this before, for example RE2R did a pretty damn good recreation of the RPD, I do still prefer the OG game but basically think of something like that a major rework would be needed.
>>719379217the orginal mgs1's artstyle holds up today
>>719379217Take dark soul crap somewhere, play real man games>>>/vr/11984391
>>719379217MGS1 would be the entry that would require the most altercation. More liberties would need to be taken. If they plan on remaking the series, I'd prefer they do MGS1 last so they can iron out any problems that arise with the other remakes.
