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Crazy how one of the biggest games in the world with billions in revenue every year managed to commit suicide due to their inexplicable greed in 1 single patch.
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But enough about FGO, this is supposed to be a thread about Genshin Impact.
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What patch, what are you talking about
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>>719436936
He's a F2Poor who's malding about not getting free gibs for lvl.100 characters despite never contributing to the above-mentioned revenue in the first place.
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Are C6 4*s also getting Level 100? Otherwise I never see myself using this feature, even with free constellations.
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>>719437081
Oh, that. They're also giving out 4 consts a year for limited characters so it kinda balances out. For poorfags this will be a net positive, it's the whales who should be upset because they'll have to pay more now.
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>>719437336
Nah. But play long enough and you'll stack a standard 5 star to C7. It's kind of inevitable
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>>719436936
>do update
>said update creates massive glitch that gives a fair chunk of premium currency for nothing
>said glitch is easily repeatable, to the point that people who aren't even looking for said glitch are finding it
>glitch stays in place for days
>Tencent looses millions upon millions of dollars in "unrealized monetization costs"
>instead of fixing said glitch ASAP and patching the fuck out of it, they see who did the glitch and how many times
>if you didn't use the premium currency, it was simply removed from your account
>if you DID use it, your account is now in the negative, meaning that for the foreseeable future unless you actually spend real money you'll never get out of said negative numbers
>Tencent says "next time don't cheat, assholes" to everyone in the red
>players leave en-mass in protest because Tencent is being greedy dickwads and releasing shit without QA, then placing the blame on players when it was their own damn fault

There you go. All caught up
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>>719437538
What does any of this have to do with Genshin
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>>719437538
no one pinned them down and forced them to use an exploit which would probably get them banned
whether it's reddit impact or any other game like this
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>>719437538
What game was this?
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>>719437506
I've been playing since launch and I still haven't gotten a 5 star with a completed constellation chart. I am at C4 with Dehya, Qiqi and Diluc however lol.
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pay up piggies
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>>719437336
holy rape
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>>719436936
It's nothing. Just another case of retards being retarded and screeching about things they didn't bother thinking about because they're retarded.
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>>719437945
In terms of team comps that actually matter this is realistically only relevant for one character; Raiden.
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>>719436579
How I wake up every day since I quit playing ALL gacha games, including Hoyo slop, and Nikke, and any others. Take the nogacha pill OP, and see how good life can be. You’ll have more money, and more time to spend on games that actually bring you joy instead of force you to avoid punishment
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>>719438131
Collei rape isn't allowed! Only happy, consentual sex with me!
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>>719437741
Damn near every live service game has had an incident like this and it amazes me that people still act SHOCKED when they're punished for spending the dubious currency.
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>>719437945
So I really only need to max out my Keka and Ineffa, that's easy enough. The most of those are just meme reactions that don't do damage anyways.
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>>719438321
what about cookie?
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>>719437451
You want to spend those 4 cons on standard characters to take your limited characters up to level 95/100 actually.

Also whales probably don't have to pay shit, they already have tons of those things to use. They'll just have to be stingy about it unless they want everyone at level 100, and even then I bet a lot of whales have enough lol.
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>>719437840
>rolling for c0 on worthless 5 stars
kek a single good 5 star with c6 like furina or neuv can change everything.
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>>719438562
>writes "don't touch me" on the omurice
yep, I'm thinking rape
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>>719438321
It doesn't affect Raiden at all really. It's mainly a buff for Nod Krai characters if you're just looking at meta. It does buff a bunch of older characters too but even with +40% they aren't meta compared to the new Nod Krai's.

>>719438713
Lunarchargers > hyperbloomers > swirl(though I think we're gonna see a swirl buff soon, I kinda think Varka will be peak meta for a while) > the others.
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>>719438713
If we were only talking about pre-6.0 teams Kuki would arguably be better than Raiden but due to the way Lauma works she actually benefits from Raiden's faster Electro attack so she pulls ahead. Raiden + Lauma is the best Hyperbloom pairing if you take level 100 into consideration. Without Lauma Kuki or Ineffa are typically better.
>>719439006
>It's mainly a buff for Nod Krai characters
No it isn't. Nod-Krai characters primarily deal Lunar element damage which barely scales with character level due to the fact that they ignore defense completely.
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>>719436579
I c6ed this fat cow and I can't even bring her up to 95 cause my other highest are c5 standards. I am not rolling more just for lvl 100s but it's kind of funny though I'm no megawhale.
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>>719438562
Cute Cullein
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My wife makes her debut next patch it can't be bad.
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My wife has been C6 for years, so she's going to be my first lv100
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>>719436579
I stopped playing 2 months ago. And now after this livestream any desire I had to come back is gone.
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>>719439646
Whoa, hey guys. Copy that.
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>>719439763
Thank you for announcing that you're retarded.
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>>719439250
The reaction still does more damage than the old ones, and they get a 40% buff to it.
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How do I stop being bad at the game? Swapped Mona for Citlali and got 3* on the first chamber.
>swap Mualani out
No!
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>lv 100
I think I am going to stop playing this game.
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You quit the game because you fear you might fall behind the power curve
I quit the game because they haven't delivered an interesting story or area in 3 years
we are not the same
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Yet you can't quit the threads.
Curious!
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>>719439849
do you just have retarded artifacts?
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>>719438641
Yeah, yeah sure, but what game was that particular sperg ranting about?
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>>719439837
No they don't. You do not understand how Lunar reactions/damage works.
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>>719439849
Try leveling up talents further than level 1.
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Kind of a shame honestly, since the region looks fun and the story is finally getting interesting. But first they do the fucking stygian dogshit endgame whale check mode, then this level 100 whale buff, I also expect the new Imaginarium difficulty to be a whale check but it also gives primos because they're basically worthless for whales so why not and to add salt to the wound they're also locking open world flavor behind paywalls now, if you own the right character you get special interactions and lore/background bits here and there.

Honestly in Fontaine and Sumeru I was amazed how as a f2p I could do my 36 star abyss and there was literally nothing a f2p could not do as easy as a giga whale gameplaywise. Then they shot themselves in the foot by releasing a direct competitor to genshin with HSR, then they shot the other foot clean off with ZZZ. Now they've gotta invest in 3 projects to make the same amount of money investing in one of them would make and of course they stoop down to fucking cringe like whale pandering and character checks to bait whales into paypigging more and casuals to pull to stay competitive. What I don't understand is why they don't just do skins instead of fucking shit that impacts gameplay. They do what 2 non free skins a year? And even casuals buy them if they're for their favorite characters, despite most of the skins being really lazy and barely changing anything. If they released a skin every patch for a different character, they would make bank. Or even just spam skins for the 20 most popular characters if they're so desperate.

I absolutely hate the direction the game went into financially in the second half of Natlan. And no the region was cool and fun, I'm not gonna say it killed the game or whatever doomposting niggers are throwing around.
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>>719440379
>whale check
Retard.
>whale buff
Retard.
>whale check
Retard.
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>>719439401
I own c9 diluc. I will be making my c0 no 5 star weapon cow level 100.
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>>719439849
Put Iansan in the first team instead of fishl, you can swap furina for mavuika as well if you wanna be super meta. As for the second team, just make a normal fucking team without Mualani. I wanna fuck her brains out as much as you and I pulled for her but she's dogshit because the chinese niggers didn't release a single good pyro support for her aside from mavuika, who's the best DPS in the game and using her for support is literally trolling.
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>>719440212
see>>719437945
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>>719440379
you're freaking out over nothing lol
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>>719440647
>retard
Yes and that does not translate to 40% more damage for Nod-Krai characters. Not even close. It does translate to ~40% more damage for Raiden which is why she's by far one of the best characters to push to 100 assuming you plan on running a 120k DPS Hyperbloom team.
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>>719436579
Nahida band-aid microbikini
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>>719437538
I got what I voted for
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>>719440450
>owning specific characters at high cons to be able to complete a mode is not a whale check
kill yourself you dumb ragebaiting nigger
>owning c6+ characters to get stat boosts isn't whale buffing and pandering
kill yourself you dumb ragebaiting nigger
>increasing the difficulty of a balanced gamemode just because too many people are easily completing it and adding a requirement for more characters in it is not a whale check
kill yourself you dumb ragebaiting nigger
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>>719440815
>retard spergs out
Didn't read because you're wrong and retarded. Concession accepted.
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>>719440750
>unironic double digit retard trying to do math
lol
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The only limited c1 that seems useful would be Shenhe but even then I don't think it'll be worth it. Hmmm.
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>>719442204
Hu Tao
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>mfw i don't do any endgame content and only play for the story and exploring the world so these changes mean nothing to me
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>can't pick to get a free char
damn I don't want to actually roll for Cyno
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>>719442204
Eula's C1 is really good, but bringing up Eula invariable demands a
>Physical
so the point is moot unfortunately.

I'm coping that we get a Lunar Superconduct that has a 400% Phys. RES shred or something. It wouldn't even be that broken since we have only 1 (one) designated Phys. DPS in the entire game.
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>>719442331
>>719443098
Neither of these characters have any use.
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>>719440038
>>719440083
I am both of these people
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>>719443098
lawachurl NOW
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>>>/vg/
>>>/vmg/
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>>719443232
All I'm saying is that Eula deserves one good designated support and she's golden. And if they're worried about Lunar autism running away with things, then they could always make a Physical version of Chevy/Nilou/Escoffier instead.
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>>719436579
Elaborate I quit when natlan hit because the game was boring me to tears
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>>719436848
Fgo is based though genshin is for trannies
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>>719443950
they added C9
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>>719443950
>doing the same thing for 4 years before realizing you weren't having fun
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>>719437081
If it was just a "100 extra flat attack buff" I wouldn't give a shit.,but transformative reactions and HP scaling characters are tied to the character's level, which upsets me a lot. Some transformative reactions and HP damage scalers carry certain characters that otherwise would be straight up unusable. This shit is unnacceptable.
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>>719444052
You can't be serious
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>>719438919
>>writes "don't touch me" on the omurice
That's clearly savanna
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>>719439760
C6 isnt enough, you need C9 for level 100
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>>719444129
>HP scaling characters
HP and Defense scaling from 90 to 100 is gutted. It's roughly a 7% gain for all three main stats.
>transformative reactions
The only relevant one is Raiden because there is no other team comp other than the upcoming Lauma + Raiden that actually benefits massively from level 100. If anything you should be happy because this is at least a noticeable boost to extremely niche characters like Sethos.
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>>719444374
When you put it like that, it doesn't sound like something to actively push for even as a whale, people with c24 Diluc rejoice
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>>719444374
>It only works on Raiden
God forbid you ever decide to play non meta characters fo fun such as thoma, lynette or mizuki. Screw paying $2000 each banner just to be able to do that
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>>719444270
>That's clearly savanna
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>>719444667
>さ
Sa
>わ
wa, or va
>ん
n
>な
na
>さわんな
savanna
You know I'm right :^)
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>>719444334
I meant it like I've gotten way more Dehya dupes past C6 (maybe like C10 or C11) so I'm well within that ballpark.
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>lvl 100
Does this game got PvP yet?
I don't even bother leveling my characters because the story is piss easy.
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>>719444650
>play non meta with trash unit
Sure, go build Arima Kinen Haru Urara and tell me its achievable as F2P in day one.
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>>719444812
Dehya coin was the right call.
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>>719443753
>A Genshin Player What The Gameplay Looks Like
???
Genshit is about the only gacha that could pass as a real game
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>>719444906
No pvp. End game currently rewards horizontal investment, getting more characters instead of building one busted one.
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>>719444906
PvP soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Emb-VVcHI
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>tfw the lvl 100 stuff can't bother me because I artificially cap myself at AR 45 and level 80
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>>719444978
Unlike in Uma where I can grind for perfect parents to make Urara win Arima Kinen, i cant grind for C7+ 5*, you fucking stupid imbecile.
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>>719445195
>Hoyo roblox
That's it's own thing.
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>>719443950
They increase character lvl cap to lvl 100. In order to upgrade you need specific tokens. You can get tokens from dupes of any c6 5* characters(e.g you roll a dupe of qiqi who is at c6 you get 1 token). The token is universal and can be use on all 5* characters. This new upgrade is manly done to give rolling standard dupes characters a new purpose. As standard dupes are usually useless to long time players and whales. They are also nice enough to compensate you on tokens base on your entire roll history so far. Whales will have a huge amount of tokens once the new version starts while f2p players gets nothing because lol.
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>>719445215
So, can your Haru Urara get first place in next Gemini cup or you going to complained that people who paid more money can get better carats reward than people that spend nothing just like in genshin?
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>>719437336
The way it works is after you get a 5* to C6, you get a level up item every time you get a con for that 5*.
The level cap item can be used on any character, and it automatically brings them to level 95 (use 1) and then to 100 (use 2 more).
So yes, you can make Bennett level 100 first.
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>>719445272
Dw about that. It's still Genshin
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>>719445215
Using Uma is the worst example. You also have to roll multiple dupes to increase base stats of your horse. In fact, the 'get cons of characters you already have' is also similar to Ume.
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>>719445215
>>719444650
So what happen after your Thoma reach level 100?
Does the match check out so you can beat C0 Mavuika in end game content or you just being retarded as usual?
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>>719445278
Honestly my only real worry/care about the lvl.100 increase is the balance getting changed around it. If it doesn’t, I don’t really care. Give me my 2 yearly Jean cons and I’m happy.
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>>719445278
>The token is universal and can be use on all 5* characters
Not 4 stars? Really? I care so much less now lol.
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>>719445462
The only thing right now that requires hyper investment is Stygian Onslaught where you're rewarded limited time* skins. LImited time meaning that the game takes them away after awhile so fuck you for spending I guess.
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>>719445547
Nta but I'm pretty sure 4* can also use it
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>>719445414
Problem is in Genshin dupes barely mean anything because the content already got default wall stats to clear so you only need to grind relic and any supports, in Uma you fight against whales with OP cards and OP uma with powercreep unique skills.
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>>719445462
1. They could give away the token in events.
2. The 5 free standard cons per year is enough for oldfag f2ps to get at least a couple tokens per year even if you don't roll.
3. Balance won't change that much, level 100 is less of a boost than an R1 for most characters.

Basically people are crying for literally no reason.
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>>719445578
and the primogem rewards actually piss easy to get compare to abyss and that bullshit end game that forced to you to build multiple characters you hates to play with.
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>>719445462
You can take ZZZ for how hoyo cater to F2P as a prime example, that game might be the sweatiest hoyo game to date, The ZZZ Tower basically can OHKO every single one of you character, it got cheevos for doing 100 floors and beyond but the actual "primogems" reward only given to the first 30 which easly can be cleared even by casual.
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>>719445547
I'm not really sure. They never state 4* usage on the stream so it might be possible but it's retard to use something gained from a 5* on a 4*.
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>>719445462
Lv100 is pretty much a cosmetic. It's there so your extra cons are worth a little more than nothing.
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>>719446131
>It's there so your extra cons are worth a little more than nothing.
This is pretty much it. Some long time players, unlucky(or I guess you could say lucky now) players and whales will all benefit. It's basically a consolation prize for losing your 50/50 to a standard banner character you don't care about.
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>>719446113
>but it's retard to use something gained from a 5* on a 4*.
No it's not because transformative reactions gain the most and they don't care about 4 or 5 star scalings. Kuki would mog almost every 5 star in gains from level 100.
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>>719446291
Yeah it bewilders me why this has gotten people's jimmies rustled. I guess it shows who are the nu-gacha gamers, though to be fair Genshin does attract that lot.
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>>719446312
Yeah, but they need to create the game centered on those reaction for a long time, just look at dendro, people calling it the most broken reaction and can kill the game during Sumeru patch, now it literally on the same level of Cyro before Skirk banner came out.
My benched Ayaka suddenly replaced my C2 Nahida team for the last couple month because of this.

Just admit it, the meta changed depend on what hoyo want to, stats be dammed when they make a new mobs that can kill old "broken" shit to the ground.
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>>719446452
It's valid criticisms for games that aren't Genshin. As of now, Genshin is a single player affair with no pvp. Could there be pvp in the future with guilds and such? Maybe, but those don't exist now and we have no idea what entails with those new multiplayer features. But right now, it doesn't matter. And if you played Genshin, you'd know the game doesn't and hasn't really changed in its lifecycle.
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>>719446770
>people calling it the most broken reaction and can kill the game during Sumeru patch, now it literally on the same level of Cyro before Skirk banner came out.
Those "people" were stupid though, why are you citing retards? From day 1 smart people like me were saying it has a low ceiling of damage.
>my C2 Nahida
Oh, you're a retard yourself lmao. Checks out.
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>>719446913
Man, I was wrong expecting a serious discussion in this place.
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>>719446954
You're also arguing meta in a single player game.
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>>719446770
>Just admit it, the meta changed depend on what hoyo want to
100% THIS!
>Make broken gay dragon
>new mobs either immune/resist to hydro or got bullshit shield that need certain element to clear it
Neuv usage literally drop to 20% most of the time in Natlan.
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>>719445414
Uuma Dupes are a meme. It does a marginal increase to the base stat, they're only relevant to get the ult upgrade at 3 stars.

>>719445460
>Nooooo you're only supposed to play meta characters! We are supposed to gatekeep a basic mechanic such as leveling up as whalebait! Dawei! Do something against him! Mommy!!!!
Idiot
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>>719447027
I'm actually against it because the meta mostly just bullshit that changed depend on whatever the devs want.
There will be no true broken DPS character if they keep changing the rule each month.
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>>719447197
>Uuma Dupes are a meme. I
LMAO, Mejiro Ryan skill literally a must for end close/late in last Taurus cup and you can only get them by having dupes.
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>>719445361
Haru Urara is going to get used to counter Narita Taishins ult in the next Gemini Cup. So yes, you can use her to get first place as a debuffer.
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>>719447197
>play support chacracter
>complain why it play like shit
Build me a Haru Urara Gemini cup A rank finale winner in next tournament then.
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>Fighting indoors in Natlan
>Switch to literally any Natlan character
>Get sent flying/start climbing a random wall and my camera is now giving me a prostate exam
I'd say I can't wait for Nod Krai so this shit can stop, but I'm probably the least excited I've ever been for a new region.
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>>719447441
doesn't it only do that if you're sprinting
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>>719447369
>BWAAH~ WHY I CAN;'T BUILD MY SUPPORT TOHMA AS META!
>Actually haru urara is a front debuffer that, you are not supposed to build her as carry
lmao, the audacity of these retards
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>>719447313
If you werent able to borrow parents you would have a point. Unlike Greedshin, Uma is quite generous both on carat freebies and mechanics for f2p, but you should know at this point that you dont have anything else to argue.

Also Ryan is a 1* character, getting her to 3 stars is piss easy and doesnt compare AT ALL to getting C9 dupes on genshin.
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Speaking of umas
>Goat Genshin
>Cow Genshin
>Deer Genshin
Horse Genshin when?
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>>719446954
You are incapable of serious discussion, idiot.
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>>719447553
Post me your PvP rank then, since its generous i bet you can beat those whales with multiple MLB card, right?
Those pople got 1200/1200/1200 all across their uma, come one show me that the game is generous enough.
>Also Ryan is a 1* character, getting her to 3 stars is piss easy
So getting extra dupes after 3* is enough but in a game without PvP you complaining about extra 10 level that won't give you any advantage in term of gacha rewards?
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>>719447483
>Mavuika refuses to get on/off her bike and rocketing up wall
>Kinich flings himself randomly across the map a million miles away
>Mualani's burst missing
The only non-annoying ones are the 4 stars, Citlali, and Xilonen. And weirdly Varessa even through she's supposed to be unwieldy fast. I guess the traversal and combat are more naturally cohesive with each other.
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>This game is generous, but I can't beat the end-game PvP because it's walled by whales because I don't spend any money.
>This game is stingy, yet I can get all the rewards without paying anything like those level 100 whales.
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>>719447596
UGC, but I expect it will be full of DOta-like game because of SEA.
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>>719447483
If you're sprinting, a second or so after you dodge, or if you're doing some Nightsoul things. The movement gimmicks in Natlan are just annoying and janky in general.
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>>719447723
Fortunately for me, Class 6 isnt gatekept by whales. And I get to enjoy from the MLB Biko Pegasus a whale on my friendlist has. Genshin would never.
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>this is one of the lowest rank 50th.
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why the fuck are people posting png simulator screenshots in this thread
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>>719444041
true lol, both are mixed toliet gacha but for some reason genshit are infested with rainbow trannies and homos
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>>719448324
now this is podracing
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>>719448537
>clearly standing at near of retention point
>thinking new scenario and better card won't raise the point higher.
The point range was like under 430k a month ago.
>Genshin would never.
What? making gems rewards behind P2W bullshit like level 100?
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>>719448737
So this is why they call it nightSOVL...
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>>719438562
Dendro is the sex element.
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>>719448761
Uma actually better in term of "gameplay", but people are fucking retarded if they called it generous.
I literally spend $100+ and onl get 2LB kitasan from sparks, and multiple guts SSR cards, that game is fucking rigged as fuck.
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>>719448537
>only 3k carats left
kek.
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>>719437538
This reminds me of the tiktok “infinite money glitch” where black people were writing bad checks and withdrawing tens of thousands in cash from atms then freaking out when they had negative balances in their checking accounts.
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>>719436579
The lvl 100 doesn't do much outside of transformative reactions and those are far behind the meta currently, so I wouldn't call it "inexplicable greed" or whatever the shitposters are using. It gives an okay reward for extra dupes (if you're unlucky or an old player this also affects you). My main grip is that they wasted the level 100, a cool core mechanic on this, now that was shitty design, it could be a way to revamp old characters and give them new talents and touch or create something else, instead they're giving constellations for free for the old chars and letting the lvl 100 be a nothingburger for the vast majority.
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>>719448901
Also
>inb4 just rent the MLB
If I do that I can't rent Creek for CM.
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>>719449181
Yeah they kinda fucked it up. The only thing I like is that you don't need to spend 9999999999 resin leveling to 100 lol, they made that aspect easy.
Honestly I've been hoarding resources all this time just because I guessed lv100 was coming and that it would cost a fucking fortune. I guess I can level up my 4 stars more now, especially since there's a new theatre mode.
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>>719449331
>>719449181
I agree that level 100 is wasted because there’s no real content where it’s really necessary and they only implemented it because the game has tons of whales who pull multiple constellations and lose their 50/50, so they wanted to reward those whales for investing in the game.
My best alternative would be giving those characters a unique skin for reaching over C6, but I also feel that would cause even bigger backlash than level 100 for F2P.
This is why Stygian cosmetics only exist for a limited time.
They need to chose the balance between giving whales more rewards without fucking up F2P rewards too.
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>People are hating Columbina because she is (you) bait
All the better for me.
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>>719436579
They created a third world region based on america meets africa with black culture to shill ZZZ which is a gacha based on black culture, and the best thing is that not only ZZZ flopped anyways, genshin flopped with it and even HSR tanked the flop since they used HSR budge to keep funding ZZZ relaunches

Go woke go broke
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>>719449181
Hoyo can and probably will revive their old transformative reactions into new meta characters, just like they ressurected overload with Chevs, crystalize with Navia and now electrocharged with Ineffa. Heck, even freeze and melt are currently the meta reactions while they were neglected for years until today. Considering that you can get 40% damage increase from level 90 to level 100 on transformative reactions and give a second air to older characters such as Nilou and Kokomi then keeping lv 100 as a whale reward is a terrible move.
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>>719437081
He's based
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>>719449775
how is she for (you)(me), i saw the live stream yesterday but is there something else
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>>719436579
It's also one of the worst garbage games to ever exist that only got popular because of covid and only trannies and third worlders still play it to this day
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>>719449826
>ven freeze and melt are currently the meta reactions
That mostly just because new support and bosses that forced you to used them.
Seriously, the meta are changing depend on buff and mobs, the character was not so much, that's why old character like Ayaka or Ganyu having a comeback this patch.
Meanwhile Dendro Reaction is still dead because shield bullshit still exist.
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>>719449612
yes, cosmetics would have been better, 1 weapon skin and 1 costume. I'm annoyed it's lvl 100 for 5 stars only, give me my lvl 100 4 stars since you're making build these chars for theater and whatever other modes you pull out your ass, hoyo
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I volunteer to be 'bina's footstool, chair, and sunshade for no monetary compensation.
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>>719450049
Seems like hoyo against making new cosmetics unless its story related tho, I can imagine they can make tons of money from it just most gacha out there.
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How much could I sell my day 1, 5 digit account for?
All archons C2, all hags
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>>719450229
*just like
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>>719449841
She gets a special room where you can interact with her and do favors for her or simply hang out with her
There is leaked dialogue (may or may not be true) that suggests "Kuutar" (likely to to be Columbina) "thinks favorably" of the Traveler and "speaks highly" of you or something.
It could be a red herring but with her push of being the region's archon equivalent, they're really pushing her.
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>>719450296
>Columbina) "thinks favorably" of the Traveler and "speaks highly" of you
That's right. Stay fucking jelly.
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tao toes
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>>719450296
ehhh lotsa people think highly of the traveler tho, he saves everyone and doesn't afraid of anything
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>>719450248
$20
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>>719438507
My tablet is 100% clean of Gacha trash, I only real games in RetroArch/Azahar
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>>719444129
>100 extra flat attack buff

You wish, it's not even that
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>>719443049
i did the same until they decided to go full rewriteslop and worldslop designed specially to shill new characters in natlan
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btfoing freefags was always part of the plan. idk why you people pretend it wasnt.
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Why are people pissed off about this level 100 shit? Instead of being pissed off about all the powercreep, and the shitty new end game they put in which is pay to win.
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>>719454349
painfully stupid
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>>719454349
level 100 is the powercreep
it's made specifically to buff lunarslop, making new characters even more powerful
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There is so much shit we dont know about level 100 yet.
The only thing we know is they changed base stat scaling from what was projected before.
We dont know if they changed anything else like reaction scaling, we dont even know if they added more skill levels.
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Do people really care that much about power creep when the reward for clearing floor 12 is about 3 days of dailies?
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>>719454349
This is why you roll for supports and only main dps you really like. Supports will always be useful. lol but seriously I am so glad I always skipped that boring faggot Kazuha.
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>>719454349
Is it over for us f2p bros?
Are utterly fucked now?
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>actually le good guy
>actually misunderstood
>SAAR REDEEMED
>defected
>your best friend
>your ally

Man, why are the Harbingers so disappointed? I'd be happy if even 50% of them are actually evil and we get to kill them. There's no actual real "le big bad". It's all "morally grey".
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>>719439864
HAHAHAHA THAT MEANS YOU'RE POOR

YOU HAVE TO C9 THE CHARACTERS BRO

ROLL FOR THE CHARACTER 10 TIMES YOU BROKEASS
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Is Mihoyo THE most generous gacha company out there? Genshin's gotta be the MOST generous game they offer, right?

I've never seen a game who's so open to the opinions and feedback of their fanbase

Their objective isn't even to make money, but to give their players everything they want, and often for free. There's barely any predatory in the game. All their updates and things they implement every patch has their players in mind, with no monetary motive behind them. The game simply doesn't want your money, they just want you to enjoy their game for free.
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>>719436579
The game was shit from the start and I don't think more of this retarded greed of them will change anything, its hilarious that some people were surprised to hear them say they wanted to keep genshin going for 10 to 20 years, of course they want to keep it going, they've been doing the same fucking shit for 4 years with the most minimal effort possible giving the least amount of fuck possible for the players and still topping the charts of gacha. It didn't commit suicide because it literally can't die, genshin players are just that retarded, they'll keep funding it
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>>719456578
what was the context for that? I agree with it though, they CLEARLY don't want money
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>>719456437
What's even more disappointing is they keep killing off the cool harbingers, while the shitty ones become playable.
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>>719456613
Probably skins
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>>719450296
It sucks that even when they do pandering like this I can't really enjoy it because the traveler is genuinely the biggest piece of shit in the entire game
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>>719456705
well it's like they balance every reward around what f2ps have(except those new weapon skins), their skins suck ass, they barely release any skins, you can get all the skins and most of the characters just paying $5 a month(or even less than that probably), they release their MASSIVE OSTs for free for some very strange reason, they don't have that much merch, and they spend like 200 million dollars on game development every year sticking to a highly autistic schedule that they haven't yet broken from(ignoring the covid lockdowns).

it's strange. they could make so much more money but they just don't.
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>>719456624
I don't care about playable if their deaths were good. Us beating Signora and then having Raiden turn her to dust was KINO and worth her not being playable. She was evil, and she deserved to get nuked.

I wish Capitano got defeated rather than being "he's actually a superior honourable man".

Not going to talk about the other Harbingers of the past who are your friends or are now good guys, but I really hope Sandrone is evil and we get to kill her. Don't care if she's playable.
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>>719456939
So they could earn more money and/or make the game better than the miserable state its in right now but they just don't do either?
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>>719456939
>they don't have that much merch
They actually do. Their merch at cons and pop-up stores are garbage. But their store on Amazon has x10 more variety than what they sell in physical storefronts. And let's not talk about China, they have x1000 more merch than shit you can imagine. You just can't buy them, unless you want to pay out your ass for shipping.
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>>719457124
Genuinely who buys these and actually wears them?
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>>719457118
>and/or make the game better than the miserable state its in right now
oh my bad
(you)

>>719457124
so in other words they don't have that much merch, basically none since it's all mid or worse
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>>719457279
Women. Women don't roll for character, but they buy tons of merch. They collect this shit even if they don't wear it in public.

>>719457289
>umm it doesn't appeal to me so it doesn't count as merch

I accept your concession.
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>>719457346
What about the male clothing?
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Why can't I just play on a local server and pirate all the characters I want?
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>>719457398
People have been doing that for years
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>>719436579
still cant tell how much level 95/100 will actually matter
and if you feel like you know for sure youre probably wrong
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>>719457449
Not on linux
https://github.com/Grasscutters/Cultivation/issues/7
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>>719457379
Genshin merch is fucking huge, and they sell literally almost everything. They have male clothing too. And for some fucking reason, it's even sold out.

You would wonder to yourself "Who buys this?", but people do enough that's it's sold out within 24 hours of release.

It wouldn't surprise me if Genshin makes half a billion a year just on merch sales.
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>>719457514
Not my problem
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>>719457536
Tell me which of these you'd buy:

>Kinich hat
>Kinich leather breastplate (???)
>Kinich shorts
>Kinich bag
>Kinich shoes

I think only the Kinich bag has any daily applicable uses.
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>>719457617
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>>719457617
>>719457647
this is gay
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>>719442204
Shenhe's and Nilou's are the only worthwhile C1s from the available options.
Hu Tao's would be too if she wasn't powercreeped to hell and back already.
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>>719456437
I'll never get to play my favorite jew Pantalone
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>>719457617
I'll stick with the classics
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>>719458042
There's no way he's playable without a vision, but if he gets one then it'd basically ruin his entire character. He's also a financier and likely won't be a combatant. Tough luck for those who like the Jew.
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>>719458017
Meh, I can cleark all of cyro req end game content now because of Skirk shilling with my C0 Ayaka with no 5* sword, so getting her to C1 is a no brainer, powercreep only matter because of buff and mobs resistance to certain element.
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>>719458153
ayaka's c1 is completely worthless
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New queen of sex just dropped.
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>>719458678
PLEASE don't be bad or reliant on three different other characters
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>>719458678
la creatura
mogged by anyone from mondstadt
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>>719458678
Dendro?
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>>719459338
yea
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FGO had a debt incident like that
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>Da Wei, sir, our data shows that players don't want to bother engaging with the game's content, what do we do?
>turn it to a dating sim
>brilliant
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>Level 100 limiteds for whales
This has got to be one of the worst ideas they have come up with in a long time.
I hope that this isn't one of those features that gets added to their other games over time.
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>>719459542
you're a fucking indian faggot
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>>719458678
Only character I plan to roll for... and I guess the deer slut if she buffs the fuck out of this seamen demon.
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>>719459542
Pregnant Nahida!
>But
Don't care, She's pregnant to me.
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>>719458616
Better than nothing, She's my only Cyro DPS.
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>>719460232
>snek tongue blowjob
>deer titjob
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>>719460154
Nah, the worst idea is new character only exclusive battle related global passive like what happen in shartrail.
Also at least new reaction actually buff old characters, their new path literally killing their old one while also making old 5* weapons useless for new characters.
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>>719438507
It's amazing, really. Warframe for the fast action. Skyrim for slower action and trillions of mods and every waifu you could ask for and now ai voices. FF14 base version if you need to scratch an MMO itch. No dailies, no fomo, just play when it feels good because it feels good, with just a little investment.

People are as addicted to the gacha community/hype as much or more than the game itself. The false-scarcity pits us against each other, saying X waifu is worse than Y, because most of us can't afford to have them all, and so we have to defend our choices...man. Gacha can't be outlawed soon enough.
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>>719457398
You wouldnt steal a waifu
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>>719460154
Getting Skirk and Mavuika's signature weapons is a bigger upgrade than going to level 100 and people were in tears over this
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How do I add another Genshin account on PC? Just built a new rig after Hoyo announced they were retiring the PS4 version last month. I want to add my sister’s account since she barely plays, and I probably won’t be using my PS4 anymore.
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>>719436579
gacha games are disqualified from being compared to any other kind of video games
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Level 100 should help with DPS since there's a damage demerit attached to level difference. So if you're twenty levels below what you're fighting, you do less damage while taking more. In the Spiral Abyss, the strongest enemies are level 100, meaning there's a 10 level demerit if you're level 90. But if your DPS is level 100, then that demerit disappears completely. In Stygian Onslaught, the enemy level goes up to 105, meaning a 15 level demerit. So at level 100, that demerit is reduced to just five levels.
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>>719463428
Main screen I guess
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>>719463867
Chinese forum schizos say that level 100 will still consider you to be level 90 for the purpose of damage calculations
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It's funny how they're seemingly exempting Archons from free cons even though half of them are kinda outdated. Granted, Venti can't be saved even at C6, but this does kinda hurt Zhongli and Raiden.
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>>719463867
People who already cleared highest Stygian won't need that level 100.
Abyss pretty much team comp check and Genshin comp check is much easier than star rail, that game literally killed every single one of their old character including the 5*.
They literally buff multiple 1.x characters because of this complain meanwhile people in genshin complaining they can't escape the national meta.
You guys are freaking lunatic who keep complaining about opposite things over and over again.
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>>719464218
Venti and Zhong problem is not about their kit, but their element fucking sucks.
Geo pretty much just a glorified Physical which been dead since forever.
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>>719464218
They've already been doing this with chronicle banners as well, Raiden ran alongside the Inazuma chronicle banner and next patch Nahida is running as a standalone banner alongside the Sumeru banner
Even if half of the archons don't really hold up to standards Hoyo clearly still considers them to be iconic or good enough to be worthy of their own banners
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>>719464345
A different element wouldn't save Zhongli considering how his kit works. His towers are fucking useless, and his DPS would be low no matter what element he was. But C2 has his burst grant a shield and C3 would make his shield a little tankier.
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>>719464235
Star rail is so shit old units can't even use their "weapons" anymore cause they are outclassed by new ones not even made for them
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>>719460608
>plays Warframe and FF14
>thinks he's better than gachafags
LMAOing my ass off. These are bigger time sinks than anything in gacha
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>>719464498
Zhong got def shred and if he can trigger vape or melt it would be OP as fuck during his launch banner, he also can complement Attack buff if he's pyro, but because he's Geo he will be a buff minus in non Geo team.
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>>719464541
Remembrance unit might be the most jewish update ever, not only each new characters basically just old path with fancy name but also makes the old LC useless so people need to build or buy new LC instead of using the old one.
Jing yuan literally a freaking Remembrance unit and exist since 1.x
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>>719456578
>>719456613
>>719456705
It's a meme in the Chinese community because Genshin rarely makes skins for their characters, and most of the time the skins are given away for free during events. They could easily make one new $10 skin per patch (40 days) and make one extra billion per year but they just refuse to do so.
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>>719436579
It's funny, I think it would've been well received if they'd removed everything about lv 100 entirely. That one feature is just so egregiously poorly done it's stealing all the attention.
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>>719465602
Skins are partly welkin bait. If you buy welkin every single month, you will always have just barely enough to buy a new 5-star skin.
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>>719465692
It's just a needless extra since I doubt they'll balance the game around it.
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>>719465739
He's talking about other gacha, its a common thing outside of genshin.
Even during 1.x launch people were complaining about the lack of cosmetic so the only thing whale and dolphin do is buying multiple weapon as skins.
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I need some technical help and im not sure if watching a 25 min youtube guide will solve it. I got mualani and xilonen. Mualani wants an ever presence of pyro aura for her to vape her attacks. But if i use xilonen to support her, in order to get the buff from her artiact set, i need to do a hydro crystalize reaction, right? What are the characters people are using to vape with mualani, and what do they do so that xilonen buff hydro instead of pyro?
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>>719465692
Like I said before, its a lazy implement just to rewards whale who got tons of extra cons from failing 50/50, people who already got tons of dupes from actually paying won't even need them to clear the end game and F2P actually can finish any gachabux rewards requerment easly unless they got brain damage like using Diluc in current electro and cyro shilling meta.
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>>719465840
The way I figure, if they released skins with greater regularity, it'd just make people more cautious and hesitant about which ones they get. Near as I can tell, paid skins aren't super common in gacha games. FGO gives them away for free, for instance.
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>>719465934
We literally just getting drama from another chink gacha who sell skin at a cost of AAA game.
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I'm bummed out about skins having to be "lore conform".
just gimme some goofy shit, man
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>>719466036
I hope you buying Klee's skin.
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>>719465975
So what you're saying is it was controversial. Gacha games already charge exorbitant prices for top-ups, so I'd imagine that setting prices for skins carries a stronger degree of risk than it would for something like League of Legends.
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>>719466095
No, I'm saying is that genshin got lot of chance to sell people skin for character their simp.
Raiden Mei literally got zero new skins for example but they decide not too, honestly I think this game is more chill compare to other gacha but people expect them to act like one including the greedy monetization.
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>>719466086
I DON'T HAVE KLEE
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>>>/trash/
Not video games.
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>>719437081
These lv100 character boosts are irrelevant for actual players. If you're unhappy that gigawhales are getting more of an advantage over normal people then you haven't been paying attention, C6 limited teams are already something like 8-10x the DPS of C0R0 teams, the gap is so absurd that they cannot make content designed for gigawhales and the only thing in the game you can even use a C6 limited team on is Dire stygian. If you whale on gachas you ruin the gacha for yourself because the content will not longer be enjoyable to play
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>>719465926
You apply Hydro, use Xilo E, use Sucrose to swirl before the Hydro drops off if you're running Sucrose, then you pop your off-field Pyro and do your thing. There are multiple choices for off-field Pyro and they all have their own issues, applying Hydro also has its own issues depending on the weapon you're using for Mualani so there are lots of considerations

Here's a Furina+Dehya team which turns Furina off to allow vapes. If your only Hydro is Mualani then you apply Hydro with a basic attack first to react with it
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>>719465926
>What are the characters people are using to vape with mualani,
Mavuika
Pyro Traveller (it's actually good for this)
Xiangling
Dehya
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>>719465926
I got R1 for Xilonen and just buff pyro kek. You can use two hydros to help with that though.
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>>719467558
saar...
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>>719436579
I heard they updated their security/anticheat in the latest patch, is taht true?
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Wait there's a new element what
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>>719468910
All they did was update the eula.
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>>719436579
so is the "death of genshin" in the room with us right now?
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>>719439849

>he doesnt know how to play Preglani Team

1. Make Enemy Wet (!) with Preglani
2. Def Shred with Xilonen Attack
3. Swirl Hydro affected Enemy with Succrose
4. Activate Bikeslop Skill
5. Attack with Preglani

Protipp: Bikeslop Pyro Burst works on Pyro Wayob Natlan Shield.
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>>719436579
FGO is still a behemoth despite comical levels of greed and absurdly low quality in anything not Nasu's writing. Genshin will be fine.
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>>719436579
Unmeshed tip
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>>719468910
Yeah something was changed. There has been some hacking going around lately that lets someone do instant max damage in co-op and ruins the damage record/achievement of unsuspecting players (customer support has to manually reset it for those that contact them). Because of the anti-cheat change one of the main apps used for skin modding that has been fine for years is now getting flagged for some users and forcing them to relaunch the game (no bans though so it might not be intentionally targeting skin modding).
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Lads, how do I beat the papilla in Fearless Onslaught? I'm trying with the standard Mavuika team (Mavuika-Xilonen-Bennett-Citlali), but at best he still has 25-30% HP left.
How do I properly build Mavuika? I tried a more standard attack build (pic related, with a cope sword that still kinda does the job), which performs a little bit better than an EM focused one with the 4* event flower sword, but either way I can't do shit.
Bennett is using his noble set same as always, Xilonen her scroll set, Citlali+TTDS is coping with gilded dreams set (I don't have the right instructor pieces yet) though I don't think it'll be such a drastic difference.
Any advice or a good alternative team for this boss? (without involving a Chasca that I don't have)
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>>719471287
i love mona so much
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>>719437538
Hoyo is too big to be under tencent
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>>719471859
Are you melting properly or just doing donuts?
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>>719437538
>using gookware
gooks are petty like this
i hope America wins and nukes the 3 gorges dam
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>>719472027
nah I'm not doing simple donuts, I'm dashing to get more melts and shit, it helps but it doesn't change the face of world. Also tried the method where you do two circles, dash, attack, and do two circles, dash, etc repeat, but doesn't help much, and doesn't seem suited to his shield anyway (more suited when the shield is down).
I honestly don't know what I'm doing wrong, when I watch a run on YT, it seems so easy with this team, and with non-busted builds, yet I fail miserably. I just don't understand.
No issue with the other two bosses.
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So I read we're getting a free Stella Fortuna in 6.0 that can be used on 25 characters? Do we have the complete list of the 25 characters?
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>>719472628
>So I read we're getting a free Stella Fortuna in 6.0
Completely free? No, it's from an ingame event
>Each event duration is 12 weeks (2 patches since 1 patch is 6 weeks)
>Select a character whose constellation you want sort of like how you chart a course for a specific weapon on the weapon banner
>For 8 of those 12 weeks you must meet what Hoyo calls the 'weekly training goal'
>Weekly training goal consists of spending 120 resin and claiming rewards for 4 commissions (basically just doing regular dailies) for at least 5 out of 7 days in one week
>Constellations can only be claimed once per character
The eligible characters are the ones in the pic the other anon posted
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>>719472716
>Completely free?
>No, it's from an ingame event
Dude, weed... lmao.
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>>719469804
>A FUCKING BIKE
The problem with bikeslop is that the longer duration of Mav's skill keeps applying pyro long after Mualani is done, which extends your rotation because you can't reapply Hydro to swirl it. You see Mav used a lot but that's because showcases all have ubergeared / high investment teams which kill in one rotation. As soon as you need multiple rotations to clear a floor the bike becomes a liability.
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>>719472801
If it was free and required no effort it'd be sent in the mail like the anniversary gifts
You have to make an active effort and play the game to get the free constellation, even if the required activities essentially just are doing regular dailies
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>>719450067
So, since Nod Krai doesn't have any Archon, she'll be the inevitable Archon-tier character of the 6.x patches, right?
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>>719472886
dude....
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>>719436579
Can I get a quick rundown on lvl100?
I thought everyone always wanted this but the reception seems negative as hell for some reason.
I quit genshin almost six months ago.
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>>719472905
Most definitely, although it does look like she was just quickly pasted into the background they even added her to the annual anniversary art with the archons
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>>719472921
Its the same shit just like getting character to c6, there still no real content to warrant them
>inb4 stygian cosmetic
They make it limited time so in the end whale still mad because devs still cater to F2P instead of letting them boast their their account with exclusive limited skin that stay forever.
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>>719466608
I hope you are right. As a low spender I already struggle plenty (and fail) to clear the last two styg onslaughts to get the final feather out of it.
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>>719472921
It requires an item you get from getting additional copies of a character beyond C6 (standard characters also count) so it's realistically something only like 1% of the players will get
There's some misinformation going around about how big of an upgrade it actually is in terms of stats, in reality it uses separate scaling and doesn't unlock any new passives so it's basically just a cosmetic upgrade
People don't like being told they can't get to the highest level without paying or getting extremely unlucky over the course of several years and similarly it also means there's no hope for old and terrible characters getting a facelift or indirect buff as a consequence of the level increase
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>new game mode catering to whales
>new level upgrade catering to whales
>new region with gimmicky mechanics that require a whole new party
WTF is Dawei thinking?
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>>719472921
It is locked behind getting C6+ characters. Basically every con past C6 gives you an item you can give to a character to raise them to lv.95, then two more C6+ pulls and you can go from 95 to 100.
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>>719473310
*C6+ 5-star characters.
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>>719473310
Only from C6 5* chars mind you
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>>719473216
>new game mode catering to whales
Primogem rewards literally easier than abyss 11.
>new level upgrade catering to whales
More useless than getting character to C6 which giving 80% to 150% dps boost already without lvl 100.
>new region with gimmicky mechanics that require a whole new party
Why do you need new characters to became Saurian?
If you want to bait just said "Powercreep mobility in normal region"
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>>719472921
the material for lvl100 requires pulling any extra copy of a 5* character after C6. If you're new, F2P, and/or get too "lucky" from 50/50s, you're not getting much of that shit for a while.
Personally I was hoping level 100 would be a great chance to give old characters significant buffs but that doesn't seem to be what's happening here
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>>719473504
I mean Stygian Onslaught, it rewards weapon skins not primos
And Nod Krai requires a party focused on dealing lunar dmg or whatever, just an excuse to force players to roll for derivative characters with the new gimmick
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Any people who have 100%-ed Natlan know whether it had any Khaenrian lore in it?
The place only has Khaenrian mechs in Ochkanatlan and one specific cave in the miner area.
But Khaenrians literally did the same thing as the Dragons and condensed elemental energy into a mineral to power their place, then made power cores out of it which made sentient machines possible. They even reverse-engineered Saurians and made robots which draw in the elements used by the opponent just like geo-saurians in Liyue, hydro-saurians in Fontaine/Enkanomiya and pyro-saurians in Natlan (though these rather evolve into the element and stick to it).

We're talking about a nation of people willing to bore into and murder Atlanteans for a book about the world before Heavenly Principles and the 7 gods, it doesn't make sense for them not to have been assaulting Natlan 24/7 for all the pre-Heavenly Principle artifacts, tech and writings. You can't take a piss in Natlan without randomly uncovering a letter which would have gotten Orobashi executed 50 times over.
Do the AIs in the mountain talk about Khaenrians trying to punch into their little gardens or steal shit from the island?

Obviously this is Khaenrian lore, not the stuff about Captain coming over to help Natlan during the Cataclysm or the girl looking for Tabibito down by the volcano.
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>>719473581
If you are lucky to have a bunch you should be using it on the most meta units, using a whale only resource to slightly unbrick old units is a waste
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>>719473581
>you're not getting much of that shit for a while.
None of F2P getting C6 either and i don't see people complaining, I remember people keep calling whale retarded for having their character and weapon dupes to the max when the gachabux rewards can be easly get just by using 0 dupes characters, now suddenly you guys goes batshit when they only getting skin that last for one patch.
>>719473635
Cosmetic is limited and you basically complaining about Sumeru all over again, you will get free character that can trigger Lunar charged.
Or don't tell me you will never pull single character during Nod patch just like you don't pull any new character in Sumeru?
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>>719473067
As Welkin only I think Stygian is great because Fearless seems to be tuned just right to let you do it with C0R0 teams as long as you have the right characters and sweat a bit
I tend to pull C0R0 of most characters and never pull cons or weapons (except for this ONE time in 1.3 when walnut was clearly OP), so Fearless is like perfectly balanced endgame content for me
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>>719473640
Natlan is explicitly the furthest place from Khaenrian/Heavenly Principal nonsense, largely fo in part to it being controlled by the Dragon Sovereigns for far longer than any other region and it being the region that is closest to the Abyss. The Captain’s choice to flee in the direction of Natlan and the nation’s general lack of nails suggest that it’s always been the hardest region for the Heavenly Principals to police.
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>>719473581
>and/or get too "lucky" from 50/50s
Yep, that's me. I won't be seeng any level 100 character for a long time even though I've been playing since 1.0.
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>>719473890
Sumeru introduced a new element that brought a lot on new gameplay combos to the table
Lunar charge is just region only crap like the pneuma/ousia in Fontaine
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>>719473974
> webm
my eyes
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>>719474049
Sure, that still doesn't changed the argument, you will get one welfare character for new region just like before , more if you decide to pull for characters.
Some retards also complaining that Dendro basically just a better Anemo back then and exist to sell more characters, seriously there's no winning in this argument people like you will always exist.
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>>719474204
Im a day one player and Im getting tired of Mihoyo being greedy and lazy
Instead of introducing a new abyss element and get us to Sneedzaya we are getting a shitty detour in a region with new mechanics that would be swept under the rug in a year
It has been 5 years, Mihoyo should either overhaul the game or finish it already because other gachas are eating their cake
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>>719474134
>he level all characters instead of focus on two DPS first
kek, this take me back during launch day.
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>>719474134
They should swap Loom for Sucrose, and start equipping artifacts with desired mainstats.
Also, go the fuck back.
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>>719474443
They will never do that unless Tevyat chapter is closing.
Just look at their Honkai game, they might be lazy but calling greedy in gacha standard is fucking retarded seeing I currently playing the new global launch horse sim game.
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>>719444129
>This shit is unnacceptable.
It's GATCHASHIT. Everything about it is unacceptable.
These threads always make me laugh. What kind of mental illness is this?
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>>719437538
Okay but how is it the players fault? If you leave an exploit in your game then people are gonna use it, it's not like they used cheats or external software. A Shit load of games have item duplication glitches, shit wavedashing in Smash is technically a glitch. As long as it is within the confines of the game it should be fair game.
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>>719474041
I'm a daywonner and I think I only have a C7 or C8 Qiqi, so I can get at least 1 character to 95 and that's about it unless I keep losing 50/50s to Qiqi specifically, or waste my Anniversary pick on her to get 1 more copy of the limit break item.
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>>719444129
In a week when the actual details are revealed and it turns out there's a separate scaling specifically to avoid this you will feel like a retard (because you are) and you will pretend you never made this post
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>>719474443
>other gachas are eating their cake
No one else comes even close.
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>>719449093
Tell more, sounds funny
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>>719473216
This is the best genshin update ever. They should add more levels in the near future and milk these playerbase harder than when the players milk themselves while looking at nahida.
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>calling new end game mode greedy
>When the currency rewards fight it actually easier than abyss
>When the final rewards actually shitting on whale that spend thousand of bucks each month by only giving them shitty SFX that only last a single patch rotation.
Why FREE2POOR so fucking retarded?
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>>719474001
Yeah, but the last dragon sovereigns got fucked 2000 years ago. Khanerians were free to turn the place upside down for 1500 years before they got fucked by Heaven (天).

Also, Khaenria is beneath Sumeru desert. It is not furthest away from Natlan, these guys are literally closer to Natlan than that holiday resort of theirs.
And they have dedicated subterranean diggers to get anywhere in Teyvat anyway.
Hence why I find the lack of any lore related to them really weird. But with the machines peppered around Ochkanatlan, I was at least hoping they had some in-lore explanation for it.
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Don't care about meta nonsense. I just want to explore the new are and having dates with Columbina.
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I believe in Dendro woman supremacy
And yes I do own Emilie
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>>719475040
kek, imagine if this was reversed.
The shitty round that cater F2P team gave you a useless cosmetic that only lasts a month and the highest difficulty needs a full C6 Archon team just to give a meager amount of primogems, which aren’t even worth much for whale accounts.
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>>719475040
As someone who actually cleared Dire, this is pretty much my experience. Like, it definitely feels great to overcome the challenge and check out the weapon skins for a bit, but there's nothing more to it beyond maybe flexing on /gig/ or whatever. Anybody having meltdowns about SO is either a legit shitter who can't even beat Fearless, or someone who's extremely susceptible to FOMO and shouldn't be playing this game in the first place.

Honestly, I'd rather they give you 2-4 bonus Dust of Enlightenment than a weapon skin if it's really "catering to whales" like these people allege.
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>>719475613
Mihoyo must be getting complained from tons of whale accounts during survey saying that they got shit tons of C6 characters but no content for them.
So this is basically their answer to those whales without shitting on F2P community, I mean seriously whale often getting laugh at for building the most OP account but in then, end game still can be beaten by 4* characters from 1.x era.
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Sooo... Which constellation should I get? This is my current list so far.
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>>719476146
I'm just picking all the standards so I can get closer to the level material, most of the constellations for the actual characters are utter garbage and do nothing to help unbench them
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>check if i can get masterless fortuna
>only mona is c6
>rest of the standard chars are c4 or 5
damn it's over.
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>>719476146
Nilou if you're planning to get Lauma.
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>>719476263
Hoyo made the decision making easy for me by excluding all the characters I actually have so my only choices are the 7 standard characters and Nilou
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>>719476248
The only thing that can unbench a character is when they released a new character that will get similar buff and monster weaknesses benefit to old one like Skirk with Ayaka for example.
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>>719475040
See the thing is it the complaints have nothing to do with logic. This goes all the way back to the launch of the game when most people were struggling with Abyss while whales were easily clearing it so they complained without realizing that no amount of monetary investment is ever going to pay off in this game. If you spend $100 for a double top-up bonus it's only going to average out to a single extra banner character and that character is never going to get you $100 worth of primogems that you couldn't have gotten otherwise.

This is about entitlement and the people who don't spend anything are always the loudest and whiniest when it comes to feeling like they deserve something. Does level 100 actually matter in the meta? Outside of a single team which isn't even available yet no. No it doesn't. In a vast majority of team comps it's a smaller power spike than a single good constellation or banner weapon.
>>719475872
>Mihoyo must be getting complained from tons of whale accounts during survey saying that they got shit tons of C6 characters but no content for them.
That's what Dire 2 is for. It's more likely that this is about standard characters being dead pulls for whales and miHoYo wanting to give those characters value. As it currently stands every time they lose the coin flip they essentially gain nothing(whales aren't using standard characters and they don't care about the Starglitter because they're whales.) Turning standard characters into power for other characters solves that and it makes the yearly free standard 5* and the upcoming welfare constellations valuable for everyone even if you don't give a shit about the characters because at least it's pushing you closer to c6.
>>719476146
Anniversary freebie - Mona or Jean.
Welfare constellations - Jean and Mona. The other two are going to depend on who you use. Shenhe's c1 lowers ER requirements. Dehya's c2 makes her what she should have been baseline. Hu Tao's c1 removes jump cancel nonsense.
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>>719476379
Either that or a complete overhaul which they most definitely won't bother doing
Them trying to make a big deal out of some constellations for old benchwarmers and presenting it like some kind of generous gift has completely killed any hope of old characters ever getting the facelift they need
C0 or C1 makes no difference for someone like Yoimiya and Albedo
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>>719437538
Now that's just stupid. Why didn't they just patch it asap?
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>>719476146
Hutao C1
C1 & Road to C2:
Shenhe
Nilou
Keq to C6
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>>719476468
it mostly just for people to simp for certain characters, they basically confirmed that old banner rerun is no more or freaking rare as fuck so this is will help people who want to pull for those banner without paying a single cent or waiting too long.
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>>719436579
It's just not fun anymore
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>>719476146
None of those constellations are worth much
Nilou's C1 is worthless, C2 is very good though but you can only claim one so you know
For Yae, there's a non-zero chance Nefer might be some kind of Lunar-Quicken character and in that case Yae will be decent again
Jean/Mona will obviously give you Nameless Stellas which might be more valuable than any individual constellation
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>>719436579
im still playing
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>players want an interesting fun to play endgame mode
>hmm how about... fighting bosses on a timer!
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>>719437538
>>Tencent says "next time don't cheat, assholes" to everyone in the red
Instead of just deleting their accounts?
Actually kind of lenient of them.
What's the game like? I might download it. Story any good?
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>>719476446
>This goes all the way back to the launch of the game when most people were struggling with Abyss
kek, I remember these retards calling Genshin P2W during launch because of abyss, how their lvl 60-70 character can finish the final floor in the first couple weeks.
Meanwhile I'm just doing comfy exploration and grinding slowly and done clear my abyss run two months later with only Klee and Qiqi as my only 5*, all level 90 dps with lvl 60 supports.
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>>719476626
>You want us, a trillion dollar company, to make content for our video game?! FUCK YOU, go make your own content instead!
At this point my only hope of a true roguelike game mode (IT was a disappointment) is that some guy spends half a year making it in the roblox game mode and even then there's no guarantee we'll even be able to use the characters and builds we have on our main game account
The UGC is going to be a colossal waste of time when they realise no one outside of their existing playerbase will want to touch it due to it being made by the evil chinese gambling game creators
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>>719476719
>Can't finish
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>>719476669
I'm not even sure what game he's actually talking about because Tencent doesn't own Genshin nor FGO which are the games people have brought up in response to that post
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>>719476757
lmao, mihoyo are nothing compare to tech giant like Tencent and that fucker literally exist in most western gaming franchise. you are fucking delusional.
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>>719438507
Same. I sacrificed my main Google account and redid my auth for any other site connected to that Google just so that I could lock myself out of the account after starting genshin’s delete timer. And then I was finally free.
I do really, really wish some game would copy the “switching between 4 characters in the same place, elemental reactions” mechanics though. I liked it a lot and only other copycat gachas do it.
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>>719476626
>retard
You're either a shitter or a whale. Dire has just the right level of tuning where it allows you to succeed even without extremely high investment so long as you're willing to sweat a bit on optimization. Figuring out what team comps I can use to deal with issues I'm having and perfecting my play with those teams to just barely scrape by has been the most fun I've had fighting bosses in this game.
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>>719439578
Need more girls with stirrups. And need more alternate costumes with barefoot/stirrups
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rare Clorindeschizo melty on /v/
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>>719439401
Wait you have to get more than c6 to get to 100? Fuck I’m glad I left.
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>>719476610
I have C1 Nilou so C2 is a no-brainer (pun intended) as the first pick. Then maybe C1 Shenhe after that. Is C2 Klee still used for any meme teams?
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>>719476939
Getting a dupe at C6 for any 5*, including standard dupes for example, gets you one of those items, you can then use than item on any character. So you can get C0 5*s or 4*s to level 100 too.
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>>719476915
>we never got a chance to use the mummy girl
We live in a such a bad timeline.
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>>719476845
You might want to be more careful when reading the posts you are writing replies to, lest you expose yourself as the overwhelmingly massive retard you are.
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I will C6 my C2 Qiqi over the years and there's nothing you can do to stopped me.
>b-b-but lvl 100
Don't care, my national team can clear abyss and stygian primogems rewards easily.
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>>719477074
>The UGC is going to be a colossal waste of time when they realise no one outside of their existing playerbase will want to touch it due to it being made by the evil chinese gambling game creators
> made by the evil chinese gambling game creators
>Tencent literally owned wushit and other gacha games, PUBG, Riot and Almost half of Epic company.
??????????
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>>719477175
Thank you for confirming that you are indeed a retard
I can tell you have no idea what people outside of your shitposting imageboard think. You are no longer worthy of my time and as thus I deny you the honour of entertaining me.
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>>719477243
I accept your concession 10cent shill.
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>>719476983
>Is C2 Klee still used for any meme teams?
Yes, with C2 she is a pretty good support in teams that don't already have def shred (and few teams do). She's rarely good on-field, but when on-field she has some of the highest pyro application in the game. I wonder if she can do something decent at level 100.
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Sorry /v/ we tried to contain our retards on /gig/ but they leaked out.
Please understand they are mentally retarded. They think it's P2W now and will call you names and such if you disagree with them.
Making a character lvl 100 means dogshit when you can clear every content now with only lvl 90, The only thing this will "help" is Dire Difficulty SO which rewards nothing more then a Temporary Weapon skin until the even resets.
Everything else in the game can be beaten with lvl 90 C0R0 characters.
But they have a schizo theory that now Hoyo will "Increase" the difficulty of everything and make the game "Impossible" and you will be forced to make characters lvl 100
Dont try to argue with them.
It's like arguing with a women. Pointless.

We try to hold em in better next time.
Have a nice day.
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>>719477292
Level 100 doesn't help Klee at all because her two main uses right now are either as Furina's support due to her absurd Pyro application or with the divebomb team where she spams Vaporize/Melt plunges but multiplicative reactions don't give a shit about your level.

The only hope for Klee breaking away from gimmick teams and playing using her full kit is praying miHoYo gives Alice a passive that enables her to function as an off-field support for Klee.
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DEER SEX
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>>719477539
My C2 Klee sometime carry on certain abyss mode, I remember it was a pyro shilling that boost normal attacks and monster that weak to pyro reaction.
Seriously this game only feel OP because the end game buff that cater certain banner, it always overlap sometime, I even used Gaming during Varesa banner when it shilled plunged attack.
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>>719477539
40% extra damage to overload (if they don't nerf it) so maybe a team of Klee and 3 electro off-fielders can work. No idea though, I'm really sad they didn't buff older characters at all so I'm coping hard.
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Why did they only include constellations and not weapons? I know a guy with 6 PJ Spears but no c6 charas despite being a 1.0 player, he should get to level his fave to level 100 as well.
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>>719477670
Bruh, My C0 Ayaka literally killing it in current abyss rotation, the buff exist in domain.
Even Noelle getting a comeback again during Navia banner.
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>>719477834
Your Ayaka isn't doing shit, it's Furina and Escoffier doing 90% of the work
You can use Kaeya and get the same results
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>Genshin has a thread up
>ZZZ has a thread up
Why don't we ever have Star Rail threads here?
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>>719478001
Genshin and ZZZ are toys for /v/ while Star Rail is /lit/
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>>719478001
shart rail is boring as fuck and there's nothing to talk about
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>>719477814
>Why did they only include constellations and not weapons?
It's not supposed to give everyone lvl100s.
If they wanted that, they'd just make it available on all C6+ characters rather than 5-stars only.
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>Had the game uninstalled since somewhere Natlan.
>Someone tells me everyone gets 4 free constellations for 5 stars
>Click on this thread
>Something about everyone getting more constellations and lvl 100 being available
What the fuck is going on? Regardless, 4 constellations for La Vaca.
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>>719477814
Because weapons are technically always useful(even though some of the standard weapons are shit.) Characters beyond c6 are not.
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>>719477970
I don't even got Furina or Escofier in her team, it was water twink, Senhe, Mona and Ayaka.
She got benched for years and now multiple domain got multiple bosses that said I need to froze them to trigger their weak state, its no brainer I pick Ayaka in that round.
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>>719478031
Not so fast, cowboy >>719472716
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As long as they never add whaleshit to achievements I don't care
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How's your backlog of leveling characters looking?

I still need 1680 resin to finishing level all of my m*le characters.
That's about 10 days worth of resin being wasted.
But you need 28 characters to enter the new IT.
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>>719478031
>Regardless, 4 constellations for La Vaca.
Not how it works and you can't even choose her because she's a Natlan character. She won't be a freebie for another year or two.
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>>719478105
There's an achievement for getting the 5 star weapon skins from SO. When you clear in less than 180 seconds.

Guess you'll never have 100% of the achievements. Sucks to suck.
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>>719477970
Not exactly. During this IT's level 6 boss I had both Aya and Skirk but not one of their supports- not Shenhe nor Escorfier. Still Ayacchi deleted that shit but I struggled with Skirk. I feel Ayaka is more flexible with teams imo.

Then again I have been using my Ayaka since 4.x in Abyss so my experience might just be out of here.
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>>719477814
Because you still get a fully functional weapon past maxing one out unlike characters. Now if they let you sacrifice extra 5* wep dupes then maybe that would be a more comparable trade, but the pity system is still different so it's still not equivalent.
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>>719478031
Every 12 weeks there is an event where you can pick 1 constellation for a selection of characters (all of them bad). You can only pick each character in this event once, so no multiple constellations per character.
Getting a dupe of a C6 5* (through any means, so rolling, anniversary standard pick or the aforementioned event) gets you an item.
This item can be used to level any character (5* with any constellation level so C0 too and also 4* characters) to from level 90 to level 95 with one item and from level 95 to level 100 with two more.
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>>719478001
Because HSR is a mobile game first and an actual video game second. It's profits are so consistent because chink teenagers play it on the trains to/from school and drop money on it to show off to their friends. There's a reason why Honkeks only bring up sales, after all. Genshin and ZZZ are video games first and foremost, and have things actually worth discussing to non-bugmen.
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>>719478210
Except there isn't.
Nice try though
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>>719478269
Guess you'll never know.
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>>719478186
Goddamn it. Guess I'll just buff some supports like Shenhe, Nilou, and whatever else.
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>>719478001
HSR is a chink wankfest
boring af
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>>719478001
Star Rail is objectively the weakest game of the three.
The story went from decent to a year of garbage, then a short rise from the grave which ended up sliding into garbage over that year and the new planet was also mid to garbage.
The gacha-isms are the strongest in Star Rail. The gameplay asks you to automate it, the mechanics have all been discarded in favor of simply pulling for power creep like any rank and file gacha since 2010, the graphics quickly lost their edge.

It has its place and fans, but it's just not on the scale of the other two, with Genshin being the biggest single player MMO of sorts since WoW and Zenless being a lovable fuckup that somehow misses the mark more often than not but still has the team trying to make it work.
So there's just more to talk about with them.
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>>719478102
I mean it is free, you just need to do the same dailies the game already wants you to do. it's an extra incentive to dailies really
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>>719478001
cuz shart rail fucking sucks
t. assmad e6 ACK haver
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>>719478649
All I'm getting from this is that it's basically a gift that's far less valuable than it looks and it's secretly just another way to ensure players still log in daily
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>>719478716
Isn't E6 Acheron extremely strong, though?
Even at E2 she can basically one shot even the most current MoC 12 bosses.
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>>719478762
Its basically their answer to people who want to dupes their favorite characters >>719476548
Just look at Star rail for example, their game literally doing rerun for banner that just came out two months ago, because how low the sale on old characters.
Casual don't care about meta.
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>>719478813
i'm just mad that her best team are full of homos. plus this game really punishes vertical investments because it wants you to keep pulling for the new hot shit
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>>719478430
Nilou's C1/C2 are pretty good IMO, especially now that she'll be meta with Lauma.
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>>719478001
>the only content it has now is the long ass story
>the story that half (probably more) of the playerbase skip now since they added a skip button
What even is there to talk about?
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>>719478105
????
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>>719478930
>best team is Silver Wolf, Sparkle and Tribbie
>full of homos
Um, hello?
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>>719479104
You think that's whale shit? That's "don't be a retarded shitter who dumps ten constellations on a Neuv team" shit.
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>>719479104
>4 star only
>lvl1 weapons
>no artifacts
>still get 10 stella
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1e8ZSYUETJ/
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>>719478953
Her C1 doesn't do anything
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>>719479398
It's a QoL that let's you get out more blooms before switching back to her.
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>>719479398
It makes her E last longer so you don't need to swap to her as often so you can stay on your designated EM bot for longer.
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>>719479385
Damn, I'm really bad at video games.
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>>719479385
>missed the old easy theater cycles
>will never be able get the achievement now
go on without me guys....
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>>719479694
Bruh, that guy doing it with handicapped team and rent a char.
The only excuse you got is you just start playing recently.
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>>719479694
You can still basically guarantee 10* so long as you plan ahead and you don't get completely fucked over by bad RNG. The elemental reaction buffs do a ton of heavy lifting and you should be planning those around the last few acts to trivialize them.
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>>719479854
fucking diluc, man, i hate him
always being annoying on my 50/50
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>>719479694
Ironically that was the video that made me realise I had been playing the game mode the wrong way all along
Previously I ignored the blessings that boost reactions and spent all of my flowers trying to get the right characters so that I could assemble teams that I'd use in the abyss. After I switched to prioritising grabbing the boosts for the reactions and just using whichever characters I got in between the stages as well as the occasional purchase with flowers I had a far easier time
I've gotten 10 stella the previous 4-5 months without much of an issue whereas before that it felt like a struggle just to clear
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>>719436579
nod krai will be kino

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuXa_yxZMGI
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>>719480150
my problem is that you buy one blessing upgrade and then the RNG just keeps chucking the same blessing at you, so you then need characters for that particular reaction
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>>719480150
I've had both anemo reactions buffed to lv 3/4 in the last cycle and it still wasn't enough damage to kill Maguu Kenki in time with whatever combination of characters I had left at that point, let alone try to get the stella.
I guess I'll just wait for some better lineup of elements in the future, although with the constant hp bloating I'm finding it really hard to care already.
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>>719480303
That game basically a copy of highest difficulty of star Rail SU on crack, I always hates that game mode if I want just to clear it fast, but some people loved the RNG aspect of it just to see number goes up.
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>>719480259
still wild to me that they put so much production value into whats essentially a chinese mobile game
I'm happy for it but still
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>>719478813
Jesus Christ, it really is the meme.
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>>719480527
needs more hallways
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>>719480527
Don't like turn based games? It's been a popular genre for the better part of 3 decades.
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>>719480520
I just wished they upped their talking cutscene animation production, its getting better in Natlan but still far from even what their vision as JRPG anime game, almost everyone before natlan talks like a boring generic NPC with no distinct personality.
ZZZ basically get it right in 1.0 but going downhill after that, everyone in star rail feels like watching random generic MMOPRG NPC talking.
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>>719480527
Fucking kek
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>>719480646
A gacha turn-based game is shit by default. Imagine not having access to all of the options in a game where skill is secondary to the options you have available.
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>>719437081
Ccp mihomo shill already doing damage control got his analworms gayfag impact game
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>>719480520
Genshin isn't even high production value these days, it's an old game. Wuwa just looks like a normal AAA
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where do I find a gf like this
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>>719481259
S N E Z H N A Y A
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>>719481228
what PS3 game is this
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>>719481312
I CANT GO THERE
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>>719481228
but they don't do shit for their music which shows they don't care or have the money
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>>719478001
Still pissed about the Fate collab.
What a low-effort garbage.
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>>719481439
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>>719478813
>>719480527
I thought the meme was a gross exaggeration, but it turned out to not be nearly as bad as the real thing. Honkaitards seriously convinced themselves that genshin players are totally abandoning it for... this.
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Thoughts when you saw Columbina's feet (again)?
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>>719481352
Elden Ring
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>>719481439
>Announces the collab well over a year in advance
>This is the best they could pull out
Lmao
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>>719481532
she shouldn't have those water heels, her disign would be better if she was barefoot like nahida. Also not a footfag btw.
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>>719476876
sounds like you're easily pleased loser who loves easy to made slop and then defends it online. a perfect goy.
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>>719460608
>and now ai voices
that's a fucking lie
ted*it and "the modding community" faggots went after ai voices like the dogs they are, very few survived
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>>719481439
anyone who plays FGO wouldnt be surprised by the collab, nasu is fucking awful at writing event shit
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>>719481532
Already tired of her. ONE good character for an entire region, she's already getting overshilled
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>fallacy
>buzzword vomit
Thanks for the concession and admitting you're awful at the game.
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>>719478001
Star Rail is a story gacha that is so inconsistent and lacking in production quality that it frequently fails at the one thing it's meant to accomplish, while the gameplay is a joke that will never rise above its current level. The closest comparison is something like FGO, except that game still gets to fall back on the rare moments where Nasu dumps one of his 20 to 40 hours long stories on the playerbase.
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>>719439849
Do you have Escoffier?
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>>719481785
>Nasu dumps one of his 20 to 40 hours long stories on the playerbase.
I thought people like FSN for the non-linear storytelling, wouldn't a linear gacha story completely miss the point of that
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>>719481865
most people like Fate for the setting/world, although FSN fags would tell you otherwise
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what's R0?
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>>719482141
Not having the signature weapon.
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>>719482141
C = Constellation
R = Refinement
In the context of describing how built characters are (like when you see someone say C0R0, C2R1, C6R5 etc) it typically refers to their specific signature weapon unless something else is stated
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>>719481494
Why do retards try to call everything a "meme"?
Do you really not see how retarded you look?
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>>719482359
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCqGxNxjKA8
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>>719439849
Unless your artifacts suck this is a gameplay issue
I would have to see footage to point out where you're going wrong though

The guy recommending Iansan for team 1 is right, there are likely better setups for your Mualani too but I'm not sure what you have available
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>>719482359
What is a meme anon?
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>>719482359
yeah meme went from popular trend thing, to just any single image in isolation that someone likes
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I skipped skirk since I don't care for honkai characters in Genshin. How is she?
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Finally 100%ed everything, I'm ready for Nod Krai. All in all, I liked Natlan, it offered some nice visual. Any cinegrids for the other regions?
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>>719482491
apparently some shit that kills you but doesn't and basically an oversized dog?
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>>719483143
It's complicated because they're bringing an increasing amount of factors into the equation that determines whether or not a character is 'good' but all things considered she's still very strong
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>>719483150
I honestly can't wait to explore that ufo-like steel fortress, feels like we finally raiding the final boss dungeon in JRPG.
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>>719483143
Skirk is still strong and she has been valuable in both stygian onslaughts so far.
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>>719483143
she hits like a truck
but arlequinno and mavuika do that too
and are easier to play
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>>719483347
Varesa is much easier and fun.
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>Skirk: the strongest
>her story: "I gotta be the strongest"
KINOOOOOOOOO
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>>719483347
>easier to play
What? Skirk is one of the easiest characters to play at the expected baseline. She does have a lot of room for optimization so her skill ceiling is higher than some think but it's pretty hard to fuck up skill burst combo.
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>>719483347
At C0 she is really underwhelming, just a less clunky Ayaka
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>>719480646
I play trailsslop and star rail is a shitty version of their battle system. It's probably worse than the original trails in the sky and they've been constantly improving the system, adding shit. It's no smt press system but it's way better than star rail.
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>>719482359
Holy shit, it's the meme police. RUN!
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>>719483804
>underwhelming
My c0 Skirk breaks 100k damage on fucking normals. The hell are you talking about?
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>>719483270
>can smash through the front door or sneak in via ducts etc
>enemy alarm system that keeps throwing dudes at you if you get caught
it's crazy how this video game is suddenly becoming a real video game
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>>719483804
but ayaka is ugly
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>>719483985
how dare you
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speaking of Skirk, what cope weapon should I use?
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>>719483347
Whenever I play Skirk I just set up her supports, press E then Q, then unga away without even needing to pay attention to reactions.
It's definitely easier than Arle that can't be healed or Mavuika that needs to melt all of her hits.
Am I missing something here?
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>>719483970
>Nod's collab leak
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>>719484113
chat is this real?
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>>719484113
Where's my Xbox collab character
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>>719483804
I don't think you know what the word "underwhelming" means.
>b-b-but Mavuika Me-
Skirk has the highest burst damage potential in the entire game. Yes, even higher than Mavuika.
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>>719484219
here you go senpai
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>>719484063
The 5.2 event weapon is the best 4-star for her.
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>20 fucking years ago
Thanks, you made me feel old.
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>>719484428
Not for long
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>>719484481
for >>719484312
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did Aloy really poison the well for crossovers?
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>>719484513
This is only if you're using a dual carry setup like Skirk + Ayaka and you're using Skirk as a burstbot. If you want to play Skirk as your on-field carry Calamity is still by far the best 4* option and even outperforms several 5* weapons with the condition of having a shielder.
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>>719484513
>Energy cap not exceed 60/40
How the fuck we even know this?
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>>719484958
Your character can't accumulate any more energy than the 100% it costs to use their burst and you can check the cost of their burst in the talents menu
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>>719484958
Please tell me you're joking.
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>>719483302
>>719483347
I see. Cheers. I already have a Chevvy team with Varesa and a broken-supports-go! team with Arle + her sig, so no motivation to grab her.
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>>719485024
>talent menu
Oh, ok it always just a circle bar on my hud with zero number
>>719485029
???
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>>719485116
idiot lol
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>after a year of no bloom
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>>719484268
And thats a C0 Skirk, surely
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>>719485072
Isn't it strange that both Qing & Hu Tao killed themselves during New Year? I find that strange.
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Speaking of Calamity of Eshu, is it better than Mistsplitter for Clorinde if I play her with Ineffa?
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>>719485149
Eh, if the bar is full I press it for free primogems rewards
Nothing else matter before in the last five years.
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>>719485191
Doubt it
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>>719485054
I miss her battle music. It should play whenever she's on the team.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRKnt_chL6Q
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>>719485159
Kneel-o would never smoke indoors.
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>>719485265
>>719485159
Does her new bloom team still have Nahida?
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>>719436579
is this going to allow us to unlock the forbidden lvl 15 skills
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>>719485381
Yes, it's Nilou/Lauma/Nahida/Kokomi
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>>719485257
>we need a battle theme for our limited summer event, it doesn't have to be anything much
>say no more
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>>719485163
Yes my skirk is c0. Do you want me to record opening my character page right now or something?
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>>719485431
No. The only thing you get from the level 100 cap is the base stat increase.
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>>719485572
They mentioned abilities being enhanced.
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>>719485381
Not necessarily
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>>719484268
>Yes, even higher than Mavuika.
Mavuika can hit the 20,000,000 damage cap.
Skirk can not.
I like Skirk, and I have her at C2R1, but saying she has a higher burst than Mavuika is silly.
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>>719485505
Well, my maxxed C0 R1 Skirk does nowhere that dmg so yes, by all means
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>>719485630
Think reaction damages increases too. Perfect for nod krai ones
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>>719445380
qiqi bros our time is now
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>>719484513
My Keka already has a Mistsplitter so I think Kaeya is the only other character I have who make use of this.
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>>719485667
>Mavuika can hit the 20,000,000 damage cap.
>Skirk can not.
Mavuika's burst hits once. Skirk's burst hits six times. Please don't tell me you're actually this retarded.
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>>719485257
I miss Yu Peng Chen
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I suck at the game
highest damage I have seen is 30k
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>>719485810
The sheer irony of your post. It's sad how you think you're actually smart.

In no world does Skirk's burst damage, even when adding up all the hits, get even close to 20,000,000.

And don't forget that after that 20,000,000 burst hit from Mavuika, she can follow that up with 5,000,000 charge attack melts every 1.7 seconds.
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>>719439849
>>swap Mualani out
>No!
Baste
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Oh okay it's just the usual retard being retarded and getting triggered hard and sperging out whenever he says something retarded and gets corrected. Carry on.
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>>719485708
>>719485572
Problem with reaction based damage it similar to what happen to Dendro like in Sumeru, people keep saying it will be broken as fuck but then shield bullshittry happen making everything about it useless, even the current abyss got boss that only turned weak after you trigger frozen multiple times and that doesn't work with electro or dendro reaction.
Now they seem like trying to shill reaction based damage again with releasing upcoming new dendro character, but that mean the wheel turning down again for other DPS that has been reign supreme for the last two years.
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oh know
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>>719485879
Well, this battle music wasn't by him, so yeah.
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>>719486115
>>719486130
It really is literally never anyone but you causing arguments in these threads, huh.
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Hu Tao schizo confirmed. What a shame.
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>>719486265
>instantly starts spamming with his 4chan passes to try and pretend he's more than one person
Do go ahead and post even hypothetical calcs where Skirk does a 20,000,000 burst.
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Nefer should've been tan like Dehya and Candace tbqhwymf
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>>719486412
NO, that would guarantee she would be complete shit. Now she has a chance to be useful on the battlefield.
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>>719486412
WE
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>>719486412
>brown character in Genshin
>instabrick
Maybe its better this way
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>>719486412
Fuck no. The melanin curse is real. The only character who has managed to get away from it is Iansan and some would argue even she got monkey pawed.
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>>719486483
Bruh, your xilonen.
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Sandronne won't end up being a playable character, will she?
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>>719486412
will her thighs be that big in game?
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>>719486545
Gyarus have a free pass
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>>719486412
Rare huge improvement.
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>>719486559
They included her in the official character reveal cards for the region, she's safe
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>>719457536
these are so good
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>>719486559
her element will be moon
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>>719486559
yes she will. Otherwise dawei will face my wrath
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>>719486590
damn straight
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>>719486459
>>719486483
>>719486491
We love our brown bricks here.
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>>719486689
I wish I were that cat
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>>719486604
It's color theory. Tan skin goes well with green eyes and darker green highlights in general.
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>>719486660
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When are we going back to Inazuma?
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>>719486803
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>>719486834
hmmm ai slobba
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>>719486834
we just went back though
I think Sumeru is up next for a memberberry
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>>719486149
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>>719483347
>are easier to play
What? Are you talking about teambuilding or playstyle? Because if it's the latter then Skirk's playstyle is brain dead, you just spam her normal attacks after setting up her supports. Arle and Mavuika both need to time their hits for Melt if you want to maximize their damage, which is way more difficult than Skirk's playstyle.
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>>719486491
Iansan's only downside is being Electro and even then you're probably running her with Bennett/Double Pyro anyways.
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I want to roll, I don't like waiting for who i want
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>>719487289
I'm referring to the fact that she's a support. For years people were holding out hope that Iansan would be the one to finally break the loli curse of being supports or terrible on-fielders but that didn't happen.
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>>719487365
hang on, brother
Flins will be yours...
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>>719439849
nah, this is bait
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>>719487412
Supports have way more longevity than DPS do, and being a Bennett clone is pretty much the best archetype of support a character could possibly be, which is why it took us 5 years to get a second.
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>>719456437
>make headcanon based on rumors
>turns out to be right
>MAAAAN WHY DID THEY PUSSIED OUT???



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