Japs are billion years behind when it comes to gachas and they are losing money.
I don't care if the Japanese game industry survives or not, I just need Square Enix to die.I hate what they have done to Final Fantasy and they do not deserve to exist anymore.
My primary goal when destroying all 7R criticism on sight was to protect the games industry from moving away from AAA blockbuster FFVII games towards an MMO, GAAS, gacha, paypig future that square will create in its place. But if their mobile games are failing too... what's my mission?
>>719461921Total gacha death
unironically good news because1. gachas are a blight2. SE can't founder soon enoughif only chinks would get the memo too so they can actually focus on making an actual good game for once. Japs are already tired of soshage to begin with
>SE console and PC games are dying:)>SE mobile games are dying:)
>>719463209I do wish the chink government would decide to clamp down on gacha for whatever bullshit reason, I don't care, just for the greater good.Maybe the threat of war would make them want millions of men to stop gooning all day.
>>719462027Based
>>719461921this is happening because japan's cool patent system where nintendo owns the right to touch screen and some corporation next door filed a patent for upgrading skills in bulk so no japanese gacha can add this sorta feature.japan is cannibalizing themselves so they can't compete at all with china/korea. nintendo retards cheering for nintendo suing palworld for having mounts you ride don't understand the japanese game industry is dead in the water since they can now patent people riding mounts lmao. it's like yeah okay japoids can patent it but nobody else gives a fuck about their retarded patent system where nintendo owns the right to riding mounts so in the end only japanese developers suffer.
>>719463957>nintendo owns the right to touch screen and some corporation next door filed a patent for upgrading skills in bulk so no japanese gacha can add this sorta feature.Wait what?
rip ffbehad a lot of fun with global, one of the few actual gacha jrpgs out there
>>719463957>nintendo owns the right to touch screen and some corporation next door filed a patent for upgrading skills in bulkI can't tell if this is fake or real
>>719463660Men goon all day because they are too poor to do anything else. Jobs and schools take too many hours, at some point you are not going to have 38 years old Ching Chong wanting to start a family inside his tiny house.You can't blame people for escapism
>>719461921>switching to console game development is not an easy solution for many>other gachas already doing the console format just fine find a fuck way to make it gacha and have a way for it to play offline you have the fuck foundation find a way already.
Unironically Japan just stagnated. They didn't want to push the medium when they could keep doing FGO tier games and visuals and rake in money. I don't want to glaze China, but Hoyo takes some fucking swings when it comes to gacha shit.
>>719463957Nintendo also has links (lmao) with the yakuza, so japanese magazines always attack the competition, don't give them coverage and Nintendo even inflate their numbers, which is why the whole sales and revenue numbers don't add up
>>719461921I can't help but just be happy when I see any gacha game dying
>games journalismJP mindset is 75 year old CEOs demanding their gacha branch make IP-centric mobage that they can quickly hype and EoS to quick cash in on fans of that IP. The idea you are missing out on what EVERYONE ELSE IS PLAYING OMG hits harder when your society is based on group activities and conformity.
>>719462027and capcomand konamiand shittendo
>>719463376Fucking BASED
>>719464001>>719464039somebody posed a tweet of a japanese developer explaining he wants to add the feature to his game so it's more convenient upgrading in bulk but it's patented so he can't add it. yes, japan is sinking that low where quality of life features are patented so their games will feel like something from 20 years ago always lmao.nintendo has the patent for touch screens interaction, but obviously nobody respects that shit and it's ignored. there's plenty of other ones though like them owning the mechanic "sanity" in survival horror so never expect a japoid game to have it.
>>719464081Japans biggest problem is the same as white countries aka boomers. They don't train young people, while Jackie Chan by 20 already copied a lot of works>Copying is BAD!You LEARN by copying, by imitating, it's why chinks can poop more content in less time than japanese. They also supported technology
Reminder that Pazudora is still alive in JP
>>719464049The real problem is it feels pointless. I'm 30, I have an advanced degree and a prestigious job. But I'm getting tired and want to drop out. It's too much effort for no wife, no kids, nothing to look forward to. I imagined I would have a kid by now and would be excited every long weekend to take them camping and fishing. But I don't have anything because Jews destroyed our culture with generations of propaganda. The girls at church are run through, and the pastors tell me to accept it and pray for Israel. I'd rather just game, it's more fun than working for nothing.
>>719464163add KoeiTecmo, BandaiNamco, Sony, Falcom to the listI would like Fromsoftware too since they brought a ton nomrie retards but realistically speaking it's not going to happen
>>719464325That's the thing, people say yeah unlike hags old men can still impregnate but old age is still there, it's not the same if some 40 yo has another kid after he had a few when he was 20s than being a first time father at such a late age.Also, at some point yeah you say what's the point, I don't want to bring a baby to such a hellish worldIt is what it is, and I find pathetic you have traitor numales still wanting to punish men that have literally nothing only because they dared spend money in some gacha and not on his favorite company
>>719464384Fromsoft has been a normie company since dark souls, kill yourself
>>719461921bout fuckin time
>>719464174Wtf that's pathetic
>>719463957I hope Nintendo sues mihoyo for the mounting and they rape nintendo
>>719464325one good thing to come from the israel situation is how many people are opening their eyes to "what it's all for"I don't even mean it in a Da Joos conspiracy way, but just the way power works in general and what the ultimate destination of all that money you're making for your boss really is.you spend your whole life being told that the holocaust was the worst thing that ever happened but today you're considered a dangerous extremist for saying israel turning palestine into an open air prison and starving and bombing a whole country is kind of not very nice. and the leaders of your country are more interested in backing israel than taking care of you. they would rather spend tax money supplying israel with missiles than paying to fix old roads and bridges or railways in your own country.how is anyone supposed to look at this sick joke and feel they should give a shit? of course you're disillusioned.Anyway at least we still get good news sometimes, like SquareEnix going bankrupt
>>719464174I noticed every non Nintendo game gets attacked with THIS IS CENSORED DONT BUY IT while giving a pass to Nintendo games when they get censored
>>719462027fpbp
>>719464509You seem to be retarded
>>719464694>but today you're considered a dangerous extremist for saying israel turning palestine into an open air prison and starving and bombing a whole country is kind of not very niceWhy do you think it's more acceptable these days to talk about anti immigration anon? Think about it, who would benefit from this sudden turn of opinion the most?
>>719463957the fuck does that having anything to do with gacha? No one is sueing SE for their single player games, why would they sue their gacha?
>>719464216It's still alive in the west. I've technically been playing the game for 13 years.
>>719464697Tendiejeets are a thing
>>719461921Meanwhile Chinese and Korean gachas are doing well. I believe the issue is that Japanese companies see gacha as an afterthought, put less money and effort into them and primarily rely on IP recognition while a company like GayHoyo goes all in. They also seem more skittish in general because they target "global audiences" meanwhile Koreans push fanservice to the absolute limit and are completely shameless about, they give zero shit about what westoids think. I would honestly prefer Square, Bamco and the like to drop this bullshit and focus their efforts on traditional games but gacha is here to stay, especially in East Asia and there's nothing we can do about it.
>>719464873India is overwhelmingly a Playstation nation
>>719464003What was the story with the community manager chick who died a few years back?
>>719464994who cares you gossipy little fag? stop acting like a woman
>>719464968>B-but snoy!Yeah and sandnigs being rapists don't mean jeets are not rapists eitherSorry, not a consolecuck, tendiejeet.
>>719464838To be honest I'm envious of Israel. How come they can do it but we can't? I would support them in spirit if the exact same people tell us we can't have it are green lighting it across the sea.
>>719464907But the problem is japanese games don't sell that much anymore.
>>719465196Japan's gone woke so they'll fall into the same death spiral as western games did over the last decade.
>>719465285I think it's more a birthrates problem and gachas eating their public. Games with no censorship and full of fanservice still flop
>>719464697They unironically bought an ad
>>719464174>and it's ignoredNintendo sued Colopl and won over touchscreen control patent you dumbass.
>>719463957Good. Japs are getting too slow with their own innovation that the chinks and gooks are outpacing them now. Here in my country Jap cars are STILL giving us a few years outdated car techs (see: It's 2026, Honda cars like HR-V still costed 20% more than chink counterparts, and yet, NO 360 degree panoramic cameras! Dashboard and center console designs from 2017-2018! No floating centre console. No Level 2 autonomous driving assist. List goes on). And jap cars costed MORE than the chink cars!It's good if the japs get their own realization. And probably get consumed by chink corpos instead. Because now chink corpos are literally just competing among themselves!
>>719465196Nintendo begs to differ. Anyway they don't sell as well because they have been westernized too much and lost what makes them unique, the series that are still unapologetically Japanese like Yakuza, Persona/SMT/Metaphor are doing good, there's a bunch of lower profile games too that don't cost much to make that manage to sell well and turn a good profit.
>>719465465>japoids sue japoids and cannibalize their nationcool. it's ignored by everybody outside of their shitty country. their country is crashing and burning so nobody needs to even care about trying to sell them anything either since their currency is worthless and they haven't had economic growth in 30 years.nintendo can own the right to videos and sue all other developers out of business. their games aren't popular with alpha/zoomer and the numbers they give for sold units are all fake as fuck.
>>719461921Stop doing gachas?
>>719465578Nintendo makes a lot of bullshit with their numbers, most of their buyers are autistic millennials buying multiple copies and them pulling a Disney, it's why they are approaching Hollywood so much
>>719465196Weren't Nightrein and MH Wilds the top selling games of 2025?
>>719465578Yakuza relies on recycling the map, Persona games come every 10 years now>Metaphor Was in development hell for almost a decade and had to change to pander to p5fags and even then it only made 2 millions
>>719465848You mean the games that looks the most western like?
>>719465708>japoids sue japoids and cannibalize their nationThis reminds me of Oda from One Piece, his Wano arc was brutally MOGGED by Kimetsu no Yaiba, then Oda sent a weird letter and guess what happened?>Jump pretends KnY never existed in their magazine >Never reprint for KnY>Got way less marketing>Rushed ending
>>719465849>Was in development hell for almost a decade and had to changeLet me guess the MC was white before they turned him into a gypsy
>>719465578>there's a bunch of lower profile games too that don't cost much to make that manage to sell well and turn a good profit.This here is the key. If their industry want to rise back, the non capcom/atlus/fromsoft NEED to step up for real. Their presence is important because without them the japanese game industry is just a mirror of the west. But the chance for that to happen is almost unlikely. Regular joes who seek weebshit these days won't be getting those mid budgeted normal games as their price tag might be too much and will run to f2pshit gacha.
I'm confused, why are chinks* and gooks thriving with their coombait stuff when payment processors are on a censorship spree with foreign stuff like the nips?
>>719464697Yeah man no one ever made threads about Fire Emblem Engage or the Paper Mario remake, fucking tendies
>>719466342FE gets threads everyday and they barely get derailed to censorship unlike the other games.
>>719466295you're missing something. capcom/fromsoft/nintendo/sony own all the patents for video game mechanics and will sue any other japanese corporation destroying them. the big boys have a monopoly and won't let any rising stars challenge them. palworld is a japanese company even though nintendo trannies kept saying it's chinese and nintendo is trying to destroy them by claiming they own the patent to riding mounts. you're ignoring how the young upstarts can't do shit since the govenment and law is suppressing them as much as possible.
>>719466540Yeah, at least chinks can coexist even when they fucking copy between each other.
>>719465708alpha/zoomer don't have money to buy Vidya you moron
>>719466693alpha/zoomer can drop all sorts of money paying streamers,gacha skins,roblox&fortnite credits with their parents credit card. they simply don't give a fuck about japcrap and nintendo garbage.
>>719461921Girls aside, japanese gacha just feel lower quality compared to chinese/korean ones.The amount of jewery is about the same for all three but the chinese/korean ones are better at making you spread your ass.>>719466319Dunno about Korea but China has their own payment processors and no one use Visa/MC there so they can't really pressure them to do anything.
>>719464907>put less money and effort into them and primarily rely on IP recognition while a company like GayHoyo goes all in.I'm reminded of an article about nip devs discussing Endfield and how the chinks have way bigger budgets and animators allocated to their gacha compared to local gacha which try to minimize production costs.
>>719466994Japan still has the low effort/budget/risk, high reward mindset for gacha but failed to realize this stopped being true like 10 years ago.
not vidya
>>719466792Anon, Fortnite is dying because the audience grew ip and started to work and "enjoy" the adult life.
>>719461921Because they would rather play chinkshit than their own gachashit
>>719463660They're not doing jackshit because it's a global money maker to them and they're fucking over their own economy for no real reason. I remember seeing headlines about how CCP would clamp down on twinks and gaming time but they didn't do jack shit
>>719464081Japs have traditionalist and nepotistic tendencies. Back in the 2000s, Japs would refuse to improve their netcode for fighting games because they are used to highspeed network in their own country which is fine if you want the game to stay only in Japan and Korea. But if you want the global market you need a better and stable netcode. They didn't change the status quo until their pockets where threatened when other games started using roll-back netcode made by the Cannon bros. This is also the reason why Jap games lag behind other multiplayer genres because they think their PS3 level games is superior to whatever foreigners make not realizing Call of Duty, GTA, Dota, League, Minecraft, Roblox and Fortnite are multibillion dollar games. That's how pathetic Jap mentality is. They become a monopoly but instead of maintaining the monopoly they allow other people to take their spot and replace them permanently.
Japan is pleasing the golems and they start feeling the hurt. Somehow they did not see this comming?Anime is shaping to do the same and again it does not stop them from losing altitude.Meanwhile China and Korea do not give a fuck.Im feeling sad for Japan. They do not deserve this but i feel they are forcing their hand but only a few people are speaking out on it. While if they do they actually catch the masses to protest in favour of them.
>>719461921They have that uma musume game
>>719469109Japan also nuked half of their audience when they listened to otakus too much and refused to make more shoujos and yaoi, so webtoons and chinks absorbed millions of horny femcels
>>719464994she had cancer and didn't make it
>>719469812>and refused to make more shoujos and yaoiAre you retarded?There's fuckton of them, you just never see them in the west because of the lack of interest.
>>719469109The whole old worship is the reason why first world countries are dying. You are supposed to worship and provide the youth.
>>719464907Chinks are smarter and know they need constant new stories and characters. Nostalgia bait doesn't work that well anymore, look at mgs3d, these remakes simply arrived way too late (millennials too old, zoomers about to hit 30 etc)
I'm not playing more than one gacha >but it's a real game this time
>>719469109>Anime is dying bro!lol sure thing retard, go to /a/ and post this delusional take and see what happens
>>719470354I don't think it's dying but the quality is extreme low and it's steadily getting worse
>>719469109kek wake me up when chinks and gooks could actually make anime people want to watch instead of some dogshit 1 minute clips on xitter social media engagement
If square Enix does eventually fold or forced into a merger/acquisition of another company where can you buy those glasses former Nintendo president Yamauchi wore? I want to cosplay as him when this happens.
>>719461921they dont know how to hold a gacha, almost every game gets a EoS after 1 or 2 years.not to mention that some games stick to national market but once it goes global somehow rates and deals are worse and more expensive, and EoS soon after.i dont get what is hard about a console port, every other indie retard is doing it.
>>719463957>Nintendo is murdering Gacha shitHoly based...
>>719465196From soft, capcom, Nintendo, and even Square make games that sells better than your average western shit. And there are many more studios like bandai, sega etc.
This is an amusing post to make after the horse game took the world by storm after going global.
>>719463957>nintendo kills gachaslopwtf stop making me like nintendies cult, /v/ anti nip shitposter
>>719465196Maybe JP gachas would sell if they stopped making fucking png auto battlers in 2025. Korea and CN have mostly moved past those but JP still puts them out.
>>719462027like, i understand being dissapointed with new games in an old franchisebut some of you faggots really need to get a life
>Japan pander to Western market>adopt DEI shit>make their female characters uglier>kill Abe>import jeets>everything is going to shitWe did warn them
>>719465898>it doesn't count because it has realistic artstyleretard moving goalpost when something kills his narrative, by your logic i guess i could say genshin is a japanese game now
>>719472572Isn't the horse girl game japanese?
>>719466994The Japan boomers in charge still think mobile games are supposed to be cheap cashgrabs based on existing IPs
>>719461921gacha suck, I'm not surprisedserves em right for putting out trash
>>719464907it's the same reason games by compile heart or kemco are always bad but keep them alive>it cost nothing to make, the profits are still higher than the losses so it wasn't a failure
>>719472240Uma and FGO are not the entire japanese gacha industry.If anything, the fact that these two dominate everything only makes OP's point stronger.
>>719472594>spends all day every day in a bitchy huff because 7R doesn't get universal praise 24/7>tells others to get a life
>>719469109It's funny how people still prefers anime aesthetic that the japs pop culture pioneered. But the japs themselves are getting out of touch with the thing that they first laid the groundwork for. At most influentual pop culture from japan recently is probably Demon Slayer lol
>>719473039isn't there basically no point in making a chink gacha unless you're mihomo now
>gachaniggers and their dumb gacha shitbye
>>719464081FGO did so much damage to the industry and maybe culture in general that cannot be understated.it changed the landscape and for the worst.
>>719461921Korean gacha games are so much more generous with free pulls and gems then compaired to jap gacha. I played some Uma Musume when it came out and you get like fucking nothing in compairison to Nikke.Also all the events are the fucking same with no mini games or any new gameplay added. Japanese gacha are fucking lazy and boring.
>>719472869sounds like the correct approach
>>719473125yup duet night abyss removed its gacha systemi think it says a lot about the absolute state of this industry
>>719473125Mihoyo had 2 terrible years in a row because their games are eating each others.
the solution: japan will double down, triple down on ESG incentives :-)
>>719473201>Korean gacha games are so much more generous>so much more generous>gacha games>generousThis is your brain on gacha. Anon you need to take a break from playing this shit, it doesn't even matter it's all about marketing and pushing the right buttons to get people to play and keep playing, the game giving you "free" shit is only a small part of the equation.
>>719473201stop replying to your own thread, gooktranny
>>719469109>Anime is shapinganime died since 2010, the Olympics gave them an excuse to gut the industry and for nothing because the chink virus fucked those Olympics, karmic justice at its best
>>719461921Japan has no hope of competing against Mihoyo.There's only room for one king, baby. It ain't Japan.
>>719473478you joke but that will likely be "the solution"
>>719473361so they can have 2 shit years in a row and still remain absolutely and definitively uncontested in the industry
>>719473045>spend 10 minutes a day on 4chan>immediately experience whiny bitches cry and piss their pants about entertainment not being exactly how they want it
>>719473630They had to cancel many of their project and only have 2 remaining and genshin clones are unironically stealing their thunder.They're definitely in a bad shape, though Japan is still in a worst state.
>>719465994Is any of that even remotely true? Why would Jump ignore Kimetsu no Yaiba being so popular for Oda?
>>719473662>>spend 10 minutes a day on 4chanYou're last post was over 20 minutes ago faggot. Looks like your over your limit.
>>719472572Yeah, instead gooks and chinks make ugly 3D autobattlers.What an improvement!
>>719461921Same crap as in the West - CEOs have absolutely no idea what they're doing and that's why all the products that come out are boring slop with no charisma. Also Chinese gachas have better animation, gameplay and stories, lol.
>>719461921Japan used to make great games like Persona 5, Nier Automata, Dark souls 3, Sekiro, BoTW, Xenoblade 2, MHW, RE7, FE3H, RE4R, Ryza 1-3, SF6, Mario wonder, pikmin 4, Elden ring, Unicorn overlord, Like a dragon 7, Asstro bot, metaphor since 2017, but how can they fall so soon this year and get mogged by Chinese black ships like genshin, starrail, ZZZ, WuWa, Wukong, Lost soul aside, Phantom blade zero, Korean black ship Like Khazan and Lies of P,Crimson desert, and French black ship like expedition 33 and Asscreed shadow? Why did Japanese game which was glorious in 2024 tremble so easily? No Japanese game this year got metascore over 90. Wilds, Yumia ,Mario kart world shows Japanese game's absolute fall this year.While Western game was suffering this last year. But it became opposite this year as western games revived with Kingdom come 2, Doom dark age, expedition 33, Oblivion remaster, man. And switch 2 has nailed on coffin on Japanese games due to fuckin' greed and keycard, wahoo! And due to MKW forcing intermission due to Devs' ego! What is left in Japan now?Anime? Solo leveling was AOTS last year, and China makes them better, TBHX, nezha and LoTM. Kpop demon hunter is hyping in Japan. Comics? Korean makes them better.Entertainment? Korea makes them better.Car? Electricity? Korea and China makes them better.Subculture? BA has 2000 comicket booth.Japan is NOTHING!!Nintendo is no match for Chinese AAA games' wave incoming!!
>>719461921I find funny when i see people using this ff gacha as example of failure because that's one of the most sucessfull gachas ever. it lasted for 10 YEARS. So seeing guys like these >>719462027 who dont have any idea of this info is funny
>>719473908>storiesMaybe if your only metric of quality is how bloated the word count is, alongside telling but never ever showing.
is this the USAID thread everyone is talking about?
>>719473270So how are they planning to make money? Just regular microtransactions? Seems pretty high production value, why not rework it further and repurpose it as a regular $60 game? Either way good move on them, after checking it out I will be playing it when it releases, still not expecting much considering it started as a gacha but I'm willing to give it a try
>>719473361Terrible years where they are still making 4-5 billion a year off everything? Oh no how will they survive.
>>719474027You're absolutely right. And yet Japanese gachas can't even reach this low bar.
>>719461921Why is Japan unable to make a successful gacha game like the Chinese or Koreans? I think it's because Japan already has too many successful properties in a similar but different niche. That means any gacha game has to compete with existing brands. So the obvious solution is to license IP to get a competitive edge. The problem though is that the game company is now beholden to a third-party IP holder which naturally limits their ability to exploit the property. This ultimately leads to a compromised business strategy that inevitably leads to quick EoS.This would seem to be indicate that IPs held by game companies would fare better as they can manage both the IP and development, but it seems that even in this case, most mobile games are contracted out, and successful game companies in the existing space might not have as strong a reason to fully invest in a competing market they don't already have dominance in.
>>719469109>Anime is shaping to do the same and again
>>719474102>high production valuekek you need to get your eyes checked, the game looks slower more jank than warframejust sell gooner skin to keep the server running
>>719473796You might not be aware of how Hoyo works but they let new hires pitch new game ideas and develop them as part of their training process. This has been publicly shared. In other words, a lot of their "unreleased" games that get leaked are not even things.
>>719474027china has the best written stories in this world. you don't know this cause the western media absolute can't say it but chinese web novels are more popular than anything produced in the west. i don't just mean numbers cause chinese readers i mean you go to the listing of the most popular book for women and they're all buying chinese boys love stories involving cultivation and other similar things.this is isn't even best stuff either the absolute best and most interesting stories are still chinese. japanese stuff is too focused on being a teenager and the power of friendship while western stuff is the disgusting stuff you know. whereas china is actually pushing literature forward in terms of everything particularly philosophy and thought.
>>719462027Agree.
>>719461921But Japan's gacha game can have bikini while Korean and Chinese gacha cannot have bikini at all. BA(2023) and Nikke(2025) lacks bikinis. While Uma has bikini spite banning R18. Any Chinese gacha with bikini if China is so based? >>719461921Sorry but Pokepoke, Uma, GgenEternal, GKmas mogs Hoyoslops in ease. And these are not PNG collectors aside from Pokepoke. Why cannot Hoyoslop and BA become "国民的ゲーム" in Japan just like SC1 and LoL in Korea, just like Apex, Valo, splatoon, pokemon and street shitter 6(slightly mentioned on left side of pic rel) ? Do Japs have bad taste on choosing national/generational games(国民的ゲーム)? Korean generational games are SC1,LoL,maplestory, DFO, lost ark. Chinese generational games are DFO, WC3.
>>719474539>popularity = qualityWhat reason would you have to play anything other than minecraft and roblox if this were the case
>>719474539least obvious chinkshill lol
>>719474672But Hoyoslop got mogged by Pokepoke, GKmas, Uma, Ggen eternal and Balatro tho. Genshin is already beaten by Elden ring so hardly, which is the pride of Japanese game. And Switch 2 will destroy Chinese game completely.
>>719474217So Does Korea censor less than Japan now seriously? Any Korean game with bikini then?
>>719474217Blame Ishiba shigeru who banned bikinis from anime. That's why Kimipri lacks swimsuit episode which was tradition of precure. Don't forget Kimipri lacking swimsuit ep due to bikini ban from anime and Bamco's DEI policy. Even Korea censors less than Japan now. No wonder why Tinyping toys sold more than Precure toys in Japan.
>>719474672what you're not getting is the popular stuff is downstream from the source. it's not that the popular stuff is the best it's that it takes different aspects of it and waters it down for the masses. regular people aren't ever going to be touching on the best literature, philosophy, or thought humans can produce.the reason why popular western media is so disgusting and ugly is cause the source is sickening and vile.>>719474593why are you so quiet on blue archives bikini? i noticed you disappeared when this dropped.
>>719475120The fuck is this image? That can't be a real anime screenshot, it's so obviously edited badly.
>>719462027Any day now
>>719475162Nikke has no bikinis this year tho. Only ugly shirts like Rapi and Doro. While Sora no kiseki has nice bikini for Estelle which didn't exist in original. And P5X lacks bikinis while P3R has bikinis for Yuka tan and Fuuka.(Mitsuru is hag and her bikini is hard to obtain so doesn't count)
>>719475339Nigoriri's swimsuits for Jks are censored as genderless swimsuit which is long sleeved shirts+shorts while Old hag teach's swimsuit didn't change a lot. Since bikinis for JK characters are gone in anime. No anime this season has bikinis.
Once the CCP bans gacha within the next 20 years as part of the socialist plan, Korea will win
>>719475870Honestly it would be better if they banned gacha. Imagine if they became a more brutal and repressive regime but still continued to sell games to the world.
>>719475498>While Sora no kiseki has nice bikini for Estelle which didn't exist in original.About that...>>719457438
>>719463660They did but only for people under 18.People even made threads about it here to shit on the country but quickly stopped when they realized that most people were actually favorable to it.
>>719475870the issue with gacha is when the developers try to think of ways to get you addicted and gambling away all your money while also at the same time want to give you as little as possible. if they themselves pour a bunch of energy into and actually have a vision/story/game to play then it's not a bad thing.>>719475498blue archive has sexy seia. this should carry all of korea for the year of 2025 at least. this is more daring than 50 bikini and you know it. the only thing i've seen that's sorta similar is that moneky chick from the granblue and azur lane stuff
>>719476116Can Chinese game have bikinis then? P3R has bikinis while P5X doesn't. You are framing Japan as censor happy nation when Korea and China actually ban bikinis from games. No Chinese donghua and game have bikinis... am I wrong to believe in Netouyos like Mccoy,Pometaro, uehara, tolustin and an average gamer(western tendie, netouyo)? I am Pro Japan netouyo, but Was I wrong to be loyal to Japan for freedom of expression while condemning Korea for censorship like bikini bans?
>>719476318Are bikinis like pic rel mediocre and safehorny slop in gacha now?
>>719474539I have read Water Margin and Reverend Insanity.You are a super retard, never post on an English board again you disgusting SEAmonkey abusing our language for your sinful acts against the written word.You used to read MTL'd Japslop and now you're too used to the tropes so you think MTL'd Chinkslop is good. Try again in the next fucking life.The most popular novels among women are Romantasy. You have never looked at the bestsellers in any nation but your own.
>>719475498>nice bikini for EstelleMight as well have given her a jacket if they're going to cover her lower halfFaclom censorship is getting out of hand
turns out otaku don't want to waste money on a game they think will EoS within 6 months any more after having burned their wallets too many times on it.the Stop Killing Games movement demanding publishers at least let players host their own servers for multiplayer-only rooty tooty shooty gaems is the European response to too many games being shut off and money: stolen.
>>719476489So why do 4chan like rashguard over pareo skirt on swimsuit? Rashguard looks more censored than pareo to me.
>>719473201i love aspects of Nikke, but i quit it in despair like a year ago. I just follow their music accounts on Deezer for new tracks, their music is out of this world good.
>>719476704Nikke lacks bikinis this year due to Korea banning bikinis. Only ugly shirts like Rapi and Doro.
>>719473262Clearly not since they're dying while China and Korea take all the market.
>>719461921>Still calling gachas "games"
>>719476445projecting your own failure on others. i read from chinese pirate sites in chinese and off apps like qidian/feilu. japanese stuff has been complete dog shit for the last 10 years it peaked with overlord, but even at its peak it's not even 1/10 of something like my longevity simulation. japanese stuff always falls into the lowest quality generic moral dilemma pretending they're breaking new ground. as for western trash? none of it is even worth wiping your ass with. boomers+gen-x haven't written a book worth reading and every book they think is good is trash. if it wasn't trash it couldn't have produced retard subhumans like them. western/japanese media is in decline reflecting the nations in decline while chinese media is reflecting a nation that's done of the greatest historical feats in history rising up so quickly.
>>719461921What would a retard from sqnx know about the gacha industry? Those losers failed to make any real dent and are just yapping instead of taking responsibility.>>719463376:)
>>719473796???Hoyo currently has 5 games running and they just announced a new one.
>>719463660Kiss anime vidya goodbye then, except for one Falcom title and one visual novel per year in total globally.
>square enix saysLmfao
>>719476898GOOD MORNING SAAR!
>>719477168>shadowverse 2 in 3rd placeGrim.
>>719477168>we will never have another TGC game on console ever again.
>>719475498I want LESS bikinis and more swimsuits like this. The enwokening has its good parts/
>>719477051I play a couple of their games. I'm not adverse to spending money on a gacha either but it's been over a year since I have been compelled to.
>>719476898But Pokepoke, Uma, GKmas, Balatro mogs Hoyoslop tho. Genshin is already mogged by elden ring.
>>719476973gachas resemble games more than the average jap console game
>>719477270genshin in 2 months makes more than elden ring's entire profit since 2022 lolif anything i don't get why china and korea want to make console games when gachas are just better games overall and make more money
>>719477168>posts JP only rankingWhat did he mean by this
>>719477270Not really tho
>>719461921I don't think they care that much about gachas
>>719477245So is crown's swimsuit safehorny according to 4chan?
>>719477463Why is hoyoslop not considered as 国民的ゲーム/국민게임 in Japan and Korea? Like Apex, Valo, splatoon, pokemon, street shitter 6 in Japan, SC1, LoL, maple, DFO, lost ark in Korea?
>>719477507he thinks it's 2001 and the japanese economy is the 2nd largest in the world and japan is a powerhouse worth mentioning. he's not living in reality where their economy hasn't grown in 30 years and currency lost 50% of its value. their central bank is directly printing money and delivering it to japanese corporations like nintendo so their whole economy doesn't collapse.people don't realize nintendo+sony have to succeed otherwise japan is finished. if nintendo is gone they've got nothing so they're going full pajeet/jew mode where they fake all the numbers to act as if it's going well.
>>719477570But Uma musume is considered as national game(国民的ゲーム) in Japan just like Apex, valo, splatoon, pokemon, street shitter 6 while Starrail isn't considered as generational game in Japan. Does Japan have bad taste on choosing national games?
>>719477721Are Japanese games with metascore higher than genshin bribed? Why cannot Chinks get metascore over 90? Is metascore irrelevant statics now?
>>719477593What you posted is nearly textbook safehorny, except the little skirt gap saves it from the full status. Take that as you will.Let's eliminate sexist bikinis for this even "safer horny" type of swimsuit.
What is this schizo ass thread
>>719477695explain why disney and hollywood are collapsing if they're doing so well? why are all the movie theaters closing if the movies you posted are doing so well? why is it disney is now abandoning capshit if they're the best selling thing in human history and more popular than everything else/it's because hollywood+jap shit is all fake numbers because they get printed money from the central bank to inflate their numbers. if japan or hollywood numbers were real they wouldn't be in panic mood begging for support. back in during the 90/early 00 hollywood didn't talk about how they're collapsing and japan wasn't trying to import infinity jeets/africans. they're doing this cause they're failing and they're pretending their fake as numbers are real and they aren't failing
>>719477721Is Metascore bribed and manipulated? Japanese game can get over 90 while 84 is best for Chinkslops. Why are games with 70s metascore considered as Japan killer if it is Chinese, while Japanese game with 86 metascore is mediocre?
>>719477840>? Is metascore irrelevant statics now?Always was.>>719477859Bikini schizo.I hate this faggot because pro-censorship fags are using him as a strawman to dismiss any argument against censorship.
>>719477859gacha infighting threads tend to be like this for obvious reasons
>>719477078Gachaslop isn't vidya. Chinkshit gachaslop even less so
>>719477915why is japan importing jeets and africans if they're doing so well? why is hollywood collapsing if the numbers are real? why are game journalist all getting fired if shit like metascore is real?
>>719477903>>719478092It was revealed as fake by Yamikuma and african government admitted the mistake. Just like American writer misunderstanding in Tariff shit.
>>719477859>walks into asylum>wonders how come he's surronded by lunatics
>>719478092>>719477903Demagogue by Sanseito which is manipulated by Russian spies. Even African government and BBC admitted mistake, just like Tariff issue where American miswrote as "+15%" when it was actually 15% tariff fix.
>>719461921Death will keep your culture fresh, someone once said.
>>719478241you're so dumb. they announce this to the world because it's real and then they lie to their own people it's fake. this is exactly what every western government has been doing and japan is now doing it. are you going to say that the japanese ambassador to india who says japan needs lots of indians is fake too? what about the indian ceo in japan who says japan has too many japanese. how the government says they love diversity.this news is real and yours is the lie.
>>719477294>this is what gachafags really believe
>>719473201>posts a picture of marian, who is written out for like 1 year at this point>dogshit ass 2.5>"siren is a completed character">newfag writer's self insert is the MC >since new year one boring event after another which are going nowhere>You rike crystal namek? No? Here swamp namek, fuk u ror>introduce a shitton of new characters, while old ones are still unfinished>the bonds are fucked up, for some reason the main character aka you is not involved>main story literally cannot progress whatsoever, its like a shitty episodic saturday morning cartoon>we al go back to square one with Doro>The "generous gacha" in question is that you get showered by gibs only because of internal fuckups and gookcode shitting itself>or when whales threatening to quit due insufficient rewards>RUN EM UP HIT EM WITH ANOTHER BUG>20$ pass for a single skin.>60$ GACHA SKIN>Rapi becomes flanderized so hard its actually unbearable>Whenever you roll, its most likely you'll get absolutely useless shit in most time, unlike uma whereas your worst roll can still be traded in for something good.>the safety net pity molds still can fail too>chink QoL controversy>dailies are still a pain in the ass>so is tribe tower>PvP? rofl>you might not even get a single rock from boss>cannot progress until you wait a shitton of time to accumulate dust and credit.Bro I loved Nikke previous year 2nd anni was amazing, but if you defend it right now you are just a piece of shit liar. The game is hardcarried by character designs. That's literally it.
>>719478472It was meI said thatOnce you kill people they can no longer change and thus remain the same forever, that's why we must kill everyone. No I am not a bloodthirsty psychopath, that has nothing to do with anything.
>>719461921>there are ""people"" on this very board and thread who care about gacha
>>719478472Was Phil Fish right? Why did Japanese game's glory fall off this year when they used to be glorious in 2024? Nintendo switch 2 was nail on coffin to Japanese game due to price, keycard, and forcing intermission shit. In 2025, Japanese games are kusoges only like Yumia, Wilds and MKW. Why did Japanese game which used to be great in 2017-2024 collapse and get mogged by Hoyoverse, Wukong, phantom blade in China, Lies of P, stellar blade, crimson desert, Woochi in Korea and AC shadows, Expedition 33 in France? Japanese game's glory in last year doko? Japanese game doesn't look good in 2025, unlike 2024 when Japanese game rocked.
>>719461921there's is a solution for that. they should join forces with china, japan has IPs, chinks have infinite dev resources. it's a win win.
>>719478641Normalizing certain person saying into general seems funny. And Japan is making visa stricter due to ESTA made by Wada Masamune. I experienced this when I was boarding student in pharmacy university,
>>719464081yeah, FGO and Granblue were just too successful, so japan thought they could get away with png collectors with absolutely atrocious gameplay forever.
>>719479124Anon, all the people who were responsible for making Jap games famous have either died or retired. The few that remain fell for the auteurship meme and huff their own farts with their trash or simply can't output their vision anymore since dev costs are sky high.
>>719477915Nigga what the fuck are you taking about? Who the fuck takes Metascore seriously? Not to mention we're talking about gachashit not actual games.
>>719478641Was mild conservatives(support LDP) like Yamikuma, PULP, Nekoodi, Akomi, Itagaki dentist, EARL's medical blog Yocchi114514 lying? Pic rel is example of moderate conservative tweet.
>>719479386I meant for 2017-2024. Like Persona 5, Nier Automata, Dark souls 3, Sekiro, BoTW, Xenoblade 2, MHW, RE7, FE3H, RE4R, Ryza 1-3, SF6, Mario wonder, pikmin 4, Elden ring, Unicorn overlord, Like a dragon 7, Asstro bot, metaphor.(Mostly picked up by metacritics)
>>719479386Is Elden ring not that great?
Gachas are dying!!! You love to see it
>>719479248>>719479543what your saying doesn't matter. japan begs for western investment and you know the only way blackrock will invest money is if they import infinity jeets. you know boomers want to keep their ponzi scheme going and will import africans/jeets to do it. nobody buys the idea of japan making the visa restricter for africans/jeets only westerners. forget this shit though cause you're coping too muchinstead, you haven't explained how hollywood is collapsing but all their movies are the best selling in human history. you list a bunch of hollywood garbage and saying they're doing well, but hollywood is collapsing and now they're begging the government for money. explain how they're selling the most movies in human history, but they plan to abandon capshit and need support desperately? if these >>719477695 numbers are real why is hollywood collapsing and disney desperately trying to get young men now? the hollywood numbers are fake and so are the japanese.you grasping at straws trying to deflect about jeets/african doesn't change this
>>719479614>Persona 5, >Dark souls 3,>BoTW, >Xenoblade 2, >MHW, >RE7, >FE3H, >RE4R, >Ryza 1-3, >SF6, >Mario wonder, >pikmin 4, >Unicorn overlord, >Like a dragon 7, >Asstro bot, >metaphor>good
>>719479664gacha aren't dying japanese gacha are dying along with everything else japanese.
Post 5 good korean and chinese games
>>719479834>along with everything else japaneseSwitch 2 sure was a flop!
>>719461921Maybe the Japanese run gacha's should stop being so ball twistingly greedy. Korean shitters like Netmarble throw summons and characters at you without a care in the world because they know that's an easy way to get people to stay. Japanese gacha's might give you a singe 10 pull and even then act like that's an excessive reward.
>>719479731Was Yamikuma Blackrock's dog?
>>719479835wukongstellar bladeuhhh.... *skims wikipedia*.... kof 2002... ?jackie ch- FUCK
>>719479887Granblue fucking drowns the players in free summons, it just makes the game even worse.
>>719479834But nintendo will mog Chinese game. And Uma, Pokepoke, balatro, GKmas mogs Hoyoslop.
>>719461921Good. Beings that pay for gacha shouldn't be considered human and should not be able to participate in our society.
>>719479887apan used to make great games like Persona 5, Nier Automata, Dark souls 3, Sekiro, BoTW, Xenoblade 2, MHW, RE7, FE3H, RE4R, Ryza 1-3, SF6, Mario wonder, pikmin 4, Elden ring, Unicorn overlord, Like a dragon 7, Asstro bot, metaphor since 2017, but how can they fall so soon this year and get mogged by Chinese black ships like genshin, starrail, ZZZ, WuWa, Wukong, Lost soul aside, Phantom blade zero, Korean black ship Like Khazan and Lies of P,Crimson desert, and French black ship like expedition 33 and Asscreed shadow? Why did Japanese game which was glorious in 2024 tremble so easily? No Japanese game this year got metascore over 90. Wilds, Yumia ,Mario kart world shows Japanese game's absolute fall this year.While Western game was suffering this last year. But it became opposite this year as western games revived with Kingdom come 2, Doom dark age, expedition 33, Oblivion remaster, man. Why did Japanese game's glory sink in 2025?
>>719480007you're part of the problem
>>719479901>random twitter cope saying it's fakeso you're just never going to explain how hollywood is collapsing but their movies are the best selling in human history? okay. so you're just a bad faith acting troll grasping at straws only.
>>719480062Schizo post
>>719463957holy based nintendo saving japan
>>719461921>raise the prices of everything specially during anniversary or yearly events>surprised pikachu face when none buys not so discounted packages anymore.
These pro china posts are extra hilarious when they produce nothing but genshin and souls clones.
>>719476898And that's a bad thing why? Let chinks and gooks wallow in this slop genre.
>>719480063Thanks. I can't do much, but every bit helps.
>>719479768Are these glorified slops? Wasn't Elden ring great game in Japan which mogged genshin?
>>719463660they tried that, then their stocks plummeted and they switched back overnight, gacha is here to stay and it will only get worse.
>>719480425>i don't know what they make so it doesn't existdo you really think they went from not making anything to making genshin and wukong? nothing between these two? nothing before? this might surprise you but they have 1,5 billion chinese to sell stuff to they don't really need to focus on appealing to you and random jeets.>but i don't know about themso what?>but capitalism or something they need to pander to meexplain how this different from women, tranny, and blacks thinking they need to be pandered to? they need to be the target audience for everything somebody else made?genshin+souls stuff is only really out there cause they're AAA quality and they're especially made with the idea of aiming for the international market.
>>719480651Elden Ring is a good game, but it can't compare to Genshin, which is a live service game.
png collectors and relying too much on legacy IPs to carry them will do that
>>719470354Nice misquote apebrain. Refere back to my first sentence. West media is speedrunning itself faster in the ground.But anime will eventually follow suit if they keep wanting to please the "modern audience". It wont die until a real competitor rises up. Or they have to sloppyfy so much people lose interest.
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>>719461921They're too greedy. Chink and gook gachas are unironically several times more generous. Prices are cheaper, pity pulls are better and have lower thresholds and several games have multiple pity pull tiers whereas japanese gachas only have one with a high threshold, the events give out way more free stuff, and current gacha games let you use tickets (bought purchased and event rewards) for all the banners.
>>719466319Gacha isn't really targeted by payment processors yet. Japs need to up the age ratings on their games if they want slightly less censorship from google and apple appstores. Brown Dust 2, for example, changed the age rating to 17+ and kept all the lewd stuff and added more.
>>719469374look like dogshit
>jap consolecucks thinking that gachas dying in their country won't heavily impact their "real" games
>japan's gachadont need to read the rest
>>719461921It's good to see all of these companies that went from generational defining titles that set trends for years to come to just chasing the next trend in gaming and failing at it, it feels great too, they deserve all of this failure that they've set themselves up for, and what's even better none of them, not one of them have a solution to fix it, even though it's been right in front of them the whole time.
>>719483513Works with China. Maybe Japan should just embrace the death of its gaming industry instead of hopelessly trying.
>>719462027fpbp, death to squenix
>>719483727Chinese devs have a whole country where their laws give them massive advantages, Japanese devs don't.
>>719461921Good. Make real fucking games or gtfo
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>>719467485Yeah Japan figured out they can't compete with China so just decided to tax it instead.
>>719473952I'm not talking about the gacha.I want the entire company to die.
>>719461921This was my first gacha, i loved the sprites and ost
>>719484658It would be relatively easy to make Genshin tier hit with Japan IPs desu, as long as it had the same level of polish. Problem is that Japan seems to really struggle with 3D animation on phones unlike the chinks for some reason. All 3D nip gacha games look like dogshit with the exception of Uma and even then chink games look way better.
>>719465848Nightrein no but hunter was top so far yeah. Number 2 was oblivion remaster and then sports games.
>>719473550>anime died since 2010, the Olympics gave them an excuse to gut the industryThey're gonna get their decade or two of woketarded garbage until their own entertainment industry craters(just like the western industry did) and from the ashes will rise a bunch of japs who will go full Unit 731 on whoever talks about globohomo buzzwords like sexism, racism and inclusivity.
>>719480425Their latest soul clones are not selling and hoyo shit is dying, so these posts are extra hilarious.
>>719461921I hope the rest of the g*cha industry follows suit
>>719486030>Hoyo dyingDo tendies really?
>>719465578>>719465848>>719472129console sales make pennies compared to gachas and microtransactions
>>719484658>just decided to tax it insteadSeems to be a lot of that going on in the world today. Global collapse soon. Only the countries that don't do this will survive.
>>719486030lmao
>>719486527>video games make less money than casinosriveting. i guess all the game devs should just drop what they're doing and make virtual slot machines
>>719485845I hope so I really do.
>>719487358Unironically, yes they should.
>>719487709maybe /v/ is not the right board for you lil bro...
How come granblue and FGO are doing fine as cheap decade + year old games, but Square and Bamco keep on EoSing games yearly?
>>719487895Sunken costs at this point. People also know that Square will EoS a game at any point so nobody wants to spend money.
>>719487895They're original stories where players got invested and want to follow, even ten years later. Also it helps that they came out before Genshin and similar games. Meanwhile Bamco and Square mobile games always feel like cashgrabs that entirely ride on the popularity of their other games so people don't really get that invested.
>>719487895>granblue and FGO are doing fineWho's gonna tell him?
>>719487895GBF is literally dying, they're literally doing their best to kill the game.
>>719487895>not hooking your arm on his before he kicksherbivore male behavior
So what gacha games should I get into now with Japan on its way out? I heard Blue Archive has more Jap devs despite being nexon so is that game not safe?
>>719488768Don't play gacha games, I almost managed to stop playing them, I'm just waiting for the last one to go EoS so I can finally stop them from good.
>>719488449GBF is slowly dying but FGO is doing great, they literally had their best month ever this anniv lol
>>719461921>can't expect much of a future working on domestic mobile gamesWell duh, should be obvious. Who the fuck is stupid enough to play games on a phone?
>>719487895>GBFFuckton of collab and waifu/husbando.A shell of itself nowadays and a part time job more than ever that tries very hard to tell waifufags to fuck off, they had an entire year without a new waifu because they chased that sweet fujo money and failed at it.>FGOWaifu and storytelling.>Square and Bamco They only see gacha as a mean to make a quick buck, they don't actually care about keeping them alive for long term profits.SE in particular is infamous for that as they will kill any gacha that failed to meet expectations within 6 months of release, which force them to only target normalfags who don't usually whale on those kind of game.They're stuck in a vicious circle because of their greed and refuse to admit their faults.
>>719462027Why you hate new things anon? It's because you can't enjoy anything new that came after your father molesting you at 15?
>>719461921Most Japanese gachas are absurdly Jewish. They're still stuck 10 years in the past where their playerbase is a bunch of Japanese salarymen with disposable income.The Japanese are comically conservative and close minded when it comes to business. There's a reason why miHoYo was able to swoop in and eat their lunch with Genshin Impact. And why Comiket is being dominated by a Korean game.
>>719478769You have mental disorders.Stop playing or caring about gacha and never write boring ass green texts again.
>>719465539Nigga you can't compare to chink made shit, literally everything costs less if you don't pay you employees wages and cut as much corners as possible. I'm more interested in seeing in chink car crash amount and survivability
i just want the world economy to collapse
>>719490478>posts a game that was kiketier at launch
About time.
>>719489449 Honestly nailed it. GBF went from “huge passion project” to “please buy the merch we designed in 3 hours.” They're chasing trends instead of refining what made the game good in the first place. Remove the dopamine loop of hitting silly numbers and most people realize it's a glorified Excel spreadsheet with waifu textures slapped on.FGO at least still milks its massive cult following with actual effort (most of the time), plus Nasu keeps drip-feeding lore crumbs and people act like it's high art. Meanwhile Square's like, “Three launches in April, two EoS by June, gacha pipeline's looking healthy boys!” Holy hell they treat these games like they're throwing darts at a wall-blindfolded.
>>719477859Gachas non existent barrier of entry attracts the Japan hating ESL
>>719464907Of course gambling games are doing well you moron. That's not a good thing for consumers, btw. The last thing you should want is for the Japanese market to be nothing but glorified slot machines
>>719482962It will force all the garbage "developers" who can only make predatory skinner boxes to fuck off doing pachinko or some shit. Fewer games that are actually video games is objectively better
I saw this coming as soon as the Chinese moved in to the gacha scene. Japanese companies can't compete with developers propped up by the Chinese government, the Japanese don't have a comparable source of R&D money nor can they shamelessly steal from others the way the Chinese do. Good, I say. Abandon the gacha market to the Chinese and learn to make real games again.
>>719497905>>719498108Not with the anti-pachinko laws they won'tAnd without gacha and pachinko money, they can't fund their console industry anymore
>>719473201>Using generous to describe any gachalol. You retarded addicts are actually praising the fact you're given enough gibs to maybe guarantee the base limited character every 2 or so months. Really shows how conditioned gamers have been to be fucked over by corporations.
>>719498159Then let the entire thing collapse so that a new industry can spring forth from its corpse. It's preferable to it slowly becoming nothing but gachashit where 90% of them EoS within a year, because only so many gaas forever games can survive in such a market.
I fucking love these insane ass threads with the retarded SEAnig chinkshills and gookshills on one end and the schizophrenic ESL jap spammer on the other endEither way, gacha dying is a fucking good thing. I can't understand why the fuck so many of you are doing advertising for these shitty ass mobile games for ZERO monetary compensation
People bringing up japans decline are just flat out wrong, the market is just oversaturated, way too much competition, and people just don't want to switch.
>>719499758It's insane that these people can't separate monetization mechanics from actual content/gameplayI play games with gacha in them and I hope the industry burns
>>719499758The funny thing is that gacha isnt dying, it's just the japanese replaced by chinese/korean gacha.
>>719500636you're looking at SE which has been releasing bomb after bomb for decadesJapan as a society has never marketed their products to the outside world to any sort of considerable degree. That's why big hits like Gakumas are still JP only and why their idol scene is oversaturated with different acts that all just pander to japan alone and don't go international like KR idols.Not to mention how KR and CN media is still in the piggybacking off of anime aesthetics phase
>>719500636Japan has many of the top gacha's they arent dying at all. People are just not playing new ones because why would you, so much less content that doesnt offer anything new. Its the same problem with live services games.
>>719500969japan in general is getting replaced and because they stopped being unique by being dumb as fuck about following american's opinions, Chinese do NOT give a fuck and koreans are insane so they retain their quirkyness
>>719500919>That's why big hits like Gakumas are still JP only and why their idol scene is oversaturated with different acts that all just pander to japan alone and don't go international like KR idols.Anon, the gakumas are all underage while the korean idols are all hags.It could have worked 10-15 years ago but today it would be just asking to get cancelled.
>>719501469that's literally my point though, Japan is just a super inward looking country. They love underaged girls so they make underaged girls, marketability to the outside world be damned.Even fucking anime was like this, they didn't spend any time or effort actually marketing anime to the outside world, they just made it for themselves and hyper otaku from the west and elsewhere just fixated on it all on their own.Hell, this pattern has been the case since when Japan was first forcibly opened. Japonisme and the like, with Monet and other painters being the equivalent of huge fucking weeaboos back then
>>719501808>they didn't spend any time or effort actually marketing anime to the outside worldAnd now they do and the entire industry is worse as a result.
>>719502079China does and it works for them.
>>719502079Idk kev, Japanese games are still the majority of the games I play these days and deem to be worthwhilePeople keep shilling for China and Korea these days but I have yet to see them actually put out a good game. Shills unironically want me to believe fucking mobile games with ass gameplay and ass presentation and narratives, that fleece you to boot, are worth my time in any capacity. Then people try and tell me shovelware like Stellar Blade or Wukong are any better than the western slop I already shy away from, or that they aren't just the same as action slop I fucking hated in the PS3 era just with shiny UE5 paint
>>719502280Good for them but unlike Japan, it's not like they had an industry to bastardize in the first place.
>>719461921Of course it is. Everyone can make them. Chinese companies can just comission some artists form Indonesia to create some generic hornybait designs and animate them via live2d, then create some generic game around the characters, add a few resource systems and expensive upgrade based equipment systems and BAM, new gacha.It's a miracle this lasted as long as it did.
gacha shills are pathetic, but somehow the sort of worm that shills for a country they don't even live in as an extension of their (unpaid) gacha shilling are even more embarrassing.
>>719502346>Japanese games are still the majority of the games I play these days and deem to be worthwhileI was speciffically talking about anime.Shit like gwitch is pure westerner pandering and basically killed gundam for me.As for gaming, crapcom, arcsys and SE also went all-in in pandering to the west and I heavily hate their current direction.crapcom has a shot of winning me back with Pragmata but I'll wait until the game actually release before making a call.
>>719499758>retarded SEAmonkey spends his entire paycheck on anime girl banner>now he has to convince himself the game is good because he spent so much money on it already>forced to play even after getting bored out of pure sunkcost>shills it constantly in hopes the game never dies because he just keeps spending money like a retarded monkeyIt's that easy
>>719502346>Japanese games are still the majority of the games I play these days and deem to be worthwhileBecause you're still a consolecuck and those games nowadays barely sustain themselves without gacha, pachinko or live service money and Japan has none of those. Their gaming industry is dying hard.
>>719461921japs are always living in the future and stuck in the past at the same timethey haven't innovate at all in gachas, their most famoust work is a 10+ years old vn carried by the writters
>>719501032>>719500969japan loves getting pozzed by america this is why we move to china and korea they D.G.A.F.
>>719502846>>719502573These. Japan is woke and dying, and we are happy at their grave. Hope weebs kill themselfs soon now that we quit Japan and convert to china and korea as good.
>>719502573There are still great shows every season is the thingChina and Korea are lightyears away from making shit like Takopii or CITY or Milky Subway Galaxy Limited Express and those are just from this season.KR webtoons are hampered by the fact that every single one is edgy shit that is even more braindead than your average shounen and Chinese donghua are written like ass with Arknights tier purple prose, and try to mask their vapidity by emulating westslop like Arcane or Invincible in DESU:X's case, or just shoving sakuga everywhere while forgoing any actual competent direction like LotM's case: where each ep is like multiple gacha cutscenes and music videos strung together back to back
>>719503030ok weebjapan is still woke and love woke
>>719503030>DESU:XlelI meant 2BH:X of course
oh boy I cant wait for weebs to schizo post about how this is a bad thing and japan has fallen
>>719503029It's not woke, it's profit. The West is doing fine compared to Japan without gacha because they have microtransactions
>>719503092I hope for your own sake you actually get fairly compensated with your 50 cents instead of doing it for free as gacha chattel like this anon >>719502701 explained
>>719503205to be honest there actually is just a sizeable cohort of SEAbrowns, poos, and losers in the west that have zero investment in their societies and shill BRICS and all that faggotry hard because they got legit psyopped by american or russian or chinese propagandanone of them play vidya, they just bitch about politics online
>>719503030>There are still great shows every season is the thingSure, but shit like gwitch will ultimately have an influence in the future.And it doesn't help that Japan is suffering from various external factor that doesn't even try to hide their hatred for the country like (((payment processors))).
Simple answer is that Japan as a society is backwards af, their logistics is a nightmare, their work culture is literally faking you're working cause you can't go out before your boss, middle management is a bunch of nepotism fucks that can't do anything, CEO is some 70+ fossil that still uses fax machines and their society is extremely collective focused so they don't bitch about anything and just take it in their ass like the good little cucks they are
>>719503934Look I think G-Witch sucked ass too but it's not like yuritroons havent been a mainstay of Japan for the longest ass timeHell, shit like Ave Mujica and Mygo are fucking ginormous in China and those shows are even gayerIf anything, it just goes to show that Japanese people are still super self indulgent. You might be under the impression that shit like GW is pandering to western woke sensibilities, but from my point of view it's just Gundam's take on the usual seasonal yuribait show that you don't spend any time making posts about online.Hell, GQX came out afterwards and plotfags in the west fucking hate it while it trended in Japan even higher than GW because it pandered to otaku and UC geezers so hard and was a fun ride for newfags
>>719504254>You might be under the impression that shit like GW is pandering to western woke sensibilitiesYes, it absolutely was and that's coming from someone who doesn't mind yuri.>but from my point of view it's just Gundam's take on the usual seasonal yuribait show that you don't spend any time making posts about online.Nah, if it was only yuri but gundam, it wouldn't have so many elements that you usually find in wokeshit.lycoreco is another example of a show pandering to the west.>Hell, GQX came out afterwards and plotfags in the west fucking hate it while it trended in Japan even higher than GW because it pandered to otaku and UC geezers so hard and was a fun ride for newfagsI dropped gundam after gwitch but you just convinced me to at least try GQX because I happen to be a UC geezer
>>719461921Fuck cygays and fuck granhomo analworms fantasy Homoflops and fujos killed another IP
>>719504961GQX is fun, but don't expect it to be as tight in its narrative as your usual mainline UC showIt's like FLCL meets UC man in the high castle with tons of fanservice
>>719462308Take the hint and let go. You shouldn't be playing FF in your 40s anyway.
>>719503030>lightyears away from making shit like Takopii or CITY or Milky Subway Galaxy Limited ExpressKR and CN will literally never make shows like those ever, they're all too suffused with the Japanese aesthetic and Japanese sensibilities.If anything China's problem in particular is their lack of a coherent modern aesthetic. It's exceedingly obvious what Korea's aesthetic is: consumerist vapidity and societal angst+revenge. That's why every 3D character of theirs looks like the same plastic bimbo dolls and why every webcomic of theirs reads like a manifesto of some societal failure using his work as an outlet for the revenge he wants to enact on the people higher up than him on the social ladder. Or why gookcel gacha games write all their women like they aren't even humans. Even their movies and shows are obsessed with all that hierarchy shit.China on the other hand doesn't even have a coherent aesthetic besides glib facsimiles of what is popular in Japan or in the US, or the usual falling back to he same tired epic novels and conveyor belt wuxia shit. Hong Kong cinema used to have an extemely developed aesthetic, and even Taiwan with stuff like Edward Yang's shit or Ang Lee's shit.Before they can ever make anything worthwhile they need to actually create an aesthetic of their own. Anime as a style, which they use as a crutch, is legit holding them back. there's a mismatch between chinese sensibilities and the aesthetic language built into anime as a stylethe anime style just takes way too much from the japanese cultural milieu and their specific idiosyncracies: you can't divorce one from the other. Like how animating simpsons or bojack in anime style wouldnt work beyond one-off gag eps.tldr is basically that chinese people ought to develop their own unique animated style, cause I can't help but think of all donghua/gacha as bootleg anime. If HK and taiwan managed to develop their own styles in film I'm sure they can also manage
>>719506481said bojack but meant rick n morty, but maybe bojack also had a gag anime ep
Japan's pretty fucked on all fronts, tons of anti immigration protests popping up and asking Ishiba to resign, that's on top of so many infiltrated industry censoring shit american sensibilities. Its looking grim for the japs if they don't fire up that samurai spirit
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>>719461921i have been telling people this for almost a full year but gooky chinks keep being in denial about itpeople have GAASlop fatigue and simply moved back to real vidya
>>719464907>>Meanwhile Chinese and Korean gachas are doing well.holy shit no, BA is cratering so hard nexon is doing picrel and hoyo is already cutting costs by killing the PS4 version of genshit at the cost of massive fan goodwill and trust that no server would ever go offline because hoyo is making gorillions
>>719474593>>719475498>>719476795Holy fucking cope bikinischizo. >b-but its a shirt it does not couThe fucking bikini is right there and its litterally the default animation.Not even having to speak for Elegg.But you know that already disingenuous retard.
>>719503030Takopii is sewer sludge
>>719510094counterpoint: I get hard when little girls get beat up
>>719487895FGO was built on top of nearly two decades of worldbuilding when it launched, and became the company's primary work, so you now have no choice but to engage with it if you want more Type-Moon content.
>>719498108They gave up on real games for a reason. Vast majority of the talent retired, and they failed at successfully attracting or training new blood. It's going to shrink down to Nintendo, Capcom, and From while everyone else is making shovelware.
>>719511940Capcom is already making shovelware.Pragmata might be their only good game in a long time.
>>719487895FGO is nasu's pet project he's tsundere over after being given a blank script and told to do whatever the fuck he wanted as long as he bought in money, more than that type moon is still making real games like that samurai one released relatively recently.Cygames are jews but also are making real games, it wouldn't surprise me to learn some kind of uma game is in the works (probably a stardew valley or rhythm game or something).The thing is both of them work off AA budgets, even uma which is the best looking gacha cygames has done so far feels like they aren't wasting gorillions on graphics.Meanwhile square and bamco are falling for the hoyo trap and are making even their 2D gacha high budget while expecting to get exponential returns on investment and that's just not how it fucking works, especially with how degraded the FF brand has gotten over the last decade.
>>719461921>the most famous JRPG ever made according to /v/>its gacha is a fucking disaster like the demakes>Eosing soon
>>719506481Funny saying this with this much confidence when something korean became the biggest and most popular movie of the year.
>>719513923literally what does that have to do with anything that I said at alldoesn't it support it even?
>>719513923reminder gooks love to bot shitthere's a reason they are saying viewers and not revenue
>>719462027I have reached this point in my square enix fan life-cycle. They truly deserve death.
>>719461921>Says dev of a 10 year old Gacha gameEvery gacha is a sinking ship. Always was. They just loot the ship of all of the passengers valuables before they sink it themselves.
>>719515000every square fan, old or new, eventually reaches that point
>>719484536is it cygames? they do have batch skill leveling in all their gachas
Imagine how mentally unwell you'd have to be to write >>719490365 in defense of a giant videogame company being criticized
Hopped out when they decided to make Fina the MC of part 3, did Rain and Lasswell ever fuck?
Why is Japanese gacha now being outshone by other Asian gacha?
>>719518423>gooks and chinks keep trying to cope claiming this for years>pokemon TCG and uma come around and rape the entirety of the multi billion gacha industry with peanut budgets without even tryinglol
>>719518423Because a lot of Japanese gachashit is just low-quality anime IP games.
>>719518423Japan and Westoids don't treat them like real games despite them making more money than console slop.China and Korea are the opposite.
>>719462027Pretty much same. The FF7 Remake was the last straw for me. They literally couldn't even make what people wanted for years, so to me they are just purposely fucking up.
>>719519037The saddest thing is that Nomura has said in interviews that he wanted them to keep the story the same but got overruled.The one guy who actually wanted to keep the story faithful, and he gets blamed for all the time ghost bullshit that wasn't his fault.
>>719510201I kneel and repeal my post I lost
>>719486030why are you lying to yourself buddy
>>719519260in retrospect nomura was really a gigachad and the only one with a brain in the entirety of SEi cant even get myself to mock le belts and le zippers anymore, the man simply deserves respect for all hes done and the bullshit hes put up with
>>719519382you're being stupid, kingdom hearts is mostly a joke especially past 1 when they moved further away from disney(the good parts)
>>719476795This outfit came out 2 months ago in Black Desert. There is no bikini ban at all.
>>719519527Nomura doesn't write Kingdom Hearts either.Everyone just loves to blame Nomura for shit he's not responsible for.
>>719464384Whats wrong with falcom?
>>719461921What's been going on with Brave Exvius anyway? I jumped ship when Brave Frontier died but hopped off like five years ago. I heard the main chatacter died and the villain organization was one guy time travelling or something but again that was years ago. Where are they now?
It's just strange how Japan just can't seem to make good video games anymore while China mogs them. Hopefully the Chinese keep getting better at least, SK too.
>>719518423is that why there's monthly seething about pokemon in gacha threads?
>>719461921>Asset Flipper sayscopy pasting free assets needs professional skills, preesu undar stando.
>>719520227Their economy is being fucked every which way. Plus a raising worker shortage thanks to their low birth rates meaning they have no workers in all fields to the point where their infrastructure like roads, buildings, bridges, power lines, etc. need constant repairing and they don't have the workers to do fill those jobs. Lots of places are starting to look like China with broken shit falling everywhere. This also forced them to import foreign workers like Indians and pretty soon Africans. One of the main reasons why they're trying to appeal to the west so much is because their own media just isn't profitable to them anymore, they pretty much have no choice.
>>719473604Chink gacha shills are basically Sea Niggers or Pajeets.
>>719521343None of this has anything to do with video games. Also Indians and Africans will only make the country worse.
>>719462027Very based.
>>719463660They tried that once and indeed like other anon said their stock went down. Tencent for example and quickly the government arrested the official that was trying to push those new laws.
>>719461921Japanese gacha industry is dying, and any competent dev decided to work with gooks or chinks. Is the japanese companies the ones falling behind, that's what the original article is about.
>>719461921Gacha finally biting Japan's ass, good.Now go back to make real games.
>>719521440>None of this has anything to do with video gamesI guess I wasn't being specific enough when I said "all fields". That include video games, anime, and other media. Those Japanese animation studios are always posting "looking for hire" and "low on staff" on their official sites and X pages. They literally have no workers to do the stuff they used to. The west and immigrants is all they have left.>Also Indians and Africans will only make the country worse.That's not stopping them from mass importing them.
>>719522362Their studios have far more people than they used to and they outsource more too. They can also publish games cheaper than developing them in-house, people would even pay them to use their IPs.Instead they are making trash.
>japanese gachas are done for this time for sure
All of chinese global marketshare in videogames will plummet when they invade taiwan in 2027 and every single country not in brics will tariff the everliving shit out of them including banning chinese products in general
>>719491503In gaming Chinks are paid handsomely. They have much better working conditions and salaries than their Jap counterparts.>Source?I can't cite a source about half a dozen articles I have read over the years. Try asking an AI.
>>719461921>switching to consoleNone of those gachaslop devs have a future in console. Maybe some of the programmers and some of the jpegfag artists as ui designers.
